lost-ark-help

[gaunt nexus]

how did you guys reach 1663 after just 2 weeks 😭

me and my friend we are still at 1490 after like 3 weeks of playing

[slate geyser]

I have a video series breaking it down. Did it on a fresh account.

[vast oriole]

they used powerpass

[vernal plaza]

use power pass and events

[balmy plank]

Game knowledge. DB is making a series of it so you can see exactly what he did

[slate geyser]

but yea powerpass brotha

[gaunt nexus]

ohhh

on the topic of item levels

[slate geyser]

A lot of it will be game knowledge though

And I break down exactly what I did to reach that item level.

[gaunt nexus]

do you reckon we can reach 1585 ilvl this wednesday if we have like half the relic set of tier3

[vast oriole]

no

[gaunt nexus]

2 weeks minimum?

[vast oriole]

you need full brel set

[slate geyser]

No. Why not use the powerpass? What's holding you back?

[vast oriole]

then using akkan gear

[open heron]

With honing on the new account

[balmy plank]

No. You need to craft a relic set at 1415. Brel set at 1490. Akkan set at 1580

[gaunt nexus]

my friend used his on characters he doesnt wanna play

[vast oriole]

so it will take you a month

or so

[lime beacon]

you didnt even get particularly lucky either you pittied like multiple pieces this week 😭

[slate geyser]

oh i reckon u saw the week 2 video

yeah my luck was diabolical lmao

if i had the same luck as my main account i'd be 1670 xdd

[vast oriole]

prob want to experience the game since beginning or something

[gaunt nexus]

one more question, if i gear transfer from relic to ancient do we still keep the +15?

[vast oriole]

no it will go back to 12 with better honing chances

and more ilvl

[gaunt nexus]

ahh i see ty

[slate geyser]

Is he at least logging in and doing solo raids? I wouldn't waste the passive gold income.

[gaunt nexus]

ye he's loving the game

[slate geyser]

On the character he doesn't like

Is what I am talking about

[gaunt nexus]

oh no

he's playing the shadowhunter powerpassed only

[balmy plank]

You will jump to 1510 actually. You should always gear transfer when you get a new set, always. Its a soft reset, you keep ilvl, and honing level goes down, odds of success go up

[gaunt nexus]

the sorceress he pwoerpassed he is not touching

[slate geyser]

Yeah, he should imo. Gold is the most important resource in the game.

Even if he doesn't like it, just do the 3 solo raids each week.

Takes legit less than 1hr if you know the raids or learn it well.

[gaunt nexus]

ye but like idk i dont wanna bother doing the same shit to minmax on roster bound gold 😭

[lime beacon]

yea you can bang out all 3 solo mode raids on a char in like 20-25 minutes tbh

[obsidian valve]

gold is gold

[gaunt nexus]

true that

[lime beacon]

especially when you are new

all your gold is going to honing anyways

and for honing gold is gold

[slate geyser]

Yeah I feel ya. But keep in mind that with the progression you and your friend are at -- you will quickly run out of gold and possibly regret it xdd

[gaunt nexus]

ill keep that in mind

i still have an unused powerpass

[open heron]

I didn't even have Valkyrie path thing, I started exactly on the 7th of last month and I reached 1670 by week two. I am pretty sure ifyour luck is good next week you should be reaching 1680. I am on week 3 and at 1689. I am kinda of shocked the gold from Aegir plus express plus Valkyrie path didn't get you to 1670.

[gaunt nexus]

maybe i should use it after gaining this knowledge 😭

[slate geyser]

Nah It'd be impossible to reach 1680 week 3.

Like mathematically that's not possible.

Even week 4 I doubt it unless some luck occurs.

[open heron]

I did xD

[lime beacon]

1670 week 3 tho is probably possible

[obsidian valve]

valk event is too until nov i think, so i parked my sorc at 1660 for now

[lime beacon]

but the cost to get 1680 is prob higher

[slate geyser]

If you did, you must of had some insane luck lol.

Like one tapping multiple pieces of gear.

[gaunt nexus]

we are at a dilemma though, my friend used the express challenge on his powerpassed character and claimed the first reward on it, should he continue playing on the powerpassed character for the roster rewards or wait until he gets to the item level on main character and change the express char

[open heron]

Either I get extremely lucky, I do think I 7 tapped the weapon to +18 but my luck on armour was very average

[gaunt nexus]

cus the rewards look scrumptious

[narrow rock]

Does anyone know where the door is, im trying to rat around elnead to find it but hopefully someone remembers where this is for the title.

[slate geyser]

I don't think you can swap the express character once you start honing or claim any of the rewards.

It could just be honing.

I don't exactly remember.

[lime beacon]

you can claim and swap but if you hone attempt even once its locked

[gaunt nexus]

he still has the Change Character option so i think it might be just honing

[vast oriole]

https://lostarkcodex.com/us/object/120029/

[slate geyser]

Then that confirms it.

[gaunt nexus]

murder drones, W pfp

[slate geyser]

He can wait if he wants.. but getting to 1585 from scratch is a really - really rough experience

[narrow rock]

Thanks

[slate geyser]

He could just.. make a new account haha.

That's what I would of done.

[lime beacon]

farming akkan gear alone takes like 4+ weeks

that fr needs to be changed

[slate geyser]

Yeah. If I really hated my first powerpassed character I would of immediately made a new account.

[open heron]

Rocco was around here the entire journey, from the moment I returned to my 3 years abandoned account on the 7th.

[lime beacon]

yea i think you did get a bit lucky tho iirc i dont think you pittied anything

[slate geyser]

The most intriguing, and most transparent part of this video series I'm doing - is how long it will take to reach trusted.

[open heron]

I did pity a few armour pieces, but I didn't pity the weapon at all lmao

[slate geyser]

I'm really curious if it takes a long time. And hopefully it sheds light to Amazon to fix the dam thing

[open heron]

I don't think I even reached 50% pity on weapon

I still have like 30k untradable destruction stones

[lime beacon]

wait has your friendd claimed the 2nd powerpass?

cause we got two powerpasses the 2nd one has to be claimed in your product inventory and consumed then its added to your account

[gaunt nexus]

ye

he misused one on his first character sorceress and he doesnt wanna play her

and he used another one on shadowhunter to try the class out

[slate geyser]

What he could of done, is used a powerpass on a region he doesn't plan on playing on. For the purpose of testing out the class.

[lime beacon]

^

[slate geyser]

The "1st powerpass" is issued to each region on an account (so 3 powerpasses total)

So effectively, x2 powerpasses (each time amazon gives one out) that you can use to test the class before using the final powerpass on the region you plan on playing on.

And this can be replicated even further via multiple steam accounts.. since there's like 20+ classes in the game lmao

[gaunt nexus]

i dont understand 😭
but disregard this

is it possible for us to reach and complete the express challenge with our main characters if they're 1490 rn?

[slate geyser]

I can quickly show you if you like.

[gaunt nexus]

i think an example would help most ngl

[slate geyser]

Yeah give me one moment.

[gaunt nexus]

so like i reach south vern and i dont wanna play south vern so i use the south kurzan powerpass

how many powerpasses does an account get idk

[lime beacon]

Sadly probably not because getting the akkan gear to get to 1585 and start the event itself can take a month and thats not counting the time it takes to hone to 1580 either

[vast oriole]

1 per region

[lime beacon]

like just farming akkan each week you only can craft like 1 piece

so it will take a while to get the akkan set to get to 1585

[vast oriole]

we get one free every few months also

[gaunt nexus]

wait lemme check my char select

i only have these idk how to check 😭 im slow

[slate geyser]

I'm gonna record a quick video showing you. but i can also hop in vc and stream and u jus listen

[gaunt nexus]

naaah i dont wanna bother u

i dont mind not understanding this dw

[slate geyser]

brother i play lost ark for 14k hours. if anything the game is bothering me, not you lol

[gaunt nexus]

i jus wanted to know about the express challenge cus the rewards look good

[slate geyser]

you should understand it. but your not bothering me. im offering to help for a reason xdd

[gaunt nexus]

ah xd if you wanna help i wont deny

in summary though me and my friend should just do the express challenge on the powerpassed characters

right

[open heron]

Yeah, week 3 mordum lmao, is that really insanely lucky?

[slate geyser]

not entirely.

@gaunt nexus https://discord.com/channels/212635560596996097/938251061737701446

[open heron]

Wait only 5% of the player base reached mordum gate 3 lmao

bots don't go that far

[soft sparrow]

How much can this go for?

[lime beacon]

yea lmao the person ive been helping (though tbf they are pretty bad at doing dailies) has been stuck in the 1670-1680 range for 2 weeks now

3 weeks to 1670 and this would be his 5th week

[open heron]

Only 4% of people killed mordum 5 times i crazy

[lime beacon]

well that includes the huge playerbase we had from launch

remember game launched with like 1 mill+ players lmao

[open heron]

it was atually more like 2 million players

so that isn't that bad

SO like 80000 players defeated mordum 5 times that's actually quite good

[lime beacon]

i get my 10x clear next week

[open heron]

is it roster wide clears?

[lime beacon]

yea

[open heron]

still doesn't matter since its a roster achievement

so atleast 80000 rosters cleared mordum 5 times is still very impressive

[lime beacon]

yea thats pretty good actually

[minor briar]

high low, search for that, remove 3rd line, trades and refine lvl

[open heron]

its probably 120-150k

support acc tend to be very cheap

[vast oriole]

no they arent

xD

this necklace is like 200k+

XD

[open heron]

damn

i guess the valks bought a lot of stuff

[vast oriole]

yeah it went up with valk

but it went up way more since we know we need ancient accs as supp

[icy shuttle]

btw powerpass 1585 is diffeent from 1585 - 1640 something something event, and different from 1660-1680 honing boost event right?

[vast oriole]

yes

[icy shuttle]

ok thx, can use 1585-1640 something something on my old class then

not feel like making Valk anyway

[vast oriole]

powerpass will just skip the story and give you the gear 1585
express event 1580-1660 will give you rewards from doing raids and honign + more honing chances
road 1640 to 1680 will give you rewards from honing and more honign chances

[vast oriole]

sure

[icy shuttle]

btw 40-80 dont give honing chance, it gives double the pity + reduced cost
the honing chance is the same
Source: my own honing experience

Pitied at least 8 pieces

[vast oriole]

i thought i read there was more honing chances on ru patchnotes? but i could be wrong

my bad

[warped bloom]

whats stronger to get on things like accessories and elixirs? weapon power vs atk power vs main stat

[open heron]

https://www.lostark.nexus/

[livid fossil]

Why can’t I counter on valk lol this pissing me off

I hit q and I miss

[static quest]

is there a sheet that shows what enhancement lv carries over to when transfering gear?

like what does a +25 weapon transfer into for instance

[lime beacon]

DPS or sup? dps has 3 counters (2 skills but sword of revelation is two charges)

[open heron]

She has a shit counter i am not gonig lie, compared to my main zerker, but she has a counter, its the crecent slash

[lime beacon]

foresight you have to be pretty close to it

[lime beacon]

sword is also a counter

and sword is the better counter

foresight isnt great

[open heron]

really?

[slate geyser]

There is no gear reset in Tier 4 so I am a bit confused by this question.

[lime beacon]

but sword of revelation is great yes

i always hit counters on my valk lol

[static quest]

nah but there has been multiple times in the past with t3 so I thought its always the same

[lime beacon]

you can even hit the double counter by yourself in mord

[static quest]

and I wanna know if +25 if somewhat future proof

[open heron]

damn it is

[frosty sedge]

hello guys, is 88-92M dps on trixion enough for Brel hard ? mordum NM? returnee 1695 Valkyrie, i want to know dps requirements but cant find information on that . Thx

[slate geyser]

Yeah but those gear resets occured years and years ago. The game brings you to 1585. At that point and beyond, gear resets do not exist. Besides hitting 1620, then transferring to T4 relic which gets you to 1640.

[lime beacon]

well trixion DPS isnt a great gauge cause you dont have sup

[slate geyser]

Lol no, far from the case.

[stray goblet]

whats your combat power

[slate geyser]

You get +19 akkan ancient on all gear and weapon to hit 1620 then you transfer to 1640.

[stray goblet]

its more than enough im pretty sure

[frosty sedge]

1345 combat power

[stray goblet]

thats pretty good

[frosty sedge]

ok i'll try and see xd thx

[open heron]

Guys i just found out that you can buy weekly gems from the kayangel shop keepe,r damn, i wish i knew this 3 weeks ago lmao

[vague wing]

Heya. I got a question. I came back after a long time. We don't have dailies right now? As in, daily quests. Or which ones do we do right now?

[static quest]

no u get me wrong, I mean if I +25 my weapon rn, will I get cocked with the next gear transfer in the future or can I get a +20 when transfering? im at the current t4 relic I dont have to transfer anything rn

[stray goblet]

una dailies arent a thing anymore

[open heron]

Are there other shop keeprs that sell tradable gems?

[vague wing]

oooh

[slate geyser]

Daily Una Tasks only exist now for reputation purposes (like T4 enlightenment potion horizontal content for example). Weekly Una Tasks is what's important noow.

[livid fossil]

She has 2 but I missing that bad what one is better lol

[vague wing]

Ohh tyvm ❤️

[slate geyser]

You will get cooked because getting +25 weapon in tier 4, this late into the game, is not worth it.

[lime beacon]

t4 relic can only go up to +20 but when you transfer to ancient itll also be +20

[slate geyser]

Also that, yeah. You cannot go beyond +20 until you get Aegir Ancient Gear.

[gaunt nexus]

@slate geyser he said he's just gonna take the game slow and he doesn't mind it 💀

[slate geyser]

But even if you had Aegir ancient gear, you are months late in terms of thinking about +25 weapon.

[static quest]

yeah I already did that, its +20 rn, I can literally keep enhancing it

[slate geyser]

If you wanted it, you should of gotten it a long time ago.

[static quest]

im almost 1700

[lime beacon]

hmm? relic t4 is locked to +20

[gaunt nexus]

he's like "can i ask for a refund of powerpass" 😭

[balmy plank]

Right now there is no next gear transfer. Nobody knows how something that doesnt exist will work

[lime beacon]

ancient unlocks 21-25

[slate geyser]

He's likely going to regret that decision, but it's his account not mine so w/e. And no you cannot get a refund. The game warns you multiple times before selecting.

[static quest]

yes I meant ancient not relic

[slate geyser]

You can. But to +25. No.

[lime beacon]

youd be better off saving mats and just using those to AH

[slate geyser]

Yep.

[lime beacon]

use special honing taps everyonce in a while on the wep from hell

[slate geyser]

+25 was only 'a good choice' if you pushed for it early on when tier 4 aegir raid released.

Thinking about it now, it's a bit late for that.

Gear reset will likely happen with the next raid after Kazeros.

[open heron]

Yeah, this is most likely going happen

[static quest]

yeah but the weapon would be +20 then, no?

[open heron]

with new tier 4 rairty

[slate geyser]

huh??

[balmy plank]

We dont know because it doesnt exist

[static quest]

it doesnt but its been done like 3 times already in t3

it has always been the same hasnt it?

the not inventing anything new

[slate geyser]

I'll make this very easy for you Valtarra.

[lime beacon]

yea and each time the higher you went/overhoned in the previous zone you got less ilvl

[stray goblet]

yeah we dont know if they'll do it same way

[slate geyser]

TL;DR, do not go for +25.

Don't think too much about it.

Just take my word for it.

[stray goblet]

for real tho dont go to 25

[static quest]

should I waste my money on relic books then? hell nah

[slate geyser]

That's a way better decision

Then going for +25

lmao

[static quest]

2M for less than a 1% dmg increase

[lime beacon]

yes and ah21-40

[open heron]

huh?

[static quest]

what is ah21-40?

[stray goblet]

how much gold do u think 25 weapon is

[open heron]

isn't it like 2.5% damage increase?

[lime beacon]

advanced honing has 21-40 from doing mordum

[static quest]

idk 3-6M?

[stray goblet]

lmao

[open heron]

i am pretty sure 1 level of grudge is 2.5%

[slate geyser]

Your priority should be advanced honing 21-40. Which is a progression system accompanied by the Mordum raid.

[lime beacon]

can gain 20 ilvls from that

[slate geyser]

Try double that.

[lime beacon]

it also increses items base stats

its worth much more then honing wep further

[slate geyser]

^^

[static quest]

but I lot of ppl just park their gear at +20 and push their weapon

even supps

[lime beacon]

i went to +22 on my valk but that was with special honing taps saving all my fusions and other mats to be able to do 31-40 next week

[lime beacon]

thats after doing ah21-40

you can push weapon further after doing that if you want

[static quest]

nah, they have 20 on their gear and 40 on their weapon

[slate geyser]

Then they are missing brain cells.

[lime beacon]

yea and thats incredibly inefficient lmao

[static quest]

does flat ilvl increase overall dmg?

[open heron]

also engravings work on the entire rooster while weapons to +25 only on the character

[static quest]

I thought ilvl is literally just a raid entry check

[slate geyser]

Wtf. No

[lime beacon]

ah21-40 increases base stat

which is like int/str/dex

[static quest]

and ah1-20 doesnt?

[lime beacon]

it doesnt as much no

[stray goblet]

no honing your armor gives strenght int etc

[lime beacon]

no

[slate geyser]

It does not, no.

[static quest]

okay I didnt know bc I kept my mordum mats

[slate geyser]

Item level increase at a base value, does increase damage though.

[static quest]

so I should probably use them

[slate geyser]

a 1660 character is doing to do more damage than a 1680 character

Or 1610 character will do more dmg than a 1620 character

Ilvl isn't just a raid entry check. It increases damage..

But item level is not king. Too many people focus on that.

[stray goblet]

you can see your stats going up aswel

[slate geyser]

Gems and books are equally, or if not, more important than item level - depending on what item level you are currently at.

[lime beacon]

but yea lot of other things you can improve other then +25 wep even after 21-40

[stray goblet]

gems are the best value i think not sure

[lime beacon]

like getting all lvl eight gems

books

etc

even for dps valk the lvl eight gems are nice for the CDs

[static quest]

I think my gems are good atm though

[slate geyser]

I see way too many people at 1700 or 1720 item level sitting around with level 7 gems, or hardly any relic books at all.

It's depressing to look at.

[static quest]

dont think pushing them gives me a lot more value

[stray goblet]

make em full 8s

[lime beacon]

i have similar still could upgrade those sevens to eight

[slate geyser]

There is no logic in pushing item level while also having shitty gems and shitty books.

[stray goblet]

it does your char is literally have to spam skills

if u get more cd u get more dmg

[lime beacon]

i got to 1720 on my valk this week, but i am gonna stop honinh except for doing 31-40 on wep then after that im buying books every week

[slate geyser]

If you can buy a level 10 damage gem, you can work on books.

[open heron]

Yeha i would aim for 1720 on main, when weeks away from kazeros i would push it to 1730, that's my plan

[slate geyser]

Finish advanced honing, work on books

Those are your next two goals buddy.

[lime beacon]

^ this is basically what im doing

i got the same gems as him to even lol

[open heron]

But you should work on your gems, acc, and engravings

[stray goblet]

also doesnt valk get more dmg from crit rate?

[static quest]

and park all of my gear at +20?

[slate geyser]

Yes? The next raid is 1720.

Finishing advanced honing

puts you at 1720

[lime beacon]

yes you want 100% c.rate but you can hit it without adrenaline relic but with adrenaline relic you can like drop zealous and go unlimited magick 2 and stuff

adrena oppens up more options in ark passive

even just the first node opens up going limit break and dropping a KS

[open heron]

next raid is act 4 1700-1720 normal hard, and kazeros 1710-1730 normal and hard

they will both be coming at the same time

and strike its 1680-1720

i think thaemine extreme is 1680?

[static quest]

wait, so how much crit do I need for that?

[open heron]

and it doesn't have hard

[lime beacon]

this is how my sup valk looks

[static quest]

more?

[lime beacon]

check stat details

this doesnt include ark passive nodes

[static quest]

okay 86,44%

[lime beacon]

yep so you are at 100% with base adrenaline

[jade berry]

is there any guide on video settings to solve these damned frame drops? i get like 0.5-1s frame drops in guardian, chaos, etc

[lime beacon]

but if you got relic adrenaline you could drop keen sense move into limit break

and if you get c.rate bracelet you go back into keen sense and drop zealous smite

[static quest]

are we talking about base relic adrenaline? or upgraded?

[vast oriole]

it was like that in kr, we dont know yet if it will be same time for us

[lime beacon]

upgraded 5 node let you go 1 keensense 1 limit break

[lime beacon]

yes thats legendary adrenaline

[open heron]

it can't be in any other way tbh xd, the ark grid system kinda of needs both i just looekd at the guide

[lime beacon]

relic would be full charge nodes there

[vast oriole]

youc an get ark grid from act 4

and people will be mad if we get kazeros race at christmas

dont forget they delayed brel last year because of that

[open heron]

not the highest rarity ones tho

[vast oriole]

yes

but people will cry if theres race at christmas

[open heron]

ancient ones are locked behind hard kazeros

[vast oriole]

you cant go hard kazeros till tfm is cleared

and people will cry if race in christmas

again

[open heron]

which i think will happen week one fo us

[lime beacon]

No act 4 can also drop ancients

its just a rare drop

[slate geyser]

No diff. Hard Kazeros will be unlocked day 1

[open heron]

do they?

[slate geyser]

because amazon doesn't care if you speedhack

or practice in other regions

[open heron]

its not even speed hacking, everyone will know the mechs and prcatice as you said in KR

[lime beacon]

thats from the KR notes

thats been translated

[slate geyser]

It's not everyone. Just a handful of people.

[lime beacon]

HM kaz just gives more cores

[slate geyser]

But some 'people' will for sure speedhack.

[open heron]

i am like very certain either they will not do first mode here or it will becleared within hours

[lime beacon]

i mean they did thae the first

[slate geyser]

The first mode is 100% happening in our region.

[open heron]

that was like 2 years ago

[slate geyser]

And it will be cleared in a few hours or days for sure.

[open heron]

their strategy hanged

[open heron]

oh kazeros doesn't drop epic ones lmao

[lime beacon]

neither does act 4 HM

[open heron]

hard echidna also doesn't drop them

[slate geyser]

Epic cores come from guardian raids I believe.

[lime beacon]

nah just the gems you equip into the cores

someone said just unlocking a core slot gives like 500 cp lmao

[vast oriole]

msot speedhackers on eu got banned back then

[slate geyser]

I believe it. The system is supposed to be a massive leap in power.

[open heron]

I think we aren't getting first mode tbh, we might get the first clear thing, but i think chances we get first mode are very slim

[slate geyser]

They still linger around in other regions unfortunately.

To this day

[stray goblet]

why wouldnt we

[vast oriole]

for people practicing in other regions, it will be harder than thaemine since you need to practice on kr and playing on kr is very annoying

for thae, there was ru

[open heron]

Because they didn't it for 2 years

[vast oriole]

ru is super easy to play there

[slate geyser]

Well there's people in Saintone's group who main the NA region.

[vast oriole]

theres no verifications

yes i know

but its still very annoying to play kr

compared to ru

[slate geyser]

This is true. But you just need help from a streamer. No diff.

[open heron]

And priorities for Lost Ark global changed so much

[vast oriole]

i still think they shoudl release the race in november or max beginning of december

[stray goblet]

the only tfm mode was thae tho thats the 2. we are gtting in general

[vast oriole]

but we all know ags likes to do patches at the end of the month

no we will get tfm

[livid fossil]

I feel like I am cooked trying to counter on g1 encinada with Valkyrie

[vast oriole]

what are you saying

[open heron]

i think tis early november, from what it seemed they aren't like they used to be where they delayed raids, it seems they are now very consistent behind KR

[vast oriole]

they just said 14 for kazeros

[open heron]

if we get strike this month, kazeros will be the month and a half after

[vast oriole]

so its oct-december

[livid fossil]

I can’t counter the stupid mec

[stray goblet]

i still dont understand why u thought we wouldnt get it lol

[slate geyser]

We are 100% getting TFM lol.

[vast oriole]

theres still thae extreme that we dont have

[open heron]

Because their priorities changed, i don't know, that's my take, we could get it, but i feel like we won't

[lime beacon]

we will get catastrophe aegir to hold us over for kazz delay to early jan

[stray goblet]

uhm

[vast oriole]

its not about priorities

[stray goblet]

yeah lol

[slate geyser]

Amazons priorities have never changed.

[vast oriole]

ags knows people are waiting for the race

[slate geyser]

Looks like you have us confused with Tencent.

Tencent has changed priorities. Not Global.

[open heron]

i honestly legit wonder if we ever getting this

i know we get paradise

[slate geyser]

They said we are.

[open heron]

from CN

[open heron]

Wait they did?

[slate geyser]

Yes..

[stray goblet]

we didnt get paradise from cn tho

[slate geyser]

After Kazeros we will get Castrophe.

This has been known for a while.

[open heron]

Damn

i like that

The question is are we getting extreme thaemine?

[slate geyser]

Of course.

[stray goblet]

yes

[vast oriole]

yes we will

[slate geyser]

You are thinking too much about this Marionette.

We are the "copy pasta" region.

Whatever KR gets, we will get.

[stray goblet]

yeah bro they give everything to us

[vast oriole]

but better

xd

[stray goblet]

just few months later

also that

[slate geyser]

Yep. This track record has existed since the games inception.

[open heron]

when the game launched were like what? 1 year and a half behind?

how did we go from 1 year to 3 months

[stray goblet]

more than a year but thats how it works

[slate geyser]

By shoving content down our throats

That caused a lot of people to burn out

[stray goblet]

they were launching the content that already existed

so they could release stuff faster

[open heron]

like vykas kakul?

[slate geyser]

Yes

[open heron]

those launchd very quickly here

[slate geyser]

Yep

[dim pulsar]

it was nightmare to catch up to those raids

it slowed at brell only

[slate geyser]

On all 6 characters, yeah it was.

Basically impossible unless you swiped

[stray goblet]

36 gates a week

[dim pulsar]

even my 2 char roster was kinda bad

[lime beacon]

tyhats how i got most of my mileage points

[dim pulsar]

had sorc and pala at 1475 back then when brell was out

after that was reaper rly bad dps

[lime beacon]

how many t4 shards do we get a week about

[dim pulsar]

300ish

[lime beacon]

cause i need 3.8 mill shards to finish AH to get to 1730 on my valk

[open heron]

the game launched at late 2022, am i crazy or did vaykas and kakul also release in 2022? Only brel released 2023?

actually kayangel probably released late 2023?

[dim pulsar]

it was february

[lime beacon]

it didnt release late 2022

it released early 2022

[dim pulsar]

14th? like

[lime beacon]

but valtan vykas and kakul all released 2022

iirc kakul was like november of 2022

[dim pulsar]

yeah waaaaay too fast

[runic kelp]

am I gonna land on 99.99 artisan's

[dim pulsar]

some of our chars were at early T3 back then

[lime beacon]

people spending 1000 USD to do argos on release kekw

[dim pulsar]

dont juice then

[dim pulsar]

we did like infinite chaos to farm leaps that were tradable then they made them untradable

[open heron]

were brel kayangel in 2023 and that's it?

actually nvm

akkan was also 2023 i think?

[stray goblet]

kaya

ew

[lime beacon]

yea brel kaya and akkan were 2023 iirc

[dim pulsar]

brel hard, kaya and akkan so yeah

it was SPEEEEEEEEED Run of raids

[open heron]

thaemine ivory and behemoth were 2024?

echidnawas also 2024?

[lime beacon]

ivory-thaemine,behe, and echidna were 24 yea

but behe and echidna had similar ilvl and stuff

so it wasnt nearly as bad

[dim pulsar]

aegir was also 24

[lime beacon]

where old raids had bigger gaps between em

[slate geyser]

actually, all 4 of them had a similar item level

[lime beacon]

yea

[slate geyser]

Ivory was 1620 hm, thaemine was 1630 hm, echidna was 1630 hm, and behemoth was 1620

so it wasn't that bad

[dim pulsar]

wasnt bad, but bruh they gatekeept behe for elixirs and trans so was bad

1620 was trash ilvl to be doing behes

[slate geyser]

yeah but thaemine and ivory were out for quite a while

so no excuse there xdd

[slate geyser]

I mean I didn't have a problem with it

[stray goblet]

was behe hard at 1620

[lime beacon]

yea ivory released like really early in the year and thae followed it like what 2 months after

[dim pulsar]

but trans was normal 1-3, after behe they made it normal to 7

[dim pulsar]

kinda, wasnt easiest, but doable

[open heron]

kind of crazy, Aegir, brel, mordum, echidna part 2 and kazeros all will released in 2025

[lime beacon]

you actually had to do the mechs

[lime beacon]

aegir was october last year

[dim pulsar]

but bruh 16 bozos with near 1620 ilvl was near enrage

[slate geyser]

it was jus a damage check, and a x3+1 check. it was easy. it's only hard if you had people who didn't know how to do damage

[open heron]

what did people think of ivory its like the less talked about dung, people mention kayangel more then it

[lime beacon]

just had to do mech like actually fight the guardians and stuff in g1 lol

[slate geyser]

yeah. it was the fastest progged raid in the history of the game lol

fight was a literal joke on release

[dim pulsar]

ivory was okay since g1 was chill, g2 bit tricky, g3 was nightmare for someppl, g4 was nice

[lime beacon]

g1 is boring g2 was actually fun and people did like the fight in my experience, g3 was annoying if you had people who couldnt look at boss animations/couldnt counter

or if you had all classes with trash stagger

the hm mirrors

[dim pulsar]

g3 was BAD if u get stacks

[slate geyser]

old ivory g3 was pretty nice

[lime beacon]

yea i liked old g3

[dim pulsar]

for me as arty was fun

could get 10+ stacks and be fine

[lime beacon]

i was talking about g4 there, but g3 on release was fun

[open heron]

i wonder if we going start next year with an abyss dung

since they slowing raids

[lime beacon]

though sometimes you had bozos who didnt understand their position for some reason

i kinda wish they removed g1 ivory and kept old g3

tho

g1 is actually so boring

[open heron]

Speaking of

[dim pulsar]

g4 x65 mech was weird when 1 bozo couldnt aim for portal

[open heron]

did hard ivory give more gold then hard akkan?

[lime beacon]

yes iirc

[dim pulsar]

was 1620 it had to give more

[candid lake]

yes

[lime beacon]

that was never really a problem for me it was always people not doing mirror counters right

[static quest]

ayyy

[lime beacon]

like theyd fall for the feints

[candid lake]

I had a friend who wanted to do x3 and x3+1

[lime beacon]

thats what jailed me most of the time in pubs

[open heron]

Damn, this means if we start next year with an abyss dung mordum for gold is dead RIP

[dim pulsar]

welp i had more or less static for it, but when 1 bozo outside of it was allways BAD with all gates

[candid lake]

and im like what if both counters are real and appear at the same time?

[lime beacon]

what thats insane

[candid lake]

literally

like the 11 22 33 44

literally has no downsides

unless if you're a slow af class

or can't remember

[dim pulsar]

even with slow, u just do counter and move to another 1

[lime beacon]

i liked g2 on ilvl it was fun

[dim pulsar]

sorcs was op, doom doom doom doom

[lime beacon]

i hated original kaya g1 tho

[dim pulsar]

and me was like? huh i dont want to barrage and just leave, dont want to leave barrage since cs was 5/6s, but had to get orbs

and if 1 bozo took my orb while i WAS STANDING ON THE WAY i was deadge like 2s after

[lime beacon]

g1 vykas was also such a troll gate

[dim pulsar]

g3 bridge oof

[open heron]

I have an important question, what are the chances we get ancient books? I feel like it's a such bad idea, but now there is a lot of "chances" to get relic books with the release of Kazeros that it feels like next raid will have ancient books

[dim pulsar]

they would GIVE free relic books since they so expensive and we dont even have them done (kr also) so why ANCIENT books?

lege was T3 thingy, relic is T4

so if they wont do T5 after like 5months they wont even introduce ancient

[open heron]

Actually you have a point

[dim pulsar]

another gold sink in books would be nightmare

we dont even have 100% relic drop in raids

[open heron]

I think they know how bad the idea is

Because imagine you spent 20 millions to get your engravings done

[lime beacon]

God tier accessories (next tier after ancient) and its how you get the rest of your enlightenment points to max out side nodes and they roll 4 substat lines

[open heron]

Just for them to go down in price because a new book released

[dim pulsar]

nah they wont go down in price

they would sell grudge ancient for like 2m for 1 so

[open heron]

It's kind of so weird that Kazeros didn't bring new gear rarity am I the only feeling this way?

[balmy plank]

We had class engravings people bought x20 for 20k each which was insanely expensive at the time. Maybe they will add ancient books, maybe they wont. But the price you apy now for relic books wont change anything

[open heron]

Like I thought after Kazeros the expected item level would be 1740

[lime beacon]

I mean ark grid is prob a bigger then then ilvl

[dim pulsar]

act4+kazeros brings Grid Ark system

[lime beacon]

i bet future raids will be more like recommended CP where you can enter based on ilvl but theres no way you hit dps req without certain CP amount

ark grid gives giga cp

[lavish mortar]

Next raid will probably be t4 upper ancient or something

[open heron]

Tbh, now I think about it yeah... You guys 100% right

Didn't we get relic gear from Echidna?

[dim pulsar]

nah we will see in winter loa

[balmy plank]

No, she gave adv honing mats

[lime beacon]

Nope echidna was just ahdvanced honing on release

[dim pulsar]

nah, relic was T4 introduce

[lime beacon]

they changed her accessories to t4 after t4 released

[dim pulsar]

echidna was before

[open heron]

Like its not that hard to imagine us getting next rarity gear from a "nobody" raid. Not saying Echidna id a nobody, but it's not the same level as Thaemine or Kazeros

[open heron]

Huh?

So behemoth?

[lime beacon]

i mean we started t4 gear with just kenuart fortress lmao

and aegir was when we upgraded that set

[dim pulsar]

behe was T3 for us

[lime beacon]

yea behe and echidna released as t3 raids

[open heron]

It gets upgraded to tier 4?

[dim pulsar]

after T4 re they just changed to give T4 mats

same with echidna

[lime beacon]

yea they changed it after we got t4 release

[open heron]

Why didn't they upgrade Thaemine to tier 4 people would do some hard Thaemines then

[dim pulsar]

they nerfed him to be 1620

so he stayed T3

[gaunt nexus]

is shadowhunter better than souleater?

[lime beacon]

actually at the time people still would run thae hards cause 4 gate thae hard gave more gold then behe iirc

[vast oriole]

no

[dim pulsar]

no, SE better

[lime beacon]

so when aegir first came out theyd rotate

do thae g1-g4 echi, aegir on week

[gaunt nexus]

what's the best class in the game

[lime beacon]

behe,echi, aegir next week

[vast oriole]

deathblade XD

[lime beacon]

dont meta chase tho

[vast oriole]

never nerfed, always top 5

[dim pulsar]

g4 thae was kinda trap when T4 re free 1640 bozos

[lime beacon]

if you pick class based on meta and then perform floor on that class ytou will be bad

[vast oriole]

db is smilegate favorite child

[dim pulsar]

i tend to play B+/A class so i wont get hit by nerfs much

[lime beacon]

pick class based on playstyle rather then rank

[dim pulsar]

^^

i had 3 mains (sorc/reaper/slayer) and now i play arty x6 since its fun for me

[open heron]

I wonder with the release of next years gold content,will people be joyful at the death of mordum or nah?

[lime beacon]

i have two SEs, but i grew tired of SE and main swapped to valk

[dim pulsar]

reaper was nice but her dmg was

[candid lake]

mordum isnt that bad imo

[open heron]

No cap, mordum is fun it's just gate 1 that annoys the hell of because of its boring ass long cutscenes

[lime beacon]

mordum with ark grid probably going to die as fast as behemoth

[candid lake]

g3 after awhile is a breeze

[dim pulsar]

remove g2 and i will like it

[lime beacon]

i think i am the only weirdo who has g2 as my fave gate

lmao

[open heron]

"WITNESS THE END OF ARKESIA!"

Bruh, says while he is raiding a bald dragon

[dim pulsar]

its like old G3 brell, was okayish after like 150 runs, but still not great

[open heron]

I am actually a fellow weirdo with you

I think gaye 2 is actually very fun

[lime beacon]

but fr doing mordum with ark grid from act 4 and kaz

hes going to die like behemoth

[open heron]

Gate 2 and 3 are really enjoyable no cap

[dim pulsar]

btw brells gonna be awfull when no 1700+ bois here

[open heron]

I mean she is going be turned solo most likely

[lime beacon]

ill still run it for destiny stones to get enlightenment 30

[dim pulsar]

nah who did all points wont bother with that

[open heron]

People still do Echidna and behe

So I won't worry about finding players

[dim pulsar]

tokens only

[open heron]

Special honing mat too

[lime beacon]

i do them for the destiny stones

cause i had to pity 5 levels on valk this week

[dim pulsar]

for now too, but after doing min karma they wont

i have to get like 1500 dest to get all rats

[lime beacon]

well brel also still does give ancient bracleets,accessories and stuff and still also can drop relic book to

[open heron]

Also their mats can be exchanged for either honing or the blue and red % thingy I forget their names

Which are expensive and useful

[dim pulsar]

thats fair point, 1680 stuff is gonna be still worth

[lime beacon]

brel NM will prob die tho

[dim pulsar]

1670 deadge

[lime beacon]

but hopefully by that point brel solo is here

[dim pulsar]

i think so

would be great for my rats

[open heron]

I mean they have to

[dim pulsar]

or other rosters to do solo aegir + brell

[open heron]

The new players won't be able to do their karma if they don't do solo Brel lmao

[dim pulsar]

welp aegir was recent update so

like almost 1 year

with no new solos

also Final Act isnt like necessary to do

[open heron]

I have a question, should I go for enlightenment and leap to 25 even before touching evolution at all? I keep hearing it's shit

[dim pulsar]

we will see after winter loa on tho

[vast oriole]

enlight -> leap -> evo

[lime beacon]

thing is last year when they dropped thae and echidna solo at the same time echidna was much more recent then thae

[vast oriole]

i personally stopped at 21 on alts

[dim pulsar]

they might do brell solo

[dim pulsar]

wait u got 0 evo done?

[open heron]

Yeah

[dim pulsar]

aaaand its ur main? or alt

if main its weirdge

[open heron]

Main

[livid fossil]

Have not done karma yet either

[open heron]

You mean 21 21 21?

[vast oriole]

yes

[open heron]

I see thanks

[vast oriole]

i went 25 after that only on main

[lime beacon]

it takes a while doing brel nm tho

with brel HM ill only finish leap 6 next week

[open heron]

I actually wonder was hard Brel considered an easy hard even at release?

Brel isn't an easy boss by any means, but the hard difficult for hards was considered easy?

[lime beacon]

No hard brel was actually hard on release with frontier system shes had her HP nerfed quite a bit

[open heron]

was it everything nerfed lmao

[lime beacon]

plus you didnt have karma yet

[open heron]

Every time I ask about a raid I found out it was nerfed lmao

[vast oriole]

we got her nerfed on like 2 patterns

that were particularly deadly for kr release

• like 8% hp nerf

[lime beacon]

thing is even in HM progs p1 g2 was really the only reset spot

[vast oriole]

and then frontier nerfs hit and she was nerfed even more on hp and dmg dealth

[lime beacon]

if you got through there it wasnt bad though x145 people could mess up

and because there was no revive someone messed up there and you lose their dps and dps was tight on release

[vast oriole]

^

brel hard was a harder dps check than mordum on release

[open heron]

Revives are post mordum?

[vast oriole]

revives got added after 3rd of mordum

but they are for all kazeros raids

[open heron]

Why did they feel the need to add them?

[vast oriole]

to help casuals

[open heron]

Was this during the time a lot of people were coming and returning?

[vast oriole]

revives are also good if you do one mistake

[dim pulsar]

they go for casual friendly ark so more ppl play

[vast oriole]

yes

[dim pulsar]

they want it more like wow when u can revive 1 bozo after bad move

so they went and go +1 life for everyone

[deep otter]

anyone have a rough estimate on how much it might cost to push a 1680/1700 in total mats/gold from 0? Just powerpassed with or without event

[open heron]

I know act 4 has revives, but I think Kazeros doesn't? Is it because first mode thing?

[dim pulsar]

go for honning calc

[balmy plank]

Raids are mandatory. There is no option to just skip over them. On top of that people are farming 18 raids a week every week. Revives ares just a step to make it easier and lessen the burden

[vast oriole]

just because tfm

[median gorge]

How to doge Mordum 180 grab?

[dim pulsar]

tfm doesnt, idk if hard have

[latent violet]

tfm has no revives yea

[deep otter]

how do u go about calcing that

[vast oriole]

will prob have

[dim pulsar]

lostark.nexus and down here is calc

[deep otter]

oh would it tell me the cost of pushing a new character from 0?

[dim pulsar]

as 1680 u can go 2 ways, +30 ah or +18 full

[slate geyser]

What do you mean from 0? A fresh character that does not use a powerpass or express event?

[vast oriole]

be in the front or on the edge

[dim pulsar]

he means no gold and shards after 1680 event

[lime beacon]

you either run to the outside, or you stand under his armpit where he slammed down initially

[deep otter]

either scenario, for sure powerpassed but not always with express event

[dim pulsar]

soo 1680 is +16 and 10ah

[deep otter]

whatever ilvl the powerpass gives

[livid fossil]

imagine that hell fresh account 0- hero no pp no trusting LOL

😂

[dim pulsar]

so u need +18 all +20Advanced

[slate geyser]

From the item level the powerpass gives - 1585 to 1700 would be a few mil

[deep otter]

is that buying materials or raw gold?

[dim pulsar]

4m shards+ and some like 700k gold

[slate geyser]

That's a combination of both.

[lime beacon]

it took me 2.8 mill to get my valk from 1585-1720 but i had all the mats and everything and i got lucky on some early hones on late ilvls on some of my pieces

[dim pulsar]

just for taps, no red, no blue, no fusions

[lime beacon]

same with special taps and stuff

[slate geyser]

A few mil minimum if you are buying materials from the market.

[dim pulsar]

like 7m if u need to buy all

shards aint cheap

but @lime beacon did whale some shop so he gucci

[astral root]

does anyone know hte drop rate for valtan cards in solo akkan

[slate geyser]

of specific cards, no

[dim pulsar]

low, dont know what %

[slate geyser]

3% drop rate for legendary cards from legion raid/abyss dungeon

[dim pulsar]

its low for Card, and low for Valtan one

so like 0.2% for that specific

[astral root]

tyty

[open heron]

shards being so expensive needs to be studied

like why smilegate? Leapstones were the "expensive" mat, why did shards take the title i don't get ths

[dim pulsar]

$$ shards are cheaper

they made T3 shard system in T4 and its bad to rush char

since pots arent even giving u much

[slate geyser]

Shards start to never become a problem once the character is parked for a while

As an example, my 1726 main has 5mil+ shards and my x5 1700 alts (excluding Valkyrie) has 4mil+ shards

[open heron]

yeah, i can see that

[slate geyser]

By just playing for a while shards end up never being an issue.

[dim pulsar]

like 4/5 weeks without honning i have 1.3m so easy

• crucible mats

rushing char is what makes u get 0 shards

[vague wing]

Hey guys. I got a question. I am new to Paradise thing. Usually, in hell, what chest is the best one to go for?

I got level 7 bound gold / Leapstone / Bracelet

[slate geyser]

Whatever you are lacking the most. Whether it be fusion materials, gold, etc.

[vague wing]

Ahhh so it's basically a mode that gives you free mats

[dim pulsar]

what ilvl u got here boi?

[lime beacon]

yea shards really are only painful when you are pushing a char

[slate geyser]

hm?

[dim pulsar]

t3 ->gold = special taps

[lime beacon]

if you park a char for any amount of time they add up fast

[dim pulsar]

t4->special>gold>bracelet if bad>shards>rest

[open heron]

what item level are you?

[slate geyser]

what do you mean what is my ilvl here. im confused

[candid lake]

how about fusions

🤔

[dim pulsar]

it was for complains

[slate geyser]

oh

[dim pulsar]

same as free taps i guess

[lime beacon]

use it to hone

[open heron]

Well, at 1680 hell key braclets are probably better then gold

if you don't have a good one yet

[dim pulsar]

true, depens what u rly need

[slate geyser]

Not at all lol.

[dim pulsar]

i mean if he got ass bracelet (relic even) then bracelet is nice

[slate geyser]

All of the bracelets I have on all my characters have been obtained by naturally playing the game. You would only choose bracelet when every other option is terrible.

[open heron]

why wouldn't it be? a high mid braclet is like what 500k at market?

[dim pulsar]

the thing is what ilvl he is

[open heron]

you could sell the braclet you get for more gold

its RNG

[dim pulsar]

if u cut it like that yeah

[open heron]

but not so bad

[slate geyser]

You can't sell bracelets you get from Paradise.

It's all character bound.

[dim pulsar]

for like 50 bracelets u would need to have 10 good ones to even cut

after that 10 u MIGHT get 1 thats usable

[slate geyser]

Bracelet is like... the last thing on your list to worry about lmao.

[lime beacon]

all my decent 3 liner braclets i got from naturally playing the game ive only started getting 4-5 line really good bracelets from paradise tho

[slate geyser]

You'll get a decent one by just playing the game.

[dim pulsar]

new 1680 wont give u enough bracelets so welp

its all the ilvl what he is

if T3 then gold is tha way

and special free taps

[slate geyser]

I still wouldn't choose bracelet. Even if my fresh EU account I started 2 weeks ago hit 1680.

[dim pulsar]

u wont, but many will

and its ok

[open heron]

WHat? are acc also character bound form paradise?

[slate geyser]

yes

[astral root]

yep

[open heron]

Wtf

[dim pulsar]

all shit from hell is char bound

[open heron]

that is just petty

[candid lake]

I would never choose accesories tho

you still have to use the gems and gold to cut them..

and if you get something good for another char, then gg

[dim pulsar]

yep acc is shit, 150 to cut with GOLD and scraps its hellish

[slate geyser]

https://uwuowo.mathi.moe/character/NAE/Deathboixx/roster

Every bracelet on my main 6 has been obtained by playing the game, including my main. The things I'd go for is honing materials and gold. That is what a lot of people are lacking, unless they have a stacked roster like this.

[candid lake]

unless if you're valc

[dim pulsar]

they should made them atleast SILVER cut

[open heron]

100% agree

you already gate keep them with rare mat

why add the gold

[dim pulsar]

i mean ur above 1700, so its natural that u have bracelets

[slate geyser]

These bracelets were all cut and obtained when the current content was prior to 1700 chaos/guardian

[dim pulsar]

u cut them before paradise prolly so doesnt matter now

[slate geyser]

Yeah still wouldn't go for Bracelet. Anyone coming into this channel to ask questions, are new/returning players. They would be lacking gold and materials the most. Or honing support.

You choose bracelet when everything else is doo doo

[dim pulsar]

ofc its not prio to take bracelet

[jagged zinc]

https://i.imgur.com/EVckHP9.png

[slate geyser]

Yeah basically that

i lost that picture. used to have it from somewhere

[lucid axle]

is it worth trying to learn hard brel?

[weary oyster]

skin only for one character?

[slate geyser]

Yes. Expedites karma progression and gives more gold than normal.

[lucid axle]

i just realized hard brel still gives more then behemoth but ive never learned the raid only solo

oh fuck

[slate geyser]

And hard/normal brel have few differences.

[lucid axle]

i mean

[candid lake]

brel v1?

[lucid axle]

echidna lol

[candid lake]

oh

[lucid axle]

me dumb

echidna hard

[slate geyser]

Yea I'd say it's worth to learn it.

And in most parties, you skip virtually all mechanics anyways. For the most part.

[rose jewel]

Unless

[void delta]

i want to cry it was so close how much gold is that worth?

[rose jewel]

checks deathboi's video

[dim pulsar]

if u equip it on 1 char, u cant use it on 2nd

[rose jewel]

Unless you just don't

[slate geyser]

lmaoooooo

[lavish mortar]

Idk 10-15k?

[dim pulsar]

free views sheesh

[slate geyser]

Yeah I almost got jailed in echidna on EU for my week 2 zero to hero account

[lucid axle]

can you let me know which mechs are manditory?

[slate geyser]

it was not looking good.

[dim pulsar]

gotta watch that mordum guide

[rose jewel]

Glad that bard left then

[dim pulsar]

am now making nae acc

[lime beacon]

i carried an echi with six mokokos who were doing Z on my valk with a 1710 bard this week

[rose jewel]

She saw it coming

[lime beacon]

i did 80% of the damage

[livid fossil]

He said he didn’t want another headache and went solo

[lime beacon]

2c6

[livid fossil]

[slate geyser]

x135 // x85 gate 1. x210 // x135 // x50 gate 2

[lucid axle]

rest of the mechs get skipped right?

my alts are 1670 rn

[dim pulsar]

no, they just not important

[rose jewel]

Can get skipped*

May**

Maybe they will***

[slate geyser]

skipped and also not really important

[dim pulsar]

still would watch full guide than going blind

[slate geyser]

if you know the things i just listed, you will be 100% fine.

[lime beacon]

gets charmed in g2 cause they didnt learn any normal patterns and kills the entire raid

[slate geyser]

in my case on EU, we did not skip x85 and i guess people forgot the mechanic existed

we wiped twice. i thought that wasn't even possible

[rose jewel]

Kills the raid? Any dumbo who gets charmed gets blasted

[slate geyser]

first impressions of EU.. not looking good guys

[rose jewel]

Revives are for them to use

[slate geyser]

maybe they should watch a certain guide....

[dim pulsar]

on prog it was the other way, charmed blasted us

esp if surge had his surge up

[candid lake]

fax

[rose jewel]

[candid lake]

i remember

when an arti used a nuke

got charmed right after

and it nuked us

LOL

[dim pulsar]

welp

[slate geyser]

a very specific, certain guide

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897803025379393556/1366984878322614364/Viberge-3x.gif

[dim pulsar]

i think i know some guy that makes guides

[rose jewel]

I wonder which one

[candid lake]

@dim pulsar imagine arti turret ulti

[dim pulsar]

i did it once

[candid lake]

and they get charmed and it starts blasting the team

[slate geyser]

memorizer69 of course

[rose jewel]

Is that the even hornier memo brother

[lime beacon]

WF aero activates identity right before jump rope and kills 4 people who fail it

[slate geyser]

probably

ATK works too trust

[rose jewel]

Atk is long gone

[dim pulsar]

last guide was like echidna no?

[slate geyser]

I liked his videos the most for guides. It's what partially got me into making them. But not the biggest reason.

[rose jewel]

Memo is probably one of the few ogs (for us the west) that still makes guides

[slate geyser]

erm no

Aegir I believe

[dim pulsar]

maybe, wasnt watching aegir since i quit that time

[livid fossil]

I think I was attacking everyone in hm encinada lol got charmed

[cobalt pilot]

does paradise have a min ilvl?

[lucid axle]

1585 i believe

[balmy plank]

1580

[cobalt pilot]

thx

[candid lake]

and u gotta do south kurzan

[cobalt pilot]

yeah its what im doing

[plain sorrel]

is LC sharpshooter good in T4 ? just pop up my old one and T skill seems to have very long animation lock.

[steel wadi]

Should I advance hone at T3 when orehas are the only bottleneck or just go to T4 to already start to gather T4 mats ... or even park at 1620 ?
They´re both the same investment price

I am kinda in a weird spot ... 1680 main and 4x 1620 alts that I like to play all ... feels a little bit wasted to convert all of these t3 mats but either gear must be enhanced to +14 or +12 with L10 advanced honing

[lavish mortar]

not really

[rose jewel]

If you have all the resources at hand just do it, if you don't just t4

And why are the alts not t4 already what

[steel wadi]

Just returned

[rose jewel]

Well, to t4 they go

Just beat North Kurzan on all of them and send them to t4

If you have a leaf you have free access to behes and sometimes echi

A lot more gold

[plain sorrel]

it seems the Sharpshooter T skill take 4-5 second to complete the animation

[steel wadi]

Forgot about that, sounds good

[jagged zinc]

Lc sharpshooter literally the only class I'd avoid making

[vast oriole]

lc sharpshooter is best class for yearning

[dim pulsar]

naaah not THAT bad

[dim pulsar]

afk farmer bis

[jagged zinc]

It is because at least other low DPS classes have a unique identity

lc sharpshooter is just ds but low dmg

[vast oriole]

but the cawk

[lavish mortar]

i got a cawk of my own

[dim pulsar]

my lc is 1540, did him like 2y ago

[plain sorrel]

lol, so sound like it would be better if i invest my time to other classes rather than LC SS then

[dim pulsar]

or just go DS

[plain sorrel]

about that long animation lo ck T skill , does deahstrike make it faster to land ?

[dim pulsar]

idk dont have him above 1580 to check

[plain sorrel]

man still have favorable memory with LC , it was chill with the bird doing a lot of damage

[dim pulsar]

but if u have char at 1640+ it would be meh to just trash him

[plain sorrel]

he is only at 1585 and i am testing his Ark Passive in trixion and tree guardian raid. I like him overall but only hung up for that T skill.

[dim pulsar]

with leap ark this might change later at 1640 and 1680

Instant Spell this might be making it a bit faster

[lavish mortar]

doesn't speed up the stupid ass drill

[dim pulsar]

Fallen Ruin "Long animation and lasts a while on the ground, ideally sent when the boss doesn’t move." thats what they say

[dim pulsar]

welp, its not like u use it every 2s so whatever

same with my arty skill, hella long cast 2s and i miss it

[plain sorrel]

Fallen Ruin seems like the Hyper awakening of DI SH

[dim pulsar]

welp they recommend using that one so whatever

[plain sorrel]

yeah that drill T skill of SS takes really long to finish

[dim pulsar]

did u check lostark nexus?

[plain sorrel]

reasing the nexus now, the T skill of sharpshooter both build is called Spiral Arrow. The one with long animation

[dim pulsar]

[plain sorrel]

lmao, what boss does not move, only Trixion and Paradise one

[dim pulsar]

welp u need to know patterns to know when to use it

it is what it is

[jagged zinc]

The literal endgame boss right now does not move

[dim pulsar]

^^

[jagged zinc]

And "when the boss doesn't move" means when the boss is staying still for a while

Not that they don't move permanently

[dim pulsar]

big huge cant be missed ass in middle of platform

[plain sorrel]

i mean compare to GS T skill and rose skills, the animation is like 2 seconds max

[jagged zinc]

Why would that be relevant

Sharpshooter is sharpshooter GS is gs

[dim pulsar]

ss is what it is, but gs isnt great too, both have weakpoints

another 30min in ass, but hey gotta get that skills

[plain sorrel]

oh i meant i like the class overall, but just for comparison , the other class T skill seems easier to execute.

[dim pulsar]

diff class, diff T skill, some faster, some longer

[jagged zinc]

The cast time on spiral is low, it just takes time to damage

[dim pulsar]

if u need FAST t skill then u dont play those classes

[timber elk]

whats an appropriate combat power for HM mordum?

[dim pulsar]

1700+

for comfy parties

[timber elk]

even supps?

[jagged zinc]

Yes

[dim pulsar]

supps can be bit lower

[rose jewel]

I see sups enter at 1200 or less

[dim pulsar]

1600+

[dim pulsar]

those are RATGEEEEE

[rose jewel]

Fukin useless rats

[dim pulsar]

they join like last 2 days since no more good supps

[jagged zinc]

The DPS check in mordum isn't exactly difficult but it's recommended for you to get combat score as high as possible for gatekeeping purposes

[dim pulsar]

could be done at 1500 but yeah, gatekeep

[rose jewel]

It's very hard if you go with handless ppl

[jagged zinc]

And you definitely do not want to be minimum DPS lobby in a hm mordum pug