#lost-ark-help

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safe patrol
livid fossil
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It’s mats for a whale wepon

high stone
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So I can use the pass at 1640 and claim 100k gold, and then swap to another char right?

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The event thingy I mean

indigo marten
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once in blue moon drop for whale wep
only good if u giga whale tap the wep with many of this

rose wren
high stone
bold geyser
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how are you going to claim the gold without advancing through the steps?

rose jewel
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If I could, but I'm working and I'll be for the next several hours

vast oriole
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idk why tist used check there

high stone
vast oriole
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you cant get all gold

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as 1640

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its like 20k

bold geyser
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and i'm saying, how are you going to go from 1640, to 1650, to 1660 without honing?

high stone
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Hmm that’s still good one lvl 7 gem for my 1640😃

vast oriole
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lvl. 7 isnt at 1640

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XD

bold geyser
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its not a thing, if you really want the mats on your 1680, use it on your 1680

plain sorrel
high stone
royal plaza
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Do we have a way to get at least correct Ancien jewelry with one of their event ?

bold geyser
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bound gold shop seems to be the way

royal plaza
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Yeah I was hoping a cheaper way existed

vast oriole
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not really

bold geyser
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providence

torpid marsh
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?advhoning

buoyant dockBOT
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Optimal Advanced Honing Order
+12 -> 1-10 -> +14 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-40 -> Continue to normal hone.
Calculated with no additional materials (Books & Solars) and full on grace for advanced honing (Scrolls & Solars used on full grace only). Personal costs may vary when using an abundance of these items should you have them. You can estimate your costs using Maxrolls Honing Calculator https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/upgrade-calculator

indigo marten
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is there math of high % low flat from bound shop vs mid %mid%

zenith plank
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what other ways can you get skin dyes thats just not the event

bold geyser
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would vary a lot with your specific character stats

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pin has some broad figures you can compare

viscid frigate
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any recommendations to what buy with royal crystals i have 4.5k or any good skin i canbuy to sell for gold

bold geyser
quiet cypress
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quick question I cant open these bc the elixir quest is not available anymore

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and I cant destroy them aswell so what am I supposed to do

bold geyser
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i assume they're going to patch something for it eventually

quiet cypress
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so ill keep em for now ig

bold geyser
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no choice in the matter i'm afraid 🙂

quiet cypress
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true but anways thx

charred condor
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question. how will i unlock ark grid if I cant get into a group and there is no solo?

vast oriole
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you do your own lobby and be patient

charred condor
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im afraid i have tried that already a few times no one joins

dim pulsar
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u can buy lege selector for 40k

vast oriole
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yeah it takes a while

charred condor
dim pulsar
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yep

charred condor
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hmm

faint cedar
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You also have access to one relic selector

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From f4 shop gift

charred condor
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i bought all of them i was under the impression that only completing the raid allows me to use them

dim pulsar
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nope

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they didnt locked it to ONLY raid

faint cedar
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Right click to activate them

dim pulsar
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clear

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it says "upon using core"

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u can buy that core so

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u use core, then u can use it here

faint cedar
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Probably tried to drag and drop or some

charred condor
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i see

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i didnt realize

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thank you

faint cedar
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You are 1700 right

charred condor
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yes of course

faint cedar
charred condor
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i was using the green/blue ones thinking it was all the same i didnt really look into it.. I get it now lol

shy chasm
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Clueless youll get good astrogems

bold geyser
faint cedar
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I cut a 3/5 early and now I’m in debt

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Product inv, where all the gifts go

bold geyser
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oh that 😄

shy chasm
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All I get is 6/5's

bold geyser
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sometimes they do free stuff in the shop but i didn't see anything so i was wonderin

faint cedar
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I get a lot of 5/4s

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But when you’re cutting for lege 14 point that’s fucking useless

zenith plank
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I’m so confused how do I get these

dim pulsar
grizzled smelt
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Which one is the fastest and most dynamic between FI Wardancer and Tai Scrapper ? I wanna make a fighter alt but i'm not sure between these two :). I like fluid gameplay like RE DB and 503 NE Soul eater.

lucid axle
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ask there channel idk

vast oriole
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?sailingcoins

buoyant dockBOT
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How to obtain Sailing Coins
Sailing Coins can be obtained from Adventure Island rewards, Sailing Co-op & 300 can be purchased daily from Merchant Odelia for 900 Adventure Seals in your stronghold market.

vast oriole
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then you exchange them for pirate coins

indigo marten
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daily stronghold 300 high seals coin
event gives bloodclaw coin which turns to pirate coin weekly ig (the hotspring one)
sailing (it is coop. usually people do proycon but ask your server island chat where they usually do it)

vast oriole
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at the ship

indigo marten
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for me in thaemine iirc it is all proycon except yorn

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or something like that

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i only know that cause someone in ingame chat (island chat) told me

vast oriole
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ah you eman the coop sailing

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meh no need to do that

indigo marten
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ye

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i mean it gives decent numbers

vast oriole
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ye but depending on his server

indigo marten
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might as well if u r free

vast oriole
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it might be dead

indigo marten
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true

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thaemine and brel sailing is alive

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thats all i know

vast oriole
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not islands

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coop sailing

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its different

indigo marten
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coop sailing

vast oriole
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whats your server ?

indigo marten
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not island

vast oriole
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ok thats not a dead server

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doesnt work liek that anymore

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you have access to all of them in the market island

indigo marten
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that should be stronghold research

vast oriole
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one of the first npc

indigo marten
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then check your merchant

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it is locked behind research points

vast oriole
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if you did the research for it ofc

indigo marten
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@silk rover check wandering meechant on south vern (or north idr)
just hover your map every login
see if u see them sells golden wealth rune

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that one is silver cost and easiest wealth to get iirc

vast oriole
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legendary rarity

indigo marten
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ye legendary

vast oriole
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doesnt cost gold

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do ctrl d

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you can see all runes and where they are from

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did you do arkesia tour

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ok

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1 purple is killing the lagoon island boss

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youc an solo it

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its 100% droprate iirc

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for the second purple, its sea bounties

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no

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market island

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take the teleport

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icon on top left

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for the island

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you can see when it will spawn again in the calendar

dim pulsar
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well, it is what it is

vast oriole
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yep

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unlucky

dim pulsar
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issue with islands that rotate

vast oriole
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no its just a random screenshot

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do the research that you need

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research name was on the merchant

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where the rune was

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if youd otn ahev the research, you need to do somethign to get it

bold geyser
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look at all that cool stuff yet to come 🙂

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F4 shop, or amethyst exchange, maybe a handful elsewhere

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couple from island souls i think?

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can you describe what it was

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mokoko seeds

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personally like hermidas from the shop

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but see what suits you

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also auto-boosts 😄

dim pulsar
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well

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u dont

bold geyser
dim pulsar
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btw u dont need any skin ship now

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since like 0 events are in sea

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if u want to MokokoSwipe sure, its good value

bold geyser
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tsk tsk tsk

oblique prism
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ive just killed echdina on challenge express, what should i do now to reach the final boss?

livid fossil
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Look at the challenge and the I lvl you need to get to then hone to that I lvl congrats you made to to next boss

oblique prism
dim pulsar
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?gold

buoyant dockBOT
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Gold Sources

Tradable Gold

Tradable Gold is gold that can be used to purchase items from the Market/Auction House as well as be traded to other players.

  • Legion Commander Raids
  • Kazeros Raids
  • Abyssal Dungeons
  • Adventure Island Gold Reward
  • Fate Embers (gold is withheld)
  • Life Skills
  • Selling tradeable items on Marketplace/Auction House.
  • Content Bids
  • Royal Crystal Exchange (gold is withheld)
Roster Bound Gold

Bound Gold is used exclusively for progression systems.

  • Gold Reward Chests from Una's Tokens
  • Mokoko Express Event
  • Solo Mode Raids
Character Bound Gold

Same as Bound Gold, but per character

  • Seasonal Rewards from Paradise Crucible
  • Paradise Hell Chests
  • Certain Legion raids, Kazeros raids, Epic raids partial gold is bound
  • Abyssal Dungeons partial gold is bound
dim pulsar
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mostly solo raids for u

dim pulsar
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u can

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be sure to NOT hone with ur "reward box char only"

livid fossil
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Think it one switch

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Idrc

vast oriole
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its one switch yes

dim pulsar
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1640-80? 150-300k (if ah OMEGA bad)

cloud pendant
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is AH 11-20 discount apply to everyone or just character with event on?

dim pulsar
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nerf is for all chars

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express have bonus x2 balls

cloud pendant
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ah ok thanks

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so it's cheaper to do AH1-20 than getting to +16 eq?

dim pulsar
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?advhoning

buoyant dockBOT
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Optimal Advanced Honing Order
+12 -> 1-10 -> +14 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-40 -> Continue to normal hone.
Calculated with no additional materials (Books & Solars) and full on grace for advanced honing (Scrolls & Solars used on full grace only). Personal costs may vary when using an abundance of these items should you have them. You can estimate your costs using Maxrolls Honing Calculator https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/upgrade-calculator

plain sorrel
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? Honing

bold geyser
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(waht's the question)

dim pulsar
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brain lag

uneven surge
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i was looking at the kaz achievement for the relic selector. it says survive incantation pattern with nobody dying. is this hardmode only?

tender flicker
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Normal works. Its the full meter at the start mech that everyone avoids by doing enough dps. Easiest to get by having everyone but 1 guy die before it starts and having the 1 guy live through it.

vast oriole
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make a support live it with heavy armor

uneven surge
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oh ok i see. yea its like get him to 900 before a minute and he does it

vast oriole
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and its free

uneven surge
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ive never seen it

vast oriole
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no its if you dont get to 900 in a minute

uneven surge
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ya

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thats what im tryna say

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thank you !

bold geyser
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what is this business?

shadow pasture
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Provides Upgrade Supplies Chest

bold geyser
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why does it look like a ticket

dim pulsar
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cuz SG/AGS is dumb

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whatever it is

shadow pasture
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tickets are cool

bold geyser
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sure, where ticket

lavish mortar
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Idk why that'd be in 1670 box tho....

bold geyser
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hence my confusion 😄

midnight nimbus
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is it just me, or do Act4/Act5 significantly reduce FPS?

vast oriole
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Idk, my fps are garbage to begin with

obsidian valve
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yep, happens to me every update 😅

bold geyser
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is the 0.08% quality chance on a 99 accurate?

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or is that rounded and a lie

balmy plank
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0.08% is for 100%

bold geyser
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right

balmy plank
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If youre asking if its 0.08% or 0.0076593%, idk how anyone would know

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Its 0.08% as far as anyone is concerned

bold geyser
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some of you just know things 😄

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bout a 95% chance to hit then WAIT I DID THAT MATH SO WRONG 26% chance

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fingers crossed

lavish mortar
bold geyser
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worried that may be the case

static jungle
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hi im a new player trying to decide which support to pick, can anyone explain to me the differences between paladin and valkyrie?

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specially which one has more consistent healing

paper walrus
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valk is the only support that doesnt have to pick between healing or giving damage

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giving damage is somethign that most if not all players expect

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paladin's identity provides both healing and damage at the same time, so the heal isnt as on demand as valk

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valk's healing is a lot more burstier, but if dps isnt contantly tanking everything with no shields then valk is better

static jungle
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ah i see. i read that supports in general suck at solo content too

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is that a thing?

paper walrus
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sups on sup build sucks in solo

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all sups have a dps build

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in general sups on dps build is slightly lower damage than the average dps but its very clearable in solo

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solo mode dps check is a joke compared to group

static jungle
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ah hmm

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which one is easier to play? paladin or valk?

paper walrus
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booba

candid lake
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but holy fuck

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paladin... made me want to die

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his skills don't flow together well..

limpid moth
paper walrus
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i mean you have to play am with pally dont you

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yeah have fun on solo

static jungle
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oh hm

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i guess ill try valk then if paladins suck solo

paper walrus
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neither class is going to be easy

static jungle
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most of the new player content is solo right?

paper walrus
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you're learning a new game

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just pick whatever

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flip a coin

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most fo new player content is solo yes

runic bough
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Hey folks! Apart from skill & enlightment potions, are there any other horizontal content I need to worry about for character power?

candid lake
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technically stat potions like spec/swift/crit etc

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im not sure tho if the

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arkesia tour gives all of them

balmy plank
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You might want some runes too for skills

runic bough
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Oh right, good call on the runes, that's something I need to work on

static jungle
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are there dps supports in this game?

paper walrus
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no

runic bough
# candid lake technically stat potions like spec/swift/crit etc

Looks like the Ark Tour gives most of them, though I am missing 2 crit and 1 switness potions, I'll get those done at some point, thank you!

As for the str/dex/int pots, those are pretty negligible right? +5 str doesn't seem like anything when one piece of gear gives me like 10k lmao

paper walrus
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neglibiglbge

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they kinda add up but not really

dim pulsar
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u will get them by doing reputations (if u want to even max them) and with roster lvl

paper walrus
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also keep your cards

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all of them are useful

runic bough
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Sorry, what do you mean by "keep"? I just throw all of them into my codex

paper walrus
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yeah

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thats good

runic bough
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Cool, thanks! I'll not worry about main stat pots for now, and just naturally grab them over time. Still have a long way to go with my roster, I'm only at level 102

bold geyser
ocean parcel
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so just hit 1695 on main. not planning on getting 1700s on it. so b=sically done. Question is. Should i push my alt to 1680 now (no express, used it on main), or should i jus asve up all the mats for when i decide to push pass 1700?

tepid ruin
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Guys i did most of my advancing hone, but im missing 15 eye thingys. Is there a way to get it first week or do i have to wait the solo shop reset?

balmy plank
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Do echidna HM

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You get 18 eyes with the boxes

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  • 5 from the auction
balmy plank
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Decide what YOU want to do and work towards that. Both are reasonable options

eternal rain
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is this a chance to drop ?

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Because I did this event

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and I didn't drop it

static jungle
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are aeromancers fun for new players?

dim pulsar
dim pulsar
balmy plank
static jungle
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oh okay, ty, gonna give it a try.

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which one is the lower apm of the two?

dim pulsar
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u can freely swap to both

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drizzle i would say is lower apm

static jungle
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ty

faint cedar
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Drizzle is one braindead rotation

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Wf is builder spender press a lot of buttons

dim pulsar
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kinda same as reflux, RANDOM BULLSHIT GO

torpid marsh
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Death Incarnate is 5 or 10 HM Kaz clears?

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please say 5

indigo breach
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Then probably 10

noble garden
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Hello, i am a returning player and i just claimed the 90 day crystalline aura from my inventory but it didn't work nor activate and i don't see it anymore in my product inventory, can anyone help please ?

dim pulsar
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send screenshot

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gotta be like this

noble garden
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its not in effect yea

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and i had a 90 days aura in my product inventory

dim pulsar
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anything in ur inventory? (NORMAL one)

noble garden
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nothing

paper walrus
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screenshot your inventory

noble garden
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oof its a mess, i just came back haha, 1 second

dim pulsar
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pet/roster/any other storages

noble garden
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asking me or want screenshots ?

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i claimed it from here, it was the top

dim pulsar
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this storage

noble garden
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nada

dim pulsar
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shruge relog game

noble garden
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i did

paper walrus
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you bought a founders pack right

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cause idk where else a 90day couldve come from

dim pulsar
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yeah only here is 90d

paper walrus
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the fk is that currency symbol

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bro is paying in runes

dim pulsar
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PLN bruh

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learn about currencies in world Weirdga

noble garden
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i see this when i search crystalline

dim pulsar
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this is Stronghold feast ticket

noble garden
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and i received silver

dim pulsar
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isnt like THIS what u bought?

noble garden
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that makes sense yes, i got 90 silver chests

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but i had bought it a very long time ago

dim pulsar
paper walrus
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then it wont be there

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aura plus is immediately on when you buy it

dim pulsar
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prolly expired sooo

paper walrus
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the product inventory would only have the potion tickets and silver

noble garden
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ahh alright

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i thought i got scammed

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thank you both

knotty turtle
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Lmao złoty being called runes was actually funny

eternal rain
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?ah

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?av

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?advancedhoning

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?advhoning

buoyant dockBOT
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Optimal Advanced Honing Order
+12 -> 1-10 -> +14 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-40 -> Continue to normal hone.
Calculated with no additional materials (Books & Solars) and full on grace for advanced honing (Scrolls & Solars used on full grace only). Personal costs may vary when using an abundance of these items should you have them. You can estimate your costs using Maxrolls Honing Calculator https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/upgrade-calculator

bold geyser
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should i save all my specials for above +18, even on alts? i have like 8k on one char, and +17 and +18 are 3%/20, aint bad

dim pulsar
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shruge i tap when i can

bold geyser
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hmmmmm

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fuck it we ball

lucid axle
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should i have been saving them

bold geyser
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yall are just smarter than i am 😄

lucid axle
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id say only push alts when you are comfortable with those raids or really high CP

bold geyser
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its my old SE which was my main til not long ago but i'm bad, so i'm tryna get good now that i've had some reps

lucid axle
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all my alts are 1500 with one being 1400 so im pushing them to 1690 for now MAYBE 1700 i see

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not exactly the best in act 4 rn lol

bold geyser
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what isn't

lucid axle
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wdym

bold geyser
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wahts not the best in a4

lucid axle
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oh me

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im poop

bold geyser
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oh lol

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well i haven't learned it yet, so you're miles ahead of me

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keep at it 🙂

lucid axle
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of all my characters im the worst on my main deadge

lucid axle
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otherwise can always wait for next power pass to swap

bold geyser
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gonna try some different builds then, if nothing sticks, come back to what i got now w/ some worldwise exp

lucid axle
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i used to main RE DB but coming back to the game i decided to main DI SH because easier to play

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kinda glad i did that since easier for progs too

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cant see myself progging with RE DB and doing decent lol

bold geyser
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see i dumped my db a long time ago because i was ass, now i expressed her and i'm getting the hang of it

lucid axle
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shes fun once you are experienced with the raid

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otherwise its just a lot of floor pov or waiting because you missed your skills and dont have full guage KEKDog

bold geyser
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i'll work on it 🙂

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held back severely by my pc being a bit old, but that's low down on the list of fixes, so i'll make do with what i have for the time being

lucid axle
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yeah if you do make her a alt i recommend doing it later in your roster if your still building one

faint cedar
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i progged every raid from echidna to kaz on db its fine, class can react well with all the mobility

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as long as youre doing standard and not 8 dmg

molten grove
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it actually makes little diff whether u save ur specials for 18+ or not, at lower tiers the % is higher and specials works best when higher % since theres no pity but lower tiers = worth less per tap so it balanced out in the end

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the game is starting to give +18-20 books, if u wait too long, game will evetually start giving them out in larger quantites. I'd say if u want the alt to get ark grid then special now, dont wait, if u wanna park for long time then i guess u could but everyday u park, ur not getting 1700+ rewards either

bold geyser
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yeah im just sending it 😄

molten grove
# bold geyser yeah im just sending it 😄

i spent 4k specials on my slayer alt yesterday at +16 then im gonna hone the remainder after this weeks reset paradise to 1700, i think this way is the best way, using specials first then hone remainder coz u cant control special rng but with regular honing u can pity

bold geyser
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i got up to 17, gonna see about fixing up some accs in the margins

molten grove
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i bought a bunch of accessories coz they crashed after the solo shop ones, then i realised they were underpriced coz they're tradable, it should never be worth as low as untradable ones so i bought 2 sets for 2 alts then ima sell them once i get the paradise ones of similar quality or higher

faint cedar
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i mean alts you should almost always be taking specials

bold geyser
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i take specials on errbody

faint cedar
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free progression is free progression

molten grove
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its for cases where u didnt get special fusion or honing support boxes

bold geyser
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free progression is free progression mokokoNodders

molten grove
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which is for me is like 50% of the time kek

faint cedar
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most of my rosters progressed through special taps

molten grove
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u either need good rng or infinite patience if u only progress through special taps

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looking at 6months i think

bold geyser
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good thing i have infinite patience 😄

faint cedar
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usually get 1-3 taps per week on each character if i get special hones

lucid axle
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with like 3-4k free taps most of my characters got to around 1685 from 1680

faint cedar
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theres no point in rushing alts

molten grove
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yeah but getting from 1640-1710 on specials requires a significant amount

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of course theres a point, the point is being able to play recent raids rather than stuck on the lamest shit for most of ur playtime

faint cedar
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rather have a few quality characters than rush ilvl with shit combat power

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is the point

lucid axle
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yeah i wouldnt do that

faint cedar
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the more you rush the less quality spread across the roster

lucid axle
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most of my alts are 1500 CP epect one at 1680 and only till now im pushing

molten grove
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the quality is fine it just depends how over gear u wanna be

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at 1700 1700cp is fine u dont need to be 2k

faint cedar
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subjective

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and depends on if you pug or not

molten grove
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i pug and my cp scores are pug lvl

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the most inefficient thing u can do is basically put all ur resource on 1 char and blow it up to 5k cp 1755

faint cedar
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subjective again

molten grove
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its objective

faint cedar
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some people like having a strong character

molten grove
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that char earns 1 char worth of gold

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theres no subjectivity in efficiency only playstyle

faint cedar
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i mean if youre playing for peak efficiency sure

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master of none kinda shi

molten grove
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coz the same 1755 guy end up playing like 20 1640 alts trying to rice farm the 1755

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which is jus stupid

faint cedar
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chances are if someones got a 1755 they are not sitting on a 1640 roster lmfao

molten grove
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i mean if ur not top 10 in tfm then ur master of none anyway

molten grove
faint cedar
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pretty much everyone i know with a character like thats sitting on a main 6 at 1700-1720

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and plenty more with over 10 at 1720

molten grove
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i mean if ur alts r alrdy 1720 then u prolly didnt get there by free tapping only

faint cedar
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gotta remember theres been a lot of powerpasses over the last few years

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i mean my rosters not great, but its good enough for the way ive done it

molten grove
#

jus saying alot of players here spamming jUs fReE tAp bRo ive been doing it for longer than they said it took them, its no where near that fast

faint cedar
#

maybe you just have shit free tap luck

molten grove
#

thats y i said either lucky or insanely patient

#

if ur lucky u can be 1755 on all chars

faint cedar
#

games not going anywhere, and making comparisons is detrimental to having fun in the game

#

you're either patient or broke

#

pick one

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ig you can swipe too

molten grove
#

im not patient and im also not broke so i picked C

faint cedar
#

i swiped for progression once and that shits such bad value lmao

#

but to each their own

molten grove
#

better value t han rice farming but yeah thats y u dont over progress ur main coz soft resets every cycle

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rice farming is the lowest value thing u can do unless ur unemployeed or live in 3rd world country

faint cedar
#

eh my mains chillin, and got another 3 at 1690+ so im content

#

just off of mostly free tapping and events

molten grove
#

oh u only have 3 1690 nvm

#

i thought ur alt roster was at 1700

faint cedar
#

lmao no

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i returned off a 3 year hiatus

molten grove
#

then yeah u can get 10ilvls by free tapping

faint cedar
#

1725 1698 1690 1692 i think

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but i dont swipe bc fuck sg

lucid axle
#

off of only free taps is pretty isane luck lol

molten grove
#

i used to pay $30 monthly to play wow so i think SG deserves $30 a month although i was stingy and gave them $0

lucid axle
#

5 of my alts i used like 3-4k and furthest one i pushed was 1680 from 1687.5

molten grove
faint cedar
#

just depends on the person

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i got 3 free taps on my 1680 in 300 just last week

molten grove
#

avged out across 5 alts of course

#

since the claim is u can just special tap all ur alts to 1700

faint cedar
#

usually get 1-2 from each char each week, pretty rare to hit nothing in that ilvl range

lucid axle
#

thats crazy though

#

its like a 3% chance

molten grove
#

yep

lucid axle
#

for like

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25

faint cedar
#

well you cant truly free tap to 1700, you still need to adv hone

lucid axle
#

paradise aint giving me that much free taps lol

molten grove
#

mathmatically it doesnt look right u have a low chance to even get specials then very low odds to tap something with no pity

faint cedar
#

but 1-20 is piss cheap now so thats basically free as well

lucid axle
#

well yeah if we dont count AH then going to 1690 with +16 gear isnt to bad

molten grove
#

u cant do AH coz thats not free special tapping

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i think u can get to 1680 with free taps only that means no ah, not a single gold spent if u started from day 1 of paradise

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thats about it

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or u get uber lucky u might be able to get 1 to 1700 if ur luck is compounded o nthat 1 char

faint cedar
#

odds are if someones saying they free tapped to 1700 they're including in adv hone

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at least 20

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i start all of my adv hone at 1660 from regular taps

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then free tap gear from 14 on

molten grove
#

yeah if u inc adv honing then 1700 is like +18? +18 is when the odds really start tanking on special honing so ur basically just free tapping the ez part

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which is easily believable

marsh grove
#

I mean

#

with 11-14 and 15-18 books being so easy to get now

#

I save special for 18+ weapon

faint cedar
#

ive hit some disgusting free tap luck, so anything is possible so

marsh grove
#

why use special when I can get free books to tap each time up to 18

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worse value

molten grove
#

but u need consistency when u special hone only

faint cedar
#

my weap went to 20 off of free taps, few hundred from 18-20

#

just depends on ur luck ofc

molten grove
marsh grove
#

depends on your goal

#

I want value out of my special taps

faint cedar
#

you dont need consistency, its about how fast you wanna rush

marsh grove
#

and can fill in the blanks with gold eventually if I really want to

molten grove
marsh grove
faint cedar
#

theres few people that actually make that claim though

marsh grove
#

they're likely doing some AH here and there

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or did a few normal taps here and there

#

its just one of those "I'm self-made" circlejerks that makes people feel good about themselves

faint cedar
#

special honing will always be supplemental

marsh grove
#

most of the time

molten grove
marsh grove
#

I ignore people like that haha

faint cedar
#

easy comparatively to what it was yes

marsh grove
#

not actually ignore but

#

just ignore

faint cedar
#

it actually used to be really difficult to raise alts before paradise

#

and also progress on main

lucid axle
#

how much is 11-20 for AH for u guys?

molten grove
#

it cost my new char 150k of my own money (not from event pass) from 1-1680 total with event pass and saved mats

lucid axle
#

i have a SS of someone who had a spreadsheet for it but the numbers look a little off i feel

faint cedar
#

idk i just tap and full juice 11-20

#

i dont keep track of amount spent

faint cedar
#

then theres factors like how many x3 or x5 you get

lucid axle
#

the SS i have shows 188k for 11-20

#

on average

#

full grace

marsh grove
#

with scrolls off AH and/or breaths it'll definitely be less

faint cedar
#

on a non event character maybe, seems high though

lucid axle
#

yeah non character

#

express is gonna be quite a bit less with x2 thing

faint cedar
#

100-120k for all 11-20 with weapon included i could see

#

rng dependent

lucid axle
#

hmmm

#

maybe pushing alts to 1700 might be for a later time ig

#

ill just free tap my way to 1690

faint cedar
#

well theres no point in rushing 1730 unless you have the cp and resources to fight kaz hm. next breakpoint would be 1720 for armoche hm, which is much more realistic for most avg players

marsh grove
#

no point really pushing 1700 unless your char is geared enough / has title to get into mord HM / act 4 nm

#

slow pushing with free 15-18 books and special honing is fine

bold geyser
marsh grove
#

actually I guess I'm kind of wrong

cause u start getting good stuff from kurzan/guardian

molten grove
#

its hard 2 determine this time coz the new raid requirement is the same ilvl

#

so idk how much progression they gonna help u with

faint cedar
#

tbh armoche nm is basically like brel hm cp requirement equivalent

#

and it unlocks ark grid which is another cp boost

molten grove
#

before it would be obvious they will keep nerfing it till u get 1730 for new raid

faint cedar
#

so going 1700 actually is worth it

marsh grove
#

I don't have x10 kazeros title, and as a 1712 with 2.2k cp I get gatekept all the time

molten grove
#

on armoche nm?

#

that raid is ez as shit

marsh grove
#

of course its easy lol

cyan kiln
#

You also get drex instead of skolakia

marsh grove
#

people like to gatekeep

molten grove
#

ppl still gatekeep on armoche nm>

marsh grove
#

mostly gatekept on kaz nm, but sometimes act 4 as well

molten grove
#

its way easier than brel hm

lucid axle
#

but pretty expensive

lean scroll
#

people gatekeep everything

lucid axle
#

probably will work on engravings for a bit

faint cedar
#

1700 will be the new alt sitting spot likely, just doing armoch nm weekly and collecting cores

#

with that, their cp raises over time

marsh grove
#

yeah the sooner u get 1700 the better

molten grove
marsh grove
#

lower raids getting gold nerf too right?

molten grove
#

kaz nm is actually hard coz some pugs cannot do solo stagger mech

#

like their stagger is jus 2 low

cyan kiln
#

The sorc db parties

faint cedar
#

kaz nm is hard bc theres a billion patterns and ways to lose your life if you dont pay attention

faint cedar
#

i was pumping like 12k on that phase, some dbs are just shit

molten grove
#

kaz nm is hard on front attk and suppots i think as hit master or back attk dps its pretty chill but still way harder than armoche

cyan kiln
#

Then you’re a good stagger db. I’ve seen too many not.

molten grove
#

the issue with armoche nm is the hp is 2 low its supposed 2 get hard during enhanced pattern but he just dies in 10s due to low hp

faint cedar
#

bc some dbs are monkeys and facetank patterns and refuse to use their mobility to dodge so they can greed

#

so they end up on the floor

molten grove
#

db is def a class with very low floor and vey high ceiling

#

some of the worst dpsers i seen were blades

cyan kiln
#

Tbh some people don’t get the stagger phase tho. They hold for guards but guards don’t matter.

faint cedar
#

hitting the counters and staying on your feet is the only thing that matters

#

you can also throw 2 ww per person in that window

molten grove
#

i think the issue with that phase is if u dunno when the counter is and u stand infront of him waiting, u get chunked for alot of dmg so ppl get scared and dont go near his front and dont get the counters

faint cedar
#

well some classes are preconditioned to chase tail, so theyre not in position to counter in the first place

#

but u dont do regular dmg anyway so back attacking is useless, just hit the thing and wait for counter

molten grove
#

the counter on him is very direct front u cant even do it at a slight angle

#

like i had to be dead front 2 get it

faint cedar
#

yeah db counters ass

#

but its doable

#

ive hit him on a slightly off angle a few times and it didnt go off

lucid axle
#

some classes use there counter in there rotation so its also feels kinda ass for some classes to just hold

molten grove
molten grove
lucid axle
#

yeah a lot of classes where its important to there rotation also feels garbo

left prawn
#

hi, any1 knows if solo buff "true supporter" still req to mark the boss/use brand ? or did they change it?

lucid axle
#

im not entirely sure but every sups dps build are all now viable (still low tier though) so you can just follow that

#

how much CP do you usually gain for every 5 books?

shadow pasture
lucid axle
#

oh ty

#

it’s about 20 CP for each so 80 CP max :/

#

though i don’t really have anywhere else better to spend my gold other then ark grid ig

#

or push alts

dim pulsar
#

well, Ark grid is most efficient CP to Gold ratio

shadow pasture
#

Ark grid is best bang for buck

lucid axle
#

but yeah just been tapping blues and holding onto reds

dim pulsar
#

well, u can drop ancient core UwU

#

and min max gemmies

#

ofc more than 17p wont give u THAT much dmg increase

safe patrol
#

is this game doesnt have a discounted winter pack?

dim pulsar
#

plat/gold/other packs are ur "discounted" packs

lucid axle
safe patrol
#

so its not counter for me

lucid axle
#

2 weeks in a row with only legendaries so far

#

bouta be my 3rd im feeling it deadge

dim pulsar
#

cuz these ones we got here are "better" than any other packs we had

lucid axle
#

p2w in this game is not very efficient

dim pulsar
#

this is decent pack for what it gives

lucid axle
#

but it is a option still

dim pulsar
lucid axle
#

oh yeah early on it is

#

but every pack i see now i just don’t see value deadge

dim pulsar
#

for 50$ this pack isnt bad

lucid axle
#

you’re getting like maybe a 2-3 week jump start

dim pulsar
#

we had WAY WAY worse packs with 70/80$ KEKW

safe patrol
lucid axle
#

been f2p outside of character slots so never honestly looked at price for packs

#

just sometimes check what they have

dim pulsar
#

damn a WHALE

fallen hare
#

?progression

buoyant dockBOT
lucid axle
#

ngl they need to make a mokoko express that you can buy from shop

fallen hare
#

?Advancehonin

lucid axle
#

so new ppl can just join whenever

dim pulsar
#

?advhoning

buoyant dockBOT
#

Optimal Advanced Honing Order
+12 -> 1-10 -> +14 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-40 -> Continue to normal hone.
Calculated with no additional materials (Books & Solars) and full on grace for advanced honing (Scrolls & Solars used on full grace only). Personal costs may vary when using an abundance of these items should you have them. You can estimate your costs using Maxrolls Honing Calculator https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/upgrade-calculator

safe patrol
lucid axle
#

instead of having to wait

#

always kinda pisses me off how ppl always have to say to a new player “oh wait till next month we get a juiced event”

safe patrol
#

they need to learn from TnL

lucid axle
#

but ig for now with the silver honing change coming later in T3 it’s not to bad

safe patrol
#

i need destiny stone package tho

lucid axle
#

you’ll get them slowly

#

convert aegir mats to destiny stones if you full ancient gear

#

otherwise it’s just kinda a waiting game

dim pulsar
#

with time u will convert more of these

safe patrol
#

how do u play this class? i just passess this beach

dim pulsar
#

u will just get more than u need

lucid axle
safe patrol
lucid axle
#

uhhh

dim pulsar
#

watch some videos

#

cuz this class is HARD

lucid axle
#

how do you like your classes tough for simple

cyan kiln
lucid axle
dim pulsar
dim pulsar
lucid axle
#

it’s more so the fact that missing is detrimental

cyan kiln
#

I stopped raiding at Brel start but my main roster was Brel ready, then came back in the summer. Destiny stones was pain.

safe patrol
#

i just passes 2 class tho

#

deathbeach and the mage one

lucid axle
#

there’s 4 mage ones Susge

#

one with cards?

dim pulsar
#

pick arcana Kapp

lucid axle
#

one with summons?

dim pulsar
#

cry later

lucid axle
#

one with big fire ball?

safe patrol
#

the one who can summon balls

#

i mean meteor

dim pulsar
#

Sorc

lucid axle
#

sorc then

dim pulsar
#

Reflux>>>>>Igniter

lucid axle
#

sorc is pretty simple

#

DB you have 2 options surge and RE

cyan kiln
#

Tbh arcana is one of the strongest classes in the game but it will take a lot out of you to live up to potential.

safe patrol
#

was thinking to passess the last beach also

dim pulsar
#

she decent

lucid axle
#

RE is probably the hardest class in the game and is punishing if you miss your skills and needs lots of raid knowledge

dim pulsar
#

nah arcana is harder

lucid axle
#

surge is a lot easier and only punishing if you miss your skills

#

and by punishing if you miss you cry

safe patrol
lucid axle
lucid axle
#

in terms of how easy to play though

#

different story

dim pulsar
lucid axle
#

all ik is bard is hardest to play and palidin is easiest to play

dim pulsar
#

sure she isnt BIS OP like bard, but still good

safe patrol
#

i see

lucid axle
#

yeah she’s good both dps and supporting

safe patrol
#

btw is there a place for fastest lvling alt?

dim pulsar
#

no

lucid axle
#

nope same as lvling ur main

safe patrol
#

the main is max already

dim pulsar
#

u can use stronghold Training (with aura u have better xp ratio)

lucid axle
#

oh like lvl lvls

#

just do ur dailies really

safe patrol
dim pulsar
#

idk if u even have it unlocked tho

lucid axle
#

and raids

safe patrol
dim pulsar
#

well it WILL be slow

#

its just GRINDfest

lucid axle
#

outside of express event the only place to buy exp i think is solo shop

#

and it isn’t much

dim pulsar
#

solo/pirate coins

#

and guild shop

safe patrol
dim pulsar
#

i only worry that u will quit (with BIG money into game), cuz bunch of ppl did use 12312+ $$ and just quit cuz couldnt get over with how Grindy it is

safe patrol
lucid axle
#

a lot of ppl are like that

safe patrol
#

its call BDO deadge

dim pulsar
lucid axle
#

they see a mmo swipe a bunch and then cry about why there progression is so slow because they stopped swiping and are in end end game

dim pulsar
#

BDO is trash tho

#

it doesnt respect even ur money

safe patrol
lucid axle
#

honestly getting to end game in lost ark as a MMO isn’t hard but min maxing late game is a whole different story

#

and i’m starting to face it pepeW

#

especially with solo raids up to mordum now

#

add t3 silver honing and chefs kiss

safe patrol
#

14more days right?

lucid axle
#

yup

#

you should probably starting doing bloodclaw

#

it’s even worse

#

idk the % chance of that one map appearing on the boat

#

but it’s not good

safe patrol
#

as long its not 0%

#

theres still had a chance

lucid axle
#

i think it’s like a 2% every 30min

#

took me like 3 weeks i think to do get it

#

and i left mid raid for it lol

#

there’s a chat for it in your server if you click the yellow chat box top left

#

ppl will notify you if they run into it

#

but not everytime someone is checking sometimes you check yourself

safe patrol
#

I see

cloud notch
#

Makes it a lot better

cloud notch
#

Yeah

lucid axle
#

i wasn’t actually sure but the few times i did check and swapped channels no luck

#

wait so if someone says there bloodclaw do they have to specify the channel too?

cloud notch
#

Yes

lucid axle
#

intesting the few times i saw ppl call they never said which channel KEKW

#

so i just assumed that they were all the same

marsh grove
#

channel hopping doesnt help

cloud notch
#

Did they change that? because it used to

marsh grove
#

its been that way for at least 4 months

#

I assumed it's always been that way

cloud notch
#

Ah ok

lucid axle
#

think it was used to because at the start i saw a lot of ppl talking about channel swapping

cloud notch
#

Well just gotta suffer through it then I suppose

lucid axle
#

ngl they need to make that not rng

#

that’s probably the worst part of bloodclaw

#

and it’s stopping 1660 from getting there 4th line of enlightenment

marsh grove
#

it always shows up at the same time so its not too bad to just camp and check

#

annoying tho, yeah

#

I'd rather deal with that than with bad pirate bottle rng

lucid axle
#

i’ve always gotten the bottle before though

marsh grove
#

I was stuck on bottle for close to 2 months on alt account

#

doing stronghold turn in, rapport for coins, unas for 5000 high sea, etc

#

co-op when I could

#

everything

lucid axle
#

i’ve been playing on my friends for fun recently and i got it in the first attempt KEKW

dim pulsar
marsh grove
#

yeah good for you

#

point being that rng on bottle can like actually fk you once pirate coin sources dry up

#

cause its super slow after that

#

vs just havingn to check outside south kurzan here and there for a fragment

lucid axle
#

true

marsh grove
#

hard agree

cloud notch
#

I got 2 bottle fragments of my first purchase

lucid axle
#

idk 1st bloodclaw map needs a update

#

that shit dookie

#

i’m still doing FB one on my friends acc

marsh grove
#

fb has pretty fast pity

lucid axle
#

idk when my pity will hit since i haven’t been counting but it feels like forever deadge

#

i think i’m on a few more?

#

like under 5

#

maybe

#

hopefully

#

once i’m done that it’s just skill points Weirdga

#

god damn ignia tokens

marsh grove
#

im not going to bother with tokens on alt

#

its the difference of level 13 vs 14 on one singular skill

#

for 9 100% tomes

#

cba

lucid axle
#

yeah it’s something i’m debating on just leaving

#

playing on a second account is rough for vertical progression

#

but i like the feeling of building a roster again lol

marsh grove
#

its not too bad

#

enlightenment pot rng can be annoying

#

but aside from that the rest is managable

#

and you can just spam tower for roster level anyways

lucid axle
#

i don’t even do that on my main Susge

marsh grove
#

well it gives bonus exp up to roster 200 so

#

not as useful on a main

lucid axle
#

oh really i didn’t know that

#

perhaps i do some before they remove it

marsh grove
#

its about 1 hr for over 400k exp

#

pretty straightforward

lucid axle
#

his roster lvl looks rat but his characters are at least built

#

abusing mokoko event on his account to find parties

#

but like

#

GOD DAMN i’m not like some mokokos

#

some of them just be dying at the start wanting a free carry

#

had 2 tdy when raiding on my main

vast oriole
#

I prefer them dying than wiping the rest personally

lucid axle
#

ig that’s true but still like what are they gonna do when they don’t have the mokoko event lol

marsh grove
#

well

#

most mokokos are just alt accounts

#

of people that want the gold

#

at least thats what I think

lucid axle
#

for the ones that afk i feel that way

marsh grove
#

especially for aegir hm people will very happily take you

#

and ask you to afk

lucid axle
#

the ones with garbo dmg i excuse cause at least they are trying and understand mechs

vast oriole
#

Like always

#

XD

lucid axle
marsh grove
#

big true

#

as a returnee myself ive been constantly taking L's and eating shit since I came back

#

completely understandable that many people just give up

#

and move on

lucid axle
#

they just want the dopamine of honing

lucid axle
#

what’s ur roster like?

#

like i get into parties that don’t look like rat and half the lobby ends up being rat deadge

marsh grove
#

1712 / 1700 / 1680 x 4 now on main

#

alt will be in a similar spot in a week or 2

#

easy enough to just solo up through 1680 now

lucid axle
#

ok yeah that shouldn’t be to bad though i’m assuming your CP lvl isn’t that high on ur alts though

marsh grove
#

I mean with the solo shop accessories and stuff they're like

#

1400? cp maybe

#

and ive barely touched their karma

lucid axle
#

ok yeah 1400 with karma barely touched is pretty good spot

marsh grove
#

cp doesnt really matter for solo tho

safe patrol
#

where i can find astrogem guide for each class?

marsh grove
#

im just gonna use them to funnel the 2 main chars

lucid axle
#

well yeah true just do solos tbh if ur 1680 and just pub aegir HM ppl don’t care as much there

marsh grove
#

im playing my main 2 acc + my friends old roster as well so

#

idc about more gold from HM

#

I usually just solo

lucid axle
#

some of them have it in there guides some don’t

lean scroll
#

if i start a second roster on same acc on different server.. does that have mokoko?

marsh grove
#

I want to say no

#

I could be wrong though

lucid axle
lean scroll
#

i cant deal with logging out of steam account all the time to switch rosters 😄

#

that's just too much for my sanity

marsh grove
#

its annoying but you can't double up on events anyways

#

like the current juiced express

#

you'd need a different steam account to double up on that

lean scroll
#

oh that's once per acc? not per roster?

lucid axle
#

yeah

lean scroll
#

oof

marsh grove
#

maybe with t3 changes and story express it'll be worth it

#

on same account different server

#

but for now, not so much

#

unless you started like a year ago

lean scroll
#

started with valk release

#

or rather returned

marsh grove
#

same here

#

came back aug 2025 after a 3+ year break

#

the 2nd acc I made then is roster 202 now

#

with some good chars

lucid axle
#

i still feel like a returning player kinda even though it’s been a year KEKDog

marsh grove
#

and I was doing it super casually at the beginning, wasnt expecting it to turn into anything

lucid axle
#

wtf 202

#

tower that op?

marsh grove
#
  • tower
#
  • running your story
lucid axle
#

my mains like 260 lol

marsh grove
#

is all it takes

#

also im still getting 2x exp from tower at 202 so

#

idk what the cutoff is

lucid axle
#

ok story is still a eh for me but maybe i burn through some just for the roster exp

marsh grove
#

I mean roster exp + cards are really big from story

#

especially if you're doing 6x chars

#

but some people can't / don't want to stomach it so

#

to each their own

lucid axle
#

yeah i’ve been skipping a lot of them recently

#

maybe i be slacking to much

marsh grove
#

I never skip south kurzan north kurzan or rimeria

#

too good to skip

#

voldis sucks dingo

lucid axle
#

it just so boring idk

#

should probably watch a show while i do it then ngl

marsh grove
#

yeah I mean it helps to have goals

#

main was pushing 300 so that was a nice goal

#

alt acc the goal was to hit 200 so that was my goal

lucid axle
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tower is just annoying because some of them you actually have to pay attention

marsh grove
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you get used to it

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I was getting gatekept on roster

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and personally I also gatekeep on roster for certain things so

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I decided I wanted my absolute minimum to be 200

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for gold icon

lucid axle
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yeah a lot of ppl gatekeep under like 200

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at least whenever i see below 200 i get a bit sus

marsh grove
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yea

lean scroll
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which is weird honestly, it's not a crime to not have 1000hours in the game 😄

marsh grove
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well the people that actually play this game

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play the fk out of it for a long time

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and that gets reinforced with frontier titles and such

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for more gatekeeping

lucid axle
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yeah idk how

marsh grove
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people want to play with those who have invested as much time/money/gold as they have

or at a bare minimum not get jailed from sus players

lucid axle
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yeah idk my main definitely should be 300+

marsh grove
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not worth worrying about

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after 200

lucid axle
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but idek what to do for it unless i just spam tower

marsh grove
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if you're considering doing tower on a 200+ roster acc then

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just go do other horizontals

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its still exp and actually gives you "progress"

lucid axle
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i have a bunch of alts so def could get close at least

marsh grove
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I have no intention of continuing tower now that im 200

lucid axle
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yeah true but roster lvl has been so slow recently

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once t3 silver honing comes maybe i’ll run some story

blissful folio
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Would be nice to do do 1-20 with silver

vast oriole
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I mean smilegate couldnt even send us the t3 silver honing patch

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They are always late with nerfs so dont expect 1-20 silver before at least another year

lucid axle
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yeah they gonna make 1640-1660 to silver before they do that probably lol

kindred grove
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if I expand a skill preset for 50 crystals it'll unlock for all my roster characters?

queen canopy
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Any idea why this quest didn't complete when i cleared act 5?

vast oriole
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for us, who knows

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prob march or something

queen canopy
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ah, known bug then?

vast oriole
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no

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the epilogue is just not out

queen canopy
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ah ok, thx

neat estuary
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is the "critical" (damage:+12%) a separate bucket, meaning it can be more damage than pulverize if you have a lot of evo damage already?

high stone
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Do you Fuse 3 green astrogems? Or use it with blues or Purple?

balmy plank
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I personally fuse them with a 10 cost blue

safe patrol
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yes mommy

coral perch
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is gold from chaos dungeon box is roster bound? or not?

vast oriole
coral perch
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thanks

vast oriole
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blessed ember is roster bound only

whole fiber
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Need help… because I can’t equip this

balmy plank
whole fiber
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From challenge express

plain sorrel
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Full HD from KR website KEKW

dry pilot
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Can i ask which card sets should i head to for now?

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Alr have 2 sets from express

balmy plank
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The elemental breath & protection sets. Breath for dps, protection for support. They are LOS equivalent but instead of light damage its for lightning/fire/earth/water. Water isnt used atm tho

dry pilot
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which one should i claim first in those breaths?

safe patrol
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fine ill do it myself

balmy plank
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In what way? You need to finish Remeria msq to unlock it if thats what you mean

sullen spire
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hm im 1700 cant farm kaz nm should i save the relic core box until i start farming? or should i get something first to start ark grid up? slayer predator btw

ocean parcel
balmy plank
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The one thats most relevant to your rosters ilvl and the content you do

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You can see what fights are weak to what

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Lightning - Brel & 1720 guardian
Earth - Mordum & Skolakia
Fire - Armoche & Drex

ocean parcel
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Ty

faint cedar
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I forget

balmy plank
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No

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The only reason you would use earth in kaz is if everyone has 30 awakening because support gets a tiny bit for stagger

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Its not better for damage in any way

faint cedar
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Or u can hire 2 gunlancers

balmy plank
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Right, which is why the card set doesnt matter

faint cedar
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I kinda like that stagger check, it’s the only time I’ve actually had to check logs to see what my stagger is

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It’s nice to see one that’s actually important

drowsy idol
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can someone link me the list for Raid weakness?

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like Brel is weak against Lightning?

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cant find it atm

drowsy idol
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this is the old one

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i mean for the newest Raids like brel Mordum