#lost-ark-help

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marsh needle
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Ohhhh okokok

cyan kiln
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It’s the 1-10 or 11-20 unlock

marsh needle
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I see i see

cyan kiln
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It’s what uses the echidna mats

marsh needle
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And iirc tempering requires scales and eyes right?

west valley
cyan kiln
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Yes

marsh needle
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Yessss okayyy okay

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I m starting to understand

west valley
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to start it

marsh needle
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What is going on

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Ok so

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Oh man

cyan kiln
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Altho the hm mats can be used for 1-10 as well

marsh needle
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I still have so many questions

cyan kiln
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The hm mats are in solo shop

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I wouldn’t do any advanced honing other than spending t3 shards and juice until roadmap comes out.

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Kr just got a cost nerf. Question is just when we get it.

valid helm
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April qol update COPIUM

cyan kiln
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Keep huffing that cope

valid helm
vast oriole
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eh it would make sense

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to prepare for act 3

marsh needle
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Tempering requires t3 mats while adv honing req eyes and scales, is this correct?

cyan kiln
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It requires t3 shards if you’re in t3

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As soon as you equip t4 armor it requires t4 stuff

rose jewel
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its the same thing

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just go to the npc and you can see what it asks for

west valley
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@rose jewel he only has 1 char @marsh needle i was suggesting him to transition to 1640 (he has mokoko and is sitting 1620) and reap the benefits

rose jewel
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i was stating that he was refering to the same thing

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adv hone does not require eyes/scale, thats temper, but adv hone uses the tier of the armor he's using

cyan kiln
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He should temper first and spend any juice as long as he’s not waiting.

west valley
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idk if its worth sitting out on 3 higher tier raids given his circumstances

cyan kiln
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It’s not. Use up any t3 shards for tempering. Do as many ah taps as you have juice for, then transfer.

fresh crater
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if i buy a powerpass to north kurzan, do i still get the challenge express?

cyan kiln
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Takes a few minutes.

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Express midget require trusted

fresh crater
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i am trusted

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thinking for alt

obsidian valve
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i did express on destro alt KEKW

cyan kiln
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But other than that express can be applied up to 1640

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But it’s not per char.

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It’s once per account.

fresh crater
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oh sad

obsidian valve
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yep, the best events are

cyan kiln
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The pass plus express thing happens a few times per year. 2-4.

fresh crater
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yeah was just thinking of maybe boosting an alt with pass, but without express is a bit meh

cyan kiln
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I wouldn’t raise an alt without it

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1585 - 1620 is really expensive

rose jewel
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express is one per region

woeful knot
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have i possibly missed the timing to use the challenge express? i just used the kurzan powerpass on an alt i had but i cant find the challenge express anywhere? is it only for new characters?

rose jewel
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doesnt help his cause but better to correct the info

rose jewel
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once per region

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no you cant use it on several chars, no you cant switch it to another server

woeful knot
woeful knot
rose jewel
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you just kind of said the contrary thing

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you have to be 1580 to start it

woeful knot
# rose jewel you have to be 1580 to start it

yeah my character was 1580 and i used the powerpass to to get 1585 since i didnt have any characters lower than that. this is my first time using a powerpass on a character thats already lvld so i wasnt sure if that might have affected it

west valley
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you can powerpass it to 1580 and then use it but you need 1580 to start it

rose jewel
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just grab the express

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what's the issue with it, you cant see it?

woeful knot
west valley
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u can use it on NA given you havent already

rose jewel
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well

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have you relogged already

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also throw us a screenshot please of the whole screen

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i smell user error somewhere

west valley
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phonescreen shot for extra points KEKW

rose jewel
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so until i see the screen not showing the thing i dont believe it

rose jewel
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10 silver in game this is a yes

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do you have another character in another server

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on NAE

fresh crater
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how do i get these 2 mokokos on phantomwing island?

woeful knot
# rose jewel on NAE

i did have another roster on NA but i promise i haven't touched it in almost a year

fresh crater
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the guide only shows screenshot not how to get there

rose jewel
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uh huh...

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is your char truly truly 1580+

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i didnt see no ilv

west valley
# fresh crater how do i get these 2 mokokos on phantomwing island?

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woeful knot
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would u like another screenshot KEKW

rose jewel
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yes

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P window

west valley
woeful knot
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ignore the stats i literally just used the pass so havent sorted anything out yet besides equipping the new gear

rose jewel
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i have to ask this annoying stuff because GOD KNOWS that its always something so extremely simple and people always say yes and it ends up being a no

fresh crater
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XD fair i should check there more

obsidian valve
fresh crater
rose jewel
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so, have you relogged at all

obsidian valve
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if those don't work hit us up KEKW

fresh crater
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but they didnt say how to get to it

rose jewel
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go to char select screen and back

woeful knot
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i will try closing the game completely and reopening it now tho

rose jewel
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nah

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relog suffice for that

obsidian valve
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i just got here so i might've missed that part KEKDog

rose jewel
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well

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how bout you go and see your other roster

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because that's a very high lv roster for something new

woeful knot
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yeah im not a new player i started this game the year it came out and stopped playing this roster last july

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and am now back

fresh crater
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oh pff, ofc they didnt show how to get to it, you just walk through a hidden path, nothing special to do, but its not really that visible before you walk through it

rose jewel
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do you have any other character 1580+

woeful knot
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ya my whole roster is 1580+ on this server

rose jewel
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the fuck

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you already picked it on someone

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100%

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go to each char

woeful knot
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wat i swear if i did imma kms

rose jewel
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i'll help you with that

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so, go

woeful knot
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now that u say that, i do remember logging on my main for like 5 minutes over a month ago

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i couldnt have..

rose jewel
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the event is not a month old (is it?)

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just check all chars bro

obsidian valve
turbid flame
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started the 26th of last month

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so technically over a month

rose jewel
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well

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to that i say

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haha, get rekt

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but check first

obsidian valve
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i still need to get back to mokoko seeds actually, been taking a break to hone 😭

woeful knot
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ah

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@rose jewel pls kill me

fresh crater
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for the last mokoko seeds on north kurzan i need to wait for world boss to spawn again

marsh needle
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Hey guys, sorry for the lengthy message, but this should cover all my questions for a while. I’d really appreciate your answers—explaining my situation should help tailor your advice to me:

Situation:

I'm working on the most efficient way to reach T4 with my only character, started at 1600 via power pass, now at 1620 after completing the Mokoko Challenge Express (still have the Mokoko leaf for the token shop). Last night, I got a chest with T3 mats, including 300k honor shards, which become unusable in T4. I have 1 gold-earning raid left and haven’t cleared Thaemine or Echnida (both offer first-time rewards). I’ve been advised to: clear Echnida, temper pieces, use shards, go to T4, get hyper awakening, clear Thaemine, then start transcendence.

Questions:

  1. Should I try finding a normal Echnida group to maximize Mokoko token shop rewards, gold, and mats? I’m weak for parties, but if the reward gap is big, I’ll study the raid and try finding a party until Wednesday’s gold reset.

  2. Tempering uses scales (solo/normal), eyes (hard), and shards. Since hard mode unlocks at 1630, won’t this take weeks alternating normal/hard?

  3. Is “go to T4” just transferring my gear into the relic set from the challenge express?

  4. After hyper awakening, can I still do Thaemine hard group raid without gold-earning slots left and get non-gold rewards?

woeful knot
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in those 5 minutes i last logged onto this character i guess i used the express and then just never came back Smadge

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which honestlyu idk why the fck i did that, i woulve preferred using it in combination with the powerpass like i always do i guess maybe i was drunk that night

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Kittytyn_tilt i apologise to those who tried to help my stupidity

turbid flame
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xdding

rose jewel
rose jewel
rose jewel
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or recently

woeful knot
west valley
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i just dm'd you how much gold you're going to make given you abuse your mokoko @marsh needle so every week you relish sitting 1620 instead of , 1640 you're missing out on 50k+ gold

fresh crater
obsidian valve
rose jewel
obsidian valve
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also, there was the incentive for more enlightenment points so i just grabbed the seeds while working on that

rose jewel
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do you need more arrows

obsidian valve
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i haven't even touched south kurzan seeds yet lol

west valley
woeful knot
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but the thing is

rose jewel
rose jewel
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then dont even look at it

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wait for nerf

woeful knot
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upon using the express i seem to have also taken 3 of the boxes from the express since my character was already 1610 r_giggles

fresh crater
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so it will affect already used advanced honing too?

obsidian valve
rose jewel
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you either keep it there or switch for the benefits

fresh crater
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how do you get this?

rose jewel
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buy it, probably

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market

fresh crater
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yeah but its up for 150k rn XD

rose jewel
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fashion is expensive

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its probably an xmas mount

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probably this one

fresh crater
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apparently its from ark pass season 2 but from what i can see rn, the pass skin should be in shop too normally

woeful knot
rose jewel
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so, the button is grey

woeful knot
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again, i apologise for my stupidity r_babysigh

woeful knot
rose jewel
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well

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for the sake of your feelings i wont speak anymore

livid fossil
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lol

woeful knot
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crysad im already crying so u can if u want to

woeful knot
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guess i better do the challenge sht on my main then y_nickilaugh thanks anyway

fresh crater
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is lower lv transcendence always easier to get grade 3 than higher lv?

rose jewel
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usually

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but sometimes it trolls you

fresh crater
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i mean it trolls me most of the time anyway XD

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but at least im almost at full 20+ now

obsidian valve
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so glad they nerfed it KEKW

rose jewel
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not yet for us

fresh crater
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nerfed in what way?

rose jewel
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less gold req

fresh crater
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oh that wouldve been nice XD

timber mauve
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Isn’t it like a 50% cost reduction in kr?

rose jewel
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30

timber mauve
fresh crater
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now all is 20+ but i need more scales for last weapon on lv D:

rose jewel
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50 was for adv h

fresh crater
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scales are so slow

rose jewel
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mats

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gold was 20 iirc?

obsidian valve
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well technically reworked it i guess, alot less time consuming

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time-constraint nerf KEKW

livid fossil
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More rolling of the dice

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Me rolling 3 1 moves in row and tossing my mouse

obsidian valve
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true lol

turbid flame
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gate 3 Thaemine dead yet? 😏

livid fossil
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No laptop in shop

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Not sure how my charge port melted but that’s what he saw lol

turbid flame
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oof

obsidian valve
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hate to hear that

livid fossil
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Yeah it sparked and then I smell burnt stuff and it was ok few days then it would not even charge

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Get a diagnosis probably Tuesday and then hopefully get back by end of the week if lucky

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G3 would have been done since I am am pretty good with clash and I can do typing mech I think if I hyper after typing he be dead

fresh crater
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ok so adv honing is not worth until nerf right? but is it still worth to do it for the adv honing mission rn?

rose jewel
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that thing doesnt give shards back

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i dont even remember what you gotta do

turbid flame
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adv hone certain num of times, then lvl5 on armor and wep

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iirc

rose jewel
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hmm

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i bet it'll cost a lot more than it will give back

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unless the mission is to just tap a few times

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then its ok, but to lv5 i dont think so

turbid flame
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event goes till 4/23, copium that adv honing in for us by then

fresh crater
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xd

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i guess i will just try to do it near the end to see if update comes, at least for the ones that only need a few attempts

dapper valley
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how do you get more Indigo Island coins

turbid flame
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do the dungeon on indigo island once a dasy

rose jewel
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the daily and the missions

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i mean dungeon

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well its a daily dungeon KEKDog

opaque sable
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after I hit 1620 on my alt where do i go to get the 1640 skip?

balmy plank
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If youre using the Express youll get a chest for a free set. Otherwise finish N Kurzan and do Kenuart Fortress until you have a full set

opaque sable
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What's kenuart fortress>

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Oh, I see it now

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Thanks!!

balmy plank
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Similarish to chaos dungeon

pine hill
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I sold my old t10 gems and quit a year ago. How hard is it to get back into game? Has the game gotten better?

balmy plank
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Different flavor of the same old shit

wooden swallow
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Nop

balmy plank
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Lots of good qol. Solo raids and such

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Express event is going on now so it's not a bad timer to get into it

wooden swallow
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Can pick it back up to play for a month and quit again.

balmy plank
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This is help chat, not doomer chat

wooden swallow
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I'm sorry :(

wooden swallow
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It honestly is a really good time to just pick it back up and play.

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I don't know how long you'd like to stay, but it is for a returner.

balmy plank
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At the end of the day game are for fun. If you get a month or two of fun great, if more awesome. Just don't sell your gems this time

pine hill
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I quit right around time Akkan came out. Running that on 6 chars on launch was … something

balmy plank
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There are less dailies, faster chaos, T4 chaos is faster. Solo raids, Arkesia Tour too catch up on horizontal

wooden swallow
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Just play one character, no need to fomo.

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If you're not against the loli type of character, the new class is 10/10 fun on both spec.

rose jewel
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subjective

wooden swallow
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Then it's my subjective take, grump. :(

lavish mortar
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New class is big funny about2bear

latent python
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cant find the option to turn off screen shake T-T anyone able to help me

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im blind :/

pure basin
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Whats the standard lvl for t4 gems ppl accept nowadays?

thorny heath
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@vast oriole as i suspected prices went up after the frog 😂

balmy plank
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6s & 7s do well for most things. As always for the highest content like HM Brel its better to have higher for gatekeeping

thorny heath
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i only see people with 7s accepted if they're severely overhoned ilvl wise

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or some serious relic engravings

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(or, you know, they're supports)

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i got no trouble with my 1660 and 1670 bard & artist joining groups with only lvl 5 t4 gems

lavish mortar
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7s are just fine for clearing hm brel to be clear
Just gatekeeping reasons you need more :V

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Like flow said though, 6s with a couple 7s on big skills should be plenty for quite awhile

pure basin
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Thanks everyone, that's good standards to know. Currently on NM brel so quiet a journey I still have left till hm brel but trying to fix my old character

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Ripped some t3 lv10 gems off my deadge striker lol

lavish mortar
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What class are ya on?

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Might be worth keeping some t3 lvl 10 rather than converting them all up to t4

pure basin
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RE db, ik the base stat for t3 10 > t4 8. But there's the bonus outgoing dmg which idk constitutes a higher value

lavish mortar
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Tldr, skill that does over 25% of your total damage you do not convert (like your surge)
Everything else you convert

pure basin
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Makes sense, I saw a dmg distribution chart for db's on nexus but it did mention old so I wasn't sure how accurate it is now

wooden swallow
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RE Surge doesn't do 25% anymore.

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Hands dependent, though.

marsh needle
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hello, should i buy the extra chest for thaemine g1 clear?

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(also for g2 and g3 as well)

wooden swallow
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If you need the trans mats, otherwise, no.

marsh needle
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hello, after hitting 1620, i cleared echnida solo -> tempered 3 pieces of gear (all i could temper), and have 196k honor shards left.. i should adv hone until im left with no shards and then transition to t4, is this correct?

and although echnida was my last gold earning, i wanted to try practice thaemine, so i started a solo run, and after clearing g1, im now realizing ill end up with even more t3 honor shards bc of thaemine ... i should have t4'd before entering thaemine, to get t4 nats right? 😭

turbid flame
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no, Thaemine gives t3 still

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Echidna gives t4 mats once in t4 tho

marsh needle
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ohhh whew ok thank you

lapis pendant
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Do we know if the Adv Honing nerfs gonna affect tier 3 as well or is it just t4

valid helm
marsh needle
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tier 2 honing mats bound to character are unusable and cannot be converted to higher tiers, right?

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so safe to throw away?

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these are also character bound, but my gear pieces are already all +19... should i throw these out as well? (all 7 items in the screenshots are untradable)

outer mason
sharp fox
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Hello! Anyone on EU servers can help me with the barrier in Mount Zagoras?

spiral wyvern
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so... just got my main (Artist) to 1640 ilvl and unlocked hyper awakening, and wondering what I should start prioritizing now. I think for now don't worry about honing past 1640, but should I start investing all my resources into alts to make more gold, or should I be spending gold to on my main? Things I can think of to work on are...

  • full set of useful tier 4 accessories with high quality, decent rolls + enlightenment (still using tier 3)
  • tier 4 soulstone with decent engraving rolls (still using tier 3)
  • transcendence (only have pants level 7, gloves level 6 (17/20), no more free rerolls)
  • elixirs (only level 35 sum)
outer mason
willow shadow
# spiral wyvern so... just got my main (Artist) to 1640 ilvl and unlocked hyper awakening, and w...

Trans > Elixirs > 1660 honing
Sadly pushing alts beyond 1585 is not worth it and it'll just cost you ALOT and it's not worth, better wait for express event to push alts, or wait for the nerfs (copium).
In terms of accessories, having quality 70+ is the minimum (which is totally fine), pushing for better rolls is okayish but no need to spend pheons on them (personal opinion) .. u can get them by time and work on them.

cobalt heart
spiral wyvern
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oh, i have one alt that's like.. 1490 ilvl. Would pushing 5 alts to 1585 be my highest priority then compared to everything else I listed for my main?

marsh needle
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hello, im currently in the process of tempering my gear. i've tempered 4 pieces of gear (all i could temper with the amount of scales i had), but i still have about 110k honor shards left over. should i go ahead and adv hone one of the pieces to exhaust my honor shards?

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this is where im at currently

paper walrus
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no

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just transfer

marsh needle
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at the current state, i can go ahead and transfer?

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even though i have about 100k honor shards

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(as you can probably tell, i thought i was supposed to use up at least my honor shards before transfer, so i already was in the process)

cobalt edge
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why does the triport between Yorn and Voldis not work btw?

heady hollow
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because they are two different continents? Weirdgo

marsh needle
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what can i do with the old gear after gear transfer?

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theyre untradable, bc they were given from power pass

stray goblet
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dismantle them

marsh needle
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and now i can convert all my t3 mats to t4 right?

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(untradable)

snow hinge
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Hey guys, what are the non-positional classes in the game?

stray goblet
marsh needle
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yeap, so ill go ahead and convert them all

snow hinge
marsh needle
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yup, done all that

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i used up all my honor shards, only have 357 left

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ahhh feels sooo good to complete everything and now at 1640 T_T

fresh crater
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next hurdle, 1660 xd

snow hinge
marsh needle
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will i have to make an alt asap, or can i just go on chill mode for a while and just farm dailies and weeklies on my 1640?

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ohh i am leaning towards creating the same character, just bc im finally getting used to this class

stray goblet
marsh needle
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same class*

stray goblet
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idk if i missed anything

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i prolly did

snow hinge
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& that's it

stray goblet
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yes that too

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soul fist too

snow hinge
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Soulfist non positional?

stray goblet
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not sure

snow hinge
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What about pinnacle galvier?

stray goblet
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shes back attack

fallen jasper
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the easiest way to check is to open lost ark nexus and see the engravings

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hit master is nonpositional

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ambush master is back
master brawler is front

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each of these characters has one of these listed in their build. Except supports

nocturne shuttle
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guys how to get amethyst shards for now?

marsh needle
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if my core tripods are max leveled, are these character bound wishful amulets useless?

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T_T

spark cloud
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With the gem nerf they said coming. Gems cannot pass on other character?

fossil linden
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@outer mason claiming/harvesting from a t4 character still getting t3 fish..

wraith elbow
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any ways to know what are the bonus vs. in any raid of the game?

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like demons/beasts etc

marsh needle
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hello, today's the first day for me as a 1640.
what exactly are my "dailies" now? i no longer need to do the chaos dungeon and guardian raid i've been doing until now, right? these two dailies are replaced with new ones at 1640?

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(+ una task which still stays the same i think)

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as for weeklies, echnida hard, thaemine hard, behemoth are my top 3 gold earning content at the moment right?

stray goblet
marsh needle
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so i dont need to run the old chaos dungeon at all anymore?

snow hinge
stray goblet
marsh needle
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thank you thank you!

marble spruce
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I recently honed to 1615, and I unlocked voldis chaos dungeon, as a souleater, is this soloable?

stray goblet
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as all chars every chaos is soloable

marble spruce
fresh crater
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where do you get this gem?

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My free event gems were only lv 7 max

stray goblet
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also ur event gems are t4 7s

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oh mb this is from older event

fresh crater
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t4 is from challenge express event

fallen jasper
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u can't get this event gem

fresh crater
marsh needle
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hello how can i unlock these two dungeons?:

fresh crater
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is that north kurzan?

marsh needle
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yes

fresh crater
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its the raids

marsh needle
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which raids ? :0

fresh crater
marsh needle
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oh :c

static vapor
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Hiho
are legendary skins worth it?
even for main the price of ~250k is pretty high

marsh needle
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am i missing out a lot by not using the frog shop?

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i dont think i can spare gold on the frog shop although i do have 60k gold right now (ilevel 1640, only character)

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also, i am still unsure abt whether character bound wishful amulets become useless once core tripods are maxed

stray goblet
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they are

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u increase the tripods to lv 5 and leave them as they are

marsh needle
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if i run chaos dungeon at 1640, is there any disadvantages? (assuming icompleted the dailies for 1640)

marsh needle
marsh needle
stray goblet
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no no just core

marsh needle
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ooo okok but i can still use these wishful amulets on non core right?

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rather than throwingthem out

stray goblet
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yeah sure

marsh needle
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okok

stray goblet
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dont forget to max ur chaos tripods too @marsh needle

fallen jasper
marsh needle
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chaos tripods? O_o

stray goblet
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the build u use for chaos dungeon

marsh needle
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oh yeah i heard about the ignite servers

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they were quite generous i heard

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wish tehy brought it back xD

stray goblet
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best event so far

marsh needle
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is it true players were able to xfer their chars from ignite onto their main server?

fresh crater
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would love that rn

fresh crater
stray goblet
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i would expect them to do it in summer

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might be COPIUM

fresh crater
marsh needle
fresh crater
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nah i just looked at someones gear

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Is there a faster way to spawn epic gathering nodes? Like maybe harvesting nodes of other categories too? Or just farm the ones for the same category and pray?

fallen jasper
# fresh crater sad

You did raids with people for gold. Honing was made easier until 1620. When you reached a certain item level you had rewards when you transferred a character

  1. 1600
  2. 1610
  3. 1620
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so free t4 character 1640

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with gems 6/7 t4

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when u transfer on 1620

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It lasted for a few weeks and then they were removed

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on 1610 u got lv.9 t3 gems

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that's where he got those gems

marsh needle
#

is there any way to get a relic rapport gift selection chest?

olive void
#

!gold

marsh needle
#

gold? :0

vast oriole
buoyant dockBOT
#

Gold Sources

Tradable Gold

Tradable Gold is gold that can be used to purchase items from the Market/Auction House as well as be traded to other players.

  • Legion Commander Raids
  • Kazeros Raids
  • Abyssal Dungeons
  • Adventure Island Gold Reward
  • Fate Embers (gold is withheld)
  • Life Skills
  • Selling tradeable items on Marketplace/Auction House.
  • Content Bids
  • Completing Super Mokoko Express Events (gold is withheld)
  • Royal Crystal Exchange (gold is withheld)
Bound Gold

Bound Gold is used exclusively for progression systems.

  • Gold Reward Chests from Una's Tokens
  • Solo Mode Raids
marble spruce
#

planning to make an alt, is soulfist considered a swift class?

lavish groveBOT
#
The Ultimate Soulfist Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Soulfist class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

stray goblet
#

shes difficult tho

marble spruce
#

I don't mind difficult classes, everything can be learned with the proper dedication okay

sour cedar
#

hey has anyone a sharpshooter guide or a site ?

lavish groveBOT
#
The Ultimate Sharpshooter Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Sharpshooter class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

cosmic vault
#

Is it not possible to buy trade tools anymore? Online everywhere says general merchant or Trade Tool merchant but all the NPC's that were marked look to be removed, unless (and very likely) I'm missing something

outer mason
cosmic vault
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Got it, thank you! So the only way to do it now is to craft them

outer mason
sudden dome
#

is there anyone thats willing to explain how something work in call because i am stuck on it for some time now

neat swift
#

How much additional dmg % actually translates to total dmg? Does anyone have the formula?

trail hawk
#

add dmt is + dmg, out dmg is * dmg

graceful flame
#

how do i active the pet bonus for trade skills, just summon it?

jagged zinc
jagged zinc
jagged zinc
#

So 30% additional damage is 30% extra damage

graceful flame
#

omg

graceful flame
neat swift
woeful knot
#

what ilvl do i need to be to unlock hyper awakening

balmy plank
#

1640

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Finish north Kurzan & be level 60

woeful knot
#

so all these guides for 1620 raids im watching that keep saying to use hyper awakening are just gaslighting and lying to me then kittycryyell

trail hawk
#

theyre doing it with 1640+ chars kek

balmy plank
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1620 = 1640

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You gear transfer to Tier 4 1640 gear at 1620 for free

woeful knot
#

i was told to advance hone first to use all the mats i got from express since they become useless at ier 4

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and i cant advance hone until i do echidna

marsh needle
#

you just have to use up all your honor shards

woeful knot
#

and all the echidna raid vids ive watched have people mentioning hyper awakening wheeze

balmy plank
#

Just shards and solars cant be converted up to tier 4. You can use those

marsh needle
#

the other t3 mats can be converted to t4

woeful knot
#

so i dont need to worry about unlocking advanced honing?

balmy plank
#

You cna if you want. Its not binary

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If you have lots of shards and want to unlocks some adv honing with T3 shards. Do G1 echidna

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If you dont care and just want to get to tier 4 for all the new shiny stuff just transfer

woeful knot
#

what does oreha get converted into?

manic quarry
#

Higher orehas

balmy plank
#

Just more fusions

marsh needle
#

yellow version

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xD

balmy plank
#

Top is t3, bottom is t4. Its all just the samish stuff

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They all can convert up 5:1 form t3 to t4

woeful knot
#

it doesnt have oreha in the name so i assumed it was smth completely different

woeful knot
fresh crater
#

Is there any way to get more epic gathering nodes?

junior pelican
#

Does everyone get the message 'item not available due to maintenance' when trying to buy the Pictureposes with Amethyst Shards?

#

I didn't get this error when buying the Jumping pose

spiral wyvern
#

Any general tips on knowing when to stop early and reroll while doing transcendence?

balmy plank
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If youre getting down to 2 or no flowers then there is no reason at all to continue

woeful knot
balmy plank
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Nah

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Its fine to have 2 flowers on 1 level

woeful knot
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niuce ty

spiral wyvern
#

Does the difficulty go up as you get closer to 7?

shy chasm
#

Yes but it doesn't really matter if your lucky

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Difficultly is barely a factor just depends where you land on

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Ans where tiles are

livid fossil
#

There is no difficulty because when 20% to get 5roll and you get 1 anyway lol

#

Go until you can’t make it with 2 flowers and reset it

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Which happens alot

spiral wyvern
#

I feel like I wasted too many of the free rerolls early 😭

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Now I'm completely out of them, and only have a 20 pants and 17/20 glove 😦

lavish mortar
spiral wyvern
#

Oh okay, so it's something that I probably shouldn't be spending for gold for rerolls on?

lavish mortar
#

I'd spend gold to finish it, and then you can save up tickets for next alt so it's cheaper

dusk jacinth
#

Does anyone know which GS voice does the wooohoo thingy when using sniper skills?

civic valley
#

can i only run the chaos dung once a day? i read somewhere that i can do it twice but i only get 100 points

olive void
outer mason
quasi tree
civic valley
outer mason
civic valley
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ohhh gotcha

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thanks a lot

livid fossil
#

I rather run it once a day

sullen roost
#

I looked through like next 2 weeks but I don't see wildwater island appearing on the adventure island

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is it like a very rare spawn thing?

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it just says according to compass

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oh it says field boss schedule

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but still the only field boss on schedule is North Kurzan one

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oh I went there and it seems like (like all other Pre NK field bosses)

#

this also just respawns at the top of hour and you can get loot each time

spiral wyvern
#

where do most people go up to in their knowledge transfer on alts? Punika just to unlock tier 3?

livid fossil
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I don’t touch it 🤷

balmy plank
#

Some people do the msq, some people skip it. New characters ususally just use free powerpasses

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The first one to North Vern for 600g is practically free

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At a super bare minimum

livid fossil
#

Alts just get pp and I am happy

spiral wyvern
#

my alt is 1100 ilvl ready for tier 3 (need to do punika chaos dungeon to transfer gear), but it's only at north vern story right now. That's.. a lot to catch up on right?

balmy plank
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A decent bit

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You also have to pay for each stage so up to you whether you want to spend the gold

serene vine
#

any fast way of getting luminous shards

balmy plank
#

Those are the accessories, right?
If you want to buy a ton of extra gold you can fully refine accessories on alts, mail them to that character to dismantle. Or buy refined ones on the market if you have pheons and gold

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Event shops may have chests with them available

serene vine
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ok

spiral wyvern
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oh wait nvm I see it, yikes

outer mason
wraith elbow
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does it make sense to use advanced honing on t3gear (1620) or i just open the box to get to t4?

rose jewel
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at the very least temper

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(use shards to open them)

wraith elbow
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im not following you

rose jewel
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go to hone npc

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no wait

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have you beat echidna first of all

wraith elbow
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i've done solo mode echidna

rose jewel
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express or real solo

wraith elbow
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real solo

rose jewel
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then go to the hone npc

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adv hone tab

wraith elbow
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i have the quest to do

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1sec

rose jewel
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J>Guide

wraith elbow
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ok done

rose jewel
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do what it says

wraith elbow
rose jewel
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you see what it costs

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just temper all

wraith elbow
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what does that do?

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if i do this temper

rose jewel
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do it on the weapon

wraith elbow
rose jewel
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temper>adv.hone

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you see when you want to hone a piece you have to fill the EXP (shards)

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same shit different name

wraith elbow
#

so if i now get to t4 the weapon will be enhanced with this method?

rose jewel
#

no

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its an alternative path to honing

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but you aint doing it until the nerfs come

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temper the armors and when you run out of shards go to t4

wraith elbow
#

whats the difference between doing this tempering with my current t3 gear / doing temper on t4 gear?

rose jewel
#

materials

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youre in t3, costs t3 shards

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move to t4 and it costs t4 mats and shards

wraith elbow
#

the shards ur talking about the agris scales in the middle?

rose jewel
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shards can NOT be converted to t4 so they will go to total waste

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so you spend them and you save on t4 shards down the line

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no

wraith elbow
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ohhh the honor shards

rose jewel
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yes

wraith elbow
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so its just about saving shards

rose jewel
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these fuckers right here are wasted forever

wraith elbow
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ok clear

rose jewel
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so you just spend them on tempering

wraith elbow
#

what about agris scales? i have not enough to temper everything

rose jewel
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use the eyes

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they convert 2:1

wraith elbow
#

ohhh

rose jewel
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wait, its 1:2

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i think

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whatever 1 eyes = 2 scales

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by the time the nerf comes you should have a lot more eyes

wraith elbow
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yea fine, so if i understood right, when i get to t4, the new t4 gear will be already temper ready

rose jewel
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you can also buy them from solo shop weekly

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yes

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thats the whole purpose of tempering

wraith elbow
#

its also worth to open t3 shards pouch bound on roster to complete entire tempering?

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because i ran out of them rn

rose jewel
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leave them for an alt if you plan on doing one in the future

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you already know how fucking horrible it is to hone and you will always lack them

spiral wyvern
#

should i bother refining accessories i get at 1640 chaos dungeons, or wait until 1680 in the future?

rose jewel
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do you already have good ones (or at least usable) equiped

spiral wyvern
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i have the t3 ones from the power pass thing

rose jewel
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are you a leaf

spiral wyvern
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like, the mokoko status?

rose jewel
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the leaf for raids

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moko is the seed

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we'll go with yes coz you're new

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are the accessories high quality

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did you set up autodismantle

spiral wyvern
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um.. they're stuff like this with the 70 quality that came with them

rose jewel
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no, the t4 ones

spiral wyvern
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oh yeah, set it to minimum of 60 quality for auto

rose jewel
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bad

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dont set quality

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set for points

spiral wyvern
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did that too

rose jewel
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key word

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DONT set quality

spiral wyvern
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oh

rose jewel
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quality overrides points

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so you will get 61, 62, 63... accessories down the line

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points you will always get 67+

wraith elbow
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tought they were related somehow

rose jewel
#

a sec

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i was beating the shit of the even, im tired of it, it sucks ahhhhhhhhh

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leaf =/= seed

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seed means youre a new player or a player that doesnt have a character at 1620 in the roster, gives a lot of atk/def buffs and other stuff

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good for people barely learning, nothing much

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leaf means new or returnee within a set of rules, makes you get leaf tokens if you raid with people, people without a leaf that raid with you get veteran tokens

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use them in the event shop

wraith elbow
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what condition needs to be met in order to lose the leaf?

rose jewel
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1670+ or event ends

wraith elbow
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ohh thats a lot of time i can abuse 😛

#

thx for all the infos

spiral wyvern
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what's with these prices? o_O

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under the recent prices tab, so they sold right?

fresh crater
#

does transcendence also carry over when doing gear transfer?

also, what exactly does advanced honing even do? i did 1 lv now to get the rewards from the adv honing event, but what is the actual purpose of adv honing?

fresh crater
vast oriole
#

since you cant pity it

fresh crater
vast oriole
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yes

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because its +14

rose jewel
#

the pity is never getting great succ pepeW

vast oriole
#

and 1 adv honing

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its under it

fresh crater
#

but what do the adv honing lvls do

vast oriole
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+18 is 1680 base
+20 adv honing = +20ilvl = 1700

fresh crater
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oh

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wow

vast oriole
#

same as normal honing

rose jewel
#

literally 1ilv

fresh crater
#

1 lv per adv honing lv?

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thats so bad

vast oriole
#

its not

manic quarry
#

Bad? It's better than nothing

vast oriole
#

its way better than normal honing at some point

manic quarry
#

It's an addon

rose jewel
#

you say its bad, yet it costs less at higher normal hone thresholds

manic quarry
#

So it'll stay there

vast oriole
#

i mean if youre doing adv honing at 1640 ofc its bad

fresh crater
vast oriole
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and shouldnt be done

fresh crater
rose jewel
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thats why i said thresholds

fresh crater
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is there a way to get more of the agris scales? or just once per week raid?

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kinda want to just finish the armor part of the adv honing event now, so i can ignore the feature for a long time

rose jewel
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solo shop, buy eyes

fresh crater
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i alrdy bought all eyes this week

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can i buy scales with them somehow?

lavish mortar
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There's a "use replacement" button or smth iirc

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1 eye will be worth 2 scales

fresh crater
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oh ok, thx

marsh needle
#

hello guys, one of the enlightenment potions in the codex shows that the source is from sevek atun. is this an rng drop from killing it? also, if i die during a field boss, does that affect my rewards at all?

lavish mortar
marsh needle
#

so does dying not really affect rewards in this game?

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in a hyptothetical situation if i hit the boss once and die and dont revive ...

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id get the same rewards as someone whos been soloing it lets say?

lavish mortar
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Okay well if you do that you're prob not meeting min contribution requirements

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But min contrib=same rewards

marsh needle
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wow i see i see

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as a noob, is knowing the mechanics of a boss not enough to comfortably find parties at 1640?

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or is that pretty much the only thing gatekeeping..(i think thats what this is right) newbies?

fresh crater
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if you are lucky, you can sometimes just join some juicer party even without knowing mechanics and just win for free, not that i would ever do that though of course
they prob won't complain too mcuh either since you have mokoko leaf
at least for raids

lavish mortar
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Not nearly enough
Because why would I take a 1640 when I can wait 4 seconds for a bunch of 1660s :V

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But if you have koko leaf you can prob get in pretty easy regardless if people still want tokens

vast oriole
#

something worth noting is most people cleared the event shop already so they dont need mokoko leaf like before in their raids

marsh needle
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i feel like

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if there was like a lfg-newbie version

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the newbies could form parties and struggle it tgt

vast oriole
#

i mean

marsh needle
#

unless that already exists

lavish mortar
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That's called make a lobby and call it prog

vast oriole
#

newbies can do it

lavish mortar
#

You'll get plenty of people wanting to join tbh

vast oriole
#

but they dont and expect people to carry them

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or buy busses

tidal mortar
#

Guys how do I unlock the achievements for clearing NM and HM Kayangel and Akkan when there're apparently no groups for them...

rose jewel
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you look for people in other discords or you just dont get the achievs at all

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not like you need them

#

?lfg

buoyant dockBOT
#

We have lfgroup and lfstatic channels in each of our region categories (requires region role).
You can filter the postings by clicking on content relevant tags or even 'Learning Group'.
#1051258008853807174/#1051276943619792948/#1051285338569580564

Also check out some LFG/Learning dedicated Discords:
Lost Ark LFG (International): https://discord.gg/thelostarklfg
Mokoko elp (EU Central): https://discord.gg/mokokoelp
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Lost Ark Mokoko's (NA West): https://discord.gg/lost-mokokos
Mokoko Mentors & Co. (German) https://discord.gg/mokokomentors

spiral wyvern
#

as a 1640, can I basically not unlock my last row of enlightement?

lavish mortar
#

Then you get +3 points which let's you unlock it

rose jewel
#

assuming all pots obtained and combat 70

fresh crater
#

how do i change channel on the map? my party members earlier disappeared (but were still in party) on sevek athun and told me to go to channel 3, but i don't know how to do that
also, can i kill sevek multiple times a day to get soul of magma or is that also limited to the ocne per day clear reward?

rose jewel
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ctrl right click on their names and "move to same channel"

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no, once

fresh crater
#

thx
and sad

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how did they move to that channel in the first place tho?

rose jewel
#

they are there from the get go

fresh crater
#

hm but they were with me until they suddenly disappeared

lavish mortar
rose jewel
#

ah, moving channels

#

that

fresh crater
lavish mortar
#

Then there are no other channels atm

fresh crater
#

so it like depends on player number in area?

lavish mortar
#

They form and go away depending on player count

fresh crater
#

ok, thank you

livid fossil
#

lol

lavish mortar
# livid fossil lol

Am I losing 20k this week or not Susge
Less laughing more GRINDING THAEMINE TO DUST

spiral wyvern
#

can I do anything with character bound t3 honing books as a t4 now, like exchange/convert?

fresh crater
#

is this worth it? i dont need it rn, but maybe in the future when it pops up on another char?

turbid flame
#

books are 2.5k per on Na-e

fresh crater
#

yeah

turbid flame
#

convert that to royal crystal price for 5

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er, blue crystal

fresh crater
#

then it wouldnt be worth, but its not like i use the crystals for much else, right?

turbid flame
#

can get other mats with them, or skins you may want, a variety of things

lavish mortar
#

Best thing to spend your excess BC on is usually life energy

#

That does assume you're willing to burn all the LE though

turbid flame
#

thanks for reminding me to check the shop :p

rose jewel
turbid flame
#

give me the 250 potions, i'll give you 50% of the gold made from logging for all the hours 🤝

latent python
#

for the excavating mini game can you still exit out and do it all over again?

icy frost
#

Have anyone done the math for mari shop weapon 11-20 adv honing? It looks worthit but idk

rose jewel
latent python
#

yea just realized

paper walrus
#

you dont even lose the attempt when you fail

livid fossil
lavish mortar
livid fossil
lavish mortar
#

Goes down to 15k until u kill

lavish groveBOT
#
The Ultimate Shadowhunter Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Shadowhunter class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

alpine anvil
#

so in this game u can dodge thru stagger/displacements, but still eat the damage from the attack you've dodged thru

#

is that right?

obsidian valve
#

that sounds kinda like pvp, i'm more of a pve player myself 👀

paper walrus
#

this is also how armor on skills work

smoky scroll
#

what are the fieldboss spawn days?

paper walrus
#

press alt h

marsh needle
#

at 1640, should i continue to focus on honing?

thorny heath
marsh needle
#

(after dailies and weeklies)

#

i was looking at the horizontals

thorny heath
#

you mean like in general?

marsh needle
#

yeahh

smoky scroll
thorny heath
#

pretty much normal hone until 1660

#

with all the advanced honing scrolls it's viable to do advanced honing 1-10

#

once you are 1660

marsh needle
#

okok and theres no downsides of honing right away from 1640 right?

paper walrus
thorny heath
#

(nerfs are coming, but who know sif it'll be next month or in 6)

#

yeah no downsides

#

basically do whatever the calculator tells you to do

#

you input the prices of the mats, go for average scenario with optimised materials (should be the deafult option)

marsh needle
#

my primary focus of gold spending should be on honing right?

thorny heath
#

and it'll tell you if you should use extra materials while honing or not

#

kinda

#

is that your main?

marsh needle
#

yes

thorny heath
#

opinions differ

#

but imho getting to 1660

#

is the best thing to do

#

currently

marsh needle
#

is 1660 +20? .. or

#

& got it

thorny heath
#

getting to 1660 with regular honing

#

since aegir gear building takes quite a bit of time

#

things like gems and cards come over time

marsh needle
#

for 1660 what should each of my gear be beside their name?

#

(+20) etc

#

currently at 1640 it is +19 each

thorny heath
#

wait

#

is 1640 really +19?

marsh needle
#

oh wait

#

sorry i mean

#

+10

thorny heath
#

i got u

vast oriole
#

1660 is +14

thorny heath
#

ye

marsh needle
#

ooo okok thank you

fresh crater
#

at 1660, should my goal be to slowly grind week after week in aegir nm to craft ancient t4 and transfer or should i hone relic to +18?

thorny heath
#

you can keep honing since the gear can be transferred

#

and you keep your progress

#

unlike before transferring doesnt grant you bonus ilvls

fresh crater
#

yeah, but idk which way is better

thorny heath
#

it just increases the cap

#

realistically you shouldn't outpace the honing process with farming aegir gear

fresh crater
#

so honing is better for now?

thorny heath
#

both?

#

doesnt matter which piece you craft or hone

#

just keep honing

fresh crater
#

ok

thorny heath
#

if you hone the relic piece, eventually you'll transfer it to ancient

fresh crater
#

should i craft pieces as soon as i can or is there some reason to stay on full relic until i get full ancient? like maybe some set bonus that i dont see?

thorny heath
#

nah craft them piece by piece as soon as you can

#

weapon last

fresh crater
#

ok thx

thorny heath
#

im not sure how many more ark passive points you get since they reworked it

fresh crater
#

oh why last? i mean it takes the most pieces, but isnt weapon usually the ost important?

thorny heath
#

but you used to get more ark passive points from the gear

turbid flame
#

weapon doesn't give evo points

#

for ark passive

fresh crater
#

oh ok

turbid flame
#

so least prio

thorny heath
#

the upgrade from relic to ancient doesnt give any bonuses

#

on weapon

#

yeah

fresh crater
#

thx

vast oriole
#

you go 1660 and then wait for the ah nerf

fresh crater
#

i am 1660 xd

vast oriole
#

oh

#

then yeah you shoudl wait

fresh crater
#

should i not still normal hone?

vast oriole
#

or at least wait till roadmap

thorny heath
#

i dont think theres gonna be a nerf to normal honing

#

anytime soon

#

so normal honing is "safe" I'd say

fresh crater
#

ok

vast oriole
#

yes but its better to ah at 16 usually

#

but with the nerfs

#

can go ah before that

fresh crater
#

its really expensive now anyway, so not sure i will get far atm with normal hone xd

vast oriole
#

just stack mats and gold

#

and wait for ah

#

it will be free

fresh crater
#

how long can we estimate for the nerf?

vast oriole
#

we dont know

turbid flame
#

1-12 months

#

😏

fresh crater
#

is it in kr alrdy?

vast oriole
#

thats why i said wait at leats for roadmap

#

roadmap is in beginnign of april

#

yes kr has them

#

and we have qol and nerfs fast

fresh crater
#

ok

#

well, just prayge i guess

#

i wouldve loved to get to brel soon, but will be slow from here on either way

vast oriole
#

brel isnt even fun

#

too nerfed

#

and you lose mokoko leaf at 1670

#

if you have it

fresh crater
#

oh

thorny heath
#

arna said wait before

#

my books went from 70k to 110k

#

if you cant wait, you can normal hone

obsidian valve
#

arna knows all 👑 💖 ✨

vast oriole
#

hes a mokoko

thorny heath
#

if you wanna be efficient, you can try to wait a little bit longer

vast oriole
#

<why would he go 1670

frail cloud
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anyone can help create a steam account for me? im im MENA and can't play

thorny heath
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cuz bro cant wait apparently

fresh crater
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well if i lose leaf at 1670 id rather farm for more gold, elixirs etc from event

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before going there

vast oriole
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im waiting to do ah on those

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this 1670 was almost pitying everything

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if i knew we would get ah nerf

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i wouldve never normal honed

thorny heath
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oh also

obsidian valve
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(me still struggling to get 1680 KEKW )

thorny heath
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wheres the discord inv link

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cant find it anywhere

fresh crater
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do you get mokoko tokens from any raid? like could i still do older raids technically to get them?

thorny heath
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am i blind

fresh crater
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oh, so thaemine too i think then? but like not akkan etc.?

fresh crater
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sad, but i guess, at least 5 sources per week for me now

vital tinsel
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bros I'm sick of the mokoko discrimination. Jailed in g2 echidna and people get charmed, cause us to wipe like 5x but as soon as I screw up ft

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"yikes new mokokos" followed by vote quit

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take my leaf away I don't want it

thorny heath
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kek

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try not to be offended

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we all know what we're getting ourselves into

frail cloud
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any help guys?

vast oriole
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people are dumb

thorny heath
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more mature people wouldnt blame the leafs

thorny heath
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if i see the leaf my expectations are rock bottom

frail cloud
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@vast oriole tried and doesnt work

vast oriole
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others fucked up multiple times before him

vital tinsel
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I did screw up but it was like the last pull

frail cloud
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i got a gmail and everything, just need a sign up and add game from anyone's side lol

vast oriole
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you know how to do ft and you just fucked up or you dont know?

fresh crater
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btw should i even buy more transcendence ruin tickets? all my armor is at 20+ and my weapon is at 17, just waiting for reset to get scales for 20 on that.

vital tinsel
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yea I just moved early

fresh crater
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there are like multiple sources for the tickets, but i feel like i dont need it, still have 20

vast oriole
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oh ok

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all good then

vast oriole
vast oriole
fresh crater
vast oriole
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idk if i would buy them

vital tinsel
vast oriole
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tbh

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i dont expect leaf to dps personally

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i just expect them to say if they dont know the raid

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but thats about it

vital tinsel
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Ya idk. There's been a shift lol

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2 weeks ago mokoko was VIP ticket to free carry

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now it's hard to get in lobbies

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and jailed all the time

vast oriole
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because most people cleared their shop

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so they dont need leafs anymore

fresh crater
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still a lot of weekly stuff too tho

vast oriole
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i still have 900 tokens

marsh needle
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hello, adv honing is not a replacement for normal honing right?

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theyre separate?

vital tinsel
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I guess I should just do solo mode until transc is completed or something

vital tinsel
marsh needle
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okok thank you

vast oriole
marsh needle
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i see i see

vast oriole
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and dont do advanced honing till we get the nerfs

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shouldnt be that much to wait

marsh needle
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right i am very well aware of that now

thorny heath
marsh needle
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heard it too many times

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LOL

vast oriole
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xD

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this shop was way easier to complete than the first one

thorny heath
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understandable

fresh crater
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how much do you get per run?

vast oriole
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uh

turbid flame
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think I got.... 30 per wing of Behemoth?

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or is that total

marsh needle
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are the t4 honing books worth buying with gold? or should i always hold off on honing until i have them from events?

turbid flame
obsidian valve
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last time i did it felt like 20k or so, i don't run behemoth much anymore because it felt too chaotic KEKW

fresh crater
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20k tokens?

vast oriole
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Behemoth: 70

Thaemine HM 1-3: 60

Echidna HM: 70

aegir nm : 80

obsidian valve
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oops thought you meant gold, my bad

fresh crater
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thx

vast oriole
fresh crater
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i was told if leaf runs with other leaf, they get expert token too, but do they still also get normal token then or just expert?

vast oriole
obsidian valve
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all da sheets KEKW

vast oriole
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leaf only get mokoko ones

fresh crater
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hm, maybe i do have to go 1670 then in time to clear expert shop too

vital tinsel
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Yea the shop for actual mokokos is trash LOL

vast oriole
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its as u want

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if you think you will get taken in group, sure

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but i still dont recommend honing

fresh crater
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yeah its expensive for sure

vast oriole
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its 3k leaps

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and thats average

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2k orehas cost a lot aswell

obsidian valve
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need more leaps and abidos please KEKDog

fresh crater
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but i also need the mokoko legion commander title

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that alone is worth it

vast oriole
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leaps arent that bad now since the price went down a lot

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but abidos hurts

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red mats too

vital tinsel
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I'm sad we can't get the title

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The shards are a joke from koko shop

fresh crater
vital tinsel
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you get like 150

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A chaos dg does more than your weekly limit

fresh crater
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i need to actually take a look at when it would be best to go 1670 to get the most out of it

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in the end the stuff from mokoko shop is still useful, but i get the same stuff from expert shop

vital tinsel
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The stuff is fine, the limits are pretty atrocious

fresh crater
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yeah

vital tinsel
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The only one that makes sense is the hellfire books maybe

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The shard bag limits make no sense

fresh crater
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even on books, they could just increase it a little, i also dont like that the raids give you books for alts, rather than for your current char

vital tinsel
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Honestly with these limits the mokoko shop should be per char per week. At least that would make more sense

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except the gold bars maybe

fresh crater
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but as mokoko you usually wouldnt have multiple chars in the ilvl to clear those raids

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unless you buy passes

vital tinsel
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Well new mokoko maybe not, lots of returner mokokos though (like me)