#lost-ark-help
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if you enjoy all your alts id say just do it on one of your main 5 alts
from power pass to 1680 it costed me only 60k so far of my own gold outside of the event
though did get a bit lucky
Yeah, I do. I enjoy Breaker 'least' .. but if I look at my other classes, its not like there is one I'd enjoy more.
I like Arcana, but its pretty sweaty for an alt.
And I enjoy Valk most out of my alts
So I thought using it on her might still be best
yeah if you like them all pretty evenly just do the one youll get the most value out of or enjoy the 2nd most
there isnt much of a gold difference in terms of value if they are all relatively the same ilvl
Gotcha
yeah the books are just a bunch of 11-14
so if anything youll get them for free overtime with solo shop
dont worry about that
Okay, good.
no difference from normal and mokoko event one
I wasnt worrying about the gold .. sure its 120k, but its bound
But when i saw hundreds of 11 - 14 books
I was reconsidering
lol
its mainly this
i just finihsed the event
a lot of 15-18 books
but also can get from solo shop now
I see, okay. Good. Thanks for helping with my concerns 
I see, so the loss in gold from that is also not that massive
What is the best strategy for returning player with no extra honing item, use adv honing 10 and 20 after push all items to 1680? I have already did couple items to adv 10 and adv 5 to get 1670 ilvl since my luck on weapon was bad, did I fcked up or it doesnt matter
tap to 16+ -> AH 1-20
i think
I wanna ask about the express / mokoko event, it says that I will miss out on some rewards if I claim the event using a higher ilvl character,
does anyone have a table of rewards? I have 2 1700 and 2 1680 characters in my weekly raids
how unlucky must i be to run out of destiny destruction stones even during epxress
to minmax progression of the event im not to sure but it doesnt really matter in the long run
What you miss out on is a little bit of extra gold from the express event.
But it's not worth to use on a fresh barebones 1640. Use it on one of your 1680s you like playing to push it to 1700.
got it, thank you!
no problem
If I push an item to 1660 and use adv honing 10 to 1670, when I want to hone this item normally, will it consume the amount of item for 1670 or 1660 base
if its the express char you should follow the progression
+14 to 1660, then ah 1-10 to 1670, then ah 11-20 for 1680, then 15-18
the bosses/missions give you materials in that order
Awesome thanks much!
I think with around 300k? or so extra gold and 500 or so extra fusion I was able to hit 1700 from 1640 in about 3 hrs (now that I think about it I had some extra shards too)
you won't have enough eyes to full AH 11-20 week 1 unless you run 1x Echi HM
I posted on Reddit but has anyone experienced the duplicate login in Lost Ark? I'm currently unable to connect to just thaemine (my server) because of that massive DC NA got hit by and now I'm unable to re-enter the server at all, I can go on Brel or any other NAE server but I'm completely cutoff from Thaemine. I've done the usual : Restarted PC, Restarted internet etc. but I think it's something on their end, but it's really freaking me out that I won't get to run stuff with my static tomorrow...
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I could be wrong then
until which ilvl I can get mokoko tokens from raids?
1699.99 for mokoko token, after 1700 its expert
affects your entire roster
got it, ty
guys is it better to use 100k gold for lv7 gems or upgrading karma ? (assuming its not for the main main skills)
can u use event on an alt collect gems then pass it back to the new char? what ilvl do u need to be to get gems?
Is there a reason I cant open these chests .. ? It says "You cannot use or equip this item"
ah, ok
Which one is best?
don't know the difference between honing support and adv honing support.
Juice mat and the scroll
ah ic, adv is the scroll?
Yeah adv is the scroll

Are u using 1580 key ?
depens what key u used
Lol in this case the scroll is a better option
cant
how can I change my set to betrayl?
Therez no betrayal
That was deleted ages ago
The counter part is the 3 flags with percentages at the top left when you open your war map
If u want chaos build take on preemptive strike in engravings 
I see, ty
anyone know when the maxroll honing calc will be updated for this event?
With the new AH 1-20 nerf .. and now that we have access better to AH tailorings 1-10 .. is it worth it to full juice all the way to save on fusions ? considering AH tailorings 1-10 have to be bought
I still just saved mine you get like 2 bubbles per tap

is this just a "processing complete" moment
or should i get some of the blue tickets from freja island event
and reroll again
but ig theres no point since its maxed already
do i really care about maybe getting more atk power?
feels weird stopping it with 2 more clicks lol
What cp should I be aiming at 1700? What fo you even do to reach it? Books are giga expensive
I forgot to ask about the express event, did anyone keep track on the roadmaps, specifically when will the next class release? Will there be another express during class release, or we have to save the current express?
before the elixir/trans change 1500-1700 was decent
everyone's cp is higher now tho
pretty sure a 1700 rat can hit good numbers now with new buyable bracelet and single high accs from shop
After beating thaemine in express
Ye the thing is I wanna push alts to 1700 but having mixed thoughts about beibg gatekept anyway
do you have HM title? @knotty turtle
for act 4 or kaz
I lead my own groups for NM act 4 and I personally wouldnt take anyone lower than probably 1800cp or so
at this point
I mean for ilvl 1700-1719, not just 1700
I dont, I dont have any 1720 yet kekw, my alt is sitting at 1500cp with 1690, and only 1 karma tree done, maybe I can push 1700cp If I adv hone weapon to 30 + do rest of karma
The lvl 7's are kinda good too ngl
cp are not the most important. Title is more important
yeah I mean I don't have HM title either and yeah
sometimes bozos will gatekeep me from normalmode
despite me being way overgeared
I have and I say what is true
👀
and what if he's overgeared and has no brains and plays as if he was doing raid for the first time?
I know, I had a person like that with AS on hard act 4 and he played like an idiot 
when taking on a person you have to be aware of every scenario
True, many various factors
u can try push to 1700 can get x10 Act4 if u don't have
x10 better than nothing
ppl take x10/Hard title the most
The last stage is already here, so many weeks have passed and most of them are x10
about those accessoirs
Is that single high better than Medium+Low Roll?
Ye the main prob would be getting into to get the 10x

High+low is the same as Mid+mid
so yeah better than medium+low
chest is high % + flat low
pretty sure thats better than mid % + low %
and AFAIK high/low is slightly better than mid/mid
but its like 5cp then, for 30k gold right?
yeah its a small upgrade, if you're doing solo modes it doesnt matter
later down the line people like to gatekeep on accessories and other stuff
depends on the person
dont think so honestly
I forget what last event's accessories were
mid%/low%? or was it mid %/ flat low
when I upgraded 1 to a high/high it gave me 1% cp
either way a mid/low accessory on a 2k+ cp char stinks lol
nah not rly lol
its cheap and u can show me that High+Nothing or Mid+Mid will give huge increase
because it wont.
just realized about the AH 1-20 nerf, specifically 1-10 .. is -70% material discount a typo ?
instead of 7 fusions we need 5
or 6 leapstones we need 4
or 250 blues we need 150
1 mid
again, Im not saying it's a HUGE increase, though I believe its definitely better
the main point being that I can go to a sewer and fish out an accessory better than a mid/low
gold/increase wise its just too bad
how to make gone this EAC thing offline
just tested it on my main now
Mid-Low -> 2888 CP
High (without Low, but the Low Atk flat) -> 2899 CP
So thats +11 CP, i doubt its more than 6-7 on a 2100CP char.
market is cheap for armor if u mean the "Destiny Guardian Stones"
or what item do u mean @novel dirge
u should get bound ones from events aswell
any link/doc that shows solo mode vs NM vs HM rewards?
yeah those, thank you
just check gate info ingame, learned that too
if the bound ones from raids + events + Chaos isnt enough, then market
whats high low flat vs mid mid
better to not buy raid chests if u dont need the main materials
i can tell u how much i lose if i unequip
i have both equipped
no
i mean like just random ass piece
on the other slot
so u just see the change
one with H one with mm
you mean there's a way to see in game how much of each reward you get?
yes sir.
mby dumb question but my chaos dungen only gives me t3 mats, i cant find the t4=
?
oh then midmid is worthless now ig
only useful to sell for money
dont go chaos dungeon, Kurzan Front is the T4 Chaos dungeon
cant know with random item geared tho, i dont have any xd
class decision: I've been playing my sf on and off for a while and as a throwaway alt, I never had really fun, it requires too much thinking and is too complex for me personally. Been thinking about making a scrapper with the current event, thoughts? I want female big tiddy melee fighter that requires no thinking and fucks shit up by pressing buttons
will try to get a cheap one to roll somewhere from the events and cut it for 4k, for science
oh, solo modes way more comparable than i assumed
solo mordum gives 28k thats nice
all bound but whatever
we need bound anyway some of it
so newbies need to etablish a solo raid roster soon :D
i only play 1 char, i know that's like, unheard of in LoA, but i was able to stay HM week 1 ready up through Akkan HM, not sure i'll be able to catch back up, but no interest in alts
well, aside from logging in to go use an awakening skill on a guardian for event coins lol
guardians are more annoying than raids lol
if i ever drop my alts i'd do chaos on them and some solo modes
i do them on a small arena low level, loading screen takes longer, usually 15 seconds run
i see
hard to keep up with events with 1 char, most people with full rosters don't even think about it since you got infinite tokens
from my 6 chars chaos is enough to sustain everything from the shop
how much combat power you get from upgrading a level 7 gem to a level 7 brilliant gem
even full rested
T3 to T4?
t4
or the transform u do at the gem cutter? if thats what u mean, its 0. Its just to cut it to whatever u want, from cooldown to damage and other way around, no cost for switching between skills
o, so brilliant gem does not have an extra stat over the normal gem??
o wow, thansk for the clarification!
be aware it bounds the gem to ur char, u can undo that but it takes 15 days iirc
but u can sell it after that time again if u need to
wtf is death incarnate?
No clue
x5 hard kazeros
someone told me this
this is like CoS from g4 Thae
Prob this is hidden archiv
5 clears of hm
5x hm 2-3
They scraped it also in kr
actually KR got it removed before it even got to us
A single high is better than mid+low
what do i take? gold or elysian?
Gold seems better
i have very good bracelet
just very slightly, so not worth to invest 150k per char for 5cp per acc
A single high is 10k
that makes 60k per char then, but thats even less if it doesnt have a flat roll on it
4cp
?gold
Gold Sources
Tradable Gold is gold that can be used to purchase items from the Market/Auction House as well as be traded to other players.
- Legion Commander Raids
- Kazeros Raids
- Abyssal Dungeons
- Adventure Island Gold Reward
- Fate Embers (gold is withheld)
- Life Skills
- Selling tradeable items on Marketplace/Auction House.
- Content Bids
- Royal Crystal Exchange (gold is withheld)
Bound Gold is used exclusively for progression systems.
- Gold Reward Chests from Una's Tokens
- Mokoko Express Event
- Solo Mode Raids
Same as Bound Gold, but per character
- Seasonal Rewards from Paradise Crucible
- Paradise Hell Chests
- Certain Legion raids, Kazeros raids, Epic raids partial gold is bound
- Abyssal Dungeons partial gold is bound
most likely life skills and adventure island gold, selling on marketplace
those should be the 3 possible good methods for returning players
from that list
so what is go to trans/elixir rn its just master and critical or one of the two + pulverize?
you dont have enough mats ?
kk, thanks
I must be missing something but where on earth is Freja island?
The minigame isnt on an island. You take a portal there from major cities
In the pop out timer thing on the top left, click the locate button and itll point it out in the respective city
are skill preset pages per roster or per character?
Per char
need a help for ticket
for ags ?
I've been playing for 2 months, I managed to get this express pass, but the previous one didn't appear in my account, and a friend who came back to playing a week ago got it. I need help to resolve this.
I understand it expired on Wednesday, but as I said, I didn't get that pass, even though I've been playing for 2 months, it hasn't appeared in my account.
do you have a character that has finished quests up until south rimeria? I remember this was a requirement for previous powerpasses (although that could have changed)
it was changed 2 years ago
and the old powerpass was south kurzan
nvm then xD
so out of curiosity: a completely fresh acc can now get a 1640 character right away as their first char without going through all the old content?
Yes
Thats crazy...but good for inviting a friend to play Lost Ark
No, I had stopped playing the game, I came back 2 months ago, I didn't know about this pass, I just found out now, I've only been playing normally.
The pass should have been in your product inventory for a 1585 ilvl char, but expired as of yesterday either way
Can I get you the email address for Lost Ark support so you can contact them? I couldn't find it.
?support
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Question. What’s the deal with buying the t4 accessories with gold in the shop? Is it better buying from there than buying from auction house
why you want to contact them
Yeah, kinda doubtful you’d get it retroactively tbh
takes bound gold, no pheons required
he wont get it
100%
ty for help
So this is appearing to me, I killed akkan in solo and still cant craft? anyone help
its aegir, not akkan
aegir first boss is called akkan
oh shoot
That's boss from ACT1?
yep
Kill the wrong Akkan 
for the dps
accessories in solo gold shop
What are the DPS ones giving
H/nothing or H/l?
Is anyone else having trouble opening this chest?
"you cannot use or equip this item"
if there any NPC that would trade my leftover red processed chaos stones after i got qual 100 wep?
Bugged atm, something about giving tradeable instead of bound
Thanks for the answer 
Nope
Check the pinned messages, high % and some flats
damn just better to grab one from the market for 15k with H/nothing no?
35 pheons, blue crystal kinda pricey
Kinda
i got no bound gold, so i will have to use tradeable anyway
to gear my express char
with those i guess
u can do solo raids 
but its up to u
im getting it for aura XD
we know
i didnt do the maths
Yeah, like half market value. Good stuff
is it work
now i understand why gems are down
thats why bc was 19k
oh
+lot more accessible lvl 7s for alts
Yup. this is the SpendYourGold patch
I'll farm some solo raids to enjoy myself some gear 🙂
Damn 1680 is such a good spot now for trash chars
solo mordum+solobrel+soloaegir
?advhoning
Optimal Advanced Honing Order
+14 -> 1-10 -> +16 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-30 -> 31-40 -> Continue to normal hone.
- Honing to +20/31-40 are comparable in cost but with normal honing you're gambling with 1.5% odds and advanced honing provides 3% base stats. Because of this finishing advanced honing first is recommended.
Hmmm need to update that
did maxroll updated tho
Just checked, and nope
they sooo slow with updates
Idk if taking the maxroll numbers and just dividing by 90%/50% etc will realistically reflect the new numbers. I forget probability from college 
hey i sorta kinda got deleted my neklece, where can i get anotherone?
wdym deleted?
which one?
this? or relic?
u can get "new" in solo shop (or buy ancient with GOLD in gold shop)
the accesory one
i thought it was tier 3 loot becuse i did a t3 chaos and then deleted it
xd
dumb
ctr right click if you wanna lock an item, takes 1hr to unlock but will prevent that stuff from happening again
u dont need to lock shit, if u USE accessories on urself
got it, thank you 😄
my friend managed to delete his bracelet, noticed when he dropped like 100cp 
You dont need to lock anything, but just lock it
Then it never happens
Locking never hurts you
I was told to ask here. Once I hit 1680, is it worth trying to roll accessories? Or just go ahead and buy cheap once on market place with the stats I want? Support main but will probably need DPS accessories too
Gold shop is the auction house right?
selection is pinned here
Oh. The new shop? Those gives the stat I need?
does gem really sold on AH?
When do I start spending to roll for good accesory?
for new? u shouldnt
if u have spare 1512k gold u can roll
but u dont
Okay. Save gold for honing and alts. Got it.
So just DE all the accessory I get then?
u can roll silver ones from hell chets
u can keep all acc that are above 67 quality
But storage….
4 slots here + 1 bonus
u wont be LOCKED out of storage
and thats PER char storage
Oh. WTH, they’re that rare???
i just dismantle everything now. prices are so bad unless high mid or high high
yea ig
Maybe I’ll DE everything below 80 if storage starts filling up
real issue is those SHARDIES to tap
all below 70
10-4 thank you
Returning player. What rewards will I not be able to obtain if I use the event on my 1700ilvl character?
GOLD
How much?
I mean do you know the total figure?
all quests are pinned
just check
btw its gold u would be HONING with, but if ur at 1700 u dont need that gold
thats how ags/sg thinks
reward box is juicy so do ur stuff
I only miss gold right? Nothing else that would be relevant for a 1700ilvl character
I am not really up for raising another character tbh
Especially because the new class comes soon and I'll probably want to waste my stuff on her.
Thanks for the info
new char will get her own pp+express
Yeah I saw. There is a juiced paid track too right?
kr got that, we might or might not get that
i mean is the cp even that big of difference between mm vs H
huh high flat is that bad huh
if u can buy m/m for 50k and single H only for 35-40k, better go with m/m
H%+High Flat weapon/atk is good
ye but it cost pheon
thats issue
whats why 30k for gold ones is nice
is pheon
just buy these and ur set
proly something on par with m/m
cuz they have H/low flat/low flat
?AdvHoning
Optimal Advanced Honing Order
+14 -> 1-10 -> +16 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-30 -> 31-40 -> Continue to normal hone.
- Honing to +20/31-40 are comparable in cost but with normal honing you're gambling with 1.5% odds and advanced honing provides 3% base stats. Because of this finishing advanced honing first is recommended.
this is NOT UPDATED
dont follow it for now
Oh okay okay !
ye for alt ig not worth going HM if it isnt lucky tap from hell now
if some maths is correct it can be +12->ah10->+14->ah20->normal to 18->ah30-40
I was here to understand first how to unlock advance honing haha, don't have on my event boost character
Ah is unlocked by doing G1 Echidna
Oh really, so when the event asks me to do it at 1660gs, i have to first go G1 echidna ?
Thanks a lot, u're so fast and helpful haha
event "echidna" is only G2, it doesnt unlock shit
hello~ I am a returning player(last time played was like 2+ years ago). Roster lvl 80 and the highest ilvl character was 1310. I used the event pass for free 1640. Finished the 1st chaos and solo guardian. Now I am lost. Should I do all available roster quest and main quest? Is there any check list or priority list to what to focus?
?quickstart
Quickstart Info 
So you just powerpassed?
- Visit Lostark.nexus to find your class guide. Using that guide set up...
- Skills (K Menu)
- Skill Runes
- Engravings (P - Engraving tab)
- Ark Passive (P menu - Ark Passive in bottom left)
- Gems (Refacet for free at Gem NPC)
- Dismantle settings here
- Complete Arkesia Tour (Icon Beside Minimap)
- Use Tour rewards (skill points & runes) to improve on your class build
- Collect & Read Engraving books (20 Yellow Legendary books x5 engravings)
Engraving books can be obtained various ways through many various NPC exchanges, event shops & event handouts
The Arkesia Tour will have you complete a number of simple quests and reward you with a large amount of horizontal & collectable completion including more skill points & addition skill runes to help your build.
If a Mokoko Express is ongoing, activate it from an icon beside your minimap. It will provide free items to help with the process above as well as provide things like honing support to make progression easer. There is only 1 Mokoko Express per region so choose your character carefully!
Congrats, you now have a functional build to start trying activities like daily Chaos Dungeons, Guardians & weekly Solo Raids.
For any questions you can visit: #lost-ark-help Check the pinned comments!
Pick up class roles from id:customize to get access to class specific channels and info.
Use command /class name to link any class guide from Lostark.nexus. (Example, /slayer)
You can use the ?guides command for a variety of video & written guides.
- Arkesia Tour (if still not done)
🙏 thank you
they nerfed them
clear faster with 0 gatekeep?
hey is it normal that i cant open this chest?
with REAL mats to get u higher
BUGGED
Oh. that's a bonk
What do you mean take ages ? They are super fast to run
he mean it took them 1 year to get us BREL
I feel like its taking way longer to clear them rn even since patch
act2/3 dont have INSANDE sidereal dmg
No I mean they bosses seem tankier
act1 is bugged with that
Oh well thats director Bozo strategy to force group raid to get gatekept then swipe
ofc they are tankier, higher ilvl raid, more dps needed
did u equip your new evo node thingies?
They should do a solo HardMode tbh to the latest raid
with dmg reduction phases too
Brel has 20B hp
thats good, i wont kill her in 3min
thats fun
shes still JOKE in terms of what she do, but yeah
it's prob b/c she doesnt go into dr mode a lot or disappears straight up like aegir
Oh i reply wrong comment lol, i am not sure it is that slow
its just longer than expected
i mean tbf

I mean they straight up just deleted alot of the mechs

normal raid g2 brel takes like 8-10min, solo is like 6min top
The solo raid when released in last year July, was harder than it is now
11
that's what i was commenting
Curent solo raid nerf too much
not having x425 in mordum is WAR CRIME
yeah
but x2 the hp xD
I was surprised to see my hyper awak didnt even hurt the boss
aegir moves with cutscenes when u CANT dmg him so
but now once u drop boss's hp to 0
no more mechs
I skipped the stagger and all that on aegir
i mean u do gain a bunch of dmg from
completing your evo tab
no, mechs still here (its only for g1 aegir that he dies)
while for aegir its assumed u dont have those points
oh i see
Didnt they say smth about once boss drops to 0 the fight ends?
i still had to watch g2 aegir to do his shit
its not here
its just weird g1 aegir does this
didnt they change it ?
This company walks mysterious paths i must say
Aegir solo is very easy, i run with Tier 3 gear and beat it pretty fast tbh nerf too much
yeah
what
o wait
i was just surprised to see brel have x2 more hp
you cant use t3 gear for aegir
that is in kr
you mean accessories
when u barely gain power from 1660 to 1670
"barely" sure sure
I mean the power u get from 1670 is with karma
Remove your tier 4 gear when you get in
T5 Evo gives me 200CP thats GIGA
masochism
CP is not dmg
Wanna test how nerf it is lol
well, u would be surprised, but it is
tbh it is kinda is for this one cause it is imo better than elixir increase
more concrete buff
but not all the time

Aegir gear unlock u this, and this gives u 200cp (for me) and Bunch of DMG
i mean it's the same for aegir...
it takes longer if u dont have ancient t4 armor
but
aegir was JOKE even at release to introduce us to new t4 gear
it's kinda "fixed" b/c the sidereals
do so much dmg
but if they didnt, it would feel similar
only for us because wqe had hyper and T from the start XD
kinda true, but still was joke
t skill is such solo game changer tbh i cant imagine raiding without it
tried doing akkan without t skill and it wasnt fun on my ilvl back then
yeah the sidereals do too much
before side and after side
I mean im not complaining, just questioning
its better that the fight takes longer
so people can be more familiar with patterns
yeah, its ONLY bugged in ACT1
yeah
i know
i was just pointing out
how much of the dmg dealt
is sides in aegir
u dont have to even use them, and u will see that Aegir takes 5-6min without them too
cries in pre patch without trans and elixirs
3 mins with Valkyrie 
try with 600cp
Probably still fast she got a damage buff that does not suppose to be there
fire for g2 armoche
fire set for act4 g2, u can use earth for g1 kaze?
some people use earth set for kazeros but hes not weak to anything
lightning for brel
earth for g3 mordum
fire for g2 armoche
earth for kaz (optional)
earth for mordum g3
earth for kaze only cuz supp set gives them more stagger
for flame key in hell can anyone explain it?
i just clear until i die once then claim?
fire/frost keys, tells you if you die on even/odd floors. You die x2 without bonus life floors and you lose loot. Most people go until you die once then back out for loot.
I see the challenge express quests for rewards. Is there an equivalent for the mokoko express or is that just honing bonus?
u pick shield one if u dont have heal from s1
its kinda crazy you cant get a healing orb anymore
If you were to buy one of the batte pass or crystalline aura which is the better value?
shield feels so bad tbh
like it doesnt last long

Ark pass >>> aura
i think shield from freaking shout of hatred last longer

it is like as short as CGL shield
it is what it is
u play shield or some low dmg orb

By the time you get enough pp to not be a joke you will get all orbs anyway
The shield one is just the most "ethical" one
fomo...
how do you get the event shop currency for makoko bootcamp shop?
Raid with someone with the mokoko bootcamp leaf icon. It apears in party finder
Gotta do raids with other people
The leaf person gets mokoko tokens, the others get the vet tokens for their respective shops
You should be a lead yourself so you have nearly free entry
Even if you don't know the raid people will use you and toss you after accept you and carry you
Veterans just want the coins while doing their homework
And since the event just started basically (since we only got the express and there's a lot of mokos now) take advantage of your powers
thank you
Do people not do these ? Been sitting for another 10min before this too
lol I forgot to not go though the ice on the hill lol total brain fart
all endgame raids r via party find
thats almost 4y old abyss, no1 does this crap
sucks because I only need 150 destruction stone fragments to go to 1100 and I already did my daily chaos and guardian
tower
do guardians again
u havent used power pass?
you get a small amount of stones
whats your server
they drop again ? I thought it was only the daily soul and if u do it again nothing drops
ratik
unlucky
matchmaking is locked to servers ?
you get like pennies but it drops
no she was trying to sponsor you
no, but i wouldve sent you the mats
with trade
oh lmao
to region, but no1 does anything below 1640 now
Event shop should have
And he should got event shop currency already
Well yeah pp1640 no one on the right mind would do it
Event shop icon top right
From square 1
Washed up mods is the issue here
ok you be mod
Haha, no, I don't wanna be washed up and stinky
just stinky
I still have smellyness from the forced helper role a year ago or so
I blame paper and fire for that
you probably shouldnt have opened all of them
It's extremely old materials so yeah you get a lot of
I dont remember if after 1100 we still use the fragment ones or go up
alr
what happened to your powerpass

use the last week one on a souleater and the new one havent used yet

Rip pp then
i wanna keep my main powerpassless
Ah yeah I guess it was the dude I told to use the pass but to get out of trix
Main should be pp
So he can do all quests instead of losing some due to pass

Y'all jealous he enjoys the game instead of us tryhard degens
is it that bad ?
no, i joke
its a progression game and you're choosing to slow your progression on your main
To even get to t4
like now im 1100, is it rlly that far from the max rn ?
Yes very, read above
it's just a lonely grind, which, if you're having fun, isn't a problem 😄
for ref 1680 is considered low now
You'll take around 3 months to get out of tier 3
mains are at 1720-1740
We should be getting a new update which makes all of this irrelevant immediately
I picked a relic core from the free selector to find out that I needed a different one. Can I somehow change the core for a same rarity with different effect?
should
no
But we don't have that update, supposed to come here by yesterday, but it didn't, so newbies are fucked
u pay for ur own mistakes
That's why they gave a powerpass and an express tied to it
how do i get the expert tokens for the event shop
be not a mokoko
It's up to you to enjoy the game for what it is and suffer later or go straight to the end game and raid
dont do it
do group raids with a mokoko in the group
yeah im just gonna use powerpass then, i enjoy grind but i like grass too
It's not even a grind
thats fine too
It's a forced halt and there's nothing you can do about it but pay up
Tldr you don't and you shouldn't
is itm lvl just do ur dailies and weekly and hone rinse and repeat ?
wot
kinda, but thats like 10% of all
some raids unlock new gear for reset or advanced honing but yeah
Uhh yes, which is like the same at a higher lv, but at a higher lv you have big boi raids, which is why we play this game
weekly quests, paradise, daily rep quests, raids, adventure tome, horiznotal grind any many more
later
I suggest something
Hey do we know now at which ilevel should we start AH? I'm 1660 right now wondering when to AH...
Make a class you really love and use all the events on it
?advhoning
Optimal Advanced Honing Order
+14 -> 1-10 -> +16 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-30 -> 31-40 -> Continue to normal hone.
- Honing to +20/31-40 are comparable in cost but with normal honing you're gambling with 1.5% odds and advanced honing provides 3% base stats. Because of this finishing advanced honing first is recommended.
Leave that low lv char as it is and do story slowly
Okay my next question then, are there any other ways to get selector for relic cores?
200 shards
exchange at npc
well, its still to be corrected
yeah I wanna do the big ass raids too that's why I came back, saw a random video of a korean guy doing the kazeros raid or whatever it's called and I wanted to play
start advanced honing earlier
Or wait until we get the actual tier 3 patch so you can do story fast and with no hindrances
Lmao
+12 normal-ah10-14 normal-ah20-rest
Kazeros is the literal latest raid
You would take several months if you never passed
Powerpassed *
months
that would be 1y+ without pp
So yeah just make a new char, use all on it and fly high
and without express
so if I decide to use the latest powerpass I should create another character and not do it on the one im using rn ? the 1100 one
welp new story will be proly at 1700 (soft reset)
u can use it for that char, or new one
if you dont care and want to main then pp the one you have
Assuming you care about the story later on
depen if u want to follow with story with that one or no
You can make the same class
You can make any char you want
It's literally just for the sake of story on the low one and raiding on the new one
It's not hard
Even if I myself read the story and all that shit I can't recommend you to do it slowly manually with no help as of now
It's plain out ball torture
Until the tier 3 rework comes
yeah im gonna just create the same character and make it my main same class same everything
Which we have no idea when will it come
@balmy plank
12 10 14 20?
yeah
tho i'm checking the gold efficiencies rn sinc ei forgot to check if that does anything wei5rd
sec
It would be best if we tell them what the express wants them to do as well
Since the express gives scrolls for AH at specific thresholds
So one part of event and one for alts without it
but free
Some but not all
i'm 13 now, so should I start AH ?
And we know people are dumb and use them in every tap
Sorry this game is 18+
Oh you mean hone level
?

@bold geyser
We are literally talking about that rn
So wait for the math guy to throw the maths
change advhoning command to 12 1-10 14 11-20
unless thats a fire thing
its fire that needs to do it
I cant but I can ask Fire to. We know thats what is is now? What about 21-40?
I believe it's Braden's original command so I pinged him
same, 21-40 isnt changed
still kinda same, cuz 3% bonus
21 to 50 didn't get any change at all
u only tap 19/20 with books, and they are not common
Bitch I mean witch will drop them frfr
dont feel like searching, reposting
btw is there any manipulation I have to do to make a character my main or the game considers them all the same ? I know of the main char option in the selection but it says it's to prevent character deletion
all the same
alr
whoever is your roster lead is the one that can't be deleted till you delete all your other characters but the game treats them all the same when it comes to raiding and progression
alr ty
so it's actually, for NAE this particular moment if i'm not tripping, hone to +12, AH 1-20, hone to +14
The normal honing doesnt add up to me. Unless im missing something
ehhh
I would hone 11-14 then ah 1-20
i leant the mechanics and defeated lazaram!
i did optimal 
since you can buy shit from the solo shop
welp optimal to alts, express isnt for "optimal" rewards
assuming ur NEW, u cant buy much from solo
its just a spreadsheet i can literally wipe out the whole thing to change something if you prefer
so express chars are like +14->ah10?maybe20->18
whats the first thing i should do after powerpassing
oki
I would gander so
where do i actually see which spec i have activated
it used to be all on engravings
I have no problem with your spreadsheet im just trying to make sure its all correct. Im trying to math out 31-40 too & noticed my normal honing numbers are diff. I dont know if you were concidering the express or not
press period
his maths is based on NO express (just nerfs to ah)
enlightenment tree
i am not, this is supposed to just be generic
gonna go through and do everything manually rq
lostark.nexus <ur class> copy all
Idk, maxroll just shows diff numbers for normal honing
Im not concidering books. Just standard cost
if you think the whole thing should be with 0 extra materials, i can just do it like that
i didn't think that was practical given the state of things nowadays w/ solo shop and other freebies
I did optimal and full on grace. But even adv honing shows different numbers for me
adv isnt updated here
Oh thats full send every time
181 scrolls is a lot
Idk, even full maxroll shows diff
Idk, idc Im going back to arc
If someones wants to do something feel free. Otherwise ill check later
Why do we assume full scrolls even, is it cheaper
i'm just sayin 
who tf buys market scrolls?
When I did the first one the idea was straightforward basic honing. I didnt want to include a bunch of * first farm solo shop * get scrolls from events *do this/that etc
updating everything to the literal latest numbers, but its tryna catch smoke when the market moves, you're getting close enough
For the challenge express, does it matter what engraving I get? Should I pick grudge?
can anyone help me figure out how i should hone going forward i totally fked up the advanced honing i know but trying to fix it. Should i jsut wait to hone the pieces with alcaone's eyes?
im 1696 ilvl
thats also going to take many weeks to get enough eyes im assuming
you can buy eyes in the solo shop
if you're talking about from the selector, dont grab anything until it would give you 5 of something and actually matter
+18 all and AH +20 all is usually the way to go for 1700
wdym pick? u pick lege x5 that ur char uses
i did but its not many?
its not many
we calculate cost wise
we know its +18/ah20 to get 1700
Yeah I have 10 books. Do I get 5 grudge so it’s universal across characters?
i can just leave it at no extra materials if you like 😄
are you talking about the books from express?
if its lege ur supposed to get full books (lege)
each one auto levels the engraving to legendary
Yes
you have 5 legendary engravings to pick
Oh
its 20 books per 1 express engr
i'll do that, and show the diff
ehat scroll
ok but for example a piece is like this
ohhhhh
do i jsut hone this to 18 and 18 everythign else
wait
how do fer gear upgrade effect?
what is the question?
i only sell those
my gear is all fked up with the advanced honing i did it all wrong i want to know what is the best way to hone now
theres no way to do it wrong
u did ah30
Tf you mean wrong
it only goes up, theres no way to do it wrong, just in a different order
just hone everything till it matches
?advhoning
Optimal Advanced Honing Order
+14 -> 1-10 -> +16 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-30 -> 31-40 -> Continue to normal hone.
- Honing to +20/31-40 are comparable in cost but with normal honing you're gambling with 1.5% odds and advanced honing provides 3% base stats. Because of this finishing advanced honing first is recommended.
The "old" needs to include the previous nerfs
For example for shards, it was 20% reduction, now it's 90%
u just tapped AH30 before normal +18
sounds like you just need to start running some hard echidnas?
is it 90% of last week, or 70% reduction from original cost
or wait for solo shop renew
yea but i dont have enough eyes for like 4 pieces ill have to wait
how many do you get in ahrd?
i do solo
wdym upgrade?
nah solo echidna doesn't give the eyes
normal honing or what?
its either hard or solo shop
this?
ye
thats from kayangel
the fk is that
neither
to get the original value, you need math
1 / 0.8 = 1.25 -> original value
1.25 * 0.1 = 0.125 -> current value (december patch)
ummm dont ya have it maxed now?
idk i never paid attention thats why am confused
lemme check my fresh valk
she has full lvl3
with powerpass gear
if U DONT have this, u gotta run Kayangel to get mats
so another 70% reduction, okay 🙂
i'll update everything with NO ADDTIONAL MATERIALS then we can litigate that too
and tap lvl3 with this npc
no it's not a 70% reduction
it's not additive 😄
changing the 20% reduction to a 90% reduction
lemme check afrer i am done feom work ig
if we compare current value to the one from before the patch it's
0.125 / 0.8 = 0.15625
So a 84.375% reduction
aaaaaaaaaaaaa why u ask things when ur not at ur char aaaaaaaaaaaa

same thing happened with my glaiv too

