#lost-ark-help

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shadow pasture
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doesnt matter if you have a nasa pc this game is just always going to be slow

rose wren
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well understanding more about pc, nasa isnt that great

minor igloo
fleet compass
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im trying to learn what the best bonuses are for paladin, are which one would be better in this case?

lime beacon
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shield and recovery both give more cp then WP % but shield and recovery are worse lines then WP % which increases your AP buffs

fleet compass
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ahhh so even for supp pally i should be aiming for the WP %?

lime beacon
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when you get to ancient accs youll want like atleast high WP %

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shield/recovery lines dont do anything for your damage buffs where wp% does, it gives a bit less CP then the shield/recovery lines but its better.

fleet compass
fleet compass
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oki doki

lime beacon
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ally damage + ally attack power

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its just for ear where the WP % is applicable NOT ap by the way because AP % doesnt raise your base attack power which is what AP buffs are based off of, however wp% does increase your base attack power.

fleet compass
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is brand power the most important for the necklace?

lime beacon
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yes

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for paladin the piety line actually doesnt give you much

fleet compass
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like dis

lime beacon
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so go for single high on neck

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yea

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thats good for relic

fleet compass
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aight bet

wet dagger
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is there anything you can use character bound gold on that helps a roster instead of the character

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ive got like 50k from paradise on a t4 rat that i dont plan on ever building

rose wren
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dont think so

outer mason
shadow pasture
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KT actually doesnt take char bound gold

wet dagger
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does stronghold pet ability that cost 1k gold use character bound

shadow pasture
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it will take roster gold

wet dagger
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oh acessory refinement i can just use it on that

outer mason
coral meteor
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guys is there a way that my logging tool dont loose durability so fast ?

balmy plank
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Don't use it
If you're logging you'll lose durability. Nothing you can really do about that

wet dagger
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can you mail people battle items like atropines and flame scrolls?

rose wren
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i dont see why not, its on market so

wet dagger
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does it cost anything like pheons to accept them or not

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i dont think it would since no pheons when buying in market

rose wren
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ull have to find out or google

shadow pasture
rose jewel
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can you trust mokokos fully tho

bronze hill
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hey sorry noob question. which class do I pick if I want to play greatsword and dagger?

shadow pasture
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Reaper is dagger

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Berserker/slayer is greatsword

rose wren
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classic warrior berzeker and slayer for big sword, not many daggers

bronze hill
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ty both ❤️

rose wren
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if u dont mind shield with big sword, gunlance...

rose jewel
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what part of gunlancer is sword

bronze hill
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was looking for this class

shadow pasture
shadow pasture
bronze hill
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huh 😮

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explains why I didnt find it lmao

rose jewel
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uhhhhhhhhhh

shadow pasture
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i mean i listed 2 different classes

bronze hill
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lmao

rose jewel
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this aint thronw and liberty

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dif mmo, dif weapons etc

bronze hill
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ahahaha sorry wrong game LOL

rose jewel
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yeah i was wondering

bronze hill
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im high af mb

rose jewel
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happens

flint spade
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Are the mokokos hidden behind barriers hp or hit based?

rose jewel
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they have HP, but basically hit based due to the hits being 1hp each

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so, gl

rose wren
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swift+multihits

molten grove
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if my class's dmg is mostly all coming from skills that cannot be gemmed, does this mean i can basically cheap out on dmg gems altogether?

coral meteor
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whats the reason i still get kicked out of assault strike raids with 1230 cp ?

rose wren
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people just like to hate maybe ¯_(ツ)_/¯

vast oriole
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because better looking applicants

coral meteor
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i even get declined from Act 2 raid

vast oriole
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do your own lobby

coral meteor
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while there are people with 1k cp and 1680 gs

molten grove
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ur not cool enough coz ur honor is 2 low

coral meteor
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i nearly get declined in 7/10 raids

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bro i am so cool my honor is at 0

livid fossil
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deadge I swear I heard this before

molten grove
coral meteor
molten grove
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its only a prob if u get rejected 10/10 times

molten grove
coral meteor
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i dont think 1230 cp and 1700 gs is to low

molten grove
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i mean ur saying u got no issues getting into grp when ur overgeared

drifting finch
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I’ve gotten 5 honor not sure how I’m a scrub new player, prob some kind of pity honor.

molten grove
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then ur saying its not coz ur gear is 2 low

coral meteor
livid fossil
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I got 2 I am so cool

drifting finch
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Not sure what you mean have to ?

livid fossil
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Honor

molten grove
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more honor = more popular = more cool = more social acceptance

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highschool 101

livid fossil
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lol

drifting finch
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I honor people who are nice

livid fossil
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They need to scrap honor and cp

vapid bluff
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this never appeared in my product inventory. the same for everyone else?

molten grove
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cp is great honor is stupid

livid fossil
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people still trying to beg for honor in pf deadge

molten grove
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before cp gate keepers would gate keep without even understanding the maths behind potential dmg in gear

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at least with cp it helps some idiots see a number rather than guess incorrectly

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prime example, 1700 with cp 1200

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before cp ppl would think 1700 = take over 1680 now they can check cp

abstract mountain
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is there a seperate chance of getting bloodclaw 5 for every channel?

rose wren
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is that the kurzan 1? no

tender flicker
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recommend joining the global chat for it

coral meteor
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guys i created my first relic tool and got this how good is it ?

shadow pasture
coral meteor
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oh okay but i am missing all material drops

shadow pasture
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actually really good

rose wren
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treasure pouch not 69 rip

shadow pasture
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at least you have useable rolls

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at least kick tree is 41%

coral meteor
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so its not worth to create others ?

shadow pasture
coral meteor
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okay thank good its so expensive

rose wren
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its pretty decent until u can roll a perfect

loud ermine
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i have problem with game the region is closed

what i do?

coral meteor
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how would a nearly perfect one look like

abstract mountain
vast oriole
# loud ermine i have problem with game the region is closed what i do?
coral meteor
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is that really possible ?

shadow pasture
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its pretty rare to get bis

coral meteor
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to get max roll everywhere i cant imagine that axe was ever created

shadow pasture
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you have close to bis

coral meteor
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and it was my first one i have made

shadow pasture
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well congrats

coral meteor
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ty

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is it worth just money wise getting into mining ?

shadow pasture
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no?

coral meteor
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okay

jagged zinc
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?

shadow pasture
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after getting an axe like this

jagged zinc
coral meteor
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xD

rose wren
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u have more gold to gamba....

coral meteor
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not really need to buy those expensive lvl 7 gems

livid fossil
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Oh snap my t skill is gauge now for Valkyrie lol I didn’t know that now I have to look to see if I click at the right time lol

coral meteor
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do we have any endgame raids with plant bosses ?

shadow pasture
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nah

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unless you count ig ivory tower

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g1

coral meteor
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i have to choose now bonus vs human or vs plant 0.5% on my pet

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both crap ?

livid fossil
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G1 ivory UwU

jagged zinc
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gems are quite literally one of the worst investments in the game rn

rose wren
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human but yea

coral meteor
rose wren
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can still retrain pet

coral meteor
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and bonus vs machin 0.5 ?

shadow pasture
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how many legendary pets do you have

coral meteor
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right now 4

rose wren
shadow pasture
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i'd focus on stuff like demon damage and all the other bis rolls

coral meteor
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i also have epic additional damage

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should i keep that

shadow pasture
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ofc

rose wren
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yea

coral meteor
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what is better overall stats 1% or additional dmg 0.7 ?

rose wren
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they add on since its not same

shadow pasture
coral meteor
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okay i see

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i have them on 2 pets anyways

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but i am not sure when to use which pet

shadow pasture
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doesnt matter

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they are both always active

coral meteor
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what ?

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how

shadow pasture
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anything you have in the codex

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is always active

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you dont have to choose anything

coral meteor
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in what codex ?

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i am confused

shadow pasture
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pet ranch ability codex

coral meteor
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so if i have unlimited pets

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i can get unlimited skilsl

shadow pasture
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basically

coral meteor
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so would it be worth to buy 100 pets for example ?

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and train them all

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to get nice stats

shadow pasture
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no?

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theres only like a handful you need

coral meteor
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or cant you have a stat 2 times in codex

shadow pasture
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everything else is just extra

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no double stacking on abilities

coral meteor
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ahhh okay

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i thought i can have like 10 pets with stats

rose wren
coral meteor
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no but pets are like 30k i am not wrong ?

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whale little bit yes

shadow pasture
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i dont suggest buying a bunch of pets

coral meteor
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since playing again i cashed i think around 200-300€ already in 1 month

rose wren
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cost like 1.2k to gamba training each time

torpid elbow
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where do you get these wings? is it act 3 g2 rng?

coral meteor
jagged zinc
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guaranteed drop for clearing g2 without using the battle item

shadow pasture
coral meteor
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no it doesnt i always use the non cash one

shadow pasture
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the gold one has better chances since its epic-legendary

rose wren
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oh seems u got better rng...

shadow pasture
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you can choose not to use gold ofc

jagged zinc
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its 800g or a various amount of adventure seals

coral meteor
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but i got already around 7 leg. skills with the non gold variant

manic quarry
shadow pasture
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the very useless bug spray

torpid elbow
jagged zinc
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check your product inventory

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no

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universal storage

coral meteor
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what else can i buy with my adventure seals ?

jagged zinc
rose wren
torpid elbow
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omg

coral meteor
torpid elbow
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i got it mocha

rose wren
coral meteor
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i stacked my 100k but i somehow cant find the seller

errant pike
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where to get Processed Chaos Stone?

rose wren
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events only i think

coral meteor
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can i change gems from another class to my class ?

shy chasm
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Yes

coral meteor
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how ?

shy chasm
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If its tradeable

strange sky
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Im a new player hopping into the event as a gunslinger, Ive got a few questions so Im not totally lost, could anyone hop into a vc with me?

shy chasm
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You put it in roster storage and role it on the other class

coral meteor
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role it at the gem npc ?

shy chasm
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Roll*

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Yes

vast oriole
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you can ask the questions here

coral meteor
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is it worth to buy 8s for 400k ?

shy chasm
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No

vast oriole
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people dont really go vc often here

shy chasm
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I bought 8 at like 230

coral meteor
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wtf

shy chasm
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Or wait no 280

coral meteor
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why the market is fked that much right now

vast oriole
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because people dont do cubes

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because people prepare for kazeros

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because people have too much gold

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PICK YOUR REASON

coral meteor
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..

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fk that

dusky sky
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shruge you had months to buy up your gems

rose wren
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too much gold... whales alert

shy chasm
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They just started

coral meteor
strange sky
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how do I get trusted status?

vast oriole
rose wren
coral meteor
vast oriole
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yes

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its rng

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i never got more thna 30k

rose wren
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seems most people blow 500k on honing easy

vast oriole
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because of kazeros

rose wren
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rip

coral meteor
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when do they release kazeros?

vast oriole
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november

coral meteor
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okay so the whole month now will have a fkd market for new players ?

vast oriole
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yes pretty much

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new players dont buy lvl 8 gems anyway

coral meteor
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but how do i boost up my cp then ?

shy chasm
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Accs

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Karma

coral meteor
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isnt my acc from express event good ?

balmy plank
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Theyre fine as a fresh start but good in the long run? no

coral meteor
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how much would my cp be boosted

shy chasm
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Ye but you want 1 high

coral meteor
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high means orange color roll ?

vast oriole
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yes

shy chasm
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Not sure but 1 high accs are kinda cheap

coral meteor
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should i just buy it from AH ?

shy chasm
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Ofc

coral meteor
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so should i buy just not rolled high quality

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and gamble

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or buy finished ones

shy chasm
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No

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Just buy the 1 high

rose wren
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every1 basically force to buy

coral meteor
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what acc do i look for ?

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like which high stat

shy chasm
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Outgoing dmg for neck
Atk/weapon power % not base for earring
Crit rate/crit dmg for ring

coral meteor
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and the rest is not important for now

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or should they also be dmg stats

shy chasm
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The rest is never important unless your a whale

coral meteor
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okay interesting i thought its very important

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so the dmg difference isnt that big

shy chasm
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I mean it is not that it isn't

coral meteor
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how much around a bout is a 1 high worth ?

shy chasm
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Its just the price difference between 1 high and 1high+mid or high is enormous

molten grove
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u can buy l9 gem for 1mill but l8s are 380k lmao

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time to buy some 9s

dusky sky
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just buy 10s

shy chasm
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Like 1 high 1 mid is like 700k

molten grove
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cant find 10s on market

dusky sky
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pheon tax man

shy chasm
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Then 1 high is like 30k

coral meteor
dusky sky
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and pheons cost you 500k OMEGALUL

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okay hyperbole

coral meteor
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where can i find stats for every acc ?

split kayak
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Isnt when you refining there should be a list in the interface thinkge

coral meteor
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is this worth 82k ?

shy chasm
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No

coral meteor
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why not ? i thought 1 high 1 mid

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is worth a lot

shy chasm
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Thats not 1 high 1 mid

coral meteor
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what is high ?

molten grove
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thats a mid on common line not unique line

marsh grove
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they already told you %, not flat

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zzz

shy chasm
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1 high 1 mid is additional dmg and outgoing dmg%

molten grove
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attk power flat

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is common line

coral meteor
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ah okay so i need for necklace additional and outgoing dmg

molten grove
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yes

shy chasm
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Just put outgoing dmg

coral meteor
shy chasm
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And clear the rest of the slots

molten grove
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those are the values we refer to as high low mid mid high mid etc

shy chasm
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Then search

coral meteor
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so if you guys talk about high and mid you always talk about % slots ?

molten grove
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basically yeah

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think about the logic or why dont just try memorize

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reason is coz % increases from a mathmatical standpnt is giving alot more than the flat value

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considering the flat value is so little

coral meteor
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the problem is i dont even know which stats are even possible on each acc

shy chasm
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I just told you

molten grove
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it tells u when u search in market adv search

shy chasm
molten grove
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or if u go to gem expert

coral meteor
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you told me this right Outgoing dmg for neck
Atk/weapon power % not base for earring
Crit rate/crit dmg for ring

molten grove
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it tells u all the possibilities when u roll it

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go gem expert to roll accessories it tells u all possible combos

marsh grove
coral meteor
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but what other stat should i look after for neck after i found a outgoing dmg neck

shy chasm
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Nothing

molten grove
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i mean refining npc yeah

shy chasm
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Just outgoing dmg

coral meteor
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okay

molten grove
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u should be able to tell just looking at the options available from the npc

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the question ud have is probably which is better outgoing dmg% or additional dmg % etc...

shy chasm
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And atk/ weapon power means 1 earring take atk power 1 earring take weapon power same for the rings

coral meteor
coral meteor
molten grove
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when u get to rings u gotta do some maths

shy chasm
coral meteor
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for real this game expects a damn lot of you to finally have fun

molten grove
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crit rate% vs crit dmg %

coral meteor
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have to learn and remember so many things

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its crazy

molten grove
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u can complete a raid with the accessories u give nfor free technically

coral meteor
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i try to buy piece by piece my acc now and ask you before buying it

molten grove
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ur tryin g2 min max to increase cp to get into parties, its a diff thingg

shy chasm
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He honed to 1700 too quick and now needs to fix his character

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And he's like 1100 cp

marsh grove
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hes 1700? dx

molten grove
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lmfao

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classic

marsh grove
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yeah keep asking questions man

coral meteor
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yea i am 1700 but now 1230 cp 😄

marsh grove
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these guys will get u fixed

molten grove
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u need 2 slow down and play the game

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coz hands and raid knowledge > gear

coral meteor
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of course but the express event

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was so easy to hit 1700

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i didnt even do anything special

molten grove
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thats coz u spent money

marsh grove
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easy? 1680-->1700 is still like 600-800k in pure gold?

molten grove
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no shot u just got to 1700 on fresh account so easily

split kayak
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Here i am struggling to get 1680

coral meteor
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its not fresh account

molten grove
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deathboi alrdy made video

coral meteor
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its my account from release with over 700k worth of foudner pack skins when i came back

molten grove
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it takes a vet like 2 months to get 1700

coral meteor
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before i left the game 3 years ago i spent all my gold and bought the founder skins for i think 20-30k each

molten grove
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then yeah u got alot to study

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coz ur like progressing 2fast

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start with reading the lost ark nexus guides for ur class in depth

coral meteor
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i am totally lost in nearly all raids yea

molten grove
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then trixion parse

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all of this is going to teach u why u need what gear

coral meteor
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i am only good in solo raids

molten grove
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dont use solo raids as an indicator

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its dumed down too much

rose wren
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atleast they can dodge...

molten grove
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its only there to teach u SOME of the very basic mech

coral meteor
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and they also show mechanics where the boss gets blue

molten grove
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yeah counter

coral meteor
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the thing is how can i learn the raid

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if no one even dares to invite me in his party

molten grove
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anyways u should study the nexus guide for ur class, trixion parse and try get ur dps to a reasoanble lvl, do raids and understand how to play the game well THEN ul understand what u need to work on better

coral meteor
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even though i have read the guide for the raid like 4 times

molten grove
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otherwise ul need like a tutor

split kayak
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Learning party discord CorgiConcern

shadow pasture
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Join learning parties

split kayak
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Idk if eu has

molten grove
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this game is not designed for u to just staright get 1700 knowing little and can just ask 10 questeions and be done

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theres alot of nuance per class and per raid etc

rose wren
coral meteor
molten grove
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to make it worse, mordum g3 has a boss that doesnt move

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so everything u learnt goes out the window if kaz moves alot

coral meteor
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i get gatekeeped at brelzsasa so i am far away from ordum i think

molten grove
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this is all nuanced non cookie cutter stuff ul learn over time

shadow pasture
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Kaz doesn’t actually move that much

molten grove
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then u got positionals to consider PER BOSS and also gauge management

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so if u play gl who is tanky

errant pike
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Do u need 1670 to unlock north kurzan second dungeon?

molten grove
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hes shit vs bosses that fill ur gauge for tanking a hit

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etc... etc....

rose wren
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all these silly requirements r just to get u into groups with gatekeepers, otherwise its completely doable with whatever u have

marsh grove
molten grove
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but if ur just trying to figure out how to inflate cp so u can imposter into a party

coral meteor
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dont u guys think sometimes that they really exaggerate with the mechanics of all the new raids ?

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like just put any weird and confusing stuff together to make it even harder everytime?

vast oriole
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yes its clearable

molten grove
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then i suggest u do ur karma elixirs, trasndence then buy some gems and accessories and get a good bracelet

vast oriole
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but no one wants to risk it

molten grove
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this game is NOT friendly to ppl on ilvl with bad gear

coral meteor
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now the problem i have is another one

molten grove
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its SO HARD

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esp since u have bad gear AND dont know how to play the raid at the same time

rose wren
coral meteor
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i invested now the express and gold in my slayer and i dont want to main her anymore so i just want to get her at a decent CP to not get gatekeeped with her so i can farm more gold for my new main

molten grove
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lmao

coral meteor
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what would be the best/cheapest method to not invest too much but get a decent CP

molten grove
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thats going to be VERY expensive coz the event u used on ur slayer saved u a TONN of gold

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ur next char is gonna be like so much more expensive

coral meteor
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..

shy chasm
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There's no way you can build a new char while fixing this one

vast oriole
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or just do solo mode with your slayer if you dont want to invest in her

coral meteor
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i thought i fix this one first

shadow pasture
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Rip those 1700 chest

vast oriole
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brel solo is prob coming soonish

molten grove
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i highly dont recommend u main swap when u jsut got 1700

coral meteor
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and built my new char very slowly

split kayak
coral meteor
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i am fine with playing slayer at 1700 for the next 2 months

molten grove
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just the l7 gems u got for free, they're 140k each, the bonus honing, all the fusion mats u got are 100g EACH etc...

vast oriole
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dont build the new one, theres express in november

coral meteor
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but i just dont want to put too much money into her

livid fossil
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Then stop paying money

coral meteor
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i mean gold

molten grove
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u have no idea how much gold u saved from using that event the next char is NOT going to be easy

coral meteor
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not €

coral meteor
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so when would be the best point to stop investing in my 1700 slayer with 1200 cp .. xD

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i mean i cant leave her like that

livid fossil
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And stop spending gold on toon you won’t be using

coral meteor
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she will give me 0 benefits

coral meteor
livid fossil
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That’s you problem

vast oriole
split kayak
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Do solo raids no need think cp CorgiConcern hoard gold till nov express and go ham on the new char

vast oriole
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since you dont want to main her

shadow pasture
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Just do normal raids

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Like normal mordum nm brel

vast oriole
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they are being gatekept from those

coral meteor
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so i should not buy acc on her now ?

shadow pasture
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Oh right

livid fossil
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Yeah

shadow pasture
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I thought they meant the hm versions of them

coral meteor
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from brel normal mode i get gatekeeped

livid fossil
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About that

coral meteor
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and assault strike too

vast oriole
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did you even try to do your own lobby

shy chasm
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Even with 1100 you can get into brel nm just look for learning parties

shadow pasture
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Ig it’s a solo mode angle if you don’t want to invest

coral meteor
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yes i got nearly no people that applied except people with way lower gear than me

vast oriole
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well yeah you need to take your patience

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either that or you just do solo modes

shadow pasture
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Pick your classes wisely shruge

coral meteor
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is 1500 cp good for not being gatekeeped ?

vast oriole
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yes

coral meteor
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is so shit

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that i want to cry

split kayak
coral meteor
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how can they let you test a class with a build you will never use

vast oriole
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i mean you couldve just stopped honing at 1680

coral meteor
#

thats the most stupid thing i have ever heard

coral meteor
vast oriole
#

yep

shadow pasture
#

That is true the class tester is horrible

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But it’s on purpose

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So they make people like you main swap KEKW

coral meteor
livid fossil
#

lol

coral meteor
#

but now with the right build i like her a lot

coral meteor
#

no wonders they lost 90% of their playerbase in the last 3 years even though they have nearly the best combat system in any mmo

vast oriole
#

ok but game isnt from ags

#

the playerbase went down a lot in the first year because it was the new game

#

it always happens

#

its nothign new

coral meteor
#

the one who decided that they will never release sub class exchange tickets

#

is a morron

vast oriole
#

nothing about the game

sick galleon
#

whats a good spot to hunt

vast oriole
#

why would they release class change ticket

#

if main swapping will get them more money?

vast oriole
sick galleon
#

t4 i guess

coral meteor
#

dont you think that more people left instead of spending more money ?

vast oriole
#

people didnt leave because they couldnt main swap

marsh grove
#

you can say the class testing system is shit but if you spend more time researching options you won't make a "mistake"

vast oriole
vast oriole
coral meteor
vast oriole
#

trixion is doodoo

marsh grove
sick galleon
marsh grove
#

and ive been having a blast

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I quit 2-3 months into release

sick galleon
coral meteor
#

which class did you pick

vast oriole
#

their biggest mistake wasnt that they picked slayer
its that they honed to 1700

coral meteor
#

i love my slayer if she would be a hit master class

marsh grove
#

had glavier/zerker/gunslinger and others from launch

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made valk

coral meteor
#

i just cant stand the backattack stuff

marsh grove
#

ill send u a pic

sick galleon
#

nvm already did

#

south rimeria

vast oriole
#

yeah that you shouldve asked and we would have said shes a back attacker

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xD

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or even watched video of classes

coral meteor
#

i watched videos but

marsh grove
#

any "pick your class" video starts off with Back attk vs not

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not any, but most

coral meteor
#

come on if you are new you accidentally click on the best slayer of the whole game

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and think you can do it too

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since it looks so easy on him

vast oriole
#

not really no

coral meteor
#

that happened to me

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every slayer video i watched

vast oriole
#

btetter to watch video on ''what classes to pick'' and shit

coral meteor
#

looked easy as fk

vast oriole
#

like cauttyh guide

coral meteor
#

i watched cauttyh class guide

vast oriole
#

its also not that hard to back attack on slayer

coral meteor
#

sadly valk wasnt released

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and he didnt put her in that video

molten grove
#

I think u made a cpl of critical errors and to fix ur would depend on how much ur current account has done

If ur current account doesn’t have most horizontal stuff done and u mostly just have gold which can be transferred, and u hate ur slayer and definitely wanna main ur valk the better method is to just make a new account so u get the event and everything again and use it on ur valk then funnel ur gold from ur main to there

vast oriole
#

you just need to get used to it

coral meteor
#

otherwise i would have picked her

marsh grove
vast oriole
molten grove
#

Coz u honed passed 1690 so u lost ur mokoko status thus ur valk will have a even harder time getting parties

vast oriole
#

or the week after

molten grove
#

Oh then yeah pretty jover

vast oriole
#

it was october 15 i think

coral meteor
#

i think i have a bit of horizontal stuff done already

vast oriole
#

for express

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road is november something

coral meteor
#

but since you guys say there is another express in november

split kayak
coral meteor
#

i can wait

shy chasm
#

Oh ye thats true I just realized your missing cp cuz you dont have the horizontal emlightment pots

molten grove
#

What’s going to happen is if u don’t whale ur valk abit it’s gonna get stuck around 1660-1680 without any event help thus the mokoko status matters a lot coz u need Brel to unlock karma

sharp flare
#

wat does HW mean in the group finder

vast oriole
#

if the mokoko doesnt know the things, i was just telling them to die XD

coral meteor
#

yea i dont have them @shy chasm

vast oriole
split kayak
#

Oh i should prob find those lobbies kekW

coral meteor
#

but i try to get themr ight now

rose wren
#

@sick galleonthere's also leaves in t3 zones

molten grove
livid fossil
#

That would be me

marsh grove
#

everyone will always tell you that u should start on enlightenment pots ASAP, haven't you been back 2 months already?

livid fossil
#

I would die for just the karma

shy chasm
coral meteor
#

no i cant remember anyone talked about enlightment pots with me

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but i didnt asked so

split kayak
#

Im at 1678 and the learning parties are mostly mordums and brel hard

livid fossil
#

Not asking Weirdga

molten grove
#

I’m working on my third alt upon returning atm and I can tell u from experience it’s really bad for my alts coz the honing is ALOT without the event so ur stuck at 1660-1680 for ages unless u whale abit with ur gold

lost basin
#

how do i take an item out from skin codex to sell it

molten grove
#

This means a lot of nm brels to unlock karma over time

sick galleon
#

@marsh grove the spot u know theres a lot of rabbits?

molten grove
#

U don’t get the extra potions either ur main got

livid fossil
#

There was one learning party I tried to join and got denied lol

sick galleon
#

punika?

coral meteor
#

will karma boost my cp by a lot ?

livid fossil
#

Sadge

shy chasm
rose wren
lost basin
#

then what?

#

i dont see an option

coral meteor
#

i am missing 2 greater skill potions 1 normal skill potion and 2 enlightment potions

molten grove
#

One thing u have going for u is u have a 1700 main so u can do ur gold raids then do Brel nm without gold to learnt the raid, ul get in easily due to high ilvl

shy chasm
lost basin
#

does it need to be undyed?

shy chasm
#

Oh wrong ping

molten grove
#

Then once u learn fight u can join in reclear runs with ur alt

livid fossil
#

VWeirdga

molten grove
#

Only issue is u no longer have koko icon so ur alt needs to be relatively geared as much as a vet player would have their alt geared

shy chasm
#

Oh nvm

sick galleon
#

the hell i found 3 ppl farming a thing and it looks like they botting XD

coral meteor
shy chasm
molten grove
coral meteor
#

tbh i rushed to 1700 because i didnt want to loose the chest that u get at 1700 since it will be deleted on 15.10

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it was fomo

shy chasm
#

That chest isn't really that worth

sick galleon
marsh grove
#

doesnt the 1700 chest expire in like november or december?

coral meteor
#

yea i noticed it now that it wasnt worth

shy chasm
#

Its barely any mats for what you actually need

molten grove
#

Coz he lost mokoko on his alt

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That’s his new main

#

And he’s gonna be stuck at 1660-1680 for awhile

coral meteor
#

i mean that wont be my main either if we really get an express in november

molten grove
#

Yeah u gotta choose in this game

coral meteor
#

i will create another valk with the express and leave my valk now at 1640

molten grove
#

Every flip flop is a huge cost

coral meteor
#

i didnt knew that

shadow pasture
#

i mean its fine

shy chasm
#

Why would you do that

coral meteor
#

i thought its easy to change class

shadow pasture
#

better than just sticking witha class you dislike

coral meteor
molten grove
#

U cannot change class at all in this game u can only make an alt that eventually surpasses ur main SLOWLY

lost basin
#

its not working?

shy chasm
marsh grove
#

what do you want to do? @lost basin

lost basin
#

take it out

coral meteor
lost basin
#

and sell it

molten grove
marsh grove
rose wren
shy chasm
marsh grove
shy chasm
#

No

coral meteor
#

is there any benefit of using my valk at 1640 for the next express char instead of creating a new one ?

shy chasm
#

Not really for where your at

coral meteor
#

i thought if creating a new one i will have still my valk at 1640 to grind gold with her

shadow pasture
#

you will be stocking up on a shitton of shards

molten grove
#

The way this game works is whether u like the class or not the game doesn’t care the question becomes are u gonna whale or not coz if ur both not gonna whale and u wanna just class swap Willy nilly then ul just have to do everything 100x slower than everyone else

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From an efficiency perspective ur basically stuck playing ur “main” as im hes the primary source of revenue

shadow pasture
#

i dont see whats wrong with him wanting to mainswap

coral meteor
#

thats why

molten grove
#

There’s nothing wrong he just has to start over with no express and play his main anyway to generate gold for his new main

marsh grove
#

it kind of feels like language barrier

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he's defending you

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not questioning you

shadow pasture
#

lmao

molten grove
#

Which is the same shit as if he just classed it as second main

livid fossil
#

lol

coral meteor
#

english isnt even my second language

molten grove
#

Which is just alt

coral meteor
#

so i try my best

rose wren
#

well every1 lucky that they're doing these event otherwise suffering the normal progression of how the game is design for

shadow pasture
#

well its whatever honestly

coral meteor
#

did you guys all suffered the normal progression ?

shadow pasture
#

next express bro will have basically 2 1700s

molten grove
#

The normal progression is so bad man

#

My alts are struggling unless I whale

rose wren
coral meteor
shy chasm
#

Well first off dont hone to 1700

obsidian valve
molten grove
#

There’s no shot I can just not play my main and alts to funnel an alt I wanna main swap with unless I wanna be extremely behind

livid fossil
#

I don’t whale

obsidian valve
#

+200

coral meteor
shy chasm
#

You hone to 1680 and sit there till you can get your cp to atleast 1300-1400

coral meteor
#

is just way worse

obsidian valve
#

mine's still low though KEKDog

molten grove
#

This game leaves u behind so fast

shadow pasture
#

you kind of have to accept that you will always be behind compared to people that played for years

marsh grove
rose wren
molten grove
#

Nah I’m caught up raid wise in a few weeks but if I main swap then there’s no way unless i whale

shadow pasture
marsh grove
#

one of the 1660s is shadowhunter

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and people say shes doggy later on

#

I might try to replace

rose wren
coral meteor
#

haha

shadow pasture
molten grove
#

DI only requires 2 gems btw

shadow pasture
#

but if you want to replace go ahead

marsh grove
shadow pasture
#

like theres nothing wrong with mainswapping

molten grove
#

Most ppl aren’t considering that extra % dmg just from that

shadow pasture
#

if you accept that you wont be able to "catchup" with other people

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gotta remove the fomo

coral meteor
marsh grove
#

if you really want to "catchup" you'll have to dump a lot more than 200-300 euros

coral meteor
#

since you need 6 in high lvls anyways to grind enough gold

shadow pasture
#

you have a 1700 at least generating gold

#

that better than all the fresh newbies with just 1 char

molten grove
#

This game is so ass if u not caught up I missed thaemine prog and after I return it’s hard to find a party of 7 who is willing to adjust their CP to the same point in time when the prog first happened so just a bunch of over geared players reking the boss

#

Not what I want

coral meteor
shadow pasture
#

arna said it so shruge

shy chasm
#

Its in roadmap

sick galleon
#

november?

shy chasm
#

But what the express is we donno

sick galleon
#

isnt 15 october?

shy chasm
#

This express ends 15 oct

coral meteor
#

is the only way to get pheon to pay with blue crystals ?

molten grove
#

from what i heard youtubers say in kr the event was pretty shit

marsh grove
#

recent events and stuff should have given you 200+? I think

molten grove
#

like didnt give u much mats

sick galleon
#

900

#

i had 900

marsh grove
#

yeah I have more too but my new acc has 200-300 so

coral meteor
#

i have 381 right now

molten grove
#

my best experience in this game was progging clown on ilvl then ivory tower on ilvl with my 3 rl friends

marsh grove
#

im still just waiting for kazeros skins

#

zzzZZ

coral meteor
molten grove
#

was gonna get 1 for my gl but

#

i dropped my gl for valk

#

i hate the 6 char limit b.s so much

marsh grove
#

I mean with paradise changes its not even a 6 char limit anymore

#

any t4 alts = possible books 🙂

molten grove
#

i jus wanna raid on all my alts per week and get some gold so i can buy shit they need

#

but forever stuck in this cycle of new class comes out, who do i have 2 drop in my roster now b.s

coral meteor
#

i also fked up my karma levels a bit

sick galleon
coral meteor
#

how can i fix it ?

sick galleon
#

playing beyond 6 chars its soul sucking

#

imean

shy chasm
#

Wdym

coral meteor
#

i have evo at rank1 lvl 4 enlightment at rank2 lvl 5 and leap at rank1 lvl 1

sick galleon
#

until u set them

shy chasm
#

Thats fine

sick galleon
#

if u have already setup on there its just dailies and raids

molten grove
#

yeah my chars are all set up

coral meteor
#

so leap can stay at low ?

molten grove
#

gl is such a good class as an alt

shy chasm
#

Ye till you do enlightenment

molten grove
#

but does Z in higher echelons so i dont ever wanna main it

coral meteor
#

so what priority should i do for evo enlight and leap

shy chasm
#

You dont get much out of leap till it's max so do enlightenment first

molten grove
#

enlight > leap > evo

coral meteor
#

enlight to max ? and then leap and than evo ?

molten grove
#

by max its not really max max but like l20+

split kayak
#

Brel solo is with kaz release
Or have to wait for LoA On to announce it for kr first?

shy chasm
#

They didnt say

shadow pasture
#

wait till loaon to see

shy chasm
#

But they probably say it at uh loaon

coral meteor
split kayak
#

Do they usually patch it to west after announce or have to wait kr have it first?

molten grove
#

makes sense to make brel solo otherwise karma gated

shadow pasture
molten grove
#

like would be such a stupid thingg to not do it

shadow pasture
#

rank 6

molten grove
shadow pasture
#

but you can leave it rank 5 if you want

coral meteor
#

okay thanks a lot guys for all the help

molten grove
#

valk is like a easy surge blade

split kayak
#

I see
That'd be quite long

molten grove
#

i dont have the hands for surge so enjoying my valk lmfao

shy chasm
#

But I dont think they'll keep us long knowing how helpfull solo brel will be

molten grove
#

i LOVE one gem heroes like surge/valk coz feels good to buy a l10 gem and slap it on 1 skill and feel that dmg efficiency

#

nekminit my tai scrapper requires basically no gems coz all her dmg is coming from the 2 skills that are not gemmable lmfao

rose wren
coral meteor
#

lets say i use express event on my char that is already 1640. Will i get further with him instead of expressing a new char ?

molten grove
#

of course

#

why would u not

coral meteor
#

okay now i understand why you said that @shy chasm

coral meteor
#

so i thought maybe i loose a bit of the start from the express or so

molten grove
shy chasm
#

You'll skip the whole 1585 to 1640

#

So that already alot

rose wren
#

we have 0 details on nov express

molten grove
#

so if ur alrdy at the ilvl u dont need the stuff they give u thus move onto next ilvl

coral meteor
#

okay so i will just have more honing mats left

molten grove
#

no coz u dont even get them

#

u just skip it

#

i.e mats from 1585 to 1600 u would skip coz ur alrdy 1640

#

but mats from 1640 u get coz ur 1640

#

dont over think it just put it on the char u wanna main

#

and dont swap mains like changing u clothes

#

unless u wanna forever be behind which is fine

coral meteor
molten grove
#

the main reason y u cant decide is coz u dont play the game enough

#

u should play alot on all the classes u like to decide which u like most and what will tilt u

coral meteor
molten grove
#

like when i first started i mained igniter sorc but progging on her tilts me coz she at the time had zero movement abilities and slow as shit

coral meteor
#

playing them in t1 or t2 isnt the same as t4 i think

molten grove
#

so i realized the char i like to prog on the most which is my main is a char that has good mobility

#

and u can use a skill whenever u want coz u dunno fight yet ur not gonna use it at right time

#

thus main swapped to slayer

rose wren
molten grove
#

etc...

molten grove
coral meteor
molten grove
#

the only main diff imo between a main and one of my strongest alts is u prog on ur main so i simplified the equation to which class feels the best to prog on and thats my main simple and effective

coral meteor
#

do people gatekeep my only because of my cp or what are they looking at ?

shy chasm
#

Your cp doesn't match the ilvl

coral meteor
#

so at 1700 i should have how much cp ?

shy chasm
#

If you were 1680 you'd be fine honestly

#

I'm 1700 and I'm 1672

molten grove
coral meteor
#

damn

molten grove
#

dude ur not gonna have alot of cp coz u rushed with ilvl only and didnt complete all the other stuff

coral meteor
#

what am i missing that i have 400 lower cp

marsh grove
#

.>

shy chasm
#

Well I mean I have full 8s and full karma

molten grove
#

did u max transcence, cut 5/5 elixirs, finish karma, got ur enight pots etc... etc...

coral meteor
#

do i gain a lot from 2 greater skill point potion and 2 englight potions ?

molten grove
#

get a good bracelet

#

accessories

coral meteor
#

trans at lvl 6 isnt high right ?

shy chasm
#

What

molten grove
#

max trans

shy chasm
#

Trans should be 7

molten grove
#

just max it

shy chasm
#

Nothing less

molten grove
#

keep cutting exlirs

#

get 5/5s

shy chasm
#

7 and 20/21 stats

#

Stars*

coral meteor
#

i cutted around 50 elixirs and didnt got one with 5/5 sadly

molten grove
#

improve ur wpn quality to 90+

molten grove
coral meteor
molten grove
#

ok thats 1 thing u can tick off the list

#

work on good bracelet

#

2 main stat lines and min 2 dmg lines purple or better or 3 blues min

coral meteor
#

does vitality also count for main stat

molten grove
#

tbh u dont have to do 1700 content u can just do 1680 content with 1700 char

coral meteor
#

or are u guys talking about str and swift for example

coral meteor
molten grove
#

if u just do 1680 content on ur 1700 char u only need like 1.25-1.3k cp

shy chasm
#

Main stat is crit/swift/spec

#

Anything else is additional

molten grove
#

dude 7/10 deny is fine of a stat

#

u only need 1/10 success rate to finish a raid

#

eventually ul get a title for completing raids and they will help tremendously in ur case in particular

coral meteor
#

okay i try tomorrow again to get into brel

#

i need to do it at least this and next week since i still get a lot of karmas from event

molten grove
#

r u learning or reclear for brel

shy chasm
#

You should be able to get lvl 4 on enl cuz of the valk express

#

So you should try to do brels before it expires

coral meteor
molten grove
#

if ur reclear and u getting denied its coz ppl think u should be doing hm

coral meteor
#

and i think i died since i cant remember

#

doing the mechanics

#

but they cleared it

molten grove
#

siggn up to learning parties in the mokoko discord if u want

molten grove
#

hard mode

coral meteor
#

oh okay

molten grove
#

vets arent gonna run nm brel at 1700 so they will assume ur new

coral meteor
#

people notice too much in this game

#

the can smell that i am new

molten grove
#

thats true in any game lmao

marsh grove
#

nobody wants to run with dead weight

molten grove
#

in counter strike i see a guy move for 2s and i can tell if hes new or not

coral meteor
#

but everyone was once dead weight

#

and i think if you would gate keeped the same as new players nowadays get it wouldnt be fun either

molten grove
#

in rl companies dont wanna hire grads and grads cant get work exp coz ppl dont hire them same logic here

#

its just human nature

coral meteor
#

but come on some times its just stupid

#

to gatekeep my 1700 from behemoth raid

#

happened also

#

i got denied in many raids in behe

molten grove
#

thats y its so important to keep up like i mentioned earlier coz duringg release everyone is on prog

shy chasm
#

No that one is just a random occurrence

#

Idk why they'd gatekeep you

molten grove
#

it was so easy to get into tarkal grp on release

coral meteor
#

i also didnt understood

shy chasm
#

But I won't just take 1 example and run with it forever

marsh grove
#

you're making a ton of assumptions

#

saying that you're getting "gatekept" on behe

#

etc

molten grove
molten grove
#

theres no shot ppl are gate keeping u on behe

coral meteor
#

after getting denied 4 times in behe

#

i didnt tried it anymore

molten grove
#

i get into behe at cp 400

#

1640

coral meteor
#

than i tried assault strike maybe 20 times

#

didnt got accepted one time

#

then i tried brel this week

#

also around 20 times

#

not 1 that accepted

molten grove
#

paste ur char name

coral meteor
#

so i had to do the 1660 stuff

molten grove
#

let me have a look at ur char

#

to see what looks so bad

coral meteor
marsh grove
#

of course you're going to get frustrated if you don't understand how anything works or the nuances to joining parties? you're just assuming like 80% of what you're saying

coral meteor
#

i dont know if its normal to wait 1 hour until i finally find a brel group

#

i often do it like that i log in try to get a group

#

if i cant find after 10 mins

#

i do lower lvl stuff

shy chasm
#

If your looking for learning parties thats how it is

molten grove
#

wait bro its saying u have 3 jewelery with quality of 40

#

wtf

shy chasm
#

Brel is an "old" raid now

molten grove
#

thats alarming fix it

shy chasm
#

Wait what

coral meteor
#

i have all 70 and 2 80+

molten grove
#

hmmm ok

coral meteor
#

that are those from event

#

70 quality

molten grove
#

nvm site bug then

#

besides bracelet looking meh ur char is fine

#

no shot ppl are gate keeping u that hard

coral meteor
#

maybe people dont like slayer ?

molten grove
#

u even have relic MPE engravingg

shy chasm
#

Well uh the only way your gonna get into brel with no one looking at you weird is if you get your cp to where it should be or you look for learning parties or just if the lead doesn't inspect you, your already pretty far behind so just keep trying

molten grove
#

which is a vet move

#

nah my alt slayer getting parties np

#

weaker than his by quite abit

coral meteor
#

can they see from my achievments that i am a new player or so ?

molten grove
#

no they cant

coral meteor
coral meteor
#

maybe it will be better then

shy chasm
#

You should be looking for learning parties

coral meteor
shy chasm
#

Brel isn't tok hard but you do need some practice for the last part of g2

#

Too*

#

145 mech is where you find out who's an imposter and who not

molten grove
#

theres diff types of learn parties

#

some have mentor some are like all noob and proggingg

coral meteor
#

i once managed to get into rimera strike raid

#

and after a certain spot

#

they called me the imposter

molten grove
#

but your char is very strong for nm brel so if anything u should be dps carrying

coral meteor
#

and asked me to leave

marsh grove
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because your dmg is low and you probably don't understand any mechanics

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so.. yeah

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for strike raid

molten grove
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u picked a very good class for a main

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its very easy to play

coral meteor
molten grove
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mobile, tanky, insane stagger

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yeah hitmaster is even easier

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but pred slayer is S tier in terms of overall ease and good for prog to do the mechs etc... as long as dps is not lacking severely

coral meteor
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at first i picked reaper but i noticed very fast that she is my nightmare

coral meteor
molten grove
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reaper is so bad for new player main

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unless u want a challenge and like that play style which is fine

coral meteor
molten grove
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but generally squishy and hard 2 play

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lol

coral meteor
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i like the playstyle but i am so bad and nearly dont do any dmg on her

molten grove
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personally i think its not a good idea to pick a hard squishy class as a main coz on prog if ur always the one dying ur grp is gonna get sick of u first

coral meteor
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yea i can imagine that

molten grove
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i got alts that needs hands so they dont fk with my prog runs on raid release but obvsly u could just git good like mattchupichu hehe

shy chasm
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Being honest just cuz your bad at slayer doesn't mean your gonna be good at valk everything at the end of the day takes some practice

still hearth
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I knowledge transferred one of my alts to 500 iLvL and I went to beatrice to get my 2nd awakening, after reading the note and completing it I don't see the item in my inventory?

shy chasm
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You talk to her

molten grove
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oh make sure the reason ur picking valk over slayer is NOT coz u think slayer is hard and valk is ez

shy chasm
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Or wait

coral meteor
molten grove
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coz im telling u rn pred slayer is a VERY EASY class

coral meteor
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since my screen is full of skills and abilities from me and all the party members

molten grove
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lol

shy chasm
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That isn't an issue with your class

molten grove
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u can change opacity of ur skills etc

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and ur class has very little animation issues vs a sorc and other classes

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where u literally cant c anything

shy chasm
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Oh that thing

coral meteor