#lost-ark-help
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It’s the 1-10 or 11-20 unlock
I see i see
It’s what uses the echidna mats
And iirc tempering requires scales and eyes right?
just cales
Yes
Which is this right
Yessss okayyy okay
I m starting to understand
to start it
Altho the hm mats can be used for 1-10 as well
I still have so many questions
The hm mats are in solo shop
I wouldn’t do any advanced honing other than spending t3 shards and juice until roadmap comes out.
Kr just got a cost nerf. Question is just when we get it.
April qol update 
Keep huffing that cope
Tempering requires t3 mats while adv honing req eyes and scales, is this correct?
It requires t3 shards if you’re in t3
As soon as you equip t4 armor it requires t4 stuff
tempering is opening adv hone
its the same thing
just go to the npc and you can see what it asks for
@rose jewel he only has 1 char @marsh needle i was suggesting him to transition to 1640 (he has mokoko and is sitting 1620) and reap the benefits
i was stating that he was refering to the same thing
adv hone does not require eyes/scale, thats temper, but adv hone uses the tier of the armor he's using
He should temper first and spend any juice as long as he’s not waiting.
ideally ya given he has the mats for it
idk if its worth sitting out on 3 higher tier raids given his circumstances
It’s not. Use up any t3 shards for tempering. Do as many ah taps as you have juice for, then transfer.
if i buy a powerpass to north kurzan, do i still get the challenge express?
i did express on destro alt 
But other than that express can be applied up to 1640
But it’s not per char.
It’s once per account.
oh sad
yep, the best events are
The pass plus express thing happens a few times per year. 2-4.
yeah was just thinking of maybe boosting an alt with pass, but without express is a bit meh
express is one per region
have i possibly missed the timing to use the challenge express? i just used the kurzan powerpass on an alt i had but i cant find the challenge express anywhere? is it only for new characters?
doesnt help his cause but better to correct the info
express starts at 1580
once per region
no you cant use it on several chars, no you cant switch it to another server
wdym starts at 1580, my chaarcter had to be below it first?
yeah thats fine, i used it already on EUC, i want to use it on a roster i have on NA
yeah my character was 1580 and i used the powerpass to to get 1585 since i didnt have any characters lower than that. this is my first time using a powerpass on a character thats already lvld so i wasnt sure if that might have affected it
you can powerpass it to 1580 and then use it but you need 1580 to start it
ims aying i cant see the express 
u can use it on NA given you havent already
well
have you relogged already
also throw us a screenshot please of the whole screen
i smell user error somewhere
phonescreen shot for extra points 
so until i see the screen not showing the thing i dont believe it
10 silver in game this is a yes
do you have another character in another server
on NAE
how do i get these 2 mokokos on phantomwing island?
i did have another roster on NA but i promise i haven't touched it in almost a year
the guide only shows screenshot not how to get there
In this video guide I show you how to get Phantomwing Island Soul in Lost Ark. Phantomwing island is located south east of Rohendel. It's an adventure island so check your procyon's compass if it's available. There are multiple cooperative quests chained together and in the third one a boss called Adrinne spawns. You can get the Phantomwing Isla...
would u like another screenshot 
thx
the power of youtube.. np
ignore the stats i literally just used the pass so havent sorted anything out yet besides equipping the new gear
i have to ask this annoying stuff because GOD KNOWS that its always something so extremely simple and people always say yes and it ends up being a no
XD fair i should check there more
yes, and maxroll 🙂
yeah maxroll is where i chcked
so, have you relogged at all
if those don't work hit us up 
but they didnt say how to get to it
go to char select screen and back
funny enough that was the first thing i did
i will try closing the game completely and reopening it now tho
i just got here so i might've missed that part 
well
how bout you go and see your other roster
because that's a very high lv roster for something new
yeah im not a new player i started this game the year it came out and stopped playing this roster last july
and am now back
oh pff, ofc they didnt show how to get to it, you just walk through a hidden path, nothing special to do, but its not really that visible before you walk through it
do you have any other character 1580+
ya my whole roster is 1580+ on this server
i swear if i did imma kms
now that u say that, i do remember logging on my main for like 5 minutes over a month ago
i couldnt have..

yep i'd say at least 60% of the seeds are like that, maybe more 
i still need to get back to mokoko seeds actually, been taking a break to hone 😭
idk when i checked how to get the north kurzan ones, its so dumb, no way you would just randomly figure that out while playing
for the last mokoko seeds on north kurzan i need to wait for world boss to spawn again
Hey guys, sorry for the lengthy message, but this should cover all my questions for a while. I’d really appreciate your answers—explaining my situation should help tailor your advice to me:
Situation:
I'm working on the most efficient way to reach T4 with my only character, started at 1600 via power pass, now at 1620 after completing the Mokoko Challenge Express (still have the Mokoko leaf for the token shop). Last night, I got a chest with T3 mats, including 300k honor shards, which become unusable in T4. I have 1 gold-earning raid left and haven’t cleared Thaemine or Echnida (both offer first-time rewards). I’ve been advised to: clear Echnida, temper pieces, use shards, go to T4, get hyper awakening, clear Thaemine, then start transcendence.
Questions:
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Should I try finding a normal Echnida group to maximize Mokoko token shop rewards, gold, and mats? I’m weak for parties, but if the reward gap is big, I’ll study the raid and try finding a party until Wednesday’s gold reset.
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Tempering uses scales (solo/normal), eyes (hard), and shards. Since hard mode unlocks at 1630, won’t this take weeks alternating normal/hard?
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Is “go to T4” just transferring my gear into the relic set from the challenge express?
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After hyper awakening, can I still do Thaemine hard group raid without gold-earning slots left and get non-gold rewards?
in those 5 minutes i last logged onto this character i guess i used the express and then just never came back 
which honestlyu idk why the fck i did that, i woulve preferred using it in combination with the powerpass like i always do i guess maybe i was drunk that night
i apologise to those who tried to help my stupidity
xdding
1- No, solo, temper and go t4
2- You ain't adv. honing anytime soon in t4, you're waiting for a massive nerf coming in god knows when, we all are
3- Yes
4- Yes
did you hone your main back then
^ this
or recently
no
i just dm'd you how much gold you're going to make given you abuse your mokoko @marsh needle so every week you relish sitting 1620 instead of , 1640 you're missing out on 50k+ gold
wait, so is it like i shouldnt do advanced honing until nerf or i should do as much as possible now before nerf?
oh yeah it wasn't too bad, it just gives a buff when he dies, but at least it's not rng lol
also, there was the incentive for more enlightenment points so i just grabbed the seeds while working on that
do you need more arrows
i haven't even touched south kurzan seeds yet lol
the attack of the red giant arrows 
see i saw that and that would be a great thing to click on
but the thing is
you will be left with a pitiful amount of materials when you reach 1620, use them all then jump
im 1645 rn
upon using the express i seem to have also taken 3 of the boxes from the express since my character was already 1610 
so it will affect already used advanced honing too?
yep that's the hardest part, but at least finding people to do it with won't be an issue haha
doesn't matter, the express gives honing cost reduction + other things, if you really want to switch main or just hone the slayer or whatever class it was, switch it
you either keep it there or switch for the benefits
how do you get this?
yeah but its up for 150k rn XD
apparently its from ark pass season 2 but from what i can see rn, the pass skin should be in shop too normally
if honing is the only thing that locks the change then i guess i did hone
my character is 1610.83 so i think i literally used the express, claimed the rewards, honed ONCE then logged off and never looked back for over a month
so, the button is grey
again, i apologise for my stupidity 
yes 
lol
im already crying so u can if u want to
is lower lv transcendence always easier to get grade 3 than higher lv?
i mean it trolls me most of the time anyway XD
but at least im almost at full 20+ now
so glad they nerfed it 
not yet for us
nerfed in what way?
less gold req
oh that wouldve been nice XD
Isn’t it like a 50% cost reduction in kr?
30

now all is 20+ but i need more scales for last weapon on lv D:
50 was for adv h
scales are so slow
well technically reworked it i guess, alot less time consuming
time-constraint nerf 
true lol
gate 3 Thaemine dead yet? 😏
oof
hate to hear that
Yeah it sparked and then I smell burnt stuff and it was ok few days then it would not even charge
Get a diagnosis probably Tuesday and then hopefully get back by end of the week if lucky
G3 would have been done since I am am pretty good with clash and I can do typing mech I think if I hyper after typing he be dead
ok so adv honing is not worth until nerf right? but is it still worth to do it for the adv honing mission rn?
hmm
i bet it'll cost a lot more than it will give back
unless the mission is to just tap a few times
then its ok, but to lv5 i dont think so
event goes till 4/23, copium that adv honing in for us by then
xd
i guess i will just try to do it near the end to see if update comes, at least for the ones that only need a few attempts
how do you get more Indigo Island coins
do the dungeon on indigo island once a dasy
after I hit 1620 on my alt where do i go to get the 1640 skip?
If youre using the Express youll get a chest for a free set. Otherwise finish N Kurzan and do Kenuart Fortress until you have a full set
Similarish to chaos dungeon
I sold my old t10 gems and quit a year ago. How hard is it to get back into game? Has the game gotten better?
Different flavor of the same old shit
Nop
Lots of good qol. Solo raids and such
Express event is going on now so it's not a bad timer to get into it
Can pick it back up to play for a month and quit again.
This is help chat, not doomer chat
I'm sorry :(
It honestly is a really good time to just pick it back up and play.
I don't know how long you'd like to stay, but it is for a returner.
At the end of the day game are for fun. If you get a month or two of fun great, if more awesome. Just don't sell your gems this time
I quit right around time Akkan came out. Running that on 6 chars on launch was … something
There are less dailies, faster chaos, T4 chaos is faster. Solo raids, Arkesia Tour too catch up on horizontal
Just play one character, no need to fomo.
If you're not against the loli type of character, the new class is 10/10 fun on both spec.
subjective
Then it's my subjective take, grump. :(
New class is big funny 
cant find the option to turn off screen shake T-T anyone able to help me
im blind :/
Whats the standard lvl for t4 gems ppl accept nowadays?
@vast oriole as i suspected prices went up after the frog 😂
6s & 7s do well for most things. As always for the highest content like HM Brel its better to have higher for gatekeeping
this, 7s used to be fine, now 8s are somewhat of a standard for hm brel currently
i only see people with 7s accepted if they're severely overhoned ilvl wise
or some serious relic engravings
(or, you know, they're supports)
i got no trouble with my 1660 and 1670 bard & artist joining groups with only lvl 5 t4 gems
7s are just fine for clearing hm brel to be clear
Just gatekeeping reasons you need more :V
Like flow said though, 6s with a couple 7s on big skills should be plenty for quite awhile
Thanks everyone, that's good standards to know. Currently on NM brel so quiet a journey I still have left till hm brel but trying to fix my old character
Ripped some t3 lv10 gems off my deadge striker lol
What class are ya on?
Might be worth keeping some t3 lvl 10 rather than converting them all up to t4
RE db, ik the base stat for t3 10 > t4 8. But there's the bonus outgoing dmg which idk constitutes a higher value
Tldr, skill that does over 25% of your total damage you do not convert (like your surge)
Everything else you convert
Makes sense, I saw a dmg distribution chart for db's on nexus but it did mention old so I wasn't sure how accurate it is now
hello, should i buy the extra chest for thaemine g1 clear?
(also for g2 and g3 as well)
If you need the trans mats, otherwise, no.
hello, after hitting 1620, i cleared echnida solo -> tempered 3 pieces of gear (all i could temper), and have 196k honor shards left.. i should adv hone until im left with no shards and then transition to t4, is this correct?
and although echnida was my last gold earning, i wanted to try practice thaemine, so i started a solo run, and after clearing g1, im now realizing ill end up with even more t3 honor shards bc of thaemine ... i should have t4'd before entering thaemine, to get t4 nats right? 😭
ohhh whew ok thank you
Do we know if the Adv Honing nerfs gonna affect tier 3 as well or is it just t4
They didn’t specify so most likely yes
tier 2 honing mats bound to character are unusable and cannot be converted to higher tiers, right?
so safe to throw away?
these are also character bound, but my gear pieces are already all +19... should i throw these out as well? (all 7 items in the screenshots are untradable)
you can throw away t2 bound mats yep
fusion mats can be converted 5:1 to the next step/tier at the "Legion Raid Exchange" NPC
Hello! Anyone on EU servers can help me with the barrier in Mount Zagoras?
Those can be traded up
so... just got my main (Artist) to 1640 ilvl and unlocked hyper awakening, and wondering what I should start prioritizing now. I think for now don't worry about honing past 1640, but should I start investing all my resources into alts to make more gold, or should I be spending gold to on my main? Things I can think of to work on are...
- full set of useful tier 4 accessories with high quality, decent rolls + enlightenment (still using tier 3)
- tier 4 soulstone with decent engraving rolls (still using tier 3)
- transcendence (only have pants level 7, gloves level 6 (17/20), no more free rerolls)
- elixirs (only level 35 sum)
- T4 accessories: yes
- T4 ability stones: yes. If your T3 stone is really good, you can upgrade it to T4 at the Ability Stone NPC
- Transcendence & Elixirs: yes, big power spikes
- Pushing other characters to T4 is mega expensive right now without an express - going 1640-1660 is cheaper than going 1585-1620, so maybe focus on your main for now
Trans > Elixirs > 1660 honing
Sadly pushing alts beyond 1585 is not worth it and it'll just cost you ALOT and it's not worth, better wait for express event to push alts, or wait for the nerfs (copium).
In terms of accessories, having quality 70+ is the minimum (which is totally fine), pushing for better rolls is okayish but no need to spend pheons on them (personal opinion) .. u can get them by time and work on them.
Better to convert ur t3 10 on surge
oh, i have one alt that's like.. 1490 ilvl. Would pushing 5 alts to 1585 be my highest priority then compared to everything else I listed for my main?
hello, im currently in the process of tempering my gear. i've tempered 4 pieces of gear (all i could temper with the amount of scales i had), but i still have about 110k honor shards left over. should i go ahead and adv hone one of the pieces to exhaust my honor shards?
this is where im at currently
at the current state, i can go ahead and transfer?
even though i have about 100k honor shards
(as you can probably tell, i thought i was supposed to use up at least my honor shards before transfer, so i already was in the process)
why does the triport between Yorn and Voldis not work btw?
because they are two different continents? 
what can i do with the old gear after gear transfer?
theyre untradable, bc they were given from power pass
dismantle them
Hey guys, what are the non-positional classes in the game?
theres an npc in town for mat convert generaly close to hone npc
yeap, so ill go ahead and convert them all
Temper your gear first before transferring to t4
yup, done all that
i used up all my honor shards, only have 357 left
ahhh feels sooo good to complete everything and now at 1640 T_T
next hurdle, 1660 xd
Time to make alts to 1580 if you enjoy playing multiple classes & for more gold income weekly
will i have to make an alt asap, or can i just go on chill mode for a while and just farm dailies and weeklies on my 1640?
ohh i am leaning towards creating the same character, just bc im finally getting used to this class
wild soul, aeromancer, artilerist, arcana, sharp shooter, sorc, soul eater, gun slinger (both specs) bk breaker, di shadow hunter, pistoleer deadeye
same class*
I'm guessing eso wardancer
& that's it
Soulfist non positional?
not sure
What about pinnacle galvier?
shes back attack
the easiest way to check is to open lost ark nexus and see the engravings
hit master is nonpositional
ambush master is back
master brawler is front
each of these characters has one of these listed in their build. Except supports
guys how to get amethyst shards for now?
if my core tripods are max leveled, are these character bound wishful amulets useless?
T_T
With the gem nerf they said coming. Gems cannot pass on other character?
@outer mason claiming/harvesting from a t4 character still getting t3 fish..
any ways to know what are the bonus vs. in any raid of the game?
like demons/beasts etc
hello, today's the first day for me as a 1640.
what exactly are my "dailies" now? i no longer need to do the chaos dungeon and guardian raid i've been doing until now, right? these two dailies are replaced with new ones at 1640?
(+ una task which still stays the same i think)
as for weeklies, echnida hard, thaemine hard, behemoth are my top 3 gold earning content at the moment right?
chaos is replaced with kurzan front which is basically the same thing rest is the same
Argeos & kurzan front
so i dont need to run the old chaos dungeon at all anymore?
Yes
You don't, it'll only give u t3 mats which u don't need
no u need to do the all of the kurzan msqs to access to kurzan front
thank you thank you!
I recently honed to 1615, and I unlocked voldis chaos dungeon, as a souleater, is this soloable?
as all chars every chaos is soloable
alright, thank you 
u buy em
also ur event gems are t4 7s
oh mb this is from older event
the powerpass gave t3 lv 7
t4 is from challenge express event
this is from ignite servers
u can't get this event gem
damn, what is ignite servers?
hello how can i unlock these two dungeons?:
is that north kurzan?
yes
its the raids
which raids ? :0
oh :c
Hiho
are legendary skins worth it?
even for main the price of ~250k is pretty high
am i missing out a lot by not using the frog shop?
i dont think i can spare gold on the frog shop although i do have 60k gold right now (ilevel 1640, only character)
also, i am still unsure abt whether character bound wishful amulets become useless once core tripods are maxed
if i run chaos dungeon at 1640, is there any disadvantages? (assuming icompleted the dailies for 1640)
only the core, right?
just do kurzan front
or should i try to max all tripods for my char?
no no just core
ooo okok but i can still use these wishful amulets on non core right?
rather than throwingthem out
yeah sure
okok
dont forget to max ur chaos tripods too @marsh needle
it was a long time ago. Event where there was a separate server with improvements
chaos tripods? O_o
the build u use for chaos dungeon
sad
oh yeah i heard about the ignite servers
they were quite generous i heard
wish tehy brought it back xD
basically a server that gives u free endgame char and u cant p2w there
best event so far
is it true players were able to xfer their chars from ignite onto their main server?
i mean how else would i have seen a person with a gem from that event xd

oo i htought u found that on reddit or somethin xD
nah i just looked at someones gear
Is there a faster way to spawn epic gathering nodes? Like maybe harvesting nodes of other categories too? Or just farm the ones for the same category and pray?
You did raids with people for gold. Honing was made easier until 1620. When you reached a certain item level you had rewards when you transferred a character
- 1600
- 1610
- 1620
so free t4 character 1640
with gems 6/7 t4
when u transfer on 1620
It lasted for a few weeks and then they were removed
on 1610 u got lv.9 t3 gems
that's where he got those gems
is there any way to get a relic rapport gift selection chest?
!gold
gold? :0
?gold
Gold Sources
Tradable Gold is gold that can be used to purchase items from the Market/Auction House as well as be traded to other players.
- Legion Commander Raids
- Kazeros Raids
- Abyssal Dungeons
- Adventure Island Gold Reward
- Fate Embers (gold is withheld)
- Life Skills
- Selling tradeable items on Marketplace/Auction House.
- Content Bids
- Completing Super Mokoko Express Events (gold is withheld)
- Royal Crystal Exchange (gold is withheld)
Bound Gold is used exclusively for progression systems.
- Gold Reward Chests from Una's Tokens
- Solo Mode Raids
planning to make an alt, is soulfist considered a swift class?
shes difficult tho
I don't mind difficult classes, everything can be learned with the proper dedication 
hey has anyone a sharpshooter guide or a site ?
Is it not possible to buy trade tools anymore? Online everywhere says general merchant or Trade Tool merchant but all the NPC's that were marked look to be removed, unless (and very likely) I'm missing something
you can buy trade skill craft kit from the Market (Alt+Y), then craft the tool in your stronghold
Got it, thank you! So the only way to do it now is to craft them
you can buy green life skill tools from general merchants
you can get blue life skill tools from a questline in luterra (Lakebar I think)
Anything above that (epic, legendary, relic) is either from random loot while doing life skills, or buying the craft kit from the market
is there anyone thats willing to explain how something work in call because i am stuck on it for some time now
How much additional dmg % actually translates to total dmg? Does anyone have the formula?
add dmt is + dmg, out dmg is * dmg
how do i active the pet bonus for trade skills, just summon it?
Pet bonuses only work for stronghold
Don't spread misinfo
Additional damage is just another multiplier
So 30% additional damage is 30% extra damage
thanks for info
cheers
what ilvl do i need to be to unlock hyper awakening
so all these guides for 1620 raids im watching that keep saying to use hyper awakening are just gaslighting and lying to me then 
theyre doing it with 1640+ chars kek
i was told to advance hone first to use all the mats i got from express since they become useless at ier 4
and i cant advance hone until i do echidna
you just have to use up all your honor shards
and all the echidna raid vids ive watched have people mentioning hyper awakening 
Just shards and solars cant be converted up to tier 4. You can use those
the other t3 mats can be converted to t4
so i dont need to worry about unlocking advanced honing?
You cna if you want. Its not binary
If you have lots of shards and want to unlocks some adv honing with T3 shards. Do G1 echidna
If you dont care and just want to get to tier 4 for all the new shiny stuff just transfer
what does oreha get converted into?
Higher orehas
Just more fusions
Top is t3, bottom is t4. Its all just the samish stuff
They all can convert up 5:1 form t3 to t4
ohhh thats what that is
it doesnt have oreha in the name so i assumed it was smth completely different
well i've got 400k shards so i guess i'll do g1 to unlock the ability to adv hone since its annoying me thats its locked until i do it
Is there any way to get more epic gathering nodes?
Does everyone get the message 'item not available due to maintenance' when trying to buy the Pictureposes with Amethyst Shards?
I didn't get this error when buying the Jumping pose
Any general tips on knowing when to stop early and reroll while doing transcendence?
You need 20/21 possible flowers to finish a piece. If you have 1 turn left and there is no way to finish with 3 flower? end it. Can you do it in 2? You just have to read the board
If youre getting down to 2 or no flowers then there is no reason at all to continue
you only need to get 20 flowers max right for the transcendence effect so i shouldnt stress about trying to get 21 right?
niuce ty
Does the difficulty go up as you get closer to 7?
Yes but it doesn't really matter if your lucky
Difficultly is barely a factor just depends where you land on
Ans where tiles are
There is no difficulty because when 20% to get 5roll and you get 1 anyway lol
Go until you can’t make it with 2 flowers and reset it
Which happens alot
I feel like I wasted too many of the free rerolls early 😭
Now I'm completely out of them, and only have a 20 pants and 17/20 glove 😦
Nah you burn through em fast, but they give them out pretty consistently so I would stress about it
Oh okay, so it's something that I probably shouldn't be spending for gold for rerolls on?
I'd spend gold to finish it, and then you can save up tickets for next alt so it's cheaper
Does anyone know which GS voice does the wooohoo thingy when using sniper skills?
can i only run the chaos dung once a day? i read somewhere that i can do it twice but i only get 100 points
Thank you!
you could do 2x chaos dungeons per day
now it's one per day
Saw this on reddit but idk whats the cause of it
wait so they nerfed it?
nah it's a quality of life
you get x2 the rewards compared to before
I rather run it once a day
I looked through like next 2 weeks but I don't see wildwater island appearing on the adventure island

is it like a very rare spawn thing?
it just says according to compass
oh it says field boss schedule
but still the only field boss on schedule is North Kurzan one
oh I went there and it seems like (like all other Pre NK field bosses)
this also just respawns at the top of hour and you can get loot each time

where do most people go up to in their knowledge transfer on alts? Punika just to unlock tier 3?
I don’t touch it 🤷
They just do whatever they need. You still have to hone manually inbetween each stage
Some people do the msq, some people skip it. New characters ususally just use free powerpasses
The first one to North Vern for 600g is practically free
At a super bare minimum
Alts just get pp and I am happy
my alt is 1100 ilvl ready for tier 3 (need to do punika chaos dungeon to transfer gear), but it's only at north vern story right now. That's.. a lot to catch up on right?
A decent bit
You also have to pay for each stage so up to you whether you want to spend the gold
any fast way of getting luminous shards
Those are the accessories, right?
If you want to buy a ton of extra gold you can fully refine accessories on alts, mail them to that character to dismantle. Or buy refined ones on the market if you have pheons and gold
Event shops may have chests with them available
ok
wait so I'd have to pay like... 1000 (rohendel) + 1400 (yorn) + 1600 (feiton) + 2400 (punika) for a total of 6400 gold?
oh wait nvm I see it, yikes
yep... Knowledge Transfer are increasingly more expensive, and you need each step
does it make sense to use advanced honing on t3gear (1620) or i just open the box to get to t4?
im not following you
i've done solo mode echidna
express or real solo
real solo
J>Guide
do what it says
do it on the weapon
temper>adv.hone
you see when you want to hone a piece you have to fill the EXP (shards)
same shit different name
so if i now get to t4 the weapon will be enhanced with this method?
no
its an alternative path to honing
but you aint doing it until the nerfs come
temper the armors and when you run out of shards go to t4
whats the difference between doing this tempering with my current t3 gear / doing temper on t4 gear?
the shards ur talking about the agris scales in the middle?
shards can NOT be converted to t4 so they will go to total waste
so you spend them and you save on t4 shards down the line
no
ohhh the honor shards
yes
so its just about saving shards
ok clear
so you just spend them on tempering
what about agris scales? i have not enough to temper everything
ohhh
wait, its 1:2
i think
whatever 1 eyes = 2 scales
by the time the nerf comes you should have a lot more eyes
yea fine, so if i understood right, when i get to t4, the new t4 gear will be already temper ready
you can also buy them from solo shop weekly
yes
thats the whole purpose of tempering
its also worth to open t3 shards pouch bound on roster to complete entire tempering?
because i ran out of them rn
leave them for an alt if you plan on doing one in the future
you already know how fucking horrible it is to hone and you will always lack them
should i bother refining accessories i get at 1640 chaos dungeons, or wait until 1680 in the future?
do you already have good ones (or at least usable) equiped
i have the t3 ones from the power pass thing
are you a leaf
like, the mokoko status?
the leaf for raids
moko is the seed
we'll go with yes coz you're new
are the accessories high quality
did you set up autodismantle
um.. they're stuff like this with the 70 quality that came with them
no, the t4 ones
oh yeah, set it to minimum of 60 quality for auto
did that too
oh
quality overrides points
so you will get 61, 62, 63... accessories down the line
points you will always get 67+
thx for the guide, i have another question regarding the mokoko/leaf stuff.
once reached 1620 i noticed i dont have anymore the mokoko icon next to my name
but when i create /join a raid lobby i still have the leaf, how so?
tought they were related somehow
a sec
i was beating the shit of the even, im tired of it, it sucks ahhhhhhhhh
leaf =/= seed
seed means youre a new player or a player that doesnt have a character at 1620 in the roster, gives a lot of atk/def buffs and other stuff
good for people barely learning, nothing much
leaf means new or returnee within a set of rules, makes you get leaf tokens if you raid with people, people without a leaf that raid with you get veteran tokens
use them in the event shop
what condition needs to be met in order to lose the leaf?
1670+ or event ends
does transcendence also carry over when doing gear transfer?
also, what exactly does advanced honing even do? i did 1 lv now to get the rewards from the adv honing event, but what is the actual purpose of adv honing?
prob rmt?
yes it transfers
''easier'' honing than normal ones
since you cant pity it
but like, it hit lv 1 adv honing, yet its still +14
the pity is never getting great succ 
but what do the adv honing lvls do
+18 is 1680 base
+20 adv honing = +20ilvl = 1700
same as normal honing
literally 1ilv
its not
Bad? It's better than nothing
its way better than normal honing at some point
It's an addon
you say its bad, yet it costs less at higher normal hone thresholds
So it'll stay there
i mean if youre doing adv honing at 1640 ofc its bad
do 5 lvls of adv honing still cost less than 1 normal hone though?
and shouldnt be done
just for event quest
not at 1640
thats why i said thresholds
is there a way to get more of the agris scales? or just once per week raid?
kinda want to just finish the armor part of the adv honing event now, so i can ignore the feature for a long time
solo shop, buy eyes
You can use them instead of scales in the AH menu
There's a "use replacement" button or smth iirc
1 eye will be worth 2 scales
oh ok, thx
hello guys, one of the enlightenment potions in the codex shows that the source is from sevek atun. is this an rng drop from killing it? also, if i die during a field boss, does that affect my rewards at all?
Dieing is fine and yes it's (sadly) an rng drop
so does dying not really affect rewards in this game?
in a hyptothetical situation if i hit the boss once and die and dont revive ...
id get the same rewards as someone whos been soloing it lets say?
Okay well if you do that you're prob not meeting min contribution requirements
But min contrib=same rewards
wow i see i see
as a noob, is knowing the mechanics of a boss not enough to comfortably find parties at 1640?
or is that pretty much the only thing gatekeeping..(i think thats what this is right) newbies?
if you are lucky, you can sometimes just join some juicer party even without knowing mechanics and just win for free, not that i would ever do that though of course
they prob won't complain too mcuh either since you have mokoko leaf
at least for raids
Not nearly enough
Because why would I take a 1640 when I can wait 4 seconds for a bunch of 1660s :V
But if you have koko leaf you can prob get in pretty easy regardless if people still want tokens
something worth noting is most people cleared the event shop already so they dont need mokoko leaf like before in their raids
i see i see that makes sense
i feel like
if there was like a lfg-newbie version
the newbies could form parties and struggle it tgt
i mean
unless that already exists
That's called make a lobby and call it prog
newbies can do it
You'll get plenty of people wanting to join tbh
Guys how do I unlock the achievements for clearing NM and HM Kayangel and Akkan when there're apparently no groups for them...
you look for people in other discords or you just dont get the achievs at all
not like you need them
?lfg
We have lfgroup and lfstatic channels in each of our region categories (requires region role).
You can filter the postings by clicking on content relevant tags or even 'Learning Group'.
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Also check out some LFG/Learning dedicated Discords:
Lost Ark LFG (International): https://discord.gg/thelostarklfg
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Lost Ark Mokoko's (NA West): https://discord.gg/lost-mokokos
Mokoko Mentors & Co. (German) https://discord.gg/mokokomentors
as a 1640, can I basically not unlock my last row of enlightement?
Not until we get rimeria for the 2nd blood claw map thingy
Then you get +3 points which let's you unlock it
assuming all pots obtained and combat 70
how do i change channel on the map? my party members earlier disappeared (but were still in party) on sevek athun and told me to go to channel 3, but i don't know how to do that
also, can i kill sevek multiple times a day to get soul of magma or is that also limited to the ocne per day clear reward?
they are there from the get go
hm but they were with me until they suddenly disappeared
Top right, above minimap
ahh, i can only select 1 though, no options
Then there are no other channels atm
so it like depends on player number in area?
They form and go away depending on player count
ok, thank you
lol
Am I losing 20k this week or not 
Less laughing more GRINDING THAEMINE TO DUST
can I do anything with character bound t3 honing books as a t4 now, like exchange/convert?
Sadly no, just toss em
is this worth it? i dont need it rn, but maybe in the future when it pops up on another char?
books are 2.5k per on Na-e
yeah
then it wouldnt be worth, but its not like i use the crystals for much else, right?
can get other mats with them, or skins you may want, a variety of things
Best thing to spend your excess BC on is usually life energy
That does assume you're willing to burn all the LE though
thanks for reminding me to check the shop :p
You mean having 250 potions sitting doesn't help? D:
give me the 250 potions, i'll give you 50% of the gold made from logging for all the hours 🤝
for the excavating mini game can you still exit out and do it all over again?
Have anyone done the math for mari shop weapon 11-20 adv honing? It looks worthit but idk
ESC to force quit then wait a bit (or go to another node). Or at least that's how it worked before the rework, idk failing it is rare
yea just realized
you dont even lose the attempt when you fail
20k is on hold my charger port melted so I had to take it in to get it fixed
Well 20k was limited time offer 

Goes down to 15k until u kill
so in this game u can dodge thru stagger/displacements, but still eat the damage from the attack you've dodged thru
is that right?
that sounds kinda like pvp, i'm more of a pve player myself 👀
correct
this is also how armor on skills work
what are the fieldboss spawn days?
press alt h
at 1640, should i continue to focus on honing?
whats your alternative
you mean like in general?
yeahh
not on game rn, not anytime soon sadly
pretty much normal hone until 1660
with all the advanced honing scrolls it's viable to do advanced honing 1-10
once you are 1660
okok and theres no downsides of honing right away from 1640 right?
not thursdays
(nerfs are coming, but who know sif it'll be next month or in 6)
yeah no downsides
basically do whatever the calculator tells you to do
Calculate the estimated Upgrade Material and Currency Costs for Gear Honing to reach your desired Item Level with our Upgrade Calculator Tool for Lost Ark.
you input the prices of the mats, go for average scenario with optimised materials (should be the deafult option)
my primary focus of gold spending should be on honing right?
and it'll tell you if you should use extra materials while honing or not
kinda
is that your main?
yes
getting to 1660 with regular honing
since aegir gear building takes quite a bit of time
things like gems and cards come over time
for 1660 what should each of my gear be beside their name?
(+20) etc
currently at 1640 it is +19 each
i got u
1660 is +14
ye
ooo okok thank you
at 1660, should my goal be to slowly grind week after week in aegir nm to craft ancient t4 and transfer or should i hone relic to +18?
you can keep honing since the gear can be transferred
and you keep your progress
unlike before transferring doesnt grant you bonus ilvls
yeah, but idk which way is better
it just increases the cap
realistically you shouldn't outpace the honing process with farming aegir gear
so honing is better for now?
ok
if you hone the relic piece, eventually you'll transfer it to ancient
should i craft pieces as soon as i can or is there some reason to stay on full relic until i get full ancient? like maybe some set bonus that i dont see?
ok thx
im not sure how many more ark passive points you get since they reworked it
oh why last? i mean it takes the most pieces, but isnt weapon usually the ost important?
but you used to get more ark passive points from the gear
oh ok
so least prio
thx
you go 1660 and then wait for the ah nerf
i am 1660 xd
should i not still normal hone?
or at least wait till roadmap
i dont think theres gonna be a nerf to normal honing
anytime soon
so normal honing is "safe" I'd say
ok
its really expensive now anyway, so not sure i will get far atm with normal hone xd
how long can we estimate for the nerf?
we dont know
is it in kr alrdy?
thats why i said wait at leats for roadmap
roadmap is in beginnign of april
yes kr has them
and we have qol and nerfs fast
ok
well, just
i guess
i wouldve loved to get to brel soon, but will be slow from here on either way
oh
arna said wait before
my books went from 70k to 110k

if you cant wait, you can normal hone
arna knows all 👑 💖 ✨
hes a mokoko
if you wanna be efficient, you can try to wait a little bit longer
<why would he go 1670
anyone can help create a steam account for me? im im MENA and can't play
cuz bro cant wait apparently
well if i lose leaf at 1670 id rather farm for more gold, elixirs etc from event
before going there
im waiting to do ah on those
this 1670 was almost pitying everything
if i knew we would get ah nerf
i wouldve never normal honed
oh also
(me still struggling to get 1680
)
do you get mokoko tokens from any raid? like could i still do older raids technically to get them?
am i blind
starting ivory tower
oh, so thaemine too i think then? but like not akkan etc.?
sad, but i guess, at least 5 sources per week for me now
bros I'm sick of the mokoko discrimination. Jailed in g2 echidna and people get charmed, cause us to wipe like 5x but as soon as I screw up ft
"yikes new mokokos" followed by vote quit
take my leaf away I don't want it
any help guys?
people are dumb
more mature people wouldnt blame the leafs
use a vpn
if i see the leaf my expectations are rock bottom
@vast oriole tried and doesnt work
i do, if they fuck up
but its not the case here
others fucked up multiple times before him
I did screw up but it was like the last pull
i got a gmail and everything, just need a sign up and add game from anyone's side lol
you know how to do ft and you just fucked up or you dont know?
btw should i even buy more transcendence ruin tickets? all my armor is at 20+ and my weapon is at 17, just waiting for reset to get scales for 20 on that.
yea I just moved early
there are like multiple sources for the tickets, but i feel like i dont need it, still have 20
nobody will create an account for you here
only if you think you will do alts later on
oh, well at least 1 alt for sure
idk if i would buy them
Granted my dps is not too sweet because transc is time gated
tbh
i dont expect leaf to dps personally
i just expect them to say if they dont know the raid
but thats about it
Ya idk. There's been a shift lol
2 weeks ago mokoko was VIP ticket to free carry
now it's hard to get in lobbies
and jailed all the time
still a lot of weekly stuff too tho
i still have 900 tokens
I guess I should just do solo mode until transc is completed or something
Ya 2 diff grades on your gear
okok thank you
you do advanced honing when normal honing is too expensive
i see i see
right i am very well aware of that now
arna the mokoko queen
i did mostly behe with mokoko
xD
this shop was way easier to complete than the first one
understandable
how much do you get per run?
uh
are the t4 honing books worth buying with gold? or should i always hold off on honing until i have them from events?

last time i did it felt like 20k or so, i don't run behemoth much anymore because it felt too chaotic 
20k tokens?
Behemoth: 70
Thaemine HM 1-3: 60
Echidna HM: 70
aegir nm : 80
oops thought you meant gold, my bad
thx
i was told if leaf runs with other leaf, they get expert token too, but do they still also get normal token then or just expert?
https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/1izm4ce/mokoko_bootcamp_event_shop_buyout_information/ theres this sheet aswell
no they dont
all da sheets 
leaf only get mokoko ones
hm, maybe i do have to go 1670 then in time to clear expert shop too
Yea the shop for actual mokokos is trash LOL
its as u want
if you think you will get taken in group, sure
but i still dont recommend honing
yeah its expensive for sure
need more leaps and abidos please 
leaps arent that bad now since the price went down a lot
but abidos hurts
red mats too
thats why i might want to get to 1670 before it ends, i need that title
i need to actually take a look at when it would be best to go 1670 to get the most out of it
in the end the stuff from mokoko shop is still useful, but i get the same stuff from expert shop
The stuff is fine, the limits are pretty atrocious
yeah
The only one that makes sense is the hellfire books maybe
The shard bag limits make no sense
even on books, they could just increase it a little, i also dont like that the raids give you books for alts, rather than for your current char
Honestly with these limits the mokoko shop should be per char per week. At least that would make more sense
except the gold bars maybe
but as mokoko you usually wouldnt have multiple chars in the ilvl to clear those raids
unless you buy passes
Well new mokoko maybe not, lots of returner mokokos though (like me)
thanks anyway