lost-ark-help

[static jungle]

im really confused about gear and gemstones and and bracelets still tbh

[vast oriole]

to give you an idea

[static jungle]

oh damn

i think i have a 7 from cubes, should i sell it D:

[vast oriole]

i would

lvl 7 t3 or t4 tho

[static jungle]

4

oh and nvm its 2 6s.

not a 7 yet.

might be a good idea selling and getting the cheap 7s tho hm

are these events a permanent thing?

like is there always an event going?

[vast oriole]

yeah thsoe are permanent

[static jungle]

awesome (:

[vast oriole]

so if you get char bound gold from hell, you know what to do

whats your ilvl again

[static jungle]

1690.83 atm

[strange viper]

Definitely should sell the gems you get from cube, but you cant use that gold to then buy the 7s from solo shop, it uses bound gold instead.

[static jungle]

oh is ee.

[vast oriole]

it uses any gold

[strange viper]

Also gems are funny, a month ago they used to sell for like 140-150k and now theyre like what 115k? for level 7s... this might change again once they nuke the gems we get from chaos dungeons.. 🤷‍♂️

[vast oriole]

just prio bound gold

we get those gems in guardians

so idk

if it will change a lot

[static jungle]

i have 10k bound gold on an alt i never play somehow. can i use that for anything useful for my main?

[vast oriole]

if its char bound gold, no

if its roster, yes

[strange viper]

ye but my rats aint gonna be doing high level guardians, so theyre not gonna be generating free gems anymore.

[static jungle]

i think its character bound

[strange viper]

and i think there are many like me

[static jungle]

no clue how i even got it

[vast oriole]

argeos is enough

it will be same generation than lvl 1 kurzan front

[strange viper]

but is it tho? i wouldnt even do argeos on my 1640s, not even on some of my 1660-1680s right now.. maybe that will change with the update.

Or are they nerfing the guardians at the same time

[vast oriole]

guardians get giga nerfed with the update

and what changed is the unbound mats

not the gems generation

[strange viper]

gonna have to see how big the nerf is i suppose.. not gonna be doomer about it.. yet.

[vast oriole]

i mean the change is shitty

for sure

for people like me that hate guardians

[strange viper]

there are many like us

[vast oriole]

but you can see memo's videos about it

people can solo it very easily

just annoying on low chars

[strange viper]

i have like 12 characters in t4 that i play, but i do veskal on most of them cos thats relatively easy and gets me about the same amount of income still (somehow i dont even know why)

[vast oriole]

but at least now they do more dmg since trans and elixirs got reworked

[strange viper]

i absolutely hate the t4 guardians right now and if they wanna make me do them on all of my characters they gonna have to nerf them by like 75-90%

[vast oriole]

i dont think the nerf is that much

but its still big

[strange viper]

does kr have this change yet? or nah

[vast oriole]

yes

[strange viper]

so there should be data somewhere how big the nerfs were to guardians like argeos or the scorpion whose name i cant remember

[vast oriole]

yes

[strange viper]

on our version the scorpion has like 32b health

[vast oriole]

but im too lazy to search for it

[bold geyser]

oh are guardians getting nerfed?

[vast oriole]

yes

[bold geyser]

sec

...no idea 😄 just says adjusted

[static jungle]

is it ever worth it doing lifeskills stuff in tier 3 zones? does that dungeon for lifeskilling still exist?

[vast oriole]

no and no

[static jungle]

even if u see a random t3 epic plant?

[strange viper]

even our unholy ai overlord grok couldnt tell me how much their hp got nerfed.. i better go learn korean and start digging trough inven or something

[outer mason]

Platinum Fields 🧓

[static jungle]

i loved it!

[vast oriole]

well they cant know since they dont have dpsmeter that displays hp xD

unless they said the % nerf in patchnotes

[static jungle]

i was looking for an apm list for classes, does this look about right to you all? not sure how accurate it is https://preview.redd.it/t5ru3su7jmkf1.jpeg?width=604&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80a73467b6c8855517b7122c39a3368a3981d5f6

[bold geyser]

inven is under maint, i think?

[strange viper]

oh is that why everything redirects me to their mainpage with a time for 10:00 or something...

[vast oriole]

its 6:43am for them

so yeah

XD

[runic solar]

Tmr is an update or regular?

[strange viper]

just a regular mt

[livid fossil]

Just maintenance

[outer mason]

yeah it's alright
though APM doesn't necessarily correlate 100% with class difficulty

[static jungle]

hmm

[candid lake]

ye for example hunger is just spam buttons 😄

jkjk it has more of a priority rotation

but u just press em

[static jungle]

nice 😄

[livid fossil]

I thought surge db was dead 💀

[outer mason]

damn surge isn't looking too good lately

[livid fossil]

Hanging on by a thread

[bold geyser]

see that sucks cause everybody switched to my RE and now it's gonna get nerfed 😭

[vast oriole]

its been like this sicne t4 release

re is the lovechild of the director

never gets nerfed

[bold geyser]

yessssssss

[livid fossil]

Been re since game came out lol

[graceful dragon]

How does one even nerf RE — I’m being so serious here

I agree its OP in the upper echelon but 90% of the players never get there

It’s pretty mediocre (lowkey kinda ass imo) in your avg. players hands

[vast oriole]

thats whay it doesnt get nerfed

[graceful dragon]

The damage per skill is so shit on RE lol

[vast oriole]

idk if theres a way to nerf the ceilling but boost the floor

[graceful dragon]

Yeah that’s basically my question, not directed at you necessarily

But it seems like a near impossible task

[lavish mortar]

Increase surge dmg while lowering max possible cpm by lowering meter gen of the skills currently used and buffing meter gen of slower to use skills

Cuz sone people only manage like 3cpm on surge they need all the help they can get

[livid fossil]

Cpm?

[plain sorrel]

RE is such a not easy class, i just keep her for fun and fashion , most of the easy chill class i play can do more damage with way less effort, also DB solo guardian raid also suck cuz mana issue

[outer mason]

clicks per minute

[lavish mortar]

Casts per minute

[outer mason]

close enough

[livid fossil]

mana is problem for me some reason I seem to sit sometimes

[lavish mortar]

Mana food

[plain sorrel]

That class need to run with sup and crit sync

[livid fossil]

Man i gonna have to add azena on db and my Valkyrie

[lavish mortar]

Wouldnt hurt lol

[livid fossil]

I had it valk but it ran out I was wondering why my skills were grey

Why you dmg button

[plain sorrel]

Valk is also a mana hungry class, however if it is just for side content just slap in mp efficiency and run mana Ark Passive to save money

[livid fossil]

It’s my main main now

So it might just be azena thing

[plain sorrel]

Lol i forgot about the food buff benefit from Azena Blessing , not bad to slap on a char tbh

[faint cedar]

That’s most high apm classes

But yeah especially the ones that don’t take mpe lol

My swift ss is my biggest mana hog rn

[amber hound]

could i get heko with this event later ? i need the high sea coins so i could buy that bloodclaw chart?

[livid fossil]

Is the t4,pack better than buying azena out right

[rose wren]

thats a adventure island, they run every couple hours or so, weekday last run is at 9pm, no1 is able to go solo, so if people dont turnup, no1 gets in, have to gather people

[plain sorrel]

To be fair reflux sorx and GS is also quite high apm, but they are a lot easier to play, it is just the whole rotation ,build meter + back atk make RE is very unfriendly for people like me just want to have some chill time

[faint cedar]

tbf if you want chill time you go for the hitmasters

but igwym

[plain sorrel]

Predator Slayer and Perfect Suppression are not that bad, both are back atk favor

[livid fossil]

You could just go reaper and have real bad time

[faint cedar]

on standard all you really have to do is T before you surge bc of CD reduction and fit your SA VS in your mael window

[plain sorrel]

I had a reaper before, i deleted her

[livid fossil]

lol

[faint cedar]

mael + SA VS = 3 orbs

it only gets complicated when you miss or the boss cuts one of those skills short

[plain sorrel]

Yeah i know that, but the class still need quite more effort, too bad she is probably the coolest class in the game

[livid fossil]

Or you go through the boss

[faint cedar]

mmm its a comfortability thing tbh, just means ur not comfortable enough on it

[livid fossil]

0 dmg

[candid lake]

on my RE db

the only comfortable raid is mordum g3

[plain sorrel]

The issue is always the ceiling, there was a point after the RE rework, there is a non posional RE build that do as much damage as other class and they had to nerf it quickly

[rose wren]

subjective

[plain sorrel]

What looks cooler than Blade ?

[livid fossil]

Arcanist

[candid lake]

i mean it depends on what u define as your cool fantasy

[livid fossil]

[faint cedar]

if youre struggling on standard RE dont try 8 dmg makes standard look like childs play

[plain sorrel]

I would say a summoner looks cooler than a card dealer

[faint cedar]

much higher ceiling

[rose wren]

many people into slayer, 4massive mountains ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[candid lake]

i mean SE kinda cool with all the grim reapers and shit

[faint cedar]

db is like the least assassiny assassin

[plain sorrel]

Lol like i said i just keep the blade for fun and fashion and run some easy stuff here and there, that 8 dmg build is too much

[plain sorrel]

Skill animation wise , Blade still look flashier than both Slayer and Valk imo

[faint cedar]

you like what you like

cant expect everyone to have the same opinion; ie subjective

[rose wren]

summ/aero

[amber hound]

love the valk sound effects

[plain sorrel]

You mean the sound of the skill or the sound when she moan while doing the skill

[livid fossil]

lol

[plain sorrel]

I actually like the later on Valk

[subtle patio]

what do you need behemoths scale for?

[balmy plank]

These days I think nothing

You can exchange them for stuff like mats

[faint cedar]

juice pouches mostly

[prime anvil]

anyone know the odds of getting the blood claw shard out of the bottle

[rose wren]

maybe 5%

[prime anvil]

dang i got muged

[static jungle]

hm is there an autorun default key in this game?

[livid fossil]

Caps lock

[static jungle]

ohh nice ty

[subtle patio]

do people still do primal island events?

[rose wren]

nope, abuser ruin it

[safe patrol]

wat is that thing?

[plain sorrel]

Sort of like a team pvp island or something like that, people then team up to kill other people

And took the reward

[safe patrol]

how do u get the cloth?

[plain sorrel]

Dismantle skin

[safe patrol]

the yellow cloth

any skin?

and how u get the jar?

[plain sorrel]

Tradable

[safe patrol]

[plain sorrel]

F4 shop

[safe patrol]

that skin box if i dismantle i can get the cloth ?

[rose wren]

wrong, its battle royale mode

[plain sorrel]

I don't rmb exactly, just rmb people complaining about team up against the loner

[safe patrol]

ah ye

[foggy venture]

I am getting a black screen during character select. This happened after i changed the in-game scenery. The game runs fine but its just the character select that seems bugged.I have uninstialled and reinstalled both Steam and Lost ark.

edit: i didnt think updating GPU driver would work but it did

[rose wren]

should try verify file first

[safe patrol]

finally

[plain sorrel]

Wait, you able to roll a leggo skin on your first try ?

[vast oriole]

not the channel for that btw

[sullen solstice]

ceiling arcana

[sullen solstice]

yup, got leggo weapon on first try on my aero xd

[safe patrol]

i got the armor and helmet on first try

[plain sorrel]

Hump, let me buy and try, AGS may buff the rate

[static jungle]

uh does anyone know where these dungeons are? i cant find them on the map

[candid lake]

the legion raids

[lavish mortar]

Alt q
Legion raids

[static jungle]

oh hm

not kazeros raid right

[vast oriole]

no

legion raids

[static jungle]

oh got it

bottom right

ty

[bold geyser]

it was a solo battle royale, but people were teaming and ruined it

[full epoch]

Back in the day, Brelshaza 1.0 was 6 gates, its 4 now i think

[static jungle]

i want a vykas pet, take my money.

[bold geyser]

i mean...

[static jungle]

OMG

IS THAT IN THE SHOP HAHAHAHA

GETTING IT

its not in the shop qq

[bold geyser]

280k on the market

[static jungle]

oof. best i can do is 4k

[full epoch]

thats the spirit

[static jungle]

oaky theres 4 of them

so a cool 1m

[full epoch]

3 grudge books

om

[static jungle]

these collectibles for the zones are way too expensive too

i wonder if i'll ever be able to complete these.

its lioke 200g per, needing about idk, 500 total?

[bold geyser]

never used to be, theres just so few people farming them now

[static jungle]

oof.

[full epoch]

f2p sidecontent solo player enjoyer kinda have it hard to get to their 100% collectables

[static jungle]

yeah.. im getting the newer zones done but no way i can do collectibles

[plain sorrel]

Use to be 30k 2 years ago

[full epoch]

i got 7k hours and gave up half way, most of mine are like 60ish%

[livid fossil]

That’s when i just farmed collectable I didn’t raid i just sat in zone killing same monster over and over and over and over and over again

[rose wren]

punt into blackhole

[static jungle]

very confused on g1 of brel. i died to some cube exploding then it completed weird.

[livid fossil]

Skip

That

[rose wren]

that g0, skip

[livid fossil]

Top of entering

Is skip

[static jungle]

oh

i mean it completed

[rose wren]

thats nothing, tour boost u to 70~ up to punika

[safe patrol]

whats inside fusion box again?

[rose wren]

oreha

[lavish mortar]

... fusions?

[safe patrol]

char bound oreha?

[rose wren]

everything is bound in paradise

[safe patrol]

meh

i tho its rooster bound

[rose wren]

nope

thats y its per char run

[static jungle]

how does the counter work in g1?

im coutnering it and still dying

it has two faces it seems

[plain sorrel]

Triple counter, need to do Azena first to clear the mobs right before the mech

[static jungle]

oh

and you counter the white semi circle right

nothing happens when i counter the bleu

[full epoch]

i know that its nothing, im no sidecontent enjoyer and just wanted to state that its hard for f2ps.
Just gave up half way, cause i didnt see any value in dumping gold into sidecontent 😄

[lavish mortar]

Yes, thats the front
You have have counter the front

[rose wren]

its kinda worth but its insane madness amount of gold nowadays, reaching 8ignea token makes u stronger

[static jungle]

oh wtf

is that how it works for every boss?

i had no idea the semi circles meant front and back lol

[full epoch]

oh boi

[rose wren]

er i guess thats normal, it doesnt guide u

[vast oriole]

youc an change the colors to your liking

[static jungle]

ohhh

yeah i saw that somewhere

gonna make it blue nad red or something

[full epoch]

enjoy the good ol classic brel raid

[static jungle]

hmm maybe blue front red back or other way idk

hm

[plain sorrel]

You counter when the you face the boss front, try to follow him , when he stop, he will glow in blue aura, then you hit your counter skill

[rose wren]

learn the basic games in training here

[static jungle]

oh

which one training room?

is it more dangerous to be in front of the boss than in their back usually?

[bold geyser]

usually

very much depends on the boss though

[static jungle]

hm okay, red = bad, blue = good then

do counters only work from front?

[plain sorrel]

The default indicator is white front, blue back

[static jungle]

that explains

so so much

[full epoch]

depends on attack patterns, but yeah. also if u are a backattacker class u actually try to get at their back

[plain sorrel]

The blue back indicator is not the blue aura when counter

[static jungle]

these raids look so visually impressive

[plain sorrel]

Brel has very impressive hot body

[obsidian valve]

it's bittersweet really

[full epoch]

thats the old g1-6, if u wanna skip through.

They removed g2 & g5 if i remember correctly.
Solomode also has most of the mechanics removed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esU6XB2QHn8

[static jungle]

also cool g2 had no mechanics, zugzug

[static jungle]

oh thats nice

[plain sorrel]

G2 has a much simplified mech i think

[static jungle]

it "killed me" at one point

but i had 1 health and just potted

no idea what that was, other than that it just melted idk

[full epoch]

probably the star cube mechanic 😄

[static jungle]

g3 no mechanics either

just a big angry prism thing

this game is so insanely pretty

[full epoch]

i had to struggle for 1 entire week in pugs to get my first clear back then

dude just runs through blind with the 1 taps

[static jungle]

ouch 😄

hmm

g4 is breaking the ground and im falling through wth D:

oh i think theres a meteor falling on me hm

[full epoch]

The golden Meteor has to hit 12,3,6 or 9 o'clock

got the timestamp:

https://youtu.be/esU6XB2QHn8?t=3080

[plain sorrel]

What ilevel is your toon ?

[static jungle]

1690

just finished i tihnk the meteor thing was the only mechanic to worry about

i wonder if this would be difficult on a 1580 character for gold

is this useful for anything? dropped from boss

[plain sorrel]

Oh that explains why i feel you run very fast and skip most mech

[candid lake]

i dont think it would be difficult

[candid lake]

no unless

[static jungle]

mhm, was doing for completion

[candid lake]

if u wanna SWIPE SWIPE

[static jungle]

oh boy lol

[obsidian valve]

mostly for whale honing me thinks

[full epoch]

if u wanna invest 50k Euro, sure

[static jungle]

im gonna swipe for pets i think. but like, swiping for power seems very counter productive.

[obsidian valve]

https://tenor.com/view/humpback-whale-whale-onthe12thfloor-stan-twitter-gif-3446111347746334272

[candid lake]

it's technically BiS weapon but u need so much put into it

for it to be good

[static jungle]

ah i see.

[candid lake]

but first u gotta get an ancient weapon to +25

before u can unlock the stages after +6 or some shit

[rose wren]

rip storage space, -1 forever

[livid fossil]

got the mofo 80x and had no pots and used my hyper eailer and got off one sidereal before i died

Was take chip dmg even away from him stupid game

[plain sorrel]

Are u still doing that Act 2 solo ?

[livid fossil]

Yeah

My main already did in group

[plain sorrel]

Just swap to Valkyrie

[livid fossil]

So theses are just alt that can do it

Valkyrie challenge needs it for gold I probably should do her

[junior pelican]

What was the play for using the event on two characters?

Select 1680ish character > Take 1680 box > ? > Switch event to powerpassed new character
?

[livid fossil]

[plain sorrel]

Alt solo should not be too bad, i tested it on a fresh account with event char on 66 enlightment points

[bold geyser]

bouta on my baby express db here goes 😄

[livid fossil]

Alt db which was main before I switched to Valkyrie that what doing it.

I mean if I didn’t run into things I pretty sure this would been over lol . And I thought I broke the glass and stop clock for week point on last attempt but I guess didn’t cause I looked up and time was red lol opps

[bold geyser]

what part is giving you trouble?

[livid fossil]

I guess trying not get chip dmg by stuff and I sometimes just slow to move out of the way of stuff I should just dodge

[bold geyser]

ah, it be like that sometimes 😄

[plain sorrel]

Run Heavy Amor

[bold geyser]

unironically this 😄

[lavish grove]

Machinist Guide

Click here to view the full guide

Dec 31, 2025, 3:36 AM

[static jungle]

i can safely drop this quest right

is pvp still decent for materials?

[unique fox]

What story mode is recommended to skip in your opinions?

Obviously the level 10 -> 50

knowledge transfer

[balmy plank]

Maybe some but PvP is mega dead. So dead its being removed from the game in a couple months

[static jungle]

oh really? wth

i was setting book of coordination lol

like straight up removed?

[balmy plank]

The real recommendation is wait for a free powerpass to engame. You can KT to North Vern for 600g and save 10 hours but there is still ~75 hours or story after. You can KT additional steps after but KT only skips the story quests. You have to gear up manually in between

In the new year all that early gearing is basically getting removed tho

[balmy plank]

Yes. All book of coordination stuff is being removed including PvP and Hell modes

[unique fox]

I want to level up a 1250 and a 500 ilvl character, should I just wait on both?

[static jungle]

thats awk. guess im not gonna bother then, thats sad. i remember pvp being kinda fun.

[balmy plank]

Tbh youre better off waiting a couple months for the Tier 3 changes. Otherwise youll spend these next months grinding gear sets only for it to be completely irrelevant

[static jungle]

like how can i tell which one is better

f it, trusting combat power.

[balmy plank]

Dont do that

[static jungle]

too late,

deleted the other one

YOLO

[lavish mortar]

What class/spec

[balmy plank]

Well tbh youre an idiot

respectfully

[static jungle]

aeromancer drizle hunter

[balmy plank]

What stats does your class use? crit/spec/swift?

[static jungle]

spec + crit

spec main stat i think

[lavish mortar]

The use the spec crit one

Pretty straight forward

[static jungle]

ah. is it main stat >> anything else?

[lavish mortar]

Cuz those bracers are both shitty

[lavish mortar]

More or less, yeah

[balmy plank]

Then you want those stats on a bracelet. SImle as. Then for a good bracelet you want those 2 stats + rolled damage lines

[vapid bluff]

what's better? trying to get the 20p on all astrogems or focusing more on astrogem stats like boss atk/additional dmg/atk power?

[static jungle]

way too expensive sadly

[balmy plank]

An example of one of my bracelets. 2 stats & rolled Damage lines. You can get gauranteed 2 fixed & 3 additional line bracelets from hell. Thats how a lot of people get their bracelets these days

[static jungle]

oh. i havent done hell yet, no keys

i think i get some tmrw?

is it from the chests at the end?

[balmy plank]

Yea

[static jungle]

awesome if i see a bracelet chest ill pick it up

so accessories yo uget from the gold shop

and bracelets from hell??

[balmy plank]

You can get a set of stater accessories from the gold shop yes. You can also get accessory chests from hell too. They only cost silver to roll and can be good if you need them

[static jungle]

hmm

im still using the starter ones from the event

[balmy plank]

Special honing > Fusions > Gold are the big 3 from hell.
Bracelets, Accessories, Destiny Stones are all good options too

[static jungle]

oh okay.

so if i see a chest of the 3 above i always pick them?

[balmy plank]

When you finish a hell key you get 3 options and can only pick 1

[static jungle]

also. i got an alt that can do hells next week too. can i xfer the mats from that alt to main?

or is there no point doing it

[static jungle]

mhm, ut its like, special honing > fusions > gold > bracelets/accessories/destiny stones?

[balmy plank]

No. Everything from hell is char bound. Everything.
BUT your alt could encounter an altar of hell, put an extra hell key in it, convert that key to a fire/ice key and get unique rewards like Relic Books or Cards that benefit the whole roster

[balmy plank]

yea

[static jungle]

oh that sounds complicated lol

and okay ty.

[balmy plank]

Its not really in practice

The alter can buff/nerf additional hell keys

[static jungle]

ah. i see. hmm guess il ldo it on alt too

leveling alts seems so daunting atm.

like beyond impossible.

[balmy plank]

It is extremely hard without events

[lavish mortar]

Its only possible if you do paradise or wait for events

[static jungle]

im ok with waiting for the next event, im sure afraid my main might still need it lmao

[cloud pendant]

Is ark grid ever going to be nerfed like transcendence and elixir?

[balmy plank]

Ever? Sure

[livid fossil]

Character bound

[balmy plank]

Anytime soon? Probably not

[vast oriole]

they suually nerf the system after like 9 months

it just came out

so no, not yet

(btw that trans and elixir nerf was after almost 2 years)

[livid fossil]

2028 ark grid nerf

[foggy venture]

is it about time for karma nerf?

[livid fossil]

Wasn’t it nerfed already

[foggy venture]

you tell me

[vast oriole]

They nerfed it

From 1.1k to 900g

[balmy plank]

The real nerf that made karma fine is X2 mats front he raid and 30 from the solo shop

[warm field]

A whole in 200g savings!

[deft parrot]

is there a way i can play valtan with my 2 other friends without joining a full raid group? we want to learn the mechs together without being overgeared

[unique fox]

I hope so. That sounds like a lot of fun

[livid fossil]

Make a another character and only get him to Valtan ilvl

Other than that

No

[deft parrot]

i mean we all get the powerpass rn that makes us way over leveled right?

[livid fossil]

Anything past ilvl would be overgeared

Yes

1640

Pp would be waste

[deft parrot]

so i need find 5 more ppl to do hell valtan lol?

[split kayak]

Take off gear 1 by 1 maybe works

[livid fossil]

Cause you would be over gear

[split kayak]

[deft parrot]

no way to start valtan 3 man?

[livid fossil]

Nope

4 or nothing

[deft parrot]

wait u can do valtan 4 man?

[mellow mauve]

no

the only 4man hell raid is clown

[lavish mortar]

No only 8
Lich is a known dummy sometimes

[static jungle]

uh, am i doing something wrong. im doing this dumb cooking quest for zone completions and they just keep getting.. worse and worse?

doing this one atm, theres barely any spots to get the thing from, and like, 99% of the time it just fails

are they supposed to be huge time sinks?

[paper walrus]

have fun with rng

[static jungle]

i mean im down, just watching youtube videos lol.

what im really confused about is how to get the collectibles done when they are so expensive

[paper walrus]

if you are only trying to reach a certain number of keys, skip svern, its one of the worst cooking

collectibles are random drop from every mob

so either farm up or buy them

[static jungle]

svern?

[paper walrus]

south vern

[static jungle]

oh

[paper walrus]

cause

[static jungle]

thas the one im doing rn

[paper walrus]

nvern

[static jungle]

so stupid.

yeah.

i guess im moving on

[paper walrus]

svern was fun tho

[static jungle]

actually nvm

there are only 17 zones. and the thing i want is the pet

so cant skip any 😭

[paper walrus]

theres one where you have to check in every 2 hours or it fails

4 times in a row

[static jungle]

LOL

that sounds annoying

[paper walrus]

i dont find things annoying

just do them

[static jungle]

mhm.

[livid fossil]

Time gated collectables lol just make sure you do math what time you need to log back on for those

[marsh grove]

south vern clam one takes awhile, just go around to each spot on rotation and pray

[static jungle]

mhm doing that while watching true crime stuff

im chillin

9 of these pos so far.

[neat estuary]

why's this popping up at 1am server time?

[livid fossil]

Cause reset

Is coming up

[neat estuary]

ya it says 2am not 1am though, but found out it's 1 hour earlier when we're in standard time instead of daylight savings

[static jungle]

does the server go down for a while for maintenance? or is it quick

[lavish mortar]

Expected to be down 4h this time

[static jungle]

i see ty.

[subtle patio]

for hell in paradise, does it matter what paradise power you have?

[wild canopy]

?CARDS

[buoyant dock]

Recommended Card Pack for each Card Set _

[lavish mortar]

More pp=tankier mobs is the only difference I've noticed

[subtle patio]

what does this do

or what do i transmute

[bold geyser]

other hell keys

[subtle patio]

do i use a gold hell key?

or skip it

cuz i only got a gold hell key left

[bold geyser]

sorry dodging

i typically use the lowest key i have available, hoping to get lucky

[subtle patio]

what does it usually give?

[bold geyser]

gimme like 3 mins sorry

[unique fox]

I need the help rn more than I have ever asked in this chat

[bold geyser]

-2 to +2 key levels, or transform to nether key

[unique fox]

Can I somehow mute the stronghold lady that talks to me every time I warp in

butler adeline or whatever

[bold geyser]

sorry had to finish raid

a gold key will either turn into a blue key, a purple key, a relic key, an ancient key, a nether fire gold key, or a nether ice gold key

i dont know the %s or if it's literally just rolling a d6

[subtle patio]

ah i see

[bold geyser]

i would argue that 4 of those 6 are improvements, so i always roll

[subtle patio]

i skipped it

[bold geyser]

but you could always have bad luck 😄

[subtle patio]

also whats shards

these?

[bold geyser]

no

destiny shards =(((

unless you have mountains of fusion materials thats easily the best value there

[subtle patio]

ah yah imma choose fusion thanks

[lucid axle]

not that ik of lol

[balmy tendon]

Any info on what card set the next raid is going to use?

[balmy tendon]

Hey, you're back! I was waiting for you. There are matters that need your approval. You can go check them in the office.

[unique fox]

I should change voices to korean

[wise juniper]

Is "main materials" in act 4 and 5 the cores?

[lucid axle]

ye

[wise juniper]

Do you know if and how they're weighted? For example act 4 HM gives 2 cores but act 5 NM gives 4 cores if you buy the boxes. Would more always be better or would higher difficuty give better cores?

[lucid axle]

higher difficulty gives minimum legendary

NM gives epic minimum

and usually expect the minimum

and always buy the boxes

its doubling the rate at which you get your cores

since for some reason they decided to make it rng instead of crafting materials

[bold geyser]

i mean thats true of any raid 😄

[lucid axle]

well for cores its espically the case

its build changing

[bold geyser]

yeah i really need to get into a4

[lucid axle]

doesnt necessarily change every class a bunch

but is a huge dmg increase if you drop a relic sun core

[wise juniper]

[lucid axle]

issue is getting the core in the first place

but with relic selector box they gave out for free at least you can get a main in and be happy

[lucid axle]

getting in early helps

but if you goal was to get cores and get a lot stronger in just a few weeks

[bold geyser]

not sure theres still time to get in early

[lucid axle]

dont expect much

[bold geyser]

but nonetheless i shall try 😄

[lucid axle]

well as early as possible

gives you more weeks of rng and to build pity for boxes

[bold geyser]

theres 6 little circles, do you always end up with the same 6 or do you pick and choose once you get a lot?

[lucid axle]

you equip 3 blue 3 red

the blues are generic

usually the same 3 for every class (some niche cases i believe)

reds are class specific

and can vary depending on the build

[bold geyser]

shall worry about that once i get some then 😄

[lucid axle]

some have a BIS build some have options

[prime anvil]

The reset after this upcoming one is the balance patch right

[lucid axle]

its not to complicated but learn about how to be efficent with atrogems when you get into it

[bold geyser]

no idea if we got a specific date

[lucid axle]

can drain a lot of gold if you spend recklessly

[lucid axle]

should be next month i dont think its this one

expect like the 21st or something

[bold geyser]

def not this one its dec 31st 😄

☝️ that was my assumption

[lucid axle]

we get out patches always at the later end of the month

[unique fox]

how do I make sidreal clash the snake so I dont have to do the mechanic like 4 times

in the video the sidreal did the mechanic one time and you just kill the snake with a rotation

[bold geyser]

soon as you see the blue circle, point your cursor at it, and hit the thar shortcut, whatever that is for you

[unique fox]

I didnt point the cursor anywhere in particular, thats prob why

will try that again tomorrow since reset is here

though i have to admit it brings me back to when I played DDR-like games

or rhythm games

[bold geyser]

its not hard, but it all depends on you, so its a little daunting 😄

[unique fox]

Its a fun mechanic honestly

I was just shocked I had to play with the snake like 3 times

[bold geyser]

all perfects?

[unique fox]

I got one good, but otherwise yeah

hey the quality on this is really high, but I think the stats are garbage? Is there any way to improve jewlery or is this just a scrap

can't you increase quality on items now?

[bold geyser]

not on jewelry

refining it will give it more stats and pick random affixes

its usually not worth the cost, most people will buy off teh market or buy the new bound gold accs

the quality is good the stats will end up towards the top, its just that the affixes are really important and the really good ones are rare

you could gamba, but its a risk

[vapid bluff]

best to least?

[lucid axle]

depends on class

[static jungle]

What’s the nest thing to craft in the stronghold for gold?

[tired cargo]

i'd say B is best since it's consistent though I wish vita was str/int/dex

if only the crit stat was on C it would've been the best one

4 hours

it's on anno

[strange viper]

Theres a crafting calculator somewhere where you can input the amount of materials and cost and it'll show you how much profit you make if any.

[static jungle]

Ohhhh

I’ll look it up. Thank you.

[strange viper]

https://la-tools.com/crafting-calculator I guess that might be it. I never used it but looks like something

[static jungle]

Mhm ty

[strange viper]

You basically want to craft something you specialized in, like lets say fusion mats.. then you go to your stronghold and get all the things that reduce crafting cost and increase great success chance. Things like your pets, buildings and costumes have small bonuses.

[vapid bluff]

Demonic

[lucid axle]

left id say but maybe ask the class channel im not 100% to sure

spec stat does a lot of work

[primal herald]

when they say "proving grounds removed"

is proving grounds the entirety of PvP

or was that just a part of it

[dim pulsar]

part of it, pvp islands still up

well its like 10% of what PVP will be of what we had

[primal herald]

i c

they should remove pvp islands too tbh

[dim pulsar]

99% of pvp after gvg removed was arena soo

pvp is basicly removed from game

[primal herald]

crazy

also

this part where they shifted a ton of rewards around on guardian and chaos dungeon

it seems like evrything was just moved around except

gems are just gone?

they're removed from chaos

and NOT added to guardian

unless im blind

so are we just getting robbed of gems now

[dim pulsar]

ur blind, they are shifted to Guardians

ur gonna do chaos for shardies and bound mats (just more than before)

[edgy mason]

why remove below 1580 chaos gatres??

huh

dont effect me ut why

[safe patrol]

mt is done?

[primal herald]

ig for ppl making 20 alt accounts with 1580 rat chars and farming gold from chaos gate

[lucid axle]

2 more hours

[safe patrol]

[lucid axle]

just check announcements if ur ever curious

[edgy mason]

so new players must go to 1580 to play xd. wasnt there missis i story to chaosgate?

[lucid axle]

1585 is through story

you dont need hone to it when the update comes

[edgy mason]

oh:D

igosleepfor1hour

[split kayak]

Have they ever released this?

[lucid axle]

pretty sure i recognize the left outfits

[edgy mason]

the guy on right looks like that villian from metal gear

[split kayak]

In namu wiki it's an ark pass skin, but it seems different with west's ark pass?

[safe patrol]

why playing support give me peace of mind

everytime i apply to raid

insta accept

[edgy mason]

only reason i kept my 2 supports. their 1600 rn barely able to solo raid xd

even with tempest is easier woth my sorc

[safe patrol]

i was thinking to push beyond 1640 for this valk support

[edgy mason]

if i get lucky in paradise this week my remaining 4 alts will be tier4

[safe patrol]

ohh they open the lvl 9 now right?

[edgy mason]

yea

[safe patrol]

nice

[edgy mason]

1 more hour left. i go in and do paradise first of all on each character.

[safe patrol]

after upgrading some artifact on paradise to lvl9

[edgy mason]

priorities xd

[safe patrol]

im confused to use skill

they cd to fast

[dim pulsar]

at lvl9s u mostly use T skill + some 1/2 skills to fill cd

[safe patrol]

yea haha

T skill -> eye of the storm -> random shiet

btw how much cp i gain from swapping lvl7 gem to lvl8?

[dim pulsar]

+- 13 per gem

[safe patrol]

dang thats big

[dim pulsar]

considering lvl8 is 300k gold? nah its not

[marsh grove]

big W for gem prices tho

lvl 8 was well over 400k a month or so ago

still rough though yeah

[lucid axle]

if you have dps meter itll not be so peace of mind if you are really bad

but as long as you understand how to play support a lot of them time you will be fine

theres ppl out there with supports having 10% uptime on there brand skill somehow at 1680

being a support though if you see 90/90/50/40 youre happy

[lucid axle]

act 4 and kaz full nerfed this week right?

[limpid aurora]

yee

[lucid axle]

[languid hatch]

how do i fix my engravings, i m playing bard

i still get this message

[hearty kraken]

its because of your stone. you have a stone for Grudge and Keen Blunt Weapon. You need to cut a stone for Support

the bottom right one

grudge and keen blunt weapon are for your dps Spec I assume

[languid hatch]

Not sure, i m new to the gmae, i equiped the sutuff i had from the power pass or smh

[hearty kraken]

yeah, your stone is good for dps spec/solo

[lucid axle]

i’d recommend following the dps build till you can reach things to play with others

[languid hatch]

so i need to farm a stone with the engravings i need ?

[hearty kraken]

farm/buy and cut, yes. But you are probably at the part where you are solo so you should go for the dps build until you hit the part where people actually group and while you get there get a stone for support

[lavish mortar]

If you have the style settings from express event you can select the support one and get a stone for free there

[dry pilot]

[languid hatch]

I might have a stroke rly soon

can some1 link a dps build ? if possible from this site
https://uwuowo.mathi.moe/dashboard

[strong moat]

did they change the requirements for T skill? i thought it was 1580 lvl 60 and south kurzan MSQ no?

[minor briar]

its 1540 now

[strong moat]

well yeah i'm 1585 did MSQ and i'm lvl 60

and the quest just.... isn't there

[strange viper]

No, go look for one on nexus instead. https://www.lostark.nexus/

[minor briar]

go to stats, raid performance then click ur class's top parse build

[crimson cobalt]

yo, i just lost a frost key in hell bc i went to the next floor too fast. is there any ways i can get it back? i checked all the storages and mail

[dim pulsar]

no

[languid hatch]

where is that, can't find those categories

[smoky sun]

what is better
freetaping +20 armor for 20 stones
or +18 wep for 50 stones?

[dim pulsar]

[strong moat]

https://www.lostark.nexus/ just use this for builds

[dim pulsar]

can tap 0 aswell soo

[minor briar]

all to 19 imo, better rates

[smoky sun]

got 5 pieces of armor on +20
and wep +18

[minor briar]

stats at the top

but yes, just use nexus for ur base build

adjustments u can make after u learn the class better

[languid hatch]

k

[dim pulsar]

top builds in uwu are with ark grid cores, u wont have this so its useless for u

[minor briar]

thats true

[dim pulsar]

like spin2win slayer build

[languid hatch]

i assume bard is shit for beginners

[minor briar]

depends if ur a fast learner or not

[languid hatch]

2-3 of gametime

yeh

[minor briar]

wdym 2-3

2-3 hrs?

thats not a lot

[languid hatch]

iknow

[minor briar]

but also if ur starting out as a solo raid player

then bard aint the best

but if u have a friend ur playing with, then going sup is fine

cuz u can duo join pf's

and learn tgt

[languid hatch]

well i fell that's too late since i already selected the character with the powerpass or whatever the name is

[minor briar]

ah, should be fine

i'd read https://lostark.nexus/support when u can

[languid hatch]

link one more .doc and i jump from 7th floor

[lavish grove]

Bard Guide

Click here to view the full guide

Dec 31, 2025, 1:32 PM

[paper walrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/578471241971925012/1297051741887533157/jckeyjnsejx41.gif

[thorny heath]

to the support mains: this negative stat is completely irrelevant to get on ability stones right?

[scenic marten]

yes but some dps mains might think you are stupid and gatekeep u

[thorny heath]

uhhhhh

[plain sorrel]

Power by 2 batteries on her chest

[hearty kraken]

is staying on t3 for advanced honing still a thing or did it get nerfed anyway?

[thorny heath]

as always do it if you have mats but dont postpone it too much, or transfer gear piece by gear piece

[plain sorrel]

I recently did AH on tier 3 on an alt i stocked up a lot of t3 mat

[vast oriole]

Its the best stone you can get on a sup btw

9 drops is better than 9 awa

Fuck you

[ocean parcel]

I do hate how stones cost peons…

[dim pulsar]

thats why WE DONT BUY them

[ocean parcel]

Yeah. So we just hope for a drop everytime?

[dim pulsar]

umm yeah?

or get in hell

and since express now give u free 2/2 u dont even need to do shit

[vast oriole]

^

[livid fossil]

Imagine cutting day before 2026

[mellow granite]

were getting auto stone cutting next year right

and like bulk tapping for gear and stuf

?

[outer mason]

yeah, should be on the february update

[safe patrol]

any valk tips here?

[dim pulsar]

hit hard, dont die

[safe patrol]

[plucky drum]

dude..i am so bamboozled with paradise

[mellow granite]

im so lazy im saving every single stone from now on until I can auto cut them

[plucky drum]

like i just dont get it at all xD

[livid fossil]

Press them buttons

[plucky drum]

how are 3.5m and so finishing level 9 under 10sec xD

im maybe exaggerating but still you get the point xD

my 6m is so trash

[outer mason]

I'm doing the same
got 150 stones ready to be cut on my paladin

[plucky drum]

i am pressin all them buttoms unc

im still trash apparently

[marble shell]

what class

[plucky drum]

aeromancer

[marble shell]

u have 6m power? whats ur pb

[plucky drum]

i do but dumb question still learning the acronyms but what is PB?

[marble shell]

personal best

[plucky drum]

i just keep trying to beat my PB but no avail xD

[marble shell]

did you play around with your skill build yet

[outer mason]

wind fury is generally better in paradise (compared to drizzle)

[plucky drum]

yeah im playing WF

and i have a paradise build

[marble shell]

hmmmmmm

[safe patrol]

hi guys is this really tradeable?

[plucky drum]

trust me..me and anothe rone here tried to optimise it wahaha

i guess my RBG is shit is all

[candid lake]

it says it is

[plucky drum]

RNG*

there he is!

ishdoan!

[candid lake]

you can control right click it to preview the stuff it is

😮

it's YOU

[marble shell]

if ur fighting the scorpion guy he has dmg reduction in the beginning so dont send ur awakening yet. Other than that most dmg comes from Awk T skill then good tripods

also forgot about resonance

some do good damage

[plucky drum]

Ishdoan and I tried to optimise it

[candid lake]

my method of optimization gave me mana issues

kekw

[plucky drum]

nah im way pass the scorpion guy

[safe patrol]

i see but its none on the market haha

how much is it?

[candid lake]

search

soulflower

[plucky drum]

xD

[candid lake]

and press all

on the left sied

[safe patrol]

only 80k dang

[marble shell]

damn, sadly dont have an aero to test wish you could see people's logs/skill usage in leaderboard

[plucky drum]

it's all good. im just gonna be forever bamboozled xD

my rng is just shit

[marble shell]

[livid fossil]

Ability useless chaos stone useless only thing left is bracelet rip nether key

[marsh grove]

whatchu doin gamblin on yor's jars brother

[safe patrol]

need the pants now

and then another set for valk

i hate this thing, wanted to up the sup valk

[marsh grove]

none on the market?

[split kayak]

wtf rich

[safe patrol]

i think they had it

but u know

the feeling to gamba them

its good

[subtle patio]

which one do i pick

[vast oriole]

do you have season 1 orbs ?

heal one in particular

[subtle patio]

nope

[vast oriole]

then take third one

[livid fossil]

Do I take the vitality and dex on bracelet if I got 2 main stats

[strange viper]

no

[livid fossil]

Okay

[strange viper]

you want your two main stats + 3 dps lines like crit, additional dmg etc..

[livid fossil]

Ah

[mellow granite]

wait why does that matter :o

[strange viper]

season 1 orb is SOOO much better than any of the season 2 orbs its not even funny

[safe patrol]

[strange viper]

and i hope they bring the season 1 orb back in future seasons or put it on the vendor or something so ppl who missed can get it too

[vast oriole]

kr nerfed the heal orb xd

[strange viper]

yea that works too i guess

honestly they should buff the new orbs instead of nerfind the old ones but either way works i guess

[vast oriole]

its 1k heal instead of 8888

[strange viper]

44k heal every 45sec is kinda bonkers.. i havent had to use any hp pots since i got the orb

but i only play solo so i guess pots are not rly needed either way, nothing does any dmg anyway

[hearty kraken]

they enabled lost ark for linxu now right?

[vast oriole]

like months ago yes

[hearty kraken]

hey, last time I played I stopped because I knew I couldnt continue once I swap to linux.
Right now im just wondering how to switch (like buy a new ssd or wipe my current one and when I am actually motivated enough)

[languid hatch]

where can i farm these ? outside crafting on stronghold ?

[balmy plank]

?fusion

[buoyant dock]

Fusion Material Guide _

[hearty kraken]

also is transcendence thingy and elixier dead?

[livid fossil]

Yes

They are a part of ark pass

[hearty kraken]

wait, the systems still exist? cause I didnt see the npcs anymore

[balmy plank]

They dont

Your old elixir set bonus is a new line in the evo tree in ark passive

Thats all you need to worry about. The rest of the power was distributed elsewhere

[vast oriole]

a friend sent this
Just install normally
Using proton
No need to touch anything
Tell him to enable proton in compatibillity settings tho

[subtle patio]

whats in the special honing chest

[strange viper]

free taps

[static jungle]

yeah im playing on it rn, it works fine.

[safe patrol]

happy new year yall

[bold geyser]

what gear level are you at?

[subtle patio]

1699

i chose the bound gold chest

[bold geyser]

special honing has good potential value, but you have to be willing to stomach the gamba 😄

golds always good

i'm using them for free weapon taps, to try to avoid spending a fortune

[static jungle]

only way to get more stronghold effects / crafting effects is adding outfits and structures right?

[vast oriole]

yes

[bold geyser]

those specific effects, yeah

[static jungle]

is there more stuff we can do to make our crafting better?

[lavish mortar]

doesn't matter as long as you don't actually activate it

[languid hatch]

How hard are these to obtain

[lavish mortar]

?fusion

[buoyant dock]

Fusion Material Guide _

[languid hatch]

Bro itsa fucking question

[dim pulsar]

hard and NOT hard

depen if u have $$$

(gold)

[strange viper]

you get a ton of them from hell

[dim pulsar]

only if u hit fusion chest tho

and sadly its not common this season

[strange viper]

dunno feels like i get them all the time.. just shards and fusion and guardian/destro stone 😩

[dim pulsar]

wtf gimme that

[livid fossil]

Dang bro got up set cause we didn’t type it out for him

[maiden locust]

which dmg efficiency is the t skill

[lavish mortar]

wdym dmg efficiency

like ally dmg enhancement vs ally atk power?

[maiden locust]

dps meter for sups

[pastel mica]

would you gem bard Z or heavenly tune? (from 8 to 9)

[mellow mauve]

9 on z

[pastel mica]

thank you

[subtle patio]

are these worth getting from the gold shop if i have relic accessories given to me from the powerpass/mokoko express

this is what i currrently have on

or should i just buy the ancients accs from the ah

[balmy plank]

THey are better. Theyre pinned here

[ocean parcel]

It’s okay to get. On scale of 1-10, 10 being the hardest. It’s probably between 1-10

[static jungle]

do i have to do crucible/elysian on alts every week for hell keys?

[ocean parcel]

Yes.

[static jungle]

oh which one

[ocean parcel]

The one where you have 5 entrees

[static jungle]

okies

ty

[lavish mortar]

nope just need to do crucible once then log in weekly

[static jungle]

oh. like once ever?

[lavish mortar]

ye

[static jungle]

cool ty

[ocean parcel]

Oh shit. Did not know that.

Learn something new everyday

[languid hatch]

I understand, it's somewhat between bitcoin market rate and ur IQ

[worldly slate]

What to upgrade first in paradise content? I have now all +9 but I don’t know if I should upgrade all the same lvl each time or just focus on +15/18

[livid fossil]

?paradise

[buoyant dock]

Min/Max Guide for Early Elysian & Crucible _

[livid fossil]

You do the other RnG system

Click and make stuff SS

Have fun

[static jungle]

at what ilvl does it start to make sense doing raids on alts for gold?

[dim pulsar]

what a weird question

u do all raids u can to get ANY gold u can

gold is ur blood here

u cant live without it

if its 1460 alt, do all solo raids u can, its smol gold but its GOLD

[scenic summit]

What level of strong hold do i need to get a chef

[plain sorrel]

1415

[static jungle]

dang it

[plain sorrel]

What alt do you have ?

[static jungle]

let me check

1580 slayer that i really do not enjoy. 1432 zerker, i also dont enjoy it, but its tolerable, 1375 paladin this one is fun, 1340 deathblade HATE IT SO MUCH, 1250 gunlancer this one is ok, gunslinger 1250 this one sucks, 500 valk never played it, 50 soulfist never played it

[marsh grove]

bro hates his whole roster

[static jungle]

i do lol

❤️ my drizzle aeromancer tho

the paladin is okay too but i havent played it much

[strange viper]

hating gunslinger makes sense, deathblade can be fun if you play the fun build

[static jungle]

oof it was my first class, i think it traumatized me.

i tried really hard to enjoy it, but it was so so so painful to play.

[vast oriole]

just delete every class you dont like

[static jungle]

like straight up delete?

even if its 1580?

[vast oriole]

and create chars in feb when you wont nedd to get gear

[static jungle]

oh

[vast oriole]

sure why not

[static jungle]

i might do it then, true.

[vast oriole]

why would you keep chars you wont play

[static jungle]

gonna keep them for now for unas.

using them for unas stuff atm.

[outer mason]

based

[dim pulsar]

why keep them, u can do unas with just main, now u dont even need to do any rep beside enlight pot/ skill pots (not sure if u even need to get any)

[static jungle]

gonna try to do all unas.

completing stuff is fun lol

[vast oriole]

he wnats to do all unas

most likely

[static jungle]

mhm.

other than those you guys suggested im just doing the rest blindly, picking whatever and doing it

its surprisingly quick

[vast oriole]

like this xd

[static jungle]

THAT IS BEAUTIFUL.

THATS WHAT I WANT

[vast oriole]

xDD

[static jungle]

i swear the south vern cooking tho

im on the first item, not done and it took like 3 hours?

[dim pulsar]

theres even worse food in voldis

[static jungle]

(:

(:: 🤡

[vast oriole]

naaa voldis is long but at least its less dogshit rng

oysters are fuckign dogshit

[dim pulsar]

sure less rng, but its soooo BRAIN dmging that i couldnt

[marsh grove]

a lot can be sped up if you do it with a friend (not that I could find anyone to do it with me when I did mine)

[static jungle]

yup thats the one

[vast oriole]

yorn mushrooms are fuckign dogshit

[static jungle]

like as long as its low effort its fine for me, can do it mentally afkd watching something

in february they'

[outer mason]

for oysters, having a good route and channel hopping makes it a bit faster

[static jungle]

in february they're making it easier to level alts?

[vast oriole]

cant channel hop since no ones is in south vern XD

[static jungle]

yup.

[vast oriole]

yes and no

you will need to do all msq but msq rewards you the gear

so you dont need to hone at all till 1585

[static jungle]

oh yuck

oh

hm

[outer mason]

good point

that does mean that knowledge transfer should give you the corresponding gear now?

[vast oriole]

prob not