was amazing
#lost-ark-help
thorny heath
rose wren
k
vast oriole
na just kidding its not written
it says you get it from yorn merchant
i just wanted to bully
XDDD
livid fossil
lol
thorny heath
vast oriole
dk why it doesnt say better
gusty kettle
t4 broke the game
vast oriole
it wasnt written in t3 aswell
gusty kettle
was asking about hunting maps yesterday cuz it still says tracking skilkl
also had some1 asking about the processor npc
need them ship parts xd
rose wren
hunting map still exist?
gusty kettle
they exist, u just cant get them anymore much like the old maps
chaos gate maps
same with plat fields
rose wren
chaos gate maps
sad they remove, lost mats income
gusty kettle
i mean, now u sit in 1 spot for chaos gate, so its hard to complain
vast oriole
Chaos gate sucked before
gusty kettle
altho they going in reverse and making field boss take 5 minutes
vast oriole
There was one really long, it was so dogshit
sick citrus
just saw this on reddit
made me wanna cry a bit
dude fked up 2 5/5's with one hit XD
gusty kettle
i did that once
rose wren
has to be clowning around or photoshop
sick citrus
i think every 5/3 i hit ever, i did 4 checking before i hit impue
on 5/5's i just stare for a bit - then deep breath before doing so xD
sick citrus
has to be clowning around or photoshop
look at the one comment above yours 😛
manic quarry
They really should fix the UIs for this. I had to be scrolling through all my elixirs that I had cut to find the good one I had made
sick citrus
They really should fix the UIs for this. I had to be scrolling through all my el...
actually how they made it, is simply intended to fk us
manic quarry
Yeah
sick citrus
they could have easily made it so, if you have shoulders it only impue on shoulders
valid helm
Idk what to say to you
sick citrus
me?
sick citrus
im not the one who fked this up to begin with my man
valid helm
me?
In general
No no
I’m talking not towards you
The reddit post/ generally speaking
sick citrus
generally speaking, if you come here a lot, you sure realize by now
that there is even more silly things people bypass
manic quarry
Hope it's a troll post. Otherwise, lack of basic reading ability
sick citrus
or do wrong
vast oriole
Hope it's a troll post. Otherwise, lack of basic reading ability
Would it surprise you?
Since when loa players read
valid helm
that there is even more silly things people bypass
That I know but it still fathoms me how people are this stupidly refusing to read a single line
Of words
sick citrus
Since when loa players read
sometimes people are tired too, i mean the patch with that powerpass 1580, i read it 3 times, didn't notice the one part it says it was given for free. i'm at fault, but happens
vast oriole
Na most people dont want to read
valid helm
Praying for arna revenge arc
vast oriole
I wasnt trageting you
valid helm
I’m prayinggggg
rose wren
whats discord
sick citrus
vast oriole
Praying for arna revenge arc
I heard theres ai to put the notes like the reddits video on tiktok
With the subway surfer
Im sure people would read patchnotes with that
manic quarry
iPad kid behavior
sick citrus
I heard theres ai to put the notes like the reddits video on tiktok
i read this twice
manic quarry
sick citrus
still have no idea wtf that even means
vast oriole
Sorry my english sucks
vast oriole
Theres an ai
sick citrus
its good, but what? 😄
manic quarry
still have no idea wtf that even means
vast oriole
To put text over those stupid subway surfer video
And you could put patchnotes on them
sick citrus
vast oriole
Its an idea i got
sick citrus
damn
rose wren
i ignore all ai voice over
valid helm
And those AI voice over videos
Reddit posts
My gf is secretly fucking my boss but she didn’t know I am an oil prince
manic quarry
rose wren
so many r telling false info about serious stuff,people believe its true
valid helm
Yea
sick citrus
you know its funny
i live in egypt - almost all egyptians think FB is the trash one
and reddit is the golden gooth
you are now, shtting on reddit. - there is others who does the same for Twitter or now X
all of them are simply full of shit i guess xD
valid helm
All of social media and legacy media is shit but, that’s not the purpose of this channel to discuss
That being said if you’re dumb enough to take anything being said to you at face value then you’re a failure human being and lack the basic skills of thinking
rose wren
most tiktok r
fossil gorge
IS IT WORTH DO CAOS DUNG WITH THE REST BONUS AT 20/200 ?
gusty kettle
kurzan front or chaos?
fossil gorge
caos
gusty kettle
imo u should only do chaos dungeon 3x a week per char, claim the boxes and move on
doesnt matter at all on rest bonus
fossil gorge
and abt kurzan front ?
gusty kettle
ur choice on kurzan front, i do it daily but if i stop needing shards i may do it rested
fossil gorge
hmmm thanks ❤️
gusty kettle
they made chaos 1x now right? cuz otherwise its 6x for all boxes
vast oriole
they made chaos 1x now right? cuz otherwise its 6x for all boxes
yes
vast oriole
but its still 3days
valid helm
back then it was x6 but still 2 per day so 3 days
scarlet mantle
Are the spec increase potions from guardian raids random drops?
vast oriole
yes
valid helm
really??
valid helm
I never knew
vast oriole
i think so yeah
valid helm
are you sure..?
vast oriole
no
scarlet mantle
I've done 1 night fox yoho and no spec increase
valid helm
is it then
scarlet mantle
not marked off on the codex
valid helm
did u take orb?
scarlet mantle
no guardian will though, you think that would matter?
brisk topaz
im pretty sure they are random drops
vast oriole
no guardian will though, you think that would matter?
maybe it does matter
scarlet mantle
that would be pretty troll lol, I'll do a few more and see if it drops
valid helm
whaaa
rose jewel
ignite roster on east
valid helm
oh ok
iron rock
what rolls should i have for my lfe skill tools ?
jagged zinc
Are the spec increase potions from guardian raids random drops?
they're guaranteed on first kill
not random drops
noobies in this chat
vast oriole
he said he didnt get it
gusty kettle
generally you want all rewards %, uncommon %, rare %... then the last few depends on tool. Usually minigame or durability.
rose jewel
and i thought it was guaranteed
scarlet mantle
it is guaranteed
I did a solo run with no guardian will
jagged zinc
go on an alt and claim the soul
scarlet mantle
I assume you need the will then which is annoying. I can do it again and screenshot for proof but that's getting silly
vast oriole
i can kill it for you on your alt if you need
scarlet mantle
i can kill it for you on your alt if you need
I have an alt I should be able to solo it on but thanks, will see if it works
vast oriole
sure
minor briar
thought it was guaranteed too
but maybe it’s another ignite roster issue
if tomo roster transferred
rose jewel
ehhh
ill go do it right now to check as well
actually no ill wait for him to test it
on the alt
if i need the soul so be it
rose jewel
fok
scarlet mantle
Ok then there's something weird with the achievements on the first char I did it on as I didn't get the achievement either
Idk, weird but I have it now so all good
buoyant dockBOT
valid helm
Idk, weird but I have it now so all good
from now on u can ignore baka arna and take my word
rose jewel
why is she green again
valid helm
the only green person who spreads misinfo
unreal
the only saving grace is that she leaks update
vast oriole
valid helm
our own intern kun
valid helm
yea
I mean its a very old system
that we almost never interact with since we mostly did these old gr's and just have it
just like how runes are drop chance
ancient light
i though so to but 3 guardians gave it insta
i was wondering how ppl had 1849 spec confused ts outta me
gusty kettle
tbh durability loss is good
saves so much repair
but yeah will agree that common % and speed are both dead rolls
zenith bear
is there an overview of how many expert tokens u get per raid?
gusty kettle
does that question get asked every day
rose wren
seems like that mokoko leaf too, image somewhere around here, if u look for similar post
mighty dew
how can i know if i got the relic enlightment potion from field boss?
gusty kettle
codex
valid helm
Check codex
vast oriole
alt + D
rose wren
xedoc
rose wren
thats not sold, so
hollow yarrow
what HW mean?
rose wren
homework, its weird
iron rock
is there a reason whjy i cant enter vykas solo gate 2 ?
iron rock
ive only completed 1 gate of 2 and its not letting me in to finish off g2
manic quarry
... did you quit the game in the middle of the solo raid post gate 1
iron rock
entry count
iron rock
... did you quit the game in the middle of the solo raid post gate 1
i left the raid like normal
iron rock
did you click stop after gate 1
clicked stop
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iron rock
need to write a ticket
how?
rose jewel
just check your mail
you will get a re entry ticket, solo modes 99% of the time give it back
group is where it gets funny
fierce bone
Hey i see some ppl use relic gear instead of ancient gear why is that?
gusty kettle
t3 or t4?
iron rock
you will get a re entry ticket, solo modes 99% of the time give it back
got nothing
vast oriole
its ancient akkan 1580 to 1620 -> 1640 to 1660 is relic -> then ancient
rose jewel
its not instant
may and will take a while
if after 48hrs you get nothing back, then ticket them
fierce bone
ahhhhhhh
vapid bluff
Is there a checklist anywhere out there that lists all systems in the game that increases dps? Like transcendence, elixirs, books, gems, honing, horizontal contents, cards, etc.
vast oriole
i dont think so
gusty kettle
u just follow any build guide they'll tell u all the diff things to get
except cards ig
rose jewel
they tell you card sets
which is los
and dd
there is no other card set unless youre a striker
gusty kettle
i meant demon damage etc for bosses
wet dagger
is dd 30 better or worst than los 24? i know its better than los 18
rose jewel
worse by a lot
wet dagger
so it goes los 18 < dd30 < los24 < los 30?
gusty kettle
dont forget lwc 7% crit
wet dagger
now the real question i know youre supposed to hold selectors till los30 but is it ever worth to use a few if you are close to los24?
rose jewel
why would you use lwc as a dps increase when dd is much easier and faster to get
gusty kettle
never use selectors early
vapid bluff
I've listed these so far (forigt tripods), wonder if in missing anything else
gusty kettle
thats just listing everything in game
wet dagger
ability stones, skill runes, tripod levels, skill potions
patent marsh
Hey guys, I just got my Slayer to 1600 (woo). Sadly I didnt put the hyper express event on it (oh well). But I was wondering, since Im going to sit at this for a while till the next powerpass or express event.
do I just need to do kurzan quests
to be able to farm t4 mats?
wet dagger
kurzan gives t3 mats
im 1620 and doing chaos dungeons/guardian raids and still getting t3 mats
i think the t4 chaos dungeon/guardian raid doesnt open till 1640
wet dagger
oh no clue
patent marsh
All good
humble matrix
fml
T3 1600-1620 is your biggest hurdle right now, focus on that
You can't get t4 stuff until you're tier 4 yourself
wet dagger
theres a message you get if you try to farm lumber in north kurzan i forget what it was
i think it was something bout my item level?
also cant you still use the express on the 1600 character? i thought you get rewards upto 1610
and then again at 1620
patent marsh
You only get 1 per account
wet dagger
oh you used it on a different character
patent marsh
and I did it on my Souleater when I first started, ended up being meh to me
Damn, I spent so much resources going from 1580 - 1600 (gold wise). I feel like Im just going to be patient for a month and stack up gold. Wait for a hyper event
wet dagger
what level is it?
casue your soul eater can farm t4 mats if you get it to 1620 or whatever
patent marsh
I got a 1590 Souleater and a 1600 Slayer
wet dagger
cause it gives you gear that will let you hit 1640
humble matrix
Damn, I spent so much resources going from 1580 - 1600 (gold wise). I feel like ...
Next one is February 26th
patent marsh
but lowkey my souleater feels so much weaker than my slayer . Playing nights edge
got everything setup according to maxroll could just be playing it poorly but still\
lavish mortar
likely playing it poorly if i had to guess
nights edge is not easy to play, whereas slayer is pretty straight forward
lavish mortar
yeah it doesn't have a strict rotation like NE does, pretty straight forward press the buttons and do the damage
that said, if you are enjoying NE, just stick with it and try get some practice in on trixion and guardians 🙂
patent marsh
Thank you Hunter 🙂
I think Ive just preferred easier classes cause it makes learning the bosses/raids more pleasant. Where as I fumble my rotation quite a bit on my Souleater
lavish mortar
totally understandable
raids are very hard in this game when you're starting out
marsh lynx
does nobody do guardian raids anymore? cant find a single lobby for da monke
rose jewel
extremely rare for people to do them under 1600
you dont need them as well, you can get mats from other places
ask for help in area chat, perhaps someone can help
no guarantees
what you can do is go to a super low level one to get the event mats from it
the drop number is the exact same, then you can buy stuff from the event shop
i believe there are a lot of orehas in there besides other things
go and literally one shot Urnil
fossil gorge
im so sad i want to play more with my arcana but i did all the content that i can and dont have level to the others 😭
minor briar
do i up grade gems sig
to wat on who from wat with wat gold budget
balmy plank
T4 gems are almost always better.
A T3 level 7 = Tier 4 level 5
Same dmg increase plus bonus Attack Power from t4 gems
T4 is always 2 levels lower than tier 3
shy chasm
when do i pop therelicaccfrom t4 on
what
balmy plank
when do i pop therelicaccfrom t4 on
You equip t4 relic accessories at 1660 when you have enough Aegir peices to transition to Ark Passive gearing
fossil gorge
You equip t4 relic accessories at 1660 when you have enough Aegir peices to tran...
and when i know it is enough ?
balmy plank
Depends on your class. Your class guide on the Nexus should say
Most classes need 2 or 3 pieces
vast oriole
Whats your class
fossil gorge
arcana
fossil gorge
Depends on your class. Your class guide on the Nexus should say
hmmm
gonna check it
livid fossil
did i miss out on ebony cie ticket dude is he no olongerin the city
cube
i have papers that i cna exchange for cube tickets
dull leaf
fossil gorge
so, if i wanna spend money in the game (to my arcana)..what is the best option/way to do it ?
fossil gorge
Its best value for your money
because of the cards ? or the material honing
balmy plank
Generally spending money for ilvl is pretty wasteful because an express event will come along and catch a f2p player up with no money spent.
Ark Pass' are typically good value tho.
If youre planning on spending the special holiday $100 bundles give 4k extra RC
Buying Skin chests and selling for gold typically gets you more gold than a straight exchange in the cash shop too
vast oriole
^ this
balmy plank
Card Bundles in the shop are usually a bad value. I think RN the straight mat bundles are not a great value either
vast oriole
(The legendary s3 for arcana looks good btw)
balmy plank
I think the Bonus Room Bundles are barely a deal atm too. Not a lot of value
narrow quartz
db t3 -t 4
which engraving are u playing? DB Surge stay lvl 10 T3 gem dmg, other upgrade to T4.
DB RE just upgrade everything to T4 gem
balmy plank
Founder pack bundles I think are a decently good value
livid fossil
which engraving are u playing? DB Surge stay lvl 10 T3 gem dmg, other upgrade to...
d b RE
narrow quartz
then just upgrade all gem to T4
livid fossil
k
balmy plank
did i miss out on ebony cie ticket dude is he no olongerin the city
Still there. This is the npc I know of in Kalaja/Feiton
Just beside the Pet NPC
rose wren
search exist, find them all citys
spare kestrel
is the lost ark trusted still a thing? i vaguely remember seeing a post saying we can get powerpass without it a few months back
humble matrix
game just boted me out of themine
Because they know you're going to destroy him, get back in there and do it 🫡 
spare kestrel
It seems this newer powerpass requires trusted
rip i guess its back to waiting days for powerpass while slowly progressing the first continent
balmy plank
Another new player I was helping got it in just a few days of playing. Didnt take too long
Hopefully its fast for you too
wet dagger
will the quality of my 1620 transfer to my 1640 tier 4 gear?
balmy plank
Yes
All modifiers to gear, quality, elixirs, trans, adv honing, carry over to new gear when gear transfering
wet dagger
is there anything else to do with the processed chaos stone? i have 150 character bound and all my armor is already 90 quality plus
balmy plank
You use them when crafting stuff like Soundstones for Transcendance retrys
Quality taps on alts
Using in crafting some other gear upgrade things
You typically collect tons tho. I wouldnt worry about em
wet dagger
they are charcter bound so cant use them on alts
balmy plank
True, but no biggie
wet dagger
so should i hold onto them? or try to get higher quality
all my stuffs already at like 90ish do i just go for 100
balmy plank
I wouldnt go totally broke on them because you want them for other stuff. But it doesnt hurt to spend if you have lots extra
If you wanna burn gold for quality gamba, go for it
I like to keep at minimum 100 just in case
balmy plank
Those are just free qual taps. Might as well use em
livid fossil
what was i supposed to do after the red circle explosion she went to the middle ad then did something and then i died lol
livid fossil
97x the
shy chasm
for what
livid fossil
g1
narrow quartz
livid fossil
it wsas right after the red circles you need to dodge
narrow quartz
at least tell us what raid are u in
shy chasm
sir
balmy plank
Use words, we cant read your mind
shy chasm
what is the raid
balmy plank
We dont know the raid youre doing
livid fossil
i ran to teh middle
shy chasm
go next to her and cast balthor
livid fossil
o ok
shy chasm
you do the mech like your supposed to
but that would require you having low dps or just holding dps
so usually just balthor
livid fossil
k
balmy plank
Between 145x and 100x if you counter OR stagger the boss you get a target below your feet. You want to stand in one of the three craters around the map for her to target you on those. If you do it 2 times at 100x she will get launched in the air. If you dont launch her this way use Balthor and he will launch her in the air
spare kestrel
Between 145x and 100x if you counter OR stagger the boss you get a target below ...
If my memory serves me correct, 100x is the threshold for the mech, whereas even if you're above 100x, if you hit counter 2 times and hit same crater both times she does nech immediately
flat tulip
above 145 counters don't give you the target
patent marsh
Update: Switched to Full Moon Harvest and it plays so much nicer
why the heck do so many people recommend Nights Edge for a beginner D:
lavish mortar
why the heck do so many people recommend Nights Edge for a beginner D:
It requires less stuff to get started, as wealth runes can take awhile to acquire for FMH, and fmh kinda really wants higher quality gear, whereas that's kinda optional for nights edge
cursive swan
any idea where to find lava grape?
gusty kettle
nights edge has swiftness built in
balmy plank
I don't believe the final food for n Kurzan is available yet
paper walrus
livid fossil
Dam mech is not working wth I threw bomb on tenticals and there was still more so fail
Do I aim for more than one
balmy plank
You just need to get picked up by 1. Stand on it and destruction grenade it. That's all
There are extra tentacles as a failsafe if you miss one
lunar brook
You're supposed to kill one then stand next to it to get grabbed
livid fossil
No the first time I toss bomb and 1 went away not the rest
flat tulip
are you talking about the tentacles that cover the entire arena, or the ones with the red berry?
gusty kettle
g1 thae?
livid fossil
YES but in solo
gusty kettle
since when is the raspberry in normal
livid fossil
i swear i hit one of the tenticals in solo and it only took one out
jagged zinc
Dam mech is not working wth I threw bomb on tenticals and there was still more s...
the bomb automatically destroys all the tentacles in the area of the explosion
you threw it incorrectly if you claim its only one that went in
livid fossil
ok
jagged zinc
alternatively, every single one of the tentacles has a damage check
in solo mode, you can just kill ~7 tentacles and all tentacles on the map will retract
flat tulip
since when is the raspberry in normal
not that raspberry 
jagged zinc
alternatively, alternatively, all the tentacles have a very low destruction check
so if you have destruction skills you can use those on the tentacles as well
flat tulip
what class are you using?
humble matrix
Does the first mech wipe you if you fail it? I'm talking about the stagger check after destroying tentacles
jagged zinc
yes
humble matrix
Maybe that's what he is talking about then
jagged zinc
that is what i addressed.
humble matrix
I see that, just wanted to be sure that mech can kill you if you fail it
patent marsh
Does anyone where this wandering merchant is? Nox (Arthetine)
I try to find him via Map and nothings coming up
humble matrix
@livid fossil If you having problems with the stagger check, use a whirlwind grenade
gusty kettle
currently the wandering merchants are away until the hour
serene vine
how many behemoth scales can you get weekly
livid fossil
taking a breal i got farther which is a pluss tommorw we wil get g1 done 
serene vine
box is 30, normal is 30
👍
wet dagger
how much harder are normal raids like echidna thaemine compared to solo?
gusty kettle
thaemine is much harder im sure, echidna slightly but more group dependent
really depends how juiced your group is, thaemine can be jail, but so can echidna
summer bear
ok
gusty kettle
same with all dps
wet dagger
really depends how juiced your group is, thaemine can be jail, but so can echidn...
im the jailer
summer bear
sad
wet dagger
i did them both in solo mode but not sure if i want to grief people in party finder yet
humble matrix
how much harder are normal raids like echidna thaemine compared to solo?
Solo mode is a joke compared to the group mode, my brain turns off during solo mode, also can just hyper awaken when the boss is at like x90-x100 bars and they dead
gusty kettle
striker and mayhem zerker i think run slightly diff sets tho
wet dagger
Solo mode is a joke compared to the group mode, my brain turns off during solo m...
ok i will look for learning parties for next week so i dont jail
gusty kettle
also guardian raids tend to use very different cards
humble matrix
ok i will look for learning parties for next week so i dont jail
Great idea, that's the best thing to do, especially for thaemine
wet dagger
thaemine was a pain in the ass
wet dagger
idk if its my graphics or my eye sight but i can never tell which arm he is raising
in gate 3
summer bear
what do i do w thi?
humble matrix
idk if its my graphics or my eye sight but i can never tell which arm he is rais...
I can't blame you, everything is blue and black lol
gusty kettle
echidna is harder... but most of the mechanics other ppl can do for you... the one thing you need to learn is jumprope
summer bear
what?
balmy plank
what do i do w thi?
Its a reentry ticket for a raid. Likely given because you quit out or d/c'd from it
summer bear
i hate that monkey
humble matrix
echidna is harder... but most of the mechanics other ppl can do for you... the o...
Hmm I think thaemine g3 harder than echidna g2 🤔
gusty kettle
yes because thaemine is 1shot, while echidna u can get MC and still live
humble matrix
Yep lol
flat tulip
I mean, thae g3 is "hard" only because you can get yeeted off if you aren't comfortable with his patterns
most of the sword patterns you can just follow party
gusty kettle
stage break is super dangerous for proggers, and knowing his red mechs esp pacman in hard for new players...
should probably do normal thaemine before hard
flat tulip
pacman is only in hard mode
humble matrix
Hardmode thaemine must've been a nightmare back during ilvl days
flat tulip
why would someone jump straight into hard when they don't know the fight at all
flat tulip
yes well he was asking about hard
huh?
gusty kettle
because they think solo -> hard same thing
humble matrix
He said compared to normal and hard, so he meant both xD
gusty kettle
definitely recommend starting with normal on both
humble matrix
Indeed
gusty kettle
echidna u can get away with hard maybe
humble matrix
echidna u can get away with hard maybe
Yep because like you said people will do the mechs for you, just gotta focus on staying alive
flat tulip
echidna g2 is definitely harder to learn because of charm
gusty kettle
yeah i see mokokos die in seconds to her charm
but tbh u would die in thaemine g3 in seconds too
flat tulip
yeah, but you can easily wipe the group while charmed
humble matrix
yeah, but you can easily wipe the group while charmed
If you're really juiced
flat tulip
especially if it's during a mech when people need to do shit
nah, you don't need to be juiced
gusty kettle
both of them are not that hard to carry 1-2 players, it's just when the whole group is new its a nightmare of wipe fest
humble matrix
I've seen people get charmed and do no damage but others just kill the whole team xD
humble matrix
True
wet dagger
whose the advance honing expert im a bit lost
flat tulip
?
humble matrix
whose the advance honing expert im a bit lost
If you mean where to go to advance hone, it's the same place as regular honing but you shouldn't be doing that though
wet dagger
no i mean if i should be doing it or not
flat tulip
not until you reach 1670
humble matrix
Sounds like you're a new player, so nah you shouldn't until you're ilvl 1670
flat tulip
which is +16 on t4 gear
wet dagger
so i hit 1620, im playing on my highest character and have the express/event pass thingy so i get t4 gear that i can transfer my 1620 to get 1640 gear i believe
and then i have a bunch of t3 mats left over so i was told to advance hone at 1620 before going to 1640 to use these up
flat tulip
wet dagger
but isnt all this stuff minus the harmony shards convertable into t4 mats anyways? like the leapstones and gems and orehas
flat tulip
you should definitely do that
humble matrix
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wet dagger
can you explain why using my gold on 1620 for advance honing is better than saving it to push from 1640 to like 1650?
or why i shouldnt save that gold to push my 1580 character to 1600?
flat tulip
try to get as many pieces you can to AH 10, although idk how far 2.3m shards gets you
it's not the gold that's relevant
it's the mat cost
wet dagger
what you mean
like t4 mats are expensive so id spend more pushing 1640-1650 then i would advance honing?
flat tulip
t4 mats are more valuable for normal honing until 1670, and since the t3 to t4 conversion rate for mats is so bad, you don't get nearly the same value
humble matrix
like t4 mats are expensive so id spend more pushing 1640-1650 then i would advan...
Yes you would, 1640-1650 is expensive, it'll take like all the gold you have now, prob more
flat tulip
the main point being, if you AH in tier 3, you can spend all of the mats you get in t4 to get to 1660 far easier than only through normal honing
wet dagger
what is more power increase? 1640 - 1650 or doing advance honing and getting like +10 on my weapon? cause i dont htink i have enouhg mats/gold to advacne hone, i can only get 1 piece to +10 likely
flat tulip
with much better rates
wet dagger
the main point being, if you AH in tier 3, you can spend all of the mats you ge...
can you explain this, i dont understand AH is auction house?
flat tulip
ah sorry, AH as in Advanced Honing
humble matrix
what is more power increase? 1640 - 1650 or doing advance honing and getting lik...
People mainly do advance honing for ilvls not really power increase
wet dagger
is a +10 in advance honing on my weapon like a +10 item level? so instead of my weapon being 1620 it'd be 1630?
flat tulip
yes
at the very least I'd temper (unlock advanced honing) each piece with the t3 shards
wet dagger
and that stays forever?
flat tulip
yes
humble matrix
is a +10 in advance honing on my weapon like a +10 item level? so instead of my ...
If you manage to advance hone all your gear to +10 now before transferring, once you transfer you'd be like ilvl 1650
flat tulip
advanced honing is a permanent ilvl increase on that gear piece
wet dagger
If you manage to advance hone all your gear to +10 now before transferring, once...
oh right i have to do them all to get the increase if i only do weapon my character level is only going to be like +2
or somwhere around that
humble matrix
Yeah
flat tulip
it's still worth doing with whatever mats you have in t3
wet dagger
how important is this?
flat tulip
you'll have to do it sooner or later anyway
wet dagger
i have 3 characers a 1620, a 1585 and a 1580 and i want to push the 1585/1580 to 1600 so they can start farming elixers and then transendence so should i use my gold on that instead?
gusty kettle
you should push ur 1620s to 1640 immediately if u dont play to adv hone right now
depends on your extra materials tho
wet dagger
if i advance hone later like at 1640 my t3 mats are useless for advance honign correct? i would have to just conver them to t4 mats
flat tulip
yes
gusty kettle
its 5:1 when u convert except shards are lost
wet dagger
depends on your extra materials tho
heres my mats right now for bound stuff
gusty kettle
you generally lose 50% value of ur current items
yeah u probably want to do adv hone at least 1 item
wet dagger
so as someone who doesnt know what there doing
the best thing for me to do is advance hone my weapon use all my t3 mats try to get +10 and then go to 1640?
flat tulip
at the very least I'd wait another week or two so you can temper all gear
gusty kettle
you can adv hone 10 weapon, then gear transfer everything except 1 piece of armor
wet dagger
am i tempering all my gear or just the weapon?
wet dagger
what does tempering mean
flat tulip
you unlock the ability to advance hone on that gear piece
flat tulip
because you won't have any use for the t3 shards once you transfer
gusty kettle
problem is you need to clear echidna for the 'tempering' which only delays ur ability to hit 1640 which therefore delays ur gold
wet dagger
oh so you just temper but you dont push any levels on the aromr pieces?
wet dagger
so the reason im supposed to temper now is because when i hit t4 it will cost t4 mats which are more expensive?
flat tulip
yes
wet dagger
so you are saying to temper now while im on t3 just to unlock the advance honing system thing for the pieces?
using my worthless mats
gusty kettle
sorta, i mean the leaps for t3 are still expensive
narrow quartz
Advan honing as much as you can, in case you have T3 material.
It will be a very good invest for long term
cuz Advan honing in T4 is dam expensive with current mat price
but in case u dont have any T3 mat, just jump to T4 and do daily T4 for mat
gusty kettle
you're just trying to use up your t3 bound materials at highest value
you lose 50% value when you go to t4
this is why i suggest keeping 1 piece of armor in T3
if u have materials left but not eyeballs
wet dagger
so it cost this to temper?
so 12 x 5 armor = 60 + 30 for weapon so 90 scales
i have 61 scales right now and 10 eyeballs and eyeballs convert into 2 scales each so i have 81 scales right now? is that right
wet dagger
i thought temper was just to unlock it?
flat tulip
it is
wet dagger
im not pushing anything to +10 except my weapon
gusty kettle
doesnt mean you should wait ti unlock
flat tulip
narrow quartz
i think just try to AH your Weapon and then go T4:D
gusty kettle
yes, AH10 1 item, see what ur left with
then we can decide if u should just push all to T4 or wait 1 week
flat tulip
if you wait for weekly reset, you'll have enough eyes from the solo vendor to temper all of your armor
wet dagger
ok so am i understanding this right for temper
I need 91 scales i have 81 atm (61 scales + 10 eyes) - this is just to unlock the advance honing for all my pieces, this doesn't require any other mats correct?
wet dagger
and then once i do that, then i use all my t3 mats on just my weapon for now and try to get it to +10
gusty kettle
or 12 for armor or something
depends what ur going for
you could just do 2 armors
flat tulip
this guy 
south lintel
farm pet abilities only affect farm lifeskilling? or do they affect regular lifeskilling outside of your sh as well?
flat tulip
only farm
south lintel
thought so. rip. ty tho
gusty kettle
how many scales do you have Shadow?
wet dagger
61 scales 10 eyeballs
gusty kettle
ok so you have enough to unlock multiple temperings
just do that now
2 armor 1 weapon maybe
possibly 3 armor if u convert eyes
narrow quartz
those scroll in AH are pretty good.
i used both it and toping. Great success 60% and great success x2 40% iirc
tasty
gusty kettle
i donno if hes done behemoth yet
wet dagger
i have not
gusty kettle
actually thats echidna
wet dagger
does that give stuff too? i know it gives weapon transendence
flat tulip
those scroll in AH are pretty good.
i used both it and toping. Great success 60%...
nah, they lied to us
it's 30 / 20
wet dagger
ok so very dumb question
narrow quartz
wet dagger
but why am i tempering the armor pieces if i dont plan on pushing levels on it?
flat tulip
to use the t3 shards
gusty kettle
because it saves you T4 shards
flat tulip
you can't convert them
wet dagger
like looking at the mat requirements on maxroll i only have enouhg mtas to get weapon to +10
wet dagger
oh tempering cost t3 shards too?
IT DONT SAY THAT ON THE MAXROLL GUIDE LOL
oh its just like regular honing
where you feed shards to be able to hone
like the inital shard input before you can use books and shit
gusty kettle
yes, its a guaranteed version of honing
wet dagger
so the reason im supposed to temper now is cause we want me to use up my shitter harmony shards and not the highly valueable t4 shards
gusty kettle
t3 shards are worthless
wet dagger
ill get 10 more eyes from the soloraid shop on reset so i can just wait till then so i can temper everything
gusty kettle
ur not saving that much by waiting
flat tulip
that's the best way to go about it
gusty kettle
tempering is only a small fraction of the total shards used for AH
wet dagger
and the express pass gives me 12 more eyes too if i clear echidna again next week
gusty kettle
im not saying he cant wait
flat tulip
next week you can go straight into t4 after you unlocked all tempering
gusty kettle
im just trying to break his mentality that its worth waiting to go T4
1640 has too many benefits to wait forever
he can start earning his T4 materials right now in kurzan front
wet dagger
i should stop doing chaos dungeons and guardian raids right now too right?
so i can get rest bonus for when i hit t4
since i dont need any mats
gusty kettle
i mean if ur doing veskel and selling the leapstones then might be worth just doing that
but yeah fk chaos dungeon
flat tulip
so i can get rest bonus for when i hit t4
yeah, although you'll have to skip on doing that on reset day too, to gain 1 use of rested
humble matrix
1640 has too many benefits to wait forever
I totally agree with you
gusty kettle
so yeah, use up as many of your bound materials as u can within the next week and then move to t4
tempering every piece of gear is not that important
but it helps
wet dagger
ok i can temper my stuff today though for the weapon and like 3 armor and then ill figure out how the system works
humble matrix
Yeah like you won't get +10 on all your gear for quite some time, you need more gold for sure which takes weeks
gusty kettle
getting 2 pieces will save you a lot of time going to 1660
shouldnt worry about getting more than 2
wet dagger
do you guys do this shit on your alts too?
gusty kettle
yes i did it on my alts
didnt get 10 adv hone on all but i at least used up as many bound materials as i could
especially leftover juice materials from guild shop
narrow quartz
yes, most my alt do AH +10 on Weapon.
but i regret i only did AH weapon, when i can AH some more
gusty kettle
use now better than later since u lose 50% value like i said
its just gonna eat ur gold
not that u wont have to do it later anyway
wet dagger
is there a secret to using the scrolls or do i just use it on the first tap?
that scroll on the bottom right
gusty kettle
yes
wet dagger
not tons
gusty kettle
well use the ones that are T3 only at least
when u hit max ancestral meter
dont juice unless its max meter
wet dagger
oh the ones i have have t4 mats as option too
narrow quartz
use on Grace/6 orbs
wet dagger
i used up all my t3 solar and graces when i pushed from 1610 to 1620
gusty kettle
i dont know the value difference, might be worth opening tho
flat tulip
don't think so, unless we're talking pure gold price
flat tulip
hell naw
gusty kettle
think this just doubles ur chances at g reat success
flat tulip
imo, I think it's a waste to use t4 juice boxes on this
gusty kettle
doesnt mean its a waste to buy them from AH
wet dagger
when it says success 80% great success 15% does that mean 80% successs, 15% great success, 5% failure? or does it mean 80% success and 20% failure and if you hit a successs you have 15% to x2 it?
gusty kettle
its 80% normal, 15% great, 5% 2x great
gusty kettle
minimum yes
the big improvements come with max ancestral grace tho
u want 2x great success with x5 XP
wet dagger
and to get to +10 weapon i need 100 taps maximum?
assuming i dont hit any great success or x2
gusty kettle
i mean ur guaranteed to get at least 20 XP on the grace
cuz u get free taps or 3x XP
wet dagger
do the %s changer later on or is it the same the whole way through?
like should i be using the scroll now or should i wait til lvl 9?
gusty kettle
only goes up with juice materials
u use when u have grace
u cant go over 10 levels
so getting a big boost when ur level 9.9 isnt that great
wet dagger
when you say grace you mean the solar mats right?
wet dagger
like i should be using it now
gusty kettle
...
gusty kettle
narrow quartz
full that on grace/6 orb only
wet dagger
ok so use the scroll when my grace meter is full
gusty kettle
so yes u want to use juice materials when u have ancestor's grace up
why is there maint today?
wet dagger
do i also want to save those solar grace, protectoin, blessings for when i have ancestor grace or they dont matter when i ues em?
gusty kettle
yes use on ancestors grace
idk if u should buy them either, but definitely use the ones u have in stash
wet dagger
any of you guys know any youtube videos on this? i feel bad annoying everyone with noob questions lol
narrow quartz
why is there maint today?
AGS maintain today so they can shorter tommorow main for party
shy chasm
any of you guys know any youtube videos on this? i feel bad annoying everyone wi...
is simple when you get 6 bubble use juice
its*
wet dagger
just noticed it goes to +20 for advance honing, i should only push to +10 on my weapon and move to an armor piece or would it better to like +12 my weapon
gusty kettle
i'd recommend doing ur armor
depends how much blue/red stones u have
also 11-20 is much more expensve, u wont have the gold
in fact im curious how much gold u'll have after this
wet dagger
so now is when i should use all my solar grace, protection, blessing and my scroll?
flat tulip
yes
gusty kettle
you're still on lvl 1?
paper glacier
anyone know how many clear medals echid/thae give per gate
old peak
gusty kettle
i dont see anything in the pins tbh
gusty kettle
dont use juice uncheck
wet dagger
oh yeah its just checked cause i had ancestor last round
wet dagger
i have 26 of these i should use these too or save them for my other characters?
gusty kettle
idk, u can buy them from the solo exchange now
i'd use some to get lvl 10 at least
if u hvae to
wet dagger
i think the event shop has them too
so if i run out of the solar grace stuff should i buy them from auction house or not worth?
gusty kettle
you'd have to math it out
its well worth it if u were using tradable materials
but u have to weigh the value of fusions + gold to the juice cost and how much u get outa it
gusty kettle
guild shop def has them but not a lot, u had to buy them weekly
i had thousands on my chars before T4 from guild shop
wet dagger
ill just grab the solo raid shop ones
open spindle
omg I didn't advance hone before going to T4. What can I do now?
open spindle
I have 2 million tier 3 honor shards
open spindle
Is it cost effective to just craft an akkan gear and hone that to 1620 and advance hone on it
I'm currently 1645
gusty kettle
its not necessarily cost effective, depends on bound materials
open spindle
and my bound mats are converted already since three weeks ago
When should I advance hone in that case
gusty kettle
you want to use as many bound T3 materials as you can on adv hone if u have the gold
open spindle
I converted those mats already weeks ago
paper glacier
i dont see anything in the pins tbh
open spindle
So I guess I'll just advance hone in T4
gusty kettle
then ur screwed on that character
paper glacier
its updated sheet which is good
open spindle
When do I start adv honing on T4
narrow quartz
Is it cost effective to just craft an akkan gear and hone that to 1620 and advan...
i did. and its not worth unless u have alot of T3 oreha and solar
gusty kettle
around +16 for 1-10 adv hone and +19 for 11-20
wet dagger
omg
open spindle
Ok I'm at +11 right now so got a long way to go
wet dagger
i got great success + the blessing that gave me x5 so i got a full level
narrow quartz
gusty kettle
ok how much bound materials u got
wet dagger
i ran out
gusty kettle
no more leap?
gusty kettle
might wanna use them on a piece of armor
open spindle
Sorry to interrupt - Which T3 mats do you buy from the solo raid shop to convert to T4? Do I buy all the fusion mats or just the red ones?
gusty kettle
depends how much u think u can afford
gusty kettle
i'd just do prime oreha and radiant leaps
wet dagger
oh i can get more leaps from soloexchange too
ok ill start on an armor piece
does it matter what armor?
gusty kettle
no
wet dagger
i have a piece at 100 quality should i be doing that one
gusty kettle
doesnt matter
you can always do a little more next week but try to hit 1640 before u raid
wet dagger
so if my math is right it cost me 46000 red obliteration stone, 1512 leapstones, 56k gold, 1520 oreha, roughly 6M harmony shards, and idk how much of those solars i used
gusty kettle
getting adv hone 10 weapon is honestly good enough if u wanna stop now, but getting another piece will only speed up 1660
open spindle
Is the red eye only good for tempering?
wet dagger
i dont have a 1640
open spindle
Oh yea try to get one of them rare relic book drops. Can make easy 250k
gusty kettle
the chaos gate shard bags worth a bit too, but im holding until wild soul
narrow quartz
Is the red eye only good for tempering?
Kazeros shop have some stuff u can buy with Red eye. when u done with tempering
some T4 mat and juice iirc
gusty kettle
yeah you can buy some emotes, wing mount, or just materials
open spindle
I'm gonna go buy the mount and emotes
gusty kettle
no
wet dagger
why did i think reset was tomorrow
gusty kettle
just maintenance
open spindle
Because I saved all my akkan eyes for future and then they came out with T4 and pretty much give everything for Akkan gear for free now
wet dagger
how long does maintenacne last
open spindle
3 hours
gusty kettle
shoul be in the announcements or official updates section
oh ok its 3 hours tonight
and 2 hours tomorrow
open spindle
Should I be saving T4 mats/books for alts/future characters? I saved akkan decay books months ago for new characters but now the game just gives you everything for free to hit Tier 4.
open spindle
By the time I catch up to end game content, they be giving that stuff for free and having some new gimmick in the game
gusty kettle
most ppl just sell their tradable materials while the market is high
you have to figure out the best time to sell or use
i started my 2nd roster about 10 months ago im already 1660x5
you can do it just takes a year
open spindle
Well for the akkan books they are just going to be handing out power passes for south or north kurzan like candy so maybe I just use as soon as I get them
gusty kettle
my main is 1680x3 but could maybe push a 4th
just gotta make use of the expresses and events
open spindle
I have a 1645 and a 1590. Do you recommend pushing the 1590?
gusty kettle
its free to hit 1580
open spindle
A 1645*
gusty kettle
just push what you can, 1640 is highly recommended right now
open spindle
The 1645 was as a result of the hyper awakening event
Should I just keep honing that
gusty kettle
use bound materials for now imo
gusty kettle
but u should probably push some of your low characters if you can with free books
2 express coming in the future
open spindle
My 1590 is my OG character so I have so much bound mats on them but it will go into my gold funds
I have enough bound mats to get them to 1620 easy
wet dagger
ok i got my armor to lvl 3, im at 60k gold, still have a tons of leapstones and blue protection stones but ran out of oreha and the solar stuff
so i should stop here?
open spindle
Just the gold is shared between that and my T4
gusty kettle
use more fusions if u can afford it, you can also gear transfer all but the 1 piece of armor
and use solo shop to buy more stuff in next couple weeks to use
wet dagger
dont gear transfer the piece im currently advance honing?
gusty kettle
sure, or any piece u have unlocked
getting lvl 3 on one and 2 on another is equivilent to 5
wet dagger
i think id have to get to pieces to +10
cause im 1620 if i go to 1640 but dont push one armor
wet dagger
ill need 20 levels on something else and i have +10 on my weapon
gusty kettle
no, they should come with the new classes
wet dagger
so ill need an armor at +10 too i think
gusty kettle
wild soul and female pally
open spindle
Oh so february and late summer
Unfortunately I do not plan to play this game for that long
I will stick for february but then will quit for a few months and pick it up when I'm bored
open spindle
What is your best prediction for the pass
gusty kettle
the free boosts will help you if u ever decide to play again
open spindle
Free echidna gear?
gusty kettle
im assuming that they are going to give ppl 1640 free for the forseeable future
open spindle
Maybe I don't hone my alts right now and can just express pass them
gusty kettle
1580 at minimum but thats really far back
you should just make all ur chars 1580 since it only costs silver
1600 is very cheap too
1620 is not cheap
without express
wet dagger
what about pushing to 1600 or 1610 to farm elixers/transendence mats
gusty kettle
only reason to push higher is if u wanna group
open spindle
They give all that for free
Which elixers are you farming, the ones you get from the raid cost gold to transmute.
gusty kettle
i wouldnt use gold cost ones unless i was close to 40sum
its a matter of gatekeep mostly
open spindle
Same and even then for a 1600 - 1610 account, 40 is not needed
gusty kettle
if ur doing solo then its w/e
open spindle
What T4 gems can you sit on? Level 5s?
open spindle
I have T3 gems on my alts that I can move to my main and transfer to T4 but my alts all use event gems
so once they hit T4, they will be naked
gusty kettle
the gems dont go away in T4, u just dont get the damage boost
T4 gems give you more damage to all skills
open spindle
I mean they won't have any gems outside of the event ones
brisk topaz
i do aegir nm on my artist with full 5s, but yeah for dps i dont think you get away with those xd
open spindle
Also, if I wanted to switch to a different region (moving countries next year), can I transfer my account? Or do I have to start over? I don't think I can start from scratch after getting LOS30
gusty kettle
yep, my supports doing aegir with T3 gems and 3 level 5 T4
but my dps is full 6-7 T4
aegir
my main is 7-8 T4
wet dagger
surely the game gives you some free t4 gems when you hit t4...
gusty kettle
nope, only express