lost-ark-help

[violet forge]

But the kill u quickly

[bold geyser]

?boundoreha

[buoyant dock]

Why can't I craft Oreha? I have all the materials!
You don't have the correct type of gold. To craft tradeable items (including Oreha), you need to pay the crafting cost with Unbound gold. The alternative way to craft Orehas with Bound gold is to unlock the farm at Stronghold level 10 and craft bound Orehas with the farm materials.
-# You can check what activities drop unbound gold with ?gold
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[violet forge]

So I'dk

[bold geyser]

never tried, sounds like its not meant to be done, but if you want to do a science for us knock yourself out

[lime beacon]

man whats the drop rate on the stronghold dispatch bloodclaw fragment ive been dispatching constantly for the past two weeks and it still hasnt dropped

its the last fragment i need 😭

[bold geyser]

took me 100 or so

[manic quarry]

No certified droprate. But it seems you are very unlucky with it

Had it dropped within the first week

[lucid axle]

had it drop on the first day

[livid fossil]

Mine dropped on the first 3?

[manic quarry]

Lies

I don't believe you lich

[next yacht]

Anyone know how much % a cooking recipe gives towards the adventure tome?

[manic quarry]

You shouldn't chase % of which part of the tome provides how many %. Finish what you can finish

[next yacht]

I'm at like 65% and not sure what else to push for to get the 70. I have 2 collectables I still have to finish. Basically all of the cooking needs to be done.

Open world boss and dungeons are done

[bold geyser]

usually several cooking recipes that are free

[next yacht]

Haven't done any of the quests I dont think

[bold geyser]

hidden stories, also free

[lavish mortar]

Just screen shot the tome

[manic quarry]

Are both dungeon modes finished too?

[lavish mortar]

We can prob tell you what's easiest

[manic quarry]

Oh it's that one

Clear off the unique monsters

And do the hidden quests

[lavish mortar]

Finish monsters and hidden stories

That should get you to 70%

[next yacht]

I need to find how to even start the hidden lol

[rose wren]

plenty of guides out there

[bold geyser]

you just find the notes or hidden things around the world

[rose wren]

some food takes hours to complete

[bold geyser]

if you are doing it blind it may take some time, if you follow a guide itll be seconds

[rose wren]

rapport easy too

[bold geyser]

south vern cooking is especially onerous, actually

skip those if you can for now 😄

[next yacht]

Kk

[livid fossil]

Maxroll

Or lost ark maps

[next yacht]

Yeah all I'm missing collectable wise is like...4 of the knights tokens and one of the legendary collectables

[broken hollow]

Growthquest told me to do the 1415 chaos gate, do people still do those?

[livid fossil]

No just skip

[rose wren]

thats extreme tough to find people for, hit skips, dont worry u lose nothing, it rotates forever

[rose wren]

ive farmed them, wasnt too bad tbh

[livid fossil]

Farming just takes time

For the collection

[rose wren]

nah, amount of monster

[livid fossil]

I use to farm a spot with bunch of boss monsters and i got every thing but what I need 3x over

[bold geyser]

MUST BE NICE

(it sounds nice)

[livid fossil]

Yeah but what good is it when what you want doesn’t drop

[rose wren]

sell and buy ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[plush brook]

hey is lvl 50 max lvl of character?

[shadow pasture]

lvl 70

is max

[plush brook]

does gaining lvls after 50 give enlightenment points?

Thanks

is the fastest way lvl up is just doing world quests toward main questline ark parts assembly?

[shadow pasture]

In stronghold you can also train for exp

gaining exp is a pretty long grind

[shadow pasture]

if you got time then yeah you could do the main quest for exp

[broken hollow]

its very satisfying to do the guardian every day and improving my time. feels like im making progress and getting better every day

[white slate]

Guys I just got back today. What happened to my engravings?

[mortal jetty]

holy crap does notexturestreaming cause hella lag now?

[livid fossil]

Ark passive

for 🔗

[plush brook]

are subquests (base yellow* ones) worth the hussle?

[shadow pasture]

the stronghold quest?

oh

like side quest

[plush brook]

yes yes

[shadow pasture]

they give some exp

if you got spare time sure

there isnt really a super duper quick way to gain exp, your best shot would actually be the event coming next reset

[plush brook]

okey thanks man

[wintry leaf]

That and dailies+cubes

Although might be best to save cube tickets

For Wednesday

[balmy plank]

Yes for awhile now. You have to sit on the login screen for a long time for everything to load

After that it should be okay

[mortal jetty]

its crazy how shit that trigger is now lol

i think it actually makes me lag all over the place

[rose wren]

never has been

[graceful stump]

do i still need alts to progress to end content?

[livid fossil]

Now

No

[graceful stump]

at last! thanks ❤️

[rose wren]

never

[mortal jetty]

is sorc still good?

[shadow pasture]

yeah its still good

just not top dog anymore

[mortal jetty]

whats top now? breaker?

[shadow pasture]

a little ayayaya

[mortal jetty]

lemme guess deathblade

[shadow pasture]

that goes by wildsoul

[mortal jetty]

that must be a meme lol

[shadow pasture]

nope its like

ranked at the tippy top besides like 1 gate in 1 raid

[rose wren]

metachasing is dumb

[mortal jetty]

ok i didnt ask you

but thanks for your opinion

[mortal jetty]

thanks, i'm gonna check it out

still just gonna play my sorc cuz its my highest

[shadow pasture]

yeah just play whatever

[mortal jetty]

basically what ima do

[livid fossil]

meta chasers

[eager hazel]

Do people enjoy brawl king or asura more? Not pushing anything crazy just yet

[shadow pasture]

Asura is more comfier imo

T4 Burger King is a lil janky

[balmy plank]

Asura. People kind of hate BK after 1680 and some ark passive changes

[pallid panther]

Ok db is top tier on act3 hm, but the balance of classes are based in act3 right ?

I dont remind what the bozo director said

[balmy plank]

They usually try to balance around the most recent raid yea

Our incoming balance patches this week were based off Mordum

[shadow pasture]

ferality nerf 🥀

[wintry leaf]

That nerf doesn’t seem too bad tbh.

[pallid panther]

3.5% soul eater 🤡

[lofty pulsar]

did they mention the item lvl range that you can activate the next progression event on?

[worldly slate]

how long does it take to obtain old treasure chest from foraging?

it is requirement of words of deliver quest

[livid fossil]

Should not take long

[shadow pasture]

its mostly rng

i think i spent like an hour give or take

[worldly slate]

used like 5k energy and still didnt get it

[shadow pasture]

when going for my relic charm

[wintry leaf]

I’ll take my 3.5% buff and wear it proudly. Then proceed to do not good dps anyways

[rose wren]

1580~

[broken hollow]

https://youtu.be/7F178wlirNI
in the solo vykas g2 guide from maxroll on the throne mechanic they die at the end. what did he do wrong here? kinda weird they include a video of them dying to show how to do the mechanic

[jagged zinc]

he clicked the end raid button

[bold geyser]

should be 1585

[broken hollow]

ohh i thought he got oneshot by the attack there

and he pressed the end raid cuz he did sth wrong

[shadow pasture]

nah he didnt do anything wrong

just used it as an example ig

[bold geyser]

just restarting to get more footage 😄

[young pond]

Did I understand it correctly that you can trade cube tickets for paradise keys in some kind of way?
Is it worth buying the cube chests from GrandPrix shop then?

[bold geyser]

was always worth buying those

[shadow pasture]

ideally you buy out the whole shop

[jagged zinc]

it is a mech where you need to be charmed

[lofty pulsar]

thank you! and the upper cap? @rose wren @bold geyser

[bold geyser]

1660.99 iirc

[lofty pulsar]

ah ok

[mortal jetty]

lol what... how did I go from trusted status to untrusted status???

had playtime rewards yesterday... but today not anymore?

[bold geyser]

cube tickets, legendary engravings, kurzan green+purple pots and the card selectors are all top tier

[rose wren]

wonky ass system, shit happens

[bold geyser]

but everything in the shop is good

[young pond]

Got that all, besides leg engravings as I got all the expensive ones finished

Will farm some more coins then tho, thank you

[bold geyser]

less urgent then 😄

but getting useful expensive ones is a good thing to prioritize for those who dont have them

card xp and honing scrolls are good, quality taps if you need them (having them for other chars is fine also), plus elixirs and trans if you're short

[mortal jetty]

has anyone tried playing this game on Steam Deck yet?

[hushed nova]

How to know if this tool good or trash .. what are the mods and the percentage of them .. help kindly if you know

[bold geyser]

pins

[limpid aurora]

it's a okay minigame tool

[prisma warren]

Hey, everyone. Sorry for the wall of text, I'm just trying to get another perspective on the game as it will be after the 23rd. I genuinely would appreciate some input from people who have pushed high-end content in this game:

1. If we're talking about high-end content, I know LA's group bosses are way more complex than even WoW's, but what about solo versions? Do they scratch the same itch - do I have to solve puzzles, react, and go back to farming to overcome obstacles, or is just mindless combat? I've played <W50 and <0.1% in WoW, and just looking for a challenge to solve.

2. I don't mind P2W as long as it's reasonable. Has the game shifted to more reasonable demands, specifically: I'm not trying to push crazy kill timers here, just want to get to experience the hardest content in a reasonable timeframe.

3. Is your rotation meaningfully changed by gear/gems/systems, or is it just a "number go up" type of thing?

I have more questions, but those are core and so important to me. Really appreciate any input.

[limpid aurora]

but for normal excavation it sucks

[hushed nova]

nothing about excavating ?

[bold geyser]

last page of the spreadsheet is excavation

[hushed nova]

oh yeah found it ty ♥

[bold geyser]

they're all pretty similar though the idea is the same throughout 😄

[bold geyser]

solo has a lot of the same mechanics as a normal raid but the ones that require coordination between people are obviously gutted

if you're looking for mythic challenge you're looking at trying to get week one clears of hard modes, but it'll take you a minute to get to that point

(and that is explicitly a team affair)

[prisma warren]

Is it reasonably achievable? I made a rule for myself to never spend dozens of thousands on games again, and kinda don't even wanna get involved otherwise.

[bold geyser]

thousands of...hours? or dollars

[mellow mauve]

Yes

[prisma warren]

Well, both 😄

[mellow mauve]

But you’ll probably not make it for echidna hm unless you get lucky

[bold geyser]

i'm not sure what the practical expectation of getting to mordum from scratch is right now, someone else can hopefully give you an idea

[livid fossil]

0- more ummm lol or is that with a pass

Mordum

[bold geyser]

yeah honestly on the 23rd you havea pass to 1585, and a boost to 1660+, you're most of the way there with that

[livid fossil]

Pass would get you closer

[bold geyser]

you still have to play, and learn, but by the time you get that far you've outgrown all the solo content and you're onto the group stuff

[uncut scarab]

Do them blind

[prisma warren]

Am I missing anything by skipping? I really am not interested in a generic campaign with no soul.

[bold geyser]

i always vote for doing solo raids blind 😄

[hushed nova]

boy

[livid fossil]

0- mordum with no money is not going to fun

[hushed nova]

so which is better ?

[mellow mauve]

Left

[livid fossil]

Looks
At pin

[prisma warren]

Yea, I will not spoil myself. Does the pass make any of the solo bosses way easier to the point where you're suddenly trampling them?

[livid fossil]

Solo is gutted down version of the original

[bold geyser]

campaign enjoyers would tell you the story is pretty good, i've long been a shift+g enjoyer and haven't really paid any attention.

you're missing a number of campagins through a number of continents, and a decent chunk of the early solo raid content, but none of that is meaningful if your goal is to get to endgame

[livid fossil]

Minus the group part

[mellow mauve]

It’ll make all the content below 1580 a cake walk cause of the power gain from being at 1585

[bold geyser]

it skips you to 1585, if you go back and fight baby bosses you'll trample them, but you're meant to have outgrown them by that point 😄

[prisma warren]

Yea, I did the campaign up to level 20, and I understand what it is, and uh...yea...uh...I'd rather not speak about it 😛

[bold geyser]

it's basically a "boost to 80 character boost"

[gray hearth]

The story can be viewed once, does not have to be on your main.

most can not stomach it multiple times

[bold geyser]

where you've skipped through a lot of the legwork and have gotten to the meat of the current content

[prisma warren]

Am I missing out on any endgame bosses like the big guys?

[mellow mauve]

Not really

[bold geyser]

story-wise, kinda

but you can always go through them on an alt if you find you care down the line

[uncut scarab]

He gon miss valtan

[gray hearth]

once you finish your gold raids there is nothing stopping you from doing the lower ones if you want to see them and the cutscenes at least

[bold geyser]

it really is getting a boost to dragonflight and then wondering if you missed out on progging shadowlands, you know?

like, yeah, you can go back to it, but it's not quite the same

[prisma warren]

Well, the point was to not mindlessly skip actually interesting bosses, and by "interesting", I mean Pinnacle bosses that really make you think.

[bold geyser]

proper raid bosses start at 1415, which is where the solo mode starts

[prisma warren]

So, you're saying that the past bosses from before the boost are all of the same quality?

[fiery perch]

Im planning to make a "story" character that i start at north vern then just play the story

[livid fossil]

Essentially yeah in solo

[fiery perch]

Even if you use the pass, you should run the lower raids so you can get the mechanics and skill rotations down

[bold geyser]

i missed a few of them myself when i was out of pocket, so i couldn't say, but they're all interesting in their own way

[livid fossil]

Did that done don’t want to do it again

[bold geyser]

i'm also a "run around and do cool shit" enjoyer, so i may not be a good representative of the sweatlord progger demographic 😄

[prisma warren]

Ye, ye, I know, but the angle I'm coming from is - I want to experience "good" content. I don't wanna do bosses where there are 3-4 mechanics, and I figure it out in 5 minutes.

In essence, by using the boost, am I skipping any "hardcore, long-progression-and-heavy-investment" bosses that are actually hard?

[prisma warren]

Yea, am looking for an actual highend sweatlord. Where do I find them?!

[bold geyser]

i know, sorry 😄

[fiery perch]

Well, thats dependant on you. everyone learns differently. Hell.. It took me 15 hours total to learn how to fucking COUNTER 🥲 but the next raid i beat vykas in like 3 hours. It depends on how well you handle certain mechs youll see later

[prisma warren]

Are there any leaderboards for guilds/bosses, etc.? Kinda trying to see where most top guilds and people are, so I don't make a mistake about the server I choose.

[fiery perch]

Ha, you wont be able to touch them on the LB

They are whales who spend THOUSANDS of $ on it

[bold geyser]

the only issue with that is that raid groups cap out at 8 people

[shadow pasture]

To even breath the same air as them you gotta spend like 60k

[bold geyser]

so you're fighting for a tight spot

[livid fossil]

Guilds are just guild’s

Nothing special

[prisma warren]

That's fine, I just wanna be on the right server/setup/environment if I decide to actually invest in the game.

[fiery perch]

https://tenor.com/view/look-what-yep-this-gif-13617583

[shadow pasture]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003564497979588619/1395217396645494790/image0.gif

[steady coral]

Someone knows if North Kurzan's powerpass who is obvious for now remains so forever or is it a temporary offer?

[livid fossil]

What you use it’s gone unless you buy one

[fiery perch]

https://tenor.com/view/kevin-hart-kevin-hart-damn-gif-22709278

[prisma warren]

Alright, found the leaderboards. It seems EU has a more hardcore crowd?

[steady coral]

ok so if I buy the 2.2 one after returning to its original price

[fiery perch]

Do NOT goto a different region

[livid fossil]

Not sure you lost me

[bold geyser]

afraid you're now outside of my wheelhouse i'm not much help to you there, i'm stricly a 3k-aotc-elite-go play other games kinda raider

i wish you luck though ❤️

[fiery perch]

You cannot use a vpn for this. Youll never be able to play if you do that

[livid fossil]

Could be lesson learned

Kinda thing

[prisma warren]

Fair. Appreciate the headsup, takes a lot of brain (sadly, very rare) to realize what position you're in, and where your knowledge ends. But therefore, your opinion is valuable. I don't mind, you don't have to be the Prime Alpha to be able to understand what's going on.

[fiery perch]

And if you use a vpn, youll most likely get bot flagged or RMT flagged

[bold geyser]

they seem earnest, i dont' think they need to learn any harsh lessons 🙂

[winged talon]

hey do u know whats the theme when in south kurzan

[prisma warren]

So, per the leaderboards, is my assessment that EU has the more hardcore crowd?

[livid fossil]

🤷

[fiery perch]

No, its just that EU has more players

[prisma warren]

Both at the highest levels, and inbetween?

[steady coral]

that is, if I buy Cristal now at 2.2k but I want to buy more, will it remain at 2.2k or will it go back to 6.6k?

[fiery perch]

but if you wanna goto a EU server while in the US you do you

[livid fossil]

Not sure I don’t buy crystal

[fiery perch]

What "pass" is your character? Like what region is your character in story wise

[bold geyser]

i was #1 for normal nathria parses though, so i'm kinda a big deal

[fiery perch]

No matter which one, the next tier of powerpass will be 1100 and 2200

$10 and $20

[prisma warren]

ZAMN!

[bold geyser]

barely touched mythic though, i know what i'm about 😄

[timber mauve]

EU just has more people. NA is split into two regions. It’ll be merged this October into one region tho.

[bold geyser]

(not herding 19 cats)

[prisma warren]

Right. I think my best course of action here is to ping someone from a sweaty guild, and ask for their resident "IQ above room temperature level" player, and just pay them for 30 mins of their time, to answer my high-end related questions

[shadow pasture]

Yeah just ask Saturn

[prisma warren]

But what about rotations @bold geyser - do the game's systems meaningfully augment them?

[bold geyser]

i doubt it's that deep

[fiery perch]

I love how he just ignored everything i said 🥲

[prisma warren]

Like, I wanna know if there's interesting things to discover about my rotation.

[shadow pasture]

Saturn will give you good one on one death blade tips

[steady coral]

I wanted to push more characters with the 2200 rc pass. I was wondering if it was a temporary discount or not?

[fiery perch]

Guess he doesnt listen to gray names

[bold geyser]

used to be some rotations taht were kinda hardlocked by stats, i'm not sure about nowadays since most of your power comes from the passive tree

[prisma warren]

I am perfectly fine with my setup. Sorry, I didn't mean to ignore you, lots of replies.

I can hit you with the real reason I don't "care", if you want?

[fiery perch]

Its not only the setup

[prisma warren]

IF, IF you promise me that you'll not say I'm flexxing.

[fiery perch]

If you choose EU you wont be able to do anything other than solo bc your ping will be fucked

Who tf cares about flexxing in lost ark

Its made TO flex

[prisma warren]

TRUEING

[bold geyser]

kinda true

[prisma warren]

The reason I don't care is - I have access to custom-made VMs and strategically-positioned VPNs that, even to deep fingerprinting technologies, look virtually indistinguishable from a normal computer.

My ping anywhere in the world is ~50ms.

[bold geyser]

thats why you can buy a $50k weapon 😄

[fiery perch]

This is what i mean. Since ive done up to Voldis i can get South kurzan for 1100 or north for 2200

[prisma warren]

So, really just not a concern, but I appreciate YOUR concern. It is a real concern, yea.

[fiery perch]

this is on a fresh new character

The discount is bc you have hit a certain point in the story

[bold geyser]

there are definitely some big names who hang around this server, if not in the help channel then in various class-specific channels

[prisma warren]

I heard that the P2W aspect has gotten way better than at start, and that there are plans to massively cut down on the BS part of it.

[fiery perch]

then do whatever lol

[bold geyser]

none of its necessary, it merely helps

same way you dont need an alt army to farm stuff

[fiery perch]

If you have the $ to do it, youre gonna be spending $50K+ to touch the BOTTOM of the top players most likely

[bold geyser]

if you do, you can help your main, but you dont need it

[fiery perch]

P2W? Who gives a fuck.. ITS PAY TO FASHION!

https://tenor.com/view/fashion-style-gif-26050576

[prisma warren]

LMAO

[steady coral]

@fiery perch ok now I understand how to do it thanks

[fiery perch]

Yep ❤️

[fiery perch]

Pick NAE Luterra and send me some fashion 😉 (for legal reasons im kidding!)

[prisma river]

why people say online solo raids are easy and i can't even get enough dmg for em by farrr x_x

[prisma warren]

Hell na, screw the legal reasons.

(please no ban, not yet)

[fiery perch]

Send your setup, gear engravings gems ark passives

https://tenor.com/view/how-i-met-your-mother-ilikeyou-great-like-love-gif-4317156

[bold geyser]

post your setup and people can try to help 🙂

[fiery perch]

also which boss?

[prisma river]

sec

[fiery perch]

but if youre gonna invest, you might wanna do one of the "new" servers in NAE since NAW is being merged in october. You could also wait til Valk comes out and see if shes your playstyle

[livid fossil]

I mad proud of myself I solo that turtle guardian raid took me 12 minutes but he died

[fiery perch]

You need to get better accs, you need at least 67 for full ark passive

[prisma river]

Boss: Vatlan, Ilvl: 1430

I play the spec as it should (green bar -> invis -> back red attacks)

[prisma warren]

Well, I have to look a bit at the leaderboards, ask some sweatlords. My goal is not RWF or anywhere near that. I just wanna solve a challenge in reasonable time. The equivalent of, say, WoW's W20-30 with 12-14h/week.

In that vein, suppose NA had A LOT of super high-end guilds, all <W10 guilds, yea? Well, that's useless to me, because I'd rather go to EU which supposedly has all the W20-40 guilds, etc.

[fiery perch]

your engraviungs are good, or at least with the 2 you can use

[fiery perch]

Real winning fuckits?

[manic quarry]

[prisma river]

67?

[prisma warren]

Yes, exactly.

[fiery perch]

Yea, hes just a straight up bitch

[prisma warren]

(no idea)

[fiery perch]

67 is to get +9 ark passives and +10 for neck

[manic quarry]

Let me explain it for him. Having an accessory with at least 67 item quality yields the most enlightenment points upon refinery

[fiery perch]

+9*4+10

[bold geyser]

(race for world first)

[fiery perch]

Welllll TECHNICALLY you CANT RWT

Itd be first for EU, Na, china, Or KR

[prisma river]

I got the 67 points+ on all of them, even 90+ some, I refined most of em but its a struggle getting enough points

[fiery perch]

So you can pick any of it but maybe not kr or china lol

[prisma river]

Will that boost my dmg by a lot?

[prisma warren]

Oh, shit, do patches drop like multiple days apart for each region?

[prisma river]

thanks btw ^^

[manic quarry]

It does

[fiery perch]

Ahh, yea, early acc dismantles are kind of a bitch

[prisma river]

fr

I get barely any points

[manic quarry]

With the enlightenment points you'd have as many as you can place into your nodes

[bold geyser]

also, dont know a thing about reaper, but how you have your skills and runes set up is important

[fiery perch]

What + are your armor and weapon?

[prisma river]

• what?

like weappon power?

[fiery perch]

Also, you should be able to get a free set of lv 5 gems

[bold geyser]

thats gonna be...all +11?

[fiery perch]

Uh, your armor is it +5 +10 +15?

and weapon

[manic quarry]

Keep going....

[prisma river]

Evo points u mean?

[fiery perch]

and internet history

No giomme a sec

[prisma river]

sorry x_x

[manic quarry]

This guy

[prisma river]

internet history?! 😭

[fiery perch]

Like this

IGNORE THE 67 😭

[bold geyser]

why's your weapon 67?

[fiery perch]

I TRIED!

[shadow pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-brain-rot-brainrot-math-67-mango-mustard-67-mango-gif-7709692426775559134

[fiery perch]

😭 I REALLY TRIED

[bold geyser]

lmao

[fiery perch]

IK spent like 10k gold 😭

[bold geyser]

please dont spend gold on taps

[fiery perch]

everything is 90+ aside from a 83 and an 88

[fiery perch]

BUT THE GAMBA!

[manic quarry]

Okay but please don't give such bad suggestions. We're not memeing in here

[prisma river]

anything wrong w my weapon or am i kay?

[fiery perch]

Whos giving bad suggestions?

[fiery perch]

Shouldnt be

[manic quarry]

Your weapon quality would need work. But wait for the processed chaos stones to come back

[fiery perch]

I use SE so ican dish out quite a bit of damage quickly and idk how reaper is supposed to play sadly

[prisma river]

I do 0 dmg x_x

[bold geyser]

still wanna hear about rotation and skill + gem + rune setups

thats an important thing to leave out

[fiery perch]

Gate 1 or 2?

[manic quarry]

But you shouldn't really care about gear and weapon quality at the moment unless you're really lacking

[prisma river]

Its optomized decently ^^ from a guide

[fiery perch]

^^ only quality you need is at least 67 on accessories

[prisma river]

wealth runes

[bold geyser]

hands angle then

[manic quarry]

Yes, this is what I want you to say

[shadow pasture]

You can check their set up on uwuowo

[fiery perch]

And i said that...

[manic quarry]

You just said it now

[bold geyser]

always forget that

[fiery perch]

I posted the screenshot to explain what i meant by +

[prisma river]

-__-

[fiery perch]

#lost-ark-help message

[bold geyser]

merely a diagnosis, not an attack 😄

[fiery perch]

Literally said it earlier >.>

[bold geyser]

i haven't any hands either i'm not an arpg kinda guy

[prisma river]

Can i send video's here someway?

[shadow pasture]

I mean you can always send a clip

So we can see how you’re doing

[fiery perch]

Then you said this to explain better what i meant...

[prisma river]

I have this nvvidia thing to let me record but, last time I did it in a mythic wow raid it was hella big file

[fiery perch]

i mean we could go into a vc and watch

[prisma river]

hmmm

[prisma warren]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/1m4hf52/to_ags_and_players/ - reading this thread, and I assume it's because people who clearly have no idea what to do and are undergeared are mad people who've done the content 500 times already and just wanna go-go-pew-pew, are taking actually qualified people instead of them.

...or do I really need to pray someone from the higher levels takes me to content?

[prisma river]

let me try a video first i'm shy

brb 20 min

[fiery perch]

Lol, dont have to actually talk but i gotchu

https://tenor.com/view/sussa-gif-5432297967573209335

[manic quarry]

This is just a rant

You can freely ignore it as you want to

[fiery perch]

I started lost ark BC of how precise it can get lol

If you mess up once with even a small mistake.. Youre gonna get flamed lol

No matter how experienced you are or how long youve been playing. No one is exluded from it 🥲

[manic quarry]

Context, the majority of group lobbies you see are made of people who are familiar with the raids

You'd have to really look for lobbies

[prisma warren]

Yes, it's what I assumed. So, it makes sense that you'd just want to pew-pew and get out fast.

[manic quarry]

That accept

New learners

[bold geyser]

there's fewer "a single person can wipe the raid" mechs in lost ark vs wow, but there's comparably more "if you screw this up you'll straight up die" mechs

[prisma warren]

Yea, since I'm one as well, I'll just make groups myself stating it's a "learner group".

[fiery perch]

But if you join a decent guild, theyll be down to teach you and when you start getting it, run with them

[manic quarry]

Yes, however, to some extent the expectations that people have are sometimes unnecessary

[prisma warren]

Tbh, I won't. Not initially. Assuming I stick around to playing. I just wanna experience the content on my own, but @bold geyser did say something important. That older raids are like WoW's - irrelevant from the perspective of progression and how hard they are.

[manic quarry]

But at the bottomline if you were to join any non-learners lobby, you are held to everyone else's expectations that you know it as much as they do

[prisma warren]

Makes perfect sense and absolutely fair. I found that people that make these rants (in WoW) are ALWAYS mad they didn't get to trick the system.

"Why do people that have done the content 50000 times already not wanna waste time because of me?!"

[manic quarry]

Glad you understand

[rapid fiber]

the leaderboards is pretty even

[manic quarry]

ISHYYY

[rapid fiber]

https://uwuowo.mathi.moe/leaderboards#boss=Mordum%2C+the+Abyssal+Punisher&difficulty=Hard&patch=current

[manic quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/flower-cat-dance-orange-vibe-gif-24887596

[fiery perch]

https://discord.com/channels/212635560596996097/1396625834412085308

[prisma warren]

@fiery perch You better mute me RIGHT NOW

Na, just kidding. I won't disturb.

[bold geyser]

thats why the bootcamp events are sick because it gives vets an incentive to bring lowbies 😄

[manic quarry]

Om

[fiery perch]

Lol nah come in and watch it

[rapid fiber]

watch what

[fiery perch]

Waiting for Yxna to come stream it

[prisma warren]

Tbh, I'll avoid even these. I just wanna experience the game on my own, and learn the fights, etc. Robbing myself of a (maybe) learning experience is so bad, 'cause you only get to experience it once.

[fiery perch]

probably should have made it 8 instea dlol

[manic quarry]

Stream what

Oh the raid?

[rapid fiber]

game really isn't solo though

can only get you to 1660 next patch

[fiery perch]

Most of the early raids you can solo. Granted most of the heavy hitting mechs probably got nerfed in solo

[bold geyser]

eventually you run out of solo raids, so you're learning from videos or the like, or you're progging it in a learning group

[rapid fiber]

the game also just feels worse as supports are a huge factor in this game

[bold geyser]

(or ratting in a pug)

[prisma warren]

Na, I get that. I understand that solo raids are waaaaaaaaaaaaay easier than group content, but it'll at least serve as a good introduction to the systems, rotations, visuals, etc.

[manic quarry]

Wdym. Gate 3 Akkan still hurts in solo mode on ilvl

[prisma warren]

Yea, as with WoW, I'd have to get to the "current highest level" before a patch hits, and then progress those fights like everyone else.

[fiery perch]

Nah he was easy. Just had to learn how to fucking spin statues since for some reason EVERY SIMPLE MECH I CANT DO 😭

[prisma warren]

Virtually making all older content irrelevant in terms of progress-value.

[manic quarry]

Skill issue

[fiery perch]

Nah brain issue

[bold geyser]

there was a guy in here a day or two ago, he and his friends all started recently and are doing all raids on ilvl starting from scratch

[prisma warren]

Oh, that's awesome. I'm playing with a friend, but yea, getting to 8 people is a big stretch.

[bold geyser]

indeed

[fiery perch]

I can make it 3 😉 just need 5 more

[bold geyser]

but if you can, and you're all about it, that's certainly the way to go as far as "experiencing all the content"

[prisma warren]

Yea, just not a possibility. But that'd be amazing. I guess I'll just solo all "old" content, and then be prepared for next patch's raid/whatever, where I can actually progress.

To be fair, it's only progress I enjoy. Never liked farm.

[bold geyser]

saaaaame

[prisma river]

no access to it

[fiery perch]

Thats basically what i did aside from the fact i had a character that had south vern pass but didnt touch it for like 2 or 3 years

[bold geyser]

kinda unavoidable in lost ark tho

the prog from the beginning of a raid to the end is much shorter than in wow

[fiery perch]

hes about to start streaming valtan

[prisma warren]

In terms of the total hours of an average high-end guild, or the RWF?

[bold geyser]

both?

[prisma warren]

New raid comes out. How many hours are you expected to spend on it, all things considered?

Average, of course.

[bold geyser]

like, there's a bunch of guilds that do week-one hardmodes

but theres a ton of people who never get there 😄

[prisma warren]

That screams to me of a problem that's something else other than skill.

Time, money, interest? A combination?

[bold geyser]

[prisma river]

i'm new to the game kay not very good :3

[bold geyser]

there's much less pugging in this than in wow

so i dont have a lot of repeated exposure to what other people are up to

[prisma river]

i also don't know the mechanics but, just looking if my dmg is too low

I think it is

[fiery perch]

Are you breaking his armor?

[prisma river]

trying

[rose wren]

learn ur weak point rotation and stagger

[fiery perch]

You gotta make sure to use your weakpoint skills while hes staggered from the pillars and throw a destruction bomb

[prisma warren]

No idea about LA, 'cause I haven't played it, but the skill ceilling in WoW is hit very fast. That is to say, if you just have a keyboard, and remember you also have eyes (what a concept!), you can safely play at some of the highest levels, what seems to be the equivalent of LA's first-week HM bosses.

In essence, this turns WoW, especially M+, into a time-sink and a matter of who you know/who knows you, because most people that do the bare minimum are on the same skill level.

[fiery perch]

Yea hes doing alot of dmg, he just needs to break his armor

[rapid fiber]

For us we already know what the boss is going to do and it's nerfed on release for us

Korea is the mother server

[fiery perch]

when he does the pinwheel attack dont let him hit you and get out of it. Make sure to grab a blue orb so you can survive the 2nd wipe attack

[prisma warren]

Oh, that further cements the argument, then. Big sad

[rapid fiber]

It takes them between 1-7 days to clear a raid and thaemine took 2 weeks

The new upcoming raid probably gonna take like 2-3 weeks for both completion

[prisma warren]

Damn, a week difference? That long? So, there's never any world in which you can blindly progress bosses, unless you're in Korea?

[bold geyser]

that's true, NA/EU is never blind-progging unless they willfully dont look anything up

[prisma warren]

That's messed up.

[fiery perch]

You could definitely find a group of players who wanna go in raw without ANY info other than the bosses name

[prisma warren]

Na, that never works, you know it.

[bold geyser]

time to wage war on korea

[prisma warren]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[fiery perch]

NO!! NOT MY MANHWA MAKERS!

[prisma warren]

MODS MODS MODS

[fiery perch]

LEAVE THEM ALONE!

[rose wren]

not true, there were

[rapid fiber]

There's a lot of people in here that took over a month to clear thaemine even though we knew everything he could and would do

[prisma warren]

(I just did a number called "The Twitter Crowd", where I explicitly went overboard and misunderstood what Soc said)

[rapid fiber]

I'm expecting the next raid in Korea to be like that too

[prisma river]

oopsie

[bold geyser]

the joke is that this has already been done and it didn't go well

[shadow pasture]

is your rotation correct?

[prisma river]

Ya i think it is +-

[shadow pasture]

i see you just using reds one after another

without building meter

[fiery perch]

Ik, but at least let me be there next time O.O

[prisma river]

well

I'm not sure if like,

[prisma warren]

I understand, but usually, that's just because those people don't do the bare minimum (like, say, there's no excuse for getting hit by 90% of mechanics). I have no idea about LA, but it can't be that different from other games I've played.

[fiery perch]

If it was Soul eater rot id be able to tell lol

[prisma river]

By the time I build the green meter i could have used other reds no?

[fiery perch]

?nexus

sad

[rose wren]

#1113635777004445768 has link

[rapid fiber]

Pretty sure it was because of how annoying and bard g4 was

[bold geyser]

we're a secondary market to them, i'm not sure there's any fixing that

[prisma river]

oh

[fiery perch]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EsAOOw-QXbq5NiPxeAISsII3zE6ZSgyq1WIVgZ8-q7U/edit?usp=sharing This can help a bit.

[prisma river]

thx

[shadow pasture]

also change your pet

your on crit rn and lunar is mostly spec i believe

[prisma warren]

Yea, I am restraining myself from passing ANY judgement, but usually, it's just a matter of people not getting out of fire (lack of respect for others' time, is what I call it). There are very, very rare encounters in games that are GENUINELY hard on both an individual and a group level.

[raw thorn]

holy i just realized my db has been running with no pet

[prisma river]

Do u think i could do it / have enough dmg for the boss if i do the correct rotation?

[shadow pasture]

100%

[fiery perch]

https://tenor.com/view/get-fucked-gf-nats-what-i-reckon-clap-clapping-gif-17482248

[bold geyser]

also there are a TON of basic mechs that just isnt' a thing in wow

[shadow pasture]

most problems people have when it comes to dps is just not knowing their rotation

[raw thorn]

solo alt so it don’t matter too much

[bold geyser]

like your performance (and being alivedness) will be severely damaged by getting hit by every little swing the boss does

[fiery perch]

Yea youre doing good damage, just gotta learn rotaions and which skills are best for certain things, like to break his armor you throw a destruction bomb then use your weakp point skills

[prisma warren]

Right, but most games just come down to "READ, BRO, READ!" or "OPEN YOUR EYES!"

[bold geyser]

there aren't traditional tanks, mechanics are everyone's problem

[fiery perch]

I got muted in a server bc i posted the gif....

😭

[prisma warren]

They're not based at all 😭

[bold geyser]

again, hands angle 🙂

[prisma warren]

Just hop onto the alt account, no?

[prisma river]

I only got 2 pets tho

[shadow pasture]

you might have to back out

like leave the raid to change pet

[bold geyser]

you can change the bonus a pet provides, the actual pet itself doesn't matter

[mellow mauve]

Raid stop button

Don’t song out

[shadow pasture]

you see the dog

on the map

go up to that

[rose wren]

mute

[prisma warren]

I think WoW only really had like ~10 bosses that felt like you had no hope, and were genuinely hard, but those bosses usually are very loved. The best one for me (unfortunately didn't progress it at a high level) was Halondrus.

Haldonrus at the RWF level just seemed nuclear.

[rose wren]

this game u dont eat every hit unlike wow

[prisma river]

max hp good?

[shadow pasture]

yer

[shadow pasture]

your rotation is basically build meter

press Identity and use a red

[bold geyser]

that's clearly a cat

[shadow pasture]

then repeat

[alpine trout]

https://tenor.com/view/ha-ha-nelson-the-simpsons-gif-6975220780730021991

[bold geyser]

progging mythic sounds super fun, but unless everyone is on the same page its just not worth

[prisma warren]

Yea, 100%. I wanted to kms in a lower guild. I disbanded my ~W30 guild after we finished the tier, and that was that for me in WoW. Forever. It's just not worth it.

[shadow pasture]

@prisma river make sure to always spam that ability you have binded on Z

that skill resets your cds

[prisma warren]

But the reason it's not worth it is, again, the talk from above: it's so easy to do well in WoW, and all you're doing in lower guilds is waiting for people who have no respect for others' time.

It's just miserable.

[bold geyser]

thats why i stick to a 4-hour purple-parsing aotc guild, go in, get loot, go home 😄

[rapid fiber]

Search up G4 Thaemine powdersnow yt

[prisma warren]

Honestly, the best way to play WoW. Wish I could just chill a bit and not want to go so hard.

[rapid fiber]

That raid on release is still the hardest raid we've had

Other one is maybe Korean g56 abrulshuld

[prisma warren]

Is every mechanic there something that'll lead to death, or can you afford to get hit once or twice?

[rapid fiber]

On ilvl

[prisma warren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lutopRZoPo this looks crazy, but ONLY if those things kill you.

[rapid fiber]

60% of patterns could pretty much 1 hit you

[bold geyser]

"mechanics" will likely kill you

normal patterns are dangerous but usually not very lethal

[rapid fiber]

Mechanics if screwed up by even 1 person would result in a wipe

Certain patterns will make you take 50-100% more dmg for the rest of the fight

[prisma warren]

That looks really good, then. If those things actually kill you, and it results in a wipe (unsure if this is good design, btw...), then yea, this is like 5x harder than even any of the hardest bosses in WoW.

[rapid fiber]

Failing to use any kind of superarmor lead to instant death due to gravity

[prisma warren]

At least on the level of personal responsibility.

[bold geyser]

indeed 😄

[rose wren]

have u seen FF raids?

[prisma warren]

No, I'm not a file extension.

Sorry, I have to.

[rapid fiber]

Ff has a higher ceiling

But average ff might be the most sleeper shit

[bold geyser]

more similar to FF14 in that way, yeah

[prisma warren]

I heard that from my WoW friends, yes, but I just...I can't, man. LA has really good OVERALL graphics, else I wouldn't be able to put up with this anime-ahh-type shiii 😭

[rapid fiber]

La combat probably the best combat I have ever seen

[prisma warren]

FF14 goes so hard on the moe shit.

[rapid fiber]

Nothing comes close

It's insane

[prisma warren]

Well, that fight looks good. I'm not gonna further spoil myself, but now I'm sad I didn't get to prog what seem to be nice fights.

[rose wren]

this game graphic old...

[prisma warren]

However, no way I would've put up with the BS that was LA on release: alts, extreme P2W, etc.

[mellow mauve]

P2w hasn’t changed

[prisma warren]

Yes, but its stylization looks decent. Makes up for a lot.

[rapid fiber]

The extreme version of that raid I just told you about comes out in about 4 months or so

[mellow mauve]

[rapid fiber]

I think you can get to 1700 by then

[mellow mauve]

Isn’t hm 1710?

1720*

[rapid fiber]

Erm

[prisma warren]

Well, but above, we spoke about how you can reasonably do these bosses without going crazy into P2W?

[rapid fiber]

What is nm then lmao

[prisma warren]

Like, yea, you won't do them first week, but what about 3-4 weeks in?

[rapid fiber]

No p2w is needed to do bosses in this game

[mellow mauve]

1680/1690?

[rapid fiber]

I know plenty of players who don't p2w or bus that are crazy at the game

[prisma warren]

But what is the timeframe we're talking about? 'Cause I don't wanna spend 6 months just farming for materials.

[rose wren]

no1 wins anything, everything is beatable at the requre ilvls

[rapid fiber]

And up to date

[mellow mauve]

That’s lost ark in a nutshell

[rapid fiber]

You will probably have the average end game gear

Not many people have gems above lvl 7/8 and relic books

[prisma warren]

Right. Suppose I have some brain, and I usually remember that my monitor is working. I'm down to farm, down to pay a bit, and will learn fast. What's my timeline looking at here?

[rose wren]

al mmorpg r long term farming

[prisma warren]

That's not true, if your goal is to beat the big, bad boss. WoW, at the higher levels, has a timespan of 4-8 weeks.

[prisma river]

kay thxx

[rapid fiber]

Heavily depends on luck too but I'd say this month you could get to 1610-1620 and next month 1685/1690

[turbid reef]

you can reach endgame gear 1680 maximum 1 month

[rapid fiber]

This game is pretty much on farm a lot

[turbid reef]

with upcoming event

[prisma river]

so should i just impprove on my rotation and learn the mechanics a biit more? I feel like i'm not doingg a ton of dmg :3

[sharp field]

events help a lot

[prisma river]

mostly compared to the videos i've seenn of 'new player tries solo raids'

[prisma warren]

Got it. so, around 2 months to reach the max AND progress the bosses?

[mellow mauve]

Yes but you might be bottle neck by horizontal

[prisma river]

wats that

the accesories?

[mellow mauve]

Runes and skill points

[shadow pasture]

Idk if lunar has any spec breakpoints

[broken hollow]

arkesia tour helps a lot for that

[shadow pasture]

But hunger should feel a lil better for where you’re at

[turbid reef]

to reach max(im talking about the latest raid nm mod which is 1680) takes 1 month maximum

if you do chaos gates dailies

[mellow mauve]

He’s probably missing a purple wealth or two

[prisma river]

this looks pretty good

[prisma warren]

Right. What's my timeline if I'm down to spend a few grand?

Actually, a better question - do I skip meaningful, interesting content (highend bosses) by spending money?

[turbid reef]

few grand

[bold geyser]

strictly brute forcing rng progression with money

[turbid reef]

means a lot

[prisma warren]

Because if that's the case, then I'd legit just go with a lower guild just to experience it.

[turbid reef]

you mean thousands?

[rapid fiber]

A few grand..?

[bold geyser]

can't beat lockouts with swiping

[rapid fiber]

You could probably hit 1720 quite easily?

In 2 months

[turbid reef]

not in 2 months

[prisma warren]

Yea, that's not what I'm looking for. Legit will willingly NOT spend if that's what it gets me.

[turbid reef]

with few grands

[rapid fiber]

Yes in 2 months

[bold geyser]

figured, just sayin 😄

[turbid reef]

using some not really legal ways xd

he can reach that

in few hours

[rapid fiber]

You underestimate how much a few grand is

Also yeh the unethical way if spending gold

[prisma warren]

Na, that's just stupid. You're robbing yourself of an experience. People who do that need Jesus.

[rapid fiber]

Will probably get you to endgame

[prisma warren]

Like, LEGIT stupid.

[turbid reef]

bro with few grand

if you have aegir gear

from 1660 to 1700

you can reach in maximum 1 hour

[prisma warren]

That's fucked up.

[turbid reef]

and thats 1 hour

[mellow mauve]

You don’t even need a grand for that

[turbid reef]

because you need to sit and hone

[bold geyser]

if you powerpass to 1585, you need to hit 1620 from honing (swipable) then you get gear and hone from there to get to ~1660ish (swipable) and you're gatekept on going too much higher by a weekly lockout of aegir armor upgrades

[turbid reef]

yeah i said grand because he said grand

[bold geyser]

if you start lower than that, you're gatekept in the same way at ~1460 and ~1500, but for shorter amounts of time

[rapid fiber]

With just like $300 in the cash shop you wouldn't need to worry about anything other than raw gold for honing

[prisma warren]

Uhm, do bosses generally get nerfed week-to-week, as they do in WoW? So, would you say that for week-one HM kills, that gear is ACTUALLY required?

[turbid reef]

nope

[mellow mauve]

No

[prisma warren]

That's amazing, then.

[turbid reef]

they get nerfed after long time

when new raids comes out

[mellow mauve]

We get w/e nerfed kr got before its shipped to us

[turbid reef]

but even thats really rare

[rapid fiber]

On release they get nerfed biweekly

[prisma warren]

It means that I can experience the actual intended experience even after a few weeks.

[mellow mauve]

That’s Frontier

[rapid fiber]

But they're adding a challenge mode to raids soon

[turbid reef]

yeah

[mellow mauve]

Nm is shipped nerfed

[turbid reef]

lots of raids already got nerfed a lot

[prisma warren]

me rn

[turbid reef]

so you're not gonna get the first week experience

but it is still hard if you do it ilevel

especially thaemine

[rapid fiber]

Thaemine is nerfed out of this world lmao

[turbid reef]

it is but

idk if you tried doing it ilevel

[prisma warren]

Ok, I have a pretty good plan, then:

1. Join a lower guild that still goes "uh, hard, I guess".
2. Decide later if it's worth going for turbo OMEGA first week kills.

That's it. That's the plan.

[turbid reef]

it still hits like a truck

[cunning haven]

Hello can locked gems be rerolled?

[rapid fiber]

Just don't get hit

[bold geyser]

frontier has raids getting modestly easier every few weeks like what happens in wow this exp, with people getting stacking, very minor buffs every week

but major changes dont happen for a long time

[mellow mauve]

Yes?

[turbid reef]

thats not the case for someone new bro

you already played that 1000 times

for someone new its gonna be something crazy

[rose wren]

the icon lock? no

[rapid fiber]

Thaemine solo does little to no damage unless you are tanking reds

[turbid reef]

of course solo do no damage bro

[cunning haven]

Whaa

[rapid fiber]

He will have procyons blessing and mokoko buff

[turbid reef]

im talking about hard mod

[mellow mauve]

I thought they could with the setting?

Guess I thought wrong

[rapid fiber]

No one does that anymore lmao

[rose wren]

o probably, forgot that exist

[turbid reef]

who cares about solo mod

[prisma warren]

I completely reject that. Even in new content, there's very rarely any reason to get hit by 80% of the things. Like...it's a red circle...what you think it's gonna do? I find that lack of performance in games like WoW (again, haven't play LA) is just 'cause you don't care. In most cases.

[rapid fiber]

Thaemine is too old

[cunning haven]

Sorry I meant if i lock my gem from being auto fused, can i still reroll it?

[rapid fiber]

How can he find the people to do it

[turbid reef]

its not the case in thaemine

you do not see attacks that oneshots you

[mellow mauve]

I’m not able to check so I don’t really know currently

[prisma warren]

"Frontier" and "Challenge"? Two different modes for the game?

[turbid reef]

there are some lobbies in eu

idk about na

[mellow mauve]

Challenge is for China

[turbid reef]

but i see thaemine lobbies almost every day

[mellow mauve]

It’s their region specific fix to difficulty

[prisma warren]

Oh, ok. Sorry, I thought we were talking about telegraphed attacks.

[turbid reef]

ah no

[rapid fiber]

Frontier is just a system that will nerf the boss every 2 weeks on release up to 4 times

[prisma warren]

Do you care to explain why other regions don't have it?

care enough*

[rose wren]

china always been weird and whatever

[rapid fiber]

Challenge mode is something they're going to add that will have no nerfs for the hardcore

[turbid reef]

there are one mechanic that makes your screen completely black and unless you learn that completely from guide you get oneshotted by attack no matter what your gear

[bold geyser]

china's weird in wow too 😛

[rapid fiber]

? Wtf is this

[turbid reef]

pacman

[prisma warren]

Yea, I didn't wanna make any assumptions, but I have an...idea. A few, actually 😛

[mellow mauve]

That’s what China decided to do to have harder content to clear while not just giga nerfing hm

[turbid reef]

you really did thaemine bro?

[rapid fiber]

That's all red patterns

[mellow mauve]

Frontier is our version of making hm more accessible to players

[turbid reef]

first time im seeing someone says thaemine is easy at ilevel

[prisma warren]

I mean, that's a good system. Let the tryhards tryhard, and the others eventually get there. Nobody gets hurt, everyone wins.

[bold geyser]

talking about the 100% meter mech?

[turbid reef]

name is pacman

[rapid fiber]

Because it was after you learnt the normal patterns?

[thorny prairie]

Uh someone else gets it

👍

[turbid reef]

yeah from that im %100 sure you never did thaemine in release

[thorny prairie]

Always good to see fellow people who think that is a good idea

[rapid fiber]

?

I cleared thae g3 in 2d and thae G4 middle of week 2

[turbid reef]

so you have the eclipse?

[sharp field]

is it possible to solo thae with bard

[rapid fiber]

Yes?

Who doesn't

[mellow mauve]

Yes

[rapid fiber]

That title is fraudulent

[turbid reef]

its not

[rapid fiber]

95% of people with that title did it when they were 1680

[turbid reef]

you either has premade lobbies with really good people who knows how to play

or you are oovergeared as fuck

[mellow mauve]

It’ll be a little slow clearing till you start getting your trans

[turbid reef]

almost no one gets the eclipse at ilevel

[rapid fiber]

Tons of people did

???

We even bussed it on ilvl

[turbid reef]

yeah that means you are the first example

[prisma warren]

Yea, I mean, you gotta really be an idiot to disagree. I played turbo tryhard-actual-high-end all my life, and it's so immature to do any of that crab bucket shit. There are so, so, so many ways to keep some level of prestige, while allowing those that want to try, to try without needing to sacrifice their firstborn. Imho, it's just immature to think otherwise.

Then there's also the reality WoW is facing - that many people still don't wanna accept - it's not prestigious anymore, so, who cares? The argument of "participation rewards" doesn't work either. Those people are still putting in a lot of effort. But I do agree that, at least for the highest of the highest of the highest, there should be better rewards.

[rose wren]

title doesnt prove u r the best/etc

[mellow mauve]

Unless it’s hell Brel title

[rapid fiber]

Hellshaza...

[turbid reef]

sometimes it is

[rapid fiber]

[prisma warren]

Well, I have high hopes for my journey in LA. Thank you all for your input so far. Me and my friend will start playing during the event 👍

[turbid reef]

if its hellmod deathless brelshaza

[mellow mauve]

Phantom monarch when

[turbid reef]

i respect them

[rapid fiber]

Bro every title in this game is hot shit other than hellshaza deathless and thaemine top 10

[thorny prairie]

wasn't hellshaza bugged out a few months ago which made it a lot easier?

[rapid fiber]

[thorny prairie]

So yeah.

[prisma warren]

I'll see y'all then, probably from another account.

https://tenor.com/view/gayy-gay-mlm-lgbt-gay-sex-gif-25070416

[turbid reef]

bro

wtf is this

[rapid fiber]

A lot easier as in if you knew the raid then yes lmak

It was that the dps check was lower

[mellow mauve]

You would still have needed to be able to clear it without dying

[rapid fiber]

Nothing else changed

[thorny prairie]

Yeh I mean the dps check

[turbid reef]

still hard af

[rapid fiber]

Then they patched her hp back to normal

[thorny prairie]

I mean of course, but requiring less dps still makes it a bit easier

[turbid reef]

bit easier yes

[thorny prairie]

They fixed it though

[turbid reef]

easy no

[rapid fiber]

I don't even remember hm meteor drops

[prisma river]

i need to learn to dodge stuff better 😭

[turbid reef]

its still deathless hellshaza

[prisma river]

thx for watching all

[shadow pasture]

Yeah you gotta brush up on some of the patterns

Maybe watch a deathboi guide

For better understanding

[prisma river]

ya haven't watched any guides for now, I thought maybe I could do it withouut but its a bit rough

[thorny prairie]

Yeh deathboi makes good guides, we had an extensive talk about what he can do

few months ago

[shadow pasture]

And for once he’s caught up with making a guide for every raid

As opposed to basically being a year behind

[livid fossil]

lol

solo agier guide waiting on

[shadow pasture]

No hate to deathboi tho

He’s basically the only dude left making guides besides like

Memorizer

[broken hollow]

i did Valtan recently on my slayer and i feel like i did a lot more damage than you, my big skills did above a million dmg so not sure if your dmg is kinda low or sth

[rose wren]

deathboi speak like broken english iirc

[shadow pasture]

Same for memorizer

[livid fossil]

👆

[bold geyser]

speaks totally normal english >_>

[livid fossil]

[bold geyser]

cadence sounds a little funny, just because he's explaining everything to us toddlers 😄

[slate geyser]

Lol I wish I could create something prior to it coming out, or right after it comes out. But just like everyone else in the west, I have to prog it 1st. KR has the luxury of hindsight kekw.

[sharp field]

i love your videos death, it got me through all the raids including akkan

[slate geyser]

Aegir will come out the same day, if not the next day though. I took time off work since a lot of people are requesting it.

[slate geyser]

bowing

[rose wren]

youtube throws a rando error causing u to delay upload...

[livid fossil]

💀

[slate geyser]

hey I only do this because I know new/returning players will eventually watch it x.x

[sharp field]

i know that i will

i am on thaemine and i feel like bard solo is gonna be a pain to do

[slate geyser]

Quite the opposite actually.

I play on the CN region and tested some of the support changes over there. It's pretty good for DPS in solo mode at the bare minimum.

[turbid reef]

idk how dps supports rn but

just wait few days

they gonna change them

[slate geyser]

We'll be getting the support rework this upcoming reset. You'll notice a difference for sure.

[turbid reef]

if they are not playable rn ofc

[valid helm]

They’re

[sharp field]

oh wait really??

[valid helm]

You can clear as a dps bard

[rapid fiber]

yes its clearable its just harder

[slate geyser]

Yes. Even paladin dps feels a lot better.

[valid helm]

Not harder, just takes longer

[rapid fiber]

which is harder..?

[valid helm]

Just don’t get hit

[slate geyser]

Artist dps is cool. Bard I did not test but I have a friend on CN who plays DPS bard. Said it feels a lot better.

[rapid fiber]

thats what I said too

[jagged zinc]

im pretty sure dps supports are above average for solo mode btw

like top 40%

[bold geyser]

you're doing fine i'm just playin 😄

[slate geyser]

Also, I'm almost certain that the True Supporter solo mode buff has been removed.

(Not having to brand the boss).

[sharp field]

so you could slot in another damage skill

[slate geyser]

It's not CN at least from what I tested.

[slate geyser]

Yeah.

[sharp field]

sweet

[slate geyser]

You'll also get a slight buff in damage due to Paradise as well. Nothing too crazy but it'll help a little bit.

[sharp field]

i have a lot of fun with bard so im happy that it will be.. a little easier, im still very new to the game but its tough lol

i JUST hit 1610 with it

[valid helm]

I’m pretty sure you can clear solo mode quite easily

I did it on ilvl

[slate geyser]

Picking bard as your first class is interesting. Highest apm out of all supports from my understanding.

[valid helm]

Or you can join a lobby as a support

[sharp field]

i played years ago, took a break and then came back

[shadow pasture]

Had a friend pick deathblade and arcana as first classes

He quit shortly after

[sharp field]

i have an aeromancer, slayer and bard, and i like bard as the best, i like the very active playstyle

[slate geyser]

Oh yeah. Mokoko bootcamp is making a comeback. You'll likely not have to touch solo-mode for a while.

[sharp field]

mokoko bootcamp?

[slate geyser]

That's a quick case for arthritus. I tried swift arcana and my hands got tired pretty quickly lol.

[rose wren]

how can it when u hit mana shortage...

[queen dove]

whats max level for ships?

[slate geyser]

Mana issues somewhat get resolved with the new support changes.

[shadow pasture]

Just run like 3 summoners 1 bard to off set mana problems

[bold geyser]

12, i think?

[rose wren]

11 but what the point, u really should save coins for bloodclaws

[slate geyser]

But it's still possible to run out of mana from my understanding.

[deft arrow]

I am a returning player.... interested in seeing how the mokoko boot camp will work .. my brain is too slow... even for solo mode T_T

[bold geyser]

only applies to brel and aegir hm, i thought?

[slate geyser]

You basically get a mokoko icon next to your character whenever you apply for a raid. Everyone will want a mokoko since they get tokens for the event shop (you get tokens too). It's a win-win siutation.

[slate geyser]

No. It's up to brel nm. It'll likely apply starting from Thaemine or something, up to Brelshaza. I don't recall them ever stating it's specifically for those two raids only.

[bold geyser]

that's awesome

[shadow pasture]

Wished I grinded out the first bootcamp for the relic book

Ended up missing out on it

[deft arrow]

yo those relic books are expensssssive

o.o

[slate geyser]

Once you get 10 clears of that raid (get the raid title), the icon goes away though. From my understanding. So if you already have 10 clears of Aegir or Brel NM, it'll go away for that raid.

[sharp field]

ohh gotcha

[valid helm]

You’re not the target audience

[slate geyser]

The icon going away shouldn't be a big deal though. By the time you get 10 clears and get the raid title, you should have a general understanding of the fight.

[sharp field]

ima try thaemine, wish me luck : D

well gate 1 anyway

[slate geyser]

Good luck. Gate 1 & 2 is pretty chill. Gate 3 would likely be a challenge for you though.

A few mechanics that currently exist in solo mode, will be removed with next weeks patch.

Like Echidna Gate 2 x55 mech, Thaemine G3 x275 mech, etc. Two I can think of off the top of my head that I remember.

[sharp field]

thank you

!

im watching your guide rn :3

[livid fossil]

what was 55 mech encinnada

[rose jewel]

mirrors

stagger

[livid fossil]

275 sword

[slate geyser]

Yeah the mirror mech is just simply not there. At least on CN. I see no reason why our version would be different next patch.

[livid fossil]

for thaemie

[slate geyser]

Albion.

[livid fossil]

ok

[prisma warren]

Sorry, stuck again! What's a class that has practically no animation locks and maybe is also free from the concept of GCDs (where you have to wait a long-ish time between each spell)? Currently trying some builds in the demo thingie, and can't find something that feels good.

Like, am fine with getting locked here and there, but if my rotation feels like I'm just gonna have the time to make a bbq between spells, I don't like that.

[rapid fiber]

Taijutsu scrapper

Remaining energy death blade

[rose wren]

dont be sorry, ask away, probably all swift builds

[rapid fiber]

Demonic shadow hunter

Predator slayer

[manic quarry]

windfury aeromancer

[rose jewel]

a better question for a better answer would be what kind of playstyle you like in other games, like not only mmos

[rose wren]

have u checkout class bief in guide?

[rose jewel]

so we can pinpoint more exactly a specific class archetype

[prisma warren]

Uhhh, can you guys give me the Class + Combo? I don't recognize those names 😭

[manic quarry]

uhm

we just did

[livid fossil]

he came from wOW

[manic quarry]

oh

hm

i kinda forgot about that fact

my bad

[prisma warren]

That's a VERY good question, but for me, all I need is "class shouldn't feel like crap", and I'll play anything the group needs. 95% of my fun is from the content.

[rapid fiber]

How much apm do you want

[rose jewel]

there is no class that is 100% needed for the group but supports

[rapid fiber]

This can range from 35-85

[manic quarry]

how much fingers do you want to break

[rose jewel]

most classes got reworked over the years so their animations are better

[prisma warren]

I just hate ultraomegaupadupa high APM.

[rose jewel]

no arcana then

[prisma warren]

Don't mind a bit of action.

[manic quarry]

ok so deathblade is a nono

[bold geyser]

those are all "spec" + "class" formatting

[rapid fiber]

What is a comfortable apm for you

[manic quarry]

eso SF is a nono

[prisma warren]

On the slower side, but I'm not a grandpa.

[astral root]

pred slayer

[rapid fiber]

Yeh Pred slayer

Demonic impulse shadow hunter

[manic quarry]

pred slayer seems to fit the bill

[prisma warren]

Like Chris Hansen?

[manic quarry]

not too high apm demanding

but enough apm

[astral root]

i think roundhouse resets make tai too high apm

[prisma warren]

Sorry 😭

[manic quarry]

to not feel slow

[prisma warren]

Alright, let me try that.

[rapid fiber]

That shit still caps out at like 55apm no?

[astral root]

also you'll need galewinds to make classes feel smoother

[timber mauve]

What does valk build into?

Valk dps

[astral root]

it feels like it at some point

[manic quarry]

taijutsu

[astral root]

crit main/swift secondary (Valk)

[timber mauve]

[prisma warren]

Pred Slayer is Female Warrior Slayer, right?

[manic quarry]

yes

shes Slayer

[prisma warren]

And I assume "Predator" would be an Ascendancy or the sorts?

[manic quarry]

its a stance / advanced position

[timber mauve]

Class spec or stance

[rose wren]

predator engraving class playstyle

[timber mauve]

Whatever tf you wanna call it

[prisma warren]

Aha

YOOYOYOYOYO SHE HAS SPIN-TO-WIN

[manic quarry]

i just call it stance, easier

[rose wren]

classic warrior

[rapid fiber]

Unfortunately not used lmao

[prisma warren]

FUCK

[rose wren]

no1 can blame u if u use it solo

[timber mauve]

You can use the short whirly thing tho

[prisma warren]

Either the rotation is really good, or I just play spin2win every game.

[timber mauve]

[bold geyser]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hZuP7TRwvaNDBnt7QKZJB-TdJLKvgtRdxhQr104l5Qg/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.x8vmaoyys453

[manic quarry]

she doesnt spin to win like your classic berzerkers

[rapid fiber]

Final blow?