new players hitting 1680 are like 1000-1100
#lost-ark-help
molten grove
if ur 1000 at 1680 then ur clearly spending $0 gold and look like a beggar
split kayak
should i buy the fusion right now or wait price drop?
marsh grove
from the perspective of a new player just hitting 1680 they're not going to have any gold??
split kayak
signal aurora
i mean, event passes push people to 1680 faster than many players are ready for. 1k is low for people that know the game. but it's expected for people who don't imo. They'll be able to get to 1200+ once they learn stuff
molten grove
i mean up 2 u, u need high ilvl to get more gold and by not getting to 1680 u make significantly less gold so u can save on less gold lol
marsh grove
yeah no worries im not trying to argue that 1680 isnt important
for a new player who doesnt get lucky with bracelet 1250 is going to take time
is all
no title
low cp
its hard to find groups
molten grove
u should be dumping every cent u have into items that boost ur cp significantly
shadow pasture
should i buy the fusion right now or wait price drop?
I dont really suggest buying fusions
express + paradise should be plenty for your fusions needs to 1680
molten grove
so like event lvl 7 gems, bracelet from paradise but do ur karma, buy an accessory if u need to etc
signal aurora
yea it takes time to learn and overcome rng. but 1680 is a nice spot to atleast start getting ancient acc and bracelet
shadow pasture
if need more you can just lifeskill and craft fusions
molten grove
rn this game is extremely bias towards being 1680, sub 1680 is really bad
marsh grove
im just trying to give him the full picture of what it'll look like when he hits 1680 with low cp
instead of "bro at 1680 I was 1250 cp"
signal aurora
getting the enlightenment stuff from hortizontal was a huge step up when i came back. I ignored it for awhile cause i didn't understand anything. but it helps alot
marsh grove
but yeah, push 1680 is of course worth it
molten grove
idk man most 1680s i see in lobbies are like 1350-1550 im considered low lol
signal aurora
yea, like if ur 1680 with low cp. ur pretty much a tanky 1660.
marsh grove
hes a fresh player who will be freshly hitting 1680 man
molten grove
just doing ur karma boosts aLOT of CP and u should have done brel for 2 weeks alrdy
marsh grove
karma costs a ton of gold and takes time
molten grove
event is giving u alot of potions to boost
molten grove
i mean telling him this is useless coz he still needs to get 1680 regardless
signal aurora
indeed. i just learned brel nm, and got a few brel nm clears. it's gonna be a long journey
spring wave
20 elixirs rolled, not even a single 5/3, lol.
signal aurora
at the least. hitting 1680 lets u get better braclets from paradise lul. and can work on anc accesories. if struggling, can just spend a few weeks doing solo aegir for gold etc.
molten grove
also allows u to do nm brel signiicantly easier even if u didnt do the other raids
signal aurora
20 elixirs rolled, not even a single 5/3, lol.
there's nothing fun about elixirs lul. even with it being "better now" it's just not fun to do
signal aurora
also allows u to do nm brel signiicantly easier even if u didnt do the other rai...
yea, thought depending on how new they are. they might not be ready to learn normal brel. depends on if they have a teacher, and patient group.
and how much juice the group has to make up for etc.
i mean, i guess the more the learn and practice, the better. i am happy that i found a group of new and returning players to prog with
molten grove
the irony of this game is if ur weak u should not play with others who are also weak
gleaming marsh
hi guys, just hit 1680 with my first alt, was wondering, should I buy 5 ancient accessories ? What can be the price for 5 decent accessories in total ? Im dps
signal aurora
the irony of this game is if ur weak u should not play with others who are also ...
u shouldn't and should at the same time lul. it's like yea... u knwo
spring wave
@dim pulsar Is something like this usable/worth keeping at 4/4 .. ?
molten grove
4/4 is fine
dim pulsar
usable
molten grove
use it til u cut better
spring wave
Okay :/
signal aurora
just getting the 40 elixir set is all that matters at first
molten grove
4/4 is the same total as 5/3 just less optimized u just want the 40 set bonus then upgrade over time
signal aurora
ahhh, yea. that is.. i have nothing to say for that haha
dim pulsar
4/4 free was Master+weapon so its better this
molten grove
u shouldn't and should at the same time lul. it's like yea... u knwo
playing with a whole group of fresh poorly geared players make the raid as hard as thaemine the first lol
gleaming marsh
hi guys, just hit 1680 with my first alt, was wondering, should I buy 5 ancient ...
sorry to spam, but can someone answer ? 🙂
dim pulsar
350-500k depen if u buy single high or mid/mid-high/low
signal aurora
playing with a whole group of fresh poorly geared players make the raid as hard ...
It's a make or break situation in that. the ones that can stick through it will learn alot. The ones that can't are gonna have a terrible time lul. the game has a seriouslearning curve depening on the person
molten grove
this game should be scaling the boss to team's overall CP IMO but they rather have vets think raids are too ez that its boring and new players thinking raids are impossible
signal aurora
this game should be scaling the boss to team's overall CP IMO but they rather ha...
there's such a disconnect in that it seems. it's like dude. yea it's easy when u got thousands of hours of derp. but man.;. i remember when i first started. i got pooped on hard cause i was used to games where u just hit buittons and win
still. the game in it self should provide for all skill levels
molten grove
like this game is actually insanely hard if ur entire team is exactly on ilvl and using the most budget gear the events give u for free like a new player
signal aurora
dude progging clown when it came out was brutal
molten grove
it should be the reverse where new players experience a ezier version of the raid then progressive gets harder as u get better
instead its the opposite experience lol
signal aurora
yea it's kinda derp like that. u learn the game bette.r get stronger. and everything becomes easier. but as new player. ur so weak. know nothing. get pooped on lul.
i guess. the resolve would be to have more range in difficulty for the raids. but i dunno how hard that is to make
how
signal aurora
for many raids, u can. all the t4 raids. not including strike
molten grove
and the worst part is if ur sup is noob u literally have to play perfectly if ur undergeared otherwise touch anything and -66% of hp
signal aurora
i think
signal aurora
and the worst part is if ur sup is noob u literally have to play perfectly if ur...
yea, sup who doesn't know the game. might as well just be a random person running around while ur doing a raid lul
vast oriole
wait you can rez in raid now?
All the kazeros raids, 1 rez per gate per person
indigo marten
How to get critical 2 thing i already have lvl 5 critical chaos and lvl 5 critical order 
???
vast oriole
So echidna aegir brel mordum
molten grove
the rez idea is good i think
shadow pasture
How to get critical 2 thing i already have lvl 5 critical chaos and lvl 5 critic...
do you have 40 set?
vast oriole
How to get critical 2 thing i already have lvl 5 critical chaos and lvl 5 critic...
40 set
signal aurora
the rez idea is good i think
very good. it makes prog so much more chill
split kayak
oo that's nice
shadow pasture
makes reclear less punishing
indigo marten
Whats 40 set
signal aurora
makes everything just more chill
shadow pasture
Whats 40 set
the reason for critical 2
40 set means you need a total of 40 from elixirs
vast oriole
Whats 40 set
When you count all the points for elixirs
shadow pasture
so 5/3s or 4/4s
vast oriole
It adds up to 40
shadow pasture
or whatever combination
indigo marten
Oooo
molten grove
man reflux sorc is so good now wtf
indigo marten
I have almost that
signal aurora
it's prolly asking for too much, but i feel like they need 3 difficulty settings for each raid. noobie where u can unlimited revive to learn. normal. and hard to keep vets engaged.
molten grove
igniter is ass compared
vast oriole
Igniter is only still good on boss that phases a lot
Reflux is better in all other bosses
molten grove
igniter needs buff
signal aurora
man reflux sorc is so good now wtf
reflux is very fun. though with old nightmare set. i think it felt faster. so gameplay wise was more fun. but its still good now.
shadow pasture
it's prolly asking for too much, but i feel like they need 3 difficulty settings...
i'd rather just have solo mode be released as the same time as normal raid releases
vast oriole
Yeah but that will never happen
signal aurora
i'd rather just have solo mode be released as the same time as normal raid relea...
absolutely. but i'd even be happy with 3-4 month after. as of now it's taking like a year after the raid is released to have a solo version
spring spruce
i'd rather just have solo mode be released as the same time as normal raid relea...
release solo with lower rewards, that way there is a mode to learn some stuff before heading to normal. Later on when raid does not become top 3 gold earnings or something then bump up the rewards to normal 
signal aurora
At the least i feel like there should be brel solo asap so that there's three tier 4 raids u can solo.
vast oriole
Brel is prob coming after loa on
signal aurora
and getting that karma will help with building ur character and transitioning into group raids if that's what people want
vast oriole
They typically announce solo more raids there
shadow pasture
who knows what theyre gonna do
signal aurora
yea most likely.
signal aurora
Hopefully as soon as possible after loan
They really gotta focus on giving new and returning players ways to catch up. like not free stuff. But like ways to grind and learn.
otherwise there's gonna be a perm divide. like with strike raid. high levels can get 500k gold that means very little to them. new and returning aint' gonna get that. even though it would help them a lot.
signal aurora
i was thinking, they should remove timegate on anything below t4. so u can do like 2-3 valtans and vykas, and brels. and akkans etc.
shadow pasture
agreege
vast oriole
And higher ilvl getting 500k is not nothing to them
signal aurora
yea the rng is rough.
vast oriole
Since they are the ones going for accs that cost miliions of gold
vast oriole
Max of nm is 100k
signal aurora
since they have no gold constantly. trying to overcome all the systems and stuff
vast oriole
Giving same rewards at different ilvl is dumb
signal aurora
i mean strike is just an event. many people won't even be able to do it that are just coming back
covert bramble
so if i only have 93 enlightment is there any point is lvling enlight to lvl 6?
covert bramble
what for?
signal aurora
i think the higher levels should give something unique that's not gold imo.
covert bramble
i cnt even use the 1 point
signal aurora
like special skin or mount, or like something that gives people .75 damage boost
vast oriole
Because they might add more potions later on
signal aurora
.75 is nothing to new and returning, but huge to 1720+
shadow pasture
i mean you can park at rank 5 if you'd like
and then go back to rank 6 enlightenment for lvl 25
covert bramble
so after enlight rank 6 what next
signal aurora
i dunno, not fomo, but have opportuninty is what i think would be nice
covert bramble
leap 6?
vast oriole
Leap 6
signal aurora
like give new and returning players somehting repeatable they can grind and learn from
vast oriole
i dunno, not fomo, but have opportuninty is what i think would be nice
No people would fomo1 100%
Check how people reacts with the race rewards
And its only cosmetics
signal aurora
i mean, everyones different. people who want to progress. want to progress and that ties into the term fomo. others just want to find a group to belong to. and so on
molten grove
wish they removed the 6char gold limit and increasaed it to the same number of classes there are in the game so u can make 1 of each
signal aurora
wish they removed the 6char gold limit and increasaed it to the same number of c...
i would love this so much.
split kayak
can i just adv hone my relic +14?
the pinned msg says trf to ancient before adv honing, but i need reset for hellfire mats
vast oriole
You make more gold = you make everything more expensive
molten grove
i got like 2 many alts i wanna play but due to the gold limit cant really play them coz no gold reward
vast oriole
You can still play them for fun
molten grove
no i need gold to hone them lol
vast oriole
Just use paradise
signal aurora
paradise help with that. but it's rng as hell and not consistent
signal aurora
It's still ok, but it's getting worse in ways.
drifting finch
ive had multiple weeks in a row with no good chests, its bad.
molten grove
my valk and wildsoul are #7 and 8 now i gotta drop my gl and prolly striker 2 play them at higher ilvls sigh
signal aurora
It's more rng now, and seems to becoming more benficial to end game players for something to gamba for books and special honing
vast oriole
Its just rng
I was vetting shafted before too
But again
Its fomo "its too slow"
Idk
molten grove
i think it makes sense to have players drop a class coz they dont like it rather than coz only 6 chars can earn gold
vast oriole
People that reqlly want to.play more classes do even if they dont give gold
Idk what you dont understand in the fact that if everyone gets more gold everything will be less expensive
Kr didnt have a limit at the start
They made it because of the inflation
signal aurora
There's a huge disconnect between vets constantly thinking about "cost" and economy bsaed progression cause they have extra gold since the hit their goals. but not enough to hit their next goals. While new and returning players can't even fathom that cause not even enough gold to take care of neccesities to get in groups lul
vast oriole
Same shit ad with alt rosters rn
steep roost
looking for some guidance on where to focus next
I have not gotten into Brel yet (need to watch a few more vids and get some flame scroll crafting done -- still on dailies to complete the recipe) and I know I need to increase Karma..
but are there other things I could be working on in parallel? I have around 300k unbound gold to spend if that helps
molten grove
its not how that works, those who play more and get more gold still make more than those who play less and earn less gold even if everything cost more
covert bramble
for the broodclaw map do u actually need to wait 2 weeks.....
split kayak
can i just adv hone my relic +14?
the pinned msg says trf to ancient before adv honing, but i need reset for hellfire mats for it
covert bramble
for the quest...
molten grove
thats fine is everything is more expensive
vast oriole
Yeah so it will be same as now
vast oriole
It is
vast oriole
Honing is nothing in the game...
molten grove
honing is all that matters for an alt
vast oriole
Its not.honing that will give you a lot of power
Alt has trans elixirs
Than karma
Its not about honing
molten grove
all those are fixed gold lol
signal aurora
its not how that works, those who play more and get more gold still make more th...
But also. even if new and returning players put in more hours than vets. they're still making significantly less, while also timegated and unable to do more. Even if they are willing to grind. They can't.
vast oriole
Yeah lvl 6
molten grove
l6 is fine
vast oriole
Not for gatekeeping
molten grove
i mean i rather have my alt earn gold than have cheaper gems
vast oriole
Then play a second roster
molten grove
theres 2 much horizontal crap i would def do it if there was just raids and vertical progression
vast oriole
can i just adv hone my relic +14?
the pinned msg says trf to ancient before adv ...
Yes you can just adv honing with your relic, it doesnt matter
signal aurora
thats fine is everything is more expensive
cost of things is pretty much irrelavant to many players cause they don't even have enough gold to think about buying stuff. This is purely a vet issue imo. And they try to dictate the direction of the game based on how they have nothing left to do but interact with the auction house since the things they want are not obtainable via playing more.
marsh grove
looking for some guidance on where to focus next
I have not gotten into Brel ye...
karma yeah and finish enlightenment pots if you haven't. try to get lucky on bracelet in hell to upgrade. upgrade your weakest accessories too
vast oriole
looking for some guidance on where to focus next
I have not gotten into Brel ye...
If you want to spend your gold, prob getting 1 high line on every accs? They are a bit expensive for a new player but you wont need to buy other accessories for a while
vast oriole
cost of things is pretty much irrelavant to many players cause they don't even h...
No i also want a better new player experience
But new player experience arent thinking of playing multiple chars even outside top 6
vast oriole
New player can get higher ilvl even just with one char
lime beacon
you build roster up over time with events
vast oriole
Idk why yall think its not possible
steep roost
i have one enlightenment pot to go (blood claw) and saving pirate coins for it lol
Paradise has been very unlucky to me the last 2 resets, but will keep grinding
for accs, what would be better.. aim for a high line and one low or (might be out of my price range) is ideal, but would one high line be better than 2 mids?
signal aurora
I mean, u don't know what each new player wants. everyones different. i think that's a big problem. that people are locking in on how the games meant to be played instead of showing people freedom.
vast oriole
Its investing in alts that cost you a lot, less gold for your main
lime beacon
New player can get higher ilvl even just with one char
yea new player using current events can get to 1700 on their 1 main pretty fast like 1-2 months
marsh grove
i have one enlightenment pot to go (blood claw) and saving pirate coins for it l...
i think mid/mid is about the same as high/low
prices should be about the same too
signal aurora
all these. Dont fomo" BUT u gotta do this. and gottta do this. and if u do that ur doing it wrong.
marsh grove
at the very least upgrade those 2, 3 low roll ones
steep roost
at the very least upgrade those 2, 3 low roll ones
for sure.. seems like accs shot up in price the last couple of weeks!
marsh grove
if anything I thought they were cheaper now
cause free high Q and shards from strike raid
vast oriole
High 0 > midmid > high low
In order
lime beacon
I mean, u don't know what each new player wants. everyones different. i think th...
I mean you are free to spread out your resources and try raising multiple characters outside of events but you are just harming your mains progression
vast oriole
I mean, u don't know what each new player wants. everyones different. i think th...
We tlak with experience
If you use your ressources on more than 1 char, obv you wont be able to hone and do karma and everything fast
signal aurora
like sure if all people care about is hitting high levels fast and getting end game. Personally. if i dind't run from the beginning. i woulda never gotten hooked into the game and woulda just gotten frustrated and quit. like many have. Pressuring people into playing the game a specific way is rough i guess is what i'm trying to say. cause people are differnt. and the game can easily cater to everyone i think
steep roost
I shouldn't be doing any honning or advanced honning at this point right? except for free taps?
vast oriole
Most people actually want to play with others so its better to just push a main and wait for next express events
lime beacon
Most people actually want to play with others so its better to just push a main ...
You also wont have to wait long kazeros is coming with an express on top of a road to
signal aurora
We tlak with experience
If you use your ressources on more than 1 char, obv you ...
But like. that's the thing. ur coming from the perspective of someone with tons of experience and locked in your ways and thoughts. A new player isn't gonna neccesarily align with that. some will. some won''t.
marsh grove
I shouldn't be doing any honning or advanced honning at this point right? except...
keep ilvl and get your CP up through the stuff we mentioned, aim for 1250+
vast oriole
I shouldn't be doing any honning or advanced honning at this point right? except...
You can hone till 1689 if you dont want to lose your leaf
But i would say prio accessories
vast oriole
But like. that's the thing. ur coming from the perspective of someone with tons ...
Yeah because i know how alts are very expensive and not efficient
steep roost
ok thanks guys... will work on it.
I need to really get in on Brel.. but need that flame scroll recipe first and need a learning party haha
steady hatch
hello i wanna go back in lost ark, and i was searching for some build for deathblades. So I was wondering if the deathblade is good in solo? or it's only good in a party ?
marsh grove
ok thanks guys... will work on it.
I need to really get in on Brel.. but need t...
u can just buy scrolls off of AH
in the short term
vast oriole
hello i wanna go back in lost ark, and i was searching for some build for deathb...
Its good everywhere
steep roost
true
lime beacon
But like. that's the thing. ur coming from the perspective of someone with tons ...
Well its more like alot of us used to think playing multiple characters raising them all at the same time was the way because at the launch of the game thats what all the koreans told us to do, and as the games advanced over the years thats gotten more and more rough to the point where we just straight up dont recommend raising alts outside events
vast oriole
For build
signal aurora
I mean you are free to spread out your resources and try raising multiple charac...
yes cause that's how the game is set. And imo it's not something many people playing a video game are gonna find appealing to where each character u have can't provide for themselves by playing more.
lavish groveBOT
signal aurora
yes it's perfect for some people who love this system
steady hatch
Its good everywhere
oh perfect thansk !
vast oriole
All classes builds are on lostark.nexus
signal aurora
but it's limiting imo. and many people won't like it.
vast oriole
Its not an easy class tho, be prepared
molten grove
no power pass with kaz 🙁
lime beacon
yes cause that's how the game is set. And imo it's not something many people pl...
well yea this isnt really a grind game
vast oriole
We dont know that
steady hatch
Its not an easy class tho, be prepared
Okay and between Reaper Hunger and Deathblade Surge which one do you recommand?
vast oriole
If theres express, there will prob be a powerpass
molten grove
Okay and between Reaper Hunger and Deathblade Surge which one do you recommand?
surge
lime beacon
no power pass with kaz 🙁
we dont know that yet, they could very well give one
signal aurora
Yeah because i know how alts are very expensive and not efficient
yea, by design. it doesn't need to be like that. i guess is what i'm saying and i think alot more people would love this game if it wasn't like that.
vast oriole
They dont announce powerpass in roadmap
molten grove
i tohught they only give pp on new class release
steep roost
with your ilvl and cp you should 100% do brel this week no excuses
problem I find is every party up is looking for HW/reclear lol. Maybe I make my own learning party in the finder
lime beacon
i tohught they only give pp on new class release
They usually only give express with new class release to
but we are getting one with kazeros
vast oriole
Okay and between Reaper Hunger and Deathblade Surge which one do you recommand?
I know its not in the choices but re deathblade
lime beacon
AGS is MVP for events
molten grove
surge is apparantly getting a 20% buff on surge its gonna be op af
lime beacon
korea didnt get an express with kazeros
vast oriole
Surge isnt in the best place atm, its very frustrating to play
lime beacon
we get more and better events then korea AGS W
marsh grove
problem I find is every party up is looking for HW/reclear lol. Maybe I make my...
either make a learning party during peak time and learn the fight properly, or try to find some1 willing to teach you in call or through chat while they run it with you
vast oriole
It has the damage but its annoying to play
lime beacon
yea, by design. it doesn't need to be like that. i guess is what i'm saying ...
You think alts should be free or cheaper then main?
molten grove
picking between surge and hunger reaper, surge is more difficult i think but hunger reaper is squish af so if u have hands jus go surge if u dont have hands dont pick hunger either
steep valve
problem I find is every party up is looking for HW/reclear lol. Maybe I make my...
I think you should try your region’s learning discord I learned the raid through there
molten grove
surge is getting a giga buff as well plus its a 1 gem class, cheap af
steep roost
I think you should try your region’s learning discord I learned the raid through...
in this server?
shadow pasture
in this server?
?lfg
buoyant dockBOT
We have lfgroup and lfstatic channels in each of our region categories (requires region role).
You can filter the postings by clicking on content relevant tags or even 'Learning Group'.
#1051258008853807174/#1051276943619792948/#1051285338569580564
Also check out some LFG/Learning dedicated Discords:
Mokoko elp (EU Central): https://discord.gg/mokokoelp
Loot Heroes (NA East): https://discord.gg/lootheroes
Lost Ark Mokoko's (NA West): https://discord.gg/lost-mokokos
Mokoko Mentors & Co. (German) https://discord.gg/mokokomentors
steep valve
^
shadow pasture
if you want to learn you have to join a learning discord imo
steep valve
Loot Heroes since you’re NAE
signal aurora
Well its more like alot of us used to think playing multiple characters raising ...
Perhaps alot of "you" but i knew nothing of korea or this game when i started. A friend asked me to play with him. I loved the combat and how it felt to control my characters. There's a lot of people who play video games that would love this game, but don't care 1 bit about korea or what korea does and don't want to have to follow korea to understand the game. I think that's one of the games biggest flaws of how heavily tied to some other culture that many can't relate to. Sure there's a bunch that are all about it. But i mean. it's like what. 1 percent of the people who tried the game?
shadow pasture
trying to party find it takes a long ass time
steep valve
I’m also new having started a month ago
steep valve
I cleared brel thanks to those learning discords
molten grove
is this worth trying to upgrade?
that is a decent bracelet my dude
marsh grove
ive got honing support vs bracelet chest
lime beacon
4.5 liner (strength is a half line)
molten grove
is this worth trying to upgrade?
its enough for all content rn, decent
signal aurora
You think alts should be free or cheaper then main?
I think people should be able to grind and play a lot to progress the character they enjoy playing. I dunno why people always gotta throw in these terms like free. No. it's about no options or opportunity. If someone wants to play 100 hours a week pushing a character they love. I think they should be able to and have fun doing it while being excited about seeing the progress from them putting in the time and effort.
marsh grove
this is my alt acc
just wondering how hard it'd be to roll a better one
cause I dont know what a "max" roll looks like
steep roost
awesome..thanks everyone for your help!
molten grove
orange rolls are top tier and 5 liner is the max urs is a decent 4.5liner
lime beacon
I think people should be able to grind and play a lot to progress the character ...
They can farm adventure tome items sell them for gold and then buy stuff on the AH if they really want to play for 100+ hours a week
this game simply isnt designed for people who want to grind constantly and never will be
signal aurora
They can farm adventure tome items sell them for gold and then buy stuff on the ...
Yep. pretty much.
steep valve
I cleared brel first time last week got into a reclear group in pf this week, the mokoko leaf really helps
molten grove
I think people should be able to grind and play a lot to progress the character ...
dw bro i feel u the fomo is kicking in and i agree this game is annoying, once u done ur weekly raids etc... theres not much 2 do besides horizontal b.s
signal aurora
it's just doesn't give those options. and it is what it is. I think the game could have a much bigger audience is all if they opened up some options
molten grove
thats y ur basically incentivized to play alts
and why i hate that 6 gold earner b.s at least make the alts after the 6 bound gold earners
lime beacon
dw bro i feel u the fomo is kicking in and i agree this game is annoying, once u...
I like it tbh, i do all my raids on reset day, then i can just log in do my dailies on my six chars in about an hour, goto either field boss or chaos gate, then sign off and play other games
vast oriole
Its just not that type of mmo
signal aurora
dw bro i feel u the fomo is kicking in and i agree this game is annoying, once u...
Making more characters is pretty much how u increase playtime. But it's not like a good feeling cause everything is timegated. You don't pick ur main. Rng picks ur main. (i say this jokingly when people hit high qual weap lul)
vast oriole
If you like grinding, should play bdo
molten grove
I like it tbh, i do all my raids on reset day, then i can just log in do my dail...
thats the thing it forces u to do too much b.s outside of raids, i literally only wanna raid
signal aurora
If you like grinding, should play bdo
I tried bdo. but i didn't enjoy the gamneplay. the camera. etc.
like i love the locked screen. top down. gameplay
vast oriole
Its just not a grind game
molten grove
Making more characters is pretty much how u increase playtime. But it's not lik...
yep but its the closest ul get to playing the game more
signal aurora
and like sure there's diablo, poe, last epoch etc. but come on lul
once u play lost ark. all those other top down games combat feels sooo boring
lime beacon
Its just not a grind game
Lost ark is like a good side game imo, that you play a few days a week while you have other games you play and stuff
lime beacon
once u play lost ark. all those other top down games combat feels sooo boring
Actually true though ngl
molten grove
i rather run raids more or even guardian raids more than do side content like chaos gate, chaos dungeon, paradise
signal aurora
Lost ark is like a good side game imo, that you play a few days a week while you...
yea. like i find lost ark more enjoyable when i treat it like.. uh put it on a schedule. a side piece lul. but when i wanna play more. it feels bad.
lime beacon
i rather run raids more or even guardian raids more than do side content like ch...
I do wish they had an option to rerun raids like just for fun, maybe even like no rewards except like a tiny amount of mats or something
signal aurora
And when i don't wanna play. it feels bad cause i still should play to not miss my weekly progress lul
molten grove
I do wish they had an option to rerun raids like just for fun, maybe even like n...
or just make it so when u do extra raids u can choose to have that count as ur chaos dungeon and other stuff u dont wanna run
shadow pasture
yea. like i find lost ark more enjoyable when i treat it like.. uh put it on a...
yeah theres a lot of complaint about not really being able to play more
signal aurora
I do wish they had an option to rerun raids like just for fun, maybe even like n...
honestly, even if they still gave some rewards. is it so bad to give people stuff for doing stuff?
shadow pasture
its even worst if you only really have 1 char
signal aurora
i was thinking for older raids too, like add the new card sets to them so people can do card runs. and even if they get gold from them.. lul 600 gold from valtan?>
meaningless for end game players. but actually huge for new and returning that are struggling with every penny to catch up
molten grove
nah just make it so when u do extra raids u get a token and u can exchange this token to auto do ur chaos dungeon and other content
this way time spent is similr but u dont waste time doing b.s u dont wanna do
signal aurora
nah just make it so when u do extra raids u get a token and u can exchange this ...
hahaha. i dunno. i mean. that's ideal for some people but lul
steep roost
High 0 > midmid > high low
In order
what is High 0 ?
lime beacon
i think time spent would actually be more tbh
lime beacon
what is High 0 ?
single high line nothing else
marsh grove
what is High 0 ?
hes saying 1 high line vs mid mid vs high + low
vast oriole
I do wish they had an option to rerun raids like just for fun, maybe even like n...
Yeah and they didnt do that because bussers
molten grove
yeah but i learn nothing from mindless chaos dungeon, i could just play poe instead, rather spend the time 2 raid more
lime beacon
Yeah and they didnt do that because bussers
yea bussers ruin that, though cat aegir ive heard in CN does let you rerun it over and over
steep roost
why would one high line be better than a high low... value from AH wise?
lime beacon
which is why i really want cat aegir lmao
signal aurora
yeah theres a lot of complaint about not really being able to play more
but like both not being able to play more, and having to play when u don't want to. That's the downside of timegated weekly's in a game.
marsh grove
he was doing arrows to show which is better in order, not greater than or less than
lime beacon
its just the first run each week is what gets ranked on their clear time leaderboard
molten grove
he meant -> not >
steep roost
ohh haha.. got it.. thanks! slow morning for me
molten grove
make sure u check ur pheon count before u go buying some budget accessories
steep roost
high low are still close to 200k per accs on ah.. ouch.. slow grind indeed
molten grove
coz pheons are expensive af
vast oriole
Anyway i shouldve said something earlier, but its better to keep conversations like that outside of help channel
Its my bad
molten grove
high low are still close to 200k per accs on ah.. ouch.. slow grind indeed
no they are like 80k per ring, 120kish per earring and 130kish per ammy
theres 2 main stats, u gotta check both as the high and the low, price often differs between them
vast oriole
^
molten grove
if ur class can run crit ring dont buy crit dmg ring
signal aurora
yea bussers ruin that, though cat aegir ive heard in CN does let you rerun it ov...
It sucks that the concept of bussers ruins so much imo. Like i bet if they gave anyone of us the jobs and paid us with royal crystals. we'd literally be able to stop and ban all bussing in all servers.
But more so. the fact that people do bussing is more of a sign that there aren't enough ways for people to get what they want by playing normally.
The game can be so much more than what it is imo to where people aren't bussing for gold. but giving free bussing and learning runs to help new players cause they already have everything they want or need cause they were able to grind for it. The fact that people bus for gold, just shows that people who want to progress more are starved of options.
molten grove
theres classes that cant run the crit dmg one due to having 2 much crit dmg i.e wildsoul
vast oriole
Yeah like 3 classes
steep roost
no they are like 80k per ring, 120kish per earring and 130kish per ammy
oh you are right in NAE if I use crit rate high and crit d low its like 60k
molten grove
oh you are right in NAE if I use crit rate high and crit d low its like 60k
ez savings
steep roost
? how so
signal aurora
I mean i get it. the game is the way it is. and u either get with the program or ur outside the looking glass lookin in and not fitting in. I just wish the game wasn't like that. and more of an open friendly mmo. Where people aren't walling new players with a list of how to play the game properly.
molten grove
depends on class
jagged zinc
Because they're bad outside of 2 classes
steep roost
RE Deathblade
jagged zinc
2 of the most unpopular classes in the game, pba wildsoul or pistoleer
molten grove
basically the lower ur current crit dmg the better crit dmg is but if ur crit rate is dog, crit dmg is also bad
lime beacon
wouldnt pinnacle glaive then also be a good canididate for high c.rate ring?
cause their red skill tripods are loaded with c.dmg ones no?
and they go blunt thorn
jagged zinc
A high low crit rate is equivalent to a high nothing crit damage on deathblade
molten grove
i thought their tripods guarantee crit on their skills
jagged zinc
Pinnacle has 110% crit rate from tripods
marsh grove
wouldnt pinnacle glaive then also be a good canididate for high c.rate ring?
I thought pinnacle glaive was loaded with guaranteed crit chance, not dmg
lime beacon
i thought their tripods guarantee crit on their skills
They go blunt thorn, so the extra c.rate on rings would make it hit the BT cap easier without maxed out adrenaline
spring spruce
apparently wf aero if going with high-swift build would be good with crit rate
jagged zinc
They don't use adrenaline nor do they care about crit rate ..?
steep roost
for accs quality do I want to stay over a value?
lime beacon
They don't use adrenaline nor do they care about crit rate ..?
then how do they max out BT
jagged zinc
Reading is hard
lavish mortar
for accs quality do I want to stay over a value?
Minimum 67
molten grove
for accs quality do I want to stay over a value?
67 is required for max enlight
check the main stat they vary alot
lavish mortar
then how do they max out BT
They have 110% crit from tripods+strike
Then 10% back attack
molten grove
like u want a high dex one not a low dex one
lavish mortar
They exist and have 120%
lime beacon
Main(red) nodes take prio over side-nodes.
Without a Crit synergy or high Crit Rate on Rings+Brace run Strike 1 for higher Burst DPS.
btw the guide straight up tells them to use high c.rate on rings
for the normal bt build otherwisse tells them to go strike
molten grove
guide says tai scrapper should play blunt thorn but mattchupichu says on his utube vid not to use blunt thorn...
spring spruce
I mean not really, it doesn't say to specifically go for crit rate, just if you have high crit + bracelet can run Strike 1 but you don't have to go for that
marsh grove
if we're going to be able to boost up a new char with kazeros
which means I'm either going to replace glaive or Shadowhunter
how bad is shadowhunter 1680+?
people say shes doggy and I should replace her
lime beacon
I mean not really, it doesn't say to specifically go for crit rate, just if you ...
No it says if you dont have c.rate+c,rate on bracelet or a crit synergy you go strike 1
instead of BT 2
molten grove
SH Perfect Sup is doing OK i think
marsh grove
I don't wanna play that vanilla skill build 🙁
molten grove
but glaive is better
marsh grove
its demon or nothing
shadow pasture
its demon or nothing
transformation classes are just forever shit sadly
marsh grove
😭
shadow pasture
just comfy classes
marsh grove
even with ark grid?
molten grove
but transform classes only need 2 gems
shadow pasture
arkgrid iirc is just gonna make shadowhunter stay in form perma
marsh grove
thats one of her 3 options I think
molten grove
arkgrid iirc is just gonna make shadowhunter stay in form perma
4evaRoach
lime beacon
yea all 3 of her options arent great tho
shadow pasture
idk they arent doing shit with transformation classes
maybe with dragon knight release who knows
lime beacon
idk they arent doing shit with transformation classes
DK going to be the first good transform class
molten grove
bro if DK is a good xform class
marsh grove
DK is a transform too?
molten grove
and its a 2 gemmer
lime beacon
Technically wildsoul is a transformation class it just moves between its forms faster
shadow pasture
is wildsoul even a transformation class
lime beacon
DK is a transform too?
Unknown they said she will be like a totally new thing
lime beacon
is wildsoul even a transformation class
You can buy skins for bear and fox mode
shadow pasture
like you dont even stay in form for any longer than a second
marsh grove
its not out in KR yet right?
lime beacon
bear and fox are transform
marsh grove
so 2026+?
molten grove
Technically wildsoul is a transformation class it just moves between its forms f...
rock bear is so troll i love it
lime beacon
PBA stays in ahri
shadow pasture
ig when i imagine a transformation class
its more so their entire kit changes
when they press Z
lime beacon
its not out in KR yet right?
Usually new classes are teased at winter LOAON with a trailer then 1 week later they release the class
molten grove
i h8 xform classes tbh
lime beacon
so they will prob get it at the end of december
then we will get DK in like jan or feb
though it took us till march for wildsoul
they got wildsoul in december last year
lime beacon
when they press Z
i think DKs "transform" is going to be like how SE NE enhances ghast skills when in soul snatch then DK enhances like "dragon skills" in her dragon mode, i dont think they are going to give her seperate skill bar when you transform
just it like alters the skills she already has
candid lake
i h8 xform classes tbh
why o-o
candid lake
i h8 xform classes tbh
I didnt mean it like a mean way but like
is it the forced outfit? or playstyle?
molten grove
i think its just generally xform classes have their big dmg skills in their transformed state so the non xformed state is just throwing crappy skills to try get to xformed state asap so alot more filler/rubbish skills to press then when ur in xformed state, ur usually lacking those utility skills pre xform but ur locked its just clunky, annoying, wildsoul fixes this coz she goes in and out
swift oasis
how to do this quest or where it is
smoky sun
you cannot
shadow pasture
how to do this quest or where it is
we cant do it yet
vast oriole
I clicked without
zealous schooner
do people still do behemoth raid cuz it needs 16 people and feel like it will take years sitting in matchmaking
like what do i do cuz i need to do the raid for mission
vast oriole
They use party finder, no one use matchmaking
earnest tapir
Have you heard of the "Find party" button?
vast oriole
And i had success in behemoth in weekends
shy chasm
No one does matchmaking gor anything
vast oriole
When most people are done with their importang raids
zealous schooner
ohk thx
granite sequoia
whats best eu server? returning player, new acc
static quest
I got my +23 but it hurt my soul
static quest
atleast it wasnt hard pity, got it at 65%
lime beacon
server doesnt really matter much tho tbh, most important content in the game is cross server
the only thing your server really matters for is for like field boss
and even low pop servers will still kill field boss in like the first 10 channels
all servers in the same region can raid together
granite sequoia
server doesnt really matter much tho tbh, most important content in the game is ...
oh, it is, i forgot about that
vast oriole
and even low pop servers will still kill field boss in like the first 10 channel...
Theres no 10 channels on ortuus xD
lean scroll
testing things on my shock scrapper currently and i don't really feel a dmg difference with my HA technique after entering Z.. any shock scrappers here can confirm that it doesnt really matter to use it inside the tenacity burst window?
side note: I'm at 1540 gear score so maybe that has something to do with it
lavish mortar
It might only matter at 1670+ with leap nodes
But scrapper chat would be your best bet to ask
dim yew
Hi guys, compared to other packs, is the Fall Platinum pack for 10K RC worth it?
I'm not a huge buyer but I would like to buy packs sometimes that are worth the shot to stack for DK 
lavish mortar
Hi guys, compared to other packs, is the Fall Platinum pack for 10K RC worth it?
Currently best thing in the shop to get
dim yew
Currently best thing in the shop to get
Thank u sir
torpid elbow
i never knew you could get embers for paradise
obsidian valve
Ancient (starred) drops
torpid elbow
yeah it gave me a 100 qual so +400k power
which really helps cause my DB is doing rubbish atm
errant pike
how do people change wildsoul's bear form color?
hollow scroll
you can buy transform skins, or they've been in rc shop
errant pike
wait how do I know which skin will make my bear form white or black? or is it just the dye?
hollow scroll
skins themselves wont change your transform colour
dim pulsar
wait how do I know which skin will make my bear form white or black? or is it ju...
its $$ feature
hollow scroll
austere glade
i made an artist alt and was wondering how the loa log was supposed to be interpreted (i assume this is like uptime?)/if there are ideal numbers i should b hitting
sturdy frost
i just boosted my character to 1585, can someone recommend Soul Eater Guide/content creater AND guide for returning players what to do?
after powerpass
torpid elbow
is there anywhere i can buy ancient bracelets at T4?
sturdy frost
ok i found ealier that lostark.nexus, but couldnt verify its relability
thanks marcus
sturdy frost
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Da0MFsuencYbmcFMo6cUPBEGubavgsebeYtR7iCtaoQ/...
i feel like full moon skill setup is a little bit clunky, do You think Nights Edge can be better for me?
austere glade
i just boosted my character to 1585, can someone recommend Soul Eater Guide/cont...
https://youtu.be/Lh6vjB0syTc?si=nxvWqlUN20Bvcb5y
this channel should cover everything
torpid elbow
fm is goated
sturdy frost
fm is goated
okay im gonna give it more time, since i have month to test it
sturdy frost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X_0buxK78c is this guy good content creator? No Edit Andy have 18min Soul Eater cover
but its 2024 guide
split kayak
how hard is brel2 on ilvl?
torpid elbow
how hard is brel2 on ilvl?
are you 1670
split kayak
ya
torpid elbow
it can be tough if dps is low
but if you have like 2 high dps/ilvl you should be ok
its a lot of guard counter shit as well
aight i better find learning party
torpid elbow
i just use LOS30 still
split kayak
so i use the leg selectors for it?
torpid elbow
is this for cards?
vast oriole
no
dont use selectors
brel nm is pretty low dps requirement
you just need to know when to send your shits
just use los30
abstract mountain
is lighting 18 better than los 30 in brel?
balmy plank
Assuming your support has the proper set, yes
rose jewel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X_0buxK78c is this guy good content creator? No...
Cauttyh on YouTube has 2025 guides for a lot of stuff very in-depth if stoopz's vid is not enough to understand stuff, then deathboi has solo raid guides and a zero to hero project that will help a lot
split kayak
should i always use juice when tapping weap?
rose jewel
No
split kayak
or save it for adv honing 10-20?
rose jewel
Only books if any
split kayak
okei
rose jewel
It also depends on the amount of juice and the ilv you are
If you're T3 use all the juice on normal hones and get out of that shit desert zone
In t4 you save them for ah
rose jewel
It's kinda ass
torpid elbow
bracelets confuse me
rose jewel
Only one combat stat
torpid elbow
crit
torpid elbow
should i just buy one
split kayak
Only books if any
do i tap only with books or just send it? 1675 atm
rose jewel
Pray for hell keys
rose jewel
do i tap only with books or just send it? 1675 atm
Don't tell me you haven't done adv. Hone at all where you're at
split kayak
oh alrd adv 10 on all piece
rose jewel
Then go full +16
split kayak
tap without books is ok?
rose jewel
You would need to check books prices for 15-18 but I bet they're expensive af, so only use the ones you get from events
IF you have the express you should have obtained a LOT of them
split kayak
after all used up, just tap without?
covert bramble
when Mordom turns ommni directional
does ambush master not work anymore?
my dmg seemed to drop
vast oriole
it does work
torpid elbow
is doing roster content good for cp
rose jewel
Sometimes yes sometimes no, you still do it coz of other benefits
obsidian valve
torpid elbow
god kirima has spoken
split kayak
how do ppl raise cp? im at 1676 with 961 cp
rose jewel
You do it all
torpid elbow
how do ppl raise cp? im at 1676 with 961 cp
thats kind of ok for your level i think?
rose jewel
But the big jump will come at 1680
obsidian valve
how do ppl raise cp? im at 1676 with 961 cp
Micromanagement stuff 
split kayak
oh
rose jewel
Ancient accs, ancient bracelet
obsidian valve
Ancients mhm
rose jewel
A lot more enlight and leap
rose jewel
Karma is time gated af but you can accelerate it trading down mordumb mats
Which you do at 1680
obsidian valve
True, I'm not rushing though
Casual at 1704 🤷🏽♂️
I need to get my last 2 alts to T4 but lazy 
spring spruce
anyone knows the conditions for the Akkan achievement a bracelet and the heart of green?
obsidian valve
anyone knows the conditions for the Akkan achievement a bracelet and the heart o...
" You just need to complete Akkan Hard mode once "
- from reddit
spring spruce
abstract mountain
anyone have link to prokoko discord?
obsidian valve
Never did Akkan HM myself so had to look it up 
split kayak
what's notable daily una i should do?
balmy plank
Go to the reputation tab, check out the rewards for each one and pick
rose jewel
All
balmy plank
You do them all eventually anyway
rose jewel
Even making alts and parking them at tier 2 to advance some might help, or just take it easy and focus on the ones that give important collectibles first
Skill point pots, enlight pots
static quest
should I buy bonus chests?
rose jewel
Context needed
static quest
what context do u need?
rose jewel
What raid, what ilv
rose jewel
Jesus
I'll just save my thoughts
Have you finished karma
Have you finished ah to 40 or have enough mats to unlock all pcs
static quest
all except the first
rose jewel
By finish I mean rank 6 on all
static quest
nope
rose jewel
Main or alt
jagged zinc
did you just click the hone button without thinking
static quest
main
rose jewel
Or clicked the buy account
Either
Anyway
Finish karma asap, min R6 lv21 on all 3
For main even go to lv25s
Finish ah40 all pcs and then never buy chests again
Strike raid is only event so your call
jagged zinc
At the level of approaching 1730 your enlightenment should be 26 or 27 even
vast oriole
nu-uh, ill stay 21 for life
jagged zinc
Like your ilvl is so far off compared to where your karma is I'm afraid to look at the rest of your gear
rose jewel
Why do you think I didn't ask for ign
vast oriole
toxic
rose jewel
Yes arna is toxic
vast oriole
royal dawn
Heloo im returning player and i need some help figuring out what to do from my point to progress im 1550 and have 4/6 ancient gear atm i f some one hase some time explaing some stuff to my wud by wonderfull
royal dawn
nope
rose jewel
Use the powerpasses then
static quest
sry was in a raid
vast oriole
they will bring you to 1585 ilvl and skip the stupid akkan gearing that takes a month
static quest
I was purely asking for value honestly since this always shifts every season
static quest
are the shards, stones etc worth the gold
vast oriole
i think thats in pins
vast oriole
oh hes low ilvl ?
vast oriole
anyway its still in pins XD
rose jewel
He's 172X
drifting finch
ive been buying the bonus chests for karma 😐
rose jewel
You do buy the chests if your karma is not r6
obsidian valve
Karma scary and expensive
static quest
You have other shit to work on
aight evolution is rly not that big of a power spike, I didnt hold it back I just rank 6 25/26 leap last week
queen canopy
Can you get medals from Narhash daily? or once a week?
torpid elbow
how much is thaemine g4 mounts in auction post raid
rose jewel
Week
vast oriole
youre 1720, you should finish your evolution aswell
static quest
plus we getting free brel mats on kazeros event anyways
royal dawn
this one ?
vast oriole
how much is thaemine g4 mounts in auction post raid
depends if someone really wants it
vast oriole
this one ?
yep
mellow mauve
plus we getting free brel mats on kazeros event anyways
not that much
torpid elbow
depends if someone really wants it
well this is true
static quest
so I dont think that karma alone should be the reason im gonna buy extra rewards
static quest
not that much
enough for me to finish it
vast oriole
you need to do evolution aswell
its not a big deal but at your ilvl, you should do it
static quest
you need to do evolution aswell
yes I know im not denying that
vast oriole
this one ?
there will be another one in the product inventory
static quest
k so lets take a raid I dont need the raid mats itself like act 1, should I buy the chests as well?
vast oriole
no
vast oriole
What about Tarkal, i wonder why ppl do reclears.
multiple characters
queen canopy
Ah ok, thx
royal dawn
there will be another one in the product inventory
do i just equip the new gear or do i transfer it some how...
vast oriole
signum thats for you
vast oriole
eventhough the sheet in the pinned says its abover market value?
do you need that much shards ?
its above market value yes
static quest
do you need that much shards ?
I mean I kinda alwas do since I keep enhancing
static quest
im at 60k shards
vast oriole
then buy the chests
livid fossil
Sig is busy please leave a message he will be with you soon
sturdy frost
ughm guys im locked on 1599 with mokoko express, im missing gold, where do i get more quickly to finish last item
vast oriole
?gold
buoyant dockBOT
Gold Sources
drifting finch
the space bar mech when u fall into the water in the strike raid, how do i get out of the water? the press and release part is screwing me up
like when the bar is bouncing up and and its purple , do u just press space bar when its in the purple?
or u press and release when its in the purple
spring spruce
like when the bar is bouncing up and and its purple , do u just press space bar ...
press and release, release when it is at the top side of purple
drifting finch
so press it down even if its not in the purple?
or press while its in the purple then release at the top of the purple
or just Press it down in general and then release at top of purple
spring spruce
so press it down even if its not in the purple?
so you go from spamming space bar when the bar is blue to bring it up, then when it is purple you press it whenever and just release at the top of purple, pretty much you are filling the bar to the top and doing that on purple gives it a boost
drifting finch
i got the spam part but then got stuck on the damn purple part
so i see once purple, hold down space and time release at top of purple bar
spring spruce
yes, the yellow zone that moves up and down the top of purple needs to be in it when releasing
static lance
I just cleaered narhash epic raid and i didnt get any protection medals. im scrolled through chat to double check if it dropped and im not seeing it anywhere unless maybe it was in a chest or something but, it shows i didnt spend anything and i know i didnt buy the prot honing mats or support options
am i missing something
says i have 5??
rose jewel
signum thats for you
I'm working and going on and off what's up
vast oriole
I'm working and going on and off what's up
im too dumb to know about tue quality trick
rose jewel
They changed it
Fool proof but it only works if both are in inventory/equiped
If the old gear is in storage the spaghetti code won't let you transfer it
vast oriole
@royal dawn^
rose jewel
do i just equip the new gear or do i transfer it some how...
Is your old gear of 70 or above quality
71 actually
royal dawn
3 are 70+
rose jewel
Just do that then and transfer quality
Trash all the old gear after
Or sell it to any npc
Pass gear will be the best you can get at that tier and you just hone it
There's a gear progression guide pinned in this ch
And as for wtf do I do, gimme a sec
2h stoopz one covers almost everything and it's time stamped, for more in-depth stuff on specific systems cauttyh 2025 guides, zero to hero from deathboi if you want a vet telling you what he did to zoom to tier4
queen canopy
Should i try to do Echidna and up in a Hard mode group when i only did Echidna and Aegir in solo mode, i did Brelshaza and Mordum in NM grp
Or do them solo for the mats
rose jewel
If you're a leaf it's (almost) free entry
queen canopy
Destiny stones from Aegir that is
rose jewel
More gold, tradable
queen canopy
I'm at 1689.83 and keeping it there till december ish.
i started Lost Ark the day Valkyrie went live.
rose jewel
Mats are whatever, you can buy some weekly from solo shop and unless it's an alt you should have enough already, including full 5armors ancient
But yes you should actually try to go in groups
Unless you're a giga casual full solo only player
queen canopy
Nah it's m main, wondering if i should try and get into hard mode groups for Echidna and Aegir
queen canopy
I did Brel already this week
Mordum i have a learning party tomorrow, but i finished Mordum in NM last week
I watched Deathboi guides
Cleared Brel NM the last 2 weeks and this week.
rose jewel
Then just go group all
queen canopy
Save my last gold aquisition for Mordum tomorrow yea?
rose jewel
Aegir only mech that you can fuck up and it's not even a wipe if the rest are capable is the first one
queen canopy
Yea, i'll try to get Echidna and Aegir done in grp, hopefully HM
rose jewel
Maybe domain expansion if you get the mark but that's just a potion
queen canopy
need the experience
rose jewel
And in echidna if you get charmed you get blasted anyway
G1 just follow your group/party
ruby locust
any chance ags support going to recover my bracelet that i dismantled but shouldnt have ?
queen canopy
Ok, thx for the advice.
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ruby locust
just wanted to ask if anyone has experience with that working so that i dont waste my time going through the process
rose jewel
Yes they restore items, thus why I gave the link
lime beacon
I had the exact same situation happen to me last week
it took like a few hours of me talking to support
if you rememeber the exact time you dismantled it it makes it a lot easier, thats why it took a while for me i couldnt remember exactly when i dismantled it
obsidian valve
G1 just follow your group/party
My mantra
lime beacon
My mantra <:UwU:922621420163448913>
follows party member during a x3 mech causes wipe
livid fossil
Points to leaf everything is fine
Can’t get into f party learning Brel every thing is filled up
static quest
do we know what weakness act 4 and kazeros are gonna have?
lime beacon
do we know what weakness act 4 and kazeros are gonna have?
act 4 is weak to fire for gate 2, kazeros has no weakness
rose jewel
At any moment from today onwards because you have no reason to use yhap in this day and age
You have a free LoS and LWC combo from express
If you still want a number, 18
static quest
I know but most dps still gonna be using the card set that fits the raids weakness and lwc doesnt do anything if ppl dont run light dmg
rose jewel
But it ultimately depends on raid and all that
static quest
like in mordum for instance
rose jewel
You use the set either for extra dmg or for the resistance (mordumb)
static quest
I wont make ppl swap off earth set just bc I dont have earth supp at awa 18
rose jewel
There are also Walmart card sets you get mostly from wandering merchs
static lance
is it worht using this. seems to only give me low tier materials upon using
rose jewel
Assuming you don't have the protection ones
static quest
protection one?
rose jewel
is it worht using this. seems to only give me low tier materials upon using
Literally free of cost and gives mats, why wouldn't you use it
static lance
Literally free of cost and gives mats, why wouldn't you use it
Got it thx
static quest
so u think an awa 12 supp earth set is better than YHAP at mordum g3?
rose jewel
For the ele dmg reduction alone, yes, if you actually have hands and won't get hit as much use yhap
That's why I said it depends
lime beacon
Protection = support elemental sets
probab;ly not as aplicable for new players but for returners and stuff they can also use grand masters trial for earth supp set
rose jewel
I did mention the Walmart sets
lime beacon
its like all green cards and if you played during t3 you likely have the cards for it
rose jewel
I did not mention the names tho
lime beacon
oddly the only one thats better then protection set 24 equalivelant tho is grand masters trial
static quest
probab;ly not as aplicable for new players but for returners and stuff they can ...
wat is grand master trial?
lime beacon
the others give like 1.5% damage increase where GMT 30 is 2.5%
static quest
ah nvm
lime beacon
wat is grand master trial?
a card set that is basically all greens
static quest
a card set I guess
rose jewel
Support earth set
static quest
I dont rly need dmg reduction at all so im focusing on team buffing
rose jewel
You say that
obsidian valve
For supp?
lime beacon
HM mord you probably will want it
rose jewel
And then you get electrocuted, grabbed&tossed and die
lime beacon
And don’t get hit
imbalanced chip damage also gets reduced no?
vast oriole
And don’t get hit
theres always a dumbass that will come to you with their circle tho
xD
static quest
no I mean I sound dumb but Im not terrible
obsidian valve
theres always a dumbass that will come to you with their circle tho
Rip
shadow pasture
Nah you want the reduction
vast oriole
it snot about being terrible or not
static quest
I clear every hm raid weekly and I rly dont struggle
shadow pasture
It helps a lot even if you are a god gamer
vast oriole
mordum lightning kinda hurts
static quest
im overleveled and I know the raids
lime beacon
HM mord alot of patterns that tickle you in normal do like 60-70k without the set in HM
static quest
I dont even get hit in mordum anymore
vast oriole
and sometimes you want to tank shits to protect your teammates
rose jewel
Sure sure
static quest
I just missed a lot of basic stuff that happened the past 18 months
rose jewel
Kazeros a god? Look at this dude instead
rose wren
theres always a dumbass that will come to you with their circle tho
another vykas moment...
lime beacon
I just missed a lot of basic stuff that happened the past 18 months
You may have the cards for grand masters trial GMT+30 is better then YHAP and its actually better then the protection set until you +30 it to
static quest
You may have the cards for grand masters trial GMT+30 is better then YHAP and it...
lemme check 
lime beacon
GMT+30 is better then protection 24 and YHAP
vast oriole
yep
static quest
You may have the cards for grand masters trial GMT+30 is better then YHAP and it...
yeah I have all of them
is this budget set just a coincidence or does this exist for every element?
vast oriole
then use it
lime beacon
the only 1 i was missing when i returned was leun but luens now a merchant card
lime beacon
is this budget set just a coincidence or does this exist for every element?
It does exist for every element but every other element only does 1.5%
where GMT +30 is 2.5%
static quest
okay cool ty
lime beacon
so its even better then protection set 24
vast oriole
yep
static quest
but thats why I asked about act 4
so I should be working on the fire supp set
currently awa 12 but I have a lot of selectors
static quest
yeah still
gate keeping bc of using lwc instead of fire supp set will be real im afraid
vast oriole
i mean i wouldnt use selectors while youre only at 12 but you do you
lime beacon
also its only for gate 2 that it helps iirc its not necessary at all either
so they cant really gatekeep for that if you join lobby with LWC anyways because gate 1 would be using los 30/LWC 30
static quest
i mean i wouldnt use selectors while youre only at 12 but you do you
yeah I didnt do that back when I was chasing LOS but I think we are pretty done with card sets now
and even if they drop new sets in the future the selectors wont work on them anyways
lime beacon
and even if they drop new sets in the future the selectors wont work on them any...
well usually you hold selectors until like you need 1 more specific card for like 24, or you need a few more of a specific card for 30
otherwise for randoms you may get dupes of one you dont need, then be sitting at like 29 for a while
rose wren
24~30 is still a huge gap
sinful solstice
are accessory chest any good from hell?
balmy plank
Nooooooo
shy chasm
Ehh
sinful solstice
what about abundent ones?
lime beacon
imagine you roll a triple high that's worth 25M gold but it's character bound
you can cosplay as a whale tho
vast oriole
what about abundent ones?
abundent just means oyu get more honing mats from the chest
it doesnt increase the amount of accs you get
sinful solstice
ah i see, ok
vast oriole
or bracelet or whatever
balmy plank
More accessories = even worse
obsidian valve
Imagine x2 gold from abundant though
shadow pasture
x2 relic pouches
livid fossil
That would actually make sense lol unlike paradise gear and mats
minor lance
how do i fix this? can i choose the old one?
balmy plank
You can only use 1 at a time
You can save 3 diff elixirs then just select the one you want to be active
modest swift
So I am doing paradise with my newly unlocked valk. But these abilities change to support when I enter paradise, am I stuck with this? Because supp mode in paradise is kind of not usefull I believe?
I even checked presets and such for entering paradise and it is set to DPS, but it doesnt change
modest swift
So when using slayer I can use her ark passive that deals dmg, but with valk I cannot?
static lance
So if quality effects damage on gear, will it upgrade my strength stat?
timber mauve
paradise as valk is dogshit mainly for this reason
vast oriole
So when using slayer I can use her ark passive that deals dmg, but with valk I c...
No you cant
Ark passive do not work fro anyone in paradise
modest swift
Well, that sucks (excuse my french)
vast oriole
Slayer is a dps clasd at base
Bard paladin and artist have the same problem
Need to do a special build for paradise
Its in the nexus guide iirc
lavish groveBOT
modest swift
I will check it out, thanks for clarifying 😊
vast oriole
And yeah valk kinda sucks early on in paradise
You kinda need to crit
If you dont, its a restart
modest swift
Yeah, I just need to get past the first gates to get the good items
magic sparrow
If I got the gear from the Challenge Express, when should I start using Advanced Honing ?
balmy plank
There is a pinned comment on adv honing order
magic sparrow
So should I used Advanced Honing up to lvl 10 before I used the Base Gear Honing ?
magic sparrow
How is Advance Honing different from Base honing? I'm having trouble understanding how the system works.
vast oriole
its just another system
that gives more honing
it can be cheaper than base honing
depends at what + you are
just different progression system
magic sparrow
What about Tapping ?
balmy plank
Adv honing goes 1 single ilvl at a time. 1-10 is like doing 2 normal hones.
vast oriole
armor quality gives more hp
weapon quality gives more damage
vast oriole
you can use free taps
some stones doesnt cost gold
to use for
do not use chaos stones, it will cost gold for quality taps and you dont want to do that
just do it asap with the free ones
its processed something the name
livid fossil
Make sure you are only using free taps quality
magic sparrow
So don't waste gold on tapping
vast oriole
you should get some from the express
also, dont forget to register your char on rise of the valkyrie event
magic sparrow
I have. I think I've already gotten a few rewards from it.