lost-ark-help

[dim pulsar]

its not impossible, its just LOW odds u get it

[lavish mortar]

Just wait for AI cutting ez

[lucid axle]

true

[dim pulsar]

u can cut 50 stones or 5000 to get 3/2

[lucid axle]

have many stones just sitting around

though not all class related to the ones i play

[lavish mortar]

I refuse to cut any rocks on alts till main has 9/7

Cuz id be tilted if an alt i dont care about (all of them) got a 9/7

[lucid axle]

i love all my alts equally

but yeah main first

[lavish mortar]

Same.

[vast oriole]

darek cut another 9/7 this week

on his aero

he has 3 rn, nothing on main

[lavish mortar]

@hybrid willow fack u

[vast oriole]

[molten grove]

doesnt even need ai

[vast oriole]

his first one was ages ago

when vykas was endgame...

[bold geyser]

10 + 6 vs 9 + 7

[vast oriole]

then he got one on wildsoul couple of weeks ago

then aero this week XD

[bold geyser]

except my zerker

capstone bt skill feels real bad to use

[lavish mortar]

Really? I liked bt
Pref mayhem but it sucks

[bold geyser]

i liked t3 bt a lot

when they basically had the same skill

[lavish mortar]

Play slayer then ez

[vast oriole]

btw

[lucid axle]

mathematically one is better odds though i think

[bold geyser]

bt rn hella busted though my 1585 zerker does like 20MM dps on sona

[lucid axle]

like before it was 7/7 vs 9/5

[bold geyser]

only saying that the pips are the same 🙂

[lavish mortar]

Probably 9/7 slightly easier but it doesn't matter

You get lucky or not

[lucid axle]

true just curious though

still need to kinda cut 7/7s on all my alts but maybe i hold off on it lol

[lavish mortar]

Im not sure i have any non event 7/7s on my account..

All I cut are 9/6

[dim pulsar]

9/6 is better than 7/7

[lavish mortar]

Im aware
But its funny

[dim pulsar]

i have 1 9/6, 3 7/7 and 2x SAD 7/6

sometimes its just cancer

[cyan kiln]

Can’t wait for ai stone patch

[lucid axle]

can't cut stone on alts cause all t4

[lavish mortar]

Do we have a date for it yet
Or just copium

[vast oriole]

feb patch no?

they annoucned it

in the roadmap

[lucid axle]

Feb pretty sure

Yeah

[lavish mortar]

Feb 4?

[vast oriole]

4, 11 or 18

i still think the patch will be on the anniversary date

it makes the most sense for me

[lucid axle]

I expecting the 25th

but yeah probably anni

[lavish mortar]

Feb 4 and blame arna if wrong
Noted

[vast oriole]

i mean events finish that date

[livid fossil]

lol

[vast oriole]

but yeah

i think more on the 11th

just because anniversary

[vast oriole]

why

january is on the 14th

[lucid axle]

always expect the worst and I'll never be disappointed

[lavish mortar]

Always expect the best and blame others if it doesn't happen

[naive comet]

Question - what is a bus? lol

[rose wren]

paid carry

[lavish mortar]

Group of people carrying others who are afk/dead

And get paid for it (via gold)

[naive comet]

ahhhhh

gotcha

[livid fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-school-school-bus-flying-school-bus-gif-12263756

[lucid axle]

[plain sorrel]

have KR had the Guardian Raid nerf / redesign yet ?

[lucid axle]

already has

been since loaon no?

or did they nerf it after the rework

[mighty stirrup]

theyll get it tmr/today

[bold geyser]

do they already have the witch?

[lucid axle]

not yet

think it’s there next update

[bold geyser]

i assume it's just a remake of the witch's hut fight

[vast oriole]

yes

[lavish mortar]

As of today, they will be getting the witch raid yes

[vast oriole]

since tonight

people are inside the raid

[bold geyser]

coooool

[lucid axle]

oh yeah forgot time zone diff

[bold geyser]

(...and it's just a remake of the witch's hut fight right?)

[lucid axle]

idk what you mean by witch hut

[bold geyser]

it's.....moko island?

[vast oriole]

no its not

[bold geyser]

real shame

[plain sorrel]

witch wear swimsuit ?

[vast oriole]

its not summer first of all

and i didnt see any new skin

[plain sorrel]

winter can also have coomer skin

[molten grove]

its summer here and im melting

[lucid axle]

swimsuit though

[lucid axle]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

never done it

last one i did was the bee racing one

[rose wren]

such ass battle

[lavish mortar]

Its older than bee race wdym

[lucid axle]

well like i don’t do them often

last one i did was that

can’t remember which ones i tried after

[viral ridge]

Do I +19 my akkan gear to 1620? Or is there a gear inbetween?

[coarse apex]

Hi, does anyone know where can I find the optimal build for Arcanist in paradise crucible?

[rose jewel]

?progression

[buoyant dock]

Jump to Gear Progression Steps: #lost-ark-help message

[balmy plank]

You go to +19/1620. Youll move to tier 4 after that. Its in the progression guide Signum just linked

[lavish grove]

Arcanist Guide

Click here to view the full guide

Jan 7, 2026, 2:26 AM

[rose jewel]

or you can ask in the arcana channel if you grab the class role

id:customize

[balmy plank]

Try the class guide on Nexus. If nothing is there get the arcana class role from id:customize to access the class chat #arcana and try asking there maybe

[coarse apex]

Thanks!

[plain adder]

hi guys i just came back after a year +. should i buy thsi echnida solo raid box with extra reward?

[rose jewel]

unless you need the extra mats, no

ah, solo, even less so

hard would give eyes used for adv honing 11-20 but solo only gives scales

so no

eyes can be used for 1-10 as well, 2:1

[prime anvil]

?AdvHoning

[buoyant dock]

Optimal Advanced Honing Order
+12 -> 1-10 -> +14 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-40 -> Continue to normal hone.
Calculated with no additional materials (Books & Solars) and full on grace for advanced honing (Scrolls & Solars used on full grace only). Personal costs may vary when using an abundance of these items should you have them. You can estimate your costs using Maxrolls Honing Calculator https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/upgrade-calculator

[bold geyser]

pretty sure the advice is safely "never buy the box unless you're desperate for shards" yeah?

for like everything

[paper walrus]

if you're able to get more than enough tokens no reason not to

shards is the lower priority if you do your 3 chaos a week tho

[bold geyser]

not on to update the sheet

[paper walrus]

oh for raids

[bold geyser]

but if it hasn't appreciably changed buying it w/o needing shards is way underwater

[paper walrus]

yeah dont buy unless you're rushing, but i do buy for ark grid cores

i must gamba

[bold geyser]

thats true i could see it for that

or like elixirs back in the day, i assume it worked like that

[paper walrus]

something like that

[bold geyser]

not for honing 😄

[paper walrus]

you'd only buy for rushing the system, not for honing yeah

[bold geyser]

i guess if you'd rather give smilegate your money than some other player

[viral ridge]

is it better to cut my own accessories or just buy these from the shop?

[balmy plank]

If you're looking for a starter set & have no hand-me-downs from other characters then buying from the golf shop is a good option. Partly because you save ~45k on pheons alone

Cutting your own is such low RNG. But I would recommend cutting accessories from hell for potentially better accessories

[faint cedar]

?reset

[buoyant dock]

reset local time: <t:1762250400:t>
reset local time: <t:1762250400:t>
Weekly reset is on Wednesday server time.

[neat estuary]

How much gold do adventure islands give? When I quit it was around 1k. And is the highest reward bracket 1720 or 1730?

[balmy plank]

I think the highest bracket is ~5k these days

[neat estuary]

What card sets are the KR players using for Sercia? I'm so behind on the elemental sets after a long break.

Finished LWC30 right before I quit, now you get it for free, should've saved all my selectors lol

[balmy plank]

LOS as far as im aware

I wouldnt worry too much about the selectors you used in the past. A one point being spent money and grinded hard to reach 1375 just to do argos and these days we get a 1640 powerpass for free

[split kayak]

do people park at 1640

or 1660?

[balmy plank]

People park at an ilvl relevant to their means as always. Whether that be 1640, 1660, 1680, 1700 etc

[split kayak]

hmmmm

[balmy plank]

Honing alts costs gold. Everyone has their own disposable gold to use on alts. Its just a matter of where youre at and what you can afford when it comes to parking alts

[bold geyser]

the new selectors have a lot of new cards on them, the old ones wouldn't have had access to them you didn't miss out on potential new stuff 🙂

[bold geyser]

i suspect 1660 is appealing because you can do solo aegir, if you ah20 in t3 you're already there, otherwise it should be fairly cheap, but not free, so you have to decide if its worth it

[paper walrus]

1710 is appealing beacuse i dont have to do brel

you hone an alt because you want to play the alt, not because it will igve more gold

if you want more gold, just dont hone at all

[bold geyser]

only mean for parking, for people who want to play the alt but want to feel less guilty about it 😄

[split kayak]

doing thaemine with the 3 gates just

[astral root]

Imo 1680 is pretty reasonable for what you get

It also gives you access to ancient accs and bracelets (plus karma taps) from paradise

[molten grove]

1680

[astral root]

It also lets you stash honing books

And you are not losing out on any HM raids besides aegir should you chose to full solo

The problem with 1640 is that it only really works if youre a mokoko or have someone take pity on you for behe

[rain oasis]

dragon knight coming on feb 4?

[split kayak]

yeah cant exactly raise them all to 1680, my main just 1697
but being at 1640 having to thaemine is

[bold geyser]

haven't heard, i assume whenever the big patch is

[ashen shuttle]

not mt today?

[astral root]

I think that since we are getting an express February anyways, you might just wanna cut thae solos out entirely

Since it doesn't give t4 mats anyways

Stock up AH scrolls and books

[bold geyser]

40 min

[astral root]

Behes theoughout the week > Echinda HM on Tuesdays

I think alts get discounted a lot but imo they provide a lot more than just base raid gold value (at least main 6)

Paradise gold > tradeable acc gamba

Card alts if your playtime is high

Gamba for hell keys is always nice

Gamba for relics books, cards...

If you're willing to just be a hermit, you essentially just turn a 1680 into a fake Ironman style character that kind of just sustains itself

[unique fox]

Is there any negatives to doing this or something?

[lucid axle]

uhhh

no

its like a soft reset for your gear

but ur ilvl stays the same

[unique fox]

cool

[astral root]

You kind of already lost 4k for no reason

[unique fox]

wym

[astral root]

Ancient weapon for t4 only lets you hone past +20*

It doesn't actually give you any evo points

[lucid axle]

if its aegir gear it gives evo points

[astral root]

He... made weapon

Which does not give points

[lucid axle]

oh well if u finished gear then you should still do it

[unique fox]

each piece gave me +4 more evol points

[bold geyser]

weapon doesn't

only raises the honing cap from +20 to +25

still useful, for that reason

[paper walrus]

armor is more useful, but youll do the whole set eventually

[astral root]

I feel like the only scenario making weapon earlier makes sense is if you were intentionally trying to rng a high qual

[bold geyser]

every other weapon upgrade added ilvl

aegir is an anomoly

[lucid axle]

not everyone one has i think

[astral root]

Also the game does a terrible job of explaining aegir weapons actual use

[lucid axle]

game doesnt explain shit

[astral root]

I feel like this exact scenario happens at least twice every week

[bold geyser]

again, its not a big deal and would have been done anyway, and if you already got the armor and were not 4k gold short of doing something today you didn't lose out on anything at all

[astral root]

And even if you shorted armor you can still tap in the meantime and fix it next week

[lucid axle]

youll need it anyways so realistically your only losing out on a bit of dmg

[astral root]

Mokokos aren't getting gatekept anyways rn

[lucid axle]

if youre still getting aegir pieces you are most likely doing solo anyways

anyone have the link to the KR update?

[honest ledge]

do we know if the nightmare mode KR has drops anymore mats than hard mode?

[lucid axle]

should be just like TFM i think

[honest ledge]

ngl as someone who hasnt done tfm idk if that means yes or no

[astral root]

Supposedly there's just more ark cores and two relic books in auction?

[rose jewel]

i would ask a kr streamer

coz the patch is extremely new and not a lot of people are awake atm, people who may know

its degen time already

[lucid axle]

raid just came out not much information other than from streams atm probably

[rose jewel]

idk if memo or benji or whoever else is on

[astral root]

Also theoretically we could be getting our own Frontier title for nightmare?

(I think Frontier is non korean?)

[rose jewel]

i would theorically tell you to wait for the patch notes

[lucid axle]

a lot of things we dont know we just have to wait and see

new type of raid so maybe they treat it differently idk

[astral root]

Yeah just like the kaz tfm announcement id imagine

[unique fox]

What Una daily was important?

The N Kurzan ones?

yeah one of them gives enlightenment pot

[lucid axle]

enlightenment potions and skill potions mainly

if you care about collectibles there's a few others

if you check your codex you can see where to get them

or search them in the dailies for rewards

[tender flicker]

enlightenment potion, skill potion, bloodclaw fragment (turns into enlightenment)

[unique fox]

which Una turns into bloodclaw fragment?

The other N Kurzan one?

[tender flicker]

Tbh don’t remember where it was

[plain geyser]

search for it on the reputation status

just put "Bloodclaw" on the search bar

[unique fox]

❤️

[bold geyser]

That's the end of season reward

[autumn oar]

which is the best life skill for abidos?

[bold geyser]

Logging generally, just because you can do it hella fast in pairs

Sorry 😔

[autumn oar]

sometimes i like to do alone things, was thinking exacavating

or flowers

[bold geyser]

Haven't checked in a long time sorry

Hopefully somebody more up to date can chime in

[sinful jetty]

?paradise

[buoyant dock]

Min/Max Guide for Early Elysian & Crucible _

[sinful jetty]

Is there a priority list for hell paradise rewards ?

[wicked jungle]

Yes and no. Mostly on what you need at any given moment.

[tired cargo]

fusion is always the pick

especially if the floor level is high

[coral perch]

This is the last elysian level we will get right?

[strange viper]

right

[minor briar]

honing one value used to be a lot better but both breath prices dropped 100 for watever reason

also, if u alr have a lot of fusion, breaths r better since they “rarer”

and rly good for AH

[ashen shuttle]

why mt done so fast

[minor briar]

just weekly maint, nothing major

[fiery gate]

between att power % and weapon power % on earring which one is better 👀

also are the 3 line accs for 30k exchange always guaranteed to have decent lines or is it just random lvl 3 refinement?

[minor briar]

about the same

[minor briar]

pins

[warm marten]

hi guys, struggling on 1580 with my souleater on paradise, whick first orb should i choose?

[shy chasm]

Any they are all kinda mid

[minor briar]

orb is used outside of paradise btw, but the gentle projection one

[warm marten]

Thanks a lot

[cedar scroll]

what you do once you've reached 1660 here? I'm using full +14 gear from southern pass

[outer mason]

advanced honing

[cedar scroll]

just straight up advance honing the same gear I've been using? not changing anything?

[outer mason]

yeah
your goal is to have +14 (which you already have)
and lv 20 advanced honing
to reach 1680

you can also start doing Aegir to get mats to craft ancient gear
but everything transfer, so doesn't matter too much when you do it

[cedar scroll]

armor stats are always the same? only accessories are different?

[placid gyro]

is there any non steam client for lost ark? as i cant get it through steam due to region restrictions

[minor briar]

yes, equal hone

[outer mason]

western version = steam
need to go KR otherwise

[placid gyro]

i see, so does the korean client have english language if you know

[minor briar]

apparently u can make an acc on steam with vpn and it works

[minor briar]

thats insta ban over there

[placid gyro]

oh dang

[zenith plank]

Anything new weekly maintenance

[marsh grove]

yeah just turn on a VPN to make your steam account

and you'll be able to add lost ark

some regions are like actually blocked tho

like turkey or something

[minor briar]

#lost-ark-help message read from here

another eu guy so i assume similar situation

[placid gyro]

well i'm in india and just chose eu during discord onboarding

and thank you

[marsh grove]

I play from SEA on NA servers with no issues

[cedar scroll]

do I just level every armor equally or what

[minor briar]

for AH, do 1 piece full at a time

cheaper that way

assuming u dont just have all the mats alr

[placid gyro]

@minor briar @marsh grove it worked thank you!

[cedar scroll]

do I just temper immediately after reaching 10?

[minor briar]

finish 1-10 on all first

then if u have the mats to do 11-20 temper

[high stone]

Hey Guys I pulled a Grudge from paradise my grudge node is 1 so are all my other engravjngs, should I use my 4 selectors I have only 4, for Grudge node 2 or use 2 on Cursed doll to get node 1, or wait for adre and use on adre node2?

[errant cloud]

anyone know why NAW is not available after dc-ing mid raid

[cedar scroll]

k thanks

[marsh grove]

NAW hasn't been in its own tab for like 2 months now?

all the NA are on the same tab

[errant cloud]

when i click it says server is closed

[marsh grove]

oh

weird

NAW is definitely up right now

[errant cloud]

yea i was midraid with friends and they're alright
edit: its okay now after 20mins and rebooting

[coral ice]

hey, just came back to the game and after making a new character with the pass i got a few quests and one of them says to try honing, however i dont have the needed ressources to do so and i'm not really sure how to obtain them, maybe i missed a reward somewhere i do not know, help would be appreciated 🙂

[marsh grove]

use the express event on your character

and do the missions

it will give you materials

there is 1 powerpass and 1 express event available now

so choose wisely

[coral ice]

alright thanks

[neat estuary]

does the ilvl 635 unknown island event gold reward scale with ilvl? not an adventure island

[cedar scroll]

is it necessary to make the starting gear quality 100? we have 70 quality starter gear from the pass

[vast oriole]

Dont think so

[vast oriole]

No

[tropic arch]

prolly dumb question but am i just stiking with the same armor from the power pass?

[lavish mortar]

Until 1660+ when you can transfer to aegir ancient gear, yes

[tropic arch]

ok didnt know if i should keep spamming honing on it or not lol

[vast oriole]

you stick to it till 1730 for your information

[tropic arch]

ty

[steel wadi]

Do we still use the same honing materials with serka HM gear ?

[candid lake]

no

[dim pulsar]

same JUICE, new mats

[steel wadi]

Oh hell no

[candid lake]

shards is same too

so just destructions, guardians and abidos are new

[steel wadi]

did KR get conversion for these new mats ?

so for example 1 new fusion material for 5 abidos fusions

[lavish mortar]

Yes

[steel wadi]

Ok so for 1730 chars (full +20) the play is to prioritizejuice and stockpiling mats for conversion

I think going for +25 weap from such cases is not worth it then considering this conversion list

[marsh grove]

will new abidos be craftable with same t4 mats?

[marsh grove]

oh wow, tyvm

do you know the pure gold cost?

cause material wise that's barely more expensive than current

[vast oriole]

no

i dont have ss for it

[marsh grove]

kk, tyvm for that info tho

[vast oriole]

can try to find

[vast oriole]

go it

i would guess its with max crafting cost?

idk

[vast oriole]

I SENT IT FIRST

NOOB

[plain adder]

hi returning player after a year. my friend said i shouldve gotten a free gold skin this past year or something, but i havent played so i was wondering if i could email support or something and get one since it wasnt in my mailbox

[lavish mortar]

Nope its only 6% cost reduction

[vast oriole]

expired

[lavish mortar]

So probably like 520 base cost?

[plain adder]

dang sad when did they give it out?

[vast oriole]

august

[plain adder]

does the lost ark website not have a support ticket system?

[vast oriole]

it does

but they wont give it to you

[plain adder]

i dont see one in support section unless im dumb

[vast oriole]

they gave to players that were playing

if you didnt grab it, it expired

[plain adder]

ima just try to beg cant hurt xD

[vast oriole]

?support

[buoyant dock]

Reminder for our new users, we are NOT affiliated with Amazon nor Smilegate. Please stop asking mods for in game support/help.
Contact customer support: https://help.id.amazongames.com/hc/en-us Create a ticket via the AI Chat button bottom right of the page.

Amazon Official Discord: https://discord.gg/playlostark

https://i.imgur.com/VlNTyma.png

[plain adder]

i am day 1 player returning if that would infleujnce em at all lol

[vast oriole]

no it wont

[plain adder]

ill make them 😠

[vast oriole]

gl

[plain adder]

my dad is jeff bezos ill say

[naive comet]

how do i get enlightenment points?

[plain adder]

ty for help tho

just played 1 day but valkraye really fun

[vast oriole]

https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/resources/ark-passive-system-guide

[marsh grove]

ty

[plain adder]

that ai button is crazy lol so hidden. so dumb imo but w/e

[torpid marsh]

technical question, is this normal RAM usage? Isn't it a bit too high?

LOA and Discord open ^

[dim pulsar]

well its fine

i have 35gb usage with dc/loa/opera(with 60 tabs)

and win11 is using 5gb++

[torpid marsh]

wtf u doing with 60 tabs

[dim pulsar]

dont ask

[torpid marsh]

I rather not

xD

[vast oriole]

mine is around the same

[dim pulsar]

20gb for loa and opera

[limpid aurora]

time to farm mats for new abidos. I take bids for the first 10k Abidos

[subtle patio]

do people still do their ebony cube tickets or is it better to trade it in for paradise elysian attempt tickets?

[vast oriole]

i do cubes personally

since i get absolutely shit on with paradise

at least cubes is guaranteed loot

not the channel for that

[torpid marsh]

hmmm

ig fusions?

[vast oriole]

depends if you feel lucky with special taps

[torpid marsh]

that's the neat part, I don't

🥲

[vast oriole]

than fusions

[zenith plank]

Are servers down?

It says region is closed

[vast oriole]

nop

https://help.playlostark.com/hc/en-us/articles/37758165669659-Error-Message-The-Region-is-Closed-and-Can-t-Be-Selected

do these

[naive comet]

can anyone explain why there is that little yellow hazard mark on my ability stone?

it says my engravings dont match.

[timber mauve]

Because one or both of the engravings on the rock don’t match what engravings you have equipped in the engraving menu

Well, looks like one doesn’t match but yeah.

[naive comet]

ok. im gonna have to watch a video to figure out how to fix that lol

[timber mauve]

You cut a new rock with engravings that match

[dim pulsar]

whats the class? since u had 2/2 from express

[naive comet]

its an artillerist

[dim pulsar]

u should run aoa >> barricade

[naive comet]

ok. where do i get a new rock?

[timber mauve]

If it’s a character using the express event, you should’ve gotten one from there that’s precut

If not, you buy them from the auction house

[naive comet]

changing it to all out attack worked

[coral perch]

Whats the play now just focus on one charachter or hone alts as well?

[vast oriole]

Whats your main ilvl

Whats your alts ilvl

[dim pulsar]

new player? focus on main

[vast oriole]

Whats cp is your main

[coral perch]

1735

[vast oriole]

1735 is the ilvl or cp

[coral perch]

Ilvl

[sullen solstice]

my valk is 1699.16 rn, I've been thinking about how long to hold off on the progression due to mokoko status. probably best to wait until 3rd of feb right? and just do as much as I can on that day before reset to catch the rewards from the kazeros challenge boxes still

[vast oriole]

Whats your cp then

[coral perch]

1735ilvl 3300CP

[vast oriole]

Then go alts

[faint cedar]

No point doing anything else til soft reset on main

[dim pulsar]

yeah i would do like that, wait for 3rd and hone as last thing before update

[sullen solstice]

also when do you do adv honing 21-40?

[dim pulsar]

?advhoning

[buoyant dock]

Optimal Advanced Honing Order
+12 -> 1-10 -> +14 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-40 -> Continue to normal hone.
Calculated with no additional materials (Books & Solars) and full on grace for advanced honing (Scrolls & Solars used on full grace only). Personal costs may vary when using an abundance of these items should you have them. You can estimate your costs using Maxrolls Honing Calculator https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/upgrade-calculator

[sullen solstice]

ohhh

so you dont go +19 before 1740 at all

[coral perch]

And whats the best alt parking spot? 1710?

[dim pulsar]

u can, but its less efficient

[vast oriole]

Yeah

[dim pulsar]

since ah30/40 gives u bonus 3% of stat

[faint cedar]

I think I honed manually to +16 armor 18 weap then poured all special taps into armor while doing adv hone manually

Since for efficiency free taps on armor gives u the most value for ilvl at 20 a pop

[sullen solstice]

i mean im on +18 for everything besides helmet at +17 to not go to 1700 for mokoko but if I had special taps I would smash them all into weapon ngl

same chance to hit for more profit on average no?

[sullen solstice]

1710 alts is wild

[dim pulsar]

well more "power" but using way more tappies

[sullen solstice]

double yeah

[lavish mortar]

Takes more leaps, so its fewer chances is all

[sullen solstice]

but the profit is way more than double if you hit no?

[dim pulsar]

its 2.5x more, and in power its well yeah 3x more

[lucid axle]

anyone able to give a tldr to KRs update or send the link

[dim pulsar]

but if u get like 2k tappies u can hit 0, but on armor u could tap 2/3

its RNG

[dim pulsar]

https://lostark.game.onstove.com/News/Notice/Views/13339

[lucid axle]

[dim pulsar]

new raid, new mats

thats like tldr

[sullen solstice]

u could do the same on weap, its the same chance, just rng after all

[dim pulsar]

its up to u

[sullen solstice]

im not tapping anything anyways lol

do we know how long the first race will be live?

probably unrealistic to still get the title if im 1700 rn right

[obsidian valve]

#toomuchrng

[faint cedar]

Its moved from 1680-1710

Before ark grid 1680 was the most efficient

But with ark grid core pity farming, having access to kaz nm is pretty big

[dim pulsar]

when sereca will release, so like 3months

[sullen solstice]

yeah i get that, its just higher than my main XD

[faint cedar]

Well that’s by choice right

[dim pulsar]

dont take "vets" parking alts as ur point of view

[sullen solstice]

i just started playing again

[obsidian valve]

and here i am still with 1640 alts 😅

they need to nerf honing again

[sullen solstice]

im at 1699 1695 1670 1670 1660 1640

[dim pulsar]

1680 is most efficient still, 1710 if u want to do ark grid

[sullen solstice]

1640 will be replaced with feb event by 1700 bard

[faint cedar]

A lot of people have had countless power passes and time to raise alts, so the parking spot is really in accordance with the top end

If you’re new it doesn’t really apply to you

The tough balance for new players is gonna be power per ilvl, sometimes pushing level isn’t even gonna help you if you’re pugging on rats. You’ll lobby sim more often than not

(Or need to learn sides)

[obsidian valve]

got a couple close to 1680, still expensive though

[dim pulsar]

well less than before

[wise echo]

hello
this keyborad poped up for me today, any idea how to turn it off?

[dim pulsar]

wait u using controler?

[faint cedar]

I forget people can use controller ngl

[wise echo]

lul, genneraly no
but i have one connected to PC

[obsidian valve]

never seen that on screen keyboard before, but yeah this game is significantly better with kbm

[wise echo]

i unplugged it and its gone

[dim pulsar]

[faint cedar]

Probably detecting as primary input or something

[wise echo]

so its seems its time for new controler

[dim pulsar]

maybe

[faint cedar]

Weird

[obsidian valve]

mhm controller profile conflictions

[torpid marsh]

is that legendary?

[dim pulsar]

relics

[torpid marsh]

that's why we weep

[dim pulsar]

[lucid axle]

free taps or fusion for honing weapon past 20?

[vast oriole]

i took fusions

i didnt try freetapping weapon

takes too much

[limpid aurora]

well you ever want to normal hone a weapon past 20?

[vast oriole]

i did

[limpid aurora]

on main sure but on alts??

[astral root]

I feel like once you hit 1730 hitting weapon is the only thing that does make sense

[vast oriole]

i mean

we dont know if he meant on alt or main

[limpid aurora]

well imo even on Main it's not worth it atm. You have many other options to spend gold for cough Ark grid

[astral root]

If you do tap anyways

[vast oriole]

i eman yeah with the soft reset, its prob not worth

[lucid axle]

well just thinking about glow

[vast oriole]

purple glow > red

[lucid axle]

ark grid is resticted with how many astrogems i can get a day anyways

well i was to broke to get this purple glow

[astral root]

I think optimizing ark grid for substats is silly and not worth it

[lucid axle]

but rn maybe i can

[astral root]

You might as well work on lv9/10 gems instead

Or work on roster instead

At least those have an actual hard cap that you see a ROI

[candid lake]

roo?

o

[lucid axle]

yeah plan on just getting full 17P and call it a day

substats i cant give a fuck

[bold geyser]

What isn't worth?

[lucid axle]

usually after a soft reset to achieve the same ilvl its cheaper

im basically wasting gold for a cool glow lol

[bold geyser]

o

...no reason not to just keep special honing my weapon tho right 👉 👈

spending all my gold on AH rn

[rose jewel]

Playing lost ark, be free of this hell and go play digimon or something

[bold geyser]

o word

[rose jewel]

Or play cave story instead

[rose wren]

havent played lost ark inawhile

[rose jewel]

Washed up chelper smh

[bold geyser]

i should really finish cave story

i got a new computer back then and never got back to it

fine

[rose jewel]

You bought it?

[bold geyser]

humble bundle, i think?

or maybe just bought it, those were the brave frontier days of indie

[rose jewel]

It was free on cavestory.org

It's originally a freeware

[bold geyser]

lemme see if i can get a refund

"hello yes i bought this game 15 years ago i'd like my money back"

[rose jewel]

It's usually -2hrs played I think?

But god knows I never refunded a game

[bold geyser]

i refunded one for looking cool and claiming cool but not being cool

alright i'm bored of digimon i'm booting up loa

[rose jewel]

Didn't even last 10 seconds on digiman

Go play how many dudes then, it's a demo for now, fun for a couple hours

[bold geyser]

it did look funny 🙂

but nah i got plenty to play, plus this week is gonna be A4 learner group and tryna do a not-solo mordum before i try to learn hard mode

[astral root]

I think it's also a two week limit from purchase even if you dont go above 2 hrs

[rose wren]

on steam? yep

[rose jewel]

Just tell them that you thought it was 2 decades

[steel wadi]

Before I decide something with only half-knowledge .. what´s better for NE Souleater dmg-wise ? xD

My guts are screaming right one hahaha

[outer mason]

I would say right as well
But I don't know how important swiftness is to NE Souleaster

[rose jewel]

Would ask in the class ch ngl

[steel wadi]

Already did, just waiting for answers xD

[rose jewel]

Coz right is juicy, but maybe they have a swift threshold

[steel wadi]

Yeap, makes absolutely sense

[bold geyser]

so this is for sure the last level of elysian?

[rose jewel]

Allegedly, not home to see

Crucible should be the only one having extra lvs

[fervent mauve]

if I hone to 1700 do I lose koko even on a fresh account

[dim pulsar]

10 elysian, 15 crucible

[fervent mauve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1449848138591506525/1455055336867102790/son.gif

[bold geyser]

is there any scenario where i should be cutting accs or is it always underwater and i should just be scrapping them?

[vast oriole]

i just dismantle all

[bold geyser]

tragic

[lucid axle]

i like to keep 90+ ones for when i feel like tapping them but ive never done them so far lol

relic crushing smite or leg smoldering strike?

[vast oriole]

relic

always

[bold geyser]

are those paradise artifacts?

[shadow pasture]

Ark grid cores

[bold geyser]

oh yeah, gonna get a ton of those this week

[lavish mortar]

U doing kaz 😮

[bold geyser]

armchair

now that i actually have some AH going

[lavish mortar]

Good luck o7

[abstract dirge]

does the double awakening bug in crucible still exist this season or was it fixed ?

[bold geyser]

never tried it, thought it was fixed long ago

[livid fossil]

Thinking it was fixed

You can t skill till heart’s desire

[bold geyser]

how long would you say the gold shop H/0s are good for

tryna decide if i should get those or similar or save for better

(on alts, so...)

[shadow pasture]

they can basically last you till you get h/m

so like till 1730 i'd say

[dry pilot]

is special honing chest worth than bound gold chest?

[shadow pasture]

special honing is bis

unless ig you still got stuff like karma to do

[dry pilot]

im not yet 1680. Im doing adv honing to reach 1680

but lv6 chest is tons of leapstone

so im wondering

[dim pulsar]

special>some gold

[shadow pasture]

erm you dont need leapstones

[dim pulsar]

u can gather gold in raids soo

[shadow pasture]

unless you mean the circulated

[dim pulsar]

yeah he mean special tappies

[dry pilot]

yes

that's what i mean

sry, didnt specify that

[shadow pasture]

i'd just pick special honing then

[dry pilot]

[shadow pasture]

one free tap is thousands of gold saved

[dry pilot]

well i hope these stones gonna get me something good

tks guys

[dim pulsar]

well i wouldnt be that happy, expect worst of it

be surprised if u tap for free

[dry pilot]

it's not count on my luck

it literally count on the account's luck

[livid fossil]

Don’t get your hopes

[dry pilot]

it's rng

ofc im gonna put hopes

random bullshit go

[woeful patio]

do we have any estimate of recommended combat power for thaemine extreme?

[lavish mortar]

We know neither the ilvl requirements nor the dps check, so nope

[woeful patio]

oke thank you!

[lavish mortar]

Its not supposed to be difficult though

Meant to allow more people to experience g4 thae

[dim pulsar]

since it will be scaled to our POWER with ark grid its more than KR had

[livid fossil]

?advanhoning

[dim pulsar]

?advhoning

[buoyant dock]

Optimal Advanced Honing Order
+12 -> 1-10 -> +14 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-40 -> Continue to normal hone.
Calculated with no additional materials (Books & Solars) and full on grace for advanced honing (Scrolls & Solars used on full grace only). Personal costs may vary when using an abundance of these items should you have them. You can estimate your costs using Maxrolls Honing Calculator https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/upgrade-calculator

[unique fox]

What combat power should I be at ilvl 1660 ilvl?

[rose jewel]

Irrelevant, start worrying about it once you hit 1680 or start wanting to get into group play

[dim pulsar]

u can be either 600 or 1k it doesnt mean shit for normal raids/solo

[bold geyser]

100% in T4, probably not in T3

[dim pulsar]

T3 is gold and support juice

[molten grove]

800-900

[unique fox]

idk why but im pretty low at like 730, but I guess it dont matter atm

[vast oriole]

it doesnt matter before 1680+

[rose jewel]

It does not

[vast oriole]

since thats when you will start to go for karma

ancient accessories

then ark grid at 1700+

[rose jewel]

Ignore Tere, new players will wildly vary on cp but will mostly be very low

[vast oriole]

(those gives a lot of cp)

[rose jewel]

You'll lack all the stuff veterans have, and it's a lot obtained over a long time

[plain adder]

hi are there any ways to get free or event ancient accessories once i get to 1680 or do i need to refine myself or buy it?

[rose jewel]

No, buy from gold shop or market

[vast oriole]

(or wait accs chest from hell keys, they dont cost shards or gold to cut, but its very low chance you will get anything)

[plain adder]

ah okay ty! prob too poor for that rn xD

[vast oriole]

yes and no

the accessories int he gold shop cost 30k

but it can use bound gold

and doesnt cost pheons

so its not terrible

[plain adder]

i see ty. i think my friend is going to just help me out xD he just thought there was free ones somewhere but guess not

[vast oriole]

there was free one in the last express iirc

not in this one

[rose jewel]

Last express had, not this one, but these ones are better as they are high compared to single mid last ones, yes they cost but are stronger even if by a bit

[vast oriole]

(but the free ones were terrible tbh, people needed to still replace them so)

[rose jewel]

To pug you can do so with these gold ones perfectly fine and be a decent rat

[vast oriole]

people wont care as long as you have leaf

(and dont wipe them)

[pulsar surge]

Is it too late to jump back in now with the event express?

[dim pulsar]

no, its not too late

[dry pilot]

?advhoning

[buoyant dock]

Optimal Advanced Honing Order
+12 -> 1-10 -> +14 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-40 -> Continue to normal hone.
Calculated with no additional materials (Books & Solars) and full on grace for advanced honing (Scrolls & Solars used on full grace only). Personal costs may vary when using an abundance of these items should you have them. You can estimate your costs using Maxrolls Honing Calculator https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/upgrade-calculator

[rose wren]

about a month left on express, decent usage

[rose jewel]

Too late for what tho

That's like preemptive fomo

[plain adder]

for express, can u do mordum solo or only raid does it count for express? bc it says raid but someone said solo still works?

[paper walrus]

it works

[trail hound]

Hi, how does gold claim limit work? Is it 6 per roster, or 6 per character?

[mighty stirrup]

6 characters in your roster can claim gold from raids per week

and then each character has an individual limit of gold from 3 raids per week

[rose wren]

6character per 3raids=18gold earner

[trail hound]

I see.. thank you

[pulsar surge]

Too late to like play i play after work so idk if casual can make a use out of it basically

[mighty stirrup]

the express is free, even if you dont max out the rewards its better than nothing.

should never play the game without an express, its awful. the better question is whether you even have time to play this game (it dont sound like you do)

[rose wren]

casual can

[brisk bridge]

Anyone know what the stars on the 100 quality paradise gear means? Sometimes its 0 1 or 2 from what ive seen.

[rose jewel]

I mean, I don't think casuals will always juice out every single event to the fullest coz they won't ever play as much, but you can start playing right now and get what you can, you can always start at any time

[lavish mortar]

More star = stronger

[brisk bridge]

Strong what? Base stats or resonance effects. What determines it being a star or not.

Fate embers only?

[lavish mortar]

I think its just better resonance but honestly im not sure. Never had anything 100q in paradise

[pulsar surge]

Not really working 12 hr shift out here

[vast oriole]

i mean you kind need some time to play a mmo

even tho its way less than what it used to be

[rose jewel]

Just play for fun whenever you can and stop worrying about maximizing profits from an event that happens several times a year then

[astral root]

If you can do three raids a week with 3 chaos dungeons + paradise you're in a good spot

[vast oriole]

but yeah play 1 char for fun

do solo raids

[rose jewel]

He is in a good spot if he has fun even if he didn't finish the 3 raids + paradise

[mighty stirrup]

yeah just try it out man. if its too time consuming just drop the game. f2p anyway

[rose jewel]

Game won't go anywhere

Events come and go

Even if you didn't catch up this one the next big patch will have another set of with a new char

[molten grove]

Can’t wipe grp if u deadge

[molten grove]

Ask him to send u his mid low junk he’s gonna dismantle anyway

[dry pilot]

which one is better guys?

[dim pulsar]

right

[dry pilot]

well 18 box but only 1 can use

[midnight nimbus]

I heard there was a guaranteed weapon quality tap? Where is/was that from?

[dim pulsar]

its not here anymore

and it was OMEGA rare to get

last event lucky boxes (rng in rng for rng)

[rose wren]

was too much hopium

[dim pulsar]

wasnt this shit like 0.02% to hit?

and u had to hit also low % to get lucky box too

[midnight nimbus]

Probably would've been 88 to 89 upgrade anyway /copium

[dim pulsar]

so it was like 0.005 to get weapon quality tap

[mellow mauve]

we love free taps

[plucky drum]

friends help

[dim pulsar]

where u post it

[plucky drum]

which one?

wealth?

[dim pulsar]

gold or stones if u need

[plucky drum]

or gold

ok

[dim pulsar]

wealth is nothing just some more normal mats

[plucky drum]

what the diff with glowing chest?

[lavish mortar]

Whats your karma look like.

[plucky drum]

ohh ok

[dim pulsar]

sir, not here

[rose jewel]

can you report yourself frfr

[mellow mauve]

how do I always end up here, xdd

[vast oriole]

XDDDDDDDDDD

I CANT

[late wolf]

First time to get netherworld key, it says it will instant die if go to even number floor. How to avoid even number stage? is it random?

[vast oriole]

yes

[late wolf]

Netherworld key get me 1040 roster XP

[vast oriole]

so i foyu die once, either you take the chance and jump again

[late wolf]

2 jump 2 death

[vast oriole]

or you stop it and youll get rewrards according to your floor

yeah

xD

[marble shell]

can you mail skins to other people

[rose jewel]

we all did that at some point

[late wolf]

[vast oriole]

same server? yes

[marble shell]

ty

[hearty kraken]

?paradise

[buoyant dock]

Min/Max Guide for Early Elysian & Crucible _

[wind shuttle]

hi! On your oponion what would be the necessary combat lvl for Act 4 NM?

[lucid axle]

party finder probably 1700-1800

but 1600-1700 probably fine i think

[sullen solstice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqXOKEef8fQ

what do we think about the recommended honing stuff?

i mean it seems reasonable but bot says otherwise, didnt do the calcs myself yet

[dim pulsar]

ImDefild is BIG NO NO to get some usefull stuff

since he uses $$ to get stuff and hes OMEGA whale

[sullen solstice]

well the guide is targetting new/returning players imo

[late wolf]

again, is it very high chance to get wrong floor?

[sullen solstice]

sounds pretty reasonable overall besides the combat power reqs

[dim pulsar]

ark grid isnt rly NEW player friendly

[rose wren]

most of his guide belong in the trash

[astral root]

Express is definitely geared towards doing AH 1-20 first

[sullen solstice]

well yeah but if ur at 1700+ you gotta look into it anyways, 1700 for new players is not the focus point imo

[sullen solstice]

yeah i was more so talking about after that

?advhoning

[buoyant dock]

Optimal Advanced Honing Order
+12 -> 1-10 -> +14 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-40 -> Continue to normal hone.
Calculated with no additional materials (Books & Solars) and full on grace for advanced honing (Scrolls & Solars used on full grace only). Personal costs may vary when using an abundance of these items should you have them. You can estimate your costs using Maxrolls Honing Calculator https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/upgrade-calculator

[dim pulsar]

also this is kinda biased, recomending full 8s yes, but not for new player

its more like 4/5months stuff

not asap 2 month "quick job"

[astral root]

Honestly these guides dont really capture rng variance

[sullen solstice]

he's saying +20 reg +30 adv over +18 reg +40 adv, that was mostly my question

[astral root]

HAHAHAH

That's hilarious

[sullen solstice]

ofc

[dim pulsar]

he uses $$ to pay for stuff so he skips most of "grind"

[sullen solstice]

i will be sitting at 7s for a while

[astral root]

No, 19-20 first makes zero sense

[sullen solstice]

got better investments than that for my gold for now

karma specifically

[astral root]

Especially for weapon

[sullen solstice]

lets make it easier

https://uwuowo.mathi.moe/character/CE/Lilithvanastraea

this is my current main

picture isnt updated for some reason but u can see the stats urself

next thing for me should be karma + ancient accessories right

[dim pulsar]

BRACELET

BRACELET

[sullen solstice]

oh is bracelet that big of a deal?

[dim pulsar]

yes its BIG BIG BIG

[sullen solstice]

i have about 950 pheons so I was gonna look into accs next

[dim pulsar]

250-350cp even easy

[sullen solstice]

damn

[dim pulsar]

if u can get some omega cheap sure, but gold shop ones are fine too

[sullen solstice]

the express one has insane dogshit rolls tho numbers wise

[sullen solstice]

gold is my biggest issue

im sitting on about 2k orehas cuz i got lucky in paradise with her

[dim pulsar]

thats why u slowly get stuff

ur 1730 ilvl ISNT a thing for next 4/5 months

[sullen solstice]

i can generate about 500k per week with my trash roster i thing

[sullen solstice]

oh

[vast oriole]

unless you freetap... yeah...

[sullen solstice]

rip

[dim pulsar]

even 1710 isnt ur thing for next 2month

[vast oriole]

fucking clueless

[sullen solstice]

oh x2

thats unfortunate

i rly wanted to try for 1740 as long as the race is around ngl xd

[dim pulsar]

u gotta slowly gather stuff like karma (enlight pots too), bracelet, accessories, AH 30->40

[sullen solstice]

last time I quit cuz i wasnt able to get to eclipse level

[dim pulsar]

no it wont happen for u

[sullen solstice]

unlucko

cant catch up sadge

[dim pulsar]

if u quit the game, u wont do LATEST hardest stuff u want

it simply wont workout

[sullen solstice]

i started very late as well

after akkan release

is it possible to catch up to latest content over time if u play consistently at all?

time is not an issue for me i can sink a ton

[vast oriole]

yes, it will just take some time

and some patience

[dim pulsar]

i have 1730 almost WITH 1y break after aegir release

[sullen solstice]

thats fine

[sullen solstice]

i need to learn the current raids anyways

[dim pulsar]

but it took me 6x same class to optimise gemmies and books

[sullen solstice]

im fairly comfortable with brel hm now besides like 2 mechs

but mordum ive only done solo so far

[sullen solstice]

yeah I had 6 artists before xd

to share gems etc

but gems are so cheap now for lower levels that it kinda works out

[rose wren]

every1 is suppose to be at different stages of the game, thats how mmorpg functions

[sullen solstice]

obviously

[dim pulsar]

most tfm players are bussing stuff, WHALING or even RMTing

its not pure F2P zone

[rose wren]

if u keep playing, ull reach there

[dim pulsar]

or omega lucksacks

[sullen solstice]

i know at least 3 non bussing f2p players that are in it

thats why im asking since I dont plan on spending

[dim pulsar]

no u wont make it

[rose wren]

i never spend either

[sullen solstice]

yeah i wont

[dim pulsar]

since now they use ark grid in TFM lowest party is like 3.5kcp +++

[sullen solstice]

just mentioning since u said its not f2p zone

ok so next things for my valk in order would be

bracelet > finishing karma > ancient accessories?

[dim pulsar]

bracelet>Accessories>karma

[sullen solstice]

i wont hone until mokoko is over anyways

[sullen solstice]

alright

[astral root]

Some other thoughts:

if you have old T3 cubes, I'd recommend running them to try and get a lv10 t3 for final splendor
your Enlightment is INCREDIBLY low, especially since you don't have ancient accs. Try to get at least high%s or ideally High% + low% since your goal is chasing newest hardest raids

[dim pulsar]

since acc will unlock u big power

[astral root]

I'd also swap your orb to the new support style one

[sullen solstice]

yeah I started doing karma yesterday night, i got my enlight at 6/21 now

[astral root]

but that's just a personal preference thing

[sullen solstice]

on dps valk?

[astral root]

Yeah*

[sullen solstice]

oh okay

[astral root]

sorry caps

[sullen solstice]

i still have a chest I can swap them any time

[astral root]

the damage you get from the damage ones isn't worth running the extra uiltily

although the heal orb from last season is much better

[sullen solstice]

tbh I havent even read into the orbs

was focused on learning new raids and systems

been back for like a week at best

[candid lake]

welcom,e back!

[astral root]

For rings specifically, try to make your high%/low% Cdamage and crit rate respecitvely

[sullen solstice]

also I noticed that I have 0 stronghold upgrades available since they all require SH LvL 30 but im stuck at 27, is there a questline in the sh that gives xp or sth that i missed?

[dim pulsar]

nope, gotta send ships

and craft some stuff (abidos mostly) to get some xp

its longest grind

[rose wren]

no theres deadzone where u have to grind out

[candid lake]

are low crit rate rings worth it tho?

for valk

[dim pulsar]

well he surely isnt 99.99% cr capped

[candid lake]

like is it enough to be able to reallocate some nodes into dmg in ark passive?

[dim pulsar]

surely u can get more swift if u have cr on rings

also depen on bracelet

[candid lake]

o true

[dim pulsar]

this stuff is more than "just crit cap"

[candid lake]

their bracelet is

a bit too low for crit cap

[dim pulsar]

thats why i said BRACELET BRACELET

[candid lake]

no fak u

[sullen solstice]

im sorryyyyyyyyy dont scream XD

god damn this shit is frustrating asf

[astral root]

it could be depending on config

[candid lake]

I would help u if u were on na tho

[sullen solstice]

might have to get back into hell mode raids to build resilience again

[candid lake]

idk if hell mode is active atm

also

[dim pulsar]

meh no1 rly does hell now

[candid lake]

it's getting removed in the future

[sullen solstice]

im like 99.999% sure they said its getting revamped

recently

[dim pulsar]

yeah, disabled for some time with revamp

[sullen solstice]

yup

[dim pulsar]

idk when it will happen tho

[sullen solstice]

thats why I wanna do it

[candid lake]

o i could have sworn it was getting removed

[sullen solstice]

gotta get those DL titles before

[candid lake]

or it's normalizations were getting removed

[sullen solstice]

at least the first 3

[dim pulsar]

removed for the time of "revamp", they didnt specify when it will be here again

[astral root]

also I would just check if you have all the enlightment potions

[sullen solstice]

hell brel is hell on earth

[astral root]

skill point potions for valk is w/e

[sullen solstice]

no need to check, I dont

[astral root]

esp on dps

[sullen solstice]

they werent a thing last time I played

at least the newer ones

[dim pulsar]

start to get all of them, since it can be 2 weeks or 2months job

[astral root]

once you somewhat fix your build

I would actually hone and get rid of your mokoko status

to start getting shards from 1700 chaos

[sullen solstice]

I was gonna wait until last week of the event to hone

to get into raids

[astral root]

save your blue tokens to grab extra gold bars

[sullen solstice]

but ig if I have adequate cp etc that solves itself

[sullen solstice]

I buy out honing mats + gold weekly

issue is, this char might get into raids even without mokoko after fixed build

[astral root]

i think if you could get enough to do that every week

[sullen solstice]

but the other 5 will absolutely not xd

[sullen solstice]

i can 100%

i have them bought out day 1

[astral root]

you should just hone but

idk

i feel like i'm just saying shit that can help but still probably won't get you to 1730

by the time serca comes out

[dim pulsar]

just honing wont do shit

[sullen solstice]

1730 appearantly is miles a way

[dim pulsar]

raw 1730 wont even do raids since gatekeeping

[sullen solstice]

full 7s should be enough for now tho right

[dim pulsar]

should

ofc they will get full 8s as prio in party vs 7s

[lucid axle]

most ppl 1730 have full 8s minimum

[astral root]

I think for valk just trying to get a lv10 t3 would be good

[sullen solstice]

Im 1699

[lucid axle]

as a new player you most likely be heavily gatekept if you rush things since theres always gonna be more ppl geared

[astral root]

since only thing better than that is a T4 lv 9 (and an 10 ofc)

since you mentioend you had a lot of artists that might be a good idea

[lucid axle]

rn best to stay as a mokoko

[astral root]

might need to find someone as a carry though

[lucid axle]

it sucks but if numbers make you happy can always check your placing in uwuowo

[astral root]

I'd argue stashing astrogems now would be a good idea

[lucid axle]

[astral root]

not right now of course but once you get full karma + ancients

[dim pulsar]

this isnt helping, he would be top 80% in 1700ilvl zone

and thats OMEGA RAT

[astral root]

Honestly I almost wanna just say

"are you willing to play support"

LMAO

so much easier to rat raids as support

[dim pulsar]

nah supp is Even easier to get cp as lower ilvl is

[lucid axle]

yeah but its a good metric if you want to see your number go up while your ilvl stays the same

[dim pulsar]

my dps valk build is 500cp while supp one is almost 900cp (1645ilvl)

[sullen solstice]

Yeah doing that to get into raids on All my chars lowkey

[lucid axle]

yeah no matter what title or experience you have if you arent geared ppl wont accept you

[sullen solstice]

Tru

[astral root]

I also feel like geared valks are a dime a dozen

[sullen solstice]

Well i have 6 artists xd

[astral root]

especially in the 1700 under range

so you're fighting every giga juicer

[sullen solstice]

I made valk exactly because i wanted sth else but still have the possibility to swap

Same reason my next event char will be my bard

[dim pulsar]

theres 2% of geared valks, and 98% RATS cuz every1 reco valk as friendly class for new player, and at this point u have more RATTY players than any other class

[sullen solstice]

Its kinda either or no?

[astral root]

that's fair

i find myself fighting a lot of dps valks in pf

With Guardian Knight being released I feel like you'll find a lot of ppl taking more supports

just because ppl wanna play the new class

[autumn oar]

anyone knows how much karma cost per tree?

[astral root]

170 bottles per tree

[autumn oar]

thanks!

and gold should be a lot

i presume

[lavish mortar]

170k, give or take, is average for r6 l21

[lavish mortar]

Per tree*

[autumn oar]

damn

[bold geyser]

processed destinies can help a little 😛

[astral root]

yeah karma is expensive as f

new players I htink will also run into a destiny stone block

i burnt like 300 just on my GS getting her to 21 on 2 trees plus 14 on evo

[autumn oar]

well i have one character at 1730, but others are stuck around 1685-1690

was considering getting lv7 gems on them

• karma done to r6lv21

or keep pushing the hoan

[plucky drum]

how does one acquire more silver?