#lost-ark-help

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primal herald
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idk i think

torpid elbow
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if there is no powerpass, how long roughly would it take to rank up an alt - providing i do knowledge transfer

primal herald
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theyu would wanna clear the raid atleast first

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thats what i wanna do atleast

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if i can clear both new raids, then ill be pretty satisfied with the game

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and if ark grid is really that bad its gonna be time to stop

vast oriole
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2/3 weeks for valtan vykas brel

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4 weeks for akkan

primal herald
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gonna be a long while before next raids i would think anyways

vast oriole
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if you craft ancient and relic at the same time

torpid elbow
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okay that's fine then, just so i can hold on to the challenge express if there is one

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does the event last a long while?

hollow anchor
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how do u gentlemen keep ur sanity running mord 6x a week

shadow pasture
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You don’t

primal herald
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i run 4 and im already starting to drop some

shadow pasture
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I do 1 mordum run and I’m already bored out of my mind

primal herald
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mord is so damn long

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3 gate raids should be illegal

vast oriole
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3/4 months

vast oriole
torpid elbow
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oh that's perfect then i should be up and running by then

vast oriole
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thats all

shadow pasture
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Idk how mfs back then did 6x brel and the 2 more 3 gate raids every week

lavish mortar
torpid elbow
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if there is no pass i actually might just buy a pass to the express lol

primal herald
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time back then was more abundant

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we live in a time where time is getting inflated

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(jk)

vast oriole
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msot people didnt have 6 brel hm ready

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for a long while

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since raids release was so fast

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noiw they we pretty much catched up

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we have a lot of time to hone all our chars

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i have 3 hm act 4 3 nm
and 1 hm kaz 5 nm kaz
and im nowhere close to some people

shadow pasture
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Wow you have 6 hm kaz

lavish mortar
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I know people with 6x hm kaz yeah

shadow pasture
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🐳

vast oriole
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yeah i know few people too

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but i think i would rather punch myself than doing 6 hm kaz

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2 hm mord was already fuckign painful

lavish mortar
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I have 2
And im only planning on doing 1 tbh

vast oriole
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im planning of doing 1 hm act 4 only

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week 1 and 2

lavish mortar
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I want my frontier title

vast oriole
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to fully focus on kaz

lavish mortar
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Lord of the Abyss

hollow anchor
vast oriole
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but i dont think i clear kazeros on first title

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i suck at just guard timings XD

lavish mortar
obsidian valve
vast oriole
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i hope you started resting dailies

lavish mortar
primal herald
lavish mortar
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So annoying to get my stupid boxes now

primal herald
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new guardian/chaos?

obsidian valve
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i know i'm supposed to use all of my hell keys but don't know if i wanna 😭

primal herald
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for 1720?

vast oriole
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for ark grid

lavish mortar
primal herald
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oo

hollow anchor
obsidian valve
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just tired of bad rng on every alt KEKW

primal herald
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but we have a 1700 chaos dungeon already

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will that one drop ark grid stuff too?

vast oriole
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yes and?

primal herald
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or just 1710+

vast oriole
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they will add to the loot

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yes

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1700

primal herald
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ok nice

vast oriole
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theres no 1710 chaos

primal herald
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1720?

vast oriole
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yes 1720

obsidian valve
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yet smilemk

primal herald
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gotcha

sick galleon
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lf 4m shards so i can hone to 1720 🙏🏿

vast oriole
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but it starts at 1700

lavish mortar
vast oriole
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lf dyes

lavish mortar
vast oriole
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deal

shadow pasture
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What’s the combat score people are asking for hm kaz

vast oriole
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from what i saw 2600 2700 2800

sick galleon
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2.6

vast oriole
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lol

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xD

sick galleon
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XD

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i saw somewhere 2.2

obsidian valve
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rip, guess i'm missing out then KEKDog

shadow pasture
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I’m like barely touching 2500 🥀

vast oriole
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no its not 2.2

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100%

lavish mortar
sick galleon
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and for normal?

shadow pasture
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Normal is ez pz

vast oriole
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prob like 1900 2000

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since people likes to exagerate for nm

sick galleon
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make it 1700 (i have 1665)

shadow pasture
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But yeah the score is still gonna be up there

primal herald
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is 2.2 atleast enough for act 4 hm u think?

vast oriole
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idk, people gatekeeping like crazy

shadow pasture
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Ig once people get a feel for how easy act 4 is

minor igloo
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Kaz hm has been cleared with around 2.2k. but when people ask for cp, it's never about the minimum that you need but rather how "invested" your character looks

sick galleon
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act 4 nm is 1700 and final act is 1700 or 1710

shadow pasture
lavish mortar
shadow pasture
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But at the same time

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1 nerf and I’m cooked

lavish mortar
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Hasn't WS been nerfed a ton already lol

shadow pasture
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Imagine being a mono roster of burgerking breaker

shadow pasture
shadow pasture
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Cuz powder snow said pba is S tier

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And I’m a sheep

vast oriole
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people are gatekeeping 2800+ for hm in kr

shadow pasture
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2800 is od

vast oriole
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and westerners likes to follow koreans

midnight nimbus
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Already done with AH and Karma. Trade for solars?

minor igloo
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The alternative is letting them rot until you remember about them

vast oriole
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i did yeah

shadow pasture
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Rip all my red jelly beans

lavish mortar
midnight nimbus
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looks like you can buy AH books for alts, I guess? (I'm assuming materials is worse than juice)

minor igloo
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It's your resources. Just spend them however you feel like shrug

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If it feels useful to you now, I don't see why not

primal herald
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from +20 to +25 weapon its gonna be always 1.5% chance or does it go down again at some point?

minor igloo
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Goes down again

primal herald
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*base chance

minor igloo
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1.5/1/0.5

primal herald
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wth

minor igloo
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Going for +25 is because you have resources to spare

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Not because it's needed

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It's purely a vanity project

primal herald
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i mean

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if ur gonna get 2.7k cp for kazeros hm

vast oriole
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i got 25 because i like purple

primal herald
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prob need atleast like 23 weapon or something lol

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surely before spending 25 million gold on every single relic engraving

midnight nimbus
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I'm slowly tapping to 25 to try to meet week1-2 dps checks

minor igloo
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Depends, considering everything is in the millions, it's just a matter of choosing the right CP/gold sink

primal herald
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when does it go down to 1%

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from 21 to 22 is already 1%?

lavish mortar
minor igloo
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I think so GuraThonk

primal herald
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dam

shadow pasture
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Can’t remember

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I free tapped my shit Clueless

minor igloo
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And worst case scenario, you just do nm kaz and get some ark grid jewels to boost your cp that way

shadow pasture
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Yeah that’s basically the move if you’re a little under the desired combat score

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Just get ark grid and blast them

minor igloo
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Cause rn you're competing with the giga sweats for cp from the AH

primal herald
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is ark grid gonna be that big of an upgrade?

shadow pasture
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Yes

obsidian valve
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so many character progression systems 😵‍💫

minor igloo
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1k+

primal herald
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hwat

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1k cp?

shadow pasture
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Ark grid is a big deal

primal herald
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thats crazy

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and when ppl say gold sink

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is it like

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1m gold

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or 50m gold

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lol

lavish mortar
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1mil supposedly

shadow pasture
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And then there’s the rng factor

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Pretty smelly system

primal herald
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i mean

shadow pasture
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At least there’s pity ig

lavish mortar
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Pre nerf elixirs basically

primal herald
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if the average scenario is something like

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10 weeks and 2mil gold at most

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can't be that bad

shadow pasture
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It takes like what

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6 weeks for the cores

lavish mortar
primal herald
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still 1mil even with an year?

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the gold doesnt go down when failing the rng?

shadow pasture
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At least the difference between relic and ancient cores isn’t that big iirc

lavish mortar
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But yes relic is most of it

primal herald
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6% more dmg from relic to ancient?

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but relic is like what 50% dmg compared to no ark grid?

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so not that big of a deal

lavish mortar
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But you can still get mega fucked by rng not getting relicx you need

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Its like elixirs though
You can get 17pts all with whatever jewels, or try get 17pts alls with good jewels

primal herald
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assault raid is gone on the 19th right?

minor igloo
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Ye, next week is the last week for strike

primal herald
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thank god oh no

lavish mortar
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Rip gold income but fuck strike

shy chasm
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I forgot strike raid wasn't permanent

minor igloo
shy chasm
shadow pasture
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Strike has been a massive nothing burger for me

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Where’s my damn 500k bar

obsidian valve
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i'd settle for a 200k bar at this point lol

minor igloo
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When kaz drops, all the 1690-1700s gotta get a rude cold awakening in brel hm HanaDevil

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Prepare to freeze

shy chasm
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Good thing all my alts are still 1680

lament hatch
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hey, im a returning player. will i get taken into raids if i dont play a class that is not in S+/S/A tier on Maxroll?

shy chasm
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Theres no tier

lament hatch
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like anything that is in here

lavish mortar
shy chasm
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You can be shit regardless tha calls you play

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Class*

minor igloo
lavish mortar
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A "d tier" class

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So who gives a fuck

lament hatch
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damn allr so these tierlists are bs, ty xD

minor igloo
shy chasm
minor igloo
last acorn
minor igloo
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So it just boils down to hands diff for the casuals

lament hatch
minor igloo
tender flicker
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if anything there may be some stigma about dps artist/pally

lament hatch
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well thats understandable xD

shadow pasture
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Well artist dps is actually complete ass

last acorn
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so is judgement pally

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what are we on

minor igloo
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Just get full books and gems on DPS paladin to clown on these casuals, bro

last acorn
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we are like if db had a sped child

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and forgot how to walk

lament hatch
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but for example peacemaker gunslinger and time to hunt are placed very far apart, is their dps that much different?

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in lategame

minor igloo
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Tth simply requires less effort to hit the same reward

lament hatch
obsidian valve
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i bet they won't touch valk though KEKW

shadow pasture
lament hatch
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nice ty thats very useful

lavish mortar
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Just dont be a sheep and play what you think is fun

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This isn't a game you can meta chase in unless you wanna spend 100k+

lament hatch
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well, its more like i find a particular class fun regardless of the build and if i can i want to do as much dmg as possible so that i am more efficient

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ie. gunslinger and artilerist

lavish mortar
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Then just play that class, and swap between specs on it depending on your mood

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Thats what I do KEKW

lament hatch
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yeah idk if i always want to farm 2 sets of equipment xD

lavish mortar
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? You only need 1 set fam

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What you mean

shadow pasture
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They made swapping super easy

lament hatch
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what?

shadow pasture
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Stuff like bound gems

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Bonus points if your 2 specs share the same elixir set

lavish mortar
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No more dog shit engravings on accessories either

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I HATED that crap

shadow pasture
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Like gunslinger should have the easiest time swapping builds

lament hatch
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i see, its a point system now, thats dope af

obsidian valve
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yay green key from hell altar 😅

shadow pasture
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Since they share basically everything

minor igloo
lavish mortar
lament hatch
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yeah i mean on that stats site there is a 200mill udps difference between the highest and lowest dps

minor igloo
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my pig emoji is blocked here wtf

lament hatch
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highest 480mil lowest 280mil

minor igloo
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did you trim down their power bracket accordingly

lavish mortar
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Lowest probably has fewer megalodons

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Cap it like 3k CP

minor igloo
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and it defaults to mordum gate3 iirc, which is a very inflated gate for certain classes

shadow pasture
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Like deathblow strike eats very good in mordum g3

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And something like Ferality wildsoul eat shit in g3

lament hatch
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which raid is good to get a impression of allround performance? idk anything about these raids

shadow pasture
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I’d say like g2 brel and g2 mordum

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But honestly all these raids are just mech to mech

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So burst classes always eat good

spring spruce
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I would say take a look at a good handful since they all have their own reasons why some classes may do better than others

shadow pasture
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Regardless tho whatever raid data you decide to look at

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There is like always the same 5 classes that are at the bottom

lament hatch
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yeah theres also probably a likelihood that certain players of certain classes have no hands

obsidian valve
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rip

vast oriole
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Just dont watch entropies in g3 mordum

minor igloo
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it's not a likelihood. it's definitely handless players fridge

vast oriole
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And g1 mordum is dogshit

obsidian valve
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dogshy smilemk

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i like it

shadow pasture
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Maybe if you’re like a valk you’d like g1

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Strike is also smelly

obsidian valve
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valk meh KEKW

lament hatch
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valk is the new class no? is she overtuned?

obsidian valve
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it's the new "viable" support dps

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so much so that people seem to forget it's supposed to be a support sometimes 😅

shadow pasture
obsidian valve
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mhm, she broke the game KEKW

shadow pasture
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All her damage is condensed into 1-2 skills and she can build stacks without hitting the boss

lament hatch
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i see liberator in sup but shining knight not

obsidian valve
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one can only hope other supps get similar treatment eventually

lavish mortar
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Valk is consistently top 10 dps on most bosses depending how you sort
And one of only 4 supports

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So quite strong

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Quite fun too

obsidian valve
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having one supp steal all the thunder is meh

lavish mortar
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After artist rework valk will basically be the worst supp generally speaking

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So shrug

vast oriole
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Na its still pala

lavish mortar
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Nah pala is good wtf

vast oriole
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Valk got buffed also

lavish mortar
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Valk needs buffs to meter gen

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Having literally 2 builder skills is so skullsob

vast oriole
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They did

lament hatch
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she definitely seems very fun. and also since i will have to do a lot of solo raids, she will be very good in doing them or not?

vast oriole
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By making them 2 times xD

lavish mortar
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Everything destroys solo raids

vast oriole
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Any class is good in solo raids

shadow pasture
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shit you can just use sidereals and destory solo raids in like 5 mins

vast oriole
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Just afk and use hyper

obsidian valve
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i'll stick with drizzle smilemk

lavish mortar
lament hatch
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did they make them easier? i remember i struggled hard in the clown raid with souleater

lavish mortar
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Removed like half the mechs

obsidian valve
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clown was just annoying lol KEKW

vast oriole
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Idk i dont play valk

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I hate her leap animation

lavish mortar
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Arna hates big tiddies noted

vast oriole
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Well they are not comfy

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I heard

obsidian valve
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dis is true

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need more pecs classes smilemk

vast oriole
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I already have back problems, i dont need more

lavish mortar
vast oriole
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I need to rewatch memos guide on ark grid

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I cant understand shit

lavish mortar
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I am smol UwUTurtle

vast oriole
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Am i dumb

lavish mortar
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Think elixirs

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But

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Somehow worse!

vast oriole
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Yeah but whats the pount of jewels

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Point

lavish mortar
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Jewels = elixir points
Core = your set effect

vast oriole
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Hm

shadow pasture
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hopefully i get the core i want

vast oriole
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So need certain number of jewels to activate the core

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?

lavish mortar
vast oriole
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Ok got it

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So as the word i cant type than elixirs

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Got it

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Cant wait

lavish mortar
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Nono

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Its worse

vast oriole
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Is there some mini game like elixirs too

shadow pasture
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nah

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just tap tap tap

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and cry

vast oriole
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Or like karma and you just click gold to delete gold

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Ok

lavish mortar
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Its just taptap

vast oriole
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So its already better than elixir

lavish mortar
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But it tells you what options you might get

shadow pasture
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they moved away from the mini games

vast oriole
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I like to taptap and delete gold

lavish mortar
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So its more painful watching it not hit the good stuff

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And only hitting bad

obsidian valve
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dat RNG though

vast oriole
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Yeah its fine

lavish mortar
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At least karma its just 1 option with low %
Not 4 option
Some good some bad

vast oriole
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I just tap tap

shadow pasture
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i already spent like 700k gold yesterday

vast oriole
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I dont like thinking

shadow pasture
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maybe i shouldve saved that shit

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looking at this ark grid stuff from memo

lavish mortar
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Its like 10k almost per purple jewel to full cut lol

vast oriole
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I have 4k gold

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All good

lavish mortar
obsidian valve
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all da kitties

shadow pasture
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man watching this memo video

vast oriole
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I dont like having gold

shadow pasture
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and him talking about how lucky people will just do infinite damage

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due to cores

vast oriole
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Yeah

livid fossil
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Infinite gold sink dmg

shadow pasture
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theres gonna be such a fat gap

vast oriole
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Im glad im.support

livid fossil
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Spender-poor

lavish mortar
vast oriole
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I just need push immune hopper SCpetHAPPY

obsidian valve
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it's rough out there PeepoYes

shadow pasture
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hopefully ags doesnt milk that kr balance patch

vast oriole
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Well thats not ags choice

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But i need the balance patch

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My class is unplayableeeeee

lavish mortar
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Me too

shadow pasture
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what were the artist changes besides the heal orb and

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dr change

vast oriole
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Pretty much it

shadow pasture
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o

vast oriole
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Red orb

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Heal orb

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Better dr

lavish mortar
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The dumb ass red orb gone

livid fossil
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Red orb is move orb

lavish mortar
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No

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The other red one

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That only the artist can grab

obsidian valve
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ah that thing

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sometimes the boss lands on it and i can't grab it 😭

vast oriole
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I NEVER CAN GRAB IT AAAAAAAA

lavish mortar
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I just forget to grab it tbh

obsidian valve
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spamming hell keys like a madman mokokoSob

livid fossil
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lol

tender flicker
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?gold

buoyant dockBOT
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Gold Sources

Tradable Gold

Tradable Gold is gold that can be used to purchase items from the Market/Auction House as well as be traded to other players.

  • Legion Commander Raids
  • Kazeros Raids
  • Abyssal Dungeons
  • Adventure Island Gold Reward
  • Fate Embers (gold is withheld)
  • Life Skills
  • Selling tradeable items on Marketplace/Auction House.
  • Content Bids
  • Royal Crystal Exchange (gold is withheld)
Roster Bound Gold

Bound Gold is used exclusively for progression systems.

  • Gold Reward Chests from Una's Tokens
  • Mokoko Express Event
  • Solo Mode Raids
Character Bound Gold

Same as Bound Gold, but per character

  • Seasonal Rewards from Paradise Crucible
  • Paradise Hell Chests
  • Certain Legion raids, Kazeros raids, Epic raids partial gold is bound
  • Abyssal Dungeons partial gold is bound
lavish mortar
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?Shards

buoyant dockBOT
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Known Shard Sources

Weekly Resets:

  • Event Shop
  • Tea & Libra Guild Vessel (outside all ports; Tier 3 shards only)
  • Guild Shop
  • PvP Vendor
  • Kayangel/Akkan/Echidna Shop (Tier 3; random chance from mat box)
  • Behemoth/Echidna Shop (Tier 4; random chance from mat box)
  • Weekly Una Tasks
  • Raid Boxes

Daily Resets:

  • Chaos Dungeon
  • Guardian Raid
  • Hell (Paradise)
  • (select days) Chaos Gate

One Time Rewards:

  • Punika/Elgacia/Pleccia/Voldis/South & North Kurzan Completion(Tier 3)
  • Tower (Fortunespire for T3)
  • Legion Raid Exchange Vendor (Clown/Brel/Akkan marks)
  • Moko Island Vendor (Daily entry)
  • Indigo Island (Daily Entry)
  • Buzzling Island (Daily Entry, Hourly minigame)
  • Ark Pass (event that comes in seasons)

Paid Sources:

  • (gold) Auction House
  • (gold/bc) Mari’s Shop
  • (rc) Silvery Honor Pack
  • (rc) Honing Packs (less value for shards alone)

Courtesy of daisies

livid fossil
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?cores

lavish mortar
obsidian valve
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👀

viral spoke
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buzzling island, next event in 20 minutes, anyone join ?

mellow mauve
knotty mist
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These should be fine to keep right? Don't see they expire but figured I should double check lol

shadow pasture
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There’s always going to be a tiny clock next to a box/item if they expire

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They also tell you the date they expire

knotty mist
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Makes sense, just wanted to be safe since the season ends

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ty

balmy plank
maiden locust
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Good day everyone

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I'm new here so I thought I'd say hi ^^

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Started playing yesterday. Came in looking for a complex class that I can really put in time and effort to learn and I picked deadeye. Going for the ahotgun build eventually. Is my asdumption correct?

livid fossil
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Pure sweaty class

minor igloo
shadow pasture
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a squishy back attack class

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idk how it will be with ark grid

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you should check out ark grid for the classes you want to main

maiden locust
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I would but I'm pretty sure I would understand nothing

shadow pasture
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ig that is true

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ark grid basically has some gameplay changes usually qol

minor igloo
shadow pasture
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idk anything about deadeye tho

shadow pasture
maiden locust
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My other options were reaper, berserker and sorc

shadow pasture
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even if its in the far far future aka 1700

minor igloo
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It's a long road ahead for him before ark grid even matters fridge

shadow pasture
maiden locust
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Yeah it was a close call with deadeye

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Still not sure about my choice

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😅

lavish mortar
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Berserker is very complex

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Especially mayhem Clueless

maiden locust
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Yeah I figured as much hence why I put it in the future alts box haha

minor igloo
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Sir, this is a help channel UltraMad

lavish mortar
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Mayhem is just the same cycle of skills repeatedly xD

minor igloo
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BT is just punisher slayer with an extended cycle

lavish mortar
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So puni without booba and therefore TRASH

minor igloo
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A lot of small nuances to make you pump as BT, but it's not giga demanding to the likes of Emp or Emp

maiden locust
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Ok so I'm looking at the maxroll overview which, in hindsight, i should've done yesterday and I'm thinking maybe an assassin class fits the bill better?

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I'm especially looking at deathblade and reaper

spring spruce
maiden locust
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A bit

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I found a showcase on youtube

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It's like 2 minutea each

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So not much to go by

spring spruce
maiden locust
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Yeah this one

spring spruce
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ok cool, so you are trying to decide between deathblade and reaper now? just 1?

maiden locust
shadow pasture
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then play deathblade

paper walrus
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but the video works

shadow pasture
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its very rewarding once you get really good with em

paper walrus
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and yeah just choose any class

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you're learning a new game, anything will feel complex

shadow pasture
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also idk about playing multiple high complex apm classes

maiden locust
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Ok thank you so much for taking the time to answer I really apreciate it

shadow pasture
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but if you can handle it go ahead

maiden locust
shadow pasture
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oh theres a ton of braindead specs

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you can basically pick whatever class you want for braindead

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except like deathblade and arcana

maiden locust
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What's arcana? Can't seem to find it

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Or you mean arcanist?

shadow pasture
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its a mage

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arcana, arcanist potato potato

maiden locust
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Sorry i'm dumb 😅

shadow pasture
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arcanist has basically a deck system

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so the apm for that class can be in the 100s

sleek marsh
#

arcana is probably the only class in the game that is "hard"

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high apm and a lot of moment to moment decision making if you want to be very good at it

shadow pasture
#

worth looking into

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if you havent already

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it fits your bill of a high apm and complex main

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its also almost always good

maiden locust
#

I will check it out

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Oh and one more thing. I picked a server at random, does it matter at all what server I play on?

shadow pasture
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raids are serverwide

tight nexus
#

ok, i am down the pet rabbithole now, any way to get more pets as f2p? xD how important is it to have more pets?

paper walrus
#

they sometimes send out pets as gifts during express events

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other than that, you can buy them from the market

maiden locust
#

so I think in the end I will be going deathblade @shadow pasture

paper walrus
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the gifted pets arent limited to express, anniversary also sends some

maiden locust
#

not a big fan of the rng of arcana personally from what i've seen

strange viper
#

And most of the stuff you can buy with cookies is just cosmetics

half shard
#

Are trade skills a good source of gold nowadays? I know for how much things are selling, but idk what is a good amount of gold lol

tight nexus
#

ok nice! thank you :p

paper walrus
#

trade skills are always a good source of gold

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you can sell the mats or craft fusions and sell those depending on the market

strange viper
half shard
#

Perfect for me then! I love gathering stuff around, the trade skill titles were the first ones I got arcahehe
Thank you!

minor igloo
strange viper
#

actually trade skills might be the highest gold/h technically.. it usually takes like 5-10minutes to deplete all the energy and you can sell the stuff for thousands of gold.

sharp musk
#

whats the conversion ratio for thunderglobe to thundercrack horn mats, 1:2?

paper walrus
#

1:2

molten grove
#

Wouldn’t say arcana is the only hard class but it’s hard, it depends what u find hard. Arcana is still hitmaster and doesn’t have major animation locks

molten grove
minor igloo
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alot of other classes is just knowing the boss, and knowing how to press your buttons is a certain order fast enough

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So if you are ceiling chasing, i would assume you already know the boss. Then it's just a matter of how complex your kit is.
So it's just a matter of how fast can you process your arcana's kit/card draw vs how good you are at chasing ass as RE Blade

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RE Blades with very many sources to just bullshit their way through boss patterns is OME

molten grove
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But not having para immune simplifies ceiling play coz if u simply can’t para immune then u just have to dodge normally but if u can para immune with a small window on a certain skill then u gotta know when its coming and time it right to hit ceiling

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That’s the entire reason why ceiling is high coz u have to actively do it rather than just avoiding normally

minor igloo
#

yes, and what does arcana have to actively do with their 10cards/min vs an RE Blade

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while RE Blade is looking for that high cpm, i wouldn't say it's that much more demanding than arcana

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it's very easy to be an average performing arcana, and it's very easy to be a floordb

molten grove
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I mean it’s 2 diff skill sets but sure in terms of class mechanics arcana is probably the hardest coz no other class has to read cards mid fight

minor igloo
#

and thats basically what we're saying

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and i would say that having multiple sources of paralysis immune just simplifies how much you can power through the boss. but to each their own

tight nexus
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i have my arcana at 1325, probably not playing it well, but all i do is use cards as soon as they come online and stuff melts KEKW

strange viper
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I never played arcanist at high level either, but I had one at around 1500 before I deleted her, playing emperor and its just best to keep doing your combo/rotation and using the cards you get. Sometimes holding if you see you have potentially decent cards to buff your combo to do crazy damage.

minor igloo
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The mental load for arcana really comes from knowing or preempting your cull/wheel/clown cards. It's basically a non-stop atro cycle relative to your cooldowns.

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The trash cards will just be cycled out naturally

molten grove
#

not having the para immunity means u simply dodge like everyone else and u dont need to think

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coz we are comparing arcana dps to arcana dps if u dont have para immune neither does any other arcana

minor igloo
#

Not really. There are more patterns with paralysis than push immune which you use to power thru most of the patterns. Prepositioning is not unique to any class of course. Being hitmaster is the only upper hand that arcana has over re db when it comes to lower complexity.

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Both still have to cycle efficiently to hit their desired cpm. DB has more tools to greed patterns but of course if they don't use those tools, they are also floordb

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I'm not denying that db is a difficult class in terms of mastery.

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But peak mastery would still go to arcana in my book purely from the amount of game sense they need to truly maximise their class.

molten grove
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im not saying arcana is ezier than db im saying they are difficult in diff ways like what u said, arcana is hitmaster and i also think it doesn't have ridiculous animation locks but it has the card mechanic + rng.

DB doesn't have a hard rotation, its difficulty comes from knowing how to use ur kit perfectly for each encounter, having para immunity up but not over holding it, repositioning perfectly with skills rather than walk so u need to know how much distance each skill moves u etc... all to keep the high uptime, always hitting and greeding/para immune as much as possible

Different skill sets

minor igloo
#

Yes, but all those you listed are not unique to db. A lot of other classes also have said tools.

molten grove
#

db has the best flow

marsh grove
#

db player trying desperately to convince everyone (including himself) that he's special

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arcana is harder

molten grove
#

for all i know u could be an arcana player kek

marsh grove
#

ive seen you on your assassin char

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figured you probably have db as well

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an assumption, sure

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either way just seemed like a really odd and long "discussion" for the help channel

minor igloo
#

it do be like that

molten grove
#

I like talking about stuff at length and I think Grayson sometimes does too when hes interested, theres not much more to it

marsh grove
#

I'm happy for you, man

minor igloo
#

end of the day, any class other than blue gunlancer with nella has their own many layers of difficulty where eventually you'll just know how the class works, and the refinement in gameplay is mostly raid specific fridge

molten grove
minor igloo
#

nah, mobility isn't really the problem with bluelancer tbh. there's only so much you can do with 75% crit rate and skills taking ages to deal their damage while having pretty long cooldowns.

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class is just chungus in terms of animation speed

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that shield charge speed, while good, is mostly flavour against most bosses

tight nexus
#

quick q, when should i be worried about gems? i'm still rolling with the lvl 5 ones that you get for free(1490)

shadow pasture
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From solo shop

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And then in t4 you get t4 level 6 gems which are basically T3 level 8 gems

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So don’t worry too much about gems

marsh grove
#

though last event gave 1 char 8 free T4 lvl 7 gems so

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next event might give some

shadow pasture
#

I don’t even suggest upgrading gems till like 1700+

marsh grove
#

it's kind of a lose/lose

shadow pasture
#

There’s almost always better stuff to upgrade

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With your gold

marsh grove
#

CP is so low without gem upgrades most of the time

#

you buy accessories

tight nexus
#

ooook so i just bauy the lvl 7 ones from the shop for now and worry about it at 1680, good, nothing to worry about then xD

marsh grove
#

RNG for bracelet

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karma is slow af

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all that's really left is honing and gems

marsh grove
tight nexus
#

thank you !

marsh grove
#

can just be hard to manage gatekeep on CP vs honing vs gems and other stuff

shadow pasture
#

I know what you mean but gems are so smelly

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Wish they didn’t inflate the combat score so much

tight nexus
#

i'm mostly solo so i doubt i will be gatekept from content :p

marsh grove
#

when in the world are they going to double brel mats given

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doing karma on new chars is like

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the absolute worst

robust shuttle
#

Hey guys, quick question, is there something like a dps meter addon? Something that shows your party dps breakdown in real time.

strange viper
robust shuttle
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Oh so 3rd party tools are a no no

strange viper
#

ive been told everybody still uses it, you just cant talk about it ingame.

shadow pasture
#

Well it’s like jay walking

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It’s a no no

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But not really enforced

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Like it’s a 3rd party app which isn’t allowed

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But ags doesn’t really do anything about it

robust shuttle
#

So i can still use it for my personal info as long as I don't tell anybody?

shadow pasture
#

There’s an in game dps meter

marsh grove
#

well if it's "against the rules" then they'd be able to tell client-side

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if you were to get "caught"

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people aren't going to go ratting you out to ags

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if you tell them you're using it

robust shuttle
shadow pasture
#

3rd party dps meter has some nice tools tho

strange viper
#

I wont say its okay to use it, who knows if one day AGS does decide to start enforcing their rules. Its possible, they even handed out some punishment for RMT after like 3 years of not doing anything at all.

shadow pasture
#

Like udps

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I doubt it tho

strange viper
#

But youll probably not be perma'd for using it

marsh grove
#

you'll just be disqualified from Regulus TFM

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🙂

#

in 2028

shadow pasture
#

AGS isn’t stupid they know a good bulk of players use it

robust shuttle
#

Well I'd rather not take a chance if there's an ingame tool

shadow pasture
#

Yeah Ingame meter is good enough

strange viper
#

Yea, if they ban bible groups then there will be like 12 players left in this game.

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So they cant do it

split kayak
#

at least the ppl left can form a raid group

shadow pasture
#

But they can’t form a behemoth group

strange viper
shadow pasture
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And bible has been around for ages

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It would be bizarre for it to be banned now

strange viper
#

Yea im not saying its likely to happen. but if they wanted to, they could.

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Kinda like how ppl kept RMTing for years and years without any worry about punishment, until one day AGS decided to start doing it... and i guess some still do.

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They effectively deleted bus adverts ingame too and starting handing out timeouts for ppl who kept doing it., so theres a few cases where AGS changed their mind.

shadow pasture
#

Usually after community backlash

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They did the same for honor begging

strange viper
#

True, that was surprisingly fast reaction from AGS.

shadow pasture
#

Well it was basically doing the same thing as bus advertising

strange viper
#

Not enough backlash for RMT from the community since it took them so long lmao.

shadow pasture
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So ig not really surprising

strange viper
#

I guess for the first 3½years they were too busy fucking around with the bots, not realizing that the bots were here only because ppl were buying the gold from them.

robust shuttle
#

question about deathblade, do I get booted out of deathtrance if I use the z skill? should I delay using it in order to benefit from the buffs?

shadow pasture
#

And also what spec are you playing

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Remaining energy or surge

indigo breach
#

Is non-transforming wild soul playable?

shadow pasture
indigo breach
#

hmmm

shadow pasture
#

It’s ranked pretty high too in kr with ark grid

indigo breach
#

OK thx

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I might try it when the next power pass comes out

robust shuttle
shadow pasture
#

Doesn’t really matter what you do on the char

indigo breach
#

Probably still in Yudia

shadow pasture
#

You won’t need to worry about how the class actually plays till you reach t3

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And even then you won’t unlock its full potential till t4

robust shuttle
#

Well ok

#

At what level do I get my spec or whatever it's called

shadow pasture
#

Like in t3 I believe

#

So ilvl 1370 iirc

#

You should have a powerpass

#

Unless you’re trying to play this game naturally

indigo breach
#

Or push main story quests until Punika

robust shuttle
shadow pasture
#

Well the powerpass will expire on the 19th of November so

#

You might wanna think about that

#

I would personally use the powerpass on your deathblade

#

And then naturally play the story on an alt character

sick galleon
#

#buffdeadeyeew

lavish mortar
#

?progression

buoyant dockBOT
delicate narwhal
#

which of the 5 legendary card packs should I crack open?

#

Obviously everyone already has LOS 30 but I need the other elemental sets

dim pulsar
#

dps is relentless?

delicate narwhal
#

which of these do i open?

shadow pasture
#

?cards

buoyant dockBOT
#

Recommended Card Pack for each Card Set _

shadow pasture
dim pulsar
shadow pasture
#

i think i would blow my brains out if i got a los/lwc/klc card

tight nexus
#

dumb question maybe, but do they dish out sometimes free character expansion slots? 😛

tight nexus
#

that's fair, thought so but you never know ! xD

shadow pasture
#

reskin tickets come like

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once a blue moon tho

tight nexus
#

don't really care about those :p

dim pulsar
shadow pasture
#

well the 24 hrs is like when you freshly make the char

#

what if in like 3 years time

#

i dont want my character to look like that

#

ya kno

dim pulsar
#

if u want to swap 3y ur dodo and have to pay

shadow pasture
#

im just saying they do give out reskin tickets

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albiet

tight nexus
#

i might do my first purcahse, really want slayer, wildsoul and breaker xD

shadow pasture
#

like once in a blue moon

shadow pasture
marsh grove
#

hes a lower ilvl enjoyed so

#

enjoyer*

#

probably not considering passing

tight nexus
#

oh i need char expansion slot, not powerpass :p

#

Fate getting to know me KEKW

shadow pasture
#

its worth noting that you can only earn gold on like 6 characters

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or claim gold from raids on 6 characters

#

ofc if you wanna play mulitple characters go ahead

#

mr4ktv has like 28 characters

tight nexus
#

ia really don't care about gold that much as long as i have enough to do stronghold and KT to north vern alts :p

#

i just like palying diff chars, some are extremely extremely fun

spring plaza
#

I'm new but already bored what to do in this game

#

It feels as the game is empty

shadow pasture
#

theres like some horizontal content you can do

spring plaza
#

What is that

shadow pasture
#

picking up random mokoko seeds

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basically achievement hunting

#

if you dont care about that stuff just wait till winter loaon in kr

#

since they have plans on more for fun stuff

marsh grove
#

as a new player if you're not liking the general feel of the game then

#

your only real hope is raiding

#

if you end up not liking raiding either then

#

🤷

shadow pasture
#

and yeah this game is a raid simulator

#

more of an action rpg instead of an mmo

spring plaza
marsh grove
#

yeah

#

and solo raids to a certain extent

spring plaza
#

It's a beautiful game but boring

marsh grove
#

what have you been doing

spring plaza
#

I kinda opened the list of "content" and tried all the stuff in there

#

It feels mid

shadow pasture
#

most of the enjoyment is from stuff like raiding

marsh grove
#

I like the story as well but

#

if you powerpassed you skipped a lot of it

#

and its hard to get to the next parts without an event

spring plaza
marsh grove
#

what ilvl are u

#

@spring plaza

spring plaza
shadow pasture
#

so 1585?

spring plaza
#

Yes

marsh grove
#

yeah all there is to do at 1585 is 3 weekly raids, daily chaos/guardian, and eventually weekly hell

shadow pasture
#

i'd say give it an actual try when express comes out on the 19th

marsh grove
#

you can also make a 2nd, new fresh char to actually try to experience the beginnings of the story/campaign

shadow pasture
#

its pretty normal if the game feels bare bones if you have 1 char

#

they cut down a lot of the grinding

spring plaza
marsh grove
#

more raiding

tight nexus
#

i heard a lot about the express, what is that actually?

shadow pasture
#

more chars = more raids to do

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and more dailies

shadow pasture
#

helps you easily push to higher ilvls in a short period

tight nexus
#

as in? one character gets to hoard tons of mats to push ilvl fast or is that for all alts?

shadow pasture
#

just 1 char

tight nexus
#

perfect ! 😄

marsh grove
#

you could hit 1680 in like 4?5? weeks as a completely new player with last events

#

faster if really lucky

shadow pasture
#

yeah its like 5 weeks

marsh grove
#

free 30/30 LOS card set was also equally as huge

#

if you're new

robust shuttle
#

hey guys so what are rapport quests?

#

is that something I should be doing?

dusky sky
#

only do them for horizontal stuff

#

like critical stuff that boosts your combat power

#

otherwise you don't need to grind it unless you like it

robust shuttle
#

so I can do them later on right?

dusky sky
#

yes

#

I would recommend grabbing the free rapport chests from every npc in every major hub though

#

it makes rapport quests much easier/faster

#

and refresh weekly

#

only costs silver

robust shuttle
#

ok

#

thank you ^^

split kayak
#

new powerpass is next week?

marsh grove
#

no confirmation

#

could be no pass

split kayak
#

there is a pass in nov right

#

vaguely rmb

#

but not sure if it's powerpass or express

marsh grove
#

we're getting events but no details yet

#

some people are assuming powerpass

#

but no confirmation yet

#

they just gave 2 powerpasses recently which is as far as I know more than they usually give in such a short time

#

who knows though

split kayak
#

i see, thanks

marsh grove
#

I personally already started prepping a potential char for the possible express

#

didnt wanna be left screwed if no powerpass

split kayak
#

yeah the thing is i want to play new char 😂 so i have to wait for pp
because raising thru t1 to t3 is smth i would never do without pp

#

but ya, i'll just use the express on alts if there is no pp

#

cheers

marsh grove
#

getting a new char to 1580 isnt that expensive if you have a higher ilvl char and/or are using fusion boxes on it

#

last express started at 1585? I think so if we get the same one you'd only need to hit 1585

vast oriole
#

1580 it started

dusky sky
#

1640, 1660, 1680, 1700

#

surely

viral marsh
#

Hey I just read the recap of the anniversary livestream.
What does the Gem Storage mean?

vast oriole
#

Its not roster wide gems

#

Gem storage is what they call the jewels in kr

#

Its the ark grid system

limpid aurora
#

surely they will bring Roster gems on Winter LOA ON

vast oriole
#

No they wont

#

Koreans are crying MY INVESTMENT

limpid aurora
#

I know it is a pure dream

vast oriole
#

I wish they would

#

But theres no chance

limpid aurora
#

I would atleast like to see buffed drops.

#

supply for gems is way to low

vast oriole
#

I mean if people would exchange all their cube tickets for hell keys, it wouldnt be that bad

#

Tho i quite like selling lvl 5 gems for 17k

limpid aurora
#

sure but even if they wouldn't exchange (which I think not many do to begin with) Supply is still shait.
All I'm asking is like a 30% buff in gem quantiy

viral marsh
#

I agree if all went to do cubes prices would go down. They do give a lot.

#

Altho Kurzen could give some more.

shy chasm
#

Ye delay next paradise till feb

viral marsh
#

Just don't exchange

shy chasm
#

Its hard not to when you can get so many free fusions

viral marsh
#

Sure they are removing shit rewards too...

#

But 4 tickets for a leggo key. It's a level 7 gem almost.

vast oriole
#

Yep

viral marsh
#

Strike raid is getting removed with Kazeros?

limpid aurora
#

Yes

viral marsh
#

Damnit...Relic engravings...

limpid aurora
#

hmm 2 new raids, with both of them being able to drop engravings

#

think both HMs give relic for sure but not 100% sure

viral marsh
#

Ye but the strike gave one random for 8 players. A raid will just give one for 8.

smoky sun
#

Guys what would you rather choose
pushing chara 1685->1690 now
or saving the gold and pushing new chara with the events?

lavish mortar
#

I mean all you'd gain pushing now is a week or 2 of hm brel (you'll get gatekept probably)

cerulean trellis
#

at 1585 ilvl can i do the brelshaza raid too or do i do all the akkan gates

#

idk how the entry count works i forgot

minor briar
#

idk wat the event is exactly gonna be tbh

#

if its changed or not

minor briar
#

3 gold raids a week

cerulean trellis
#

oh ok

#

because i assumed u do the highest raids right

#

i find the akkan raid annoying

vast oriole
#

Highest gold raids so at 1585 its akkan kayangel brel

spring plaza
#

Is it easy to get card slots later?

#

I'm afraid of opening cards

#

I ain't planning to become homeless

smoky sun
spring plaza
torpid elbow
#

blue crystals

smoky sun
#

In game currency

#

There are blue crystals which you buy for gold
gold you get from doing raids

spring plaza
#

ok cool thank you

cerulean trellis
#

guys for gehenna helsirs solo how to get pass counter mechanic

#

my counter skill has a 10s cd

#

and i cant seem to fail less than 3 times

limpid aurora
#

if you counter him succesfully you CD resets

urban ingot
cerulean trellis
#

what am i doing wrong

#

am i doing it too late

urban ingot
#

what raids

cerulean trellis
#

i am countering when he raised his hammer

urban ingot
#

cuz the raids u giving sound really strange

delicate narwhal
#

its t3 brel gate 1

urban ingot
#

oh lmao

delicate narwhal
#

counter him the second you see the blue flash

urban ingot
#

when the sounds pop

#

u counter him

#

not earlier

vast oriole
#

Depends whats your counter

cerulean trellis
#

for gunslinger peacekeeper do i hold down or just press

delicate narwhal
#

press

vast oriole
#

Oh yeah gs counter sucks dicks

cerulean trellis
#

i cant seem to time it

#

😭

urban ingot
#

bruh

cerulean trellis
#

i try again

urban ingot
#

i think u counter the wrong side or something

delicate narwhal
#

its the front side

urban ingot
#

or just watch guide

hollow nimbus
#

am i suppose to sell the logs i gather or craft to fusions to sell?

vast oriole
#

as u want

#

if your stronghold is setup with crafting costs and all

#

craft and sell

#

if not, just sell the mats

viral marsh
#

I've wanted a Slayer for a long time. Is there any of the 2 specs that outperforms the other?

lavish mortar
#

Just play for fun CE_ThumbUpKitty2

shadow pasture
#

I notice that predator is a lot more popular compared to punisher

lavish mortar
shadow pasture
#

Is predator just a lot stronger after?

#

All I’ve seen is the garen build

bronze shell
#

Are we getting a powerpass on the 19th?

balmy plank
#

We dont know

split kayak
#

the hell keys are not gone with the paradise s2 coming right?

vast oriole
#

might want to read on the hell key

split kayak
#

oh

rose jewel
#

Imagine reading the actual game info

split kayak
#

im not in game

#

so...

rose jewel
#

Sent by Amazon

#

It has been there for days

vast oriole
#

but yea they gettign deleted

limpid aurora
#

keys in general like for future season or the ones you currently have?

vast oriole
#

thats why everyone does them

split kayak
#

i see

#

ty arna

lavish mortar
rose jewel
#

Only?

#

Really balanced if I must say

/s

lavish mortar
#

Remove it sg BDemandingbubu

rose jewel
#

No idea what that is

lavish mortar
#

You run brutal impact x6 on your bar
Then just wild stomp for syn, and hurricane for fate proc

rose jewel
#

??

#

Each button has an independent cooldown or how

limpid aurora
#

no

#

but using Whirlwind actives fate

tender flicker
#

3 button build

limpid aurora
#

fate activation resets 1 skill of the 8 from the hotbar

#

tapping whirlwind doesn't give it full CD only like 0.2 secs as the skill wasn't fully used

#

stomp is just synergies

#

Basically all you do is
Stomp for synys > Brutal > tap Whirlwind > Brutal > tap Whirlwind > Brutal > tap Whirlwind > Brutal .....

atleast that's how I understood it.

rose jewel
#

Well that's dumb but if it works

karmic harness
#

Hy guys, if I change an item from crit dmg with purple in to crit dmg legendary how much cp do i get?

tight nexus
#

so i may have understood and/or read incorrectly, but what i got rrom the express event is that it starts at 1580? does that mean my 1490(soon 1520) won't be able to participate in it?

regal lintel
#

which equipment to use to reach 1640?

tender flicker
# regal lintel which equipment to use to reach 1640?

Get to 1620 (+19 all pieces), do kenuat fortress until you get 6 equip boxes, transfer and get to 1640. If you have excess t3 stuff, you can run an echidna and at least do tempering under advanced honing in t3 as shards to not transfer.

tender flicker
tender flicker
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whatever the relic set is called for your class

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its the only gear you get from kenuat fortress

vast oriole
regal lintel
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what is kenuat fortress

obsidian valve
regal lintel
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how do i do that, i cant see that in content list

tender flicker
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did you change your ui to kazeros war map?

regal lintel
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no idea what that is either

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i dont know anything past thaemine

tender flicker
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alt + q, top right select ui, kazeros war map

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if thats not an option, you probably need to do more story

rose jewel
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?progression

buoyant dockBOT
rose jewel
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Read that

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If you don't have war map UI go beat north Kurzan msq

regal lintel
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so i need to do the main quest then, allright

rose jewel
# tight nexus so sadge! thanks

There's a lil catch with your way of playing, you ain't fully using the express if you go manually since you need akkan gear to actually start honing past 1580 (1585), so you will take a full month to get full akkan ancient, unless you use the powerpass, which it, conveniently, gives full akkan armors, so it's up to you if you wanna make an alt and pass it to get the full benefits asap (can be the same class) or just play it slow

tight nexus
vast oriole
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@rose jewelhttps://www.playlostark.com/en-gb/news/articles/team-update-progression-events powerpass and express moved to december

Lost Ark - Free to Play MMO Action RPG

We’re making a few updates and changes to the plan surrounding progression events that were previously discussed in our last roadmap.

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  • another event there
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we will get the changes that kr are getting in their dec 10 update

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so advanced honing. elixirs trans changes

rose jewel
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Yeah I saw it

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Honestly, are they stupid

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Mokoko boot camp when we have no progression event to make the mokokos reach t4

vast oriole
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yeah

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XD

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that part is dumb

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but i like the rest

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i didnt like the mokoko bootcamp in nov anyway

balmy plank
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Sounds fine to me. People are gonna be learning 2 raids & they even mention that

vast oriole
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we will be busy with progs XD

rose jewel
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Fine except the express moved

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Besides degens making their 30th alt, it helps mokos

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A lot of people already were planning on coming back and playing on the Nov patch

spring plaza
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im so lost too much stuff to learn plus my deathblade seems to be weaker than the default valkire on same gs

vast oriole
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because deathblade is actually hard to play compared to valk

rose jewel
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Db is a class where you have to have hands to properly use it

spring plaza
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With this build at least

vast oriole
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with every build

rose jewel
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With any build

vast oriole
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valk is one of the easiest char to play in any dps

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db is like 5 times harder

rose jewel
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6.9 times harder

shadow pasture
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dps valk is basically just a better and more mordern surge db lmao

livid fossil
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Leave my dps valk alone or go learn reaper

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I go play arcanist

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Don’t temp me

rose jewel
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Uhh

slate geyser
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Does anyone have the KR link that shows the Kazeros event?

balmy plank
livid fossil
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What are we getting next week

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And what are we not

gray hearth
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mokoko bootcamp and road to kazeros (or whatever they call it) will be the 19th. new powerpass, express, and some other event will be Dec