#lost-ark-help

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thin dock
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i want to create new charachter i havent played for over a year

gusty kettle
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buy it or get trusted then use the free one

thin dock
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where can i buy

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or what is get trusted

gusty kettle
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when you are in character select

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?trusted

buoyant dockBOT
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Amazon changed how trusted status is obtained, the old way is "You need steam trusted / non limited and enabling 2fa on steam guard app", it's now an in-house system not reliant on steam. All the info they have given us on how to get it is "Play the game and you get it eventually".
Amazon Games Trusted Info

thin dock
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what

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how i get trusted on steam

gusty kettle
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steam isnt the same as lost ark trusted

thin dock
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ye but i can get this

gusty kettle
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i believe you either spend $5 or hook up your phone to steam using 2FA

thin dock
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yea i did that

gusty kettle
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you can probably figure it out

thin dock
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i did all that

gusty kettle
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i told u that's not the same as trusted in lost ark

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read the info above

vast oriole
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and for that, follow what the bot said

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and insult ags at the same time

obtuse nexus
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OMG?

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I JUST GOT A MOKOKO ICON?

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HOW?

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gunna cry 😭

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or am i crazy

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i dont have an icon next to my name but when i join a party i have an icon in the lobby?

gusty kettle
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try relogging

obtuse nexus
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did they just roll out something?

slate geyser
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it just means u have mokoko icon

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enjoy

obtuse nexus
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no Icon, but icon in lobby?!?

slate geyser
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thats not how it works

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icon only shows when ur in a lobby in thaemine/echidna/behemoth/ivory

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it will not show next to your name otherwise.

obtuse nexus
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oh so

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how can i check my mokoko icon status?

slate geyser
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u have it

obtuse nexus
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like how do i know how long i have it or when it goes away

slate geyser
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no worries

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presumably when event ends

obtuse nexus
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so 2 weeks

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damn

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well wish i knew this sooner lmfao

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oh well

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i was playing around when the mokoko bootcamp event launched

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a few months ago

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and i didnt have it

slate geyser
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yeah it never showed next to your name unless u were inside one of those lobbies

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for the raids mentioned above

obtuse nexus
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no like

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i was doing raids like behemoth

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on my 1640

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and i didnt have the icon

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but i quit

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and then just redownloaded yesterday

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idk idc hopefully it will help me clear

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can i join a hard thae group 1-3 if ive cleared normal a bunch and watched guides

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and have mokoko icon

thorny heath
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also really weird- I've helped a couple newcomers that have the newbie mokoko leaf, but they don't have that within e.g. behemoth lobbies

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and they also don't get mokoko tokens

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is that intentional?

obtuse nexus
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no idea

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weird

cinder pilot
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Hey just came back to the game, i did the whole tour thing and all that. Im sort of stuck at 1600, so we just solo dungeons/raids for gold. Or are there other options for catchup.

gusty kettle
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expresses, power passes, and events are the best way to catch up

cinder pilot
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Its mostly gold that is halting prog with the catchup thing going on

gusty kettle
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?gold

buoyant dockBOT
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Gold Sources

Tradable Gold

Tradable Gold is gold that can be used to purchase items from the Market/Auction House as well as be traded to other players.

  • Legion Commander Raids
  • Kazeros Raids
  • Abyssal Dungeons
  • Adventure Island Gold Reward
  • Fate Embers (gold is withheld)
  • Life Skills
  • Selling tradeable items on Marketplace/Auction House.
  • Content Bids
  • Completing Super Mokoko Express Events (gold is withheld)
  • Royal Crystal Exchange (gold is withheld)
Bound Gold

Bound Gold is used exclusively for progression systems.

  • Gold Reward Chests from Una's Tokens
  • Solo Mode Raids
gusty kettle
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my recommendation is to sell ability stones, run raids, do unas and optionally do gold island

cinder pilot
gusty kettle
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running old raids in a group is risky because of jails

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when you get 1640 it's less risky

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i think most ppl solo up until T4, and some are too scared to even join groups in T4

rose wren
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?lfg these exist

buoyant dockBOT
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We have lfgroup and lfstatic channels in each of our region categories (requires region role).
You can filter the postings by clicking on content relevant tags or even 'Learning Group'.
#1051258008853807174/#1051276943619792948/#1051285338569580564

Also check out some LFG/Learning dedicated Discords:
Lost Ark LFG (International): https://discord.gg/thelostarklfg
Mokoko elp (EU Central): https://discord.gg/mokokoelp
Loot Heroes (NA East): https://discord.gg/lootheroes
Lost Ark Mokoko's (NA West): https://discord.gg/lost-mokokos
Mokoko Mentors & Co. (German) https://discord.gg/mokokomentors

cinder pilot
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Cool, thank you!

gusty kettle
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you can't sell most ability stones, but there are at least 3 that are very valuable and some that may be valuable when new class comes out

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Support Stones: Awaken + Magick Stream, Awaken + Drops of Ether
DPS Ability Stones: Grudge + Adrenaline

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you can probably sell other ones, but only for like 100-500g at most. Drops of Ether + Magick Stream, Awaken + Expert, Grudge/Adrenaline + Cursed Doll

merry elbow
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where can one check the rewards from the new Illios Island ?

gusty kettle
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hover over the island top left but otherwise i can list them

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theres 2 new emotes this year, 3 old ones from last year, 1 card pack, and some card XP, and maybe some music for SH

merry elbow
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that's what we get from doing the event + the merchant ?

gusty kettle
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merchant sells stuff from last year, event gives the rest

merry elbow
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thanks alot!

obtuse nexus
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what are the minimum requirements I should have to apply to thae hard g1-g3 lobbies?

gusty kettle
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most ppl gonna expect full trans elixir at minimum

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maybe not weapon

obtuse nexus
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full trans for hard thae?

vast oriole
river pumice
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how much of an dps increase is going from lvl 65 to 70?
i feel like i'm outdpsing most players despite not having los30

west valley
obtuse nexus
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even with koko icon D:

vast oriole
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i dont trust mokokos in thae

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personally

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same with echidna

west valley
gusty kettle
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mokokos can join 1660+ lobbies fine

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cuz those groups expect you to fail

vast oriole
# west valley would u happen to know the HM mechs etc? i mean you might get away with it with ...

g1: raspberries to not destroy for the second stagger, eye part at the end but most group skip it
g2: he destroys platform at x153 and he fly on the last platform, just need to go under him
g3: clashes doesnt have same letters, theres dark seed on albion + the safezone mechs, theres pacman (front in normal pattern, front/out out for enhanced), typing test is reverse and upside down, ghosts spawning at the end grapping you but can skip

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better to just rewatch a guide

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it will say what are the hm mechs

obtuse nexus
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already did

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been trying for like 30 mins i think ill just give up lol

vast oriole
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was saying to DBB

obtuse nexus
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oh

vast oriole
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oh he meant if you know them

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he wasnt asking them

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nvm

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xD

gusty kettle
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day 1 after reset is a bit diff than other days

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a lot more hardcore players gatekeeping hard day 1

wet dagger
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@gusty kettle

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so i tempered all my advance honing and i got my weapon +10 and my armor +10 im like level 1623ish

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I have this left and 50k gold and like 1.1M honor shards

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Now is when i stop and go to 1640?

vast oriole
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just transfer

wet dagger
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i only got 1 piece of armor to +10

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yeah once i transfer i cant use t3 mats on advance honing

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but i should just transfer now correct? and just convert whats left to t4 mats

rose jewel
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so?

vast oriole
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yes transfer to t4

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like i said

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you barely have mats

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and you dont even have lots of shards

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just transfer

cursive oxide
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What elixir does igniter sorc need? Crit or Master?

lavish groveBOT
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The Ultimate Sorceress Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Sorceress class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

livid fossil
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read

cursive oxide
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I checked

cursive oxide
west valley
vast oriole
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yeah i figured after replying xDD

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sometimes im a bit slow

cursive oxide
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@livid fossil

cursive oxide
west valley
rose jewel
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:D

vast oriole
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but im really not playing sorc so it would be better to ask people in the sorc channel

vast oriole
vast oriole
timber mauve
rose jewel
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?

west valley
gusty kettle
waxen anvil
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anyone able to help me with ivory tower first look first clear?

gusty kettle
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you're not saving which server or what kind of help

waxen anvil
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I just figured id look here for a group, is that normal or am I off base

gusty kettle
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?lfg

buoyant dockBOT
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We have lfgroup and lfstatic channels in each of our region categories (requires region role).
You can filter the postings by clicking on content relevant tags or even 'Learning Group'.
#1051258008853807174/#1051276943619792948/#1051285338569580564

Also check out some LFG/Learning dedicated Discords:
Lost Ark LFG (International): https://discord.gg/thelostarklfg
Mokoko elp (EU Central): https://discord.gg/mokokoelp
Loot Heroes (NA East): https://discord.gg/lootheroes
Lost Ark Mokoko's (NA West): https://discord.gg/lost-mokokos
Mokoko Mentors & Co. (German) https://discord.gg/mokokomentors

gusty kettle
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would recommend solo first time

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for all raids at this point

lime vessel
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How do I get trade tools? Had a friend power pass a character and it has no tools and cant remember where to get them

olive void
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Hello! Is there a site or app like lostmerchants to track cards and stuff? thx

gusty kettle
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guide quest gives u them free in luterra

wet dagger
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once i hit 1640 will my engraving support, t3 event gems still work or does it go away?

olive void
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it works

vast oriole
olive void
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many players still use t3 gems in t4

vast oriole
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just so you know

wet dagger
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thats fine if i get gatekept ill just soloraid until my stuff is better

thorny heath
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yeah currently you got all the tools that you need

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thank god the higher end content is available to you too

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with echidna and thaemine you're mostly ready

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once you feel confident you can still join groups for more gold + group experience

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would recommened watching guides aswell in addition to that

wet dagger
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do i activate ark passive when im 1640 or not yet on that one

olive void
gusty kettle
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some discords tell you if wei and stuff is on merchant

olive void
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where can I find those?

thorny heath
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ark passive is usually 1660 and above, but sometime soon they will remove the old system so you are forced to use the ark passive- but we don't know yet when exactly that will be

vast oriole
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they dont really use those discords anymore

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since osmeone needs to put that alert at that time

olive void
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saddies. thanks anyway

cyan kiln
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EU merchant discord was sold to a rmter like a year ago. So yeah

livid fossil
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I use to ping for Wei and them when I needed them

obsidian tapir
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anyhelp for abyss card run?

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need 2 more

thorny heath
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yeah no more card runs

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ever

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please

cyan kiln
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“Game sucks now” to oreha “oh wait game is ok”

rose jewel
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i would just wait for the wild soul release with the express that gives 24 set

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instead of hating my life over doing card run

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by then you should have most if not all necessary selectors for 30set

gusty kettle
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even running card runs takes too long

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took me like 4 months on 15 characters to get los30 before akkan

wet dagger
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heres what im running right now

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whats the tier 3 lvl 8 event gems equialvent to in t4? lvl 6?

rose jewel
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any t3 -2

cyan kiln
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Except lvl 10 dmg

wet dagger
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so ive got a bunch of lvl 7 gems (non-event) those will conver to t4 lvl 5?

cyan kiln
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Yup

wet dagger
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but i shouldnt do that since thta would be weaker then the lvl 8s im running right now

vast oriole
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People prefer to see t4 lvl 5 over t3 lvl 8

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Even if its less dmg

cyan kiln
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Goes into dmg calc realm since t4 gems give atk power

gusty kettle
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is it less damage tho?

vast oriole
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Not sure

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Depends the skill

gusty kettle
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for me its more a question of laziness and not understanding the game if u still using T3

cyan kiln
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Depends on percentage of whole on skill.

vast oriole
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Kimda like lvl 10t3 vs lvl8t4

wet dagger
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also what do you do with the old lvl 7 event gems? it says they are unsellable, cannot dismantle but they aer clogging up storage space

cyan kiln
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As a glaive I’m keeping my lvl10 rdh t3 gem

west valley
vast oriole
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I kept them in inventory

gusty kettle
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i keep a few, storage space is a lot

wet dagger
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is this new skill in the t4 breaker guide

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through ark passive? or how do i get that unlocked

vast oriole
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Its T skill

gusty kettle
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probably under 1680 ark passive enlightment points

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o T skill

rose jewel
wet dagger
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do i go to trixion for that?

gusty kettle
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yeah it says HA Tech

rose jewel
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every single time i come and read you you got it wrong

vast oriole
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H.A. technique = hyper awakening technique

rose jewel
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thats a new record

wet dagger
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im a noob sorry :L

rose jewel
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not you

wet dagger
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i dont know anything right

rose jewel
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wind

wet dagger
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oh lmao

gusty kettle
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no hes making fun of me

rose jewel
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combat 60, ilv 1640, north kurzan done

vast oriole
gusty kettle
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im too lazy to look it up im busy so i just give first thing that came into head

rose jewel
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keep it in your head, thx

wet dagger
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oh i see its the mysterious light quest

vast oriole
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Idk about the name ngl

wet dagger
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i also have "azurian pirate creet" bottom left purple that i dont think i had before either

vast oriole
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I thought the name was hyper awakening something

wet dagger
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oh yup it says hype awakening on the mysterious light quest

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kk ty ill start that

gusty kettle
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this is why i made the assumption cuz some1 asked about this yesterday

gusty kettle
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plus i play asura so i dont know all the burger king skills

thorny heath
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you throw them out of your inventory

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if you dont want them to take space

serene vine
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how many times can you do the new years event

gusty kettle
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once for rewards, unlimited for no rewards

serene vine
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ok

summer bear
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this isent a qestion for lost ark but im taking my driving permet test tomorow

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any tips?

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im in VA

gusty kettle
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on driving test? lol

summer bear
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na

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the permet

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the writen one

gusty kettle
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well as far as i know theres 2 parts, driving and written

rose jewel
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you can probably talk about this in general chat

summer bear
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its called "help" for a reason

rose jewel
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yeah, for lost ark

gusty kettle
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signum needs that green power now

rose jewel
summer bear
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bro

rose jewel
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im not a mod but i know the rules

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besides a mod just linked you the rules

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well, helper

summer bear
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im stresin out here and UR TELLING ME TO NOT ASK QUESTION IN THIS CHAT

rose jewel
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yes im a party pooper but its the rules

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so

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follow the rules

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go to general chat for off topic stuff

summer bear
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i give up

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gn

vast oriole
spring spruce
mellow mauve
rose jewel
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do note, i wasnt toxic at all

gusty kettle
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watch him fail his driving permit cuz of u now

rose jewel
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i would be glad, if he gets that nervous for the test imagine while driving a real car

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thats a nono

gusty kettle
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daddy signum could have helped

rose jewel
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he aint my son so no

spring spruce
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I mean you just enforced the rule in a help channel for lost ark, where irl-help channel KEKW

rose jewel
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time to ask fire to make one

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so the dude is happy

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and then blame me again for sending him there

livid fossil
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lol

exotic egret
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Perhaps dumb question but, solo mode drops cards anyways on the abyssal dungeons right

exotic egret
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Oh based thanks

gusty kettle
wet dagger
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for raid lobbies that say "EOT" or "CM" what does that mean

rose jewel
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context?

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covetus master is one

vast oriole
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eot = eye of tempest = behemoth x10 title
cm = covetous master = echidna x10 title

rose jewel
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ah yeah, behe title

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brain busy with aegir

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i died trying to answer

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yey

gusty kettle
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karma

spring spruce
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ayo Signum getting bussed now? KEKDog

rose jewel
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what do you mean

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i always get bussed

vast oriole
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g1 or 2

rose jewel
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2

vast oriole
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nm or hm

rose jewel
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imagine dying on g1

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hm

vast oriole
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kinda easy to die in g1

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my bf likes to get oneshot there

spring spruce
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you can say he likes to get pounded by akkan and valtan combo Susge

rose jewel
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yummy

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cow

wet dagger
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how long do i get to keep my mokoko leaf for?

rose jewel
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1660 or event end

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i think feb?

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i forgot and lazy to check patch

wet dagger
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oh good i dont plan on hitting 1660 for long time

candid lake
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13days left for moko leaf

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unless if they extend the event

rose jewel
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oh crap

spring spruce
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so we will get comedy in 13 days KEKW

rose jewel
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ho boi

spring spruce
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Signum better get a drink ready when it happens

rose jewel
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i dont drink alcohol bro

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its gonna be an experience for sure

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but i really really thought it was till feb

spring spruce
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who said alcohol, some coffee to keep you up KEKDog

vast oriole
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I knew it was till 15th

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Cant wait

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Cant wait to link the date from screenshot 30 times same day

spring spruce
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Cant wait to see which ones of the mokokos I took in and started just doing busses instead of learning will come back

rose jewel
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finally found the goddam patch notes

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indeed its 15th jan

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all those rat alt accounts gonna cry in the corner

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i feel bad for real mokokers but

balmy plank
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I wont be able to farm my static member SADDIES

narrow quartz
# rose jewel imagine dying on g1

deadge I actually made more death in G1 than G2, the one guard with the hand. hit box so hard to see
it would be better if support can spare some love with DR there

shy chasm
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I think tgat is actual skill issue

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The just guards in aegir are very lenient unless your pressing g way early

narrow quartz
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ya true, my skill issue comebine with high ping is nightmare
its take more time to get used to with it, by press guard earlier

rose jewel
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the flame wave is actually kinda weird

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so i can see people getting hit there

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i always DR no matter what

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that part is quite deadly

last wolf
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ive been reading up on guides for both classes and raids in general, and have been seeing the term "bible" and people recommending to "use" (?) it. what exactly is it and how do we get it?

balmy plank
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Its technically againt tos

faint root
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does entry count mean clear in abyssal dungeon? if i fail in solo mode, do i not get to try again until next week

balmy plank
delicate kernel
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Trans order Armor>Pants>Shoulder>Gloves>Helm>Weapon?

last wolf
rose jewel
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yes, all are against tos, overwolf was a weird case but in the end i remember them saying it was not allowed

balmy plank
rose jewel
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i mean, i personally know people that have been banned for the bible

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so

balmy plank
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Thats why I wont ever

rose jewel
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take that as you want

balmy plank
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I personally dont know anyone. But Ive invested too much time & money into my account. Im too proud of allthe things ive accomplished to risk it

minor briar
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which is why some ppl recommend it

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espc on support, u can compare and improve

rose jewel
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i do agree on sups not even knowing wtf they are doing or how good they are buffing or shielding or etc, they have to improve on that (SG), but between that and telling people to use the bible, nah

split urchin
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In Lost Ark, can you contine to earn Amethyst Shards every new month? Thanks.

narrow quartz
split urchin
narrow quartz
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yes its roster, not character bound

last wolf
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why do i not have mokoko icon next to name in profile anymore but if i join a raid, it appears next to my name?

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and if thats the case, for mokoko looking parties, would they be able to see i am a mokoko?

balmy plank
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Mokoko buff is for people not yet at 1580. The leaf for the event only shows up if you have not honed to 1660 & it only shows up in party finder

spring spruce
spring spruce
last wolf
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should we buy all behemoth gate chests? if its our first time clearing it*

split urchin
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I thought it would be somewhat more fun to play a medieval like character like the archer, because much of the game is like 1600s style. If so, when will the future like robots place happen? Thanks.

paper walrus
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the game isnt 1600s style

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there are tech advanced race in arthentine, all the gunners have hi tech gear

manic quarry
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Weapon is the last gear you should be worrying about putting transcendence into anyways

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You should be working on your armor if you haven't completed them yet

last wolf
shy chasm
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If you have then take box

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Cuz you'll need it

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They just said they are done with armor trans

patent marsh
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I saw on reddit an event island? Anyone tell me where it is

spring spruce
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and legit players get hit with false bot behavior bans

normal moth
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For the new 1680 chaos that drops with brel, is the accessory drop a mixture of relic and ancient? Or all ancient drops. Can't seem to find any vids on people farming it. I'm also guessing bracelet drops from 1680 chaos as well?

paper walrus
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bracelet is from doing brel

dull leaf
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1680 chaos drops bracelets

novel charm
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Question: what is the point of the tier 4 amulets that t4 chaos dungeon/abidos drops?

novel charm
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Don't we have those already in t3? Is the % better?

narrow quartz
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T3 chaos still drop amulet, but not all tripod lvl 5, random 3-5

novel charm
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Ah got it, ty

flat tulip
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I saw benji do 1680 chaos and still dropping relic

wary lintel
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did kr get the ap changes already ?

dull leaf
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yes, if u r referring to using ap in below 1660

gloomy ice
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can i do the new island more than once

dull leaf
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yes, but u get nothing after the 1st time iirc

normal moth
paper walrus
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you equipped them

misty plume
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Hello everyone, can it be that some NPC's merchants that were there before disappear after a certain story level?For example Luigia in North Vern - Raniarode

wary lintel
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luiga?

misty plume
wet moss
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Then the npc could be temporarily not there because of the quest

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Otherwise that npc doesn’t go away since you need it for the adventure tome

misty plume
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I have a few rappert quests but from other continents

narrow quartz
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u can try other character then. without rapport quest

misty plume
wary lintel
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oh luigia

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are you sure ur at the correct spot?

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can u send a ss in game?

misty plume
paper walrus
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use alt d to check sources of food, maxroll isnt updated

misty plume
river pumice
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what are the BiS effects for an expert logging tool? or should I get a relic one?

gusty kettle
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legendary tool is far cheaper

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get a relic if u have a lot of money i guess, donno if its worth

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i would say rare % + all % are top 2, then its a debate between kick %, kick reward %, durability %, bag %

paper walrus
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in order

gusty kettle
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still have no clue why ppl rate durability % low

river pumice
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i see thanks==

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what are normal drops btw?

gusty kettle
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repairs on tools arent cheap if they're relic, altho legendary is slightly cheaper

#

normal and uncommon? those are white and green materials which are worth a bit less than rare

river pumice
#

so in that case, i'd take the one on the right?

paper walrus
#

right

split urchin
#

I have Menelik's Tome x8 cards that cause card XP gain. Is that wasted when I use it or does it level my character up? Thanks.

paper walrus
#

it gives card xp

#

thats not related to your character at all, its used in the card book

split urchin
paper walrus
#

it just sits as xp until you use it to level a card

#

explore the alt c menu

latent violet
weary oyster
#

so i have gs1600 character, can i go to north kurzan and do logging there so i can get abidos timber?

paper walrus
#

yes

north nimbus
split urchin
#

Is it the objective to get all the cards? I thought I don't want to get the same card; I'd like it to let me know which one I have already. Thanks.

paper walrus
#

you need dupes of cards to make them useful

#

and not every card is useful

fallen jasper
#

what does 1640 have to do with it?

north nimbus
#

I tried it on my 1600

fallen jasper
north nimbus
#

"Your item level is too low to forage. Required item level: 1640"

split urchin
#

My character has a goatee, and for the roleplaying effect, I think I'd rather have a clean shaven look. Can I earn appearance changes in the game? Thanks.

hollow belfry
#

Can't

thorny heath
#

yo i replaced my old character with a new one from the ignite server- i would like to take over the name from my previous char. What would be the fastest / best way to do it? Rename old char, then rename new char? Delete old char, then rename after the deletion is complete? Does anyone know / have experience?

vast oriole
#

Rename old char and rename new char

#

If you delete old char, the name is taken for 60 days

#

If its more than level 10

thorny heath
#

ah got ya

#

cheers

weary oyster
#

hey i wanna ask, the 116k gold included 50k gold from chaos or no? i got 50k gold chest

thorny heath
#

yes your 116k includes the 50k from the chaos dungeon

split urchin
#

In the store, if so, where is an appearance change ticket at? Thanks.

maiden locust
#

Hello, I don't know if anyone has already had this problem but I don't get any "echo of aura" for chaos dungeon
I did one on December 30 when I unlocked the dungeon but since then I haven't found one, I don't know what to do

north nimbus
split urchin
#

I thought with all those like medieval games out there, I thought it would be more interesting to play a gunner of some sort. Is there any comment? Thanks.

thorny heath
#

all classes play wildly different, depends what you like

#

i personally play peacemaker gunslinger, fast paced, difficult to master, tons of fun

#

but you have to put in 10x the effort (and resources) e.g. a sorceress has to put in, for the same amount of damage

#

artillerst is the opposite- you sit and you shoot from your mobile wheelchair

#

I'd just create a dummychar and don't finish the tutorial in trixion

#

you can try all subclasses there for yourself

#

(just to get a little feeling for it, just to see what abilities they have and how they move and stuff)

#

(you can also check gameplay videos of each classes out, pick whatever looks cool to you)

paper walrus
paper walrus
#

?reset

buoyant dockBOT
#

NA reset local time: <t:1730714400:t>
EU reset local time: <t:1644404400:t>
Weekly reset is on Wednesday server time.

paper walrus
#

wait

#

is it 1 a day now

maiden locust
paper walrus
#

it is

#

are you sure you're looking at aura and not rest bonus

maiden locust
#

Yes

paper walrus
#

what ilevel are you

maiden locust
#

725

north nimbus
#

Make sure you're not dispatching it in stronghold

maiden locust
#

I only did a chaos dungeon once to unlock my first equipment, it was on December 30, since then I'm constantly at 0 and I can't do it again even though my friends do it every day

north nimbus
#

Do you use the special mission dispatch in stronghold?

maiden locust
#

No

young karma
#

can you actually get the back atack surge on db on 1660 ark passive?

steady reef
#

which una's tasks did you guys do for dailies in ur lopang slaves?

paper walrus
#

i would just try doing absolutely nothing on that character for a full day jsut to make sure it actually doesnt regen, then ask support

#

?support

buoyant dockBOT
paper walrus
#

also you have a powerpass that you can use to get 1585 gear immediately

paper walrus
paper walrus
young karma
#

meh i was thinking about honing alt db

#

but fuck it

#

thank you so much for answering

steady reef
paper walrus
#

ye

steady reef
#

ok ty bro

split urchin
#

There's a chest, should I get Harmony Shards or Honor Shards? Thanks.

thorny heath
#

depends on your itemlevel

#

if you are in t2, you take harmony hards, if you're t3 honor shards

#

if you hover over your gear you should see

#

usually you keep them until tier 3 though

#

because that where you'll be for the longest time

#

and you breeze through tier 1 & tier 2 relatively quickly

split urchin
#

I thought I should dismantle items instead of selling them now. I've 3.7 mil silver. Is there any opinion? Thanks.

thorny heath
#

yeah

#

you dont really sell anything here

#

unless the vendor reacts to your items in your inventory

#

when you press the "sell junk" button

#

you dont sell

#

you just dismantle what you dont need

#

you'll have silver in abundance in this game

#

gold is the real currency that matters

split urchin
# thorny heath depends on your itemlevel

My character is lvl 45. Should I get x20 of 1000 Harmony Shards instead of the x5 1000 Honor Shards? If I can just get them really easily later, I can go for the Honor Shards. Thanks.

paper walrus
thorny heath
#

there are tons of resources from islands

#

where you can get those shards

#

wouldnt worry too much about it

#

i would use them up if you need to hone

#

and if that happens to be in t2, then so be it

split urchin
#

I didn't use the Powerpass. Can you switch if off of a character to another? Thanks. Artillerist is an excellent long ranged fighter with tech weaponry. I could try the archer later on. Thanks.

distant cipher
#

what's the difference between this chest equipment and the one u get from powerpass?

split urchin
trail hawk
#

ehm... "powerpass" does what it supposed to do, skips a lot of content to bring you into late game

#

you need gold later in game, lots of it, and the pp, gives that char items to provide gold

paper walrus
paper walrus
#

you should still open it to see if you get better quality rolls

distant cipher
#

which one for wardancer

trail hawk
#

!wardancer

#

mhm...

#

if you pick wrong one dont worry, you can change set anytime

#

aha, here is old t3 guide...

#

Hallucination is used for the general non-positional builds.

distant cipher
#

what do i do with the lower qual pieces since i cant dismantle them

trail hawk
#

throw them out of inventory to destroy them

cursive swan
#

If cannot be destroyed then sell it to a general merchant in any city

limber tundra
#

Currently mokoko but looking to go to 1660 for Aegir.
Curious wether I should prepare something more before honing up and losing flower.

Main: 1659, left it one hone away from 1660 to keep flower. 2x t4 lv8 gems rest t4 lv7

Alts: 2x 1641 (Weap 12) 3x T4 lv7 gems rest t4 lv6

All of these chars have 40 set elixir with pretty good lines and full trans.

I've made sure to use the mokoko flower to learn Thaemine, Behemoth and Echidna. Have manged to get Thaemine HM G1-G3 DL aswell as Echidna HM DL

Got some lower alts at 1610/1600/1600 but only doing solo mode on them for now.

Other stuff of note:
LOS30
Roster 208
2.95% demon damage from cards

Is there something I've missed to prep before losing mokoko flower or am I safe to hone to 1660 and start progressing Aegir now?

solemn condor
#

is it possible to show who countered in fake counter ?

manic quarry
#

Nope

#

This is obviously for thae 2 right?

solemn condor
split urchin
#

If an Artillerist and a Sharpshooter fight each other, who would win? Thanks.

trail hawk
#

the one with more skill

#

pvp in this game is hard until you learn it

livid fossil
#

lol iam not quite up right now i tohught that was joke lol

split urchin
#

Once you dismantle items, can you use those mats for crafting better items? Thanks. Unless it's just for inventory managment and some silver.

vast oriole
limber tundra
distant cipher
#

any good way to track wandering merchants?

vast oriole
#

Watching the map

trail hawk
#

they are up for 5.5h ....

distant cipher
#

it just straight up shows everything like that?

vast oriole
#

Yep

distant cipher
#

what were the tracking sites for like couple years ago then

#

or did it work in a different way

hollow belfry
#

Yessir

paper walrus
#

for when merchants didnt show on map

#

qol update

#

now merchants show on map

distant cipher
#

thats pretty good

west valley
inland osprey
#

Anyone where is the new year island?

balmy plank
#

Ilios island bbetween anikka & arthetine

obtuse flare
#

do all 3 supports give movement speed buffs? or just artist?

sharp imp
#

Hello! This will be a short question: Directly quitting the game while in a solo raid instance will result in an "unfixable" lost entry count, right?

vast oriole
#

nobody use that tripod on orchids (for artist)

steady reef
vast oriole
#

T skill with leap tree will give movement speed (artist) but thats all

void hare
#

can i go ark passive on support with 2 pieces?

vast oriole
#

3 pieces

void hare
#

rip 2 more weeks Sadge

vast oriole
#

i saw few supps with 2 pieces ark passive

#

but i dont trust them

sharp imp
tough jasper
#

Heyo, i wanted to enter tranquil isle to obtain Requiem of twilight but well the island is not there. Is it like some kind of event or ?

maiden locust
#

if u make a skill tripod lvl5 and then u delete character, does the tripod level get saved on ur roster (in case u recreate same class in future)

cyan kiln
#

No, tripods are character specific

maiden locust
#

ok gg

maiden locust
#

fk this char i hate it anyway

cyan kiln
#

Would be lots more joining us OTP folks if it was

maiden locust
#

what is oTP

timber mauve
#

One time password?

cyan kiln
#

One Trick Pony

maiden locust
#

ah

manic quarry
#

If it's today, wait for an hour from here. Or in the next two hours after that

tough jasper
#

Aight, i will try to find it, thank you !

manic quarry
#

Actually you could just open up Procyons Compass for all of those information. Otherwise find a small blue button on the upper left corner with an Alarm to it and open up its settings from there

torpid olive
#

is there a way for new player to get trusted status fast? doge

maiden locust
#

there's a calendar too next to time and date on top left

buoyant dockBOT
#

Amazon changed how trusted status is obtained, the old way is "You need steam trusted / non limited and enabling 2fa on steam guard app", it's now an in-house system not reliant on steam. All the info they have given us on how to get it is "Play the game and you get it eventually".
Amazon Games Trusted Info

manic quarry
#

Using your own money won't make it go faster

torpid olive
#

so I have to grind main story to get it? damn

manic quarry
#

You'll still potentially lose your status somehow

#

Whatever you did

mellow mauve
modern fable
#

how to do this

steady reef
mellow mauve
#

just an undetermined amount of time playing the game

torpid olive
mellow mauve
mellow mauve
torpid olive
#

i just want to use the powerpass MokokoCry

modern fable
mellow mauve
manic quarry
manic quarry
#

After you clear ivory gate 1

#

Sorry I can't read

modern fable
#

k

#

its raid right ?

manic quarry
#

Yes abyssal

#

Ivory tower of chaos

cyan kiln
#

There is a solo mode version and deathboi has good guide

modern fable
#

it will take one from my 3 raid per week right ?

manic quarry
#

If you don't want the gold, it won't

modern fable
#

its voldis ?

manic quarry
#

It's the tab after Kayangel under Abyssal Dungeons

cyan kiln
#

It's the abyssal dungeon trampled garden

#

Or this in solo mode

modern fable
#

yea yea

modern fable
#

hard mod

cyan kiln
#

lostark.nexus has a sheet with raid rewards

manic quarry
split urchin
#

For Roster level up, I saw a single use potion that permanently adds like 50 to dmg stat points. I thought it just adds it to a main character. I think it should go to all characters on the account so if the item is only attained from the Roster Level up spot. Is there any opinion about this? Thanks.

manic quarry
#

It applies to all characters in that roster

#

It's a bonus

split urchin
#

If you could earn these permanent stat potions in game that add 5 to stats, I'd like to get them; I think one time only thing would be okay. Otherwise, it would be like unlimited scaling; which I do like one way, yet it wouldn't be as competitive PvP with newer players. I think can't be found otherwise in the game.

manic quarry
#

You can get those from una task reputations, rapports, roster levels and some hidden/side quests

vast oriole
#

pvp is dead in this game

#

just so you know

hybrid willow
#

real pvp is gettingto lobby

split urchin
vast oriole
#

i mean

#

i answered

#

pvp is dead

#

nobody does it

hasty breach
#

Hey guys, quick question. Last friday i returned to the game and got my main to 1640 and a couple of alts to 1580 (Stuck farming Akkan gear to progress). I'm very dry gold wise and i've been thinking about dropping a bit of money on the game, but those 100 eur packs are just not it for me.

Is there anything kind on the low side (10-30€) that makes sense to help me push my roster a bit faster and start generating big boy gold sooner?

sick totem
#

i'm not a big payer personally, i just buy premium/beatrice, and some small stuff sometimes very rarely, but as for ur situation, i would just keep those alts, there idk how expensive it is to push 1600, probly not much, and just keep pushing main on 1660 asap, so u do Aegir and start unlocking Ark passive

vast oriole
#

ark pass are worth the money usually

#

theres none right now up, next one should be up maximum end of february

sick totem
#

@hasty breachpush alts only with event boosts or stuff like that

vast oriole
#

usually people buy skins and sell them to get gold

sick totem
#

cuz getting from 1600 to 1620 is hellllla expensive

#

but i think getting alts on 1600 shouldn't be expensive? much time i don't do that hone, 1580-1600, so i dont remember, but if u can push them on 1600 and farm there solo or whatever u wish

vast oriole
#

it cost gold to 1600, i wouldnt

#

even if its not that expensive

sick totem
#

@vast oriolethe last powerpass how much brings you, 1600?

vast oriole
#

skurzan is 1580, north is 1600 yes

sick totem
#

north how much sots

#

costs

vast oriole
#

i eman it depends

#

its 1100 per region

#

so if you had a voldis powerpass

#

north will cost 1100x2

steady reef
#

i don't know if are worth tbh, since thae solomode is 1610 for example

sick totem
#

so probly ur best investmen if u really wanna spend those 100$ is on those powerpasses @hasty breach

#

probly

steady reef
#

the diff from 1580 to 1600 is just ivory i think

vast oriole
#

yep

sick totem
#

cuz idk, he is in a weird situation

#

not too much to do, to be a lot better

#

unless 10000euro

steady reef
#

I'm in the same situation, I return to game in Ignite server so my main are 1650 right now and alts 1590

hasty breach
#

Hmmm, sounds like the plan is to just push main asap to unlock AP, keep hoarding resources on alts till we get a honing event to push them past 1580 and get the next Ark Pass when it arrives next month

steady reef
#

And I think I'll just push main to 60 and wait passes to push alts

sick totem
#

tbh, just keep alts there then, whatever lmao, do not fomo it too much, u will have ur time, ur moments, just be patient, a lot actually, in 1 year probly could happen like 2-3 char bosst events

#

exactly, u both got my point 😄

#

that's literally best thing, just enjoy the game however and whatever u can be doing, and as i sayd, ur moments will come ^^

steady reef
#

And solo modes are very good right now, Echidina/Thaemine at least, maybe in a few time you'll can push your alts naturally

hasty breach
#

Time to farm roster level doing the storylines instead of KT hahaha

sick totem
#

@hasty breach5 alts btw?

hasty breach
#

Yeah, i'm soloing everything that's available besides the Dragon raid at 1620 with 16 people that I can't, and I want to try Thaemine Hard too to get that sweet G4 gold

#

Yeah, but the other three are...

#

Welp

#

1500, 1475 and 1460 I believe

steady reef
#

The gold of raid are very good for our situation btw

hasty breach
#

The Dragon? Yeah that I've done, the scary one is thaemine pubg

#

Because solo is easy, but I don't think its even close to hard mode

manic quarry
#

You use silver now

hasty breach
#

Yeah, but they are out of mats hehe

#

Either orehas, or leapstones or shards. Each one has a different problem

sick totem
#

xD

hasty breach
#

And I don't wanna spend too much on them

steady reef
sick totem
#

yeah solo mode is more than fine tbh

hasty breach
#

I was kinda angsty to get unbound gold to buy some T4 gems, but I guess is fine if I don't pubg thaemine

#

Won't get gatekept if I don't queue raids lmao

steady reef
#

That's the point, basically lol

sick totem
#

do u know which is the main the biggest problem on lost ark?

#

GATEKEEP

#

if ppl are 1680, and doing.. idk, behemoth, they want in, 1680's

vast oriole
steady reef
#

Just take elixir and transcendence, they updated the system to be a little bit better/faster, so you'll be fine

steady reef
manic quarry
#

Can't worry about gatekeep when you have your transcendence and elixirs that is now easily obtainable.

Solo raid is a bonus.

sick totem
#

yeah thx god trans and elix now are sooo goood

manic quarry
#

I still couldn't believe they threw minesweeper out and said here play some die roll

hasty breach
#

Yeah, i've been having so much fun learning all this new raids solo mode up until 1640 (i left around brel and never went past G2), but the feeling of learning thaemine Hard G1-4 with stressed people is just not cool tbh

#

Need to fix my elixirs second stat, but at least they are at 40 with the helmet+gloves bonus. And my trascendence is at 105 or smth like that, need more thaemine shards to complete step 7 on a couple of items

sick totem
manic quarry
#

I still suck at thae gate 3 so I'm just sticking to solo raids on my alts

sick totem
#

well is fine

#

thankfully they are old raids now

#

important is learning aegir

#

and new coming brel

manic quarry
#

Brel rematch....

#

And then hello darkness my old friend

hasty breach
#

I've hard aeigir is kinda chill no? Haven't seen anything so far, don't want to spoil myself

manic quarry
#

Thaemine rematch

hasty breach
#

But I have the impression thaemine is the worst so far difficulty wise

sick totem
#

he is

#

^^

#

probly, similar to brel hard when she got released they are at some similar lvl, but still maybe thae harder

manic quarry
#

Thaemine only looks difficult when there was so much to pay attention to.

#

When you start recognizing Thaemine attack patterns it's just a walk in the park. Can't say the same for your other raid members

sick totem
#

he got so many tho, ngl

#

really many

hasty breach
#

lmao

#

One that confuses me a lot so far in that sense is the Dragon one (I keep forgetting the name lol)

#

Like

#

So many people, and so much stuff

#

I read the guides, ddge this dodge that, sounds good

#

I get ingame, i barely know where I am lol

sick totem
#

the 16 man?

hasty breach
#

Yea

sick totem
#

Behemoth

#

he's simple 🙂

#

easiest thing

#

over there

#

or probly is also cuz i one shot it everytime idk xD

hasty breach
#

Yeah I run it no problems, but I know I get wet and electrocuted waaaay to much because I can't see anything

sick totem
#

hm

#

did u run off allies animations tho?

hasty breach
#

As a setting ingame?

sick totem
#

sure

hasty breach
#

Probably have it on, I don't know

#

I like the games as pretty as I can hahaha

sick totem
#

in-game settings on this game are extremely well detailed

hasty breach
#

Maybe that's the thing

sick totem
#

if u check everything there

#

u will see muuuch stuff

#

there's like... everything lmao

hasty breach
#

Hmm, I'll tick that off then. Because I litreally cannot play that raid

sick totem
#

yeah man, i know u maybe enjoy it more by watching ur friends doing stuff, but u dont rly need that

#

at max, u leave only ur 4 party

#

but i would delete even that idk up to you

hasty breach
#

You can do that? damn it really has detailed settings as you say lol

sick totem
#

personally i watch only my animations

hasty breach
#

I'll take a closer look next time I log in

sick totem
#

yeah it has a lot, rly rly rly a lot, on everything

#

u can also, remove everything from ur friends

#

but leave like bards healing

#

cuz is important

hasty breach
#

Oh wow, that's so cool

#

And here I was having litreally everything checked on lol

sick totem
#

but dont ask me where it is, just check there xd, cuz now i logged off and i dont remember where it i s ahah

#

they do pretty often QOL patches,. that's why QOL on this game is good

#

even tho could be better on many aspects but yeah, we know, nothing is perfect

hasty breach
#

Game would be dead by now if they weren't patching so many QoL things imo

#

I for sure wouldn't have come back if solo mode didn't exist for example

sick totem
#

sure, imagine i know this game since Russia started it

#

so imagine how many things i saw

#

improvements*

hasty breach
#

I can imagine, yea

#

I played at EU launch a bit the story, and then came back for early T3 I believe

#

Up until brel

#

Learning vykas when it launched was probably the most fun i've had in this game hahaha

#

And the most stress too

#

50/50

sick totem
#

yeahhh, first legions were gr8

#

then they got a bit too hard and long

hasty breach
#

Yep, clown was testing my will to repeat the same thing 1000 times with people that couldn't last more than an hour in the same prog lobby

#

And brel was just the end for me

#

Too much

manic quarry
#

Shoutout to 6 gates abrelshud

sick totem
#

brel ragequitted many ppl

#

(==

hasty breach
#

Understandable hahahaha

sick totem
#

prokel, my boy

#

'' lf1 prokel, box for prokel ''

#

kekw

manic quarry
#

Before Akkan, before Thaemine. Brel was the HARDEST shit you can do

sick totem
#

i mean, in order

#

is thae,brel

#

no way akkan is harder than brel

manic quarry
#

Nah nah I'm just referring to the content timeline

sick totem
#

the real brel

#

ah oki

hasty breach
#

I'm still confused as to why there's a second brel coming next month lol

#

Like different face and everything

sick totem
#

she's without horns

candid lake
#

it's basiclly her comeback

sick totem
#

cuz we broke them xd

candid lake
#

after the events of brel v1

sick totem
#

she wants revenge

manic quarry
#

Long story short we only made brel sweat

hasty breach
#

Ah shit

manic quarry
#

She wasn't in her final form

candid lake
#

apparently though, this brel could be harder than thaemine (from what I heard) but don't quote me on that

#

hm specifically

vast oriole
#

its not

hasty breach
#

I read a lot of people scared of her yeah, 1710 people wondering if they can't even get accepted in lobbies

vast oriole
#

its the kazeros raid that will be harder than thaemine

manic quarry
#

Objectively brel is a lot stronger.

candid lake
#

nvm then

#

But the dps req is a yikes tho

manic quarry
#

Arks passives amiright

sick totem
#

u can do it

candid lake
#

144m dps req for hm p3

vast oriole
candid lake
vast oriole
#

so it will be way less

candid lake
#

oh I didn't see the little note on the bottom

vast oriole
#

i mean our dmg is really inflated with ark passive

manic quarry
#

Somehow brel II is weak to lightning

sick totem
#

cuz she's water

manic quarry
#

Gotta have a new LOS version

molten sinew
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Question about lobbies, if a lobby is saying HW lf a mokoko, is the mokoko also supposed to be at the HW level of comfort with the fight? Or is it that the mokoko is really just there to give the event currency

candid lake
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jkjk

hasty breach
sick totem
vast oriole
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i never took mokokos in thaemine tho

candid lake
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the yonly exception is prob behemoth

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b/c of the lvies system

vast oriole
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too much chance to get jailed

candid lake
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but it's not too bad tho

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But they can't be close or far unless if they know what they are doing for g2

candid lake
molten sinew
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Thankfully I learned behemoth pretty quick, but wanna jump into Thae and Echidna, dont the solo mode a few times each, but want to be respectful of other people

vast oriole
manic quarry
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Behemoth is very easy

molten sinew
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It is, I get to turn my brain off, love it

candid lake
vast oriole
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yeah

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or explain

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not like i do IT anymore

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stopped doing it for a longass time

molten sinew
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But long/short is if they're looking for a mokoko its okay that im still learning somewhat if I've read/watched guides

candid lake
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I'm still doing it b/c my alts are still rats

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with ignite event gems / pp event gems and not 100 trans

manic quarry
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I just skip ivory when elixir cuts were handed out like candy

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And then comes gold nerf

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Nail on the coffin

candid lake
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Also i want to phase out some of my roster

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so idk if i should ivnest more into it before i drop it, so 🤷

wild falcon
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How do I know which engravings I want on the stone for Ark Passive? (i have a glavier)

candid lake
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look at your class guide

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oh wait ( i miss read)

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I dont think it matters too too much unless if you're a support

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I would focus on the ones that are not hm/am/mb b/c they require positional

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Also adrenaline is kinda efficient unless if you have sources of + atk power %

shy chasm
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adren is the best to take if you have it

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if not any is fin

candid lake
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I would also get a stone that kinda is compatible with the other engraving just in case you ever want to switch

sick totem
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Adre top tier engr, Adre,Grudge,KBW

wild falcon
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oke thank u guys ❤️

candid lake
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Grudge is kinda less efficient but it's still good

distant cipher
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how to unlock gear conversion button??

timber mauve
vast oriole
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j -> GUIDE tab -> ''gear conversion ''quest (idk the name) -> do it

distant cipher
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thx

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which activities that give gold are actually feasable for a new character?

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honing is like 400-500g

buoyant dockBOT
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Gold Sources

Tradable Gold

Tradable Gold is gold that can be used to purchase items from the Market/Auction House as well as be traded to other players.

  • Legion Commander Raids
  • Kazeros Raids
  • Abyssal Dungeons
  • Adventure Island Gold Reward
  • Fate Embers (gold is withheld)
  • Life Skills
  • Selling tradeable items on Marketplace/Auction House.
  • Content Bids
  • Completing Super Mokoko Express Events (gold is withheld)
  • Royal Crystal Exchange (gold is withheld)
Bound Gold

Bound Gold is used exclusively for progression systems.

  • Gold Reward Chests from Una's Tokens
  • Solo Mode Raids
timber mauve
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Life skills such as logging and excavating.

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And solo raids

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And una task gold

distant cipher
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thats tuff

summer bear
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when is the next big update?

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or like when a new character comes out

timber mauve
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Idk off the top of my head.

fluid edge
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hi guys! i'm new, at the start should i just push the main quest? can i ignore the secondary quest?

vast oriole
summer bear
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aight

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good to know ty

fluid edge
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should i skip secondary quest? they give me only 200 roster xp

balmy plank
icy frost
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Is it worth to buy solars for adv honing?

vast oriole
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no

high stone
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Guys is it a bad time to push my alts to 1660 they are currently 1645 most dont have destiny stones and around 2k leaps?

vast oriole
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i mean

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dont push if you dont have mats

high stone
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okey gotta wait a while then 😦

prime dew
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does anyone know what skin chest this comes from? its like the bracelet weapon skin for breaker

valid helm
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It’s not worth to buy mats from market if you’re not a whale with a severe condition of fomo

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u can always tap it slow wahoo

minor briar
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on ignite servers

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but considering they used to be 90k right after the transfer

valid helm
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I forgot to buy the vykas pets

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I’m so sad

minor briar
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anything <40k is worth imo

valid helm
vast oriole
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Isnt that skin in the memorial pack

prime dew
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ahh yeah they're around 55k right now, I was wondering if i could find the selection box if it would be cheaper but I didn't know the name

minor briar
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i bought mine 2 weeks on for 40k on naw

valid helm
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To save you the time

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u can pin it

minor briar
valid helm
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And snipe a guy who’s selling low

minor briar
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ppl r dumb and list higher than the chest

valid helm
prime dew
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it was for the breaker 2nd anniversary skin. got it way cheaper from chest than indivdual pieces

valid helm
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Maybe I didn’t dig deep enough

minor briar
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and dumb ppl buy the more expensive weap than chest

prime dew
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yeah i've noticed that actually lol

prime dew
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ooh 28k is a good price

minor briar
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no arna

prime dew
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wait I don't think that's it.. doesn't include the breaker skin

minor briar
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breaker isn’t in that

prime dew
vast oriole
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ah

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so it was another chest just for breaker i guess

minor briar
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it was ignite only

vast oriole
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nice game

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i see

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stupid game

minor briar
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out of box sale

prime dew
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ah so the chest itself isn't available anymore?

minor briar
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it never was

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it was 650 rc straight up

prime dew
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ah that's okay, thanks for the info

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I'll just wait for a good price D:

vast oriole
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there wont be good price

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sicne its not available

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it wont go down

prime dew
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ahh well I'll just wait til I can afford it lmao

minor briar
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it will slowly drop

prime dew
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I'm hoping maybe they just do more unarmed skins of some sort

livid fossil
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It’s nice stupid game

torpid marsh
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Do T4 Bracelets use the Fragments we use to refine the accessories?

summer bear
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is she sopused to be tanky?

timber mauve
summer bear
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what

timber mauve
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That screenshot doesn’t look like lost ark.

summer bear
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its not?

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woops

timber mauve
manic quarry
thorny heath
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windows in performance mode?