lost-ark-help

[minor briar]

just in ur life skill UI

[wary sage]

like this

[minor briar]

ye

[wary sage]

oki

i have 2 last questions about this

do you think this tools are enough for me or should i make another one

and what should i do about bad tools

[minor briar]

how much it cost in eu?

[wary sage]

30k per tool

[minor briar]

i think just dual tool it

and bad tools, drop or just store

[wary sage]

you mean before i kick tree, just change to the other

got it

[steel goblet]

quick question what are these inferno modes cant seem to google anything about them

[minor briar]

equalised harder versions of bosses

valtan to brel, achates, caliligos and hanu

[steel goblet]

thanks

[minor briar]

going away in 2 weeks? or next month

but i wouldnt bother as a new player

way too hard to get into/clear

[lone hamlet]

hi guys does seven atun spawn every hour today?

i dont see him on the mini map but i see the other field bosses in like south vern...

[vast oriole]

Bosses in t3 spawns everyday every hour

Its not the case for sevek atun that spawns only on certain days

[livid fossil]

If it not on event tab thing he is not scheduled to be out. And it’s one down you can’t farm him.

Done

[lone hamlet]

ohhhhh

got it... thanks!!

[near folio]

hi Mates are still some people up for low abys or guardian ? i rejoined lost ark and im at 1330 score 🙂

[dim pulsar]

nope

better to use Power pass it will give u 1640ilvl and u will start Express Event

[rose jewel]

Assuming you're playing for the story, none of those are needed to progress, only at 1415+ is when you start crafting obligatory progression armors/weapon

If you're stuck due to not having orehas to hone, either grab some from the ark pass (it should have some at some level idk which), buy them from market or start getting gold and craft them yourself, it's very ass but this is the only way to progress until Feb patch

[high flame]

Hi
I’m trying to complete the quest Advanced Honing
It says I need the achievement “Waned Desire”, but I’m not sure how to get it

any help?

[rose jewel]

Do NOT, EVER, use search tab, it's always guide tab where you need to look

As for where that is, kazeros first raid echidna, only need gate one for the achievement

Kazeros overture

[high flame]

Thank you so much for your help appreciate it

[livid fossil]

That stupid red pattern is gonna take some time to find the safe spot In mordom

[cyan kiln]

Which one? The start of g1?

[rose jewel]

Which of all of them

[bold geyser]

the thaemine many-line pattern?

[rose jewel]

Oh the very first one

[bold geyser]

db had a good rule of thumb watch where the first line goes down then find a spot where none of the other ones touch

[rose jewel]

It is extremely easy once you figure it out, but it sucks massive 🐔 until you do

[bold geyser]

thats a cucco right

[livid fossil]

lol

Yeah very first one

[bold geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/zelda-ocarina-of-time-spin-cucco-gif-13128832273674141895

[tender flicker]

sometimes it helps to step off the initial position for 1 explosion then back on if you can't get a perfectly non-overlapped spot

[bold geyser]

lemme find it

[rose jewel]

Sometimes you literally find a blank space and stay there all the way, funny, and everyone runs around getting hit by it all

[cyan kiln]

I do this: stand on first line. Ignore second line. Move to where 3rd doesn’t overlap. If 4 overlaps then move out for first bang. Move back. After 3rd spacebar in between 1st and second.

[bold geyser]

think solo only has 3 lines yeah?

[rose jewel]

It does? That sucks

[bold geyser]

[cyan kiln]

Again I didn’t do solo. 🙁 I should do solo Brel and mordum on my non earner express char.

[rose jewel]

I'm very tempted to hone something like my db or slayer to do solo modes and check how they are

[dim pulsar]

in solo just stay first red, and 2 can go off then spacebarr out EASY

[rose jewel]

Maybe even get the gold instead of another char if I don't have time for groups

[cyan kiln]

I couldn’t do express on main6 this time so went zerkbrain

[rose jewel]

I did on bard

I hate myself

[cyan kiln]

Haha I had a bard but sent her to the professor

[bold geyser]

bard supremacy

[rose jewel]

Bard is just very demanding for me

Super hyperactive

Fingers hurt after a raid or two

[livid fossil]

I did group with my valk but db is doing it solo

[dim pulsar]

🫠 while playing as bard

[rose jewel]

Maybe someone has the data (I know it should be on uwu but I'm working and it sux on phone) but I believe bard has quite a significant higher APM compared to artist

Or pala

Or even valk prob

[dim pulsar]

well not by much more, but artist if u want can also be spammy

[rose jewel]

No ty

[dim pulsar]

valk is tight on her buffs tho

[rose jewel]

Like pala

[dim pulsar]

tfu pala

[rose jewel]

Been playing pala long enough for it to not be an issue, it's just natural "check the buff time"

[dim pulsar]

i DELETED pala while 1490 was current content (he was 1475)

[rose jewel]

But pala is a lot more annoying since heavenly takes like a second+ to actually send the buff after the cast

Valk is much faster, thus much easier to time

[dim pulsar]

week later guild asked me to do kakul inferno

[bold geyser]

just wish i could make weakauras

[dim pulsar]

BIG RED ALERT if ur 0.5s of buff

[rose jewel]

I kinda hate pala but at the same time it's so extremely braindead it helps me not to get carpal tunnel

[bold geyser]

sounds good to meeee

[rose jewel]

And do decently good on raids

[bold geyser]

nah i dont even need the warning i just want customizable icons and timers

[livid fossil]

Wasn’t there supposed to be a mirror after stagger

[bold geyser]

once you finish the purple bar

[livid fossil]

I must be blind

[bold geyser]

i mean, mirrors aren't exactly easy to see

[dim pulsar]

2nd stagger, big BAR, not small

[livid fossil]

So he has bar under him red after pattern

[bold geyser]

yuh

[livid fossil]

Stagger

I died after got rid of bar

[dim pulsar]

3 red lines into smol stagger -> 3-5s of whatever -> BIG stagger where he just afks -> mirror (safe spot tp)

[rose jewel]

Mirror can be on any cardinal, aka 3 6 9 12

Or diagonal

Just look around

[dim pulsar]

game even pings u where it is

[rose jewel]

It does? Wtf

Baby mode

[dim pulsar]

yeah

its OMEGA BABY mode

[bold geyser]

..."in any direction, really"

[rose jewel]

Back in my days

[livid fossil]

lol

I didn’t see no ping

[dim pulsar]

it pings

[bold geyser]

starting to thing yall have never seen a mirror before

[dim pulsar]

"mirror reality"

[bold geyser]

oh do you not get the war effort buffs in solo mode? 🙁

[dim pulsar]

what war effort?

[bold geyser]

the level 10/10/10 shit

thats still a thing isn't it

[dim pulsar]

might not work in solo

solo is nerfed sooo much i dont even need more buffed char

i basicly did mordum solo without gems

[bold geyser]

but muh buffs 🙁

my gems are pasasble but my accs are ass

[dim pulsar]

u dont even need gems to clear

[bold geyser]

i get that, but muh buffs

[dim pulsar]

inside buffs from solo are WAY more op than some war buff

[rose jewel]

So instead of 5981564902 quadribazillion damage I only do 10 billion per hit, oh no

[bold geyser]

want my quadribazillion damage

[dim pulsar]

3min for gate

40% of waiting

[rose jewel]

GR?

[dim pulsar]

G2 solo brel

[rose jewel]

Eww

Fund me one char from 1640 to 1680 and I'll do solo modes

[dim pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-man-no-man-no-gif-7347715096894588969

[rose jewel]

Jk I haven't raided in 2 weeks no time

[livid fossil]

So it was before mirror

I guess I need to find sword out

Cause i just die

[rose jewel]

What sword again

[livid fossil]

Find the dude with sword out

Safe spot

[dim pulsar]

its X pattern

[livid fossil]

The dragon bezerk but I still killed him that was weird

[rose jewel]

Coz berserk ain't a direct wipe, it just eats steroids

I'm more surprised by the fact you took till berserk but a clear is a clear

[bold geyser]

he was just toying with them

[livid fossil]

lol I was doing that mech blind I totally forgot what to do

[bold geyser]

the one where you have to stab the dragon til it dies?

[rose jewel]

But how do you stab the dragon

[livid fossil]

Forgot the kharmine

[rose jewel]

From the front? The back? The sides? Do you need fancy backflips while doing it?

[bold geyser]

but a chat pops up and says "It's Kharmine Time!" how could you forget

[rose jewel]

He kharmine'd all over him so no chance

[faint cedar]

[livid fossil]

Wasn’t looking at pop up

I was smashing buttons saying die please

G2 might actually have to use sidereal and why Did my bar turn into 3 buttons is the infection

[rich monolith]

Ummm

I cant destroy or dismantle an item

What can I do?

[rose wren]

sell

[faint cedar]

Did you try selling it to a vendor

[rich monolith]

Well no

Which one

[rose wren]

general

[rich monolith]

Thanks

[candid lake]

u prob turned into the fox

during the tornado fox pattern

[lavish mortar]

Or failing that on just guard that turns you into one

[lavish grove]

Wildsoul Guide

Click here to view the full guide

Jan 5, 2026, 10:35 PM

[tropic arch]

im a returning player and made a new char but is nineveh server dead? swear i hvnt seen a soul

[balmy plank]

Its not but most people are hanging out at the latest main city, Elnead in South Kurzan. If you power passed you'll end up there but if you're playing the story it'll be awhile before you're bumping into people

[tropic arch]

ah ok yea i didnt use the powerpass cause i dont remeber anything lol

[livid fossil]

Ah

Soho transfer

[balmy plank]

I usually recommend using the powerpass & express event anytime theyre available. They're temporary and will skip 100+ hours of content easily. If you want to play the story you can make a 2nd char to do so

If you get bored of the story you can play the endgame char. If you get overwhelmed by endgame you can play the story

[tropic arch]

lowkey might do that

[balmy plank]

There will also be major overhauls in a couple months that remove all the grind from 99% of the story

[tropic arch]

hmm yea guess ill just use the power pass thing is idk if i even like my class or not lol

[balmy plank]

You do only get 1 power pass so make sure you are happy with the class choice

?guides

[buoyant dock]

Helpful Guides

Maxroll's beginners guide: Website
Lost Ark Nexus class builds & additional guides: Website
Stoopzz new player guide: Video
Mattchupicchu Combat 101 game setup/mechanics: Video
Deathboi progression events guide: Video
Deathboi zero to hero: Video
Dubya ark passive guide: Video
Maxroll's written ark passive guide: Website
Johnpal Lost Ark Dojo guides: Playlist
Cauttyh game systems, inventory, gold guides: Playlist
Cauttyh class showcase: Video
Maxroll's written class selection information: Website

For any questions you can visit: #lost-ark-help Check the pinned comments!

[zenith plank]

The new witch raid coming out is that coming with new armour upgrade and a new weapon glow? To +26?

[balmy plank]

Cauttyh's class showcase video above highlights every class and their 2 respective builds. You can see exactly how an interesting class might play. The only class the video doesnt include is female paladin/Valkyrie.
Stoopzz new player guide is good if youre powerpassing. Deathbois progression event guide covers it too

[shy chasm]

No i think its a soft reset

[balmy plank]

It is a soft reset. Surely there is a new glow but rn we have zero details beyond that

[tropic arch]

alr thnx guesss i got videos to watch

preciate the help

[balmy plank]

Np

[balmy plank]

Its a big wall of text but Ill throw this next thing out there too. Itll help get you set up and first steps after using a powerpass

?quickstart

[zenith plank]

Ah so that means we’re going to what +30 you guys think?

[buoyant dock]

Quickstart Info

So you just powerpassed?

1. Visit Lostark.nexus to find your class guide. Using that guide set up...
2. Skills (K Menu)
3. Skill Runes
4. Engravings (P - Engraving tab)
5. Ark Passive (P menu - Ark Passive in bottom left)
6. Gems (Refacet for free at Gem NPC)
7. Dismantle settings here

---

8. Complete Arkesia Tour (Icon Beside Minimap)
9. Use Tour rewards (skill points & runes) to improve on your class build
10. Collect & Read Engraving books (20 Yellow Legendary books x5 engravings)
    Engraving books can be obtained various ways through many various NPC exchanges, event shops & event handouts

---

The Arkesia Tour will have you complete a number of simple quests and reward you with a large amount of horizontal & collectable completion including more skill points & addition skill runes to help your build.

If a Mokoko Express is ongoing, activate it from an icon beside your minimap. It will provide free items to help with the process above as well as provide things like honing support to make progression easer. There is only 1 Mokoko Express per region so choose your character carefully!

Congrats, you now have a functional build to start trying activities like daily Chaos Dungeons, Guardians & weekly Solo Raids.
For any questions you can visit: #lost-ark-help Check the pinned comments!
Pick up class roles from id:customize to get access to class specific channels and info.
Use command /class name to link any class guide from Lostark.nexus. (Example, /slayer)
You can use the ?guides command for a variety of video & written guides.

[balmy plank]

No its a soft reset. Like Valtan, Brel, Akkan gear was. We will gear transfer back down to ~12 or something. Itll vary off your starting gear level.

I think last time a +25 wep became +18

[zenith plank]

Oh so when we upgrade the new gear will we get. A +5 on it

Oh damn

So do you think there will be a +30 wep

[balmy plank]

No

The game has always capped at +25

& content has never required you to hone beyond +19/+20 anyway

[chrome juniper]

can some one help me for some reason my second awakening quest says its finished when I didnt, I started it earlier and did a bit of it and put it off for a bit to do some side quests first and then i cant seem to find and it says I completed it. I also just dont have the second awakening skill either, I went to talk to beatrice still nothing.

[rose jewel]

I mean, we really would need pictures of the quests you have or have not completed related to the awakening, your skills to see if it's really not there etc

We know the problem* but God knows what the solution is without evidence

[chrome juniper]

alright one second

[vast oriole]

do this one no?

its not in grey so its not finished

[chrome juniper]

well yea thats also what I tried

[rose jewel]

Did you use a powerpass

[chrome juniper]

but for some reason it didnt

im at shushire rn

[chrome juniper]

no never used on any character or any server i played on

[vast oriole]

https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/resources/awakening-guide

your elike here

youre not even closed to having finish the quest

for unlocking awakening

[rose jewel]

Do you have the song in your f2 sheet

Thank you stupid autocorrect

[chrome juniper]

yeah I have it but I had it before this quest I think cuz i dont remember right clicking on a music sheet recently

its likenot even therre i dont know ?

[rose jewel]

Go to J, click the quest, is there any "locate" or something button on the bottom right

[hearty kraken]

?pirate

[rose jewel]

Uhh

Scroll up

[rose wren]

?sailingcoins

[buoyant dock]

How to obtain Sailing Coins
Sailing Coins can be obtained from Adventure Island rewards, Sailing Co-op & 300 can be purchased daily from Merchant Odelia for 900 Adventure Seals in your stronghold market.

[hearty kraken]

thanks

[rose jewel]

Also

[hearty kraken]

i just need high sailing coins though

[rose jewel]

✅ the "view roster progression" box

[rose jewel]

So you have more than 1 character

[chrome juniper]

ive done this quest before i have done it twice no, i did this queset on 2 other servers before

[rose jewel]

Or, at the very least, factually, had

[vast oriole]

im pretty sure that quest is roster wide no

[chrome juniper]

its the first time i had this issue so im just confuseed

[vast oriole]

you cant do it multiple times on the same server

[rose jewel]

The quest is indeed rosterwide

[vast oriole]

unless you played on other servers before

ah yeah yous aid it

ok

wait, why you play on 3 different servers

[chrome juniper]

yeah i know it roster wide thats why im even more confused all my other characters on this server specfically are 35 or below

[rose jewel]

He hates himself that much to do a 4h quest that many times

[livid fossil]

[chrome juniper]

yea i know I just like lost ark base gameplay its peace ful for rme and i like long quests

[rose jewel]

We don't even know how your roster looks or looked like

A use of a powerpass is on the table

A knowledge transfer as well

Another char you forgot about

Could be a million reasons

[chrome juniper]

does this help?

I dont used power passes ever because I like just playing the game so

[rose jewel]

For the most part but not fully

So let's try something

Show again the quests you have on the right side of your screen

[rose jewel]

Now go to J and then Guide tab

[noble garden]

Whats this soft gesr reset i keep seeing mentioned

[rose jewel]

1730+

[vast oriole]

more details in 2 days

but yeah its 1730+

[noble garden]

Ok my mokoko ass isnt affected then tha ks

[vast oriole]

(kr gets new raid in 2 days that gives the mats to soft reset)

[vast oriole]

yep

[noble garden]

I am Staying at 1699 until feb

[rose jewel]

Thank you for letting us use your ass for tokens

[noble garden]

Thank you for giving me toke s

Is the mokoko ststus accoutn wide or character

If my main passes 1700 do i lose the status on all alts ?

[lavish mortar]

Roster i believe

[noble garden]

Ok

[rose jewel]

Hmm

[livid fossil]

Once you hit 1700!your cooked

[noble garden]

Haha

[rose wren]

roster

[noble garden]

I just came back and i am tryint to milk the mokoko status

[rose wren]

most r

[rose jewel]

What's that last quest

I did the awakening quest 3+ years ago I don't remember names

[chrome juniper]

which one?

[rose wren]

2nd awaken named like [journey]

[rose jewel]

The path of a true blabla

[rose jewel]

Nvm useless stuff

[chrome juniper]

this is what it should be

but I dont see it

[rose jewel]

Didn't you just have a quest telling you to go to shushire

[rose wren]

u completed it

[rose jewel]

Did it suddenly poof

[chrome juniper]

yea it went poof i have clips to prove it since i took clips earlier of just damage numbers

[livid fossil]

Can scroll up to see the other parts

[rose jewel]

Ehhhhh

[chrome juniper]

its hard to see but this is today I took clips

the first pic, is from 17:35 and the second is from 16:43

so it just went poof in teh span of a hour

dont know when

[rose jewel]

Do you see any kind of quest mark on any of the shushire areas

Press M and check all locations

[chrome juniper]

yea there are some i guess I can check them all out to see if its what tI need

one sec

[rose jewel]

Can zoom in the map and hover your mouse to read which one is which

[livid fossil]

Just clear all sushire quest and see what happens

[chrome juniper]

those are the purple ones and they are not it

[rose jewel]

@vast oriole all yours, you prob can use loacodex and I'm still working and will be busy for a while

[vast oriole]

https://lostarkcodex.com/us/quest/4050104/ i can only see this

https://lostarkcodex.com/us/achievement/1040061/ do you have this achievement ?

[rose jewel]

But in short I have no idea what happened exactly, it could be you used a pass and forgot

[vast oriole]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MirYFBOSeK4

if he used the powerpas,s he would be able to get it from trixion tho

[chrome juniper]

also nothing

and i never power passed

and 1 awakening skilll

i guess there is no hope for this i mean just have to give up on this character which sucks becaasue I usede the arkesia tour on this character so she has all the skill potions

[vast oriole]

arkesia tour is roster wide

[chrome juniper]

oh is it? then i just have to continue another arcanist

[vast oriole]

i eman a quest doesnt just disappear

did you try relogging

verify files

[chrome juniper]

no i can try that sure

[livid fossil]

G2 mordom solo ✅

[bold geyser]

woooooo

[candid lake]

did u search up awakening?

[chrome juniper]

I just finished verifying files let me check

[candid lake]

also does your mail box have anything?

[chrome juniper]

no i didnt find anything nor anynthing from beaetrice

[candid lake]

so what happens if u search awakening?

[chrome juniper]

i get a bunch of stuff

im not sure which one is which

[candid lake]

any of them

[chrome juniper]

this one is for Gunner

[candid lake]

uhh try fusing magick

[chrome juniper]

yeah it says I completed which I didnt

[candid lake]

and try "the sunset"

[chrome juniper]

o this one is not

[candid lake]

hmm search up following the melody

[chrome juniper]

also no completed

[candid lake]

df

keep pressing the journey button on top

until it says

completed

[candid lake]

ight so that is where u needa

go

[chrome juniper]

alright if this works ty man

[candid lake]

go to kharmines lair

[chrome juniper]

illl let you know how it goes

i did find my wayu

[candid lake]

https://tenor.com/view/fast-cat-cat-excited-jumping-gif-5054843775616689213

[chrome juniper]

aslong as everything else is good and not glitched out it should just lead me to it thx man @candid lake

https://tenor.com/view/yay-up-top-give-me-gif-13840822

[candid lake]

if it happens again search p the sunset and keep pressing the previous quest

until it says u havent completed

[timid cape]

?paradise

[buoyant dock]

Min/Max Guide for Early Elysian & Crucible _

[steel goblet]

Is the server you choose relevant at all?

[rose wren]

?region

[buoyant dock]

Cross Server (Region wide)
Raids, Dungeons, Ebony Cube, Chaos Gates, Auction house, Friends List, Character name, PVP arenas, Strongholds, Adventure Islands, Primal Island

Server Specific
Guilds, Islands, Open world, Life skills (professions)

Nothing is Cross Region

[balmy plank]

Only if you want to be able to see friends face to face. A larger pop server can feel more alive and more social. Even dead servers have strong guilds but a larger pop has more guild options. Any meaningful content is region wide partying

[steel goblet]

thanks

[prime anvil]

what is it refering to when it says yields special matrials when dismantked

for trade tools

[candid lake]

uihh

the thingies to make the restoration

[prime anvil]

TY

[rose wren]

there's preview dismantle, it show u

[hearty kraken]

?advhoning

[buoyant dock]

Optimal Advanced Honing Order
+12 -> 1-10 -> +14 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-40 -> Continue to normal hone.
Calculated with no additional materials (Books & Solars) and full on grace for advanced honing (Scrolls & Solars used on full grace only). Personal costs may vary when using an abundance of these items should you have them. You can estimate your costs using Maxrolls Honing Calculator https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/upgrade-calculator

[craggy crown]

How can I unlink an old account?

I downloaded the game to try to play I am a new player (don't remember playing before) and got this

[bold geyser]

?support

[buoyant dock]

Reminder for our new users, we are NOT affiliated with Amazon nor Smilegate. Please stop asking mods for in game support/help.
Contact customer support: https://help.id.amazongames.com/hc/en-us Create a ticket via the AI Chat button bottom right of the page.

Amazon Official Discord: https://discord.gg/playlostark

https://i.imgur.com/VlNTyma.png

[craggy crown]

Yeah I get that. I don't even remember playing this game... not in my library either... I just now downloaded it and wanted to start playing. I'm not doing all that lol. I guess me just not gonna try it

Is there not a simple way to like start a new account or something?

[balmy plank]

You can either appeal the ban on amazons website. You only get 1 chance. Or you make a new steam account and start over

[craggy crown]

I'll try I guess. I do not even know what to say because I don't remember even playing lost ark before

[timber mauve]

?adv honing

?advhoning

[buoyant dock]

Optimal Advanced Honing Order
+12 -> 1-10 -> +14 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-40 -> Continue to normal hone.
Calculated with no additional materials (Books & Solars) and full on grace for advanced honing (Scrolls & Solars used on full grace only). Personal costs may vary when using an abundance of these items should you have them. You can estimate your costs using Maxrolls Honing Calculator https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/upgrade-calculator

[lone hamlet]

hi guys, i checked on the spearfish boat for bloodclaw fragment for the past 8 hours i dont see him having it i got the old bottles but i dont see the fragments is there a reason why?

[balmy plank]

It has very low odds of being a part of the inventory

There is a global chat in game where people report it being available.

[molten grove]

it means u either got instantly perma banned coz some automated system detected something with u or steam account or someone linked it and got it banned before without ur knowledge.

U can rule out by creating a new steam account, if u dont get perma banned and u used the same PC etc... then its probably that someone linked ur steam account to LA without ur knowledge and got banned before.

[tender flicker]

Click on the yellow chat bubble top left of the screen and type "bloodclaw" to find the global chat

[craggy crown]

Yeah idk the appeal said it was automatically applied by there detection system in lost ark

I don't really want to make a steam account for one game

I will just wait to see what they say I guess but idek if I'll try playing anymore lol

[molten grove]

theres a anti cheat program that may have detected something on ur pc

[craggy crown]

I guess so yeah like idk

Never had this happen with any other arpg or mmo before

[rose jewel]

not the first nor will be the last case someone magically got banned without playing before, aka somehow your account got compromised // used your credentials / email to play (literally to use bots) and after they got beaned they "deleted the evidence"

so yeah really just make a new account, not like its hard

[molten grove]

tbh if u cant be bothered to log into a diff steam account to play LA then theres a high chance LA might be too grindy for u since u gotta do alot of b.s u dont wanna do in LA thats astronomically more tedious/annoying than swapping steam accounts

[craggy crown]

Don't have to be mean they were trying to see what might be going on. I'm being genuine but sure I understand the skepticism

[craggy crown]

Alright I didn't know that

me leave thanks

[noble garden]

?advhoning

[buoyant dock]

Optimal Advanced Honing Order
+12 -> 1-10 -> +14 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-40 -> Continue to normal hone.
Calculated with no additional materials (Books & Solars) and full on grace for advanced honing (Scrolls & Solars used on full grace only). Personal costs may vary when using an abundance of these items should you have them. You can estimate your costs using Maxrolls Honing Calculator https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/upgrade-calculator

[lucid axle]

well its not that grindy if you just do up to solo raids

anything past that though starts getting tedious

[split kayak]

bro left alrd

[livid fossil]

lol

[tough haven]

The ocean liner takes my silver but doesn't move me to a different continent. what am I doing wrong?

[balmy plank]

You sure? M for map, Ocean Liner at the bottom of the map. Then you just pick the dock of any continent you want to visit

[tough haven]

Thanks, I'll relog and try again

[hollow scroll]

if you are actually a new player then don't bother with appealing, write a support ticket instead. the appeal process at https://www.amazongamestudios.com/en-us/support/lost-ark/tools/appeal-a-penalty is really bad and you only get 1 chance.

not that i'd know how to appeal never been banned

[lucid axle]

for those who have been doing NM act 4 what are the odds of relics?

ive done 4 on my alts now and gotten a few legendaries but no relic

[molten grove]

lmao like 0.000001% noone i know has ever gotten 1 from NM

[lucid axle]

guess ill expect nothing and be happy

[molten grove]

i went in expecting epic and legendaries and that was the right mentality :3

the most brutal realization is when u get significantly more epics than legendaries and u find out 1 epic = ONE pity pnt LOL

[ashen shuttle]

does destiny shard at 1700 100% guaranteed drop like the lower gs?

[molten grove]

is that chaos gate?

[ashen shuttle]

yes

[lucid axle]

yeah that shits fucking brutal

they should of made the core selector in the gold shop relic

legendary literally does nothing

[molten grove]

from my hazy as memory i remember always getting it when she was 1700+ and not yet 1720+

[molten grove]

should remove epic cores alltogether u cant run any build with that trash and all it does is ragebait

[ashen shuttle]

the L destiny shard?

[lucid axle]

well true that too is also a thing

epic literally you cant even activate 10p unless you invest a decent amount of lucky

[late wolf]

Hi a stupid question, how to get "Tempering : Alcaone's Eye" for processing level 2 advanced honing?
I am a solo player no this material in Kazeros Overture or Act 1 solo mode, the only way to get is it buying by Clear Medal every week?

[bold geyser]

if its on a character you didn't do the express on, yeah

express char should get a whole bunch for free

[late wolf]

Oh.... I might used it on other character

thanks for the answering

[molten grove]

echi hm

[vivid lagoon]

rage hammer or gravity training?

[midnight nimbus]

In brel g2, how are you supposed to scout 12 circles? Because that's what it seems you have to do nowadays.

I scouted 6 but apparently the other 7 people can't scout the other half

[lucid axle]

GT i think

[vivid lagoon]

ty

[minor briar]

RH pre ark grid, GT post

[minor briar]

u do everyone out, x3+1

if they dont do the mech, u aint passing the raid so..

tell them to be ethical

[midnight nimbus]

They didn't do the mech. Instead, they ignore pings on where to stand. And then they stand on a dangerping.

[minor briar]

jail group ig

[midnight nimbus]

In order to warn the community, can I post their names here? Or report them somehow?

[minor briar]

the entire group?

LOL

did u join a reclear or not

[midnight nimbus]

hw lobby

[minor briar]

do they not want to clear?

[midnight nimbus]

apparently not. the group vote quit after 6 wipes to the same mech

[minor briar]

how long was ur g1 clear?

will tell if the group was sussy or intentionally jailing g2 for watever reason

[strange viper]

staying for 6 wipes is quite remarkable... usually ppl throw a hissyfit after 1 mistake

[dim pulsar]

nah intentional jail party will "try" to clear and fail for another 15-30min just to "try" and waste ur time and jail u

they surely had 1 bozo in g2 that was jailed and they intentionally jailed this group to unjail friend

[strange viper]

Oh yeah for sure that could be true too.. But usually its only one person doing the trolling

I find it hard to believe theres entire groups of people who intentially want to waste one person's time

[dim pulsar]

if its more than 3 ppl its premade to "jail" current bozos and "help" their friend

[minor briar]

i feel like that doesnt happen a lot

[dim pulsar]

nothing new, at akkan times it was soo common to do it

[minor briar]

but also. u would need to fill a g2 lobby

if its like premade 6 or 7, that would make sense

but 3+? idk

[midnight nimbus]

when I joined, there were only 2 people in the lobby.

[dim pulsar]

but u didnt answer first, g1 was quick smooth?

[strange viper]

Anyway Im all for naming and shaming you should do it. But I dont think this is the correct channel for it and I dont know if we have a public shaming post somewhere.

[midnight nimbus]

g1 took two pulls. I should've left after the first wipe. after running up the bridge, the pally chased me when we both had targets on our heads.

g1 clear was 8min

[minor briar]

on the slower side tbh

[midnight nimbus]

so no, it wasn't quick or smooth

[minor briar]

thats why its nice to have meter, can see whos sus

[minor briar]

its called the in game block list, now expanded to 200 slots for ur convenience

[strange viper]

did they actually increase it to 200?

[minor briar]

ye for the merge

100 more bozos to block for either region

[midnight nimbus]

1730 Arcana pulling 50m udps

[dim pulsar]

thats intentionall troll

[midnight nimbus]

Maybe they were intentionally trolling. Maybe they mysteriously got a new computer and started playing from a different country, forgot how to do mechs, forgot how to play his class, and lost the ability to speak English. Who knows?

Not that I'm insinuating anything here, tho

[minor briar]

or its his lil bro playing

[versed tulip]

hey guys i'm looking for players to help for akkan hard to get the achivement card pack

[minor briar]

might have better luck in achi discord #lost-ark-discussions message

[versed tulip]

ty

[lucid axle]

is this like atro?

[ocean nacelle]

Is there any way to skip Brelshaza and Akkan to powerpass for cheaper powerpass or i need weeks of farming to not pay 60$ ?

[marble shell]

No other way, wait for feb pass and eventually every new character will be 1580 as well

[ocean nacelle]

Need a new char atm, thanks.

[lucid axle]

odds express event will help hone till 1710?

[ocean nacelle]

Used it on my main char (came back after 2y) and now i am looking for an alt cuz i get stucked by a gold

[marble shell]

yeahh same situation the time gating is insane

[lucid axle]

what ilvl are you guys?

[ocean nacelle]

1672 on my main

[lucid axle]

youll hit a gold wall but usually its only another week or two before you can do a new raid

[ocean nacelle]

ye i have a ton of mats but i cant use them cuz i dont have gold

[marble shell]

pre 1680 was annoying but once i got past that its not too bad with a lucky hell key

im 1695 on my main rn

[lucid axle]

yeah do hells and your 3 raids and youll only need to wait a week maybe 2 just to do a new raid

unless you like alts

for those who are new id recommended not to push 1700 yet

gatekeeping is hell

espically for low rosters

theres a few systems you can work on before pushing 1700

because if you are undergeared you wont even be let into raids doesnt matter new or experienced

[marble shell]

yeah i didnt know what i was doing then i read that its suicide if i go past 1700

[jaunty igloo]

if you buy the chests in t4 raids do you get more dynasty stones ?

[lucid axle]

yeah itll kill your whole vibe for the game

[jaunty igloo]

go whenever you feel ready

[lucid axle]

id recommend getting your main to 1600 CP before pushing further

should be well geared enough to do act 4

[jaunty igloo]

when you feel like you don’t need koko status no more go past it

[lucid axle]

issue is then gatekeeping though

[jaunty igloo]

but try to max your karmas first

[lucid axle]

yeah maxing enlightment and leap before so

[marble shell]

im close to getting max enlightment but still got leap. Slow progression is fine cuz the combat is still worth it but wish i could play more but it is what it is

[lucid axle]

evo not as much

if you dont mind playing more as in playing with alt characters then its there but yeah issue is rn t3 still costs gold

[marble shell]

yeah gotta wait until i can make more

btw how much does ark grid change your build once u unlock it, i play slayer so i tried to look ahead and i see there is a build where you just play 3 skills like what

[lucid axle]

dont think so

[jaunty igloo]

ic

[lucid axle]

depends on class some are build changing some are just QOL

[jaunty igloo]

was just wondering if i’m missing out on any

bevause i don’t buy them

[jaunty igloo]

yeah the damage is insane

[lucid axle]

for pred slayer yes

[marble shell]

nahhhhhhhh

idk if ill enjoy that on pred 🤣

[jaunty igloo]

probably forever will atp lmao

[lucid axle]

its BIS but i believe the other options are still playable?

not a 100% on that though

and ark grid is a pain because its all rng

you dont craft the cores you want

the boss drops them at random

[jaunty igloo]

the supports were also juicers

this was only a behemoth

it would do way more in a actual raid

[marble shell]

hmmmmmm thats tough

[lucid axle]

yes and everyone hates it

at least NA

not sure about KR

[marble shell]

[lucid axle]

but ik they are not crazy about it too

[jaunty igloo]

kr doesn’t mind it

[lucid axle]

so honestly earlier the better since RNG but dont expect to get what you want

because most likely you are not

i have yet to get a proper one (aka relic) in NM since they released

[marble shell]

damnnnnnnnnnnn

[lucid axle]

though wasnt that much

i believe so far ive done 6 NM runs

[jaunty igloo]

they have the principle of making everything smooth

[lucid axle]

anything under relic rarity only is small dmg increases

[jaunty igloo]

so they don’t mind taking time to be over geared

where as we just want everything done no matter cp and ilvl

😂😂😂

[lucid axle]

issue is i want to play the other builds

but i just cant

im forced to play what i get

[marble shell]

yeahhhh thats very unhealthy

[lucid axle]

idrc about being overgeared i just want to "unlock" that new play style

dont care so much about the dmg

at some point itll change

but dont expect anything in a year in terms of RNG

they might change the rates but itll still be drops for a long while

[jaunty igloo]

if the game survives

🙏🙏

[marsh grove]

you get 12 core drops per week if you buy chests and are doing NM

pity builds up pretty fast even on NM

[lucid axle]

thats if 1710

getting to 1710 for a new player is pretty rough

1700 alone is fine since express

[marsh grove]

why would a new player be expecting to be getting fast ark grid progress as a new player anyways,

and why would a 1700 who is at the bare minimum for even starting ark grid expect to be able to do it quickly?

they just released kaz, if people could easily finish their builds in like a month or 2 then that's horrible for their retention (imo)

[lucid axle]

im not expecting to get it quickly im expecting to build to what i want

[jaunty igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/ocean-park-roy-chiken-chicken-rooster-gif-12055150029534145737

[marsh grove]

selector box we just got + legendary from gold shop lets you enable destiny for any core you want, no? if we're talking about new/returning players with only 1 high char

[lucid axle]

some builds require more than 1 relic

destiny activation core ig can stay leg but some classes need that other core to be relic to do similar or more dmg to post ark grid

[marsh grove]

more dmg is great but why be worried about it for 1700/1710 raids? dps requirement is like

unbelievably low

getting more dmg is a nice bonus is all

all really comes back to the fact that lost ark isnt a game you can grind

you either wait or pay

for most stuff

[split kayak]

armoche is that easy?

[lucid axle]

actually not relic

seems like one is enough

but im not talking about doing more dmg

some just need it to do same dmg

espically the gimmicky ones

[split kayak]

what's the cp for armoche tho? like 2k?

[marsh grove]

less

[lucid axle]

NM clearing with 1700 rn

and its a breeze

no cores really

just working off astrogems

[split kayak]

are you able to get relic cores

[lucid axle]

yeah

[split kayak]

oh wow

[lucid axle]

epic - ancient

[split kayak]

quite neat eh

i've been keeping koko since ever

[marsh grove]

I mean, if you're aiming to clear TFM or have a goal where you NEED a lot more damage then sure I guess

[lucid axle]

dont expect anything above relic though its rare

gonna take a few runs till you see one

[marsh grove]

my main chars are 1720 now and I still don't really fk with cores

not even necessary yet

[lucid axle]

but the gimmicky builds need the relic core most of the time

otherwise they dont work

[marsh grove]

but like

any char can do decent dmg even without them

idk why you keep u sing the word

need

[lucid axle]

if your goal is to just clear

its fine whatever

but if you saw that gimmicky build and thought it was cool

and wanted to try it out

gl

because most likely not happening for a bit

looking at least the gimmick build for PS SH

seems like you can work with 1 relic 2 leg

but you still need those specific leg ones

otherwise you’ll just be doing less than before

[split kayak]

what's the diff between leg/relic/ancient? higher grade more points?

the 14p/17p/20p thingy?

[lucid axle]

allows for you more “space” for astrogems and between epic and relic each rarity allows that core to do 1 more thing

relic to ancient though is just a small buff and allows more points

[lucid axle]

epic only has 10P
leg has 10P and 14P
relic-ancient has 10P 14P 17P 18P 19P 20P

some builds need the 17p for the build to function but some are just dmg increases

standard will always work though

just the gimmicky ones will require them usually

[split kayak]

was considering to break koko cus arkgrid looks fun

but heard the rng worse than elixir cutting

[lucid axle]

it is

with the relic core selector you’ll pretty much be able to instantly access the fun part unless you want to try one of the gimmicky builds

well not instantly

you still need to get the astrogems for the 17P

[marsh grove]

if your cp/roster/title is good enough 1700 is a good place to be

[lucid axle]

but otherwise not to hard just can be a lot of gold

[marsh grove]

act 4 is fun and expert shop has a lot of good items

if losing mokoko status means you're gonna be hard gatekept cause you're super weak or no title then its not worth tho

[lucid axle]

yeah make sure your at least geared enough

[split kayak]

yeah, i havent done my karmas, only enlighten

[lucid axle]

otherwise you’ll just never be accepted

[timid cape]

What CP do you recommend to be at, then ?

[lucid axle]

yeah once you have lvl 5 in enlightenment and lvl 6 in leap id say you don’t need to wait anymore

1600 CP i’d recommend

[marsh grove]

overall CP is more important than karma levels

[lucid axle]

but lower is ok

just not to much lower

well karma does a lot for your CP lol

[split kayak]

https://uwuowo.mathi.moe/character/NA/Archaein
what could i improve other than karma and hone?

[lucid axle]

oh ur more then geared lol

[marsh grove]

with AH 30 on weapon you'll be in a good spot at 1700 yeah

just title is all

[lucid axle]

karma would still be nice to finish though

[timid cape]

I'd say you can buy mp efficiency increase in relic since its cheap

[lucid axle]

could max MPE if you feel like it too

think it’s like 160k if i recall correctly

but it isn’t a prio

just something to work on

[split kayak]

arent ppl usually buy books that shares with entire roster

[lucid axle]

roster 202 ur fine too

yeah it’s more efficient

do you plan to build a big roster?

[timid cape]

yes but since its cheap its ok to buy it even for 1 char, its like buying 1-2 lv7 gems

[lucid axle]

160k is still quite the investment for one character though

for like 3% more dmg

[split kayak]

ig karma first, see books later

[lucid axle]

which is why most ppl buy books based off of roster

[lucid axle]

do you have the title for mordum?

[timid cape]

Sure, if you have only 1 char using it i agree

[lucid axle]

yeah if you have a roster where a few of the classes can use them go for it

[split kayak]

do i able to get it from doing solos?

[lucid axle]

yeah

but it’s 10 clears for title

[split kayak]

ah i only have 2 chars that can mordum

[lucid axle]

check through achievements

there should be a raid tab

otherwise you’re more than ready to lose mokoko status

things to work on next outside of honing would be finishing off your leap you have the gear

[split kayak]

aight, will finish leap, thanks a lot

[lucid axle]

MPE if you aren’t pushing anyone soon

[split kayak]

i use mpe on 3 chars

[lucid axle]

ok that’s enough of a reason than

[split kayak]

grudge basically on everyone, but ye, very expensive

adren too

[lucid axle]

yeah those will cost you quite a bit

[marsh grove]

I'd consider AH 30 on weapon, too. especially if you have fusion. I always do AH 30 on wep before or to hit 1700.

[lucid axle]

AH past 20 though is quite expensive

[marsh grove]

123k full on grace

[lucid axle]

but yeah worth

[marsh grove]

for more CP than mpe

[split kayak]

was the AH nerf for 1-40?

[marsh grove]

though yeah mpe is very worth if u have 3 chars like u say

1-20 only

[split kayak]

oh

[lucid axle]

not sure the CP gain honestly for 21-30

[ocean nacelle]

Phantom Beast or Ferality as a new player is easier? I want to clear all Legion Raids one by one solo

[lucid axle]

i want to push my alts to 1710 for more cores but it’s just so expensive

[lucid axle]

phantom

very high floor and good ceiling

[marsh grove]

if you're honing a char normally then you'll run into multiple timegates

[timid cape]

I suppose kazeros nm have alot of gatekeep there right?

[marsh grove]

and if you're going in over ilvl by a good amount then the bosses won't be much of a challenge

[marsh grove]

a lot more than act 4 nm, yeah

people get up in their butts about not having hard mode title

for kaz

[ocean nacelle]

I assume but which one is easier to play 🙂

[lucid axle]

NM not so much as long as your character is geared and you don’t look new

[marsh grove]

I constanly get rejected from normal lobbies as a 2.2k cp valk

with fine gear and normal mode title

[lucid axle]

anything HM ppl kinda only want title though

[marsh grove]

just cause I dont have HM title

[lucid axle]

hmm interesting

haven’t done NM on alts so idk

[marsh grove]

I'm sure people have different experiences but

after the first few weeks that's been my experience

[lucid axle]

i’d imagine not that bad but ig not

[timid cape]

Create your own lobby with "nm title" i guess

[marsh grove]

yeah I mean I end up figuring it out each week but

thats like the only gatekeep I really run into

and its annoying

cause kaz NM is simple

and dps req is low there too

[lucid axle]

yeah gatekeeping on title imo is stupid

[timid cape]

It always have been

[lucid axle]

as long as ur geared and know the mech it’s fine by me

my alts are 1700 CP though and getting into act parties pretty fine

though i do have 3-4 week title for it

so that’s been a big help

[marsh grove]

yeah that's huge even for act 4

although 1700 is def fine for 1700ilvl

I came back around valk release

didnt have enough shards to hit 1720 in time to do HM before titles were gone

😭

[lucid axle]

yup it’s rough without titles

i feel like once they add the t3 change the only thing holding this game back is the raid experience

[marsh grove]

im praying for new titles in april

cause ill actually be able to hit 1730 by then

[lucid axle]

telling new players they can’t try new raids because they don’t have title is stupid

anything mordum and below should be fine as long as your like roster 170+

with title of course

roster lvl matter less

[marsh grove]

my 1680 raids have been full of terrorists ever since the powerpass + express

[split kayak]

hard to find learning party too

[lucid axle]

most of my alts outgear the mokokos so i’m chilling though sometimes i run into the ones that push to fast

[marsh grove]

like these people look normal

with normal CP

and mord title

and yet they play like that

barely ever ran into this before the pp+ express idk

[marsh grove]

solo modes help a lot with learning normal boss attk patterns tbh

[timid cape]

xD

[marsh grove]

it'll become second nature

[lucid axle]

discord severs mostly

[marsh grove]

mech is a different story

[timid cape]

Sometimes supports are really really bad too

[lucid axle]

an example i helped this group once

https://discord.com/channels/212635560596996097/1408184673271812096

accidentally joined there learning party because i was just looking for any party to join

[marble shell]

[lucid axle]

but ppl post there learning party discords in there sometimes i believe so always can check around

[split kayak]

yeah im in mkoko server, and there's no brel/mordum learning 😂

[lucid axle]

jesus under 100M is kinda already criminal but god damn

[marsh grove]

I'm the red player btw

idk the pumper

I got jailed 3 times this week

[lucid axle]

is there not a request channel?

[marsh grove]

cause of normal looking absolute zdps clueless players

this week

on my 1680s*

1700 and 1710 raids were fine

[lucid axle]

only once but i got out had to swap to sup valk though

first time in mord was pretty rough lol

think i was 84/98/40/30 or something

[marble shell]

i seen alot of people complain about mordum in all regions tbh

idk whats so special about it

[split kayak]

no

[timid cape]

as Fate said, solo mode are great to learn 50%+ of the raid, some important mechanic are removed tho so you might check it on video guides like memorizer, but you should be fine after few trains on solo mod

[lucid axle]

it’s where the mokokos are all at

and mordum can be hard if you don’t know the raid

[marsh grove]

as a returning player I got smacked a lot on brel and mord for the longest time cause the boss attk patterns were hard to get used to

but with solo modes and telegraphs it makes it so clear

quick to learn

yeye

[timid cape]

same, i struggled alot on mordum before solo mode, basic patterns was annoying

[lucid axle]

i’d just say do solo if you aren’t doing HM

really no point unless you start to feel you aren’t getting knocked on the floor a lot

than you can try

[marsh grove]

now that AH mats are in the solo shop I dont fk with HM mord anymore

would rather go brel HM or something if I need the gold

fk HM mord

[lucid axle]

[marsh grove]

annoying to run

[lucid axle]

yeah had one bad experience with my alt and now reconsidering

i had 1 new player can’t imagine having more who don’t know the raid at all

[timid cape]

this raid is yet annoying in nm, don't imagine in hm lmao

[lucid axle]

just don’t die or blow up in our face how hard is that

with solo experience it stay alive should be easy

it’s just mechs that are usually the issue for new players

[marsh grove]

im fully enjoying the solo modes up to 1680 rn

[lucid axle]

i can ignore the low dmg

[marsh grove]

easy to grab my gold and get out

I'm dreading the gold nerf

[lucid axle]

yeah ngl idk why i pushing my alts

it’s horribly inefficient gold wise for me

[marsh grove]

nah, 1710 (or just 1700 for now) is like THE future parking spot so

[timid cape]

Its pretty sad they removed some core mechanics, with no ability to train them with a on/off option

[marsh grove]

it's worth it

no worries

[timid cape]

in solo

[lucid axle]

spending like 160k to make 6k more gold a week

[timid cape]

Serka nm will be 1710

[marsh grove]

yep

1710 for act 4 + kaz + new raid

hit it now and start getting pity and astros

and ur solid

[timid cape]

You run kz nm, amoche and serka, fk mordum

[marsh grove]

act 4 is so freeee

[lucid axle]

my mains just parked at 1730 since there’s no point in pushing

[marsh grove]

been back for 4 months now

one day ill actually be strong > . >

[lucid axle]

my mains ass

[timid cape]

whats your roster fate?

[lucid axle]

DI

just look at how they preforms in kaz

[marsh grove]

playing multiple atm, but they're all at like 1720 main + 1700 current event char + 4 1680s

[lucid axle]

low floor and ass for HW

[marble shell]

whats the newest raid's entry ilevel going to be

[lucid axle]

for NM 1710

[timid cape]

Nice

[marsh grove]

when I came back I made multiple cause the game gates you so hard

and I wanted to play m ore

instead of just 1 char on 1 roster a week

when I play games I like to no-life them

[split kayak]

pushing all to 1680 tho

[timid cape]

I get it, I've done same basically

[split kayak]

daym

[marsh grove]

it's not that bad with a long time of paradise

and I kind of cheated with the cheap honing to 1520 then skip to 1580 with 1100 crystals powerpass

which apparently isnt available anymore

skip the month timegate + get 2/2 ability stone + level 60 and other stuff

[lucid axle]

1690 is pretty chill to push especially with paradise

[timid cape]

I've started a new char three weeks ago for the next powerpass, this way I already started farming paradise (only this week, need 2 weeks to reach 1580 from 0)

AH scrolls are really cheap atm

[lucid axle]

i’d say get a roster to 1660 before pushing them though if you want to maximize gold gain for them

[marsh grove]

whatchu mean by 2 weeks?

0 to 1580 is like 3 months lol

[timid cape]

Not at all

[marsh grove]

it's literally time-gated

on weekly raid mats

[split kayak]

with bounds?

[marsh grove]

unless u can get there in brel gear

[steel goblet]

with the event took me a day from 1250 - 1520

probs have enough if i had gold to get to 1580

[lucid axle]

ye can push with bound mats pretty easily it’s just t3 honing sucks rn

[marsh grove]

are we talking about different things?

[lucid axle]

i’ve never used gold on mats since paradised released for my alts

[timid cape]

First week you can be 1490, depending on the bi-weekly reset for brel you can be fully geared in 2 weeks, once you are fully brel gear you can reach 1580 which is paradise ilvl

[lucid axle]

and i think it’s been 1660-1700 for most of them

and a lot of are still sitting on 3-5k abidos

[timid cape]

But you need some golds and mats in stock, if you skip stories and buy some orehas on market, and some stones

[marsh grove]

could have sworn brel was 3 weeks worth of lockouts, not 2

but yeah I feel you, if you don't include akkan timegate

[timid cape]

You don't need Akkan

[split kayak]

ah my chars are 1640 but 0 fusion

[lucid axle]

akkan is bad lol

[split kayak]

cant exactly push to 1660

[lucid axle]

took my alts forever

[lucid axle]

wait on paradise if you do it on them

[timid cape]

If you wanna farm paradise you need to reach 1580 and finish north kurzan. I don't think its worth pushing 1620 since it cost quite some golds

[marsh grove]

wait, why are you doing that again?

we get another PP + event in february

[lucid axle]

there’s almost never been 2 weeks of no free taps/fusion mats

[split kayak]

yeah i do but just no luck dropping fusion box

[timid cape]

Preparing my char for february pass, this way I have enough mats, especially shards, to rush 1700 with it

From paradise boxes

[lucid axle]

only reason to do paradise before t4 is AH mats and gold

quality too ig

[marsh grove]

🤔

[lucid axle]

rest don’t do anything really

[marsh grove]

doesn't our season end in like

march?

u won't get any more boxes by starting early

overall

[lucid axle]

shards in t3 give only t3 shards

[timid cape]

You get T4 mats boxes every crucible levels, lvl9 gives 400k shards

[marsh grove]

lvl 9 isnt 400k shards

[timid cape]

You pick T4 or T3 even in T3

[lucid axle]

oh didn’t know that

[marsh grove]

each box is like 50k sshards

for t4

[timid cape]

the 9 boxes gives 400k, i checked yesterday

[lucid axle]

oh wait do you mean from paradise bosses?

[timid cape]

yeah

[lucid axle]

hell keys are all t3 stuff

[lucid axle]

think they meant from lvl 1 boss to lvl 9 together

not hell keys

[marsh grove]

yeah I know hes talking about crucible but

[ocean nacelle]

Wen hype awakening technique (T) unlocks, at t4??

[timid cape]

unfortunately yes

[marsh grove]

it sounded like he said the level 9 box gives 400k shards

so ima go check now

[lucid axle]

NPC

it unlocks after 1580

[ocean nacelle]

Thanks

[marsh grove]

yeah level 9 box is normal

56k shards

and either way with PP you can just get all those boxes anyways

unless your RNG is shit u can just keep using tickets u get

and push high crucible week 1

[lucid axle]

in total he meant i think

[timid cape]

@marsh grove

[marsh grove]

or use roster bound ones

[lucid axle]

yeah express gives you all the mats you need

[marsh grove]

I just don't understand starting early when you're getting the same boxes eventually anyways

possibly even week 1

if u dont start early

[lucid axle]

only when you push past the completion of the event is where you get starved

[marsh grove]

the char I made with this express hit the current floor of crucible week 1

and I wasnt pooling tickets

the only thing you're really gaining by starting early is possible char bound gold or AH scrolls like picka said

[marsh grove]

but bro you can just get those

on a fresh char

in feb

it'll still be season 2

[timid cape]

That's why I've done it now

I'm NOT* gonna make the new class

[marsh grove]

yeah, but why bother honing and spending gold to hit 1580

when u can just get those boxes

[lucid axle]

either way it kinda makes no difference

[marsh grove]

later?

its the same boxes

[lucid axle]

oh well yeah

do you plan to powerpass that character too?

[timid cape]

Well, paradise is timegated by weeks, not days

[timid cape]

What char ?

[marsh grove]

which goes back to my point of u can just use tickets and/or pool roster bound ones to hit the max floor week 1

[lucid axle]

with gold honing in t3 gone i’d recommend just honing them regularly at that point don’t power pass them

[marsh grove]

but I understand what you're thinking

[marsh grove]

he made a char early and honed to 1580 to get the paradise crucible boxes early 🤔

sounds like hes gonna use PP and express on it

[timid cape]

I have no more character to powerpass haha

[lucid axle]

if u power pass another character and just hone the 1580 then i see a point

[timid cape]

It didnt cost me that much to push it anyway

[lucid axle]

1640 though?

[timid cape]

Most expensive was skipping stories

[lucid axle]

ig you can always do it on another

[marsh grove]

hopefully you can hit gold from paradise in january and february to recoup some of your cost

:p

[timid cape]

Exactly

Or some chaos stone or stuff like this

[lucid axle]

idk there isn’t really a point in doing it early as so far the express event have been pretty generous with rewards now

in the past sometimes they short you on mats

but it hasn’t been like that in a while

[timid cape]

Well hell can give some golds haha, but I calculated you need 500k shards from the current pass, to reach 1700

Paradise give you actually 400k

[lucid axle]

unless you push past the express events rewards than you’ll be short

and express event will give you like 800k most likely lol

how much did this event give?

[marsh grove]

yeah I mean more shards is good to have if u wanna push fast. it's likely only saving you 1 week at best of paradise progress though is all

[lucid axle]

idk i wasn’t starved on shards on my alt roster

[untold elbow]

the new year island, do I have to do it with my main or any char on the island is fine

[marsh grove]

any

tis all roster bound

[timid cape]

I mean, rushing day 1 1700

Need some shards haha

[marsh grove]

yeah, if you just save a few roster bound elysian tickets u can likely finish ALL crucible floors week 1

on a NEW char

[lucid axle]

yeah event usually provides more than enough

issue is sometimes your short on gold

usually you need a little more gold than the event gives

[timid cape]

Well, you can see on my screenshot shards are missing

[lucid axle]

but mats i was never short on

[timid cape]

Destruction stones too, I lacked alot of them