if i get 7 people to run vykas with me i cann
#lost-ark-help
manic quarry
There's too much room for error if you do Vykas as a group, trust me
trail wigeon
Than group actually
but id i do on group hard mode, i get the mats i need, on solo mode i would be 1 off :((
yeaah but its the only way to do it
vast oriole
dont forget the first clear box reward for vykas
trail wigeon
unless i wanna wait a week haha
vast oriole
i dont remember if it gives mats
trail wigeon
dont forget the first clear box reward for vykas
ohhh
trail wigeon
do they also give it doing it solo?
trail wigeon
:((
livid fossil
Let the Sadge begin
manic quarry
vast oriole
Uh no it doesn't arna
fuck smilegate
vast oriole
BECAUSE THEY DUMB
summer thunder
what's loa?
vast oriole
lost ark online
but kr call it loa because of how its pronounce there
and we just followed
summer thunder
prob after loa on
so this person is specifically referring to the Korean version of Lost Ark here?
vast oriole
no
summer thunder
what do they mean by that sentence then?
vast oriole
that a convention that they announce lot of things
summer thunder
oh ON stands for something then too
vast oriole
yea
summer thunder
i see
summer thunder
I see
timber mauve
oh ON stands for something then too
timber mauve
summer thunder
So LOA is just Lost Ark?
summer thunder
k
timber mauve
So LOA is just Lost Ark?
it's abbreviated loa on due to how the Korean language works.
summer thunder
I don't think so
summer thunder
LOst Ark On
I think it's because of this lol
rose wren
la taken and known
vast oriole
anyway
timber mauve
I don't think so
The origin of LOA is only the abbreviation (๋ก์)LOA
Anyways, my Korean is too rusty to remember all the rules of grammar.
paper walrus
its just shortened to the first syllable
most east asian languages shorten long names to the first syllable of each word
cause the language is syllables instead of characters
timber mauve
Indeed, first consonants and the syllables. Oh well, it's been too long and I forget the actual grammatical rules of Korean.
paper walrus
fake korean
timber mauve
visual zephyr
Will destroyer out dps Gunlancer bc of the high utility skills GL has and dealing less dmg is how it is balanced or not really? Trying to decide which one to power pass as tanky front attacker class
vast oriole
it depends of your hands
a good gunlancer can outdps a lot of classes
a bad gunlancer will do nothing
same for destroyer
depends a lot of the boss too
manic quarry
on gunlancer you can control how you want the boss to act with the taunt
in which case facing towards you
manic quarry
o they do?
vast oriole
yep
manic quarry
visual zephyr
hmm so sounds like just play whatever class angle i was just looking at a 1740 Des and 1735 gunlancer and destoyer did like 100M more dps was just curious
swift elbow
I am looking to make a new character, either slayer, reaper, deathblade or shadowhunter, but im not quite sure which one and i am not wanting to put in the effort of playing every single one to find out but they all sound fairly fun to me in concept. My current enjoyments are high apm classes like gs and arcana as i find movement fun, but since those classes were quite intensive to learn to a degree to actually do dps i'd like this one to not be as much of a pain? idk if theres any class from those which is easier to pilot but still relatively fun to manage
manic quarry
holy mother of bible text
vast oriole
red gunlancer can pump aswell, blue a bit less
i think its just harder to be really good at gunlancer
visual zephyr
yeah i got less hands so prolly destoyer angle
rose wren
arcana require many braincells, u thrown urself in the very deep
manic quarry
reaper definetely
vast oriole
well i would guess in those choices, deathblade is the most apm heavy?
swift elbow
slayer/reaper were my initial 'wanting to play' but im not sure on how difficult they are to perform on
manic quarry
depends on if its RE or surge
vast oriole
slayer is fairly easy to perform on
manic quarry
surge def asks for a lot
vast oriole
reaper is not easy at all
shadowhunter is the easiest of them all but i dont know if i would consider it high apm
rose wren
i play around abit on dealthblade surge, doesnt seem high
swift elbow
i still want a slight learning curve at least, because i find fun in the challenge, i just also dont want my old gs experience of being dead on the floor perma 
vast oriole
i dont think surge is high apm
i think its the opposite
to perform well on re you need high
surge too i guess if you want to have best cpm on surge skill
swift elbow
but tbh i know raids better now so i dont think it will be similar to when i first started, its moreso how much depth the class itself has
manic quarry
if you have raid knowledge, thats a good bonus
rose wren
shadowhunter u're always transforming to deal most dmg
swift elbow
would there be any way to view how difficult reapers gameplay would be?
manic quarry
if you are able to recognize what the boss will do and determine what you should do next to optimize your output, you are chilling
swift elbow
since its hard to tell without knowing whats going on but even a guide or smth thats well made will probably be enough
rose wren
probably people do raids video yt
swift elbow
if you are able to recognize what the boss will do and determine what you should...
yeah i mean i had to do this a lot for gs dps so i feel like i understand damage windows and that should make it easier to pick up something that is a bit more difficult
and last question from t4 do either reaper or slayer feel significantly better? (i havent hit t4 yet so im not sure how much it affects a class)
vast oriole
both
swift elbow
but i know for example arcana is a different class in t4 due to devil
i guess i'll just go reaper for now and if i find it too difficult i can drop it and make a slayer whenever next pass comes
thanks for info 
chrome orchid
i guess i'll just go reaper for now and if i find it too difficult i can drop it...
Honestly
Just go from the start with Slayer, you might really really regret reaper
swift elbow
well i always start with the mindset of wanting to play smth easy but then i get attracted to the compexity of a class and want to learn that instead lmao
i find enjoyment in learning how to play a class that doesnt play itself
chrome orchid
i find enjoyment in learning how to play a class that doesnt play itself
Yeah but...it's not only about learning how
swift elbow
https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-speedrunner-epic-gamer-sweatyspeedrunner-gif-22461...
me with my 2m dps on arcana in akkan 
chrome orchid
I found myself learning how to, but the class was doing too little dmg for effort I put in and time
swift elbow
i mean thats fine with me
chrome orchid
Time, effort = dmg? No, definitely not with reaper
swift elbow
gunslinger is the same in the early days
chrome orchid
And I saw that feedback from multiple people
chrome orchid
gunslinger is the same in the early days
I'd have to disagree, GS was in a better spot even in the past and now it's S fier
swift elbow
the effort to match other classes was not worth it at all but i found her v fun to play to try and match other peoples dps
chrome orchid
Both pm and tth
Anyway, my experience and few ppl I know, dropped her and feel like a regret kinda, class was way to weak
For the struggle
Up to you, my choice from those 2 would be Slayer
tame kayak
Both pm and tth
swift elbow
i'll take it into consideration
chrome orchid
<:KEKW:834726120606924850>
swift elbow
Anyway, my experience and few ppl I know, dropped her and feel like a regret kin...
did some more research online and it seems theres a lot of people who agree, i'll probably not go for her then and look at the others, thanks for heads up 
chrome orchid
Yeah no problem!!
Slayer kit is pretty straightforward and does good dmg
Could help with another choice if you have, based on what I heard and played
swift elbow
a bit random but is igniter a difficult class?
i was thinking about sorc but i think they're gem reliant? and that sounds like a hassle as a class i'd have to play from ground up
chrome orchid
Yeah, igniter is strong
Kit isn't really difficult
Build meter, burst
Back and forth
Gem reliant...? But I don't know if you need again a certain Lvl of cd on certain skills
paper walrus
all classes are gem reliant
swift elbow
and how difficult is she to get up and running? because last time i played she was expensive
yeah but some are easier to work with
chrome orchid
Well probably she's gonna be fine with 7s?
swift elbow
and some are heavily gem reliant on specific gems
chrome orchid
I don't know exactly if you would need something higher for QoL, but probably some skills will feel better at higher LVL
Cd important for QoL
atk for more dmg
You should check a bit the sorc guide and decide
Kit is simple and she's strong
Got some changes past patches
swift elbow
i'll look at slayer and sorc then and pick one, thanks
turbid flame
all AH got nerfed
turbid flame
they also possibly AH'd in T3
summer thunder
oh just cost wise, not % chance wise?
chrome orchid
<a:cinaNoted:1135176689463345202> i'll look at slayer and sorc then and pick one...
Hmm probably, sorc for easier gameplay cuz Slayer is BA
summer thunder
it's guaranteed???
chrome orchid
oh just cost wise, not % chance wise?
No
turbid flame
You should look up the mechanic, the interface is different
chrome orchid
Just cost + mats wise amount was nerfed
summer thunder
oh I didn't realize ur in KR
swift elbow
Hmm probably, sorc for easier gameplay cuz Slayer is BA
yah but i may go slayer just because back attack sounds like more fun (even if it means i will get inconsistent dps)
turbid flame
I'm not
chrome orchid
Yeah fair
turbid flame
I took a screenshot from google
swift elbow
same reason i love arcana my dps is so inconsistent but i find arcana way more fun than gs when i pump like double the dps on gs for now
summer thunder
there, happy?
ah ty! much easier to read now
swift elbow
Check both Predator and Punisher
is this the engravings?
turbid flame
ah ty! much easier to read now
don't need to be able to read to see that the interface is completely different from regular honing
manic quarry
is this the engravings?
Ark passive
turbid flame
it'll take a 20 page google doc for you to understand it anyway, and you'll still complain that it needs to be nerfed :^)
swift elbow
i meant like class engraving
swift elbow
but class engravings are in the ark passive ๐ญ
summer thunder
how can honing be that complicated?
manic quarry
but class engravings are in the ark passive ๐ญ
It got moved into the enlightenment tree
swift elbow
i went to community guide it is the class engravings
swift elbow
bruh im saying its the same thing
lavish groveBOT
chrome orchid
is this the engravings?
Yupp
swift elbow
i read that predator is significantly better or is that just biased opinion
lavish mortar
bias, but it is better if you're new / doing solo
chrome orchid
Ppl said better
lavish mortar
both are very good
chrome orchid
I've only played Punisher in t3
swift elbow
yea im pretty much running solo only for a while
chrome orchid
In T3 I hated predator
And the whole premise with predator
Probably if I had her in T4 I would play punisher
Punisher is build meter, throw abilities= dmg
lavish mortar
pred is much better now that you can cancel whenever
swift elbow
i wont have any problems with runes if that makes a difference cuz i saw punisher is runes reliant
i played in the past so i have quite a lot of them
swift elbow
oh okaay they use to be annoying af so i dunno about currently
i guess i'll just watch a guide on both so i can at least get a better understanding than just reading text
thorny prairie
In T3 I hated predator
I still hate Predator in T4 btw
But the 4th node is a gamechanger
that will make you appreciate it A LOT more
thorny prairie
Having the control to cancel out early and control and align with forced raid downtimes is so good
chrome orchid
The whole hate for predator for me was, spam shit = low dmg, hating my life
Not talking about form
It was just annoying
thorny prairie
oh and exhaustion is longer than 10 seconds
chrome orchid
Probably ?
thorny prairie
that is massive
chrome orchid
I would still not play predator 100% in the T4
thorny prairie
back then if you had a really long pattern and activated burst mode, you would fall out early, get 25 seconds penalty and lose dps when boss is back
swift elbow
i like stuff with good uptime
chrome orchid
Maybe but I would still probably choose punisher
swift elbow
but i think thats every class
chrome orchid
i like stuff with good uptime
Predator might be your thing then
thorny prairie
i like stuff with good uptime
Predator with 4th node is easy and high uptime tbh
way easier to play as entropy then other classes
The only thing that kinda sucks is your huge need of MP
swift elbow
i mean my fave part of gs and arcana is that ur like perma using spells, but i havent played other classes so in my mind thats just every class?
thorny prairie
You play GS and Arcana? 
swift elbow
yea i started the game as gs and picked up arcana recently
i use to play 6 gunslingers till i fixed my roster 
thorny prairie
Okay holy shit, Slayer is nothing for you, you probably play the sweatiest classes in all of Lost Ark haha
thorny prairie
GS and Arcana is something else
I highly respect any good GS and Arcana player, they are nuts
pallid forge
whats the sweatiest class? lol
thorny prairie
because you need those hands
swift elbow
im dog at arcana ๐
chrome orchid
whats the sweatiest class? lol
Arcanist, GS
thorny prairie
Arcanist, GS
BY FAR
swift elbow
but im fairly confident in gs cuz i been playing her so long i probably have like 1 month of playtime in arcana but its split over a long time so im still fairly new to her
pallid forge
sorry im pretty new, what does the GS stand for?
chrome orchid
Gunslinger
thorny prairie
Hunger is easy to pick up but actually hard to pump and reach the ceiling
pallid forge
ohhh ok
swift elbow
gs was only difficult cuz how much more reliant you are on understanding boss patterns
since animation locks fk u in a boss fight if u dont know everything
cancelling your dps to dodge on gs feels so bad
i dont feel like i have to do that on arcana so thats a huge plus
thorny prairie
sorry im pretty new, what does the GS stand for?
Depends what classes you play
Gunslinger and Arcana are by far the sweatiest
Deadeye with Enhanced Weapon also pretty hard
Deadeye with Pistoleer the opposite xd
pallid forge
whoops, im deadeye and planning to go enhanced weapon ๐คฃ
swift elbow
im hoping that slayer will be fun but a lot more chill as i enjoy difficult classes but im learning arcana still rn so i dont want smth that requires too much investment to learn
thorny prairie
Slayer is way more chill than GS and Arcana
chrome orchid
whoops, im deadeye and planning to go enhanced weapon ๐คฃ
Look it's not THAT bad
It got improved
But will require some learning, getting used to stances swapping
thorny prairie
Yeah EW is not that bad on skill level like GS and Arcana
pallid forge
im glad to hear it, i like blasting with the shotgun lol
thorny prairie
But definitely harder than other classes
swift elbow
yea shotgun dps is satisfying
chrome orchid
Yeah, will require learning
chrome orchid
Yes afaik
swift elbow
i dont know if deadeye has it but gs can cancel shotgun by changing weapon
it can save you a spacebar jump
swift elbow
you want need to sometimes when you're going to get hit and lose the dps anyways
thorny prairie
It is
pallid forge
yea sometimes i get stuck in animation. i've definitely noticed that
swift elbow
oh oki, gs has the falling down animation which screws you over anyways
thorny prairie
I just know I never play GS or Arcana, I don't have the skill required for that gameplay xd
rose jewel
falling down to the floor when you get 1shot by a normal pattern
chrome orchid
Hahahaah
swift elbow
i mean i put my note in my old guild as floorslinger, that class was horrible until i put the hours in
chrome orchid
Haha
swift elbow
she takes way too much damage
chrome orchid
Definitely something as I heard
thorny prairie
I tried it way back and deleted it for a Wardancer
chrome orchid
GS, reapers
thorny prairie
Which then I deleted for Aeromancer
chrome orchid
Floor cleaners
thorny prairie
Here I am as Aeromancer main...
chrome orchid
Which then I deleted for Aeromancer
I'd choose wd over aero
swift elbow
i think the most chill class i have so far is artist
that class seems so low effort to perform with
chrome orchid
I loved artist
thorny prairie
I'd choose wd over aero
Actually was Scrapper main first, but I rerolled
swift elbow
i want to hone my bard but i read online a lot that artist is just objectively better rn
so im kinda just honing artist as supp first
swift elbow
i just remember bard required a bit more thinking so it was more interactive gameplay
swift elbow
oh okay, well it use to be pretty good so idk if it got nerfed or smth
i played like a year or 2 ago
chrome orchid
It is good but sucks
thorny prairie
Artist/Bard over Paladin
chrome orchid
Artist is better
thorny prairie
Not even close
swift elbow
i like artist for dps in solo raid tho
chrome orchid
If you already like artist go for it
swift elbow
that shit slaps for no reason
swift elbow
fair i mean yeah artist is pretty fun to play too, i find her abilities satisfying to use
chrome orchid
I choose a good artist over a good bard
swift elbow
so if shes just that much better than no reason to commit to bard
thorny prairie
Yeah need to run 2 brands instead of 1 brand is one of those
thorny prairie
Wish they would just buff Sonatina on the level of Orchids tbh
chrome orchid
And Easier to perform with
thorny prairie
so you can run 1 brand on Bard
chrome orchid
And not so mana Hungry as bard
swift elbow
i use to dps boost only because unlike artist u have to use the full bar so that made it inconvenient to perma heal people
chrome orchid
Bard is soo hungry at mana
swift elbow
oh yea that too
chrome orchid
i use to dps boost only because unlike artist u have to use the full bar so that...
Exactly
swift elbow
artist doesnt have mana issues afaik
thorny prairie
Yeah MP consumption is also a Bard issue
thorny prairie
Only time you can really oom on Artist is on high uptime with high gems and MP Furnace
chrome orchid
And not use food or more mana engravings
Bard sucks even if you use everything
Still hungry af
thorny prairie
I run MPF and never have oom issues on Artist with decent uptime
swift elbow
completely forgot about her mana issues
thorny prairie
on bard I would have to use Mana food GUARANTEED
chrome orchid
I run MPF and never have oom issues on Artist with decent uptime
95/99/70, with no max mp or food, I would run in mana isuess
thorny prairie
even with max mp and MS
chrome orchid
Food or max mp, would resolve the problem on artist
Bard is still hungry after everything
obsidian valve
mine still using mp bracelet, but probably need a new one lol
swift elbow
im having issues with matching my arcana dps to gs, is it because im not t4? i know arcana has some 'devil' t skill that its reliant on for dps in t4
obsidian valve
yeah that's kinda what i'm doing
chrome orchid
im having issues with matching my arcana dps to gs, is it because im not t4? i k...
Yes
obsidian valve
but 1660 atm
thorny prairie
I got a T3 ancient with dagger and mp recovery
swift elbow
neither are t4
swift elbow
but gs feels way stronger t3 than arcana
swift elbow
yea i imagine that plays a big part
chrome orchid
Yes
swift elbow
i have like 1.2k hrs on gs and maybe 60 hrs on arcana
chrome orchid
Specially on arcanist and gs
Sure T4 helps but
A good but really good player with those perform so high, other classes look weak
Besides the nr1 sweatiest class re
And strongest probably
swift elbow
i thought breaker was strongest
chrome orchid
Nope
swift elbow
A good but really good player with those perform so high, other classes look wea...
yea true perhaps i just need time to get better at her and the dps will fix itself
chrome orchid
Yes!!
They are the hardest classes
Hands impact a lot more than just gems or shit
swift elbow
i improved my dps lately just by watching a basic guide on her cuz i realised i do not know enough about her
chrome orchid
Strongest classes in T4 are Remaining energy - blade
arcanist
swift elbow
like i didnt know judgement works without ruin stacks so i was using it wrong, eyes issue ๐ญ (i didnt read my cards yet since i was learning rotation)
chrome orchid
Then idk
chrome orchid
like i didnt know judgement works without ruin stacks so i was using it wrong, e...
Yeah exactly
Class is hard needs to be studied and practice
- learning rotations and such
chrome orchid
Good luck man
thorny prairie
Another strong class is Ferality Wildsoul
swift elbow
cuz even gs feels really fun when u learn her
thorny prairie
That shit slaps
opal prawn
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swift elbow
but from the sound of it reaper damage doesnt match them
chrome orchid
Nope
swift elbow
theres a satisfaction in learning a high difficulty class and being rewarded by it, i enjoy that a lot
chrome orchid
You won't be so rewarded for reaper
swift elbow
sad
chrome orchid
In my opinion
swift elbow
it had potential 
thorny prairie
Yeh the reaper guys been dooming for quite a long time now
swift elbow
Another strong class is Ferality Wildsoul
yea i saw that but i dont want another ayaya ๐ญ
thorny prairie
Because you have simply better options
sonic holly
btw what's the best/quickest una's for 1580 (up to elgacia) chars and 1640 char?
thorny prairie
btw what's the best/quickest una's for 1580 (up to elgacia) chars and 1640 char?
1580 is Lopang, 1640 is leapstones
sonic holly
No leaps for alts? To push when time is due?
thorny prairie
I mean if you want to push a T3 character, also leaps
sonic holly
1580 is Lopang, 1640 is leapstones
and for 1640, which route
thorny prairie
and for 1640, which route
I do those
sonic holly
I mean if you want to push a T3 character, also leaps
is shushire, and feiton ones still bis?
sonic holly
I do those
but which 3 unas do you do?
swift elbow
well i appreciate the chat it gave me a bit of a better perspective on the classes i was interested in so it helped me a lot, thank u and have a nice day/night i will be despawning for now 
thorny prairie
well i appreciate the chat it gave me a bit of a better perspective on the class...
sure always a pleasure!
sonic holly
as for 1580 leaps, shushire/feiton route works?
thorny prairie
I would do Voldis storyline for Sage tower
jagged zinc
i want to hone my bard but i read online a lot that artist is just objectively b...
dont know where you read this, but you should stop trusting this source
swift elbow
i saw a lot of reddit comments that artists are just a lot more reliable
jagged zinc
yes, but that doesn't mean objectively better
thorny prairie
Voldis Sage Tower is one of the quickest unas for leaps
jagged zinc
artist is significantly easier to play
thorny prairie
And it gives 5
jagged zinc
thus there are more good artists than there are good bards
objectively speaking, bard provides the most ehp for your team (and raid)
thorny prairie
Better drop away the feitons tbh
jagged zinc
also objectively speaking, the strongest buffs
swift elbow
my main issue would be when i played her before there was an investment (kind of) for her to not perma oom, i dont know if the new system would change that in any way or if shes still as annoying to play, ooming in solo raids sounds awful
jagged zinc
the new system revised the class
sonic holly
I've just got done doing pleccia - north kurzan in one sitting on my main
Im kinda burnt out from story
jagged zinc
it doesnt have big mana issues anymore, especially if you run standing striker
it has virtually nonexistent mana issues
thorny prairie
I've just got done doing pleccia - north kurzan in one sitting on my main
Perfect then you have done Voldis already
swift elbow
thats contradicting to what was said earlier about her still ahving mana issues
sonic holly
Perfect then you have done Voldis already
yeah on main, not alters
thorny prairie
You can also do Hestera Garden on Elgacia, it's fine but a rather long Una task that consists of 2 minutes afking
jagged zinc
you get significantly more mana regen in t4
thorny prairie
There is faster options tbh, but it's not terrible
jagged zinc
enough where you don't have to worry about it
you also get access to 5th engraving assuming you're talking about pre-t4 bard
sonic holly
Btw I currently am finding mana problems on emperor arcanist. Do these get solved with support/t4?
jagged zinc
which allows you to run max mp without needing to sacrifice anything
and you can also upgrade max mp for relatively cheap
standing striker bard has 0 mana issues, whereas mp furnace does have some issues for obvious reasons but still manageable
swift elbow
my quirk for liking bard was always that she required more effort but was a strong class when played at her potential, whereas artist has a low floor and can perform pretty well in general, as i mentioned before i enjoy learning the curve and being rewarded for it which made bard fun, but she sounds like she would be harder for solo content than an artist would since artist dps abilities seem a lot better
jagged zinc
the class is just harder to pilot and what you give is more apparent than artist who can mostly just turn brain off and be fine
solo content shouldn't be a concern
since 1. it stops early on (its always 2-4 raids behind current endgame) and 2. supports don't struggle in solo mode
*with a proper build
sonic holly
Is Paladin still good/desireable?
thorny prairie
Is Paladin still good/desireable?
Any support is desireable
jagged zinc
pick a class based off what you want to play, not whats good in solo mode
you won't regret it
solo mode is entirely irrelevant to the later stages of the game
swift elbow
my currents are 1596 1580 1540 so i am still in solo content area, i just want smooth sailing in solo content because i'd hate to lose interest in a class due to it being annoying to play in solo raids
thorny prairie
Just pick whatever support you want to play
jagged zinc
generally speaking though, supports perform quite well in solo mode
thorny prairie
Gotta say though... Female Paladin is apparently a support as well
Might wanna wait
jagged zinc
they get a ridiculous amount of damage in solo due to their solo exclusive buff
swift elbow
my artist does more dmg than my arcana, im genuinely concerned for my hands ๐ญ
sonic holly
yeah I will wait before evolving any alt support
thorny prairie
Who knows what they cook up with Female Paladin
She is probably beefed up as hell
swift elbow
well u given me a little motivation to try bard then
thorny prairie
to promote swiping for whales
swift elbow
i was not looking to play a class that requires effort with little return
turbid flame
my paladin at ilvl clears faster than every other at ilvl class
jsut cause decent dps build and true supporter broken
swift elbow
the others made bard sound so much worse than artist so i didnt want to touch it ๐ญ
thorny prairie
jsut cause decent dps build and true supporter broken
oh wait until female paladin comes out..
jagged zinc
yeah, as long as you follow proper dps builds for solo mode, they'll outperform a lot of solo mode dps
thorny prairie
I could imagine she could do both, on the highest level
turbid flame
yea, idk if i'll make her tho, cause would have to buy char slots
jagged zinc
but yeah, bard is still a very difficult support compared to the other two
thorny prairie
First class that goes nuts on support AND dps
jagged zinc
very very noticeable if you're a great bard vs an average one
swift elbow
yea i mean i learnt her initially when i was playing clown and i realised she has a lot of specific gimmicks with raids that u have to learn, which was part of the reason i found her fun since theres a learning curve to her, difficulty was never an issue for me as i just see it as fun
but if a good bard is better than a good artist i'd definitely be more interested in bard
jagged zinc
Better in some ways yes, some would say the more important ways
thorny prairie
Well mr el champu I wish you a good night
And best advice I can give you: Just play what you enjoy the most
may it be sweaty or not
vast oriole
i hate progging a new raid as a bard
but for other routine raids, bard is good
i hated bard in 4man also that required a lot of stagger
i rerolled of my bards in t3 because mana issues were just insane
i dont eat mana food on my bard in t4 at all
class is just old for the 2 brand skills (its dumb), but rest of the bard is very good
i just prefer playing my artists because im dumb and i dont like to think
dreamy bluff
if support is using "youHaveAPlan30" in brel g1, is LOS30 better or is lightning18 better?
sacred moth
hi im looking for a complete build guide for my shadowhunter but all of these dont have facet or card info, does anyone have a good guide?
lavish groveBOT
sacred moth
tyvm
lavish mortar
if support is using "youHaveAPlan30" in brel g1, is LOS30 better or is lightning...
lightning 18
jaunty token
hey sorry to bother yall, I just wanted to clarify something in the gear progression guide? So im 1620 right now with the full set of Kenuart Fort gear, I hone to 1660 and then transfer my gear from Aegir Kaz raid, then I use advance honing until the gear is level 10, then go back to normal honing?
turbid flame
well, with the full set of relic gear you'd be 1640, not 1620
jaunty token
oops sorry
turbid flame
hone to +14 -> AH 1-10 -> +16 -> 11-20
you don't have to wait till you get Aegir gear
since it carries over anyway
can advance hone while you work on getting the gear
may even help gatekeeping if you're 1670 instead of 1660 cause of +10 AH
jaunty token
ohhh thank you okay
that makes sense
so the advanced honing of 1-10 is its own separate thing to get it +16?
turbid flame
no
they're completely diff
it's just it's cheaper at that point to get the +10 ilvl from AH, than to get 2 taps on every item to get to +16
trail wigeon
which stone is better 2/2 ambush master cursed doll. or 2/2 adrenaline raid captain?
turbid flame
i don't have exact numbers, but if I Had to guess, Adren
trail wigeon
thanks!
copper token
Question I just turned level 50 at Atethine, but i heard the game opens up after completing vern? How far off is that?
And when would I obtain a power pass?
molten barn
is north kurzan or rimeria better for logging?
balmy plank
is north kurzan or rimeria better for logging?
You get the same mats. I still like the loop in Kurzan
balmy plank
Question I just turned level 50 at Atethine, but i heard the game opens up after...
North Vern is the next continent after Arthetine
molten barn
You get the same mats. I still like the loop in Kurzan
i figured it was the same but some said rimeria was better mat drop. but i felt the logging was longer/and not as good when i checked it other day. thanks!!
balmy plank
Drops are based on the Tier of the zone your in. Top right of your map will say the tier and what lifeskills are available on that map
Idk if maybe Remeria has some special hunting or mining loop of some sort that min/maxes slightly better
jaunty token
Can i clear legion raids to get card drops even if ive finished the weekly gold rewards?
balmy plank
Can i clear legion raids to get card drops even if ive finished the weekly gold ...
yes
jaunty token
thanks!
vagrant veldt
And when would I obtain a power pass?
I don't think you will
I believe it's removed
untold root
what's the first thing to do when logging in for first time since 2022
other than claiming free stuff daily
also should I be claiming them on a specific char or any work?
hearty kraken
what's the first thing to do when logging in for first time since 2022
claim stuff from universal storage
and claim your cards
untold root
does it matter which char I do that on?
hearty kraken
the cards no
but the universal storage has stuff for each character as well as roster stuff
you should get "rolled" accessories for example
alpine anvil
should sup run you have a plan for guardian raids?
untold root
if you mean me, I'll probably level/knowledge transfer a sorc
paper walrus
should sup run you have a plan for guardian raids?
expect los, since i assume most players are too lazy to set up gr cards
but yes if dps have gr cards then yhap should he put on
paper walrus
yhap is faster to complete, but you shouldnt use selects on it
alpine anvil
yhap is faster to complete, but you shouldnt use selects on it
i have about dozen selectors too, just worried about card xp
merry trail
Does South Rimeria have a better Logging rotation or is Kurzan still the best?
slim obsidian
kurzan is still fine since its in a small circle
and both give t4 mats but think u need some logging for some new items in rimeria
any1 know if you can still get the title if u beat g1-g2 normal and jus need to beat g3 on hard like brel was ?
paper walrus
we dont know
if it has the same system as brel, then it depends on which chest has the title
alpine anvil
unlocking extra gear/skin/engraving sets w/ blue crystals applies to only one character?
or the whole acct
turbid flame
believe char by char basis
alpine anvil
brutal
turbid flame
3 9s to make a 10... 3 8s to make a 9
so on and so forth
time to whip out the calculator :^)
autumn belfry
19,683 lvl 1 gems
729 lvl 4 gems to make a tier 10
243 lvl 5 to make a tier 10
gay damn
gah*
turbid flame
and then, if you want to make a T4 level 10 gem
calculate as if you were making a level 12 gem
:^)
autumn belfry
but dont u get lvl 1 gems from the higher chaos dungeon for tier 4
turbid flame
there's a reason they go for that much, need so many
turbid flame
I've done 1680 cd and gotten a level 2 before, that's it
autumn belfry
๐
turbid flame
sometimes drops just... no exist
turbid flame
autumn belfry
๐
turbid flame
I like that the gems are upgradable, makes it so even my shitter T3 chars can contribute to my wealth a decent amount
autumn belfry
I was thinkingg it would be possible to make a higher tier gem and sell it on auction for gold
but dont even seem viable no more
๐ญ
I would have to do 328 CD averaging 60 gems per run
to get a tier 10
autumn belfry
I got like 3 tier 6 rn
I just need gold to hone
thats all im missin
but my weapon sucks my gold like nun
untold root
why are all my chars in universal storage? did servers merge?
turbid flame
?merge
buoyant dockBOT
The servers have recently merged. This has moved around some items, but they are not lost.
Step 1. Reclaim your characters from the Universal Storage on the character select screen.
Step 2. Login and claim your cards on the Universal Storage tab on the card menu using ALT+C.
Step 3. Reclaim your roster storage by using ESC and opening Universal Storage.
Step 4. Re-equip your cards as they were reset and must be re-equipped.
You are all good to go!
For more information on the merge read this.
If you are looking for visuals than checkout the pins in โ #lost-ark-help.
untold root
so just claim them without having to worry if im on wrong server or something?
leaden pendant
MORE ENGRAVINGS LES GO
untold root
as my friends (who aren't responding rn)
turbid flame
your server probably doesn't exist anymore
if it got merged, your friends, if they were on the same server, will be on the new merged one too
untold root
oh yea choosing another server doesn't show the storage anymore makes sense
leaden pendant
Changhun tournament is also horizontal content? Like the crests
leaden pendant
What are these crests about then?
vagrant veldt
honestly i had fun with tournament arc
leaden pendant
So I win tournament and I get ark?
turbid flame
no spoilers 
leaden pendant
turbid flame
lose an accounts deleted, gl
leaden pendant
Well I don't like story
turbid flame
then shift+g
turbid flame
dunno what to tell you
leaden pendant
alpine anvil
i know the sh farm is cheeks, but does it have a chance to drop these?
quick thicket
help ๐ฆ i wanna transfer this
turbid flame
looks like it's only excavating treasure maps
vagrant veldt
help ๐ฆ i wanna transfer this
transfer what to what
outer mason
help ๐ฆ i wanna transfer this
I think there's a pin 
for this
turbid flame
I believe you just have to craft an Akkan weapon -> transfer Brel wep to Akkan -> transfer new Akkan to that wep
alpine anvil
ah i thought those maps were removed, maybe i have it mixed up
turbid flame
honestly, idr
leaden pendant
I have to start honing at Ilvl 250?
outer mason
I have to start honing at Ilvl 250?
technically at ilvl 500
you get 500 gear for free by doing 250-ilvl chaos dungeons
outer mason
You can do that after completing North Vern, that's what unlocks Chaos Dungeons
vagrant veldt
thats the only thing you should do when you get there
thats the first step of the rest of the game
leaden pendant
So I'm stuck at 250 till north vern?
And I'm like 2 more continents away from vern
Holy Jesus
vagrant veldt
yes
some are bound to char, some bound to roster
untradable means you cant give them to other players
leaden pendant
How many cosmetic outfits are there for slayeR?
turbid flame
lots
leaden pendant
Are they not visible for me yet?
timber elk
is this still relevant I know someone said the other day to start advance at +14
vagrant veldt
Are they not visible for me yet?
where are you looking
leaden pendant
shop
vagrant veldt
like f4?
leaden pendant
yes
vagrant veldt
they rotate things in and out i think
limpid moth
any guide for new world tree leaves in rimeria?
turbid flame
maxroll "might" be updated
turbid flame
Are they not visible for me yet?
lots of the older ones will be on auction house instead of f4 shop, cause no longer available for blue crystals
turbid flame
is this still relevant I know someone said the other day to start advance at +14
you can see the cost decreases
timber elk
using scrolls and glacier / lavas are the way to go?
timber elk
oh not before?
turbid flame
nah
timber elk
thanks for the info seems I skipped into level 2 after finishing level 1? such a weird system
heres another question, how useful are old t3 level 7 gems
turbid flame
sec
T3 level 7 is basically a T4 lvl 5
so still valuable
also, think of 1-10 as one honing level
just a really long honing bar
timber elk
gotcha, what is a solid spot to leave alts for just gold?
turbid flame
1585
timber elk
havent played since thaemine release so all my alts are around 1540
turbid flame
it's silver honing up to 1585, aside from Orehas
timber elk
I noticed alot of people looking for lumbering groups is that the best for crafting oreha?
timber elk
right on
turbid flame
this route for excavating in Abidos garrison is super fucking comfy
and still has multiple channels, due to field boss + chaos gate
Rimeria may be better, I just like that spot
timber elk
ill have to give that a go, thanks for sharing
turbid flame
Solo Akkan + Brel + Kayangel
not gigantic gold
but
even just getting to 1640, assuming you could make it into Behemoth + Echi + Thaemine on harder modes, you'd still take so long to make gold back
I mean, if you can find people to carry you... sure?
but most likely solo
timber elk
this guy has friends
turbid flame
1585 chaos dungeon also gives decent amount of gems that adds up over time
and can get gold embers
just lots of stuff here and there
i'm boosting alts to 1640, because idc about making the returns asap
and want to play with all the t-skills
timber elk
and want to play with all the t-skills
I feel that
turbid flame
yes
not for a few months prob
but
KR gets it prob June / July, us a bit after
yes
yes
able to do both
not sure how well dps
but
I mean, every gender diff class is different
Slayer is not EXACTLY like Berzerker
Gunslinger and Deadeye aren't exactly the same
they're similar
but not exactly the same
yes
notice how spells look similar
some of them, anyway
and no
June 21st is LOAON
can find out there
no...
Slayer / Berz
top one Berzerker, bottom one Slayer
female pally doesn't even have skills for KR yet
going to be shown off at LOAON
that's been the typical pattern so far
swift elbow
I was in solo raid and switched characters now I canโt go back into the raid, nothing I can do about it?
It says raid attempts exceeded or smth
turbid flame
You gotta press the stop button in top left corner
can try emailing support, but no guarantees
swift elbow
RIP
barren sigil
anyone know what the best way is to get notified when/where the 2nd bloodclaw 2nd fragment spawns (EUC arcturus)
turbid flame
right near Pellica
it spawns from :00 -> :33
so you have 6 minutes, can check sunflower island, right next to that place
otherwise just go that rotation rq once hour rolls over
barren sigil
found it next to lopang on arcturus for the next 30 mins
turbid flame
calm swan
are side quests important ?
rose jewel
Some unlock una tasks
Overall no, once you get a powerpass all of those will be cleared
If you're just doing story you can skip them
autumn belfry
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985680627762348092/1378373507666284624/image.png?ex=683c5ddd&is=683b0c5d&hm=4e64f8c8ed2d39f0bb80551a6e9d96b793790c1f608e27fcf234374c127f91d0& how people get these?
rose jewel
By being of a very high ilv and being stupidly fucking lucky
rose jewel
Just get more
rose jewel
Idk if these events have them but we got some energy potions from them
Enough to make quite a lot for a new player
autumn belfry
Yea but I gotta spend a lot of gold crafting the prime oreha
rose jewel
???
autumn belfry
Then my weapon sucks the gold
rose jewel
Just sell them raw dog
autumn belfry
Sell the prime oreha?
rose jewel
The life mats
autumn belfry
Im using the life mats to make the oreha for honing
I sold all my logging stuff each time tho
And shi goes down the drain quick as fuck
autumn belfry
1605
rose jewel
Not even endgame nvm
autumn belfry
Yea
rose jewel
Did you do your raids already
autumn belfry
Yup
rose jewel
Are you selling your tradable mats and using bound / event ones
autumn belfry
Yes
rose jewel
Haha new players have it hard, it sucks
autumn belfry
I heard it was worse for yall
rose jewel
People usually wait for events to hone
strange viper
I mean gold has always been a problem, even before t3...
strange viper
If you wanna just stay f2p and play casually you can slowly hone over time and you are not in a rush to go anywhere, solo shop helps a little cos you dont have to buy orehas etc.. But if you are in a rush to get to the endgame and raid with others.. well you are out of luck, swiping is the only way.
graceful flame
is there a reverse exchange?
spark cloud
how do the bid works? i dont get it
if i put only 10 gold and then the real price of the item on buy now. does it matter?
spark cloud
oh shit haha
rose jewel
If you just don't wanna risk it put both at the same amount
spark cloud
deposit will go back on me?
rose jewel
Or you can lower bid a tiny bit if people wanna try their luck of saving a few coins
Can help getting rid of an item faster
Deposit always comes back
Fee is taken when it sells
spark cloud
i see.thanks!
stable heron
Could someone help me out? I'm a bit confussed by the guide i found.
I found this guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OJQfnS3yd8sxNLI8gpxmrzW5fLoTt0Rl8AuP2adw9RU/edit?tab=t.0
For the skills section, what am i supposed to level? Only the skills mentioned in the guide?
rose jewel
Is that the same pic sent 3 times
wooden swallow
There's a number there.
14/10
Those are levels.
They're the recommended skills.
rose jewel
The guide should mention which skills must be leveled to 4 or 7 or 10 or 14 or whatever level
stable heron
Is that the same pic sent 3 times
yes, it messed up my bad!
wooden swallow
Level those.
stable heron
i see i see
But if i look to Eye of the Storm, i can't find it between my skills ๐ฎ
balmy plank
But if i look to Eye of the Storm, i can't find it between my skills ๐ฎ
You get it at level 50 after doing the awakening quest
stable heron
ok thanks!
golden quiver
What's with the heavy gatekeeping in behemoth these days?
rose jewel
Strong people want fast run
Weak people want a free ride
Weak people don't want a slow run / possible jail by running with other low people
Thus gatekeeping is created
golden quiver
iLvl 1660---denied
primal herald
how much rest do i get for 1 unifnished una task, 10?
golden quiver
Weird ass game. Then people wonder why dead game.
rose jewel
How is your char looking
primal herald
or is it 10 for 3 unfinished tasks
rose jewel
10 per una
primal herald
ok ty
rose jewel
Did you apply to a 1680+ lobby
Just either send your stuff here or even easier, name and region
We can check in the site
golden quiver
Doesnt matter how my char is looking. We're not running Aegir even. It's 1660 with L7 t4 gems. full thaemine shit. Full behe shit, Full elixer shit, what else do they want
rose jewel
golden quiver
Didnt even apply with 1680 rooms
rose jewel
The more you deny just throwing how it looks the more I think of stuff like low roster, bad books, gems
But what do I know
I can't check
vast oriole
Just do your own lobby if you dont want to deal with gatekeeping
jagged zinc
they're not just t3 accessories
rose jewel
T3 accessories, T3 stone, T3 bracelet which doesn't stand out a lot
rose jewel
There's also 2 T3 gems in there
Those out shadow the lv8
But honestly the accessories alone make it look very bad
Super mega cheap
I would also not let you in, even on a juiced lobby
Told you, there's more things than ilv
Being of a very high roster lvl and not making minimal investment on a 1660+ char is bad
That's my 2cents on the matter
golden quiver
Do you really have T3 accessories
I do. I dont see the point in upgrading to t4 red accessories tbh
vast oriole
rose jewel
I do, more damage
golden quiver
I guess imma have to solo until 1680
vast oriole
Then dont cry you get gatekept
rose jewel
It's something very basic
Look good, deal better dmg and you won't get gatekept as much
This is not even the community
This is you roaching out and wanting to be on lobbies with everyone else, people who invested in their chars
And the more ilv you have the more cheap you look with those t3 accs
Gl soloing up to kazeros I guess?
thorny prairie
I guess imma have to solo until 1680
Sadly I'm not on NAW
thorny prairie
As long as you do like 25m idc, you could join but we're on different regions so yeah
Kinda unlucky
vast oriole
Why would you accept someone that refuse to get decent accessories
U dont even need good lines on relic
thorny prairie
Because I don't care simple as that
vast oriole
People check if its t4 and dont care
rose jewel
You're encouraging him being super cheap
He can drop the accs, roll them, get literally nothing and it would be better than what he has rn
The amount of people that have literal useless accessories is unreal
And he can't even do that
thorny prairie
Whatever floats your boat I guess
golden quiver
80 quality t4 acc better than 95+ t3s?
vast oriole
yes?
balmy plank
Easily yes
thorny prairie
Yeah but it's NM so whatever
rose jewel
By a long shot yes
golden quiver
Can t3 stones be upgraded to t4?
thorny prairie
do the bare minimum requirement and I would take you
rose jewel
Yes
rose jewel
Yeah that's the only exception