#lost-ark-help

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spring wave
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Ah .. I'm not sure it's worth using this on my Valkyrie .. This is what my alts look like. I'm hesitating now, cause I see a ton of honing books in there .. but not sure what to do. My lowest char is 1660, which is also already quite high.
It would obviously be most efficient to use it on a new char .. but yeah, Idk.

lucid axle
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if you enjoy all your alts id say just do it on one of your main 5 alts

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from power pass to 1680 it costed me only 60k so far of my own gold outside of the event

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though did get a bit lucky

spring wave
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Yeah, I do. I enjoy Breaker 'least' .. but if I look at my other classes, its not like there is one I'd enjoy more.
I like Arcana, but its pretty sweaty for an alt.

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And I enjoy Valk most out of my alts

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So I thought using it on her might still be best

lucid axle
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yeah if you like them all pretty evenly just do the one youll get the most value out of or enjoy the 2nd most

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there isnt much of a gold difference in terms of value if they are all relatively the same ilvl

spring wave
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Gotcha

lucid axle
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so if anything youll get them for free overtime with solo shop

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dont worry about that

spring wave
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Okay, good.

lucid axle
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no difference from normal and mokoko event one

spring wave
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I wasnt worrying about the gold .. sure its 120k, but its bound

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But when i saw hundreds of 11 - 14 books

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I was reconsidering

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lol

lucid axle
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its mainly this

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i just finihsed the event

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a lot of 15-18 books

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but also can get from solo shop now

spring wave
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I see, okay. Good. Thanks for helping with my concerns POPOcat

marsh grove
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11-14 books were like 50-150g for awhile

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are probably still cheap

spring wave
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I see, so the loss in gold from that is also not that massive

lucid axle
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yeah before this event they were dirt cheap

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sub 100 last time i bought i think

lean pelican
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What is the best strategy for returning player with no extra honing item, use adv honing 10 and 20 after push all items to 1680? I have already did couple items to adv 10 and adv 5 to get 1670 ilvl since my luck on weapon was bad, did I fcked up or it doesnt matter

hasty quartz
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I wanna ask about the express / mokoko event, it says that I will miss out on some rewards if I claim the event using a higher ilvl character,
does anyone have a table of rewards? I have 2 1700 and 2 1680 characters in my weekly raids

cerulean trellis
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how unlucky must i be to run out of destiny destruction stones even during epxress

lucid axle
slate geyser
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But it's not worth to use on a fresh barebones 1640. Use it on one of your 1680s you like playing to push it to 1700.

hasty quartz
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got it, thank you!

slate geyser
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no problem

lean pelican
marsh grove
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+14 to 1660, then ah 1-10 to 1670, then ah 11-20 for 1680, then 15-18

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the bosses/missions give you materials in that order

lean pelican
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Awesome thanks much!

marsh grove
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I think with around 300k? or so extra gold and 500 or so extra fusion I was able to hit 1700 from 1640 in about 3 hrs (now that I think about it I had some extra shards too)

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you won't have enough eyes to full AH 11-20 week 1 unless you run 1x Echi HM

marsh halo
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I posted on Reddit but has anyone experienced the duplicate login in Lost Ark? I'm currently unable to connect to just thaemine (my server) because of that massive DC NA got hit by and now I'm unable to re-enter the server at all, I can go on Brel or any other NAE server but I'm completely cutoff from Thaemine. I've done the usual : Restarted PC, Restarted internet etc. but I think it's something on their end, but it's really freaking me out that I won't get to run stuff with my static tomorrow...

fallen hare
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?progression

buoyant dockBOT
split kayak
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uhh

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why the weap cannot temper?

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sry im clueless about this ah

marsh grove
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the name is different

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its lower ilvl? not upgraded?

split kayak
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eh peeb

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how do i upgrade it?

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it's at 1620 tho

marsh grove
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I could be wrong then

kindred grove
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until which ilvl I can get mokoko tokens from raids?

marsh grove
split kayak
versed tulip
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guys is it better to use 100k gold for lv7 gems or upgrading karma ? (assuming its not for the main main skills)

molten grove
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can u use event on an alt collect gems then pass it back to the new char? what ilvl do u need to be to get gems?

spring wave
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Is there a reason I cant open these chests .. ? It says "You cannot use or equip this item"

marsh grove
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broken

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fixed at a later date TBD

spring wave
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ah, ok

queen canopy
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Which one is best?

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don't know the difference between honing support and adv honing support.

plain sorrel
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Juice mat and the scroll

queen canopy
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ah ic, adv is the scroll?

plain sorrel
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Yeah adv is the scroll

queen canopy
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why am i getting T3 items when i'm T4

shy chasm
plain sorrel
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Are u using 1580 key ?

fallen jasper
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depens what key u used

queen canopy
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aha, that explains it

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ty

plain sorrel
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Lol in this case the scroll is a better option

queen canopy
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i was 1595 before powerpass

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to late now lol

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ah well, can change em at vendor

marsh grove
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cant

queen canopy
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oh

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crap lol

kindred grove
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how can I change my set to betrayl?

shy chasm
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Therez no betrayal

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That was deleted ages ago

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The counter part is the 3 flags with percentages at the top left when you open your war map

fallen jasper
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If u want chaos build take on preemptive strike in engravings UwU

kindred grove
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I see, ty

lucid axle
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anyone know when the maxroll honing calc will be updated for this event?

steel wadi
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With the new AH 1-20 nerf .. and now that we have access better to AH tailorings 1-10 .. is it worth it to full juice all the way to save on fusions ? considering AH tailorings 1-10 have to be bought

marsh grove
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I always full scroll all my AH

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juice depends on how much extra ive got

shy chasm
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I still just saved mine you get like 2 bubbles per tap

primal herald
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is this just a "processing complete" moment

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or should i get some of the blue tickets from freja island event

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and reroll again

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but ig theres no point since its maxed already

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do i really care about maybe getting more atk power?

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feels weird stopping it with 2 more clicks lol

knotty turtle
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What cp should I be aiming at 1700? What fo you even do to reach it? Books are giga expensive

hasty quartz
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I forgot to ask about the express event, did anyone keep track on the roadmaps, specifically when will the next class release? Will there be another express during class release, or we have to save the current express?

marsh grove
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everyone's cp is higher now tho

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pretty sure a 1700 rat can hit good numbers now with new buyable bracelet and single high accs from shop

knotty turtle
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After beating thaemine in express

knotty turtle
marsh grove
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do you have HM title? @knotty turtle

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for act 4 or kaz

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I lead my own groups for NM act 4 and I personally wouldnt take anyone lower than probably 1800cp or so

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at this point

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I mean for ilvl 1700-1719, not just 1700

knotty turtle
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I dont, I dont have any 1720 yet kekw, my alt is sitting at 1500cp with 1690, and only 1 karma tree done, maybe I can push 1700cp If I adv hone weapon to 30 + do rest of karma

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The lvl 7's are kinda good too ngl

fallen jasper
marsh grove
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yeah I mean I don't have HM title either and yeah

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sometimes bozos will gatekeep me from normalmode

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despite me being way overgeared

fallen jasper
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I have and I say what is true

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👀

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and what if he's overgeared and has no brains and plays as if he was doing raid for the first time?

knotty turtle
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Its just what if

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Same way as he could let his friend pilot or bought bus

fallen jasper
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I know, I had a person like that with AS on hard act 4 and he played like an idiot Binoculars

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when taking on a person you have to be aware of every scenario

knotty turtle
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True, many various factors

fallen jasper
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this is the biggest problem of this game

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ngl

fallen jasper
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x10 better than nothing

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ppl take x10/Hard title the most

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The last stage is already here, so many weeks have passed and most of them are x10

heady wasp
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about those accessoirs
Is that single high better than Medium+Low Roll?

knotty turtle
fallen jasper
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so yeah better than medium+low

heady wasp
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but its High+Nothing in the chest

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so Mid+Low is better?

marsh grove
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chest is high % + flat low

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pretty sure thats better than mid % + low %

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and AFAIK high/low is slightly better than mid/mid

heady wasp
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but its like 5cp then, for 30k gold right?

marsh grove
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yeah its a small upgrade, if you're doing solo modes it doesnt matter

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later down the line people like to gatekeep on accessories and other stuff

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depends on the person

heady wasp
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well 5cp is even too small for 30k

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im 2000+ for alts

marsh grove
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if ur already at 2k it'd probably be more than +5 cp

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but I hear you

heady wasp
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dont think so honestly

marsh grove
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I forget what last event's accessories were

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mid%/low%? or was it mid %/ flat low

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when I upgraded 1 to a high/high it gave me 1% cp

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either way a mid/low accessory on a 2k+ cp char stinks lol

heady wasp
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nah not rly lol

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its cheap and u can show me that High+Nothing or Mid+Mid will give huge increase

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because it wont.

steel wadi
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just realized about the AH 1-20 nerf, specifically 1-10 .. is -70% material discount a typo ?
instead of 7 fusions we need 5
or 6 leapstones we need 4
or 250 blues we need 150

indigo marten
marsh grove
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again, Im not saying it's a HUGE increase, though I believe its definitely better

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the main point being that I can go to a sewer and fish out an accessory better than a mid/low

heady wasp
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gold/increase wise its just too bad

safe patrol
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how to make gone this EAC thing offline

heady wasp
novel dirge
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hey what the best way to get the blue t4 crytals

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to hone

heady wasp
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market is cheap for armor if u mean the "Destiny Guardian Stones"

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or what item do u mean @novel dirge

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u should get bound ones from events aswell

neat estuary
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any link/doc that shows solo mode vs NM vs HM rewards?

novel dirge
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yeah those, thank you

heady wasp
heady wasp
indigo marten
heady wasp
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better to not buy raid chests if u dont need the main materials

heady wasp
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i have both equipped

indigo marten
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i mean just use other piece for control

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duh

heady wasp
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u mean to cut one?

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dont have one RN

indigo marten
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no

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i mean like just random ass piece

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on the other slot

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so u just see the change

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one with H one with mm

heady wasp
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where would i get that from Rn without paying any gold

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xd

indigo marten
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Weirdga or just
leave the slot blank

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u dont neer 2nd slot

neat estuary
heady wasp
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i mean its 2cp difference unequipping each other

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cant be high lol

neat estuary
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oh, "gate info" button, icic

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ty

novel dirge
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?

indigo marten
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oh then midmid is worthless now ig
only useful to sell for money

heady wasp
heady wasp
novel dirge
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oh...

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haha mb sry

thorny heath
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class decision: I've been playing my sf on and off for a while and as a throwaway alt, I never had really fun, it requires too much thinking and is too complex for me personally. Been thinking about making a scrapper with the current event, thoughts? I want female big tiddy melee fighter that requires no thinking and fucks shit up by pressing buttons

heady wasp
neat estuary
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oh, solo modes way more comparable than i assumed

heady wasp
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solo mordum gives 28k thats nice

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all bound but whatever

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we need bound anyway some of it

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so newbies need to etablish a solo raid roster soon :D

neat estuary
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i only play 1 char, i know that's like, unheard of in LoA, but i was able to stay HM week 1 ready up through Akkan HM, not sure i'll be able to catch back up, but no interest in alts

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well, aside from logging in to go use an awakening skill on a guardian for event coins lol

heady wasp
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guardians are more annoying than raids lol

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if i ever drop my alts i'd do chaos on them and some solo modes

neat estuary
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i do them on a small arena low level, loading screen takes longer, usually 15 seconds run

heady wasp
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i see

neat estuary
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hard to keep up with events with 1 char, most people with full rosters don't even think about it since you got infinite tokens

heady wasp
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from my 6 chars chaos is enough to sustain everything from the shop

wheat notch
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how much combat power you get from upgrading a level 7 gem to a level 7 brilliant gem

heady wasp
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even full rested

wheat notch
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t4

heady wasp
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or the transform u do at the gem cutter? if thats what u mean, its 0. Its just to cut it to whatever u want, from cooldown to damage and other way around, no cost for switching between skills

wheat notch
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o, so brilliant gem does not have an extra stat over the normal gem??

heady wasp
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nope

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korea had this but the west was screaming about it so they removed it here

wheat notch
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o wow, thansk for the clarification!

heady wasp
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be aware it bounds the gem to ur char, u can undo that but it takes 15 days iirc

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but u can sell it after that time again if u need to

sharp galleon
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wtf is death incarnate?

shy chasm
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No clue

fallen jasper
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someone told me this

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this is like CoS from g4 Thae

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Prob this is hidden archiv

mellow mauve
vast oriole
vast oriole
mellow mauve
outer mason
patent merlin
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what do i take? gold or elysian?

vast oriole
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Depends

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Do you want to tryhard the ranking or no

plain sorrel
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Gold seems better

vast oriole
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I would go gold or bracelet

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Depending on your bracelet ofc

patent merlin
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i have very good bracelet

heady wasp
vast oriole
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A single high is 10k

heady wasp
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that makes 60k per char then, but thats even less if it doesnt have a flat roll on it

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4cp

mellow mauve
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?gold

buoyant dockBOT
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Gold Sources

Tradable Gold

Tradable Gold is gold that can be used to purchase items from the Market/Auction House as well as be traded to other players.

  • Legion Commander Raids
  • Kazeros Raids
  • Abyssal Dungeons
  • Adventure Island Gold Reward
  • Fate Embers (gold is withheld)
  • Life Skills
  • Selling tradeable items on Marketplace/Auction House.
  • Content Bids
  • Royal Crystal Exchange (gold is withheld)
Roster Bound Gold

Bound Gold is used exclusively for progression systems.

  • Gold Reward Chests from Una's Tokens
  • Mokoko Express Event
  • Solo Mode Raids
Character Bound Gold

Same as Bound Gold, but per character

  • Seasonal Rewards from Paradise Crucible
  • Paradise Hell Chests
  • Certain Legion raids, Kazeros raids, Epic raids partial gold is bound
  • Abyssal Dungeons partial gold is bound
heady wasp
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most likely life skills and adventure island gold, selling on marketplace
those should be the 3 possible good methods for returning players

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from that list

red mason
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so what is go to trans/elixir rn its just master and critical or one of the two + pulverize?

split kayak
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why i cant temper this?

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ThonkSpin same thing happened with my glaiv too

vast oriole
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you dont have enough mats ?

split kayak
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oh

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i thought cus of smth else

vast oriole
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weap cost more

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na

split kayak
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kk, thanks

wintry shoal
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I must be missing something but where on earth is Freja island?

balmy plank
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The minigame isnt on an island. You take a portal there from major cities

wintry shoal
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ah okay

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ty

balmy plank
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In the pop out timer thing on the top left, click the locate button and itll point it out in the respective city

smoky sun
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are skill preset pages per roster or per character?

balmy plank
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Per char

subtle crescent
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need a help for ticket

vast oriole
subtle crescent
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I've been playing for 2 months, I managed to get this express pass, but the previous one didn't appear in my account, and a friend who came back to playing a week ago got it. I need help to resolve this.

vast oriole
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it expired wednesday

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the old powerpass

subtle crescent
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I understand it expired on Wednesday, but as I said, I didn't get that pass, even though I've been playing for 2 months, it hasn't appeared in my account.

vast oriole
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i mean its too late

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to try to get it

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you shouldve written to support way before

subtle moat
vast oriole
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and the old powerpass was south kurzan

subtle moat
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nvm then xD

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so out of curiosity: a completely fresh acc can now get a 1640 character right away as their first char without going through all the old content?

tender flicker
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Yes

subtle moat
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Thats crazy...but good for inviting a friend to play Lost Ark

subtle crescent
tender flicker
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The pass should have been in your product inventory for a 1585 ilvl char, but expired as of yesterday either way

subtle crescent
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Can I get you the email address for Lost Ark support so you can contact them? I couldn't find it.

tender flicker
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?support

buoyant dockBOT
vast oriole
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it doesnt matter

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they wont give you the pass

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it expired

fathom breach
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Question. What’s the deal with buying the t4 accessories with gold in the shop? Is it better buying from there than buying from auction house

vast oriole
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why you want to contact them

tender flicker
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Yeah, kinda doubtful you’d get it retroactively tbh

vast oriole
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he wont get it

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100%

subtle crescent
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ty for help

fallen hare
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So this is appearing to me, I killed akkan in solo and still cant craft? anyone help

vast oriole
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aegir first boss is called akkan

fallen hare
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oh shoot

fallen hare
vast oriole
plain sorrel
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Kill the wrong Akkan NomNom

sonic holly
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for the dps

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accessories in solo gold shop

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What are the DPS ones giving

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H/nothing or H/l?

vast arch
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Is anyone else having trouble opening this chest?
"you cannot use or equip this item"

primal herald
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if there any NPC that would trade my leftover red processed chaos stones after i got qual 100 wep?

tender flicker
vast arch
tender flicker
sonic holly
dim pulsar
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15k + PHEONS

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here in gold shop u can pay with BOUND gold

tender flicker
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35 pheons, blue crystal kinda pricey

dim pulsar
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"kinda"

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ur 15k + this = almost 60k KEKW

tender flicker
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Kinda

vast oriole
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wait

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its only 15 ?

dim pulsar
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yeah

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buy now if u want bonus room gemmies

sonic holly
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to gear my express char

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with those i guess

dim pulsar
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but its up to u

vast oriole
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im getting it for aura XD

sonic holly
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this is in bonus room shop

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that's a lvl 7 btw

dim pulsar
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we know

vast oriole
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i didnt do the maths

tender flicker
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Yeah, like half market value. Good stuff

vast oriole
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is it work

sonic holly
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now i understand why gems are down

dim pulsar
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thats why bc was 19k

vast oriole
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oh

tender flicker
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+lot more accessible lvl 7s for alts

sonic holly
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Yup. this is the SpendYourGold patch

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I'll farm some solo raids to enjoy myself some gear 🙂

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Damn 1680 is such a good spot now for trash chars

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solo mordum+solobrel+soloaegir

charred condor
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?advhoning

buoyant dockBOT
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Optimal Advanced Honing Order
+14 -> 1-10 -> +16 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-30 -> 31-40 -> Continue to normal hone.

  • Honing to +20/31-40 are comparable in cost but with normal honing you're gambling with 1.5% odds and advanced honing provides 3% base stats. Because of this finishing advanced honing first is recommended.
balmy plank
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Hmmm need to update that

vast oriole
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did maxroll updated tho

balmy plank
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Just checked, and nope

dim pulsar
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they sooo slow with updates

balmy plank
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Idk if taking the maxroll numbers and just dividing by 90%/50% etc will realistically reflect the new numbers. I forget probability from college FeelsDumbMan

novel dirge
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hey i sorta kinda got deleted my neklece, where can i get anotherone?

dim pulsar
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wdym deleted?

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which one?

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this? or relic?

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u can get "new" in solo shop (or buy ancient with GOLD in gold shop)

novel dirge
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the accesory one

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i thought it was tier 3 loot becuse i did a t3 chaos and then deleted it

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xd

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dumb

dim pulsar
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just buy new in solo shop

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they dont have high quality tho

tender flicker
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ctr right click if you wanna lock an item, takes 1hr to unlock but will prevent that stuff from happening again

dim pulsar
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u dont need to lock shit, if u USE accessories on urself

novel dirge
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got it, thank you 😄

tender flicker
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my friend managed to delete his bracelet, noticed when he dropped like 100cp Weirdga

balmy plank
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You dont need to lock anything, but just lock it

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Then it never happens

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Locking never hurts you

ocean parcel
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I was told to ask here. Once I hit 1680, is it worth trying to roll accessories? Or just go ahead and buy cheap once on market place with the stats I want? Support main but will probably need DPS accessories too

dim pulsar
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buy with gold in gold shop

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they are enough for u

ocean parcel
dim pulsar
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selection is pinned here

dim pulsar
ocean parcel
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Oh. The new shop? Those gives the stat I need?

safe patrol
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does gem really sold on AH?

ocean parcel
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When do I start spending to roll for good accesory?

dim pulsar
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if u have spare 1512k gold u can roll

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but u dont

ocean parcel
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Okay. Save gold for honing and alts. Got it.

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So just DE all the accessory I get then?

dim pulsar
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u can roll silver ones from hell chets

dim pulsar
ocean parcel
dim pulsar
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4 slots here + 1 bonus

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u wont be LOCKED out of storage

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and thats PER char storage

ocean parcel
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Oh. WTH, they’re that rare???

dim pulsar
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no

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i just roll when i can

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i have spare gold

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those 5 are from event

polar fossil
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i just dismantle everything now. prices are so bad unless high mid or high high

dim pulsar
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i just keep them here

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h/l is still worth

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wdym

polar fossil
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yea ig

dim pulsar
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single H is just bad

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m/m is even worth

ocean parcel
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Maybe I’ll DE everything below 80 if storage starts filling up

dim pulsar
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real issue is those SHARDIES to tap

ocean parcel
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10-4 thank you

whole cypress
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Returning player. What rewards will I not be able to obtain if I use the event on my 1700ilvl character?

dim pulsar
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GOLD

whole cypress
dim pulsar
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all

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from QUEST tab

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gold in chest is for u

whole cypress
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I mean do you know the total figure?

dim pulsar
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all quests are pinned

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just check

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btw its gold u would be HONING with, but if ur at 1700 u dont need that gold

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thats how ags/sg thinks

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reward box is juicy so do ur stuff

whole cypress
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I only miss gold right? Nothing else that would be relevant for a 1700ilvl character

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I am not really up for raising another character tbh

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Especially because the new class comes soon and I'll probably want to waste my stuff on her.

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Thanks for the info

dim pulsar
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new char will get her own pp+express

whole cypress
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Yeah I saw. There is a juiced paid track too right?

dim pulsar
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kr got that, we might or might not get that

indigo marten
dim pulsar
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cp will be higher, DPS too

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*these % values are OLD tho

indigo marten
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huh high flat is that bad huh

dim pulsar
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if u can buy m/m for 50k and single H only for 35-40k, better go with m/m

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H%+High Flat weapon/atk is good

indigo marten
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ye but it cost pheon

dim pulsar
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thats issue

indigo marten
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realistically the only issue of mm

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or HL

dim pulsar
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whats why 30k for gold ones is nice

indigo marten
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is pheon

dim pulsar
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just buy these and ur set

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proly something on par with m/m

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cuz they have H/low flat/low flat

agile crag
#

?AdvHoning

buoyant dockBOT
#

Optimal Advanced Honing Order
+14 -> 1-10 -> +16 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-30 -> 31-40 -> Continue to normal hone.

  • Honing to +20/31-40 are comparable in cost but with normal honing you're gambling with 1.5% odds and advanced honing provides 3% base stats. Because of this finishing advanced honing first is recommended.
dim pulsar
#

dont follow it for now

agile crag
#

Oh okay okay !

indigo marten
dim pulsar
#

if some maths is correct it can be +12->ah10->+14->ah20->normal to 18->ah30-40

agile crag
#

I was here to understand first how to unlock advance honing haha, don't have on my event boost character

dim pulsar
#

Ah is unlocked by doing G1 Echidna

indigo marten
#

solo mode it

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it is kazeros prelude raid on kazeros raid if u dont know which one

dim pulsar
agile crag
#

Thanks a lot, u're so fast and helpful haha

dim pulsar
#

event "echidna" is only G2, it doesnt unlock shit

frigid isle
#

hello~ I am a returning player(last time played was like 2+ years ago). Roster lvl 80 and the highest ilvl character was 1310. I used the event pass for free 1640. Finished the 1st chaos and solo guardian. Now I am lost. Should I do all available roster quest and main quest? Is there any check list or priority list to what to focus?

dim pulsar
#

?quickstart

buoyant dockBOT
#

Quickstart Info NOTED

So you just powerpassed?

  1. Visit Lostark.nexus to find your class guide. Using that guide set up...
  2. Skills (K Menu)
  3. Skill Runes
  4. Engravings (P - Engraving tab)
  5. Ark Passive (P menu - Ark Passive in bottom left)
  6. Gems (Refacet for free at Gem NPC)
  7. Dismantle settings here

  1. Complete Arkesia Tour (Icon Beside Minimap)
  2. Use Tour rewards (skill points & runes) to improve on your class build
  3. Collect & Read Engraving books (20 Yellow Legendary books x5 engravings)
    Engraving books can be obtained various ways through many various NPC exchanges, event shops & event handouts

The Arkesia Tour will have you complete a number of simple quests and reward you with a large amount of horizontal & collectable completion including more skill points & addition skill runes to help your build.

If a Mokoko Express is ongoing, activate it from an icon beside your minimap. It will provide free items to help with the process above as well as provide things like honing support to make progression easer. There is only 1 Mokoko Express per region so choose your character carefully!

Congrats, you now have a functional build to start trying activities like daily Chaos Dungeons, Guardians & weekly Solo Raids.
For any questions you can visit: #lost-ark-help Check the pinned comments!
Pick up class roles from id:customize to get access to class specific channels and info.
Use command /class name to link any class guide from Lostark.nexus. (Example, /slayer)
You can use the ?guides command for a variety of video & written guides.

dim pulsar
#
  1. Arkesia Tour (if still not done)
frigid isle
#

🙏 thank you

sonic holly
#

Did they do anything with the solo modes?

#

They seem to take ages nowadays

vast oriole
sonic holly
#

whats the purpose on that

#

longer fight so newcomers learn it better?

dim pulsar
#

clear faster with 0 gatekeep?

tall wolf
#

hey is it normal that i cant open this chest?

dim pulsar
#

with REAL mats to get u higher

dim pulsar
sonic holly
plain sorrel
dim pulsar
#

he mean it took them 1 year to get us BREL

sonic holly
dim pulsar
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act2/3 dont have INSANDE sidereal dmg

sonic holly
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No I mean they bosses seem tankier

dim pulsar
#

act1 is bugged with that

plain sorrel
dim pulsar
candid lake
plain sorrel
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They should do a solo HardMode tbh to the latest raid

dim pulsar
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with dmg reduction phases too

sonic holly
#

Brel has 20B hp

dim pulsar
#

thats good, i wont kill her in 3min

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thats fun

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shes still JOKE in terms of what she do, but yeah

candid lake
#

it's prob b/c she doesnt go into dr mode a lot or disappears straight up like aegir

sonic holly
#

no its super easy

#

tahts not the point

plain sorrel
sonic holly
#

its just longer than expected

candid lake
#

i mean tbf

shy chasm
candid lake
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they did nerf the fuck outta the previous ones

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but they used to be much longer

shy chasm
#

I mean they straight up just deleted alot of the mechs

tall wolf
dim pulsar
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normal raid g2 brel takes like 8-10min, solo is like 6min top

sonic holly
#

aegir has 7b

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7b vs 20b

plain sorrel
#

The solo raid when released in last year July, was harder than it is now

dim pulsar
sonic holly
#

that's what i was commenting

plain sorrel
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Curent solo raid nerf too much

dim pulsar
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not having x425 in mordum is WAR CRIME

shy chasm
#

Aegir is 1660 brel is 1670 its not thats big of a jump

sonic holly
#

yeah

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but x2 the hp xD

#

I was surprised to see my hyper awak didnt even hurt the boss

dim pulsar
#

aegir moves with cutscenes when u CANT dmg him so

sonic holly
#

but now once u drop boss's hp to 0

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no more mechs

#

I skipped the stagger and all that on aegir

candid lake
#

completing your evo tab

dim pulsar
#

no, mechs still here (its only for g1 aegir that he dies)

candid lake
#

while for aegir its assumed u dont have those points

sonic holly
#

Didnt they say smth about once boss drops to 0 the fight ends?

dim pulsar
#

i still had to watch g2 aegir to do his shit

dim pulsar
#

its just weird g1 aegir does this

candid lake
sonic holly
#

This company walks mysterious paths i must say

plain sorrel
#

Aegir solo is very easy, i run with Tier 3 gear and beat it pretty fast tbh nerf too much

sonic holly
#

yeah

vast oriole
#

what

candid lake
#

o wait

sonic holly
#

i was just surprised to see brel have x2 more hp

vast oriole
#

you cant use t3 gear for aegir

candid lake
#

that is in kr

vast oriole
#

you mean accessories

sonic holly
#

when u barely gain power from 1660 to 1670

dim pulsar
#

"barely" sure sure

sonic holly
#

I mean the power u get from 1670 is with karma

plain sorrel
sonic holly
#

but if u are just doing that for first time

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its xd

vast oriole
#

why

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would you do that

dim pulsar
#

T5 Evo gives me 200CP thats GIGA

indigo marten
sonic holly
#

CP is not dmg

plain sorrel
dim pulsar
vast oriole
#

yes and no

#

sometimes the cp is a bit inflated comapred to dmg

indigo marten
vast oriole
#

but not all the time

indigo marten
dim pulsar
#

Aegir gear unlock u this, and this gives u 200cp (for me) and Bunch of DMG

candid lake
#

it takes longer if u dont have ancient t4 armor

#

but

dim pulsar
#

aegir was JOKE even at release to introduce us to new t4 gear

candid lake
#

it's kinda "fixed" b/c the sidereals

#

do so much dmg

#

but if they didnt, it would feel similar

vast oriole
dim pulsar
indigo marten
#

t skill is such solo game changer tbh i cant imagine raiding without it

#

tried doing akkan without t skill and it wasnt fun on my ilvl back then

sonic holly
#

yeah the sidereals do too much

candid lake
#

before side and after side

sonic holly
#

I mean im not complaining, just questioning

#

its better that the fight takes longer

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so people can be more familiar with patterns

dim pulsar
candid lake
#

i know

#

i was just pointing out

#

how much of the dmg dealt

#

is sides in aegir

dim pulsar
candid lake
dim pulsar
plain sorrel
thorny narwhal
#

what cards are good for new raids?

#

earth, fire or light ?

vast oriole
#

fire for g2 armoche

dim pulsar
#

fire set for act4 g2, u can use earth for g1 kaze?

vast oriole
#

some people use earth set for kazeros but hes not weak to anything

#

lightning for brel

lavish mortar
vast oriole
#

earth for mordum g3

dim pulsar
#

earth for kaze only cuz supp set gives them more stagger

charred condor
#

for flame key in hell can anyone explain it?

#

i just clear until i die once then claim?

tender flicker
#

fire/frost keys, tells you if you die on even/odd floors. You die x2 without bonus life floors and you lose loot. Most people go until you die once then back out for loot.

devout cape
#

I see the challenge express quests for rewards. Is there an equivalent for the mokoko express or is that just honing bonus?

dim pulsar
#

Express is Honing buffs

#

with stuff at certain ilvls

indigo marten
#

breh what even is good orb for PBA

#

man lack of s1 orb sucks for new char

dim pulsar
#

u pick shield one if u dont have heal from s1

polar fossil
#

its kinda crazy you cant get a healing orb anymore

devout cape
#

If you were to buy one of the batte pass or crystalline aura which is the better value?

indigo marten
shy chasm
#

You cant buy for the battle pass anymore I dont think

#

Pay*

indigo marten
#

i think shield from freaking shout of hatred last longer

shy chasm
indigo marten
#

it is like as short as CGL shield

dim pulsar
#

yeah it ended 17th KEKW

#

thats dumb tho

dim pulsar
#

u play shield or some low dmg orb

indigo marten
rose jewel
#

By the time you get enough pp to not be a joke you will get all orbs anyway

#

The shield one is just the most "ethical" one

rose wren
#

fomo...

novel dirge
#

how do you get the event shop currency for makoko bootcamp shop?

balmy plank
#

Raid with someone with the mokoko bootcamp leaf icon. It apears in party finder

rose jewel
#

Gotta do raids with other people

balmy plank
#

The leaf person gets mokoko tokens, the others get the vet tokens for their respective shops

rose jewel
#

You should be a lead yourself so you have nearly free entry

#

Even if you don't know the raid people will use you and toss you after accept you and carry you

#

Veterans just want the coins while doing their homework

#

And since the event just started basically (since we only got the express and there's a lot of mokos now) take advantage of your powers

novel dirge
#

thank you

eternal rain
#

Do people not do these ? Been sitting for another 10min before this too

paper walrus
#

they do not

#

almost everything is never matchmaked btw

vast oriole
#

nobody does old raids

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and you dont need those anyway to progress

livid fossil
#

lol I forgot to not go though the ice on the hill lol total brain fart

rose wren
#

all endgame raids r via party find

dim pulsar
eternal rain
#

sucks because I only need 150 destruction stone fragments to go to 1100 and I already did my daily chaos and guardian

rose wren
#

tower

paper walrus
#

do guardians again

dim pulsar
#

u havent used power pass?

paper walrus
#

you get a small amount of stones

vast oriole
#

whats your server

eternal rain
eternal rain
vast oriole
#

unlucky

eternal rain
#

matchmaking is locked to servers ?

paper walrus
paper walrus
vast oriole
#

no, but i wouldve sent you the mats

paper walrus
#

with trade

eternal rain
#

oh lmao

dim pulsar
rose jewel
#

Event shop should have

eternal rain
#

ill farm tower and guardians until I get it then

#

ty

rose jewel
#

And he should got event shop currency already

livid fossil
#

Well yeah pp1640 no one on the right mind would do it

rose jewel
livid fossil
#

From square 1

eternal rain
#

found some

#

ty

rose jewel
#

Washed up mods is the issue here

paper walrus
#

ok you be mod

eternal rain
rose jewel
#

Haha, no, I don't wanna be washed up and stinky

bold geyser
#

just stinky

rose jewel
#

Eww no

#

It doesn't wash away

rose jewel
#

I still have smellyness from the forced helper role a year ago or so

#

I blame paper and fire for that

paper walrus
#

youve been marked

#

it dont wash

eternal rain
#

wtf this shit broken

#

got like 3k

#

with 10 stars and i have 180

paper walrus
#

you probably shouldnt have opened all of them

eternal rain
#

nah i didnt

paper walrus
#

just open as much as you need and save for higher tiers

rose jewel
#

It's extremely old materials so yeah you get a lot of

eternal rain
#

I dont remember if after 1100 we still use the fragment ones or go up

rose jewel
#

Newest mats is a joke comparatively

#

You use new mats

eternal rain
#

alr

paper walrus
#

what happened to your powerpass

rose jewel
#

Just open what you need

#

He prob is one of those story dudes

paper walrus
eternal rain
dim pulsar
livid fossil
#

Rip pp then

eternal rain
#

i wanna keep my main powerpassless

rose jewel
#

Ah yeah I guess it was the dude I told to use the pass but to get out of trix

livid fossil
#

Main should be pp

rose jewel
#

So he can do all quests instead of losing some due to pass

dim pulsar
bold geyser
#

knock yourself out Shrug

#

see you in 2030

rose jewel
#

Y'all jealous he enjoys the game instead of us tryhard degens

eternal rain
#

is it that bad ?

bold geyser
#

no, i joke

rose jewel
#

It's 2+ months of forced halts

#

As of this moment

paper walrus
#

its a progression game and you're choosing to slow your progression on your main

rose jewel
#

To even get to t4

eternal rain
#

like now im 1100, is it rlly that far from the max rn ?

rose jewel
#

Yes very, read above

bold geyser
#

it's just a lonely grind, which, if you're having fun, isn't a problem 😄

paper walrus
#

for ref 1680 is considered low now

rose jewel
#

You'll take around 3 months to get out of tier 3

paper walrus
#

mains are at 1720-1740

rose jewel
#

We should be getting a new update which makes all of this irrelevant immediately

spice sable
#

I picked a relic core from the free selector to find out that I needed a different one. Can I somehow change the core for a same rarity with different effect?

paper walrus
#

should

rose jewel
#

But we don't have that update, supposed to come here by yesterday, but it didn't, so newbies are fucked

paper walrus
#

you get some shards for eating a core

#

but thats it

rose jewel
#

That's why they gave a powerpass and an express tied to it

novel dirge
#

how do i get the expert tokens for the event shop

paper walrus
#

be not a mokoko

rose jewel
#

It's up to you to enjoy the game for what it is and suffer later or go straight to the end game and raid

paper walrus
#

dont do it

bold geyser
eternal rain
#

yeah im just gonna use powerpass then, i enjoy grind but i like grass too

rose jewel
#

It's not even a grind

bold geyser
#

thats fine too

paper walrus
#

he thinks he still gets to grass after pp

#

lmao

rose jewel
#

It's a forced halt and there's nothing you can do about it but pay up

rose jewel
eternal rain
#

is itm lvl just do ur dailies and weekly and hone rinse and repeat ?

bold geyser
#

wot

dim pulsar
paper walrus
rose jewel
#

Uhh yes, which is like the same at a higher lv, but at a higher lv you have big boi raids, which is why we play this game

dim pulsar
#

weekly quests, paradise, daily rep quests, raids, adventure tome, horiznotal grind any many more

paper walrus
#

you also need gold from doing weekly raids

#

weeklies is what we play the game for

rose jewel
#

He's 1100 he ain't getting gold

#

From any raid, coz he can't raid

paper walrus
#

later

rose jewel
#

I suggest something

royal plaza
#

Hey do we know now at which ilevel should we start AH? I'm 1660 right now wondering when to AH...

rose jewel
#

Make a class you really love and use all the events on it

buoyant dockBOT
#

Optimal Advanced Honing Order
+14 -> 1-10 -> +16 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-30 -> 31-40 -> Continue to normal hone.

  • Honing to +20/31-40 are comparable in cost but with normal honing you're gambling with 1.5% odds and advanced honing provides 3% base stats. Because of this finishing advanced honing first is recommended.
rose jewel
#

Leave that low lv char as it is and do story slowly

spice sable
dim pulsar
paper walrus
#

oh wait its new

#

fk

eternal rain
#

yeah I wanna do the big ass raids too that's why I came back, saw a random video of a korean guy doing the kazeros raid or whatever it's called and I wanted to play

paper walrus
#

start advanced honing earlier

rose jewel
#

Or wait until we get the actual tier 3 patch so you can do story fast and with no hindrances

#

Lmao

dim pulsar
#

+12 normal-ah10-14 normal-ah20-rest

rose jewel
#

Kazeros is the literal latest raid

#

You would take several months if you never passed

#

Powerpassed *

dim pulsar
#

months KEKW that would be 1y+ without pp

rose jewel
#

So yeah just make a new char, use all on it and fly high

dim pulsar
#

and without express

rose jewel
#

Express is a no brainier since it doesn't skip story

#

The point is the story

eternal rain
dim pulsar
#

welp new story will be proly at 1700 (soft reset)

paper walrus
#

if you want the story

#

dont pp the one you have rn

#

make a new one

dim pulsar
paper walrus
#

if you dont care and want to main then pp the one you have

rose jewel
#

Assuming you care about the story later on

dim pulsar
#

depen if u want to follow with story with that one or no

rose jewel
#

That's the only point

#

Your 1100 char is basically nothing/useless as we are rn

eternal rain
#

damn

#

his ass getting deleted

#

ngl

rose jewel
#

You can make the same class

#

You can make any char you want

#

It's literally just for the sake of story on the low one and raiding on the new one

#

It's not hard

#

Even if I myself read the story and all that shit I can't recommend you to do it slowly manually with no help as of now

#

It's plain out ball torture

#

Until the tier 3 rework comes

eternal rain
#

yeah im gonna just create the same character and make it my main same class same everything

rose jewel
#

Which we have no idea when will it come

bold geyser
#

oh yeah can anyone change that macro

#

for advanced honing

#

i did math

rose jewel
#

@balmy plank

paper walrus
#

12 10 14 20?

bold geyser
#

yeah

#

tho i'm checking the gold efficiencies rn sinc ei forgot to check if that does anything wei5rd

#

sec

rose jewel
#

It would be best if we tell them what the express wants them to do as well

#

Since the express gives scrolls for AH at specific thresholds

dim pulsar
#

u can buy some scrolls in solo shop

#

tho

rose jewel
#

So one part of event and one for alts without it

paper walrus
#

but free

rose jewel
#

Some but not all

royal plaza
#

i'm 13 now, so should I start AH ?

rose jewel
#

And we know people are dumb and use them in every tap

rose jewel
#

Oh you mean hone level

balmy plank
royal plaza
rose jewel
#

@bold geyser

#

We are literally talking about that rn

#

So wait for the math guy to throw the maths

paper walrus
#

unless thats a fire thing

vast oriole
#

its fire that needs to do it

balmy plank
#

I cant but I can ask Fire to. We know thats what is is now? What about 21-40?

rose jewel
#

I believe it's Braden's original command so I pinged him

paper walrus
#

same, 21-40 isnt changed

dim pulsar
rose jewel
#

21 to 50 didn't get any change at all

dim pulsar
#

u only tap 19/20 with books, and they are not common

rose jewel
#

40

#

Stupid phone

paper walrus
#

50

#

signum has the scripty

#

holy

rose jewel
#

Bitch I mean witch will drop them frfr

balmy plank
#

14-18 might be more expensive than 16-18

#

Maybe start sooner now

bold geyser
#

dont feel like searching, reposting

eternal rain
#

btw is there any manipulation I have to do to make a character my main or the game considers them all the same ? I know of the main char option in the selection but it says it's to prevent character deletion

paper walrus
#

all the same

eternal rain
#

alr

mellow mauve
eternal rain
#

alr ty

bold geyser
#

so it's actually, for NAE this particular moment if i'm not tripping, hone to +12, AH 1-20, hone to +14

balmy plank
mellow mauve
#

I would hone 11-14 then ah 1-20

cerulean trellis
#

i leant the mechanics and defeated lazaram!

bold geyser
#

yall can do whatever you like

#

im just doing excel shit

bold geyser
#

since you can buy shit from the solo shop

dim pulsar
#

welp optimal to alts, express isnt for "optimal" rewards

dim pulsar
bold geyser
#

its just a spreadsheet i can literally wipe out the whole thing to change something if you prefer

dim pulsar
#

so express chars are like +14->ah10?maybe20->18

tawdry ridge
#

whats the first thing i should do after powerpassing

dim pulsar
#

with express

tawdry ridge
#

oki

mellow mauve
tawdry ridge
#

where do i actually see which spec i have activated

#

it used to be all on engravings

dim pulsar
balmy plank
paper walrus
dim pulsar
paper walrus
#

enlightenment tree

bold geyser
tawdry ridge
#

ahhhh

#

i see woah

bold geyser
#

gonna go through and do everything manually rq

dim pulsar
#

lostark.nexus <ur class> copy all

balmy plank
#

Idk, maxroll just shows diff numbers for normal honing

dim pulsar
#

maxroll is updated that we have books 15-18 in solo?

#

proly no

balmy plank
#

Im not concidering books. Just standard cost

bold geyser
#

if you think the whole thing should be with 0 extra materials, i can just do it like that

#

i didn't think that was practical given the state of things nowadays w/ solo shop and other freebies

balmy plank
#

I did optimal and full on grace. But even adv honing shows different numbers for me

dim pulsar
#

adv isnt updated here

balmy plank
#

I know

#

Im comparing this to the old cost from the spreadsheet

bold geyser
#

i will update literally everything rn to the current market

#

sec

balmy plank
#

Oh thats full send every time

#

181 scrolls is a lot

#

Idk, even full maxroll shows diff

#

Idk, idc Im going back to arc

#

If someones wants to do something feel free. Otherwise ill check later

rose jewel
#

Why do we assume full scrolls even, is it cheaper

bold geyser
#

300g and 500g rn

#

500 and 600 for 11-20

#

pretty cheap

paper walrus
#

i thought your reasoning was solo shop

#

or express

bold geyser
#

i'm just sayin shrug

dim pulsar
#

who tf buys market scrolls?

balmy plank
#

When I did the first one the idea was straightforward basic honing. I didnt want to include a bunch of * first farm solo shop * get scrolls from events *do this/that etc

bold geyser
#

updating everything to the literal latest numbers, but its tryna catch smoke when the market moves, you're getting close enough

devout cape
#

For the challenge express, does it matter what engraving I get? Should I pick grudge?

charred condor
#

can anyone help me figure out how i should hone going forward i totally fked up the advanced honing i know but trying to fix it. Should i jsut wait to hone the pieces with alcaone's eyes?

#

im 1696 ilvl

#

thats also going to take many weeks to get enough eyes im assuming

paper walrus
#

you can buy eyes in the solo shop

bold geyser
tender flicker
#

+18 all and AH +20 all is usually the way to go for 1700

dim pulsar
charred condor
paper walrus
#

its not many

dim pulsar
#

we know its +18/ah20 to get 1700

devout cape
dim pulsar
#

wait

#

show screen

bold geyser
paper walrus
dim pulsar
#

if its lege ur supposed to get full books (lege)

paper walrus
#

each one auto levels the engraving to legendary

paper walrus
#

you have 5 legendary engravings to pick

devout cape
#

Oh

dim pulsar
#

its 20 books per 1 express engr

bold geyser
#

i'll do that, and show the diff

indigo marten
charred condor
#

ok but for example a piece is like this

devout cape
#

ohhhhh

charred condor
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do i jsut hone this to 18 and 18 everythign else

indigo marten
dim pulsar
bold geyser
indigo marten
charred condor
paper walrus
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theres no way to do it wrong

dim pulsar
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u did ah30

charred condor
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since im really behind on eyes

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using it wrong

rose jewel
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Tf you mean wrong

paper walrus
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it only goes up, theres no way to do it wrong, just in a different order

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just hone everything till it matches

bold geyser
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?advhoning

buoyant dockBOT
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Optimal Advanced Honing Order
+14 -> 1-10 -> +16 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-30 -> 31-40 -> Continue to normal hone.

  • Honing to +20/31-40 are comparable in cost but with normal honing you're gambling with 1.5% odds and advanced honing provides 3% base stats. Because of this finishing advanced honing first is recommended.
outer mason
dim pulsar
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u just tapped AH30 before normal +18

tender flicker
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sounds like you just need to start running some hard echidnas?

bold geyser
dim pulsar
charred condor
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yea but i dont have enough eyes for like 4 pieces ill have to wait

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how many do you get in ahrd?

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i do solo

indigo marten
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@dim pulsar wait how do u even gear upgrade aegir armor

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never upgrade those

tender flicker
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nah solo echidna doesn't give the eyes

dim pulsar
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normal honing or what?

tender flicker
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its either hard or solo shop

indigo marten
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gear lvl 1 2 3

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thingy

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is it just set bonus or what

paper walrus
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its been removed(?)

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aegir doesnt have lvls

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does it

dim pulsar
indigo marten
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ye

bold geyser
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thats from kayangel

paper walrus
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the fk is that

outer mason
dim pulsar
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ummm dont ya have it maxed now?

paper walrus
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use clown and kaya mats

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fk clown

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use kaya mats

indigo marten
dim pulsar
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lemme check my fresh valk

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she has full lvl3

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with powerpass gear

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if U DONT have this, u gotta run Kayangel to get mats

bold geyser
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i'll update everything with NO ADDTIONAL MATERIALS then we can litigate that too

dim pulsar
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and tap lvl3 with this npc

outer mason
bold geyser
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changing the 20% reduction to a 90% reduction

indigo marten
bold geyser
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i know that the "math" isn't additive

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the explanation can be though 🙂

outer mason
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if we compare current value to the one from before the patch it's
0.125 / 0.8 = 0.15625
So a 84.375% reduction

dim pulsar