lost-ark-help

[rose jewel]

make your own economy decisions, you either wait and win a bit more or "may lose" but it sells fast

yes

on any new key

[pale wasp]

ok so im just unlucky lol

[rose jewel]

20% only

guaranteed on 50 and 100

[pale wasp]

so you have to end on 50 or 100 to get it?

[rose jewel]

no, just step on the floor

[pale wasp]

oh i see

[timber elk]

oh sick

[floral citrus]

anyone know the possible max main stats for t4 accessories?

[rose wren]

chart somewhere

[clever wolf]

Feel like +4 is a little early to be getting stuff like this? lol

[limpid obsidian]

STR and Vit?
Those can be found in codex

You can Ctrl+Rightclick->See info to get there

[gaunt nexus]

hello

im at aegir raid and now im wondering if i should craft aegir gear and gear transfer at +14

or should I wait for +19 or something?

[floral citrus]

just what I needed, ty

[rose jewel]

just do it asap

weapon last, thats the only rule

[fossil linden]

need a bit of help, idk if it's possible to calculate but I will ask anyway, so I got 5/20 cursed doll and it gave me 5extra cccp on a 1674 cp character, any clue how much I will get if I complete it? as in 20/20

[gaunt nexus]

can i ask why ;-;

[rose jewel]

no

only armors give you evo points, weapon does nothing unless you wanna mass hone past 20 asap

[gaunt nexus]

ohh thanks

makes sense

[graceful vapor]

can you obtain cube tickets from any exchange?

[rose jewel]

guild shop

[hasty copper]

which one? idk what legacy random chest is

[rose jewel]

key ilv

nvm just go gold

[hasty copper]

1640

kk thanks

[rose jewel]

unless you are super desperate for shard, but it doesnt give that many

[gaunt nexus]

this good?

[dim pulsar]

If it would give 300-400k shards ot would be goated, but no its less than 50k

[unkempt geyser]

hell no

[gaunt nexus]

😭

should i even be looking for stones

[dim pulsar]

This 2/2 is fine

Not rlly

[maiden locust]

which ones better for support on elixirs, str or atk,

[dim pulsar]

Supp only use weapon/main stat

Atk is only for dps

[hasty copper]

are these all bad? D:

[pale wasp]

anyone know why my arcane rupture is locked on my sorc

[dim pulsar]

U play REFLUX?

[pale wasp]

yes

[dim pulsar]

Thats why

Reflux locks this

U want to play igniter to use this "burst" meter

[pale wasp]

so for faster skill animations i hv to use igniter

[dim pulsar]

Thats 2 diff specs how sorc play

Crit Swift reflux vs spec igniter

[torpid elbow]

i did a netherfrost key and just died to some explosion

twice

wtf

[dim pulsar]

• animation is based on ur atk speed

[torpid elbow]

it was on my alt

but still

[dim pulsar]

Well ... Stop after first death or ... Well well well

[pale wasp]

so theres a way to speed up animations w/o igniter?

[torpid elbow]

it was floor 6 then 8

[dim pulsar]

Swift heavy reflux idk of they play it even

[torpid elbow]

it was my first key ive done of it so wasnt sure

[dim pulsar]

Well even floor 6 is ok

[torpid elbow]

for nether? oh didnt know that

[shadow pasture]

Basically quit after first death

[dim pulsar]

Fire/frost base reward is like normal 50

[shadow pasture]

Gamba is bad

[torpid elbow]

ohh damn i should have stopped then lol

[dim pulsar]

Thats why u ask here before doing dumb stuff

Not after doing stuff

[torpid elbow]

well this is very true

but now i know

[shadow pasture]

Doesn’t really matter, I told a guy to quit after first death and he gamba anyways

[torpid elbow]

nah i do what you tell me remember

[shadow pasture]

Some people just gotta get burned first to learn

[dim pulsar]

Yee they have to touch fire

[torpid elbow]

it was ice yes]

i am frozen in hell

forever

[dim pulsar]

Frozen fingers

https://tenor.com/view/frozen-freezing-cold-shivering-glace-gif-4206910866563313498

[timber elk]

is it worth 500g per trans, or just waiting for tickets?

[safe parcel]

w8 for ticket lol

[shadow pasture]

Ig it depends if this char is doing group content or not

If not you can wait for tickets

[timber elk]

I quit before thaemine so most of my roster needs trans tickets and I ran out

but yeah I need to do aegir norm, so I can get koko tokens to buy tickets

[safe parcel]

no1 is going to really gatekeep u for trans all the way till brel honstly

except for losers that raid on wednesday

[torpid elbow]

ok ble you are very smart

[safe parcel]

ur more than fine to just w8 on the event cikets

[timber elk]

alright, it just seems to take a huge hit out of combat power

[torpid elbow]

i got it to this, and im also 1675 we going to 1680? or doing brel tomorrow and pumping the gold into the karma

[dim pulsar]

Uh use t4 bracelet since u did rank1 leap

[torpid elbow]

oh

ancient or relic

i think i can get relic

[dim pulsar]

Relic, ancient is from 1680

[rose jewel]

key ilv?

[torpid elbow]

okay thankyou ill have a look at one

ive been dismantling

where would i get the 3-5 bracelets?

[hasty copper]

1640

[dim pulsar]

Bracelet or chaos if ur quality is not in purple zone

[hasty copper]

ya i did bracelet

[rose jewel]

bracelet, if im not entirely wrong, is ass, as you cant upgrade them to ancient

honestly i woulda picked chaos for more copiumm qual taps

only 1680 keys are good for bracelets

i tried with one, i could be wrong and im pepega, but im quite sure you cant upgrade them

[torpid elbow]

does relic bracelet t4 only have 2-4?

so i can just buy one for 2g

[rose jewel]

dont buy bracelets

they dont only cost gold, its also pheons

[torpid elbow]

oh okay

😮

[shadow pasture]

wait you cant upgrade the hell bracelets?

[rose jewel]

i believe you cant

not relic ones

[shadow pasture]

well thats good to know

[rose jewel]

i went to the npc and not a single one was in the list for upgrading

[torpid elbow]

will get a new bracelet tomorrow from kurzan, thankyou for pointing that out

[rose jewel]

if i get another bracelet chest on my 1640 shitter i'll save a pic

[torpid elbow]

or theres a guy in the town gives bracelets is that worth

[rose jewel]

yesn't

you just want a usable one until 1680

[shadow pasture]

wait thats actually so sad

[rose jewel]

relic anything means nothing

[shadow pasture]

i think one of my alts is wearing a pretty good relic bracelet

from hell

[rose jewel]

-9

get rekt

[torpid elbow]

what does dex actually do?

[rose jewel]

dexterity is your main stat

[torpid elbow]

i guess this will do

[rose jewel]

like int for mages or specialist

or str for warriors and martial artists

it gives atk

[shadow pasture]

nah you want at least some stats

[torpid elbow]

or would you say that a 2 slot 10k dex is better

[shadow pasture]

like spec/crit/swift

[rose jewel]

that's an ass bracelet

[torpid elbow]

i used my rolls this week 🙁

[rose jewel]

why you dont use your t3 one

what ilv are you even

[shadow pasture]

you can basically tell from a glance if bracelets are complete ass or not

[torpid elbow]

i was

[shadow pasture]

if they dont have crit/swift/spec

[torpid elbow]

then i was told to upgrade cause im r1 leap

[rose jewel]

so 1670 at the very least

[torpid elbow]

yes 75

i can get to 80 this week anyway

[rose jewel]

get a decent usable one with both combat stats at the very least

or just do that

get to 80 and then get a usable one from either solo shop or hell

[torpid elbow]

im sure 1 run of act 3 will be fine with T3?

[rose jewel]

as long as it rolls both your combat stats

[shadow pasture]

ehhh

[torpid elbow]

or is T4 recommended for thae

[rose jewel]

i mean

if they accept you, sure

but act 3 has no moko leaf

you wont get a free ride

[torpid elbow]

ah so theyll bully me

[shadow pasture]

yeah no t4 bracelet is gonna be sussy

[rose jewel]

more like slap you with reality

[shadow pasture]

more like the bouncer is gonna deny you entry

[torpid elbow]

okay i will get one from hell next week probs

[torpid elbow]

but im sober sir

[shadow pasture]

yeah but your hair is greasy and you look like a bum

without t4 bracelet

[torpid elbow]

well this is true, i shall come back with my bracelet

[shadow pasture]

as long as it has like at least some main stat spec/crit/swift

its fine

since the leap points are so good

[torpid elbow]

i had one earlier with spec but got rid

silly me

this is why i should ask before doing stupid stuff

[rose wren]

whendid they care...

[vapid bluff]

Cant exceed this amount why??

[rose wren]

new system, they dont allow extremely overprice, read patchnote some weeks ago

[safe parcel]

to prevent rmt

[torpid elbow]

does a powerpassed char get good ear rings and stuff for 1680+ or do you just have to roll the good enlightenment

[vapid bluff]

what if the bracelet is worth more than that amount :S

[safe parcel]

good? no, but usable

[shadow pasture]

you mean express char?

[torpid elbow]

yes

[shadow pasture]

they get like single mid

[torpid elbow]

so i got +10s atm

[shadow pasture]

ancients

[safe parcel]

too bad

[torpid elbow]

but my enlightenment will tank?

[shadow pasture]

no no

they give you the required enlightenment points

[rose wren]

maybe it move how crystal does

[hasty copper]

As a 1670, which 3 raids should i be doing for gold

[torpid elbow]

ohhh so they just juice this char even further wow

[shadow pasture]

brel v2, aegir, echidna

[hasty copper]

ty

[shadow pasture]

its okay

[hasty copper]

no behemoth?

[shadow pasture]

hm echidna is 16k gold vs behemoth 13k

[hasty copper]

appreciate it

[torpid elbow]

do i get the ancients at 1680? cause theres nothing anywhere that says since ive finished my express

[shadow pasture]

yes you indeed get ancients at 1680

it appears in the loottable for 1680 raids

chaos

and gr

[torpid elbow]

oh my goodness, i can see why i would look sussythen

if i get good ancients then a t3 bracelet

i need crystals lol the blue ones

card stacking in my pet inventory rn

[rose wren]

use alt free expand

[lapis socket]

do the fate embers in strike raid vanish if you dont pick it up in time?

[livid fossil]

I fell and I still beat gate 2 lol funny stuff

[shadow pasture]

Should just go to mail like other embers

But like

Idk why you would just leave it there

[lapis socket]

went afk after but when i came back ntn

[torpid elbow]

still costs to expand

on alt

[lapis socket]

nope no mail restarted the game too ntn

[rose wren]

i mean inventory/storage😅

[torpid elbow]

ahh yes

some guy told me this

lol i think its cause im running paradise skills in GR

[rose wren]

thats the site to see others build

[torpid elbow]

oh okay i can just look at a db

cool

how do i i knowif its any good tho

[rose wren]

lostark.nexus is the community guide build

[torpid elbow]

yeah i use that one/maxroll

i might steal this guys build

https://uwuowo.mathi.moe/character/NAE/Hetsublade

does it look good

he uses RE tho

[rose wren]

its a mega whalers of type ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[livid fossil]

doesnt everty one

[torpid elbow]

i use surge

am i trolling

[livid fossil]

ewwwwwwww'

[torpid elbow]

i might try this guys build

cause ngl i do feel weak

i dont do DB damage#

i do attomica damage

which isnt as much as it other people

[livid fossil]

😂

[torpid elbow]

plus he uses death sentence big booty bounce

[livid fossil]

i dio my numbers

''thats what i do

[torpid elbow]

dio

his abilities are the same as my paradise abilities just different enlightment

[rose wren]

interesting take

[somber steeple]

guys how do i change the skill of this gem from the event?

[pale flame]

and my gems are on the low side

[rose wren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/903532775200665671/1415519381743599626/newgem.gif

[somber steeple]

im actually so blind, thank you

[torpid elbow]

i need the wealth rune, ill save that one as well to do if its good also thankyou friend

[pale flame]

matt has a guide for it if i wanna check a guide out https://youtu.be/T3gANVvM00M

[torpid elbow]

do you have a link to the build page?

ah its on vid

got it

very similar builds

[pale flame]

its the same xd

[nova burrow]

What does Restricted trading item level mean?

[torpid elbow]

you ahve to be that level to sell or buy that item

so if youre 1640 you can only trade to 1640 max

[molten grove]

If u don’t play blade like Matt it’s a completely diff experience imo

[torpid elbow]

is he the guy

is he a blade main?

[molten grove]

He’s the best in our region

[nova burrow]

Oh thank you

[torpid elbow]

cause id like to find some tips and tricks

cause my dmg output is low

[molten grove]

The way he plays blade = 100% dps uptime, he doesn’t dodge anything he only uses push immune skills synchro with boss patterns and expects sup shield and dr to greed every mech

Blade hands diff is too much

[torpid elbow]

i like greed

something i need to learn then is boss patterns etc to greed more cause my character falls asleep a lot during content

[fierce oak]

Should I sell this or keep idk how much I should list this for

[rose jewel]

its already rolled twice so that went lower in price

[jagged zinc]

It's worth less than if you hadn't rolled it

[rose jewel]

if you are a dps and dont have a high or a mid mid, prob keep it, unless you need the gold

but yeah its value went down

[molten grove]

U should watch a Matt vid and honestly assess whether or not u can get to that lvl, blade is a dogshit class for ppl without hands like me

[rose jewel]

you should have sold it rolled once

[fierce oak]

Gotcha ty

[rose jewel]

check your market

[shadow pasture]

i be gambing all the time

in a different world that was a high high

[unkempt geyser]

am i cooker?

[rose jewel]

high outgoing high brand

[candid lake]

not bad

what class?

[unkempt geyser]

wardancer

kinda cursed in this raid

[shadow pasture]

better than the 30-40 mils i be seeing

[torpid elbow]

i can do the hand stuff for sure, im watching that guide video and he says its advanced but thats what training is for

[shadow pasture]

i think the best thing to learn from the matt video is aggro control

cuz spinning the boss is giga grief for your other people

[torpid elbow]

im going to have my normal build as well for the meantime, thats going to help me get good with the handsy stuff

[hollow belfry]

Loa players aggro controlling? That's hearsay

[molten grove]

By hands it’s more memory, u need to memorize every move and timings for everything boss does etc it’s a very tedious process if u wanna push immune everything like Matt

[hollow belfry]

Be sure to make your cursor bigger if you're playing blade

[torpid elbow]

thats something im interested in learning thouhg

i like labbing in games

[hollow belfry]

Honestly push immuning everything comes naturally

[torpid elbow]

so i could spend hours learning stuff, i used to spend like 6 hours a day in practice in MK then play ranked lol

[molten grove]

Coz after u learn every pattern u then gotta sync ur skills to match timings

[torpid elbow]

i am attomica, i fear no combo

[torpid elbow]

i have no clue what that means

[shadow pasture]

when boss look at you

[torpid elbow]

i press left click up to the boss face and push button at the minute but we gonig to learn today

[shadow pasture]

dont run around

like a headless chicken

[torpid elbow]

yes i do that to get backside

[molten grove]

Aggro control depends on ur personality

[shadow pasture]

its really bad if you have a reaper or souleater

[molten grove]

I know my friends I play with are all goblins who purposely wants to turn boss so u can’t out dps him when boss is aggro on him

[shadow pasture]

that just spins the boss around

[torpid elbow]

im going to be learning a lot from this guy it seems

glad to see theres a popular db player who i can watch

[molten grove]

I watched a few tournaments and this guy is consistently the top player every tournament

[torpid elbow]

maybe one day i will be that guy

is he better than you

[molten grove]

So he’s the best in the region I’ve seen

Lmao obviously

[torpid elbow]

thats not true

youre teresaofthefaintsmile

[molten grove]

He can out DPS me using no engravings

[torpid elbow]

he has 6 fingers hidden tek

[molten grove]

It’s not the hands move speed etc it’s more the muscle memory and memory of all patterns and his blades skills cooldown and sync timings

Gs players all have really good instincts to know what cd their skills are on coz they have 3 pages of skills and cns only see 1 page at a time

So without going into shotgun they know if their skills r in cd or not and which ones are which aren’t

[torpid elbow]

thats big brain for me at the minuet

will be skipping that class hahahaha

[molten grove]

lol

[shadow pasture]

once you get past the swapping its actually prety simple

synergy into dps skill

and keep repeating

[molten grove]

Whenever I play gs I over rotate coz I can’t remember if my skills r up or not

[rose jewel]

i play tth coz im pepega

[molten grove]

And I’m constantly checking

[shadow pasture]

tth is basically less effort

for same/better damage over pm

[molten grove]

If u wanna play classes with high ceilings go Luna reaper blade arcana

Master those 3

Then make vid and show off

[hollow belfry]

Gs can see their skills cooldown even when not on page

There's indicators in color

Y'all talking about high ceiling classes but I'm most comfortable with high floor class like aero I'm always cruel with minimal gear

[molten grove]

I been transitioning to ez classes coz i don’t have time to memorise every boss pattern for every class

So scrapper slayer valk sorc etc

Don’t need to remember much cept is boss standing still or not

And for valk scrapper slayer I don’t need to remember anything beyond just doing mech

[covert bramble]

how does upgrading accesories

go

from 1670-1680

is it a slog

[dapper valley]

what's the best paradise gear combo

[covert bramble]

also should i use my 10 untradreabnle relic books

if yes what doi use it on

[sacred zinc]

gear thats not worth transferring stats on, is there anything better than just dropping it to remove it from my inventory?

[covert bramble]

they are selectors

[unkempt geyser]

all acient 100 quality

[rose jewel]

i want to assume its old armors and weapon because you used a powerpass, if thats the case just trash them

[paper walrus]

you just cut accessories and get lines, its not like honing, more like bracelet cutting

[sacred zinc]

its tier 3 legendary rings

stuff like that

didnt use battlepass

first time play thru

[paper walrus]

if you really dont want to deal with it you can buy precut accessories from the market

[rose jewel]

dismantle all useless stuff, set up your autodismantle

[paper walrus]

whatever is most expensive and you use, adrenaline

[sacred zinc]

thanks, dunno how i overlooked that

[rose jewel]

coz game's shit at telling you the little qol things

ignore quality, just set the bottom bars at max

[molten grove]

Adren

[covert bramble]

So all my gear is +16 and my weapon is +20 adv

If i have event is it better

To tap to 18

Or +10 adv

Atmor

For 1680

[shadow pasture]

+10 ilvl

ah*

[sleek tendon]

I am currently at +16 on all my gear should I adv hone to +20 on everything now?

[rose jewel]

by what the post says, yes

[covert bramble]

Even with event boost active?

[shadow pasture]

[covert bramble]

Its still worth to adv hone 10?

[shadow pasture]

yeah

are you gonna delay +10 ah for that long

[hasty copper]

what should i use my shadow of karma on first

[shadow pasture]

you can check in calc if you want

[hasty copper]

i have 45

[rose jewel]

unlock both enlight and leap

costs 40

[rose jewel]

then all the way to rank 6 enlight, then rank 6 leap, then rank 6 evo

follow the pic

much easier

[hasty copper]

thanks

[sleek tendon]

for going to +20 should I only be using the honing support for the ancestors grace?

[rose jewel]

you can probably use one extra scroll here and there, since you have a decent amount + you can get more from the event shop

[covert bramble]

How muxh does it cost roughly from.1-10 adv honing

[shadow pasture]

https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/upgrade-calculator

[covert bramble]

Assuming just gold costs

Idk how to use that

[shadow pasture]

well time to learn how to fish

example

[covert bramble]

U need to check off all boxes?

Till they are blue?

[unkempt geyser]

armor to +14 then adv honing to 20

btw

adv honing got 50% nerf xd

[shadow pasture]

okay how many pieces do you need to +10 ilvl

[unkempt geyser]

1680 is free now

[shadow pasture]

im assuming all your armor pieces?

[covert bramble]

All but weapon

My weapon is +20

[shadow pasture]

this is what it should look like

the boxes at the top right

you input for market prices

[dreamy bluff]

did Strike Raid have revive in KR?

[shadow pasture]

nope

[covert bramble]

Also if I am 1680

Do I lose my leaf

[shadow pasture]

no

[covert bramble]

I have not done any brel ever

Yet

[shadow pasture]

you lose it at 1690

[covert bramble]

Is it hard to get in a brel

Lobby

With a leaf

[shadow pasture]

with leaf it shouldnt be hard

they all want to milk you

[covert bramble]

So even if I drop metors on people

In g2

Its ok

[shadow pasture]

uh obv no

[unkempt geyser]

its cheaper

[shadow pasture]

they are gonna be madge

[unkempt geyser]

50% mats

20% less shards

20% less gold

[covert bramble]

So how do they milk

If I am in the party

[shadow pasture]

just carrying you

they get tokens

[covert bramble]

But if im killing them

[shadow pasture]

aka milking your mokoko body

[covert bramble]

Then how do they carry

[shadow pasture]

well then dont kill them

lmao

[covert bramble]

What do I need to survive

In brek g2

[unkempt geyser]

you cant kill anyone in brel

[covert bramble]

For a clear

[unkempt geyser]

im pretty sure

[hasty copper]

what raids do u use a card set other than LOS30?

[rose jewel]

lightning for brel, earth for mordum g3, fire for future act 4 g2

breath for all dps ele sets, protection for all sup ele sets

[hasty copper]

what card set is lightning?

[jagged zinc]

just search breath for dps

or protection for support

[dreamy bluff]

or "you have a plan" set (if support)

[shadow pasture]

🐀

[dreamy bluff]

you cant really kill them in brel

[sleek tendon]

what is [happy harvesting]

[dreamy bluff]

not in normal at least

[rose jewel]

probably an stronghold quest

[molten grove]

It’s extremely hard to get a pt coz all the runs are hw runs, learning parties r rare.

If u try enter hw run they will likely reject u and even if they didn’t and u actually know no mech and wipe them, ul just all be jailed together in g2

Most players who create a hw lobby will have very little patience for ppl dropping meteors on boss etc coz they expect u to be exp

[shadow pasture]

i mean this is a leaf char

so

people are a bit more lenient

[dreamy bluff]

and its normal mode

[molten grove]

I’m just saying in the off chance he did get into a hw run it’s not a free carry in mech it’s only a free carry in dps I.e u do all mechs perfectly but ur dps is trash

Coz there’s lots of leafs who can mech but can’t dps for shit

[dreamy bluff]

just let them know what you havent cleared it yet. and try to join a party thatt has some high level players. they are more likely to not mind carrying you

[vast oriole]

unlucky hes naw

[sleek tendon]

yeah it was, thank you

[shadow pasture]

maybe when naw and nae merge we get an ignite server

[molten grove]

It’s jover for my ping if server went nae

[sleek tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[shadow pasture]

still dont know how they're gonna do the ping

if its in nae all the aus and seas players are getting thanos snapped

[molten grove]

I’m about to get thanosed

[shadow pasture]

but atleast the south americans are somewhat happy

[molten grove]

188ms gonna be 300ms in nae

[shadow pasture]

yeah it might just be joever

that why i always kinda suggest new players that play in seas to look for another game

[molten grove]

When are they gonna implement a.i team mates

[shadow pasture]

probably after kazeros

some time

maybe more news at loaon winter

[molten grove]

I need a.i supports so I don’t have to wait 3 hrs for a sup on my prog runs

I also expect the a.i support to play perfectly :3

It’s gonna be so good for the game coz now no one has to play a gl or sup for the party, just get 2 sup and 1 gl ai to do all the stagger destruction and other party related utility stuff

And if ur back attacker u can ai a bunch of front attackers so theres only a 1 in 8 chance boss turns to u = giga b.a uptime kek

[lime beacon]

they going to make AI sup have like 50% uptime or something

theres no way they play perfectly

[molten grove]

Wtf

[lime beacon]

they going to give them like 1 AP buff

[molten grove]

…….

[shadow pasture]

still gonna be better than some supports i see in pugs

[lime beacon]

if they made AI sup play perfectly then there would never be a reason to pick an actual player sup

they will 100% be worse then like even q3 sup play

probably worse then median even

[molten grove]

At least make them median

[lime beacon]

nah

[shadow pasture]

nah it cant be median

[lime beacon]

i expect AI team mates to be like doing bare min

[molten grove]

The whole pnt is to reduce pt finder time, dont wanna waste time finding sup and utility just wanna go with whichever friends r available and enter

[lime beacon]

like and their accessories will be like single mid or some shit

yea you can enter with a floor

doing min

[molten grove]

But that means I have to carry

[lime beacon]

Yep

you are carrying the AI

lmao

[molten grove]

Which I can’t on my alts coz they are still gearing

[open heron]

Why is weapon power better on earing? with normally attack power is better

[lime beacon]

also you wouldnt need to carry you would just need to do min dps

[molten grove]

So need everyone inc ai to do median

[lime beacon]

No median is above minimu req

min is like q1 play

[molten grove]

Coz my alts will be on ilvl cheap gems none of the new systems done and low cb lvl

No enlightenment

[lime beacon]

yep going to have hit minimum dps

there is no way they give you AI carries lmao

thats just delusional

[shadow pasture]

i mean what raids are gonna have the ai option

is it just the raids that have a solo mode

[molten grove]

Every raid should have it

[lime beacon]

we dont know yet

[molten grove]

Except solo raids coz u can just solo it I guess

[open heron]

the ai option?

[shadow pasture]

lost ark robots

[open heron]

oh?

[lime beacon]

yea at last loaon they said you would be able to fill up party slots with AI party members

thing is im guessing the AI is going to be like floor

doing minimum

[shadow pasture]

its for the peepos that wanna play with their friends

[molten grove]

Ai would play mechs perfectly tho

They either do the mech or they can’t there’s no in between

[lime beacon]

they get elixirs with stagger line

[open heron]

sincethere is a lot of gate keeping, wouldn't be the floor actually pretty high lmao?

[lime beacon]

they run vital point hit

[molten grove]

So mechs where u need 8 players to all succeed ai will perfect it

[open heron]

i assume they going base them on the avg damage

[molten grove]

He means floor for clearing not artificial floor by gate keepers

[lime beacon]

yea i mean minimum individual dps

[open heron]

Did NA get anything for prolonged maint?

[lime beacon]

i think its going to be based on minimum avg dps to clear

No

[shadow pasture]

even if we did

[open heron]

damn

[shadow pasture]

its probably just plumes

[lime beacon]

i would have taken 5 shard boxes

[molten grove]

Min avg dps to clear is fine considering bots will do all mechs perfectly and all coop counters

[lime beacon]

i need like 2 more levels to finish to 1730

[open heron]

yeah this is kinda of huge tho

like are we just going get solo for all raids?

[shadow pasture]

i made like 300k from gold frog

[open heron]

maybe just normal

[shadow pasture]

never doubt the frog

[open heron]

but all raids

[molten grove]

Yep that’s the plan

[lime beacon]

he scammed me again

thats 3 weeks in a row

[drifting finch]

how r books sellable?

[lime beacon]

i need to stop buying

[molten grove]

Frog only scams me

Never makes me money

[shadow pasture]

frog books are sellable

[open heron]

is this feature coming for us before kazeros?

[lime beacon]

No

[molten grove]

Afta

[lime beacon]

definitely not

[shadow pasture]

cant wait for the relic selector next week

[lime beacon]

at loaon they just mentioned they were thinking about adding it

[shadow pasture]

15/20 adren

[molten grove]

So excited for ai

[lime beacon]

so we may get more details at loaon winter

it may not even release then

[molten grove]

Can finally play with any number of friends without pt finder jail

And never need to wait on randoms to succeed mech

[open heron]

we still haven't gotten road map for Global?

[lime beacon]

Sup ai will also probably be horrible with DR ngl

[lime beacon]

They said itd come at the end of this month/october

[molten grove]

It’s aite I can dodge patterns as designed

As long as they do all mechs perfectly

And heal me

[shadow pasture]

i actually prefer when supports dont heal

seeing an artist throw out a gumball angers me

[molten grove]

I love healing

Every time there’s a yellow ball it’s gone in 60ms

[rain charm]

if im upgrading from relic to ancient accs what's the minimum rolls i should look for in ah

[molten grove]

Coz I spam g on that but not on just guard

[shadow pasture]

you want high/lows or mid/mids

even single highs are fine

[open heron]

i think if this system was implemented well i think it could actually help out a tons

[molten grove]

Just change just guard to heal ball and I’ll succeed every jg

[open heron]

a lot of people just wanna play with their friends

[shadow pasture]

yeah

will elevate the pressure of friend groups forced to have 2 supports

[molten grove]

Yep my some of my friends r n00b at the game and no sup ever wants to go through 4 hrs of wiping to dumb shit only ai sup is willing

Actually I’m also trash but can pass with ai doing min dps to pass raid and sup doing 50% up time but perfect mech and counter execution

We also need a backseat lobby for backseat enjoyers, I play better with backseat vets

[open heron]

its probably just for normal, but i think legtimately it will be healther for everybody to have this across all modes

[shadow pasture]

if it was for hm

and all raids

idk

[open heron]

maybe set a limit for it in hm

like only 4 bots?

[molten grove]

Why tho

Why not just let solo players solo and team players party find rather than force

[open heron]

well...

[molten grove]

The party aspect is game ruining due to the amount of gate keep we all know this

Those who can get into party easily is gonna keep doing it those who struggle with it can actually play the game

[open heron]

if it was hard mode too, why not just make solo of hard mode?

[molten grove]

Just have the ai available in all modes except the first, challenges and hell modes

[open heron]

like they clearly still want to keepsome aspect of party finding

[molten grove]

But it’s making players quit due to gatekeep

[rose jewel]

brother

go tell all that to amazon so they can tell SG

[molten grove]

No noob wants to spend more time in pt finder than playing the game

[rose jewel]

nothing we can do, youre not the first providing points and complaining about the game and etc

[molten grove]

And realise they just honed for no reason coz can’t get pt anyway

[rose jewel]

i mean

if they only hone and dont wanna spend extra time with all the other power progression systems and they look like ass

what can you do

they are either new or lazy af

and we wont know

or rice eaters

go text all that in the official discord

[molten grove]

That’s y the solo mechanic is perfect let the noob power up his char coz he can’t pass it rather than grief ur raid or feel like whole game is against him

[rose jewel]

yeah yeah

[torpid elbow]

whats the best value una gold to buy

[shadow pasture]

just pick middle chest

[torpid elbow]

thankyou

[sacred zinc]

my card catalogue is full, thought using duplicate cards up through awakening would work, but after using up about 20 duplicates it still says its full. anything i can do about this

[alpine anvil]

supports use karma on enlightenment after 1 tap in leap now?

[balmy plank]

You can buy more space with blue crystals

[torpid elbow]

your duped cards stack with the card they are duped with, each different card is what adds to the catalogue count

you can have 10 of the same card and it wont add to the catalogue number

only unregistereds do

[sacred zinc]

gotcha, thanks for the info, chatgpt failed me

[torpid elbow]

ai overviews and chatgpt are dogshit about lost ark

[balmy plank]

Chatgpt is utterly useless for this game. I would never use it

[torpid elbow]

just ask in here, someone will help

[balmy plank]

Open your card catalouge. Scroll to the bottom of your collection. Click the locked line to spend 50 BC to unlock 10 slots

[shadow pasture]

didnt know people actually used chatgpt outside of translation or math for lost ark

this game is giga niche

[rose jewel]

this aint the first time

[torpid elbow]

tbf my friend uses it to help with questlines

[rose jewel]

there's been like 3, and of course all the info is wrong or severely outdated

[torpid elbow]

spoiler free questlines for games he uses chapgpt, for achievement hunting and stuff its really good

[errant pike]

Anyone knows how to redo the quest called episode armen light of destiny? It is in my completed quest list but I do not remember any detial of doing it. Is it becuase that the powerpass auto finished it?

[balmy plank]

The powerpass would have completed it

It's a small filler quest line between Voldis & South Kurzan about Armen coming back

[errant pike]

THanks for the answer and well, I wish I could redo that quest.

[balmy plank]

You could always watch a YouTube video of the quest line if you're interested in seeing what happens

[errant pike]

yea I know but I wanted my main character in it XD. That is why I just used the powerpass on alt since I want to continue experiencing the storyline.

[latent smelt]

recommendations on what to take?

my main is 1680 for reference

[rose jewel]

is the key 1680 tho

[latent smelt]

yes

[rose jewel]

whatever the case, special hone

the others are trash

[latent smelt]

gotcha, thanks!

[livid fossil]

Card pack better than chaos stone and accessories chest

[shadow pasture]

yes

[clever wolf]

Am I misremembering or did I read somewhere that Elixirs are going to be reworked?

[rose jewel]

is your time machine broken

[clever wolf]

Iunno what I'm talking about homie, trying to sort this out lol

Haven't played since Argus

[rose jewel]

people come and leave and come again all the time, no real indication of someone being completely new or returnee

[clever wolf]

Well, it's a help channel

[rose jewel]

they said nothing recently about that

they already reworked them several times

[clever wolf]

Gotcha, so may have been something from a bit ago I read, thanks

[rose jewel]

most info spread on the internet is outdated by now

probably 95% of the stuff you see is

[clever wolf]

YEah, hence my dumb questions on here trying to sort it out lol

[rose jewel]

the most up to date guides are probably the returnee guide from stoopz, the 2025 guides from cauttyh and the express zero to hero vids from deathboi

for at least what i recommend to see

there may be more but dunno

[clever wolf]

Appreciate it, I have Stoopz and cauttyh in my feed now so I'll check out more of their stuff. I watched Stoopz 2 hour noob video and it helped a good bit

[burnt lichen]

Am I missing something with Crucible? I am somehow doing 60% on Lv3 on my 1660 Reaper but did 80% when I was 1620. And my 1585 Sorc is 90%.

35K rec, 48K atm

[rose jewel]

yes you are, ilv means nothing, nor runes, nor ark passive, nor gems, nor combat stats, nor karma etc etc

[burnt lichen]

Oh!

[rose jewel]

combat lv (due to skill levels), skills and tripods are the only thing that matters from the outside sources

then it comes up to paradise gear and the effects they provide each upgrade

besides resonance from legendary+ pieces at +9 or more upgrading

[burnt lichen]

Alright, good to know

Does taking damage have any penalty there aside from the super small chance of dying?

[lime beacon]

No penalty but some of the later bosses have just guards and counters and hitting them gives you like a damage buff/stops them from running around making it hard to damage

[drifting barn]

?gold

!gold

[balmy plank]

?gold

Dyno must be in a mood

[white sand]

Hey guys, just downloaded the game after 2 ish years. I played about 170 hours then stopped. what class do you guys recommend, slayer or valkyrie or gunslinger?

[clever wolf]

I'm a Noob, but Valk and Gunslinger are dope 😛

[dusky sky]

what do you want out of a class?

[balmy plank]

Slayer is pretty good. Valk is a support but also has a solid dps build but likely wont ever be a top dps. Gunslinger idk much about but people always say its really hard for new players

[dusky sky]

damage? easy to play? fun? etc

[white sand]

i like more easy to play, chill class cause i want to learn the game

[lime beacon]

valk literally out dps both of them tho, wdym "wont be top dps"

and thats uDPS to so not sup diff

[balmy plank]

okay

[burnt lichen]

Okay, my problem with Paradise was that I was just playing to my Enlightenment passives while they were disabled 😄

Got it now easy after just spamming skills

[willow veldt]

try slayer

gunslinger is a hard class at the start, its not a chill class but try it out and see if u like it

[alpine anvil]

would you keep a line like crit resistance here? or roll again

for dps

[balmy plank]

It's typically considered a support line so I would roll it

Rng is RNG but it could be something like Crit damage or Crit rate etc

[alpine anvil]

seems like it could be good, but i guess if sup has its useless

[open heron]

question

is a high% high high flat better then high mid? or weaker? I really wonder

[balmy plank]

add up your lines and compare

[open heron]

high mid is better by 0.15%

[clever wolf]

Am i correct in assuming that my elixirs will transfer when I upgrade my gear to tier 4?

[old peak]

correct

[willow veldt]

mid mid is also pretty good for gold dmg wise

iirc

[balmy plank]

When you gear transfer to a new set of gear you maintain all "modifiers". Elixirs, trans, quality, adv honing. honing progress etc

[clever wolf]

AH quality too, cool, guess ill try and upgrade it a bit then

[open heron]

not really when high flat high high % is cheaper and offers more power most of the time

[willow veldt]

high high is expensive af

[shadow pasture]

high flat high high % is worth like an arm and a leg

[clever wolf]

What is the purpose of the 3 elixir slots on gear? 3 build setups I guess? So like DPS Valk and support would use the same armor then?

[lavish mortar]

Yeah basically

[clever wolf]

Thanks

[open heron]

i meant high flat high%

heck

a mid% and 2 high flats is better then a high low lmao

[clever wolf]

Are these worth trying to imbue for better than 5/3 or are the inherently worse than the legendary ones?

[willow veldt]

ohh yeah thats good

[shadow pasture]

i dont think you can even imbue them

they exist just for training

[clever wolf]

ah so trash thanks lol

[lavish mortar]

Its not even training
It uses old system i think lol

[shadow pasture]

the old system still exist?

[balmy plank]

Theyre for practice only and they use the old elixir system which is way worse

[shadow pasture]

with the grandma pity and stuff

[lavish mortar]

Yes

[shadow pasture]

thought that shit was removed

ig its still exist

[clever wolf]

I cant even destroy them =/

[balmy plank]

It lingers in the outdated practice elixirs

[shadow pasture]

then yeah i wouldnt bother with trying to refine those

new elixirs might be a bit more rng but its way better than old elxiirs

[umbral zealot]

Anyone know why I can’t connect to support? I’m trying to submit a ticket, but it redirects to me sign in with steam and I get an error every time?

[lavish mortar]

?support

Fuck u too dyno
We aren't official discord so can't really help much with official support

[umbral zealot]

Dam

[balmy plank]

You could probably Google the lost ark/AGS support page. Dyno just links to it and the official discord

If the site is having issue you might just have to try again shortly

[burnt lichen]

Could be related to the bot/account ban stuff

Bot owners spamming the support etc.

[umbral zealot]

[clever wolf]

What do you all do with elixirs like this that dont seem worth cutting? Just dismantle or is it always worth trying?

[shadow pasture]

I just throw em away

[brave blaze]

hey guys, is the lightning damage set still better to use on brel even if the support isn't running the lightning party damage? I have 24 for it, and 30 for los and I'm just unsure if I should swap yet

[balmy plank]

Support should be using You Have a Plan or Verdantier Plan ideally. I always just equip the correct element set regardless

[brave blaze]

No worries, just alot of supports I come across either have the lightning support set or lostwind cliff lol

[distant thunder]

where can i get astray crew members?

[misty crystal]

is there a table/sheet somewhere that shows which earth set breakpoint becomes stronger than LoS for G3 Mordum?

[shadow pasture]

its not earth set but should be similar

someone did post a chart in help channel but idk where it is

[misty crystal]

thank you!

[lime beacon]

well brel 2.0 lightning she takes 10% more, mordum g3 takes 5% more from earth

but mordum g3 especially in HM the earth card set is really helpful for just staying alive

[shadow pasture]

o really

i just assumed anyone with a weakness just takes 10%

more

when equipped with the element

[lime beacon]

Yea mordum g3 is only 5% for some reason

other bosses you are right it is 10%

mordum g3 is just special like that

[burnt lichen]

If I have 2 characters powerpassed already from the free ones, I can't power pass the others?

[shadow pasture]

they only gave out like 2

powerpasses recently

[clever wolf]

When people talk about doing Brel, are they talking about the legion raid? and if so, is it the 1540 version? Or is there another higher tier version somewhere?

[shadow pasture]

usually when people talk about brel its the 1670 one

brel act 2

[burnt lichen]

Do I have to level the others from scratch with full MSQ?

[shadow pasture]

you can knowledge transfer them

[burnt lichen]

But I would still need to get the itemlevel on the alts, right?

[lime beacon]

Correct, they give out powerpasses like every 4ish months, our next powerpass+express event will probably be in like janurary or feb

when dragon knight releases

most people dont recommend playing more alts/raising them outside of these like quarterly events

[burnt lichen]

Damn, I definitely won't have gold to level 6 alts then 😄

[lime beacon]

like building roster takes time, and just doing it during events lets you focus resources on main

[burnt lichen]

I guess then we get 2 more alts to 1600?

[lime beacon]

well normally they only give 1 powerpass, they gave two this time because there were a lot of new/returning players

kinda a first time thing

[mellow mauve]

if you stritcly use paradise, then you don't need to use unbound/roster bound gold on alts

they'll generate their own mats and character bound gold to hone up

[burnt lichen]

Interesting

[lime beacon]

Yea but to do paradise the char needs to be 1585

and raising a fresh alt from 0-1585 doesnt take gold persay

but it does take like 2-3 months lmao if you try to do it without gold

cause of the fusion mats and stuff

[mellow mauve]

fusion is the biggest gate

caue you're limited to the solo shop if you're not trying to spend on an alt

and you only get like what 100? fusions

[lime beacon]

theres also the 1302-1415 window where you cant use solo shop either

and yea it is 100

[burnt lichen]

I think I got a little bit confused then as so many people were talking about having 6 characters to circumvent paying, but that doesn't seem realistic at all. If anything, 6 characters seems strictly a swipers thing 😄

[lime beacon]

well its something people have done over a long period of time

weve gotten a decent amount of expresses/powerpasses and stuff

[mellow mauve]

6 characters on current content provides immensve value

but for a new player is a long road to get there

[burnt lichen]

Yeah I guess if you do it over 2-3 years it seems reasonable

But I aint about that 😄

[mellow mauve]

not really 2-3 years

[burnt lichen]

Think I'll go the alt Steam account route instead

[mellow mauve]

You just plan around it with events which we usually get 2-4 in a given year

[burnt lichen]

Yeah, that's why I am doing an alt Steam as well

[lime beacon]

basically raising alts to get them to where they are making gold is a long investment, like if you try to raise an alt outside of an event itll take like 6 months to get back the gold you spent on them to get them to the current content basically

[burnt lichen]

This event combo is 0 to 1660 so fast

[lime beacon]

where if you do it during an event the ROI becomes much better

[burnt lichen]

Yup

[lime beacon]

Though with paradise thats actually gotten a lot better

[mellow mauve]

yeah, and the only postive benefit to doing them outside of an event (for a new player) is that they can start generating mats or vertical progression sooner

[lime beacon]

i made a 1585 char with 2nd powerpass and shes 1610

only have used things from paradise

char bound gold/special hones

[burnt lichen]

I don't know if mats are even an issue if you main 1 char without swiping gold

[lime beacon]

its honestly really not until like 20+ hones

[burnt lichen]

Yeah that's how it looks like

I am selling all my tradable ones

[lime beacon]

the big thing tho is gem generation

more chars doing dailies = more gems being generated for your account

more chars getting cubes for more gems etc

[burnt lichen]

but need 1640 at least for gems

[lime beacon]

You can upgrade t3 gems to t4 gems

but they lose 2 levels

[burnt lichen]

I am 1660 + 1585 and that 1585 is not leaving his ditch for a very long time 😄

[lime beacon]

Run hell on that 1585/do paradise on it

then if it gets sspecial hone or char bound gold

you can tap it

[burnt lichen]

Yap, but that's just 20 minutes per week 😄

And even special hones it seems such a waste of time

[mellow mauve]

for the amount of rewards you get, that's a cake walk

[burnt lichen]

30 hones for 0.5 ilvl on 1585 feels yuck

[lime beacon]

well special honing is free basically

like i said in about 3 weeks ive raised a 1585 to 1610

using only paradise

[mellow mauve]

that's not diff than t4, were you're getting .8 ilvl per hone

[burnt lichen]

With 0 roster gold spent?

[lime beacon]

Yup 0 roster gold spent

[reef pecan]

1690 . lv8 gem with free given from event .. 1 line high % accesories.. where else i can increase my CP or where to spend to get most of CP

[burnt lichen]

Where did that money come from?

[lime beacon]

is karma done?

[reef pecan]

rank 6 lv21

[lime beacon]

paradise it gives character bound gold, though i think like half of that is with special honing

[reef pecan]

only englightment.. on going .. karma take long time

[lime beacon]

Yea karma though is prob the next thing every rank of leap will give you about 15 cp (when you invest the points into the tree), and evo each rank gives about 15 cp to

so thats like 200ish cp right there

its basically the same increase as upgrading a seven to an eight

for each rank

[reef pecan]

karma weekly tho.. whhee else tho.. better bracelet ?

[burnt lichen]

You mean hell keys or elysium?

[lime beacon]

Hell keys i dont actually even do the t3 alts elysian lmao i just hit the crucible boss at rank 1 once

[mellow mauve]

better bracelet but that's rng so can't really force it

min-maxing elixir probably nets you like 10 cp?

[burnt lichen]

But that's like 10-20K gold?

[reef pecan]

aite.. elixir i keep choking and it goes non dps stat

[lime beacon]

yea but the special hones is really where it comes in, special honing doesnt use gold at all.

its a free tap

and it gives quite a bit of special hones

[mellow mauve]

it be like that

[burnt lichen]

Interesting, I gotta check it then

But wait

I messed it up with advanced honing

[lime beacon]

yea advanced honing is diff then special

[reef pecan]

any else ? beside these

[burnt lichen]

For 1585 to 1610 you need like 2000+ special honing currency, no?

[lime beacon]

special honing is a free tap basically a free chance to raise gear

[burnt lichen]

Even more

[lime beacon]

its RNG

[mellow mauve]

Engravings, Honing and then upgrading your Accs to H:M

[lime beacon]

but yea probably that maybe a bit more even

[shadow pasture]

free taps are giga goated tho

[burnt lichen]

So how did you get that many in just 3 weeks?

I've gotten like 200 myself on all characters 😄

[shadow pasture]

paradise

[lime beacon]

she hit floor 70 and got special honing like 3 times in 1 week, which was like 1200 and each week i get like 400ish more

i havent even done my hell runs this week '

your armor uses like 16-20

[open heron]

Does anybody have calculation for the difference between MPE and cursed doll for zerker?

[burnt lichen]

Ooookay, I misunderstood before then. I thought you did rank 1 crucible once and exploded with specials 😄

[lime beacon]

nah nah like you do rank 1 crucible once so that way you are ranked on the leaderboard at like the very bottom of the top 100%

its like low effort

then each week you get your hell keys and run those

[burnt lichen]

I see I see yeah

[lime beacon]

its a pretty goated system for slow raising alts i also had a couple 1640s when paradise first came out and they are both almost 1660 as well from special honing

though thats been like eight weeks almost

[burnt lichen]

Neat

[shadow pasture]

special honing is basically an auto pick over any other option

[mellow mauve]

fr

[shadow pasture]

been too blessed by it

basically 2-3 hits a week on armor

[gleaming marsh]

hi guys, do the mokoko leaf is limited in time ?

[lime beacon]

Yes it will end in a few weeks, though they said there will very quickly be another mokoko bootcamp event

when they asked for people to give new title they said itd begin again in october

so like itll go away for a week new event shop for it comes in and itll probably go up to mordum NM atleast

[gleaming marsh]

Ok ! Thanks

[plain ermine]

1 more month to server merge...

[reef pecan]

wanted to transition high acesories to mid mid i should start at necklace first? neckacle gv more dmg ?

[turbid summit]

why when i walk the game does like super high contrast?

[shadow pasture]

I’d rather just transitions to high mids instead

Kinda a waste of peons to go from single highs to mid/mids

[turbid summit]

bruh

[reef pecan]

11.82% that row? hmm how much is cost in market

[shadow pasture]

It’s more expensive obviously

I just mean that going from single highs to mid/mids kinda makes no sense

Since the increase is so tiny for the pheons spent

Ig it’s fine if you were to give the single highs to alts

But like I’d rather just work on getting high mids in that case then

[reef pecan]

alright

[turbid summit]

does anyone know whats going on lol

[foggy venture]

there are almost no parties, where are they

[shadow pasture]

Don’t play in NAW

[foggy venture]

true

might take a break until server merge happens

[shadow pasture]

Not a bad idea

Since merge is in like a monthish

[lime beacon]

i play on NAW

got all my raids done already

kinda past our peak time tho

like 7pm-10pm pst good time for raid, or 3am-5am pst good time for raid

[reef pecan]

how to know which class get more dmg from ring is crit or crit damage

[shadow pasture]

It’s usually just crit damage

Unless the class already has high crit dmg or is giga crit starved

[reef pecan]

asura and valky also cdmg ye?

[shadow pasture]

@lime beacon

[reef pecan]

because both need crit rate to hv more dmg

[shadow pasture]

You can always ask in class channels what would be the better option

[lime beacon]

c.dmg is better on valk, you hit 100% c.rate with ark passive+adrenaline

[covert bramble]

so i just hit 1680

what do i do for 1690

my gear is +16 with some at +10 my weapon is +20

[lime beacon]

C.rate lines on ring is only really neccessary when you have high adrenaline book because then you can move points off crit/ark passive lines that give you c.rate

[covert bramble]

some are at +5

[lime beacon]

into more evo damage lines

but before adrenaline relic book you cant do that

even with high c.rate rings

[lime beacon]

For advanced honing?

[reef pecan]

how BT work why it always recommand for 119% crit rate.. but if u hv BT u might white number because cap at 80% CC righT?

[lime beacon]

because every 1 point over 80% gets turned into damage

it is not good on valk though on paper its good but because valk most of her damage is on her X if that doesnt crit

its a big dps loss

do not run BT

its a troll build

[reef pecan]

if i pick BT isnt that more cc is better? for asura wise

[covert bramble]

yes

[reef pecan]

ye valk i use SS not BT .. asura i use BT

[covert bramble]

what do i do for 1690

[reef pecan]

and Gs

[shadow pasture]

Honing order is also in pins

If you’re curious

[lime beacon]

you are supposed to advanced hone to 20 on your pieces to get to +20, however as a new player i seriously do not recommend going 1690

you have way more things you need to spend your gold on

[reef pecan]

u lost ur mokoko buff if u 1690

[lime beacon]

HM brel is more gatekept and people expect you to have much better gear as well

at that point

the 1680 express accs wont cut it

[shadow pasture]

Yeah don’t mindlessly hone

[burnt lichen]

I think that is fine to some degree because then you learn from your mistakes 😄

[reef pecan]

@lime beacon kinda curious .. if use BT and use cc ring isnt it provide more dmg as it overcap more for evo dmg?

[lime beacon]

Correct

for BT you do want c.rate on rings

[reef pecan]

but why the specific 119 cc tho? the max evo dmg can get from BT ye?

[lime beacon]

Correct thats the maximum amount of evo you get

[reef pecan]

BT big dmg but u hv 20% hit white dmg am i right

[lime beacon]

yea for classes that have a lot of damage on 1 skill i really dont like BT and hate white numbers

even if on paper its better

[reef pecan]

playing BT no way to ensure 100% yellow number ye?

[lime beacon]

correct