lost-ark-help

[rose jewel]

yes

[livid fossil]

Yes

[twilit nest]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-why-pepe-the-frog-sad-crying-gif-16026853

welp 18-set it is

[rose jewel]

they probably will get us another 24 set with fem pal

[livid fossil]

Couldn’t you get more by getting cards from merchants

[obsidian valve]

and don't forget about event shop

[drowsy rapids]

Hey! Could I get some help on how auto-dismantling amulets work? I want to keep and learn all tripods for my class and dismantle the ones that have 3 non-transferable tripods because I already unlocked their max level. Is there any way to do that? I've been messing with the auto dismantle settings but it seems to dismantle amulets even with the missing tripod mark

[livid fossil]

I would like to raid but this sun keeps shining through blinding me lol

[turbid flame]

https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/resources/gear-progression-guide this still works for the most part, just some things are... optional

like, on tier 3 midgame tab for example, notice how it still mentions the purple gear at 1415

[upper urchin]

I made a ticket, I never got my problems solved when contacting a video game support.
I hope they could help. I gave all the information I could

[rose jewel]

brother, tripods are getting a massive change and they are literally worthless now, you can dismantle ALL amulets, go to the skill transfer NPC and buy your 50 weekly guaranteed lv5 tripods for 1 silver each

[drowsy rapids]

Gotcha! Im a returning player so I still thought they were somewhat relevant 😅

[rose jewel]

this info is 1 day old so

youre just in time i guess

well more like 3 days old but whatever

[turbid flame]

akshully, two days old, since patch day is wednesday

[rose jewel]

details details

[outer mason]

anyone got the loot table for 1700 kurzan front, ebony cube, or chaos gate?

[livid fossil]

lol

[burnt quiver]

i need helpo regarding elixir sets

[turbid flame]

ok

[burnt quiver]

do i go for glove elixir crit (chaos) i put this to gloves and for helm i do crit (order) one right?

[turbid flame]

does your class want crit?

[burnt quiver]

any tips? i never did any elixir so far i just read the guide from maxroll

[turbid flame]

optimally, every piece will have one common + one other needed

if you wanted to work on gloves, then yea, pick critical (chaos)

[burnt quiver]

so i focus on one common maxing and one set maxing while doing an elixir right?

[jagged zinc]

maxroll info

[turbid flame]

I mean, for super basic, it's not too inaccurate, is it?

[jagged zinc]

no wonder everyone thinks weapon is better than main stat

i was wondering where that idea came from

[dreamy bluff]

imma steal this

[turbid flame]

yeah, you'd want to try and maximize both the common effect + the special effect

[jagged zinc]

no everythings right except the first line

[turbid flame]

for whatever piece you're working on

oic

[burnt quiver]

any tips before i start doing glove elixir?

[dreamy bluff]

yea those are the best options to go after

[turbid flame]

get lucki

[dreamy bluff]

get lucky and hope its the correct set piece. if its not move on to next elixir

if you're super lucky you might get the set and a good common

[burnt quiver]

apparently game allows me to choose one effect and others and random so for this i will focus on crit glove thing and mp ig right?

[dreamy bluff]

yea. mainly focus on the critical for this one

but in the end its rng. so pray

[burnt quiver]

alr thankss needed that clarification

[dreamy bluff]

you can only do one set per piece. so if your going critical and your only getting glove and sholder roles, then rip

[burnt quiver]

this is the result and i need gold to continue what you guys think so far

[young garden]

can i get gold from solo ivory tower if im 1640+? I feel like i remember seeing something in that range got gold restricted idk

[dreamy bluff]

yes

Kayangel is the last raid that has a max iLevel limit(1640). so akkan and onwards are free game for 1640+

[young garden]

ohhh ok it was kayangel not tower. ty

[dreamy bluff]

its pretty good. not sure how many rolls you have left but it should be enough if ur lucky and it goses into mana or evasion

[west valley]

at this point you always want to take the raids that are to your ilevel

1640 HM Thae / Echidna HM / Behemoth. for gold efficiency.

[dreamy bluff]

you can check this for the raids that you can do and how much gold they give in solo/normal/hard
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z63hd2RolhcT6UMoSbuWejYi6dxBJ2wiWnz-AUNNEpQ/edit?gid=972540646#gid=972540646

[burnt quiver]

6 or 7 i think

[dreamy bluff]

danm that alot. although you got unlucky with the shoulder and chest roll being present, it should be enough to maybe get a 5/3 minimum

[livid fossil]

what gems does teh chaos skills use for db lke how many CD and dmg

buid

[turbid flame]

just use your raid setup gems

chaos dungeons are absurdly easy, don't need speical gems

[rose wren]

ugly minmax

[cyan kiln]

Or just buy solo shop gems and use for chaos

[dreamy bluff]

most of the skills u use in raid build, you gonna be using in chaos either way

[twilit nest]

what auto dismantle settings to put in?

[cyan kiln]

I use almost none of the raid skills in chaos

[young garden]

i was referring to solo mode, my main is very boosted

[livid fossil]

what relic book should i get adreline or ambush or

[turbid flame]

Adrenaline, but are you talking about spending gold, or a selector?

[livid fossil]

its free

in chest

[turbid flame]

which?

[livid fossil]

selctor chest

[turbid flame]

do you have 5 selectors?

[livid fossil]

no

[turbid flame]

then just save imo

[livid fossil]

k

[turbid flame]

maybe you'll luck into books to finish the set, at some point

i.e. you get an ambush master drop or two

then could argue to go that over adren

[rose wren]

thought u know lich...

[turbid flame]

[livid fossil]

was trying to clear out inventory

got booted

we in matinece again

[rose jewel]

the rest is irrelevant imo

[livid fossil]

didnt we just fix this lol

wth

[eager glen]

[rose wren]

who knows what it be, was whole region dead last time

site show 2

[solar heart]

ffs, can't even do raids this week i guess, -300k gold

[alpine anvil]

bruh

[dreamy bluff]

bruh

[livid fossil]

Let’s hope it not all day

[dreamy bluff]

i was mid elixing

[livid fossil]

Great

[latent python]

just started a cube

[livid fossil]

[latent python]

and then kicked T-T

[inner shard]

i was doing rimeria

[west valley]

Given you're used to solo mode you should go outside of solomode and take advantage of more rewards.

[formal radish]

server up?

[west valley]

no

[livid fossil]

Server 💀

[rose wren]

welp

[burnt quiver]

guys do i have to seal crit to be able to use?

my first time doing elixir

[livid fossil]

Don’t seal the one you want

[vast oriole]

Seal = delete the effect

[turbid flame]

sealing = get rid of

[burnt quiver]

alr thank you

[dreamy bluff]

basically seal the stuff you dont want

[rose jewel]

im glad i only type here, official general is obnoxious af

off topic

on topic: reroll once and seal MP

[dreamy bluff]

that being said, im sorry. i cant belive so many went into those 2 garbage effects

use the roll

[burnt quiver]

guys i got an uncompleted elixir which i dislike quite a lot how can i deal with it

dismantle?

[livid fossil]

If it’s event toss

If you made them dismantle

[dreamy bluff]

its its the one u just made. dismentle/throw it away if you already have a btter one equiped @burnt quiver

[burnt quiver]

im doing another one and not going well

[dreamy bluff]

if you dont have a better one. use it

[rose jewel]

if you have the event 4/4, your goal is a 5/2 or higher

preferaby 5/3, but you can make do if you get another one at 5/4 or 5/5

the goal is 40 set with the good options at lv5

[burnt quiver]

frist one i made is 5/3 i will use it i guess and idk how to get event ones

[rose jewel]

from the event shops

[burnt quiver]

info about imbuing elixirs? there are 3 slots for each piece

is it free to change elixirs anytime

[balmy plank]

Yes

You can have 3 saved on each piece. You can swap between them freely

[burnt quiver]

alr thanks

btw i had purple lifeskill thing but its gone where can i find it

like this

[balmy plank]

Well your things are already better so you must have upgraded already

[burnt quiver]

this is not mine i took ss fdrom another player

[manic quarry]

[peak meteor]

Where are the raid tickets?

[dreamy bluff]

and what do you mean by its gone?

[balmy plank]

Well if you havent equip it, its probably in your inventory somewhere. Check char inventory, pet inventory storage etc

[balmy plank]

Thats a question for ags

?support

[buoyant dock]

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[dreamy bluff]

if its not in your mail talk to ags or wait a little bit

[alpine anvil]

grand prix is 1x per day for whole roster?

[rose jewel]

i believe so

like always

[vast oriole]

Yes

[livid fossil]

servers bac up

[shrewd ore]

How do i activate lvl2 of master elixir? it says that the level sum has to be 40. where does that 40 come from?

[turbid flame]

5 pieces of gear, elixirs on each

[shrewd ore]

oh the sum of all of the elixirs has to be 40?

[turbid flame]

can get a total of 50

10 on each of the 5 pieces

[shrewd ore]

so minimum 4 x 4 on each gear

[rose jewel]

5/3 preferably

[shrewd ore]

5/3 is better?

[rose jewel]

as you want the actual good ones to be 5 for a better effect

[turbid flame]

the good effects, if possible, you want as 5

that gives you wiggle room to have the other be 3

[shrewd ore]

i see.

and its still atk power > main stat > wp power right?

[rose jewel]

for dps i believe so

[shrewd ore]

ty for the info 🙂

[eternal venture]

are there two legendary wealth runes or only one?

[vast oriole]

1

[thorny heath]

is there / how much of a difference is weapon power % vs attack power % when it comes to accessories?

single high earrings attack power % are currently about 100k vs weapon % at 150k

(also should i decide for one on both slots or can i mix and match? increasing weapon power in % twice sounds better than half both but i might be wrong)

[upper urchin]

im a returning player, can anyoe remind me if there is a way to get a powerpass?

[balmy plank]

There is currently no free powerpass available

It just expired

[upper urchin]

oh alright

thanks

[maiden locust]

does anyone know when lagoon island starts for lar kaya

[rose jewel]

who is that

check your ingame calendar

[maiden locust]

a boss i need to kill to get legendary wealth

[rose jewel]

we aint memorizing the names of the bosses, just the islands

but again check your ingame calendar

click on a day, select islands, check if the island is today

if not, check other days

[undone copper]

how much rapport does ghin have

[rose jewel]

as much as you rizz him

[vast oriole]

9 leg items

[rose jewel]

18k or so

[undone copper]

ty

[abstract dirge]

do wandering trade ships only spawn on the top of every hour at X:00 and stay for 30 min or can they spawn on X:30 too ?

[magic grove]

i bought an ability stone and cut it

i dont see the option to upgrade it at the vendor

is there like a cooldown

for newly cut

[rose jewel]

show a screen of the stone

[magic grove]

this one in my inventory

not popping up

[gray hearth]

is that the ability stone from the express? wouldn't be upgradeable would need one you had drop

[magic grove]

no bought fresh from ah

and cut

[paper walrus]

you need to finish cutting it to upgrade it

also its already t4 you cant

upgrade it

its at max

[vast oriole]

No its not t4

Its t3

[gray hearth]

the left one

[magic grove]

oh u cant upgrade t4 anymore?

[vast oriole]

Ah

[magic grove]

its maximum power

ic

[paper walrus]

upgrade is only for vitality

[vast oriole]

I thought u meant the t3 stone

Not the t4

[paper walrus]

there is no vit upgrade for t4 stones

[magic grove]

ah

[vast oriole]

Anyways i wouldnt keep that stone

Get at least 6/7

[magic grove]

while u guys are here is a 2 2 better than 3 1

[vast oriole]

This is better

[magic grove]

alrighty ty

making all my characters use same stones

preping for them relic books

[visual zephyr]

is there a calc that converts life skill energy to gold depending on market price and life skill done?

[quick linden]

with rimeria is hunting becoming the best t4 tradeskill ?

[livid fossil]

trans seems to be bugging out

[smoky scroll]

How so

[magic grove]

any idea how many free relic engraving selector ags gave out so far

[balmy plank]

8 I believe

Well "free"

[livid fossil]

I clicked the button and it was grey and then it showed the movement

[balmy plank]

A few have been in the cash shop for not so cheap

[livid fossil]

A second after I clicked it

It liked lagged out

[weary oyster]

idk why lost ark lagging so hard , meanwhile i can watch youtube at 2k

dude this game wont let me do cube omg

i can still upload an image brou, my internet is not wrong

[timber mauve]

This channel isn’t for complaining.

[weary oyster]

[magic grove]

where this spawn if anyone knows

[gray hearth]

between :00 to :33 can spawn at these islands

[magic grove]

oh lord

time to set an alt

[pure basin]

is there a way to get life energy potions without BC?

[gray hearth]

every other event shop has them, sometimes ark pass does, they aren't super common hand out rewards

[slim beacon]

is this good ?

[paper walrus]

pinned

[west charm]

hi guys i just reached 1620 and im not sure what i should do first

i keep seeing this advanced honing thing and that if i have mats i should do it in tier 3

[pure basin]

get 1640 by doing kenuart fortess and swapping ur gear

[pure basin]

https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/resources/lost-ark-tier-4-checklist
u can follow this guide

[balmy plank]

There is also a step by step in the pinned comments if you're looking for the next step in progression

[west charm]

what about advanced honing before transfering to t4, is it still viable?

but thanks guys

[pure basin]

only if u have like ALOT of mats otherwise its better to go t4

[balmy plank]

Use shards to temper gear if you have them. Every mat but shards can convert to tier 4.

Don't delay going to t4 over it tho if you don't have mats

[west charm]

sorry im not too sure if what a lot of mats is can i maybe share some of the mats i have stashed up

i have 1.7 mil shards is that a lot?

honor ones

and i have quite a lot of chests stacked up but it seems like most of them are pretty old ones

[balmy plank]

That's a good amount

[pure basin]

i would refer to maxroll's adv. honing calculator

[west charm]

okay

should i just open these chests then

and check

my total

[balmy plank]

No

[pure basin]

for example if ur trying for 1-10 this is the amount u would need on avg, if u dont have this much i would go up

[west charm]

i should calculate how many i can get first then? fomr the chests

honestly these chests are bothering me

been sitting here forever

[pure basin]

if ur gated by gold u should go up as well. the gold generation in t3 raids is significantly lower than t4 raids

[west charm]

im definitely gated by gold

[balmy plank]

There is no rule of law here. Use your shards in tier 3 if you can. Don't delay going to tier 4 if you don't have extra mats.
That's all there is to it. All mats can convert to tier 4. These boxes don't become useless

[west charm]

except shards then

but i cant use these shards without mats

so they're useless

am i right

[pure basin]

you can always save them for when theres a character pass event, or when ur main is in a comfortable spot for you and u wanna work on an alt

[balmy plank]

Tempering only costs shards

[west charm]

oh it's a new thing

i thought tempering meant honing

[hearty kraken]

tempering isnt new

it is honing

[west charm]

oh

[balmy plank]

You temper the gear to unlock 1-10 with shards and raid mats. Then you hone like normalish

[hearty kraken]

its filling up the gauge to 100%

[west charm]

like the step before honing

hmm ok

[jaunty token]

do you get less gold for running solo legion raids then with a party?

[turbid flame]

yes, but, gl finding a full party

[jaunty token]

yeah i took a break for a year but that makes sense, thank you!

[turbid flame]

until T4, it's mostly solo tbh

the gold is fairly close, in most of the cases, you just get unbound instead of bound gold, so that is one perk

there's a chart of raid gold by difficulty in the pins

[teal heart]

I’m a solo player and I only intend to use my Life Skills to craft Oreha Fusion for myself. It's more efficient to spend Life Skill energy manually rather than using the farm, right? Is there any Life Skill I should prioritize for that?

[turbid flame]

uh, unless you have a mass of unbound gold, you "have" to use the stronghold farm

see: ?boundoreha

?boundoreha

[buoyant dock]

Why can't I craft Oreha? I have all the materials!
You don't have the correct type of gold. To craft tradeable items (including Oreha), you need to pay the crafting cost with Unbound gold. The alternative way to craft Orehas with Bound gold is to unlock the farm at Stronghold level 10 and craft bound Orehas with the farm materials.
-# You can check what activities drop unbound gold with ?gold
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/454949598692376577/1282651373824901131/image.png?ex=66e021ae&is=66ded02e&hm=4e97629b3072eda5c073a94a954159ef1c8011528711716f03aebc5ae5951f41&

[turbid flame]

the gold you get from Unas and what not is bound, same with gold from solo raids

[hearty kraken]

the gold you get from unas is bound though?

[jaunty token]

Thanks Gari!

[turbid flame]

that's what I said?

[last bough]

Where do I get this happy harvesting thing done?

I cant figure it out and cant search it

[hearty kraken]

I read "not is bound" as "is not bound". sorry I cant read

[turbid flame]

I can see why the "and what not" can be confusing

since I then went to list the solo raids

[teal heart]

Oh shit you're right, my bad. I'll use the farm then, thanks!

[jaunty token]

so for bound gold you can't use it in the market right?

[turbid flame]

yep

[jaunty token]

ahh so bound is just for any kind of gear or item progression?

[turbid flame]

for the most part

[jaunty token]

bless, thanks!

[turbid flame]

pretty much bound gold for everything but market things, or stronghold crafting for items that are tradable

[jaunty token]

ahh makes sense, I just hit 1580 so I have a long way to T4

T4 is 1640?

[turbid flame]

1620, "technically"

since you can then just gear transfer and gain +20 ilvl

+19 on the 1585 gear

the Akkan gear

[jaunty token]

ohhhh okok sick thanks

[heavy briar]

can you only get the cube bloodclaw fragment from 3rd unlock?

[wooden swallow]

No.

It's on the rewards list for all of them.

[lost crag]

i heard someone say that there might be new legendary cards obtainable through merchants ? is that correct and if so which are new ?

[viral marsh]

Does it matter which Dispacth missions I send them on for the map?

[alpine anvil]

all this stuff from azakiel rapport is junk?

[minor briar]

ye

[minor briar]

just normal tab

[minor briar]

card pack 4? most got updated to it ye

[lost crag]

? wdym so all old cards beside pack 4 are in there now ?

[minor briar]

no

its included

[lost crag]

wait all wandering merchants can have all cards now ?

[minor briar]

no

whoever told u that meant certain npcs

not wandering "merchants"

[lost crag]

which npcs tho ?

[minor briar]

ok well i think if u were told this recently, its probably misinfo cuz this change was a while ago

there are no new leg cards outside of pack 4's

only a few purps and blues

related to rimeria npcs

but the change was most card sources got updated to pack 4, it used to be inconsistent with some still pack 1 and some pack 3 (before 4 came out)

[lost crag]

im pretty sure i watched the defild video yesterday and he said there are some new legendary cards in wandering merchants

and i just wanted to confirm if thats true or not weve been talking past one another 😄 sorry

[minor briar]

uhh

[minor briar]

u have a link to the vid?

i cant even find him and hes banned on twitch

[lost crag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEv1dPwqiZA

14.52

[minor briar]

oh

i mean theyre not "new"

it sohuld be in the patch notes

that i didnt read

hmm.. its not in there

[lost crag]

i just went through them theres no mention of it

[minor briar]

soo.. not sure where he got that info

[lost crag]

ye so prolly just bs

[minor briar]

cuz it was mentioned that kr was gonna add mroe new* los and lwc cards to merchant but i dont recall that ever happening

[hollow tusk]

How do i get second bloodclaw fragment #2? I saw Royal Luterran Tradeship but I can't seem to find it anywhere how does it spawn? Help plss.

[minor briar]

just wait for someone on ur server to find it

it rotates around 5-6 islands on a 30 min basis i heard

[hollow tusk]

ok thanks

[unique gazelle]

Its possible To play lost ark Belgium ?

[torpid marsh]

these things are not relevant anymore, right?

[outer mason]

seems like lost ark is banned in belgium because of gambling
you might need a vpn
or use geforce now

[outer mason]

yeah, no longer useful currently
they might have a use after they rework tripods, we don't know yet

[leaden pendant]

Is it normal for the early game to be this easy?

[trail wigeon]

yess

[leaden pendant]

Even the elite dungeon?

[trail wigeon]

the hard part is getting into lobbies to play

[leaden pendant]

Ehh hard

[trail wigeon]

no but yeah the earlier dungeons are like satisfying

where are you right now?

[leaden pendant]

Demon just invaded Prideholme

Cause the endboss of that dungeon died with burst mode ult and 3 small attacks

[turbid flame]

yeah, just wait until you get to actual raids in a month or so

:^)

many people did the earlygame, breezed through everything, got to the first actual raid, then complained cause 2 hard 4 them

[leaden pendant]

What have I signed up for?

Is it correct to just level ground smash for now as slayer?

[lavish grove]

The Ultimate Slayer Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Slayer class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

​

Slayer Community Guide

This information was created by community members · May 24, 2025, 9:33 AM

[turbid flame]

that'll tell you what skills are generally used

doesn't matter "too" much early on tbh

[leaden pendant]

I see tho I guess rn there isn't really a need for "build" since pretty much anything dies fast

[trail wigeon]

yeah exactly

until you get to t3 is pretty much a tutorial

gettin familiarized with what the game keys are

and showing you a story to geek about if you want

usually there should be a powerpass to level you up directly to endgame content. to at least know where the game lays at right now

but what youre seeing is a complete different game

[leaden pendant]

I mean like I said once before no reason to purchase something in a game you just started

If the games good sure

something here and there

[trail wigeon]

if you refer to the powerpass. it should be free

[leaden pendant]

Oh

Hmm

[trail wigeon]

there was one before this wednesday

[turbid flame]

there is no powerpass currently

[trail wigeon]

it is super unlucky you just started after

[leaden pendant]

Well it's fine I probably wouldn't have gotten it

cause this seems more fun

Uhh two epic

[trail wigeon]

truee

yeah i think its easier for you to go slow and enjoy this part of the game

rather than appearing in endgame it would make you feel so lost

[leaden pendant]

Especially since it's my first type of game like this

For lore to my point the demons want to learn bout the arc for that they need the tablet they used grave robbers to get the last piece put only the bishop can decipher it?

And we somehow are connected to this ark

[trail wigeon]

i think we arent conected to the ark

[leaden pendant]

But chosen by it

[heady hollow]

[leaden pendant]

or some like that

[trail wigeon]

youre just after it cause beatrice told you to

youre just after it

and you met a priest who wants to help you find it

[leaden pendant]

I may have found something...

It depends if the weapon skin is bound to the weapon

[turbid flame]

wdym

[leaden pendant]

Is it a skin for a special weapon or is it a universal skin.

[blissful pivot]

During a Chaos Gate run, my internet connection was lost. When I logged back in and clicked the "Launch" button on the character selection screen, nothing happened. After about 5 minutes, I got a "Cannot connect to the server" error and the game closed.

I can log in when I use a different internet connection, but when I try using my mobile data, I can no longer access the game. I have no issues with other games, but I just can't log into Lost Ark.

[turbid flame]

I mean, it should say like

what class the wep is for

[leaden pendant]

I guess greatsword

[turbid flame]

looks like Slayer only

since female warrior w/ big sword

[leaden pendant]

Dang 30 bucks

yeah can wait

Pet function is locked behind the aura thing?

[trail wigeon]

yeaah

thats like the premium stuff if you pay

[west charm]

i can't enter echidna g2 after leaving. do i just wait?

[trail wigeon]

or you can buy with blue crystals through the game also

[turbid flame]

did you song of escape out?

[west charm]

might have im not sure

[turbid flame]

whelp, can always try again next week

[west charm]

i attempted g2

[turbid flame]

you have to leave w/ the exit button on the top left

[west charm]

i died a few times and i left

really

sad

[turbid flame]

if you song out, it counts as you leaving so it's rip

[split crater]

Can somebody tell me what are worst/hardest adventure tomes?

[west charm]

are there other ways of getting agris scale other than echidna?

[turbid flame]

think there's some in solo mode shop, idr

[west charm]

only have alcaone's eye

:(((

[turbid flame]

oof

[west charm]

i need to wait so long to temper all these i might as well just transfer to t4

[turbid flame]

yeah i would

tbh

not the biggest diff between AH in t3 vs t4 nowadays

[west charm]

it's not worth tapping these right?

this*

[turbid flame]

you can, if you want, since you have so many shards

[trail wigeon]

it is!! if you have harmony shards

and those materials at the right, solar protection and such. if you transfer to t4 you wont be able to use them

they increase chance to get higher success

[west charm]

so i should just stay in t3 for a few weeks?

[turbid flame]

no

[west charm]

but im kinda gated by gold

[trail wigeon]

not a few weeks, until you can get the gold

[west charm]

finish my gold and then transfer?

hmm

[dapper valley]

is there a chart with the estimated adv hone 20-40 cost

[turbid flame]

yea, prob just do what you can now, then transfer

don't sit in t4

t3*

[trail wigeon]

you need to advance hone 4 pieces

[trail wigeon]

and then after doing Advance hone from 1-10 on 4 pieces, you gear transfer those 4 pieces to t4 and you get 1640. with still 2 pieces to advance hone in t3 and use the shards and mats youve farmed

[turbid flame]

they don't have the gold to adv hone 4 pieces 1-10 tho

so they'd likely have to sit for more than 1 reset, at t3

at that point, just go t4

[spring spruce]

is it an alt or a main they are adv hone?

[west charm]

main

[trail wigeon]

maybe they have: unbound materials to sell, life energy pots and other ways to get gold

[west charm]

maybe i should wait one more reset temper a few more g ear and tap a few more times

[spring spruce]

do what you can and transfer if its main, more worth imo. If it was alt then there would be an advantage to staying

it also depends if you are thinking on to doing group content for echidna hard

because if you don't want to then stay maybe since there wont be a gold rise for you

[west charm]

i dont think im ready for group content

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/645270538217848875/1375468105538601042/monster-versus.gif

[spring spruce]

the only thing you get if you transfer now is tier 4 stuff and some dmg to make solo mode easier but if you stay in tier 3 you will be able to use the materials you have, hm echidna doesn't need anything but a 1640 character with a few transendence and elixirs pretty much

[west charm]

used all the artisan's metallurgy from the event shop too, cost effectiveness!

[turbid flame]

would've saved those tbh

[west charm]

really

fk

[turbid flame]

yeah, for when you have 6 bubbles

[west charm]

is that so...

HAHA well too bad

[trail wigeon]

but do you have unbound materials to sell on the market? or life energy pots?

[trail wigeon]

i say it because, you need to have some gold to be able to sell thing on the market

[west charm]

yea i dont have much gold i just returned

[spring spruce]

yo tulroh, care for the point down? just for my knowledge

[west charm]

i dont have much unbound mats too i sell unbound stones when i get them from guardian raids

[slate geyser]

if you have a lot of those scrolls, you can just use them on every tap.

[turbid flame]

they have 0 currently

[slate geyser]

They've given out quite a bit, to a point where I just used them on every tap for the last few pieces I had to push

[west charm]

i used all 6 in the 2 event shops

[slate geyser]

And if you do have that many, it makes it SOO much cheaper lmao

One of my alts has uh

like 40+ legendary scrolls for armor/weapon

[turbid flame]

you're also a vet player, they're a newer player, and didn't have time to get them from other events and what not

newer / returning*

[fleet briar]

Okay, my game is bricked and i dont know how to fix it nor explain, essentially when i try to open the game, the loading picture/app opens, when it goes away my cursor on BOTH monitors changes to the loa one, i hear loa sounds but the game window is just not there? i tried verifying game files, reinstalling the game nothing has worked

[spring spruce]

guess I won't know what tulroh was reacting for

[slate geyser]

You not wrong. But majority of those scrolls came from mari's shop to be fair.

[west charm]

yea im returning i didnt do a lot of events for years

i dont even touch maris shop

barely have gold for that

[slate geyser]

I don't suggest it since you don't have the gold income for that.

Just stating that if you stock up on scrolls and take your time, you can save yourself a lot more gold.

[west charm]

i got 8k gold from a relic engraving dropping earlier today

which allowed me to 1620

[slate geyser]

The adv honing nerf isn't going away. It's permanent.

[turbid flame]

relic engraving prior to 1640? wowie

from what?

[west charm]

field boss

bahaha

[turbid flame]

ahhh

you group with people to make sure you got the damage %? 😏

[west charm]

someone dropped 300k

nope

KICKED

[turbid flame]

ohhhhh

[west charm]

HAHAHA

[turbid flame]

the group auction

[slate geyser]

Oh huge. That allowed you to get out of that tier 3 deadzone. Congrats

Now you are in the cool kids club

[west charm]

i am

[turbid flame]

baldy, they're debating wether to sit at T3 for an extra reset+, or to just go T4 now

[slate geyser]

Well, there's a simple answer to that.

[west charm]

theres nothing i can do this reset too i think

[slate geyser]

How many honor shards do you have?

[west charm]

except dailies

a lot

1.6 mil

[slate geyser]

Can you give me a number

Okay.

How many of the other bound materials

[west charm]

i even have more stashed up 😢

[slate geyser]

Leapstones, blue and red stones

[spring spruce]

also don't forget that it is pretty much main too and not planning on doing group content

[slate geyser]

Okay you have basically 0 leapstones.

However, how much of the red stones

And blue stones

total

[west charm]

i have these too

i have more stashed up

[slate geyser]

You can open up these

And continue going.

[hearty kraken]

no gold to continue honing

[west charm]

yea

no gold

[slate geyser]

If you are willing to park for a few more weeks, it'd be worth it for you.

If I could turn back time, I'd be parking in Tier 3 to complete advanced honing

Or at least up to level 10.

[turbid flame]

to be fair, without a T4 char, their gold gain is... fairly limited

unless they can get carried through the hard modes accessible at 1620

solo Echi + Thae + Akkan

[west charm]

im doing solo

[spring spruce]

yeah but they are not thinking of going into group

[slate geyser]

That's a fair point, but factor life skilling into that, and it's not a big deal.

And there's solo mode as well.

[turbid flame]

That's why I said solo Echi + thae + Akkan

[west charm]

i dont have a lot of life skilling set up except for fishing to get fusion mats

[turbid flame]

12.8k + 8.8k + 5.2k if you do Ivory tower over Akkan

[slate geyser]

If you take your time drag, adv honing in Tier 3 will pay off. Otherwise you'd have to park for quite a long time in Tier 4 to accumulate the shards to do adv honing in Tier 4.
@west charm

[turbid flame]

so you could get some taps every week

[slate geyser]

Fishing is dead, you can easily get a good logging tool and do logging

Which is far more profitable.

[west charm]

hmm ok

[hearty kraken]

wasnt logging t4 only?

cant do that when you stay in t3

[slate geyser]

No.

[turbid flame]

group logging is mostly dead before T4

[west charm]

i just do the fishing for bound mats one not manual fishing

[turbid flame]

and you can't craft abidos w/ T3 logs

but

you can still sell

[slate geyser]

You don't need to be 1640 to do north kurzan lol

[turbid flame]

you do

it will not let you cut the trees unless 1640

[hearty kraken]

you cant do north kuzan without 1640

[slate geyser]

Uhhh are you 100% sure about that? Pretty sure you can do North Kurzan at 1620.

[turbid flame]

yes

[hearty kraken]

yes

I tried

[turbid flame]

you can go to N. Kurzan at 1600

[leaden pendant]

Do I open this?

[trail wigeon]

what does it mean point down sorry'

[hearty kraken]

right after getting to north kuzan

[turbid flame]

but you can't do life skills there till 1640

[slate geyser]

That doesn't make much sense Gari.

[turbid flame]

yes, but they don't have a use for you for.... a while

[hearty kraken]

I was sad I couldnt get t4 mats even though I was there

[turbid flame]

It's how it si though?

[slate geyser]

Does some pop-up occur if you try to cut logs even if you complete the story?

[turbid flame]

yes

[hearty kraken]

yes

[slate geyser]

Cause the story itself is not gatekept behind 1640.

[west charm]

i just tested it

[hearty kraken]

lifeskilling there is

[slate geyser]

That is....

complete bullshit

[turbid flame]

[slate geyser]

holy moly

[leaden pendant]

Holy I'm 1500 lvs away from max??

[turbid flame]

uh

no

[west charm]

you'll jump

[turbid flame]

max right now is 1740ish

but, it's ilvl

not actual level

[slate geyser]

Let me do the math on this for you drag.

[turbid flame]

actual level cap is 70

[leaden pendant]

Ah

[west charm]

mhm

[slate geyser]

What's your current adv honing progress? @west charm

I can tell you what to expect in order to complete it.

From there you can decide to transition now or wait.

[west charm]

oops

[slate geyser]

That's just one piece

Show me the entire screen

[west charm]

i lost my echidna g2 from SONGING OUT

bahahahaha

:(

so i cant even temper

[slate geyser]

Oh yeah, never do that. Click leave raid when you are done with gate 1

One moment.

[turbid flame]

you can song out if you clear gate 1, then don't hit proceed, iirc

but yea, if you start new gate and song out

it's rip

since it considers you "abandoning an in progress raid"

[west charm]

ah..

[turbid flame]

whereas the other one is the group voting to leave

even when solo

[west charm]

theres no new chaos dgn after 1610?

[turbid flame]

there is

Kurzan front

can't do it till 1640 tho

[west charm]

ah

not worth getting t4 to do dailies?

ok loaded question

mah bad

[trail wigeon]

the only reason i think its worth getting into it is to start farming destiny shards, which you shouldnt have problems getting since you will have a ton with events and such.

staying now a bit in t3 to use orehas instead of abidos may save you from doing advanced honing more expensive later

its how i see it

[west charm]

im not sure about t4 but t3 they shit out shards for me even when i was playing years back

[trail wigeon]

i think whats best for you now is: if you have life energy pots. go to voldis, great rainforest, and do excavation there. get materials to craft orehas. and sell them

[west charm]

these?

[leaden pendant]

Is that roster or combat level?

[turbid flame]

combat level

[trail wigeon]

since you cant farm in north kurzan yet to craft abidos

[leaden pendant]

Ah hmm 14 isn't so bad I guess

[trail wigeon]

yeaah

[leaden pendant]

well

nvm

[turbid flame]

They would still need gold to craft the abidos

and it'd have to be unbound, with that method

[slate geyser]

This is for 1-10. You have the shards, but bottle necked on three things. Gold, Leapstones and fusion materials. Leaps and fusions can be bought out per week from the solo mode shop.

**In terms of your gold income **= 26,800 per week without buying any boxes at the end of each gate. If you only have one character in your roster, it would take you 9 weeks to reach the amount of gold to complete advanced honing in Tier 3 for raw gold cost alone.

If you factor passive income from chaos dungeon via gems and sell them, it may be shortened a bit in terms of how long to achieve that amount of gold.

If you factor Life Skilling, this can be shortened even further, probably to 7 weeks.

[trail wigeon]

he doesnt need to AH 6 pieces only 4

[west charm]

i have a few alts

[trail wigeon]

and gear transfer those 4 pieces to t4 to reach 1640

[slate geyser]

Sure, but it would be ideal to finish it in Tier 4 if he can, since it will take a long time to accumulate the shards needed to advance hone. He is 1620 currently.

11-20 is out of the question. You have to do that in Tier 4. Too long of parking, not worth it.

But 1-10 is achievable if you wait a bit longer.

The gold income from these other alts would shorten it down to about 7-8 weeks if you did solo mode on all of those characters per week.

[west charm]

i have a few lv 7 lv 8 tier 3 gems, like maybe 10-20. are they worth anything if so how would i sell them?

[slate geyser]

People still buy Tier 3 gems off the market. Sold a few myself recently.

[trail wigeon]

yes thats good money

[slate geyser]

If they are not bound gems, sell them I'd say.

[west charm]

yea since there are bound lv 7s

for free

[slate geyser]

Yeah you cannot sell bound gems.

[trail wigeon]

you cant sell bound xd

[leaden pendant]

Is this just colletible?

[west charm]

yea i know i meant the unbound ones i have

xddd

[slate geyser]

Any unbound ones, I would sell.

[west charm]

as in im gonna change them out

[trail wigeon]

yeaah just for grind

[trail wigeon]

yeah put on youre character bound ones, and unbound gems just sell

[leaden pendant]

Ah okay so just use and be done with it

[slate geyser]

But basically what I am stating is, If you can wait a few weeks, you can complete adv honing 1-10 in tier 3. Which would make you 1630. Which means when you enter Tier 4, you will be 1650. From there, hitting 1670 won't be too difficult via raw honing since the game is giving out a lot of Tier 4 honing books.

[west charm]

any idea how i can see the rough pricing

[leaden pendant]

What's that supposed to mean

[west charm]

ill probably wait a few weeks while doing solo raids then

[slate geyser]

If I were in your shoes I'd do the same thing.

[west charm]

honestly my problem when i used to play i kept spending gold on skins

LMFAO

[trail wigeon]

that what you said is rightt

[slate geyser]

Because advanced honing is moreso a long-term investment for item level. And makes raw honing a bit easier on you for hitting item level thresholds.

The sooner you can finish it, the better.

If you move to Tier 4 now, you won't be able to touch advance honing for quite a while due to Tier 4 shards starting at 0 for you.

[leaden pendant]

Ah

[west charm]

i think ill park then

since i wont do group raids anyways

[slate geyser]

No worries. You can get into group raids with the revamped mokoko event that will be released sometime in the future when you enter Tier 4. Anyone who has not cleared the raid 10 times will be a mokoko, and people want mokoko in raids to clear out the shop.

[west charm]

or smth like that hoenstly im not totally sure but im just gonna heed your advice

oh shit they have that

[slate geyser]

Yes.

[west charm]

that's kinda cool

never had that shit whe ni played just gatekept the hell out

[slate geyser]

Incentives to play with people like you. It's a win-win situation.

[turbid flame]

maybe they'll reintroduce it this summer / fall w/ female paladin

[leaden pendant]

How do I bind that to slot 5?

[slate geyser]

I'm hoping right after LOAON.

[leaden pendant]

Drag and drop didn't work

[turbid flame]

to f5?

or slot 5?

[west charm]

until i got that stupid title

[leaden pendant]

to 5

[turbid flame]

you have to drag it to the 1-4

afaik

the ones below it

[trail wigeon]

but i think were not taking into account that, since this may be his first character to reach 1640, once he reaches 1640 he will be able to get into the current event to get lots of rewards...

but still, if he upgrades to t4 without doing AH on t3 he will loose money.

at least try and get as much gold as you can and use all those t3 increase chance materials then go to t4. dont wait weeks pls, sounds painful

[slate geyser]

Are you on NA east?

[leaden pendant]

Does are battle item said didn't work

[west charm]

oh yea

the freaking event

[leaden pendant]

Wtf

[west charm]

maybe i should just jump to t4..

[slate geyser]

What possibly event are you speaking of? The road to act 3?

[west charm]

im on NAW i think

yea

road to act 3

[trail wigeon]

yeaah

[turbid flame]

is your server Brel / Thaemine?

if so, na-w

[slate geyser]

Pretty sure that won't expire any time soon.

Doesn't it expire in July?

[west charm]

oh yea

i think i should park

HAHAHA

[slate geyser]

Let me double check the expiration date for you.

[west charm]

i mean if i jumped to t4 its not like i could just fly up with the event right

yea its july

23rd

[slate geyser]

Okay so

These are some things to keep in mind.

[west charm]

am i cooked? or looking at the wrong place

no one has bought lv 7 tier 3 gems

[turbid flame]

sort by all classes

on top left

[west charm]

ah ok

[turbid flame]

since you can roll gems for silver regardless

[west charm]

should i just starting bid 1

[turbid flame]

what I usually do is the register item bottom right -> put gem in and then show similar -> click the page thing on the top right and filter to all classes

no

because what if it just goes for next to nothing then

see what they're usually going for, put buyout for similar, bid for a few k under or something

[leaden pendant]

I think slayer was the right decision

[turbid flame]

most of the time it'll go for the buyout

[trail wigeon]

i think to sum it up, correct me if i slip up something (i made a new account and im also wondering how to try and do this as efficient as possible so i like to share):

• try and get as much gold as possible by crafting orehas farmed at voldis rainforest.

• try and do dailies/weeklies on alts to funnel gold to main from leapstones/blues/reds

• una tasks gold thingie aswell keep it in mind

• try to sell gems, do cubes to get more gems

• try to sell all youre sellable things idk xd

• then just once you have all youre available gold just try to AH 1-10 and get rid of as much shards and increase chance materials as possible.
  -then just boom get to t4

[turbid flame]

here's the thing though

do they have unbound gold to craft the orehas

and to sell them

that's something else you have to take into account

[west charm]

well i did! but i spent them honing

[trail wigeon]

yeah thats why i got scared when he spammed advanced honing and getting into almost 0 gold xd

[west charm]

its fine i have gems

[trail wigeon]

you should get back gold by slowly selling what you can and getting gold back

[hearty kraken]

reasons im not spending my unbound gold

[slate geyser]

Yes, if you enter Tier 4 you can take advantage of the Tier 4 Act 3 event. It does help with getting to 1660. But it's not 'free'. What I suggest, is to complete as much adv honing in tier 3 as you can before the end of June. Then at the start of July. transition to Tier 4 and complete the Act 3 event. It shouldn't be that crazy to get from 1640 to 1660 within 23 days if you do all of your raids. Assuming you are a mokoko, you can reap the benefits of joning raids like Behemoth or Echidna to get the full gold rewards.
@west charm

[turbid flame]

That also depends on if they start mokoko event again after LOAON

which nobody knows if they will

[west charm]

im a mokoko

[slate geyser]

He is a mokoko right now.

[west charm]

WAIT

am i ???

[slate geyser]

Let's test.

[west charm]

i just hit 1620

im pretty sure i lost my mokoko

[turbid flame]

There's no mokoko event currently running tho

[trail wigeon]

join a guild or cool people that wanna help you. be social!!

[turbid flame]

is what I mean

[hearty kraken]

ah right, waht do you lose exactly at 1620 as a mokoko?

[slate geyser]

Oh your right it went away.

[turbid flame]

and you're assuming a new one will start after LOAON

which we don't know if it will or not

[west charm]

its fine i just wont join raids for now

[slate geyser]

I doubt they would drag on the new mokoko farther than LOAON Gari.

[west charm]

im lazy to find a guild

[slate geyser]

It's a highly requested feature.

[turbid flame]

I mean, it is AGS

[slate geyser]

Well, they seem more open and receptive these days.

[turbid flame]

as it stands, we're likely going to have a month at least w/o a powerpass

so rip new players

potentially 2-3 if they delay until fem paladin

[leaden pendant]

How do I bind my horse to a button?

[west charm]

whats the next powerpass ilvl estimated to be

[cyan kiln]

drag it

[turbid flame]

drag it to the 5-9 you were seeing

[turbid flame]

prob 1585 / 1600

depending on which they give

[leaden pendant]

Thx¨$

[west charm]

gonna use that on my GS then

[turbid flame]

theoretically, if they created a South Rimeria powerpass, it'd be 1640, but it doesn't even exist in KR yet

[slate geyser]

1585 has occured, so I am guessing 1600 which would be North Kurzan Powerpas.

[turbid flame]

the last few have been 1585

iirc

[slate geyser]

Yeah.

1640 would be cooking, but as you said, does not exist yet.

Which is, very coincidental.

[west charm]

honestly i dont even wanna touch my bottom three alts

[slate geyser]

I don't blame you, they are low ilvl.

[turbid flame]

it's not that bad, with solo shop mats

since it's just silver

[west charm]

yea true

i have a lot of silver

[turbid flame]

I raised all of my top 6 to at least 1585 over time w/ solo mode mats

[west charm]

but the mats

freaking

FUSIOJN

i think

[turbid flame]

solo mode mats, and some crafting of oreha here and there

[west charm]

fusion is the problem

for my alts

[hearty kraken]

you get 100 fusion a week

[west charm]

from solo exchange?

[turbid flame]

yes

[hearty kraken]

yes

[west charm]

maybe i hsould touch them

[turbid flame]

technically more like, 120

after converting up

(only talking about up to 1580)

[west charm]

seriously, before this shop it was hell

thats why i didnt wanna play

[slate geyser]

@west charm If you were on NA east, I'd have some tier 3 mats to give you.

Sucks that you are on NAW

[west charm]

im on NAW i think :((

brelshaza

[turbid flame]

yep that's na-w

[slate geyser]

Unfortunate.

[west charm]

its okay

[turbid flame]

I'm on Na-E 😏

[west charm]

im gated by gold mostly anyways

[slate geyser]

I have like 2k+ tier 3 leapstones I'd just hand out to you

Was saving for female paladin but buying them is no diff for me lol

[west charm]

i have these

[slate geyser]

Yeah that's a decent chunk

But you should at least do chaos dungeon on all your characters for the passive income from gems

And sell them.

That's a good amount of gold for you.

[west charm]

cubes too

bah

[slate geyser]

Yeah cubes too.

[west charm]

do you buy all cube tickets from guild shop

or just the highest one

coz theres so many

[slate geyser]

I buy the highest ones, and 1 tier lower if I have enough bloodstones left.

[turbid flame]

I buy all the ones I can, starting from most expensive, cause why not

[west charm]

mm okay

im gonna take it easy though

i burnt out when i used to play

[slate geyser]

Yeah take it easy. Your 1620 already which is great.

And if your tired of parking, you can always switch on over.

[hearty kraken]

meannwhile im onlz 1605...

[west charm]

worst problem i have is i want skins

[slate geyser]

Just a peak of what you get when you hit 1640

For act 3 event.

[west charm]

thats great but

[turbid flame]

the thing is, if you get higher ilvl, and do group raids, you can afford skins

[west charm]

no gold

[slate geyser]

It goes up 5 item levels.

This is true, sure.

[west charm]

where my gold

[slate geyser]

It's here

[hearty kraken]

how much gold do zou get though

[slate geyser]

60k gold for doing Aegir 3 weeks in total

And 50k for getting to 1660

With a 1670 and 1680 box

[west charm]

sounds like a lot but its hella little

hahahaha

and not to mention its after clearing the event

[slate geyser]

Ehh. the cost for 1660 from 1640 isnt as much as you think

Look at this.

In terms of raw gold cost, it's only slightly more than doing 1-10 adv honing in Tier 3.

[lapis vessel]

what do i do with old empty bottle? the one from the kurzon wandering merchant ship

[slate geyser]

This is 1640 to 1660 raw honing

[west charm]

that is pretty little compared to what i was expecting

[turbid flame]

open it and hope for bloodclaw fragment

[west charm]

i thought it was millions

[lapis vessel]

real?!

i hate that

[slate geyser]

Also, this does not factor in the free books you get

which gives you higher success rate.

So in reality, this is even cheaper than what it is showing

[turbid flame]

time to hone my soulfist higher than 1640 since I have so many books left

[west charm]

are we ever gonna get more roster storage

am i

[slate geyser]

Yeah they have given out so many tier 4 honing books these past few months

[turbid flame]

you can buy with blue gems

[slate geyser]

No announcement on that xdd

[turbid flame]

and research it in the uh

[west charm]

bruhhh

[turbid flame]

stronghold

[turbid flame]

oof

[slate geyser]

Both of 1 and 2 tab are maxxed out for me.

[west charm]

its sucks sooo bad

i think the smartest is to put them in alts

but

it s so inconvenient

jesus

[slate geyser]

Well, I don't see the reason to not use the aura

in the roster storage

makes no sense to hold onto them

[outer mason]

rare engraving books are also completely useless now

[west charm]

because im not playing

[hearty kraken]

makes sense if you arent currently playing with it

[west charm]

this is like my 2nd week retruning

[slate geyser]

Oh. I see.

[turbid flame]

and any class engraving things

[west charm]

and the only use i see for it is

repairing in raids

[turbid flame]

those are also able to be scrapped

[slate geyser]

The legendary pouches you can straight up just use

same with the pic pouches

epic*

[west charm]

yea i think i cleared those out

i only have combat engravings

[slate geyser]

Use them on random engravings I'd say

Maybe chaos dungeon engravings if not already maxxed out

[outer mason]

soon tm though

[slate geyser]

Pre-emptive strike, contender, etc

[west charm]

yea i can open quite a lot i have little engravings maxed

[slate geyser]

I'd just use them on random engravings at that point to clear storage

especially like Awakening, Magick Stream, Expert, Max MP, Vital Point Hit

[west charm]

are pheons still scarce like last time?

[slate geyser]

you never know, may introduce a support in your roster.

[west charm]

i have a thousand of them

[slate geyser]

Eh, not really.

Since cutting stones with the ark passive system is more lenient.

[west charm]

ahh makes sense

thanks a lot for the help btw everyone

[slate geyser]

np

these boxes im saving for female paladin xdd

[burnt quiver]

elixir info pls whats the main goal? imbue 5/3 to all armor piece? but anyone can give like theorotical example? so i can have something in mind

[west charm]

im also curious about elixirs

and transendence

what does 5/3 mean?

you mean the 3 slots?

i think you can only apply one of them

at a time

so it's 5 elixirs in your armor at a time

i think

but im not sure what are the optimal elixirs

is it even possible to get lv 4 both

[outer mason]

transcendence is ez
just click the big button until you get 3 flowers on each level
repeat for each armor piece

[outer mason]

you can get both lv5 if you're lucky enough

[west charm]

?????

rly

im just bad then

[outer mason]

but it's not necessary

what matters is reaching 40 total

[hearty kraken]

isnt it mostly luck

[west charm]

40 total of what?

im dumb

[hearty kraken]

levels

[slate geyser]

Somewhat.

Choosing the right options helps.

You have some control

Blindly clicking will make it take longer.

[west charm]

u control nothing

its an illusion

[slate geyser]

lol

[hearty kraken]

you have a bit of control