i thought it was the wait 3 days and ur fine thing so i was spending it on unneccesary things 😭
#lost-ark-help
abstract mountain
abstract mountain
bru
abstract mountain
damn theres 1700s now
abstract mountain
i stopped playing when akkan hard was where all the diehards were
turbid flame
1740 is current "cap"
wooden swallow
I haven't seen one of those yet.
turbid flame
1735 = all 25, 1740 = all 25 + esther 9
wooden swallow
Yeah.
abstract mountain
well i see hard thaemine still has some parties so ig ill aim 1620 for now
wooden swallow
1620 is 1640.
abstract mountain
oh thats what you meant.
wooden swallow
It's an instant upgrade.
abstract mountain
oo
abstract mountain
wait wdym
turbid flame
hit 1620 -> do basically a fancy chaos dungeon -> gear transfer and get 1640
wooden swallow
Transfering to T4 gear gives you +20
thorny beacon
which one for pred slayer?
manic quarry
right
clear saddle
is there a right way to do this or is it luck?
thorny beacon
even tho the right one doesn't give crit stats?
thorny beacon
i'll take y'all word for it since 2 of u said right
- right one looks like less gatekeepy
manic quarry
you could always hold onto the left
swift elbow
What ilvl I have to hit till I can see other humans and not take on the world alone (solo raids)
turbid flame
1640+ prob
wooden swallow
Old content doesn't really give us anything worthwhile.
swift elbow
If only I played a few days earlier 
Yea no i understand fully the reasoning
I’m just surprised that there’s not ANY parties for lower content
Would have thought newbies would play with each other
hollow flare
dang in abyss, number of potion u can use is limited?
rose jewel
per try
green and blue is 5, purple 7, red 9
if you die you get them restocked but they dont come back, if used its lost
swift elbow
Is there still the mats calculator thing or is that cooked cuz the market site died
rose jewel
I’m just surprised that there’s not ANY parties for lower content
thae has some, ivory tower should have a couple, kayangel MAY have one here and there for a fast wing run
swift elbow
Yes actually i see mokokos everywhere 😭
wooden swallow
swift elbow
But it may be frauds
rose jewel
suuuuuuuure
rose jewel
my best friend 0923ha7ñ54´and his 500 bros
swift elbow
I seen a ton of them when I played today
So my gs is my highest ilvl class and I don’t feel like playing her
Should I just reach the next ilvl req and park her?
swift elbow
She’s 1568
wooden swallow
with 1600, i cant clear this first gate of abyss haha
sure you can
I believe.
It's easy.
Just gotta practice.
wooden swallow
She’s 1568
Uh, the next breakpoint is 1585, and that's still solo region, so.
swift elbow
Haven’t played for long so don’t really remember the reasoning you kept high ilvl characters outside of mats
swift elbow
I mean she’s not THAT boring I like gs as a class I just played her since I started so wouldn’t want her to be my main
Playing her weekly sounds fine
But I’m someone who use to have 6 gunslingers so that’s more so what I meant by I don’t want to play her 😭
swift elbow
Well I enjoyed all 6 back then
I just found fun in getting better at my class
But at some point I was fairly good at her and that’s when the enjoyment started dropping
Oh this is lost ark help chat mb I thought it was normal
swift elbow
Uh, the next breakpoint is 1585, and that's still solo region, so.
Would it be good to invest in her and leave her at that ilvl? Considering she’s my highest
manic quarry
not a good idea
wooden swallow
tbh, not really
swift elbow
Oh okay is it because it’s a heavy investment?
swift elbow
Well I don’t mind her as a side but I do 1000% want to play my arcana more
wooden swallow
So it's not really a loss for you.
But you can also put it into someone you care about.
swift elbow
Free as in it cost silver?
wooden swallow
Yeah.
swift elbow
Fair I meant investment as in mats
swift elbow
Since that is kinda a time investment to hone that much
wooden swallow
swift elbow
Isn’t solo shop roster?
wooden swallow
I raised all my alts on solo shop.
swift elbow
Or am I dumb
swift elbow
Oh ok I must have bought smth for roster and thought it was the whole shop oops
wooden swallow
So that's an option if you want.
swift elbow
Yea that sounds more doable, not as much of an issue
wooden swallow
I raised my second page of characters up to 1580 on just solo shop, it took I think a month or two?
But it's not like I really cared, so.
It was just for fun.
swift elbow
So when I played in past it was kinda a given you have 6 alts and you play them, is it so bad if I drop like 3? I know it’s a dumb question but I want more of a opinion on why it’s not a bad idea
wooden swallow
It's not.
turbid flame
you were NEVER required to have alts
wooden swallow
Most efficient is to just play one.
turbid flame
you can do just fine with 1 char
rose wren
who all? aint me
wooden swallow
Shore.
Play more if you want to, no one's requiring it.
Play one and dip is all good too.
swift elbow
Most efficient is to just play one.
How
wooden swallow
Alts are costly
wooden swallow
Nah
jaunty token
if I knowledge transfer a fresh character, will the game give me on ilvl gear?
vagrant veldt
Like you can push to wherever silver honing ends for sure but past that the costs are too high
wooden swallow
KT is just for story.
swift elbow
if I knowledge transfer a fresh character, will the game give me on ilvl gear?
Nop only ilvl
turbid flame
Vern KT is the only one that gives gear
rose wren
if I knowledge transfer a fresh character, will the game give me on ilvl gear?
only n-vern
swift elbow
Your gear is only till vern
vagrant veldt
Personally I have a full alt team because I think it's fun to play different characters
jaunty token
ohhhh, gotcha thanks! Then i just have to manually hone for ilvl?
jaunty token
perfect, thank you
swift elbow
That’s my thing I wanted to have a fun alt team but efficiency was always in the back of my mind lol
vagrant veldt
Having alts became much more fun for me when I stopped thinking about them in terms of efficiency
swift elbow
I made 1 gunslinger got her gems and transferred them in roster storage to each alt and played like that, it’s was good at the time but I’m so over it and just wanna try random classes for fun ngl
vagrant veldt
Like for any given week my main and whoever else I'm having fun on get full efficient work but the rest, maybe I do rested dailies
turbid flame
I mean, that's cheaper, sure
but
you also have to pay to get every char to that level
swift elbow
Yeah all my characters are around 1520 with my main being 1560
vagrant veldt
Where does silver honing end rn?
manic quarry
1580
swift elbow
That’s part of the reason I’m reluctant to just nuke a character
turbid flame
here's an example... 1585 - 1620
211.5k per char on avg
plus all the other mats
it'd take weeks to make that back, if they can get into the raids at 1640
swift elbow
That’s so expensive wth
turbid flame
let's assume they can find groups for hm echidna, thaemine, and behemoth.... 18k + 19.5k + 18.8k
that's per week
you'd need a few weeks to even make the gold back
assuming you can find groups for those raids
vagrant veldt
And the cost of fusions ofc
manic quarry
2.5k fusions isnt much when you can get 100for free from the soloshop
turbid flame
and let's be real... most groups want 1660+ nowadays
swift elbow
Yea but I mean all my characters are purely silver rn so it’s a different story but I think I’ll just take the advice of not playing smth I don’t want to
swift elbow
Realistically speaking anything Brel and below doesn’t make much gold anymore no?
vagrant veldt
Yeah I would say if there's something you don't want to do on an alt, don't
turbid flame
I mean, there's still costs, like fusions and what not, unless you hone very very slowly
swift elbow
Ah so free honing is like super slow?
turbid flame
rose wren
1class earn about 100k nowdays gold weekly
vagrant veldt
25 weeks!
swift elbow
Yeah that’s not really much in the bigger picture
wooden swallow
If there's someone you think you might consider honing up in the future, you can buy solo mode shop stuff for them.
swift elbow
Tbf i have fun classes i enjoy
jaunty token
is the major combat potion the biggest one to get?
wooden swallow
You don't have to hone them right away.
turbid flame
I play 9 characters, but, I know that you don't get the gold returned for a while
swift elbow
I just have 3 gunslingers spare around 1500 and use to use them for gold, so now it’s just a matter of what I do with them
wooden swallow
I hoard the boxes and open them when I need something.
turbid flame
I just eat the cost cause I enjoy it
manic quarry
is the major combat potion the biggest one to get?
yup
vagrant veldt
Solo shop slow pushing is very valid for alts
manic quarry
the purple combat potion is once per char
swift elbow
is the major combat potion the biggest one to get?
It shows you the xp if you hover over each one, I saw one gave 10mil which was the most
jaunty token
thanks!
swift elbow
Ok well I think I got my answer, sorry for stupid question I was partially seeking validation to not be in the never ending efficiency cycle 💀
wooden swallow
I bought out the shop for my 1585 Aero for like a month or two since I figured I might want to push her some day.
vagrant veldt
Not stupid to be clear
vagrant veldt
Ok well I think I got my answer, sorry for stupid question I was partially seeki...
Like I was worried about nuking an alt and then I realized that I disliked playing her so much that I was actively avoiding gold earning raids
swift elbow
My guild I was initially in had max characters and they played on them all so I felt the need to play all my alts cuz it was ‘normal’, hard to break that habit
vagrant veldt
So I just tank the cost because ultimately it's a game I'm playing for fun
turbid flame
I play alts so I can use all the different fun skills 
hollow flare
i think after pass 1600, with this setting so hard to beat first gate of abyss
dang
no dmg at all
swift elbow
So I just tank the cost because ultimately it's a game I'm playing for fun
Yea I think that’s just the bottom line
wooden swallow
I believe.
turbid flame
well, what's your class?
wooden swallow
It's very doable at 1600.
hollow flare
blaster
turbid flame
"blaster"?
swift elbow
I play alts so I can use all the different fun skills <a:nodders:852981811251380...
I read that as skins 😭
manic quarry
blaster..?
wooden swallow
Wheelchair?
manic quarry
you mean breaker?
hollow flare
artillergist
manic quarry
oh
turbid flame
have you copied the artil guide?
and looked up the mechanics for said abyss dungeon?
manic quarry
hey, i mean blaster was actually a classname for a fist-type class
hollow flare
thier card and jewel levels are kinda
broken in tutorial haha
mines are like level 5 and 1 jewels
swift elbow
You didn’t buy any from solo shop?
turbid flame
you can always get gems from the solo shop
turbid flame
the dps checks aren't that bad though, just gotta learn your class better, and learn the fight itself
hollow flare
solo shop?
manic quarry
they're doing the plant lady fight
vagrant veldt
The guide probably also has gems which are more or less important so you don't need full Max level
swift elbow
Yah there’s a shop search it when you’re in a city
vagrant veldt
they're doing the plant lady fight
The abyssal g2?
manic quarry
plant lady
vagrant veldt
Ivory tower?
swift elbow
You can search in map top right and it shows you location of merchant
hollow flare
yeah that stupid plant lady
turbid flame
solo shop?
there's a shop that you can buy things from, with tokens you get from solo mode dungeons / raids
hollow flare
yeah i think i need it
swift elbow
It’s fairly cheap I think
vagrant veldt
yeah i think i need it
Also have you used the Skill Tree amulets to get all of your skill tripods to lv5?
swift elbow
I got all lvl 7s already
livid fossil
She’s merchant boat gas t4? 💎
swift elbow
Are they the equivalent of event gems but just made for newbies? Because I saw that you can’t fuse them
livid fossil
Has
vagrant veldt
Are they the equivalent of event gems but just made for newbies? Because I saw t...
Yes
Well idk for newbies but yes they're just like event gems
swift elbow
Yea or alts I guess
vagrant veldt
Just set auto fuse lv 8 and forget about it for a while
swift elbow
Honestly that might make me want to make an alt, since gems were always a pain in the ass
swift elbow
Just set auto fuse lv 8 and forget about it for a while
I have 2 lvls 9s and idk if I should sell to force hone or just keep them
vagrant veldt
I doubt t3 lv9s sell for much these days
swift elbow
IIRC force honing has terrible results so it’s not worth it?
vagrant veldt
What don't they convert to lv7 t4?
turbid flame
t3 lvl 9s sell for quite a bit
manic quarry
Some t3 yields higher % in some classes
swift elbow
I meant like selling for gold and buying the mats, as for the gems u can convert them yes
I think lvl 9s are 100k+? Maybe I am remembering wrong
vagrant veldt
Huh I haven't looked at market ig
swift elbow
But yeah it’s a decent amount of gold if I sold them
vagrant veldt
My only t4 char doesn't care about gem lvs that much I think
swift elbow
Considering I can get lvl 7s for free and I’m under 1600 I don’t know if they have any worth to me
vagrant veldt
Numbers are numbers I figure
swift elbow
Alternative would be to give lvl 9 to my arcana
vagrant veldt
Me when arcana
vagrant veldt
In T4 not really no
I mean like any class needs secondary DMG gems yknow
Wait for empress that is
swift elbow
Would you say it’s better to have all lvl 8s than 2 lvl 9?
vagrant veldt
That much I would not consider myself enough of an expert to speak on
swift elbow
For arcana specifically
Oh ok I’ll ask in arcana chat then
Because I know some classes it’s worth it
vagrant veldt
I think there's a couple really important CD gems?
swift elbow
At least for gunslinger the dps on shotgun made it worth to do something like that
swift elbow
I only remember seeing one but i can probably get a lot more info from arcana chat
vagrant veldt
You definitely can
swift elbow
I’m returning player and I plan to skip 442 and learn a different one, I heard 442 is the easiest so people say I should play that for a while first, is it that big of a deal?
I’m not ENTIRELY new to the class but I would be relearning
vagrant veldt
No such thing as 442
vagrant veldt
Only 8 skills
swift elbow
Something like that
turbid flame
She don’t need damage gems tho no? Only cd iirc
I mean, you want both cd and dmg
for Emp
for Emp
swift elbow
empress I played
turbid flame
Emp > Emp
swift elbow
I mean, you want both cd and dmg
I completely misunderstood then
I saw a priority and i assumed it meant I could neglect the rest
turbid flame
don't think there's a single class that wants only one gem type or the other
swift elbow
Since it was like scratch + FOAK
turbid flame
even supports want damage gems, cause they buff their... healing / shielding?
I think
vagrant veldt
I completely misunderstood then
Only mostly misunderstood I think
swift elbow
even supports want damage gems, cause they buff their... healing / shielding?
Yeah it does
jagged zinc
it buffs the efficacy of their buffs
it also buffs their healing and shielding on the respective skills but it is not used on any support except paladin's holy protection if at all
turbid flame
ahh
swift elbow
Anyways I think I go eep, thanks for the help I appreciate it! most of the things I was unsure on have been cleared up so I should be fine for now (hopefully) 
jagged zinc
so most supports run 3 damage gems, and paladin sometimes runs 4
manic quarry
even supports want damage gems, cause they buff their... healing / shielding?
identity, ap skills, and such. but most importantly the identity and ap skills is top priority
turbid flame
I remembered the wrong aspect that got buffed 
dull leaf
what is 422 empress? I think the major builds for emp these days are evoke and stream
candid lake
what is 422 empress? I think the major builds for emp these days are evoke and s...
it's really old i think
oh wait nvm im thinking of 242
lunar anvil
how many abidos is in 1 of these chests?
wooden swallow
Click buy
dull leaf
u can check the box in the package tab knstead of the first one
wooden swallow
It'll let you hover
dull leaf
I think it's 2k if u buy all 5
lunar anvil
oooo thanks
grave spindle
how to unlock them ?
i did all quests in rimeria
turbid flame
you don't yet
manic quarry
gray hearth
We released content! But you have to wait to finish finish
rose jewel
tbh i wont get mad at this, doing the continent and getting the pot is much better this way
instead of class + continent + raid at the same time
grave spindle
you don't yet
i did all quests i had on map unless there is hidden quests
turbid flame
i did all quests i had on map unless there is hidden quests
well, considering the raid + postlude aren't out
you have to wait
grave spindle
well, considering the raid + postlude aren't out
what raid ?
turbid flame
act 3?
turbid flame
maybe not exactly related
but locked till then
they're either unlocked with the raid
or in the june patch, with the postlude
livid fossil
No no
turbid flame
only gate 1 is Thaemine
livid fossil
Oh
turbid flame
yeah, G3 is Moredumb
livid fossil
Didn’t do g4 probably for the best
livid fossil
lol
turbid flame
just wait until solo Act 3 comes out in 5 years
dull leaf
is there g3 patterns? it's mostly 4-2 patterns
livid fossil
lol
manic quarry
Ah yeah it's mostly 4-2
livid fossil
I to scared o do agier
manic quarry
You shouldn't even be scared of doing aegir
You should be scared of doing aegir when there's not enough dps
livid fossil
lol
manic quarry
You should even be more scared when there's mech that you gotta do asap otherwise it's wipe
livid fossil
That’s the problem
manic quarry
Most of the time it's just stagger, dps check
livid fossil
To many do this at point or dead
And how do i know who using sidereal
Is leader of said group a and b
livid fossil
First t4 g r
manic quarry
You shouldn't even worry about who's siderealing
As long as it's not you doing it
livid fossil
I did a group raid for thaemine and then they kicked me
manic quarry
manic quarry
That doesn't really count but that's funny
livid fossil
Then the answer is never
frigid halo
do you get main quest rewards via knowledge transfer?
turbid flame
not really
you get some special things, like mounts if there were any
and things like that
but cards? mats? nah
slim beacon
anyone else having this high ping ?
vagrant veldt
I always had to siderial back in the brel1 days because nobody else wanted the responsibility
Neither did I tbh but they'd always ask who wants to and I usually didn't mess up
noble walrus
is there no longer a shop for chaos dungeons?
vast oriole
Was deleted more than 6 months ago
turbid flame
hey, that's how long i've been back to the game 
vagrant veldt
Abidos are current content I think
velvet flower
Is this updated or is there something better to use
balmy plank
Ive kept it up to date
velvet flower
Awesome thanks fam
sudden coral
Are the t3 crafting materials used for Kurzan/Rimeria collectibles? I have like 200k worth of gold saved up but wasnt sure what to sell
velvet flower
Been a blessing to have this after a 2 year break 😂😂
balmy plank
Its very simplified so other resources and guides may go more in depth on steps
Yay. Im glad its getting some use
velvet flower
Once we get new tier 4 gear
Do we have to still do the previous raids etc that level up ur gear?
I kinda skipped that part
😅
turbid flame
no
velvet flower
Kk
turbid flame
once you're in T4, and have T4 gear, Echidna, Behemoth are the two main raids for mats, early on
then Aegir once you hit 1660
otherwise it's just events, guardians, chaos dungeons
velvet flower
Perfect thanks bro
balmy plank
You may still do Echidna but thats about all. Or Thaemine/Ivory Tower but only if you havent finished Trans/Elixirs
People run Echidna still for gold
balmy plank
Progression stuff
balmy plank
Things on your gear
balmy plank
Step 13 & 14 if youre following the step by step 🫡
alpine anvil
tier 2 gems are completely useless?
alpine anvil
ok didnt know if there was hidden upgrade somewhere
velvet flower
Prob turbo garbage now
alpine anvil
yeah gem guy doesnt show them
turbid flame
velvet flower
Did they ever change anything about ability stones
Or is a 9-7 still cancer to get?
turbid flame
Still rng
velvet flower
I see
How do you know which 9-7 to get cause i see they changed honing system
If ur dps is there a certain 1 u want
balmy plank
Well for 99% of people you dont get a 9-7
Adren scales the best on stones so 9 on that would be ideal. 7 depends on your class
People still just settle for 7/6 or better yet 7/7
turbid flame
get a 10/7
velvet flower
Hm on avg does it cost to get a 9-7?
balmy plank
Stones function a little different with Ark Passive now instead of giving points like they did
velvet flower
If u were to guess
velvet flower
I see
echo atlas
I bid this ring by mistake, if I cancel the bid do I lose the pheon and get back the gold? or how does it work
balmy plank
I bid this ring by mistake, if I cancel the bid do I lose the pheon and get back...
Click cancel. Pretty sure it wont work. Unless its been changed
balmy plank
Or are u unfamiliar
zero clue. You can always get class roles from id:customize to get access to the #gunslinger chat. You could ask them what engravings scale best for that class
velvet flower
zero clue. You can always get class roles from <id:customize> to get access to t...
Ty
sacred oriole
good morning you all
some one asked me why i dont have brand on didnt understand what he meant can someone tell me what he meant
turbid flame
as a support, you want a brand ability
it debuffs enemies, makes them take more damage
sacred oriole
i was sorc
turbid flame
sacred oriole
not was i am a sorc
rose jewel
are you sure you're a sorc
sacred oriole
XD
rose jewel
and are you sure he was talking to you
sacred oriole
yea
turbid flame
do you run Blaze?
sacred oriole
we had no support in the lobby
balmy plank
Do you have the synergy tripod on? Damage Amp for Blaze. 1st tripod
sacred oriole
it was a normal gr run
turbid flame
sacred oriole
yea
minor igloo
Where brand xdd
turbid flame
sacred oriole
i was hella confused
balmy plank
Well if you have your classes synergy on then I guess we'll never know what he meant
sacred oriole
i guess so
minor igloo
The guy was probably just clueless too 
rose jewel
either he was drunk, he was talking to someone else, he's new and doesnt know shit about how classes work or look or you're drunk
sacred oriole
or thought i was a sup
minor igloo
rose jewel
anyway without any pictures or more context we have no idea about the situation or what he meant
noble walrus
Wait I can't even use the gold from clearing solo brelshaza to buy stuff off market????
turbid flame
no
rose jewel
no
turbid flame
because it's bound
velvet flower
what are the fastest ways to get silver?
rose jewel
?silver
buoyant dockBOT
Silver Sources
summer thunder
Can someone show me the rewards from this thing?
summer thunder
those seem pretty good, right?
turbid flame
For the most part, yea
gotta remember, also costs quite a bit to get to the breakpoints for the rewards
summer thunder
gotta remember, also costs quite a bit to get to the breakpoints for the rewards
have you finished the road to act 3?
autumn belfry
Im at 1600 do I keep honing to 1620?
turbid flame
yes
autumn belfry
Sigh
turbid flame
make sure to get all the books from the current event shop
turbid flame
yep
autumn belfry
What is the best farming method rn
turbid flame
do your raids that give the most gold, life skill, get lucky
autumn belfry
Life Skill by foraging etc?
autumn belfry
is excavating fine to do?
turbid flame
sure
west valley
how does life skilling give gold?
if you do them yourself with the tools not by farm they will be tradable mats that you can use via crafting or sell in units of 100.
west valley
Can someone show me the rewards from this thing?
balmy plank
I made 250k today chopping wood
summer thunder
what are people buying that for?
turbid flame
crafting
summer thunder
ty
turbid flame
lots of things
summer thunder
ships?
balmy plank
Crafting fusion materials for honing mostly
summer thunder
oh
west valley
its time efficient and can be done with a partner so its usually the preferred one to do.
summer thunder
I made 250k today chopping wood
probably high level nodes tho
turbid flame
moreso the amount of potions available
summer thunder
its time efficient and can be done with a partner so its usually the preferred o...
I see people asking for loggers in the chat
but probably want 1640
turbid flame
than high level nodes
balmy plank
Just lots. 140k of it was basic rarity stuff you get anywhere
west valley
probably high level nodes tho
tier 4 materials sell for alot.. u can even dust them and convert them and sell them all tier 4 for more profit.
summer thunder
I'm tier 3
turbid flame
just hone to 1620, ez 😏
west valley
I'm tier 3
i been pushing u to hit tier 4 but remember your goals
summer thunder
just hone to 1620, ez 😏
how much does this cost gold wise if I have all the materials?
turbid flame
what are you at now?
summer thunder
1610
summer thunder
86k gold?
turbid flame
yes
summer thunder
yea that's too much
turbid flame
once you get to t4, you get lots more gold opportunities
summer thunder
you guys have been telling me that every 10 levels...
once you get to 1600, 1610, 1620...
turbid flame
I mean, when you hit a new raid you can do, generally it gives more gold than previous raids you had available
summer thunder
I'll be at 1640 and u guys will be like just push to 1700 and you'll see big gold
turbid flame
I mean, honestly, with gatekeeping, it is more like 1660 now
but 1640 is a fairly good jump in gold / week
if you wanna park at 1610 forever tho, then go for it, not in the mood to argue
summer thunder
what does this assume in terms of books?
turbid flame
87 armor books, but the current event gives lots of books
summer thunder
darn, so that assumes you're using books
but ig it's not accounting for my enhanced ones
summer thunder
maybe these will bring the cost down
turbid flame
they will
summer thunder
Is it a good strat to use the normal books for my level 17 staff and save the enhanced for my level 18 honing?
noble walrus
Wait these event "Kurzan Front Aura of Resonance" pots work for both Kurzan Front and Chaos Dungeons?
balmy plank
Wait these event "Kurzan Front Aura of Resonance" pots work for both Kurzan Fron...
yes
noble walrus
Cause if so I guess I probably should have bought those first 
balmy plank
kurzan front = chaos dungeon
alpine anvil
which wildsoul build works best for a ratty alt? its 1585 rn
noble walrus
Reset is in 3 hours?
balmy plank
?reset
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noble walrus
3.5 okay yeah
turbid flame
Is it a good strat to use the normal books for my level 17 staff and save the en...
don't think it matters "too" much, just as long as you're using books if you have them remember, remember tho, gotta get up to +19 on everything
summer thunder
yea so 2 levels per gear
I have 9 enhanced weapon books, 47 enhanced armor
40 normal weapon books and 140 normal armor books
but can buy more if needed
noble walrus
no way man I have to play a typing game to do brelshaza?
turbid flame
yes
noble walrus
Time to quit again
turbid flame
also, i'd maybe use the refund books first, cause what if you just get lucky and 1-2 tap the pieces
the Brel typing test isn't even that bad
G2 and 3 both have one
noble walrus
Can't do g2 g3 brelshaza, can't do g3 kaya
turbid flame
You can practice typing tests in Trixion, i'm p. sure
balmy plank
Not typing tests. There is a website to do that tho
noble walrus
it's not about being bad at typing, it's the principle
balmy plank
Kakul Mario's. Thae clashes. Prokel
noble walrus
typing game for a raid is bedge
turbid flame
Well, then don't play the game, not sure what to tell you
noble walrus
I'm good at typing I spend so much time yapping on discord
turbid flame
you seem to not want to play, since you keep bringing up things that are on the verge of making you quit
if you're not enjoying the game, don't play
turbid flame
Kakul Mario's. Thae clashes. Prokel
wtf is a prokel
balmy plank
Prokel was the original G2 of Brel 1.0
turbid flame
oic
balmy plank
Before G2 and G5 were removed
noble walrus
I'm gonna give it a shot against my better judgement
these are a lot of words though man
balmy plank
It was a 1 on 1 boss fight while and outside team of 7 fought his head
Trixion has the 1 on 1. It's actually not bad for practicing a new class
balmy plank
Sure thing yea. Top right will tell you what mats are available there
turbid flame
died at 112 bars
noble walrus
???? I finished the minigame and got "success" but died anyway
balmy plank
died at 112 bars <a:nodders:852981811251380244>
the trixion fight was harder than the real one too
summer thunder
idk where the relics are hiding on this map...
west valley
idk where the relics are hiding on this map...
what are you trying to farm?
summer thunder
what are you trying to farm?
relics
west valley
are you in a zone that has relics for excavating?
summer thunder
I'm in the jack of all trades zone
west valley
???? I finished the minigame and got "success" but died anyway
which raid? have you reviewed a video?
west valley
I'm in the jack of all trades zone
use this on your action bar.
summer thunder
ah forgot about sonar
noble walrus
I did it second try 
it was g2 brel
I didn't know about the stagger ty @turbid flame I finished it too slow the first time
west valley
i would suggest to review a video if you havent .. it wil make the run easier.
west valley
I'm reading guide
guide is fine video is better for visual aspects
g3 you'll need to know what colours the (cube boss) does for each if u get to many stacks getting knocked out or giving the cube stacks or failing stagger it will wipe/ or getting hit by blue pattern failed typing test its a 1 shot @noble walrus
summer thunder
@noble walrus I would suggest just having fun w it and learning as you go
These guys push the video thing too hard imo
turbid flame
I mean, in general, looking at guides are recommended, because a lot of players try the fight, see mechanic, never learn said mechanic, and then just get frustrated and quit
west valley
<@246063220421427201> I would suggest just having fun w it and learning as you g...
"these guys?" are the ones teaching you common sense, no one is pushing anyone hard.. You're the one that needs to write more letters to support why the game is not in your best interest.
summer thunder
I really wouldn't be surprised at all if they were getting monetization kickbacks
west valley
I really wouldn't be surprised at all if they were getting monetization kickback...
Not because the way you think. its for other reasons.
vagrant veldt
what do i do with all my honing mats chests? im earning gold way slower than i could ever hope to spend on the mats
turbid flame
save em
balmy plank
what do i do with all my honing mats chests? im earning gold way slower than i c...
Put them in storage for a rainy day
balmy plank
Honing session. Class release
summer thunder
getting close guys!
balmy plank
Right, today isnt the rainy day. Save for when it is
summer thunder
what do I do w these things?
turbid flame
adventure tome
vagrant veldt
make millennium soup
summer thunder
ah ty
vagrant veldt
i use the maxroll adv tome guides but im sure theres other ways to do it
summer thunder
is this relic icon suppose to glow green or something?
literally 0 relics on this map
ah it pulses
found 1
weary oyster
can i add friend from different server like thaemine and brelshaza??? and i do chaos dungeon together if invite them as party??
dull leaf
u cant invite others to party, u need to set up in party finder if it's across servers
weary oyster
u cant invite others to party, u need to set up in party finder if it's across s...
oh nó
turbid flame
So im at 1600 gear level what do I grind cause I just got here
you can now do Ivory tower
turbid flame
astral flower
Just completed the "Guide" quest "Collecting Collectibles for Fun" with a friend. I got 5 exp trade skill potions but my friend didn't. Was wondering why this was? I am a returning player if that changes things
disregard, figured it out
turbid flame
so, see the bottom part for example
autumn belfry
Yea
turbid flame
that's 10 points, you have 5 pieces of gear that can have elixirs
the set, in that case, Critical
has bonuses for 35 set and 40 set
you need an avg of 8 per piece
turbid flame
ivory tower
autumn belfry
Do I buy the extra chest for this
turbid flame
you can, forget exactly how to get them, I always just used ones from events since they cost silver
been so long since I ran ivory
autumn belfry
Taking these dont affect the rewards I've always just been going This Is Me
So idrk
turbid flame
they don't influence the rewards, no, may as well make the run easier tho
summer thunder
how do I get enlightenment points on this ring?
turbid flame
refine it
although don't refine below 67 qual
just use the relic till you find ancient w/ 67+ qual
autumn belfry
This is best armor I can have rn right?
unborn hedge
whats is the best way for the rings? mid/mid or high?
summer thunder
this right?
noble walrus
is it not possible to move an ability stone to an alt?
turbid flame
if it's already cut, no
noble walrus
it's not but I can't put it in account storage
turbid flame
you have to mail it
noble walrus
ohhh ty
summer thunder
guys, I think I have a big problem
I'm missing my charm
how do I get another one?
proper ginkgo
I'm missing my charm
is in ur universal storage
summer thunder
is in ur universal storage
wow, ur right!
what's the crafting guy called for this?
turbid flame
alchemist on map iirc
summer thunder
yea ty
slate geyser
im rich
turbid flame
noble walrus
it's not possible for me to go from 1570 to 1640 before this road to act 3 event ends is it
turbid flame
not unless you powerpass, tbh
cause once you get to 1580, you need to spend 5 weeks doing Akkan
dusky pendant
Hey, can somebody help me, couldnt upgrade the pet - because its sent out - what does it mean?
pulsar fiber
Hey i got a question how do i have trusted status ?
turbid flame
Hey i got a question how do i have trusted status ?
?trusted
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dusky pendant
remove it from the regen / making cookies area
thy, but he is not regen oder baking := removed all from this
turbid flame
swift elbow
do i not hone past lvl 19 brel?
turbid flame
nope
swift elbow
(it says something about akkan)
dull leaf
at +19 brel all pieces, ull be 1580 and can challenge akkan to get his gear
swift elbow
oh ok just wanted to make sure since my wep is 19 and the rest of my gear is 15 lol, i didnt want to overhone
turbid flame
yeah, stick to +19
calm vessel
Once you start going past 19 it starts costing you gold. instead go towards akkan gear. this will move your honing level to +12 once more and you'll get free item level, better chances & less material costs @swift elbow
swift elbow
what ilvl would i hit if i had all akkan gear?
turbid flame
1585
calm vessel
its + 0,83 per piece
turbid flame
then hone that to +19, and you hit 1620
swift elbow
thanks :D
any idea where i can find info on what gems arcana empress uses? the guides i followed have upgrade priority but dont tell me the actual gems like cd/atk
vagrant veldt
the triangle ones are attack and the circle ones are cd
turbid flame
guides 1000000% do
vagrant veldt
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17BVWNmCHPnBxTFybEkJxkxw8xoFtGjEpdKzhIrPoIJQ/...
"full 8" means youre upping dmg gems to 8 at that point otherwise theyre cd gems in prio order im fairly certain
wooden swallow
I told you what they are lol
vagrant veldt
then xerenity is right
swift elbow
Attack on reds, CD on everything.
Oh I just saw this thx
vagrant veldt
reds are your only damage skills in empress
wooden swallow
You only really care about putting attack on rain and celestial.
vagrant veldt
other dmg doesnt matter
wooden swallow
Four is honestly trash, but it's a filler.
wet moss
Does Anyone remember which 8 Ignea Tokens where the easyiest to get?
wooden swallow
Sorry, not celestial. I think it's serendipity.
wet moss
I remember there was a list but cant find it
wooden swallow
Lemme just check names so I'm not bsing
vagrant veldt
in the main guide 440 stream dps distribution is like all non-ruin damage added together is like 1.5%
wooden swallow
spare ibex
Can someone tell me if Valtan/Vykas gear set is even worth it? From what i can see, it would make my stats go down due to it having 0 quality. I am current at 1490
vagrant veldt
the dmg prio order is Rain, Garden, FoaK, Seren
vagrant veldt
Can someone tell me if Valtan/Vykas gear set is even worth it? From what i can s...
it will not make your stats go down
minor igloo
gear transfer 
vagrant veldt
you will have to do gear transfer tho
wooden swallow
Rain = Garden, the other two are fillers, so it doesn't matter.
spare ibex
it will not make your stats go down
After gear transfer it is showing the stats going down by ~500
vagrant veldt
After gear transfer it is showing the stats going down by ~500
thats fine you can get the quality back
from solo shop buy the
what are they called again?
enhanced chaos stones or something
vagrant veldt
yeah those ones
spare ibex
Ye, i got a few of them, but it costs like 300 gold per quality roll and im kinda close to being broke
wooden swallow
Names are hard, man.
spare ibex
Raids at this lvl earn like 0 gold
vagrant veldt
Ye, i got a few of them, but it costs like 300 gold per quality roll and im kind...
you got the wrong one then
the red and blue stones let you roll quality at 0 gold
but it wont work on your purple rarity set, gotta be the Valtan/Vykas gear
spare ibex
oh processed chaos stones
vagrant veldt
(Also relic gear give you more Evolution points which are way way more valuable than whatever base stats are on the armor)
spare ibex
Will the quality be kept when moving to the next gear set?
vagrant veldt
yes
i think it carries through transfers all the way to current content
wait does it transfer from t3-t4?
wooden swallow
Yeah.
spare ibex
Btw, are alts worth it at this stage in the game? Main is 1490, second char 1455
wooden swallow
No.
spare ibex
Do i just focus on main, or try to bring the alt up? Or third char
vagrant veldt
alts are never "worth it" in a strict value sense
wooden swallow
You want to get out of t3 asap.
spare ibex
You want to get out of t3 asap.
Wouldnt another solo token earning char speed that up?
vagrant veldt
you gotta spend resources to gget them to the point where they can even do solo raids
spare ibex
I am kinda starved for a lot of the items in solo shop, my main has like lvl 3 gems for some reason
Really dont remember what i was doing with it 2 years ago
wooden swallow
Don't fall for the funnel bait.
vagrant veldt
have you been playing on purple rarity gear in 1490 btw?
vagrant veldt
Really dont remember what i was doing with it 2 years ago
solo shop didnt exist 2 years ago
spare ibex
have you been playing on purple rarity gear in 1490 btw?
I had legendary gear
vagrant veldt
ah argos
still absolutely swap it for valtan/vykas
the evolution points are worth a bunch immediately
spare ibex
At what point are alts worth it? Since it seems like you run out of content with decent rewards quite fast just on 1 char
wooden swallow
Show him the calculator.
rotund dagger
just hit 50 on my first character is it better to use maxroll or the guides in this discord?
vagrant veldt
theyll be about the same tbh
spare ibex
Another question - it seems like the tripod system will be reworked soon due to them giving out the lvl 5 amulets for free, anything i should do to prepare for it?
vagrant veldt
just hit 50 on my first character is it better to use maxroll or the guides in t...
any guides you see are doing a lot of stuff you probably dont have access to
so the things you can set are like skills, which should be more or less the same
rotund dagger
yeah I am just confused as to what to do, especially when it comes to the stronghold stuff and the cards
I got a lot of rewards
vagrant veldt
Another question - it seems like the tripod system will be reworked soon due to ...
hard to say but for now just take advantege of free lv 5 tripods
rotund dagger
do I just rush through the story to punika and not worry about daily guardian and chaos dungeon runs?
wooden swallow
At what point are alts worth it? Since it seems like you run out of content with...
You can see for yourself if they're worth it.
vagrant veldt
do I just rush through the story to punika and not worry about daily guardian an...
you have to do the chaos dungeon once to get the upgraded gear at the minimum
rotund dagger
yeah I did that already I am at ilevel 500 or whatever
do I start honing on this gear?
vagrant veldt
but if you have the resources and dont need to play dungeons for materials I would say go for it
vagrant veldt
do I start honing on this gear?
yes
spare ibex
Are there any decent ways to earn gold at lower ilvl?
I guess life skills, but im not sure which one to focus on - or are they about the same?
vagrant veldt
?gold
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Gold Sources
summer thunder
vagrant veldt
gotta have water to use the purifier on
summer thunder
ah
wooden swallow
I guess life skills, but im not sure which one to focus on - or are they about t...
Market dependent.
spare ibex
Market dependent.
Would the resource gain be similar for all life skills - for example, could i expect to gain the same ammount of the trade skill material per energy spent on all of them?
vagrant veldt
i think its about equivalent per energy (give or take) but the market value of each material will vary
wooden swallow
Someone probably knows. That person ain't me.
I went for time efficiency in t3 myself.
swift elbow
should i pay extra gold to hone with books (off market) to akkan or just spam mats and silver?
i think the books are relatively cheap? so just wondering
feral briar
I think you can get some books from event shop
swift elbow
its like 50-60g per book
swift elbow
I think you can get some books from event shop
theyre all 1600 the ones i can see at least
feral briar
Oh
wooden swallow
Don't you only get like 200g from your raids? 
swift elbow
only books i saw useable were in solo shop
swift elbow
Don't you only get like 200g from your raids? <:Weirdga:905213052276862986>
i had a ton of skins i got like 30k gold atm
wooden swallow
30k ain't shit boo
swift elbow
when a book costs 50g i feel like its plausible?
wooden swallow
I know what you said, lol
I still feel the money is better saved to push to t4.
Especially when you gain basically nothing.
swift elbow
fair
wooden swallow
What're you rushing for?
swift elbow
fun i guess?
i want to play newer content
i have 1.6k hours and i stopped playing around brel time
so the older raids i've done plenty of
wooden swallow
Even if you did, could you afford the push?
rotund dagger
so I a got the shadowhunter to 50 and I am not sure if I like it too much plus I am on 200 ping so getting hit feels really rough. I am thinking of swapping to a berserker, theres no free power pass right now right so the only option would be to spend 30 bucks or level from scratch?
spare ibex
so I a got the shadowhunter to 50 and I am not sure if I like it too much plus I...
I am not sure when exactly it unlocks, but if you can unlock knowledge transfer, it would be much less painful
wooden swallow
Zerker won't fix your issue.
spare ibex
With knowledge transfer in your stronghold, you would spend like 600g to go to lvl 50 instantly
rotund dagger
Zerker won't fix your issue.
yeah I know I just didnt like the playstyle of the class as well
swift elbow
maybe not full push but i can probably make 100k+ gold at least, i wanted to push to akkan because i only played to brel so akkan+kaya are smth new
wooden swallow
That's fine, but know that Zerker won't make your problem better.
You can check the calculator to see if it's worth it to you.
swift elbow
ivory tower is at ilvl 1600?
rotund dagger
I havent spent any of my materials doing anything yet I just hit level 50 yesterday did one chaos dungeon and stopped hahaha
limpid aurora
ivory tower is at ilvl 1600?
yes
swift elbow
Rain = Garden, the other two are fillers, so it doesn't matter.
does this mean put it on rain + garden, and the other 2 just pick any?
wooden swallow
Serendipity is better than FoaK.
vagrant veldt
well its not pick any you only have 2 damage spells left after rain and garden
swift elbow
is there any other ways to get solo mode tokens once my weekly raids are done? or are they specifically tied to raids
swift elbow
well its not pick any you only have 2 damage spells left after rain and garden
i meant any from them 2 
swift elbow
is there any other ways to get solo mode tokens once my weekly raids are done? o...
also would i get any for doing a solo raid even if theres no gold reward on it or does it not count?
thorny heath
idk try it
doesn't hurt
just make sure to uncheck the gold reward if you haven't done your top 3 highest gold earning raids yet
swift elbow
oki, was just asking to see incase someone already knew
swift elbow
just make sure to uncheck the gold reward if you haven't done your top 3 highest...
they already done thats why i was askin but tnx
thorny heath
the only thing that's weird
is that group normal or hard mode
also gives solo tokens
didn't expect that, why do i get solo tokens if i'm not doing solo content
but ok
swift elbow
yeah i saw that in gate rwards, you get more from group actually
since u can do hard mode
hearty kraken
also would i get any for doing a solo raid even if theres no gold reward on it o...
yes, you do get solo coins even if you get no gold
summer thunder
found some crewmates! finally!
vagrant veldt
astray crewmates when?
real sail
just return, i have los 30, only dps roaster, what should i select and open from this
limpid aurora
last
somber coral
hi new plyaer.. 1600 item level artiliterst. whats better? and should i reroll?
vagrant veldt
hi new plyaer.. 1600 item level artiliterst. whats better? and should i reroll?
You can always ask in your character channel as well but I recall the good artil build is Spec and that's the only real damage line between both bracelets I think
somber coral
thanks
vagrant veldt
(That is to say neither is really a good bracelet)
primal herald
are we also getting a new region with the new raid in a few weeks?
north rimeria maybe?
pure basin
dont think so, think south rimeria is already set for the new raid
primal herald
i c
pure basin
south rimeria is definitely missing some npcs so probably not a full transition yet, so its a prequel to north rimeria
rotund dagger
(sorry for brightness) why does the game keep telling me to use the worse stats for the accessories?
pure basin
(sorry for brightness) why does the game keep telling me to use the worse stats ...
does it show the arrow like this? this signifies its better
rotund dagger
yes
still imp
why is this hard to get bloodclaw from dispatch? since reset i didn't get it
manic quarry
It's considered "better" when it offers higher flat stats
cyan kiln
why is this hard to get bloodclaw from dispatch? since reset i didn't get it
Well you have 8 more days to get it at the soonest.
manic quarry
In the early runs of course you'd want something that offers a higher stat
hearty kraken
(sorry for brightness) why does the game keep telling me to use the worse stats ...
the one you have equipped probably has worse base stats without quality. The game simply doesnt evalue quality but just higher ilvls
lavish mortar
(sorry for brightness) why does the game keep telling me to use the worse stats ...
Probably your second earring slot is worse than the new one
trail wigeon
aaa bound gold?
limpid aurora
there should be a command to explain it all
but good that you understood it so
at this point I don't even know, what is worse. Me still not knowing all the commands or not having a list of them pinned to the channel
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