lost-ark-help

[turbid reef]

side quests

[patent halo]

but I don't wanna skip any quests

[rose jewel]

there are some story roster wide missions that are completed with the pass

[turbid reef]

main storyline is always available

[rose jewel]

not a lot but there are

[patent halo]

I know it's weird, but I like doing them, so..

[rose jewel]

just let him enjoy the game and play slowly

everyone dismissed, case closed

[turbid reef]

alr play it then

[rose wren]

up to u, i aint pushing u anywhere, just recom, take how u like

[turbid reef]

if you really want to play the storyline

just make 5 more character

and play 5 of them

do storyline 5 time

[patent halo]

I have been, lol

I like doing the quests, idk, they're fun

but I'm guessing I'd skip a fair bit from ilvl 1415 to 1545(?) that the powerpass takes you

[turbid reef]

first time im hearing that

[turbid reef]

1585

[floral barn]

yes

[turbid reef]

well im saying this like 5 time but

[patent halo]

Also, does the powerpass complete the whole continent that you get to, or do you like, start there?

[patent halo]

seem to be a rare breed of person, yeah

[turbid reef]

not the whole continent

[patent halo]

Damnnn

[turbid reef]

i believe its a kurzan pass

so it skips everything till nort kurzan

you can make a new alt fresh and use the pass on it

[livid fossil]

Cad just keep going bro enjoy the ride

[turbid reef]

and still play the quest on your main

or if you want you can make 5 more character

[floral barn]

just stop

[patent halo]

I plan to use it on my other character at some point

[turbid reef]

and play the story 5 more time

up to you

[tulip eagle]

hello guys, is there anything worth buying from mari secret shop nowadays? im back from a break to loa 😅

[patent halo]

I do have other characters guys, relax lmao

I just don't wanna get spoiled

[livid fossil]

Nothing is going away he doing solo so not caring about yet let him be

Group

[timber mauve]

Think there’s a Mari shop calculator in #1113635777004445768 or on Lostark.nexus website.

[patent halo]

yeah, I'd miss like 3 continents, ah

[rose jewel]

just ignore

play it slow, enjoy the journey

[livid fossil]

What did they remove from solo ivory g3 if anything

[bold geyser]

dont need orbs in the shadow phase

uhhh

no line relay

[livid fossil]

Typing still a thing

[rose jewel]

basically the whole gate

[bold geyser]

typing?

[livid fossil]

I guess typing spot before the end

[rose jewel]

there's ONE typing mech iirc, but i dont even know if its there since its a normal mech

[livid fossil]

Ah okay

[rose jewel]

its not a major one you're tripping

[bold geyser]

welp mb, dont even remember that

[rose jewel]

you're basically extremely traumatized by thae

everything is a typing mech

[spring spruce]

yeah pretty sure that is just normal pattern

[dreamy bluff]

which of these keys do you guys usually go for?

[rose jewel]

none

[bold geyser]

i just run my cubes

20% spawn on the key-ruiner, right?

[dreamy bluff]

hmm i see. well ill just do a few to aim for some upgrade mats

[dreamy bluff]

only key of destiny spawn them i believe. and yea 20percent. these are normal keys

[bold geyser]

thats the opposite of what we said, but you do you 😄

[rose wren]

several people do this, u just missed them

[dreamy bluff]

i need some orahas and not enough gold to buy them off market

[bold geyser]

"legacy random" is.....paradise gear?

[turbid reef]

im doing every single continent on myself manually

[dreamy bluff]

plus its not like i was gonna do my cubes either way. too lazy for that

[turbid reef]

not even transfered once

[bold geyser]

no i get it, good luck

[turbid reef]

so no you are wrong

but i don't enjoy them

[rose wren]

how am wrong?

[turbid reef]

and i hand leveled 2 character from 0 which one of them is my main right now

[dreamy bluff]

ill do the cubes on my alts instead. there should be more tickets on them

[turbid reef]

you mean several people do quests i just missed the people doing quests and enjoying?

[rose wren]

yeah

[turbid reef]

do cubes on all

buying ticket bad

[turbid reef]

yeah mb then i never saw someone saying that

[bold geyser]

wow, yeah, okay both legacy chests are absolute ass

super undertuned

[dreamy bluff]

buddy that would be like at least 5hours of none stop cubes. not doing that

[bold geyser]

oo just like the double lucky room event

ran like 30

[rose wren]

arna ran like 60odd before patch drop

[dreamy bluff]

unless they did some changes to cubes

[turbid reef]

unless you have 200 ticket i don't think its gonna take 5 hours but

alright your choice

[bold geyser]

yeah i ran a bunch then too fun stuff 😄

man i haven't gotten a single key ruiner

[turbid reef]

but buying hell tickets with cube tickets not worth keep it in mind

[dreamy bluff]

i wouldnt be surprised if when i add them all up it be close to 200. not counting the cubbe chest weve gotten since they started giving them out. ive never used those

[turbid reef]

they are not just cube tickets

[bold geyser]

missing out on a lot of value

[turbid reef]

you need 3 of them to make 1 ticket i believe

so 3 chest equals 1 ticket

[bold geyser]

then again, if you're gonna turn them all into hell keys and actually run those, still gonna get a ton of value

[dreamy bluff]

thats like 50-60 of them

[turbid reef]

yeah i

if none of them are new

its 60 ticket i believe unless they changed the older ones too

if they are changed its 20 ticket which still a lot

[candid lake]

2

[turbid reef]

i see

so 30 ticket

with chests

and whatever you have

up to you

[dreamy bluff]

the new ones are like this so im guessing they are all old tickets from events

well i was only doing the echange for this week. wont really need that many runs. maybe like 2-3runs

[distant thunder]

is there a way to combine protection stones to make better ones?

[dreamy bluff]

wanted to test some legendary keys too and im not good enough to qualify for them through paradise

[turbid reef]

yeah

don't remember the npc name

but yeah there is a way

[distant thunder]

ty

[turbid reef]

exchange material? maybe

[indigo marten]

Wait does advance honing adds up to ilvl?

Disnt realize it

[dreamy bluff]

this guy?

[rose jewel]

exchange hone mat npc

[dreamy bluff]

its the usual ticket merchant for paradise

[distant thunder]

ty found it

[dreamy bluff]

thought the meant paradise stones

[turbid reef]

every +6 advance hone adds 1 ilevel i believe

[indigo marten]

Oooooo thats the math

[turbid reef]

yeah

so its like 0.17 per advance hone

and it rolls up

to 1 ilevel

[rose jewel]

its a literal "You got 1 ilv per level", dont really think too much about it, all levels are always /6 because 5 armors and 1 weapon

1ilv is 1ilv/6

[lime beacon]

1 level of AH = 1 ilvl on that piece, so a 1640 gear piece with +1 = that piece is now 1641.

your over all ilvl is all your pieces added up/6

[indigo marten]

If i hone all my stuff to lvl 10 advance
And i am at 1660
Do i reach 1670?

[lime beacon]

Yes

[indigo marten]

Or 1665?

Oooo

[turbid reef]

70

[indigo marten]

Nice

[rose jewel]

its so easy but people overthink it

[turbid reef]

advance honing 6 piece at the same time +1 to all makes +1 to ilevel

so if 6 piece to +8 advance hone thats +8 to ilevel

[high stone]

Guys my breaker is at 1684, but I want to push my wildsoul to 1700, according to maxroll it cost 550k for 1700 to push breaker, wildsoul is at 1661 and don’t have the mats yet, should I push my breaker for now and replace later?

[dreamy bluff]

+1 advanced honing on everything give you +1 iLevel. +10 everything give you +10 iLevel, +20 give +20 iLevel

[turbid reef]

up to you i would push breaker first

you can hone ws slowly by doing hells

[candid lake]

wait wym replace later?

[turbid reef]

or you can hone ws

[candid lake]

like you're dropping breker?

[turbid reef]

and hone breaker with hells

[high stone]

Yeah i want to drop breaker but its only 500k for 1700 he got alot mats and stuff but idm running daily chaoses on him, maybe it will be worth getting a book or like select or maybe gold

[turbid reef]

well i didn't really understand how you gonna drop

[high stone]

Ws only has like 2k leaps 30k reds and 2k abidos which will@probably be enough for 1680 only

[candid lake]

i honestly would not hone breaker then other than with hell mats

[turbid reef]

you mean main swap?

[high stone]

Breaker has all mats except gold

[candid lake]

if u are going to completely drop breaker..

but yeah do you mean like

[high stone]

Yeah its alt not Main

[candid lake]

main swap or drop him out of top 6?

[turbid reef]

yeah which one

are you gonna delete him

or you gonna main swap

[high stone]

Drop out F Main 6

[candid lake]

because that will really change our answers

i would not hone then

[high stone]

No no just non gold char

[turbid reef]

if you gonna drop him

why hone then

just hone ws

[candid lake]

b/c think about how much gold you're going to invest for it to go to waste

🤷

[high stone]

But in the long run I will still do Daily chaoses wouldn’t it Be worth if I could get a relic selector or like gold or maybe Ancient acces

[candid lake]

relic selector im p sure is

REALLY rare

[turbid reef]

yeah relic selection on chaos

im finding one every day

its like 1 in a 500000 bro

[high stone]

I mean like in the long run

[turbid reef]

if its 1 year nonstop

maybe you find one

[high stone]

Still not worth?

[turbid reef]

which i don't think you can

no its not

[candid lake]

with 550k u could prob use the gold to buy some mats for your ws tbh

unless if it's shards

[turbid reef]

why spending 500k for a character you gonna replace in months

just do your raids on him and spend money on ws

yeah except abidos which they are a lot cheaper back then

blue stones basically free

and leapstone is cheap af

[high stone]

Okey then en thanks Guys

I have alot off shard packs I literally never used them

[turbid reef]

yeah then you can just farm abidos from hell

and buy the other mats

[rose wren]

"alot" sure...

[turbid reef]

yeah im not sure if they are a lot tho xd

[high stone]

Or maybe ill@@just wait a bit for the grid thingy

[turbid reef]

i used 300 selection and couldn't hone my arcana to 1680

[high stone]

Idk never used them hoarded them

[candid lake]

the drop rates for relic thingies is low from nm im p sure

[high stone]

I like Breaker but not the fact its kinda weak

[candid lake]

unless if u go into hm

then the rate is still low i think but not as low

[turbid reef]

breaker weak?

[spring spruce]

[high stone]

Is it bot

Not

[turbid reef]

not really

asura is doing good

[rose wren]

ur using correct build?

[high stone]

I dislike Asura like BL

Bo

Bk

Yes from nexus

[livid fossil]

Burger 🤴

[turbid reef]

well burger king breaker is

[high stone]

😀

[turbid reef]

not really good

compared to asura

[candid lake]

but BK kinda gains smoother rotation i think with ark grid if u go that core route but we're a bit away from that and you still need the shit to drop..

[turbid reef]

no idea about the grid but

rn its not really a choice when you have asura

so idk maybe try asura

[high stone]

I tried twice I just couldn’t like it

[turbid reef]

if you don't like it just replace him like you said

[turbid reef]

well unlucky then

[high stone]

Also I got hacked So I have level 6s on breaker compared to ws which has the level7s

[turbid reef]

today is different i feel like

[high stone]

I wil start pushing hopefully 1,5m is enough for decent amount

[turbid reef]

i saw someone saying he likes doing quest

and now im seeing someone saying getting hacked and getting gems stolen

so someone hacked your steam

gets in to your lost ark

and take your gems?

[rose wren]

theres been a few hack about, some have fallen to scams

[high stone]

Yeah like 2 weeks ago

[turbid reef]

very interesting

unlucky

[high stone]

Idk how I got hacked tbh alot off people say like don’t share your password and stuff but I didn’t

Maybe DPS meter idk

[turbid reef]

how did they pass through your email or phone verification

no chance its dps meter

its open source

[high stone]

The worst part is I only had e-mail steamguard

And maybe my pc is infected idk i had auto relog

I didn’t get any mail but maybe the hacker deleted it

I GoT Chinese steamguard when I logged in

[turbid reef]

[high stone]

Lost like 8-9m gold

[reef pecan]

ppl in lobby title write 80+ what mean

[last acorn]

do old keys have the new legacy random boxes?

[high stone]

Well atleast I have my account but bad part is people gatekeep me most chars are 1700+ now they have lvl6s and they say rat😂

[turbid reef]

1680+

ilevel

[turbid reef]

no

[reef pecan]

oh i tot they meant leap.. i see ty

[last acorn]

Which keys have the new boxes

[rose wren]

solo shop give higher no?

[livid fossil]

Lvl 6 t 4 in shop

[mellow mauve]

solo shop is t4 6s

[livid fossil]

Challenge mode gave the 7

3 of them

[candid lake]

was it only 3?

i thought it was 4

[livid fossil]

Umm

6 lvl 7 t4 for challenge

[distant thunder]

so im trying to get the certificate of pirate. it says i need to complete pest control to get it but it already says its completed. am i missing something?

[bold geyser]

if you already did the arkesia tour p sure it gives it to you

[distant thunder]

gotcha

man i hope didnt throw it away on accident

but yeah i did the tour

[bold geyser]

shouldn't be possible

but i couldn't say 😄

check all your chars

[distant thunder]

lol i will thanks

shew

found it. thanks for the help

[devout dune]

best way to reach lvl 70 on alt?

[last acorn]

what does the orb do

anybody know

at floor 100

[candid lake]

it's the same

hell altar

either 30% chance to downgrade, 30% chance to upgrade

40% to transform info frost/fire key

[distant thunder]

so i got my first orbs to choose from but idk which one i want

[minor igloo]

blue

[distant thunder]

ty

maxroll guide didnt have anything on it

reason i asked it here

[minor igloo]

ye it's not too important

but it just gives some heal bubble in raid which is more utility than the other 2

the damage is a non-factor

[distant thunder]

ok ty

[rose jewel]

t4 dailies gives more than t3 and stronghold dummy training

[half tinsel]

Is there somewhere to create a support ticket for an in game issue in discord? https://discord.com/channels/212635560596996097/1143024489521754182 Seems to only be for discord and/or staff issues?

[spring spruce]

?support

[buoyant dock]

Reminder for our new users, we are NOT affiliated with Amazon nor Smilegate. Please stop asking mods for in game support/help.
Contact customer support: https://help.id.amazongames.com/hc/en-us Create a ticket via the AI Chat button bottom right of the page.

Amazon Official Discord: https://discord.gg/playlostark

https://i.imgur.com/VlNTyma.png

[half tinsel]

Thanks

[trail jacinth]

Is there something in normal g1 mordum that sends you to the clone dimension? Cleared g1-3 tonight for the first time and I ended up in the clone dimension and I'm not sure what I did wrong.

[balmy plank]

No, that's not in NM

[trail jacinth]

Yeah that's what my friends said too until I showed them a shadowplay of it

[balmy plank]

You still have to exit via a portal at the end of the stagger tho

[trail jacinth]

which is why I came here, we weren't sure what happened

[balmy plank]

Do you still have the clip to share?

[trail jacinth]

I do

screenshot here of right when I got sent in

I did the just guard but I didn't know about the portal >.<

[lime beacon]

huh

[hybrid light]

Should be a descent set of accessories ig

[trail jacinth]

Clipped it down here

[balmy plank]

Oh weird. I didnt think NM had that at all

[trail jacinth]

Neither did any of us! The maxroll guide says not to stagger if someone is stuck in there but I didn't see anything about how to end up in there

[balmy plank]

In HM you get isolated if you get hit by attacks. I guess in NM the sword safe zone one still does it

[trail jacinth]

yeah the valk (maethra) is right on top of me as it goes off so I wasn't sure if its because I was in the middle or something? Not sure why they wouldn't have had the same thing happen to them though, and we were on discord together when it happened so I know they didn't.

[spring spruce]

a combination of patterns may have caused it because I've been hit by the sword safe zone and haven't been transported, maybe getting hit by a specific attack before it could cause it?

[balmy plank]

As for the safe zone you want to stand on the clones with sword pointed out. The danger ones are like lines coming out of the boss so maybe the other person was just in the little wedge between them

[rose jewel]

my guess is you have to get knocked down by any of the patterns and that triggers it

but thats just a guess

[elder anchor]

how to get the turtle boss in crucible to use his just guard? he either does it really late or not at all for me

[rose jewel]

or maybe just the swords

[balmy plank]

Pretty sure crucible just does random pattens

[potent owl]

whats the difference?

[rose jewel]

hone / adv. hone

solars / scrolls

abundant is just a special name not related to the core items the chest has

its an effect you got from the altar

[balmy plank]

Every hell chest also gives a few basic mats like red/blue stones, leaps. Abundent just gives more of those bsic rewards

No effec on the main reward of the chest

[reef pecan]

how u change glow weapon

[rose jewel]

P, bottom left

[indigo marten]

uh whats best solo stage i can play to get the chaos thingy? seems i need some for my ancient gear crafting

just done aegir

[rose jewel]

quite literally any raid

[indigo marten]

any tier 3 i assume?

[rose jewel]

any

[indigo marten]

i didnt see it after aegir solo

[rose jewel]

just go and beat any, doesnt matter if you dont/cant claim gold

abyss dungeons also count, they're raids (1540+)

[weary oyster]

why people vanish before chaos gate portal appear

[indigo marten]

guess i try valtan ig, seems less annoying than kayangel

[livid fossil]

Didn’t they give enough v
Chaos stones in event

[indigo marten]

what event

[rose jewel]

express, no they didnt, ignore

just go do valtan or vyk or any raid

[azure lantern]

new player here, how do i clear all this shit out of my invent

[rose jewel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKq56J_RCig

[azure lantern]

ty

[split kayak]

saw deathboi's video on the new char guide
but i dont understand why did he temper(?) the gear before transferring it to T4
is there an advantage or smth to it?

[minor igloo]

you basically spend your t3 shards instead of t4 shards on the temper

[spring spruce]

uses up tier 3 shards, since you supposely have a good amount of those shards better to use them before moving to tier 4 since you can't exchange them

[minor igloo]

when you transfer it over, the temper also carries forward

[lime beacon]

you then dont have to use your t4 shards to do it, and t3 shards once you transfer to t4 are worthless

[split kayak]

ohhh

okay make sense, thankss

[queen canopy]

Does anyone know if this quest is bugged or so, Azena is nowhere to be found in Sunkeep?

[patent halo]

man this boss is just not fair, I get so close every time

I'm fed up

[minor igloo]

do you have azena's rapport quest active?

[minor igloo]

just keep banging your head hard enough

[spring spruce]

try completing or abandoning the pink quest, Opening Glass lotuses

[queen canopy]

Ok, ty

i'll go do it first

[patent halo]

when he goes into berzerk mode it just feels impossible

I ragequit cuz I'm tilted lmao

[minor igloo]

you may just be playing too safely pre-berserk

[wet sinew]

so with cards and engravings in hell fire/ice, is it worth it again to boost up all alts to paradise level, even after the initial 6 alts?

[minor igloo]

if you can stomach doing so many

[queen canopy]

Thank you, that did it.

[wet sinew]

dang, they took away the grind from chaos/guardian, but added another layer of fomo grind as compensation

lopang

[minor igloo]

i mean, not everyone's gonna have >6 characters other than the potential no-lifers anyway or those who just cant let go of their 7+ char

[wet sinew]

yea i think the true best advice in playing lost ark is how to avoid the fomo and get the max out of investing min, someone needs make a guide for that

[minor igloo]

the advice to avoid fomo is to understand that you're not missing out

[spring spruce]

thats just a persons issue

[minor igloo]

[spring spruce]

[karmic harness]

What happens if i transmute 3 gems lvl 8 and one of them is briliant with 12 days remaning?

[minor igloo]

like anyone with a good head on their shoulders can figure out what to do/not to do when it comes to handling fomo/minmaxing. it's a matter of whether or not they care enough to employ those methods

[minor igloo]

can you fuse them?

and i think it just becomes a L9 brilliant with the 12 days remaining

[karmic harness]

K ty

[minor igloo]

Luminous Gem Fusing
Luminous Gems can be freely fused with Tier 4
Lv. 8
Damage or
Lv. 8
Cooldown counterparts of the same level.
Fusing three gems of the same level will yield one higher-level Ignition or Explosion gem.
When using a Luminous Gem in fusing while the revert restriction is still ongoing, it will refresh it to its full duration of 15 Days.

welp, my bad

[karmic harness]

Wow

Yaks

I got it thank you

[elfin granite]

do people usually run incoming dmg elixir on chest?

[fallen jasper]

If you're having trouble in raids, stick with damage reduction. Some people don't have it because they prefer higher damage

still, better a live dps than a dead one

with this effect you can also hit a lot and be on mvp

[minor igloo]

it's very minor damage loss not going double damage lines on chest

like it wont make you jump from 100m to 105m

[smoky sun]

if you aren't doing raids with closed eyes yes

worth having 2 if you get comfortable with patterns and dodging

[elfin granite]

i managed to hit this

[minor igloo]

just slap it on and call it a day

[smoky sun]

nice

now do 5/5 on other 4 pieces

[minor igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

[elfin granite]

90% for great success they gave me a normal success

[smoky sun]

99% gamblers stop before payout

[elfin granite]

=.=

[smoky sun]

nah bro

its 50/50

either you get it or not

[elfin granite]

it was a diff between a 5/5 or a 5/4

sadge

[marsh grove]

what is the easiest Tear of the Abyss to get?

I just need 1

[minor igloo]

the purple thing?

[marsh grove]

the thing u use to buy crew members

on that 1 issland

[smoky sun]

buying on the sea

[minor igloo]

i think one of the ships outside kurzan/rimeria should sell them

[marsh grove]

@smoky sun do you have any details on that? or know where I can find them

[minor igloo]

cant rmmb if it was spearfish or plumbcrab with it

[smoky sun]

M -> yellow button -> sail to sea merchants, either the regular one or one of the 2 that swap every 15min has it

[marsh grove]

alright ty both of you

ill go check kurzan rimeria

and if its not there ill check back later

8k high sea coins, rip

thats gonna take awhile

[smoky sun]

exchange high seas coin

[marsh grove]

it costs high sea

unless there's a way to exchange into them?

[smoky sun]

oh wait

nvm

cannot read

you can get 300 high seas daily from stronghold tho

[golden moss]

Does anyone have any good tips for earning a lot of gold im currently item lvl 944. I hear something about mining and log but i have no idea what that is and how to start, im a new player

[minor igloo]

?gold

[buoyant dock]

Gold Sources

Tradable Gold

Tradable Gold is gold that can be used to purchase items from the Market/Auction House as well as be traded to other players.

• Legion Commander Raids
• Kazeros Raids
• Abyssal Dungeons
• Adventure Island Gold Reward
• Fate Embers (gold is withheld)
• Life Skills
• Selling tradeable items on Marketplace/Auction House.
• Content Bids
• Completing Super Mokoko Express Events (gold is withheld)
• Royal Crystal Exchange (gold is withheld)

Bound Gold

Bound Gold is used exclusively for progression systems.

• Gold Reward Chests from Una's Tokens
• Solo Mode Raids

Character Bound Gold

Same as Bound Gold, but per character

• Seasonal Rewards from Paradise Hell

Withheld gold is restricted from Auction/Market/Trading for 3 days

[molten grove]

holy shit that rare ship spawn never shows up

[minor igloo]

you're probably going to be relying on adventure island gold as your starting capital

[golden moss]

Do ppl do abysal dungeons?

[minor igloo]

nope, most players are at tier4 rn

[molten grove]

i can go into diff channels for another chance at rare ship spawn right?

[golden moss]

Im waiting in queue for a long time now

[minor igloo]

you're still stuck in the very early game

[golden moss]

So what do i do :/

[minor igloo]

you start making some gold when you're 1415 in t3

[molten grove]

u solo mode it

[minor igloo]

you cant solo mode t2 abyssal dungeons

[golden moss]

It doesnt let me solo

[minor igloo]

they have to get to 1415 at minimum before they can do solo raids

[molten grove]

how r u still on t2

[smoky sun]

which

[golden moss]

Okay so basicaly i need to focus on hoaning to 1415 and then focus on gold?

[molten grove]

enlioghtenment potion map piece

[minor igloo]

yes, gold is not your priority at that level yet

[molten grove]

u use ur 2 power passes on 2 chars then dont make a 3rd

[smoky sun]

the kurzan one ir the vern one

[minor igloo]

but if you have spare time, look at whether there's any gold adventure islands up

[golden moss]

Okayy

Thank youu

🙏🏻

[molten grove]

fastest way 2 make gold is to hell key dive and open gold chest but ur ilvl is 2 low

i use power pass x2 on 2 chars then honed 1 to 1640 and used all my hell keys and got some gold chests which solved gold prob

[minor igloo]

dont they need trusted first to get the power passes

[molten grove]

oh

gg

[minor igloo]

they sound giga fresh

so it's understandable that they're stuck in t2

[molten grove]

i had no idea u needed trust score to even get power pass so what do noobs do then lol

[minor igloo]

they play the game until they get trusted

[smoky sun]

you don't need now(?)

[elfin granite]

whats the difference between 30 days crystalline and the 1 month subscription?

[molten grove]

1 u have to swipe the other u can buy with gold i think

subscription u get the extra ticket and silver

[elfin granite]

oh theres the one you have to swipe but is the same as the crystal one too

[molten grove]

dont get that one

[molten grove]

im f2p so i always buy blue crystal one for obvious reasons but if u swipe the 1month one gives extras

[smoky sun]

i remember when aura used to be 420 crystals

[golden moss]

Also are unas task daiy worth the time? What can u do with reputation points?

[molten grove]

do the ones u need 2 get enlightenment potions

[minor igloo]

you get one-time rewards for maxing out the reputation of that daily

[golden moss]

These are the only rewards

[minor igloo]

"Reputation Status" tab

[marsh grove]

is there any news on upcoming events?

and also im just now realizing that going through the dialogue with rapport npcs gives bonuses and rapport wtf

[minor briar]

w8 for tmrs patch notes

[elfin granite]

you need to collect 10 of the bloodclaw's fragments for the enlight potion?

[minor briar]

not planning on using the free powerpass?

[minor briar]

yes

[honest ledge]

is there a post of the math anywhere on what to do with ur hell keys now?

[minor igloo]

tldr
if you're honing, dont convert keys (mostly)
if you're gonna convert anyway, save 1 key each week to convert.
< 10 in netherworld is about floor 40/L4 rewards in regular hell

[honest ledge]

that doesnt tell me the math on if burning the keys is worth it tho

[minor igloo]

are you going to gamble the netherworld keys all the time?

or are you going to come out after 1 death jump

[spring spruce]

If you start out with $1, you are only 30 hands of blackjack away from being a billionaire

[coral meteor]

guys i just read the crystaline aura and cant see a really good reason to get it permanently

do you have any reason to buy it ?

[minor igloo]

lol no, it's mostly for convenience

and if nothing it offers looks useful to you, then you dont have to buy it

[coral meteor]

i mean maybe i dont see a good benefit because i am new

so do you have a good reason to have it?

[minor igloo]

mainly to access your mail/storage/repair without going to the npcs. but if you dont care for it, it isn't worth anything

[coral meteor]

okay yea it actually doesnt sound like i need it the other monthly thing gives me way more value i guess

[smoky sun]

also free triports and borad ocean liner discount, useful if you travel a lot

[honest ledge]

i mean im genuinely asking the math on if gambling the keys in the first place is even worth it

[minor igloo]

like i said, if you need the mats to hone, generally not because you can get zero rewards from netherworld, but in the event that you do jump into netherworld, a < 10 floor jump is about the same value as a 40 floor jump in regular hell

you can pull up reddit for the full table

but that's the tldr

so under what circumstance would you say it's worth it to gamble

cause netherworld is just go big or go home for some people

[honest ledge]

u have a link to the table

[minor igloo]

just look it up on reddit

i dont have the link on hand rn

someone consolidated it

[minor briar]

.27% to hit lvl 80 for gems

is all ik

and just the base %'s of stuff

key simulations r on reddit too if u want that

[minor briar]

repair in raid and storage from anywhere

only 40-50k gold a month when u make 2mil a month

3% of ur monthly income as a vet

[minor igloo]

new player problems

[smoky sun]

i forgot i gotta buy aura next reset

[minor igloo]

i'd just use the compensation aura tokens in case i need to repair in raid as a new player

[smoky sun]

🥲

[smoky sun]

waste 7d of aura just to repair?

just leave the raid and make everyone wait

[minor igloo]

assuming they're amicable enough, and nah we get like 1/3/7d versions of aura

[smoky sun]

ye

other case they kick you from the party lol

[dull leaf]

just go out and repair every 10 mins when progging thae g4

[smoky sun]

you didn't clear first try?

[minor igloo]

clearing first try on prog is wild

there will always be one monkey who messes up 335

[dapper beacon]

How do i get mayhem?

Guess nobody here

[spring spruce]

it's in enlightenments on your ark passive, you need to have enough points. What ilevel is your berserk?

[dapper beacon]

Im 50

If u talking about my main level

[spring spruce]

so you just started the game?

[dapper beacon]

I came back to it

But my mayhem is nowhere to be seen

[spring spruce]

bruh where is the video link where you need it hold on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad7xL5eSpOo

[outer mason]

you need to be at the start of Tier 3 (item level 1100+) to unlock the Enlightenment tree for Mayhem

[dapper beacon]

How do i even enter that menu?

[smoky sun]

.

[dapper beacon]

Ty

I still need mayhem it says not acquired

[smoky sun]

ss?

[spring spruce]

need to be item level 1100+, your accessories now give enlightenment points, they can be refined up to 3 times, should be in video

[dapper beacon]

Iam item level 1100

[spring spruce]

and your accessories? how many enlightenment points are they giving you?

[dapper beacon]

I got point but i cant do nothing

Holdup

Where do i refine my stuff

[spring spruce]

there is a refinement npc in major cities

[dapper beacon]

Im in rothun

Or how it called

[spring spruce]

maybe towards left side where the honing is

can always search

[smoky sun]

the guy with ring icon

[dapper beacon]

Found him

[queen canopy]

Guys, i've been given the skill Narr's Blade but i don't have the Awakening button next to my UI?

[spring spruce]

uhm your awakening is V

[queen canopy]

oh

[spring spruce]

you got 2nd awakening which can replace the current one if you want

[queen canopy]

Oh, i see

[spring spruce]

on your skill menu(K) at the bottom of the list, then just drag and drop like any other skill

[queen canopy]

I don't have that on my Valkyrie i think, hence why i was confused

[weary oyster]

so my fresh NEW char do crucible at tuesday, why my char not getting key next day?

[minor igloo]

as in tuesday this week? ... before the week reset?

[marsh grove]

What do I do with these

I dont recall seeing any exchanges at wandering vendors

[minor igloo]

you can trade them in for Vitameow in your stronghold if you dont need to use them for rapport anymore

[marsh grove]

they're not normal rapport items

[minor igloo]

oh, some of them are traded at ships/merchants for the "actual" rapport item

probably have to google which specific vendor

[marsh grove]

I checked like 6 different places wandering ships and didnt see any

ill check again at :45 I sguess

ty

also wish I had known that I can buy like 100+ rapport items a week from a vendor for silver

ive been getting every wandering merchant for like a month

zzzz

[weary oyster]

yes last week before reset

and not getting key this week

idk if tomorrow wednesday i got the key, i will check

[minor igloo]

hmm, you did before reset day ye. that's weird.

but i know some people also did not get their keys this week

[weary oyster]

hmm i'll check just next reset

[static sable]

which hell keys should i be doing?

im at like 1665 ilvl

[minor igloo]

all of them if you need mats

at most, you save 1 hell key of destiny

[static sable]

wasnt there like a new hell mode

where if u lose a 50/50 you die

[minor igloo]

correct, that's what you save that extra key for in case you get the altar to transmute it

other than that, you do all of them

[static sable]

thanks

[molten grove]

where are the dungeons for the kurzan adventure tome?

[fallow trail]

Alt + Q

Then it's Kazeros raids - Overture, act 1, and act 2

[molten grove]

ohh

[magic sparrow]

Which one ? 👀

[dim pulsar]

overall rap items from wandering bozos

[bright thorn]

am i supposed to beat this boss?

game says hide behind pillar

i hide behind pillar

i get onetapped

okay

[marsh grove]

@magic sparrow in every major city there is a "rapport" vendor

all together its 200 purple/legendary rapport items per week

for ~3 million silver

[magic sparrow]

Oh

[marsh grove]

really wish some1 woulda told me 1-1.5 months ago

all that missed rapport

[surreal void]

HI. is it possible to do Solo Aegir on a Slayer twink with 690 power and 1660 itemlvl , lvl 66 ? (relic acc) or no chance ?

[magic sparrow]

Yeah xD

[marsh grove]

@surreal void very possible

[magic sparrow]

Same, i'll start buying too now, thank you~

[elfin granite]

okay friends... so i recently came back and got my wildsoul to 1665 with the mokoko express and valk event.. and might want to swap out of this character whats the play

[magic sparrow]

[marsh grove]

whatchu mean swap it out

lol

[elfin granite]

swap mains

essentially

[vast oriole]

Wait for next events

[elfin granite]

so i just keep pushing it to 1680?

then chill and hoard?

[marsh grove]

if u push to 1680 u can get good gold each week

and funnel into your 2nd powerpass char

if u wanna make that ur main

[elfin granite]

yea my 2nd char is like 1600

[vast oriole]

Honing ro 1620 without express feels dogshit af

So yeah...

[elfin granite]

hmm i see

[marsh grove]

honing to 1620 has been pretty painfree imo since books are like 50-60g each

but it depends on what mats uve got on the char

and what boxes u have

I suppose

[elfin granite]

boxes meaning?

[marsh grove]

like from events and shops and stuff

boxes for "free" fusion /leap /shards

or hell luck

just saying if u dont have good mats stocked up then 1600->1620 is gonna hurt a bit

[elfin granite]

oh yea i basically have nothing lmao

[marsh grove]

yeah then it'll be slow but

if u get a lucky fusion box from hell then

shops usually have lots of stones and shards so

can turn it around for you really quick

[elfin granite]

oh yea im just running paradise on it

and buying out the books from solo shop on it

[vast oriole]

Its still more than 100k average xD

[elfin granite]

i mean im not really in a rush

i can maybe just wait for the next event

[vast oriole]

Just hone that char with paradise mats

[marsh grove]

@vast oriole yeah but if they're really not enjoying their highest ilvl char then why not

can easily make 100k in a week if uve got a 1680 char

with raids + life skill + chaos gate etc

I'd imagine the next good event is like

a long ways off but

I guess I could be wrong

[elfin granite]

weird thing is that its not like im not enjoying it? but i feel like its something i might not take that farrrr

[marsh grove]

this event was pretty juiced

[elfin granite]

i see

[marsh grove]

that's the only reason I offer the alternative

[vast oriole]

We dont know

Road to kazeros in kr is pretty dogshit

[marsh grove]

I myself am a returning player around 2 months ago so I dont know how common events are

[vast oriole]

We usually get better events than them

[marsh grove]

but I doubt they'll give another easy T4 char anytime soon

[vast oriole]

But iirc its not for low ilvl chars

Usually its like 2-3 per year

[magic sparrow]

2-3 per year like the valk one ?

[tall wren]

Do you still get the box from Strike raid if you dont do it as a gold raid?

[minor briar]

u need to bait the red cone away then hide

preferably u watch a quick guide for that or just yolo it more

[minor briar]

ez

dps check is non existent for solo aegir and npc recasts r bugged and do 60 bars or smth on g2

[magic sparrow]

Lmao

[vast oriole]

Yeah

We got 2 already

[magic sparrow]

[vast oriole]

So might not get another one

Or we might who knows

[molten grove]

I have Colvin the wandering merch infront of me, why is he not selling the suspicious map?

[vast oriole]

Because its rng

[molten grove]

zomg

[marsh grove]

in a month and a half I have yet to see him sell it

🙁

[minor briar]

i have a feeling u wont be able to enter at all if u dont take gold on it but would need to see more vids on that

[coral meteor]

guys if i would like to cash 50$ now just for fun what would you recommend me to get like whats very valueable right now ?

[vast oriole]

@lime beacon hes the pro swiper

But hes prob sleeping rn

[minor briar]

t3 or t4 summer growth packages depending on wat u need

[coral meteor]

haha yea he told me yesterday that he is a very loyal swiper 😄

[coral meteor]

the valk packs u mean?

[vast oriole]

I only buy the ark passes personally

[lime beacon]

The summer growth packs

Not the 10000 RC one

[vast oriole]

Ah no, not sleeping

[lime beacon]

The 2500 RC ones or the 6000 RC ones

[lime beacon]

I was in bed on my phone tho

[coral meteor]

are they more valuable then the valk set ?

[minor briar]

i think the 10k one is gone? or im blind

[vast oriole]

SORRY

[lime beacon]

Yes more mats, the valk one has other stuff in it so depends what you want but the 2500 RC T3 growth (you can get t4 mats from it to) or the 6000 t4 summer growth are the best value per RC.

[lime beacon]

It may be actually prob went away last reset but the other valk packs still around

[coral meteor]

sounds good

[lime beacon]

Those have iirc cube tickets and like the purple pots which uh kinda arent great anymore

[coral meteor]

its the legendary elixirs right or what do you mean with purple pots

[magic sparrow]

Maybe the Kurzan front things ?

[coral meteor]

is this also worth it ? @lime beacon

[magic sparrow]

To refill entry

[foggy venture]

can i comfortably post NAW link on this server?
https://discord.gg/Jyws2Mfs

such as inviting people to NAW raids

[minor briar]

ye sure, its on ?lfg command anyway

but cant u just send in dm's?

[marsh grove]

@coral meteor it's a question of tradable gold vs materials to progress your char

summer packs have good materials to progress

buying new packs on release to sell on market, or buying that discounted blue crystal pack to lifeskill with

can be good for pure gold

[vast oriole]

Link in the command expired iirc because no boost

[indigo marten]

Usually whats the gap of solo mode reward vs normal mode reward?
I would assume HM > NM and solo but idk the gap of NM vs Solo

[molten grove]

how does the just guard mech work? is theres a cool down after pressing a G or can I just spam G infinitely and auto block?

[marsh grove]

pretty sure normal = solo

gold

[vast oriole]

Nm and solo same raid mats

[coral meteor]

how can i life skill with it ? buying Energy pots ?

[vast oriole]

Solo more honing mats

Same gold

[marsh grove]

@coral meteor yes

to use in T4

ideally with a good tool

[lime beacon]

Aura of resonance the elixir pack is meh

[marsh grove]

but again it depends on what you're doing

[vast oriole]

(Echidna is an exception, solo gives more gold than nm)

[coral meteor]

i dont even have that pack

[indigo marten]

Huh so there is no reason for me to play NM aegir

Cause i cant do HM aegir yet

[foggy venture]

ok so i can comfortably post https://discord.gg/Jyws2Mfs on this server as long as its relevant?

[lime beacon]

Its one of the valk launch packs it has aura of res pots in there iirc

[vast oriole]

As long as its not a bus discord, yes

[lime beacon]

That's one of the discord linked in LFG command

?lfg

[buoyant dock]

We have lfgroup and lfstatic channels in each of our region categories (requires region role).
You can filter the postings by clicking on content relevant tags or even 'Learning Group'.
#1051258008853807174/#1051276943619792948/#1051285338569580564

Also check out some LFG/Learning dedicated Discords:
Mokoko elp (EU Central): https://discord.gg/mokokoelp
Loot Heroes (NA East): https://discord.gg/lootheroes
Lost Ark Mokoko's (NA West): https://discord.gg/lost-mokokos
Mokoko Mentors & Co. (German) https://discord.gg/mokokomentors

[coral meteor]

oh you mean the one with 1200 bcs

[minor briar]

usually onetime press cuz theres an anim but some u can spam during the window

[molten grove]

what if i just spam g before window?

[minor briar]

bound vs unbound gold

[indigo marten]

Ah

So thats the difference

[minor briar]

then nothing happens?

lol

[lime beacon]

Doesn't work it has to be timed correctly because when you G it does an animation the animation cant be canceled with another G and the animation has to be timed correctly.

[foggy venture]

ok is it okay to post raids like this?

#na-west-region-chat message

[molten grove]

oh

[lime beacon]

Spamming G over and over just means you do it to early and then you get hit in the animation recovery part.

[minor briar]

leave it in one of the lfg channels

[molten grove]

icic

[minor briar]

not in region chat

[molten grove]

but theres no skill cool down right

[minor briar]

no window is long enough for 2 g animations

[lime beacon]

No skill cool down on it no, so if there's multiple just guard patterns back to back you can hit it

[minor briar]

^ that being diff windows, not just 1

[molten grove]

do u have to face a direction for the G to activate properly?

[minor briar]

depends on the jg

some r boss, some r not(atk location)

[lime beacon]

Yes usually from where the attack originates from sometimes its a floor aoe and it doesn't matter

[molten grove]

i read someone say cursor location matters, like ur cursor has to be where the attack is coming from

[lime beacon]

Sometimes its the boss other times its where the boss hits (like g2 aegir has one where he slams staff down the just guard point is actually where the staff hits the ground not aegir himself)

[unkempt geyser]

is daily island on euc scam or we are just unlucky

[minor briar]

daily adv island?

wdym scam

[unkempt geyser]

rotation is bad af

no gold

is it ever worth to do

[lime beacon]

The thing with just guards is its kinda like a practice makes perfect thing once you get the timing down on it you got it but every just guard has slightly different timing and stuff @molten grove

Think of it kinda like learning parrys in a soulslike if you've ever played those lol

[minor briar]

its predetermined on the calendar

[unkempt geyser]

oh okay

[molten grove]

ok ty

[minor briar]

and "worth" is up to u, if u need soul or wat not

[marsh grove]

are they any big 1 time easy sources of pirate or high sea coins on a relatively new account?

trying to figure out how im gonna afford all 3 map pieces

[dim pulsar]

sea events + isnalds like above (chest with coins)

[hot dock]

does valk really just need 2 skills for chaos

[minor briar]

yes

[minor briar]

not really except for specific express events

used to go like 50 chests or smth

[hot dock]

thats pretty nice, any other class likke that

[torpid elbow]

does any content unlock at 1650?

[minor briar]

breaker, GL

deadeye

[vast oriole]

Artist has one

[minor briar]

scouter

[hot dock]

artist runs with 1 skill?

[vast oriole]

Aero has the rain kinda

Yes

[hot dock]

nice

[vast oriole]

I think slayer has one

[minor briar]

oh ye slayer

[spring wave]

how do i determine if a bracelet is worth keeping/rolling/selling?
from what i can tell .. stuff with like spec + crit sells for 150k+ .. but they also have 5 total effect slots .. my bracelets all only have 4 .. is it luck?

[vast oriole]

Not sure about other classes, i dont play them

[vast oriole]

It is luck

[spring wave]

so any dropped bracelet can have 5 slots?

[vast oriole]

Yes

Either 4 or 5

Its random

[spring wave]

my bracelet is kinda meh i think .. its just good stats and i was mainly concerend about getting spec since im igniter .. but is something like this worth for example? Look at that intelligence stats .. seems like a lot

[minor briar]

2 locked + 3 open, also guaranteed from hell

[spring wave]

1680 hell? Cause i did 1640 and they all have 4 slots

[minor briar]

initially u run watever

[minor briar]

1640 gives relic bracelets

that r 4 slot max

ancient is 5 slot max

[spring wave]

oh, i see

[minor briar]

get wat u get and maybe u can upgrade it when u hit 1680 if its good

[spring wave]

like this one .. it has 2 good stats, but is that thing worth rolling?

[minor briar]

ye, why not

[spring wave]

not sure

thats why im asking

[vast oriole]

Its fine

Sorc right ?

[minor briar]

u cant sell it

so u might as well roll it

[spring wave]

yes, igniter sorc

so i look for crit/spec

but i was wondering if i should give this to one of my other chars

if i can

[vast oriole]

Swift is fine on igniter iirc

At least 1 year ago

[minor briar]

says untradable

[vast oriole]

You cant

[spring wave]

oh

[vast oriole]

Hell bracelets are bound to char

[spring wave]

ohhh

[vast oriole]

All rewards from hell are char bound

[spring wave]

that makes sense i guess

so .. i could try to get spec/crit on this and it would be definitely better, right?

[minor briar]

just roll wat u can and if it has spec + dmg lines, use it

2nd stat doesnt matter too much on sorc

[spring wave]

hmm, i see

is there like a sheet or something

cause these .. 250 options are kinda confusing

[minor briar]

sec

[spring wave]

like a sheet that shows what's good and what isnt

or whats best in slot or x class

would be very cool

[minor briar]

#lost-ark-help message

these r on ancient bracelets so i tihnk the values r down 1 tier

[spring wave]

down 1 tier? What does that mean?

[minor briar]

relic is 1 tier lower than ancient

so that stats r lower

[spring wave]

ahh

[vast oriole]

Theres all values there

[minor briar]

i thought relics were lower

but idr tbh

havent cut 1 in a while

[unkempt geyser]

@minor briar what have higest gold/dmg value for wardancer

gems/books/accs

[minor briar]

it is diff for relic ye

[minor briar]

its the same for every class

[unkempt geyser]

i mean gold value to damage is not same

[minor briar]

the only thing that is diff is gems

[vast oriole]

Oh i see

[minor briar]

but thats still the same prio for most classes

since most classes r not 60% 1 dmg skills

[vast oriole]

most classes are 40% t skill dmg class

[minor briar]

but if u want a list, i can send u a sheet

[unkempt geyser]

would be nice

[minor briar]

but idt u would even need it at ur point of the game cuz ur new no?

[unkempt geyser]

i got 3.5k hours.

[minor briar]

#lost-ark-help message

[unkempt geyser]

i have to edit price ty

[spring wave]

question about paradise .. with igniter sorc, should u just take the skills that do the most possible damage?
Are the enemies in there classified as challenge foes or bosses?

[vast oriole]

@hybrid willow

[spring wave]

or push immune foes?

[elfin granite]

do i get mokoko express on NAW too if i alr have one in NAE?

[hybrid willow]

I go with ignite raid preset and whatever

[elfin granite]

just thought of trying diff classes for fun there

[plain sorrel]

for regular hone without event, from 1640 to 1660 what combination of regular hone and adv hone is cheapest ?

[hybrid willow]

But i think there is paradise build on lolnexus

[vast oriole]

Yes

[spring wave]

i saw that build .. but i was thinking about stuff like .. overheated meteor for example .. since the boss in there basically doesnt move .. that thing does more damage in total than the enhanced meteor

the usual downside being that u cant hit all 24 ticks

but in there .. u can

[hybrid willow]

Well overheat meteor or destruction on PS will increase dmg

Or playing without counter

[vast oriole]

But you can counter the boss

[spring wave]

yeah, thats what im wondering about
should i just take the skills with the highest base dmg .. and the tripods with the most dmg potential

yes, but even with uriell

he moves so little during his attack

[minor briar]

the later bosses move more

[spring wave]

hmm

too much to hit all 24 ticks of overheated meteor?

[hybrid willow]

Also depends how long is fight

[minor briar]

i just go blaze rime sera eso and big 3 and squall

[hybrid willow]

If u just want rewards go default ignite

If u go for ranking u need to adjust based of your time/power blabla

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[spring wave]

im not aiming for rank 1
but top 10% would be neat

[sage dawn]

yoo can someone give me an advise, im in vc :DDD

[dim pulsar]

ask here

[unkempt geyser]

wat

[vast oriole]

Most people wont go to vc, you can ask all questions here

[elfin granite]

oh wait what happens to people with same igns when the servers merge

[dim pulsar]

dont remember how it went with EUC/EUwest

[elfin granite]

rip..

[vast oriole]

Euc kept names and euw needed to change

Because euw went into euc

Depends if nae goes into naw or naw goes into nae

Think we will hear more details with the roadmap

Iirc

[dim pulsar]

prolly NAW into NAE since west is smaller

[elfin granite]

wonder if the server location is just shifted to NAE or how its gonna work

since some people in NAW gon be gaining ping if server moves

[vast oriole]

Yeah but the issues is with oce and sea people

Since they delayed merge for them

[elfin granite]

wdym delayed merge for them

[vast oriole]

They talked about merge last year

And said they cant do it then because of oce and sea players

They will get too much ping

Etc

If they go into nae

[elfin granite]

ahh i see

ooo i didnt know they would think of SEA peeps

[dim pulsar]

oce is kinda problematic for them

[vast oriole]

Yeah

[minor briar]

i heard for SA ppl, the ping on NAW would also be like 200-250 so always gonna be a loser in this merge

[dim pulsar]

its another +50/70 ping to play

[elfin granite]

does it also mean people who has NAW and NAE rosters

can merge them kek

[marsh grove]

from JP NAW is ~100 ping and NAE is ~150

[ruby locust]

why are some chaos gates red and some green ? is there a difference ?

[minor briar]

we dk how its gonna work

but probably just added onto server list

like with SA

[minor briar]

just the type of legion ur fighting

[spring wave]

Whats the efficient approach to getting a decent tool nowadays?
Is it still just a pure RNG gold sink?

[dim pulsar]

yeah its rng

tho lege is kinda cheap now, not like 1y ago when lege was 3-4k per TRY

[spring wave]

so .. do u just buy legendary tools until u get a decent roll?

[dim pulsar]

just go try 2/3 crafts and check if any of that can be usable (better)

[spring wave]

relic tools not worth it at all?

[dim pulsar]

nah i wont pay 35k just to get LOW lines

i have gold for it tho, but its just not worth

[timber mauve]

Some of my friends rolled relic tools because they had nothing else to spend gold on

[spring wave]

hmm .. i would assume there is a statistical average for getting a good relic tool

if u could determine the cost of that, u could figure out how much life skilling u need to do to recoup it

are all lines equally likely to appear?

[dim pulsar]

its just GAMBA but nah i wont PAY 30k

[spring wave]

cause in that case .. easy to do the math

[elfin granite]

ahh so the server moves to NAE so you can cross server instead of being a whole diff region

[dim pulsar]

lines are same % but u can get low roll in Kick attempts like 30% or get high 50%+

[spring wave]

hmm

[dim pulsar]

its still OKAYISH but not that great to have LOW chance

[spring wave]

do we know the chances there of getting a higher line roll?

[dim pulsar]

its way cheaper to roll high lines with lege

[dim pulsar]

[spring wave]

but is the lowest relic line still higher than the highest legendary line?

[dim pulsar]

idk

prolly higher BASE than lege, but is it worth to get 5% more for 30k?

[spring wave]

i mean.. thats the question

my degree involved 1 year of advanced statistics

i can do some advanced analysis stuff in Rstudio

let me do some math

i'll tell u if its worth

[dim pulsar]

thats neat, u would need %s of each lines idk if we got it somewhere here

[spring wave]

any data will help, yes.
If we assume all lines can appear equally .. with 5 lines, it would be a 20% chance for each line to appear

If there is like 9 options for example

u just do a cumulative analysis

if we have the chances for internal rates of each line

i could pretty much determine the exact cost/value

4 lines on legendary
6 lines on relic
?

2 extra lines is quite a lot in this instance

[dim pulsar]

5s?

[spring wave]

my legendary tool has 4