#lost-ark-help

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trail hawk
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did you play 2 weeks ago?

foggy vapor
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nope, i came back 4 days ago

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missed the south vern pass lol

trail hawk
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and the mokoko express...

foggy vapor
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yeah... gotta wait for march

graceful stump
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do i really need to do the sidequests ?

heady oar
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Yes for roster lvl you need to reach 160+ asap

fervent mauve
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does game lag affect raid captain?

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debate with friend

timber mauve
timber mauve
willow ice
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do i need to buy relic gear before going to ancient or can i go straight to ancient

graceful stump
coarse vigil
willow ice
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ah tru ty

timber mauve
graceful stump
cyan edge
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Hey, I am a returning player and found some Tier 3 Treasure Maps in my inventory. I remember back when the game was released, these would be quite valuable and people would pay to join you on them. Is this still the case? Should I look for other people to do them or is it fine to do them alone?

timber mauve
coarse vigil
cyan edge
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Thanks for the info! You still get these tradeable shard bags from it which are still worth something, right? They would be helpful for my progression so I will try to find someone to do them with

timber mauve
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The current chaos gate was reworked to be cross server match making and to include ghost ship rewards.

timber mauve
sudden oxide
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guys toad gold event still worth ... or they nerfed it ?

buoyant herald
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its completely changed and nerfedd

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but the stuff it sells is like half the price of market value so its worth

timber mauve
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Only difference is that you can’t buy it on multiple characters cryga

buoyant herald
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and no more engraving boxes tho they wouldnt be worth it anyway 😄

timber mauve
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But I need card exp MadgeClap

sudden oxide
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time to yolo i guess tnx

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that leg elixir worth getting with the currency or skip

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lol game changed so much didnt have time to jump into elixirs yet

proud birch
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returning player want to change race, when i wait march pass meantime what should i do?

iron kestrel
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is pleccia being added to a continent list at somepoint PES_Think

pallid aspen
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Has anyone else been recently dealing with frequent disconnects from the game?

median prairie
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which rewars shoulld i aim for una's tasks

short steeple
short steeple
buoyant herald
iron kestrel
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what should u use ur life energy ?

trail hawk
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on things you need for your stronghold

iron kestrel
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wdym by that heh
i never really bothered with stronghold that much

trail hawk
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well, you should, because you craft things cheaper than market price

buoyant herald
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mainly oreha thingies

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so fishing / hunting

trail hawk
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hunting isntt for orehas*

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its for food

buoyant herald
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sus you can do orehas with it too

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its faster than fishing

trail hawk
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you trolling right

buoyant herald
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might be

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i only do sh farming

timber mauve
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I don’t even do that xdx

trail hawk
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cheapest orehas are excavation OR fishing, depends on day

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never hunting

buoyant herald
iron kestrel
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ic, i havent been playing since clown
4 days ago i was killing mobs for cooking stuff and collected herbs along the way using my life energy
with the 10k life energy i managed to get 4 platinum field tickets and 5 world leafs

Was i just super lucky ?

trail hawk
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bit lucky with plat tickets

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if you dont have many leafs yet, not really

iron kestrel
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got 61 atm

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but cheers for the info hehe

trail hawk
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i spent 7k today, got 1 ticket, 0 leafs

iron kestrel
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clown times i used to excavate in niheltop

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yeah i tested excvating y-day and got only 1
i remember herbing having higher chance getting them tickets ?

trail hawk
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well, herbing costs what, 35 energy?

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on which region you playing btw

iron kestrel
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never really looked those heh

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EU

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west

trail hawk
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there is no west anymore

fading hill
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borza is in my stronghold but doesn't sell legendary overwhelm

trail hawk
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only eu central

fading hill
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and there's no upgrade option in lab

fathom mesa
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does it cost resources to raid?

iron kestrel
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right heh

fading hill
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what is happening?

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borza isn't selling purple focus or orange overwhelm

trail hawk
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one rune, not both at a time

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oh

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boza has 4 runes, green blue purple focus or legend overwhelm

floral saffron
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orehas are hunting/fishing/excavation

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you also technically get the most oreha out of a bar of life energy hunting

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it just takes the most work so no one does it

trail hawk
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ofc it is

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but its the most expnesive ones

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you really want to craft with hunting when you craft almost 98g per oreha when theyre 82g at market

cursive oxide
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Hi, what would be a good stone to aim to cut for pred slayer build?

I've got grudge legendary books maxed out, just trying to decide what two to pick on stone?

trail hawk
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what is +1? adrenaline?

short steeple
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Yes

trail hawk
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so any engraving + adrenaline

cursive oxide
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Yeah

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So I guess I can go class engraving + Adrenaline for the +1

trail hawk
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no, there are no class engravings on stones

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what are other 3 engravings youre using?

lavish groveBOT
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The Ultimate Slayer Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Slayer class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

median prairie
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here should be a island but there is not?

trail hawk
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look at what time

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iirc, alakir is at :50, youre late

median prairie
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entrance is time limited? lol

trail hawk
# lavish grove

so raid captian, ambush master or mass increase + adrenaline

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see which one is cheapest

cursive oxide
median prairie
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next time is 40 minutes later, i hope i wont forget it

trail hawk
cursive oxide
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Adrenaline would be the +1 and predator the class engraving.

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Oh right the cost of books for pred are expensive in NAE but also lacking, so might have to use a combat engraving instead...Unsure will need to check the marketplace again when I'm home.

median prairie
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i got una instant complete ticlet

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how can i use that

trail hawk
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you have to complete a una once, to be able to use it

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so if you havent done alakir before, you cannot use it

median prairie
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oh tanks

oblique mortar
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i purchased 3 of them , how do i claim a bonus?

trail hawk
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..

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you have to purchase 3 in same bracket

oblique mortar
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ohhh lol

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oops

trail hawk
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not 3 from different bracket

oblique mortar
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i see, ty

shadow mesa
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does the fairy on lullaby island quest spawn randomly ? pretty sure i search every place marked mPensive

livid fossil
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@trail hawk why does my engraving for R E not say maxed but it has the maxed amount of engraving on it ?

trail hawk
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you mean you have book 12?

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you need another +3 acc

livid fossil
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so i need to loko for acc with + 3

trail hawk
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yes

fathom mesa
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what does roster level do for you

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just gives your entire roster passive buffs ?

trail hawk
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and some other stuff, like: blue crystals, more life energy...

shy chasm
fathom mesa
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yea i just read on it, seems lame

trail hawk
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Oo

shy chasm
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well you have to care about it

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cuz thats one of the reason ppl gatekeep

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whne you get to that point atleast

fathom mesa
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why cant you just onetrick 1 char why do you need an entire roster

shy chasm
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you can

fathom mesa
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but doesnt your roster level become pretty low

shy chasm
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well ye

timber mauve
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It'll just take more time to get up. Though, horiztonal stuff gives a lot of roster exp compared to dailies and weeklies on multiple characters.

fathom mesa
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honestly reading the comments of lost ark is hilarious

shadow mesa
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how do i upgrade my card catalog ?

shy chasm
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buy blue crystals

trail hawk
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more spots?

shadow mesa
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yeah

trail hawk
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as general said, sell some gold for blue crystals

shadow mesa
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buy blue crystal or buy with blue crystal ?

shy chasm
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scroll to the bottom click expand

shadow mesa
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got it, thanks

eager gate
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someone said i'm already limit gate 4, but this week i just run Gate 1-2(hard) and gate 3(Normal).. why i cant run gate 4?

shy chasm
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you did g4 last week?

eager gate
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yeah, i clear it last week

shy chasm
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its a 2 week lock out

eager gate
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eh

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every 2 weeks? how i check it?

shy chasm
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if you remove that reward screen its written in the center

eager gate
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i see, only brelsazha?

shy chasm
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and extreme valtan

eager gate
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i see, that new for me.. thank for you explain

shadow mesa
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where does the pheons goes if you win the bid ?

shy chasm
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game takes the pheons

cyan edge
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Hey, another question from a returning player here. Back when i started on release, apparently I bought these blue crystals for gold. 3000 of them. Before I regret wasting them later on: What should I spend these on? My char is on iLvl 1430. Would they be wasted if I spend them on my current progression? Is there something else I should spend them on besides the Secret Shop?

trail hawk
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check the bonus room in cash shop

maiden locust
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anyone wanna learning Clown together?

timber mauve
trail hawk
sage duneBOT
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We have lfgroup and lfstatic channels in each of our region categories (requires region role).
You can filter the postings by clicking on content relevant tags or even 'Learning Group'.
#1051258008853807174/#1051276943619792948/#1051285338569580564

Also check out some LFG/Learning dedicated Discords:
Lost Ark LFG (International): https://discord.gg/lostarklfg
Mokoko elp (EU Central): https://discord.gg/mokokoelp
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Lost Ark Mokoko's (NA West): https://discord.gg/lost-mokokos
Mokoko Mentors & Co. (German) https://discord.gg/mokokomentors

maiden locust
trail hawk
maiden locust
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i'm just asking every server

trail hawk
maiden locust
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yeah

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so hard to find group

timber mauve
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But I hear people talk about it all the time, so prolly worth.

short steeple
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Huge profit

trail hawk
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if you check green potions price, which are 1k energy, they go for x5 for 100 bc

shadow mesa
trail hawk
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to craft skins

cyan edge
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Thanks guys! So I guess I just buy all these stuff and use it when I get to the point where I need it?

timber mauve
trail hawk
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with help of the item on right side, yozs jar

shadow mesa
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that shop is a monthly thing ?

trail hawk
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no

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sometimes it comes, but the deals are nowhere good as this time. because its 2nd anniversary

primal delta
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Hello, i have a problem with my LOA not launching.

This problem first appeared around half a year ago. I launch the game through steam, the EAC logo does it's thing, dissappears, and then nothing. The longest i've left the game alone is around 2 hours without anything happening.

I've done all the things on the LOA support site, updated my driver, checked for corrupted files, verified game file integrity, ran the game as administrator and reinstalled the game around 6 times now.

The game also ran perfectly fine before, i used to play around the date of launch 2 years ago when it came to the western servers. Has anyone else expirienced this problem before, and if yes, how did you fix it?

umbral pawn
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  • 5 world tree leaf
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got lucky with the leaves tho

primal delta
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Nope

umbral pawn
trail hawk
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did you check in task manager if the game is loading?

shadow mesa
primal delta
lavish dune
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can you evade vertigo debuff if you dodge in gate 2 inferno valtan?

trail hawk
primal delta
umbral pawn
# shadow mesa what life skill are you doing tho ? and is it at max level

I don't have any life skill max level, the best I have are mining ~50 and fishing ~50 too. I did hunting since I wanted world tree leaves.
If I was doint fishing or excavating, I would get better income, also the 30K gain include 1 platinum ticket I got since 60K life energy has a very high chance to give you at least one ticket.

With fishing ( EUC ), I could have gotten ~42K gold, if you reduce the 7.5K gold to buy the 200BC, that would be 34.5K gold benefit.

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For some player, 35k gold is either nothing or not worth the effort spent on 60k life energy but to me it's a lot

primal delta
lavish dune
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GUYS TELL ME CAN U DODGE VERTIGO

minor briar
trail hawk
lavish dune
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Damn we had a bard and everyone flamed her for no cleanse

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i didn't bother

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but like i knew

trail hawk
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bard cleanse? xdddddd

minor briar
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she cant cleanse vertigo

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or GT it

umbral pawn
primal delta
shadow mesa
trail hawk
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delete the last file updateloader64

primal delta
trail hawk
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now try starting the game

shadow mesa
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i thought the main way to get gold in this game is doing life skill and legion raid

minor briar
primal delta
minor briar
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then selling mats/drops

trail hawk
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just check task manager now, if its actually loading

umbral pawn
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raw gold, not taking account selling mats, bids, etc

trail hawk
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that means having 6*1600 tho

primal delta
steady sail
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does anyone know what chat are the class guides in on the discord

umbral pawn
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you can get x6 1580

timber mauve
trail hawk
shadow mesa
trail hawk
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depends how much they play / pay

shadow mesa
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lets say its your casual dolphin that play 5-6 hours a day

umbral pawn
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the best way to make alt is to use express and other event that happen multiple time a year

karmic ferry
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Im gonna be quitting for awhile and i was gonna sell my gems and invest it into something, suggestions anyone?

shadow mesa
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been enjoying it so far, not sure what other class i want to try as now i'm playing gunlancer

umbral pawn
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we had express + path of soul eather in december/january, that was a free 1580 char

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we'll prolly get something similar in march with breaker release

karmic ferry
trail hawk
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theres no gamba

shadow mesa
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i played earlier this month before that event concluded, got my character to 1500

maiden locust
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i prob make 400k a week but i bus every raid + extras so

umbral pawn
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but it's a game

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you can have fun your own way too

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just don't FOMO

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FOMO bad

shadow mesa
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for now i'm finishing the guide quest

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that need to do 3 other quests

umbral pawn
fathom mesa
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can people buy their way to 1600 ilvl or whatever

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or do you need to buy bus to do that

trail hawk
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didnt you start with aero, and now sorc, just so, btw....

fathom mesa
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im just asking

quasi tree
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You have to raid to progress

trail hawk
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me too

quasi tree
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You can buy busses for that

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No point in over honing

fathom mesa
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how do the express passes increase your ilvl

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like how do they work i g

trail hawk
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express doesnt increase your lvl, it gives you mats, and other stuff

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powerpass increases your ilvl, because it skips story and gives you set items

fathom mesa
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i see

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and you use the mats from express to craft high ilvl gear i assume

timber mauve
umbral pawn
timber mauve
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With free event power passes and new classes, a Hyper Express Event (also named super mokoko express) normally exists as well. You should’ve gotten a large popup window mentioning it, prompting you to select a character to use it on. These express events are made to help you get from x item level to y item level. They won’t give you enough honing materials to reach it alone, but it’ll greatly speed up your journey.

fathom mesa
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i see

trail hawk
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btw, you didnt answer if you switched from aero to sorc...

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because aero is less played, but way more useful for a party than a sorc

umbral pawn
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gear have their progression through honing, dailies, events, mokoko express, etc, will give you what you need to hone your gear to get higher item level and get access to higher content

umbral pawn
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once a certain item level, you have to change to another gear like I said above with relic/ancient/upper ancient

unkempt kraken
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has gunslinger changed in the past 3 months?

shy chasm
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you def wont find it here

shy chasm
unkempt kraken
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just a blanket buff to all skills or any inparticular becuase im very new and im looking for something to work towards etc

shy chasm
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it should be in gs chat pins

unkempt kraken
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ah ty

shadow mesa
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do you get world tree leaf from just doing life skill randomly ?

lapis maple
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i have only 3 channels?

timber mauve
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@fervent mauve @lapis maple Don’t ask or advertise that here as per the rules of this discord and discord tos. Furthermore, deleting messages doesn’t mean we can’t see them.

fervent mauve
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I didn't delete anything

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u trippin on a stack no cap

cyan snow
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guys have any way to renew a effect or the way is just craft the new one?

foggy vapor
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what's the best method/place to excavate for oreha fusion mats?

foggy vapor
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ah so any tier 3 place will do

trail hawk
shy chasm
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other wise ye

cyan snow
foggy vapor
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is it worth it to craft maps? or nah

trail hawk
rose wren
trail hawk
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then what else do you think he meant? you cant change mods of a tool, so how to renew what? tool or what

rose wren
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there picture

trail hawk
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yes, picture of a tool

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and word: renew

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he didnt ask, how could i make better mods

slim beacon
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guys can someone please explain this ?

trail hawk
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what was the name?

slim beacon
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is it something related to one my character name or what ?

trail hawk
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people found your name offensive and reported you

rose wren
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seems to be, was it actually tho? theres some1 who got reported because people hate femboy

trail hawk
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@cyan snow hey, did you want better mods or to know how to repair it?

slim beacon
trail hawk
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whats the name....

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a guy had "openyourlegs"

slim beacon
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i dont even know since no name is illegal or anything

warm tendon
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just tell us the name?

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could still be offensive in some other language

rose wren
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ive seen bunch of people named various diseases

slim beacon
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i have more than that one char wtf

foggy vapor
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what gold do chaos gates provide exactly? i only get very few tradable mats, max 1k gold

unkempt kraken
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did i just find someone levelling like 13 accounts

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there all named like

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quiweyiqwyeiu

warm tendon
unkempt kraken
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wewebwuebu

unkempt kraken
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im riding past the same mage copy pasted lmao

foggy vapor
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so the south vern chaos gate was revamped and no longer gives trasure maps?

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im doing that until i get to 1490

rose wren
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every chaos gate changed

trail hawk
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when you click on it, you go into ilvl bracket that fits you

foggy vapor
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am i supposed to be getting something extra

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cus 1k gold is less than what i used to get from punika for example...

knotty lantern
trail hawk
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normally there are 3 bosses, and a chance of +1

warm tendon
rose wren
foggy vapor
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mm i see

knotty lantern
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i just came back to the game after a longgg hiatus

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and im broke af

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LOL

rose wren
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bot...

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?gold

foggy vapor
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do masterpieces, guaranteed 50k (trust) (real) (will not take you 35 ages)

sage duneBOT
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Gold Sources
You can select up to 6 characters on roster to earn gold from Legion Raids, Abyssal Dungeons, and Abyss Raids.
Sources for earning gold:

  • Weekly: 3 Legion Raids (including Kayangel Abyss Dungeon) per character
  • Weekly: Una Tokens exchange for gold chests
  • Earn more tokens the higher ilvl your highest character on roster is
  • Gain tokens by completing Daily Una Tasks and Weekly Una Tasks
  • Weekly token limit is shared by characters
  • You cannot redo daily una on alts but u can complete different ones to gain tokens
  • Recommended to exchange for 500 token gold chest for chance at 10k gold
  • Adventure Island Gold reward (occurs multiple times per month, gold amount scales with ilvl)
  • Fate Ember random drop from Chaos Dungeons/Guardian Raids has a chance of giving gold
  • Life Skilling
  • Sell tradeable items on Marketplace/Auction House
  • Guild Event/GvG distribution
  • Content Bids
  • Completing Mokoko Shining Harvest Event (Jumpstart Server)
  • Completing Express events
  • Masterpiece Collectibles
knotty lantern
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i did valtan argos getting through unas and dailies

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idk about adventure island

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and no guild because my server dead

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not on jumpstart

rose wren
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jumpstart same as norm

rose wren
sage duneBOT
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We have lfgroup and lfstatic channels in each of our region categories (requires region role).
You can filter the postings by clicking on content relevant tags or even 'Learning Group'.
#1051258008853807174/#1051276943619792948/#1051285338569580564

Also check out some LFG/Learning dedicated Discords:
Lost Ark LFG (International): https://discord.gg/lostarklfg
Mokoko elp (EU Central): https://discord.gg/mokokoelp
Loot Heroes (NA East): https://discord.gg/nae-lootheroes
Lost Ark Mokoko's (NA West): https://discord.gg/lost-mokokos
Mokoko Mentors & Co. (German) https://discord.gg/mokokomentors

knotty lantern
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yea im a part of those but nobody does vykas normal LOL

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i waited three hours yesterday to get griefed by what i consider a bot

rose wren
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u can hone pass vykas normal

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only gold cost is in mats until lv1490

knotty lantern
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would you judge me if said im gated by oreha fusion mats LOL

rose wren
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lifeskill→crafting or buy from market

knotty lantern
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ye that is what im doing now but those 10% honing i been on pity for every piece till now DESPAIR

rose wren
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using event honing books too?

neat swift
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What changes from epic elixirs to legendary ones?

quasi tree
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More turns and up to level 5 per line

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And obviously 5 catalysts per tap and higher gold cost

noble rapids
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i just started doing sea bounties, how insanely gated are these maps to get wtf

bold geyser
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only unnaturally

hardy sphinx
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when is the engraving support ending

rose wren
hardy sphinx
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o

dark vigil
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it takes a while to get to the wealth rune if that's what you're aiming for

unkempt kraken
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WHAT IS THIS SALT GIANT XD

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it has 23 health bars

noble rapids
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@dark vigil yeah I had like 10 maps in my storage so i figured it start doing them to get 2nd wealth rune but fuck me dude it is insane

bold geyser
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welcome to world bosses 🙂

timber mauve
unkempt kraken
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okay yeah good lmoa

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actually would take an hour and all my health pots

trail hawk
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he doesnt have that many mech

bold geyser
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back in the day people would group up to kill it but you'd be hard pressed to find people these days

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so just go back later and whump him 🙂

trail hawk
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but at that lvl you do so little dmg, so yeah, itll take you a long time

unkempt kraken
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yeah

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it has like crazy DR too

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a skill on my sniper does like 3k dmg but he takes 400

bold geyser
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only for the first 15s of the fight or so

unkempt kraken
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ah

bold geyser
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(unless you're way underleveled)

unkempt kraken
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might try a bit later

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i have completed all sidequests so far

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im higher than it and im still struggling xd

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is it any worth killing it now or?

bold geyser
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just a warning, completing all side quests means you're gonna hit 50 before you're able to actually graduate

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no no, just go back later

unkempt kraken
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aight

timber mauve
bold geyser
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arguably a waste of time, but if you're enjoying yourself don't sweat it too much

timber mauve
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It’s a waste of time

dark vigil
unkempt kraken
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alright tyty

cyan edge
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I don't know too much about the economy. Should I buy these?

rose wren
waxen island
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Sorry if I hijack Ben1 questions,but if someone is looking to main swap with new new event next month can I stock pile frog chest and birthday bash materials and open them up when the next patch drop?

rose wren
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ull never interrupted anything hereKEKDog

waxen island
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Noice

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Thanks

cyan edge
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So, during progression, I will get to a point where I buy honing mats from the market anyway? So if market price is higher than the 300g for the chests, I should buy? I understand correctly?

marble shell
bold geyser
noble rapids
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is there a way to grind XP ?

bold geyser
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for example, i'm wayyyyy behind on doing akkan w/ my char, but i keep doing daily crap, so i have 1.5 million shards and no need at all for buying more

rose wren
#

u dont have to buy from market, its optional

rose wren
noble rapids
#

nah i need 10m xp on my main to finally hit 60

bold geyser
#

does tower give xp?i know it gives lots of roster

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can try that (no promises)

cyan edge
#

Ah, I understand. Thank you guys for the explanations

marble shell
noble rapids
#

ill try it @bold geyser

lilac raft
#

When is smilegate going to fix the wallpaper audio bug for using KR voiceover pack

rose wren
lilac raft
rose wren
#

o i mean like in there discord

#

?support

sage duneBOT
lilac raft
#

cool thanks

paper walrus
#

what does cm even stand for here

#

comm mod?

rose wren
#

community manager

timber mauve
shadow mesa
#

should i keep stone like this ? or should i get one with odd number and less than 5 negative

bold geyser
#

doesn't have to be odd, you just want some number that can be cleanly matched with accessories (3s, and 3-6), 8 doesn't really match cleanly with anything

turbid reef
#

guys do you know how to get monarch of the north title

bold geyser
#

and you definitely want to avoid getting 5 malus

bold geyser
hollow belfry
#

is there a channel for accessories?

turbid reef
hollow belfry
#

to look for accessories

paper walrus
#

no

rose wren
shadow mesa
bold geyser
paper walrus
#

8 means you'd get some pips left over when you hit 15

shadow mesa
#

so how do you pair stones and accesorry in term of engraving ?

bold geyser
#

there's a good chart in the pins

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and you use an engraving calculator to try to line everything up

rose wren
shadow mesa
#

this right ? what does the book represent ?

bold geyser
#

oo i didn't know about that

bold geyser
stray goblet
shadow mesa
#

the two bellow your weapon ?

bold geyser
#

yeah

stray goblet
#

yes sir

rose wren
#

training area or so on game, give u tutorial through those slots there

shadow mesa
#

i still have engraving support for two more months , just that i got a nice stone

cyan edge
stray goblet
#

dont buy anything

#

get gold

shadow mesa
#

so if its like this i would get +9 node if i were to equip it bellow my weapon ?

bold geyser
#

and you're at 0/20, so you would need 20 legendary supercharge books to upgrade

cyan edge
stray goblet
#

it gives 2 selectors for 30k gold so its giga worth it

#

but if you have no gold

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big no no dont buy

cyan edge
#

This Leap Legendary Card selection pack?

bold geyser
#

how do you get the selectors? isn't it random chance when you get coins?

#

ohhh you always get them with the lucky chest

cyan edge
#

I got one of them from the 3 chests that I bought. So guess I got lucky? :D
But thanks for your advice. I will save my gold then unless I reach a point where I can afford it during the next month :)

stray goblet
trail hawk
stray goblet
#

15 of them for 1 selectorinoae

meager trellis
#

is there anything that increases life energy cap or regen

trail hawk
#

roster lvls

bold geyser
#

crystalline aura

trail hawk
#

and as soc said

meager trellis
#

I see

#

and where can I get those regen bottles

trail hawk
#

shop

stray goblet
trail hawk
#

atm you have an amazing deal for 20*3k potions for 200 blue crystals

hollow belfry
meager trellis
#

ok thanks

paper walrus
#

crushing fist 6 drops of shit 3

#

swift

bold geyser
#

good luck 👍

worldly slate
#

Can I claim 2nd anniversary event with different alts? For example my alt wants brel rewards but my main want akkan and up rewards?

dark vigil
#

yes

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but you won't be able to give them to another char, since they are char bound

worldly slate
#

Ok thanks!

hardy sphinx
#

does dmg gem or level of skill affect the stagger rate of the skills?

nocturne moss
#

does the lvl 40 Critical elixir is additive with the lvl 35? +18 dmg on crit total?

frosty axle
#

What's a good location for hunting?

rose wren
frosty axle
split forge
#

Can you not complete elgacia adventure tome to 100%?

frosty axle
#

Why wouldn't you be able to

split forge
#

Everything is ticked it only goes to 93%

shy chasm
#

done kayangel?

split forge
#

Yup

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Both

shy chasm
#

ss?

split forge
#

Nm Hm

exotic anvil
#

also kayangel is not the elgacia dungeon that u see in the adv tome...kayangel is the weekly raid, the adv tome one is the one u enter through the gate in elgacia

warm tendon
#

you're missing something for sure

exotic anvil
#

yeh just post a screenshot...ez fix

rich agate
#

anyone know if hit master works on skills that are classified as back attack if you don't land them as a back attack? or it only works on skills with no classification

(not planning to build hit master on a back attacker, moreso wondering how much value hit master pieces have in artist/bard chaos build)

rich agate
#

okay, thank you

rose wren
#

i think its unlikely to be coded/design that way

rich agate
#

my bard got a 3 preemptive/6 hit master necklace drop so i was wondering if it would be worth activating hit master books but i guess not

exotic anvil
shut pasture
rich agate
rich agate
shut pasture
rich agate
#

wouldn't need them, 6+9=15

shut pasture
#

Ah I thought you meant to max the books, gotcha

rich agate
#

nah would just be flipping a switch for 0g but if it doesn't work no point

shut pasture
#

In either case, the short of it is it doesn't really do anything for you in Chaos Dungeons anyway

rose wren
#

there arent many chances to maintain backattack in chaos dung anyway

shut pasture
#

And if you're running Preemptive the mobs are already insta dying regardless of position

exotic anvil
rose wren
#

only minmax would spend on chaos dung set

exotic anvil
rich agate
midnight nimbus
#

Most of my classes use their normal dps build, but change out the grudge book for preemptive book. Maybe change out an accessory for preemptive3

Supports are a little different tho

exotic anvil
rose wren
#

or the other set that boost dmg after awakening

shut pasture
rich agate
fallow sorrel
#

heyy I just started the game 2 days ago, and I wanted to ask if it’s still possible to change the hair color of my bard? crykat

rich agate
#

you'd need a reskin ticket for 800 royal crystals

shut pasture
fallow sorrel
#

where can I find that?

rich agate
#

they occasionally have free reskin tickets in events but they're rare

#

it's in the shop

shut pasture
shut pasture
rich agate
#

for future reference you can also reskin a character that was made within the last 24 hours for free

fallow sorrel
#

what’s the category?

rich agate
#

as many times as you want until the 24 hours are up

#

probably features, i'm not logged in rn to check

fallow sorrel
#

I found it

shut pasture
fallow sorrel
#

thank you pixelbearlove

rich agate
#

i made an account on day 1, promptly quit the game, and came back pretty recently, had 2 reskin tickets in my product inventory but when i wanted to actually use them i found out they had expired like 6 months ago lmao

fallow sorrel
#

why are they expensive

#

10€ stitch

rich agate
#

people are willing to pay it

exotic anvil
rich agate
#

may have already powerpassed it

fallow sorrel
#

yea I came too far, I mean I’m only lvl 19 but that’s far for me already I don’t wanna do it all again xd

exotic anvil
unkempt kraken
#

Wait I'm looking at the new player guides and what ti's a jump start severr?

rose wren
#

there should be 3reskin tickets in product inventory, if u never taken 'em

unkempt kraken
#

Server

rose wren
#

jumpstart r norm, events r over

unkempt kraken
#

Oh so doesn't exist anymore alright xd

rich agate
fallow sorrel
shut pasture
unkempt kraken
rich agate
#

i don't think so, there was one very recently

exotic anvil
rose wren
rich agate
#

they just reconnected the jumpstart servers to the main servers like 1-2 months ago, i don't remember exactly

fallow sorrel
rich agate
#

people still gatekeeping jumpstart server players

unkempt kraken
#

Becuase earlier when I asked about starting now bieng a good idea I was told to wait till March dunno what exactly but apparently good events

rich agate
#

there is an event in march that'll help a lot but it's not jumpstart

rose wren
maiden locust
#

Hello anyone knows how i get gold by excavating ?

exotic anvil
fallow sorrel
rich agate
#

it's mokoko express, gives you a free powerpass to ilvl 1460(?) and skips most of the main story for you

shut pasture
# unkempt kraken Is that's what is gonan run in march?

No, in March what we will be getting are the standard progression events we usually get with a new class release; Super Mokokok Express and most likely the Path of the Breaker, similar to the Path of the Souleater we got in Novemeber with that class release.

rich agate
unkempt kraken
rich agate
#

not necessarily

fallow sorrel
rose wren
#

no, u get to learn and wont be overwhelm with info

rich agate
#

you could work on your current character now and have it as an alt character when the event starts

unkempt kraken
#

Ohhh i see

rich agate
#

the game heavily incentivizes playing multiple characters

unkempt kraken
#

Yeah I've heard

rich agate
unkempt kraken
#

So I get 1 power pass to just use on a character

#

But only 1

rose wren
shut pasture
# fallow sorrel are events doable as low lvl?

The progression events we are talking about have ilvl requirements to be able to start them, but if you're talking about combat level you will be level 50 sooner rather than later if you're not already. The ilvls that the events require aren't all that high either, and they are usually the ilvl that the free Power Pass simply gives you.

fallow sorrel
rich agate
#

yeah plus events to help it progress past 1460 faster than normal

rich agate
fallow sorrel
#

ohhh

rich agate
#

you can also buy a regular powerpass at any time but they are quite expensive and you won't get the progression event

unkempt kraken
#

Would I be able to get to 1460 within 1 week?

#

Or is that a big thinf

fallow sorrel
#

but there isn’t one for the event now right?

rose wren
fallow sorrel
#

I’m so confused that I’m just gonna come back for the next event and ask again crykat

rich agate
shut pasture
rich agate
#

or if you have friends that can fund you mats maybe lol

shut pasture
fallow sorrel
unkempt kraken
shut pasture
#

This currently running event is for Lost Arks release anniversary

rich agate
#

you'd have to grind through the story first and i think that would get you to level 50+

fallow sorrel
shut pasture
#

Since Lost Ark release in February 2022, so we're two years into the games release.

rich agate
#

if you have a friend that can give you some gold you can speedrun tier 2 honing

rose wren
unkempt kraken
#

Nope pretty much solo xd

shut pasture
fallow sorrel
rich agate
rich agate
shut pasture
unkempt kraken
#

Alright well guess I'm gonna just power level my gunslinger from 20 to as high as I can get it do you think that I'd make more progress than the power pass by march?

fallow sorrel
#

wait I have a question

unkempt kraken
#

Becuass if not I'll play artist and then use power pass on gunsling

fallow sorrel
#

is it worth to use this thing as beginner? on a low lvl character?

#

or is it something I need to save for late game?

rich agate
shut pasture
# fallow sorrel yes side quests as well

You don't need to do Side Quests at all, simply stick with the Main Story Quests mainquest that eventually transition into World Quests worldquest and that will bring you to level 50. Side Quests are not necessary.

rich agate
#

of course if you are having fun with the side quests feel free to keep doing them

fallow sorrel
rose wren
#

some side quests can be completed with main quests, i never remember which 1🫠 as in its in the same location or so, so u arent far away

unkempt kraken
shut pasture
# fallow sorrel

That is the optional premium subscription the game has, it can be quite useful and you don't necessarily need to spend money on it at all. You can add time for it later by converting your gold into Blue Crystals.

fallow sorrel
rich agate
shy chasm
unkempt kraken
#

Aight ty so much ^^

fallow sorrel
#

oh

autumn warren
#

how do I find the shipwrecks now for sea bounties ?

fallow sorrel
#

so I should save it up?

rich agate
#

but also, games are meant to be played for fun, so if you want to play your main now don't let minmaxing stop you from playing your main

shy chasm
#

ye no reason to use it rn

fallow sorrel
#

okay thanks!

rose wren
rich agate
#

you'll still be able to use the event on your main as long as you don't pass 1540 by march i believe (need confirmation)

#

if you naturally got your main to 1415 or whatever the minimum is for the event you could just powerpass an alt while still using the event on main

rose wren
#

there's no exact info which ilvl it be, u can hint at it to not go pass

rich agate
#

the max ilvl will probably still be 1540 for mokoko express i'd imagine

#

dunno if minimum will still be 1415 or raised to 1460 now since they're raising the powerpass

shy chasm
#

it will surely be 1580 prayge

rich agate
#

can't really predict these things unfortunately

#

lol i hope it's 1580

unkempt kraken
rose wren
#

its simple to not confuse people by not mentioning # until the info out

rich agate
#

yeah, as long as you can reach the minimum ilvl for the event naturally on your gunslinger

midnight nimbus
#

I got conflicting answers last time I asked. Were we able to use Path of Souleater on a 1540?

rich agate
#

yes

#

you can use path on a 1609

shut pasture
loud dagger
#

Anyone can tell me if nm ex valtan has same rewards as hm?

rich agate
#

no

loud dagger
#

Whats the dff

midnight nimbus
#

So it's fairly safe to say we'll be able to use Path of Breaker on a 1540 at the very least

rich agate
bold geyser
#

nothing is safe 😩

shy chasm
#

ye surely the path with be 1610 Susge

#

or atleast 1600

unkempt kraken
#

Qhats the stuff on the right?

bold geyser
#

keep it up and it's gonna be 1325

rich agate
#

engravings, don't worry about them yet if you are pre lvl 50

#

they will be very important later but pace yourself

rose wren
unkempt kraken
#

Oh is it like what your build is focused around?

rose wren
#

yes

bold geyser
#

pretty much

unkempt kraken
#

So like for example one of them for gunslinger is called like time to hunt

#

I think

bold geyser
#

yeah

#

some builds are weird and use both

lavish groveBOT
#
The Ultimate Gunslinger Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Gunslinger class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

unkempt kraken
#

I see I see thank you

rich agate
#

yeah it's customizable enhancements to your character

bold geyser
#

but not anything to worry about atm

unkempt kraken
#

Yeah I'm staying away from time to hunt 💀 I love me my shotguns

rich agate
#

most engravings are common between classes but each class has 2 exclusive class engravings as well

unkempt kraken
#

I think I have 5 chests for the crafting of them

#

Legendary engraving chest

#

Or soemthing

bold geyser
#

hang onto those

unkempt kraken
#

And it gives me the "blueprint" to make them

bold geyser
#

really anything that has you choose anything should be saved until much later

unkempt kraken
#

Yeah I think I need level 50 to pop em anyway

#

Is level 50 max?

bold geyser
#

60

#

but 50+ is required for endgame anything

unkempt kraken
#

I heard you can promote too

#

Or soemthjng

rich agate
#

no, it's just 1-60

#

maybe you heard of roster level?

bold geyser
#

advanced classes are not really a thing anymore they make you pick one when you make the char

trail hawk
#

there is no 1

unkempt kraken
#

Ah might have been

trail hawk
#

you start at 10

rich agate
#

you're technically level 1 in trixion for like 1 minute

#

LOL

unkempt kraken
#

💀

bold geyser
#

enjoy your youth while it lasts

rich agate
#

you don't hit lvl 10 until you start the class tester with beatrice

#

maybe it's more accurate to say 1,10-60

trail hawk
#

yeah, but you dont gain any skills during 1-10, so

#

it starts at 10

rich agate
#

roster level is a separate system with separate experience that applies to all characters in your account

rose wren
#

nowadays u reach lv50 before finish vern story, theres still some pieces to learn after lv50 in general on how the game functions

fallen linden
#

how do i get oreha fusion stones

rich agate
#

grants some small stat bonuses/milestone rewards but mostly is used by others to see how experienced you are with the game

rose wren
bold geyser
fallen linden
#

is it hard to craft?

#

I am kinda new so i dont really have gold

bold geyser
#

easy to craft, somewhat expensive

rich agate
#

it costs a decent amount of gold to craft

fallen linden
#

So im fucked

#

Lmao

bold geyser
#

depending on your server it's better to just buy from the market

#

it fluctuates

fallen linden
#

Hmm let me see prices

#

16 a piece

bold geyser
#

there should be a market spreadsheet in the pins

fallen linden
#

is that alot

rich agate
#

doing life skills yourself and then just paying the crafting cost is the cheapest way to get them if you have really low gold

bold geyser
#

🤷

rich agate
#

if you have to also buy the materials before crafting it tends to be more expensive than just buying from market

#

crafting cost of prime orehas is less than half of market price, not sure what it is for regular orehas

exotic anvil
#

always better to craft cause u have random bonuses chances to get more materials...but usually the cost is close either u buy or craft (crafting requires gatherables mats that u can farm, even if in a limited quantity)

bold geyser
rose wren
#

just have to see what ya market at

bold geyser
#

yeah the market is mature enough that there's no way to ballpark it

#

just have to see for yourself

rich agate
#

newer player shouldn't need so many orehas that it hurts too much to do the life skills for them

rose wren
#

also if u dont wanna like give gold to players, just craftKEKDog

exotic anvil
rich agate
#

i think we're using different definitions of new here

unkempt kraken
#

So after reading through class selection guide and looking at gunslinger I assume it's recommended heavily that I build for time to hunt eventually becuase it is very low investment compared to peacemaker then switch to peacemaker later down the line

rich agate
#

presumably if they've gotten to 1620 they don't need to ask how to get orehas

bold geyser
heady hollow
bold geyser
#

you can switch down the line if you need to rebuild your set

heady hollow
#

the investment is negligible

unkempt kraken
#

Plus it's not my first mmo so some of the game mechanics are pretty similar

rose wren
heady hollow
#

youd ultimately be "wasting" resources going from one build to the other kinda GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

unkempt kraken
#

Yeah I would hate to remove shotguns from slinger my only reason was the peacemaker one said its recommended to have like knowledge of dungeons

rich agate
unkempt kraken
heady hollow
#

as a resident gs main, i could never imagine playing tth, the whole draw for me was switching guns

exotic anvil
heady hollow
#

and taking one out just kills alot of the fun

unkempt kraken
#

But overall just better to stick to one?

heady hollow
heady hollow
rich agate
#

only relic and ancient accessories will be kept, so no worries about what you do before then

unkempt kraken
#

Are the augments hard to get considering u was told to hang on to the chests for them

#

?

heady hollow
#

what are augments

unkempt kraken
#

I mean

#

Uh

rich agate
#

engravings

unkempt kraken
#

Yeah

rich agate
#

it kinda depends

unkempt kraken
#

💀

heady hollow
#

for seasoned players, no not at all

#

for newer players, kinda

fallen linden
#

the game is sooo confusinngggg

#

im so lost

#

😭

rich agate
#

we have these terms like 5x3, 5x3+1, 4x3+2+2

heady hollow
#

if they exhaust their chest supply on stupid choices

rose wren
rich agate
#

so like this, how many lvl 3 engravings and how many lvl 2/1 engravings you have in your build

unkempt kraken
#

Are all those blue gems copies ?

rich agate
#

different qualities of accessories have different caps on how many engraving nodes they can hold

heady hollow
exotic anvil
unkempt kraken
#

Like you get 2 and mash it together to make 1 better one

rich agate
#

so the difficulty of getting those engravings depends on your target build (5x3, 5x3+1, 5x3+2, etc.) and what accessories are available to you

rich agate
trail hawk
#

hes like lvl20 and youre talking about very advanced stuff 😉

rich agate
#

so for example, once you hit 1415 you get access to relic accessories that can have up to 5 nodes on one engraving

unkempt kraken
#

Yeha I wanna know though I'll catch on xd

rich agate
#

and 3 on another engraving

#

so you choose your accessories in a way that they sum up to your desired build

#

example accessories that sum up to that example 4x3+2+2

stray goblet
#

spirit absorp OMEGALUL

#

dont run that shit

rich agate
#

that's also why i was saying only relic+ accessories will be kept, legendary accessories can only have up to 3/3 nodes so it is quite hard to get them to sum up to what you want

heady hollow
#

thats literally what u run on artist

#

you dont need to anymore technically but still

rose wren
rich agate
stray goblet
heady hollow
#

but with the new artist buffs and changes, its not that important

unkempt kraken
rich agate
#

i just run 5x3 on my artist, i had this example laying around cause i was just seeing what it would take if i wanted to run it lol

shut pasture
rich agate
#

so if you wanted a lvl 3 (15 nodes) engraving in hit master you could get 2 accessories with hit master +6 and 1 accessory with hit master +3

unkempt kraken
rich agate
#

or 3 accessories with hit master +5

#

or an ability stone with hit master +7, 1 accessory with hit master +5, and 1 accessory with hit master +3

#

as long as it adds up to 15

unkempt kraken
#

Ahhhhhh I see

shut pasture
unkempt kraken
#

And every 5 is one level?

shut pasture
#

So as you can imagine, a single Accessory being, for instance, Hit Master +5/ Adrenaline +3 would mean you get Level 1 Hit Master from that single Accessory.

unkempt kraken
#

So I assume those levels are just increasing the bonuses from the engravings for example if I were to use GS tike to hunt it would give more of the bonuses to my sniper and dual pistol?

rich agate
#

tier 2 (500-1100 ilvl) accessories give a maximum of 2 nodes in a single engraving, so you can imagine it's impossible to build a 5x3 with them

heady oar
#

does elgacia pass provide brel gear ?

shut pasture
rich agate
#

early tier 3 (1250-1415 ilvl) accessories give a maximum of 3 nodes each in two different engravings, so you can build like 4x3 with them but not 5x3

#

tier 3 relic (1415-1540) accessories give a maximum of 5 nodes in one engraving and 3 nodes in another, so that opens up 5x3

then you have tier 3 ancient (1540+ accessories) that cap at 6/3, which opens up more advanced builds

unkempt kraken
rich agate
#

yes

#

or 4 level 3s and 2 level 2s

unkempt kraken
#

Gotcha gotcha

unkempt kraken
paper walrus
#

accesories

rich agate
#

i believe 4x3+2+1 is a common setup for peacemaker GS too, with level 1 on peacemaker

paper walrus
#

4x3+2+1 is outdated

#

still possible but not bis

rich agate
#

i see

shut pasture
#

Yeah thats way outdated

rich agate
#

yup you have 5 accessory slots that will roll random combat stats and random engravings

#

plus ability stone slot

paper walrus
#

and book

rich agate
#

so you need to make sure to get accessories with the correct combat stats for your class that also have random engravings that add up to what you want for your build

#

and also try to avoid stacking up red engravings to 5 nodes

lavish groveBOT
#
The Ultimate Gunslinger Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Gunslinger class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

unkempt kraken
#

Oh wait no

rich agate
#

no, the ability stone is a different system where you roll engravings on it with rng enhancements

shut pasture
rich agate
#

and then you have the engraving books where you can add up to 2 +12s to your build

unkempt kraken
rich agate
#

those are the books from the engraving chests you mentioned

unkempt kraken
unkempt kraken
rich agate
#

depends

paper walrus
#

choose

shut pasture
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Normally you're running your Class Engraving + One combat engraving that would fit your build

rich agate
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well you choose your books but the obtain methods can be rng drops, buying, or using selector chests

paper walrus
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you have to level the books though

rich agate
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it starts off at +3, 20 blue books gets it to +6, 20 purple books gets it to +9, and then 20 legendary books gets it to +12

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normally you just go buy them with gold on the auction house

unkempt kraken
rich agate
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some events will give selector chests that help you build them faster

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they meant just from the books

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you have 2 slots on your character profile for the engraving books

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that's why you only see 2 +12s

unkempt kraken
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OH I SEE okay

shut pasture
unkempt kraken
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So generally the hardest pieces to get are gonna be the 5 acessories

rich agate
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the rest of your build must be filled in with accessories and ability stones

paper walrus
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generally the hardest part is getting a good stone

rich agate
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it depends, if you are going for 5x3+2 the stone would be the harder part

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if you are going for 5x3 the stone is pretty easy

unkempt kraken
rich agate
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yes

unkempt kraken
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This is all very interesting and a lot better than some other mmos I have played xd

shut pasture
rich agate
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common strategy is to get a 3/5 or 3/6 accessory where the 3 is your class engraving, then combine that with a +12 book

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and the 5/6 is something else your character wants

unkempt kraken
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I see I see

rose wren
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It's also a lot more deep and more fine tuned it seems to where your focusing specific things other games in the genre I have played generally just make the average smack 2 prices of gear together until you get Better one

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Beyond much like a jigsaw puzzle

rich agate
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then common combinations for the engravings that you're not using books on but your ability stone has would be 3+5+7 (stone), 3+4+8 (stone), 3+6+6 (stone), etc

then for the engravings where you're not using books or stone it would usually be 5+5+5 or 3+6+6

unkempt kraken
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ability stone has 2 engravings that can be 0-10 depending on your luck when enhancing them, common goals are 6/6, 6/7, 6/8 for 5x3, 7/7 for 5x3+1, 9/7 or 10/6 for 5x3+2

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the more you're trying to optimize your build the less flexible it gets

unkempt kraken
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Yeah

rose wren
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ability stone doesnt have class engraving

unkempt kraken
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So the highest you can get is what 5 x 3 +2+2?

rich agate
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no, 5x3+2

unkempt kraken
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Alright good to know

rich agate
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5x3+2 is extremely difficult and very few players have it

shut pasture
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Also not necessary

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Really only need 5x3

rich agate
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most endgame players just use 5x3+1

unkempt kraken
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Even 5x3+1 isn't necessary, its just attainable if they want it

rich agate
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5x3 tends to be good enough on alts

rose wren
rich agate
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on supports you can often get away with 4x3

unkempt kraken
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Ty both so much ^^

rich agate
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supports are good alts to have for new players cause you don't need to invest as much into them and you'll have an easier time getting accepted into parties

unkempt kraken
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Well all 4 of you xd

vast oriole
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theres a support abundance in low content

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they wont take a shit support

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msot of the time

unkempt kraken
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So they are stuck in lower levels?

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Riperoonies

vast oriole
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just gear it correctly and people accept

rich agate
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I saw a pally in hakkan with lvl 3-4 gems the other day 👀

vast oriole
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not like 5x3 is expensive

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iw said low level content

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theres supp shortage 1580+

rich agate
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yeah

vast oriole
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and people are stupid
im sorry
but taking a shitt geared support doesnt help you

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thats why lot of supports are so entitled

unkempt kraken
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So I assume when people use 6 characters most people use 6 dps if there's a supp shortage?

rich agate
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even sonavel starting to have support surplus

robust marlin
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Using maxroll honing calculator - I assume if the book is in green then its worth spending the gold on the book to use for honing?

unkempt kraken
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I mean there's only 3 in the game righ?

paper walrus
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3 supports

rich agate
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some people just don't enjoy playing support

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so they'll just make 6 dps

paper walrus
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if you have optimal mats checked

rich agate
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Like ever.

unkempt kraken
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Yeah I've just heard it's optimal for daily gold income right?

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Or something

robust marlin
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ruby sinew
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Hi I recently started lost ark, and after North Vern I got a Power Pass. Is North Vern the only place where I can get one or do I get one later in south vern or Punika?

unkempt kraken
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Oh lmao nvm then 💀

shut pasture
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It is the exact opposite of optimal

rich agate
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yes, 6 characters is optimal for gold income, but games are for fun so play however you find it fun

paper walrus
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alts will never pay you back

unkempt kraken
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Kinda crazy

rose wren
unkempt kraken
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But that's very good

shut pasture
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The higher you push alts, which is what those people tend to do, means they are putting themselves at a higher and higher gold deficit per alt

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And take more away from your main

rich agate
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well alts will drain gold if you keep pushing them but if you park them after a certain ilvl and do raids on them you'll hit return on investment

unkempt kraken
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Ah alr that's good to know

shut pasture
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Because people forget that they are spending gold not only to hone to 1540, then 1580, but also on gems and on 5x3

rich agate
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I have my main at 1610 with most of my alts parked at 1550-ish

shut pasture
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So with the investment means those alts have to essentially pay themselves off before you're technically seeing profit

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You can effectively play one main and be fine