#lost-ark-help

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rose jewel
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thank god i put the giant letters

whole current
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@rose wren ty

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i usually dont check pins tbh]

gaunt condor
rose jewel
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you should

bronze marlin
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ok so grind my ass off to hone everything once, the boosts are huge

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but its also 45% chance for no reason

rose jewel
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45 is heaven

rigid plank
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you'd be glad to get 10% later on KEKMask

bronze marlin
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:D

heady hollow
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45% FeelsStrongMan

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What a time

bronze marlin
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does entering without aura of resonance mean i will get less materials?

rose jewel
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you get no mats

heady hollow
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You get no mats

rose wren
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jinx

bronze marlin
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oh what

rose jewel
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you get a new currency which you can trade for mats, but at an stupidly horrid abysmal rate

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tldr; dont

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twice and yeet

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and wait for daily reset

gaunt condor
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Is the frog shop worth the gamble?

rose jewel
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is it worth to buy 100 lottery tickets to see if i win big?

timber mauve
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Gambling is always worth since it isn’t gambling if you win.

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Trust

gaunt condor
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😏

timber mauve
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But really, shards are worth if you’re gonna buy them anyways

rose jewel
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key word

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if you were to buy them from market

timber mauve
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Or if you really want the select pack, it’s worth if you’re gonna buy them anyways since it’s only 25k or so through frog.

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And normally I see them go for 30k or more.

bronze marlin
fallow trail
bronze marlin
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but they're the only fun thing

fallow trail
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ok then, in that case just make alts

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and do chaos dungeons on them

bronze marlin
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i got a north vern pass i think

rose wren
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every1 get those

bronze marlin
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north vern?

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isnt the free one south vern

rose wren
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north vern ingame questline complete to gain

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southvern is a event

bronze marlin
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time to make me an aeromancer

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looks fun

lavish groveBOT
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The Ultimate Shadowhunter Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Shadowhunter class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

elder anchor
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is it better to get 1590 across the board and then hone akkan gear or get akkan asap?

rose jewel
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that is a disgusting amount of wasted mats for literally no reason

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where did you get the idea of 1590 pre akkan

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+25weapon or something?

tawny locust
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how many phantom intentions do you get for brel 1-6 clear with all extra rewards without buying boxes?

rose jewel
fallow trail
tawny locust
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normal

rose jewel
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i mean

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both answers are on pinned message

fallow trail
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iirc it's 16 for normal

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but yeah, check pinned

maiden locust
# rose jewel <:checkpins:911767295829893130>

do you happen to know if phantom intentions we get from loot auction chest are always 5? or do they increase the higher the gate? that document in pins doesn't say it so that's why i'm asking if u happen to know

rose jewel
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auction is always 5

maiden locust
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alright ty

lavish groveBOT
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The Ultimate Sorceress Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Sorceress class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

high stone
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Do I reroll weapon power or is it good?

elder anchor
rose jewel
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bound = convert

rose jewel
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any damage increase is good

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you can gamba for any lottery roll, but you can also play it safe and get something decent

maiden locust
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is it recommended to also buy epic rapport from wandering merchants or is only legendary worth it?

rose wren
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up to u

maiden locust
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i don't really know honestly

rose jewel
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need and have silver? maybe buy

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dont need? dont buy

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need but no silver? dont buy

maiden locust
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now that you put it that way, i feel like a monkey

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i was just thinking that maybe legendary has a better rate of rapport points per silver

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but ty

rose jewel
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legendary costs what, 80k?

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gives static 2k

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liked purple gives 450, costs 10k

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450 x 8

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nearly double

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but you can only usually buy 1 legendary and 2~ epic

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2k vs 900 per purchase

maiden locust
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yeah sounds like i should be buying them

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thank you

elder anchor
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anyone got a link to a plat field guide?

radiant flame
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Youtube search works wonders

lavish groveBOT
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The Ultimate Slayer Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Slayer class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

tawdry quarry
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Any idea how long mokoko express takes if i'm playing maybe 2-3 hours a day?

timber mauve
tawdry quarry
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it says mokoko express....

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doesn't say story express or anything else

timber mauve
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Some people confuse the super mokoko shit with the story express.

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Anyways, you really can’t quantify how long it’ll take in hours.

lone jetty
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hi everyone , my game lately Drop FPS like crazy all the time fighing or in any city
i never had this problem before normally play it in very high setting now when i use auto settings it lower it to medium 🙂 but with the same FPS DROP problem nothing fixed and its the only game that have this problem i play another games
have no problem with this crazy drobs
my pc specs
GTX 1650 Super
Ryzen 5 3400g
16 giga ram
SSD cant remember what model

timber mauve
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It’s method of completion is gear progression. So it’s really about getting lucky with gear hones.

tawdry quarry
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gotchya, ty

keen mason
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also depend on how long it takes you do to brelshaza on your mokoko express char

timber mauve
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And also getting your ancient Brel gear set which takes some weeks to get all crafting materials.

timber mauve
rose jewel
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sometimes the latest GPU updates fucks up really hard with lost ark

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you can either downgrade gpu drivers or check if theres a new one

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video drivers*

lone jetty
lone jetty
lavish groveBOT
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The Ultimate Soulfist Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Soulfist class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

elder anchor
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can you stop life skill bar from popping up while mining and foraging?

radiant flame
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?

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You are using a life skill

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So no

elder anchor
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but all im pressing is g

radiant flame
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Yes, and you're using a life skill

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It's honestly not a huge problem

elder anchor
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figured it out

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theres an option

radiant flame
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Nice!

rose wren
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o there's an option... anyway its hardly a bother

tacit snow
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there is an option to disable interaction roulette

rose wren
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when did they change eurus flower boat that u can have it on any...

eternal needle
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Can one of you weebs play elden ring pvp

whole current
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any1 know how much it cost to push char from 1520 to 1540 ? gold wise (just taps)

tacit snow
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50k average

rose jewel
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maxroll hone calc should help

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may or not be up to date

timber mauve
eternal needle
floral saffron
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sadly for you, you are.

timber mauve
rose jewel
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can you yeet him already

tacit snow
elder anchor
floral saffron
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lol

rose jewel
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and there he goes

cerulean pewter
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My guy is having an issue. He has the hoverboard that you got last year form the twitch prime freebie. Every time he calls his horse mount, it glitches out and he hops on the horse or the board then it goes away. And he has to call it back and has to do this about 10 time before he's able to actually get the mount out. Is there a fix for this....becaues it's killing my game time. I want to go ahead and can't beacuse we're doing this together and I have to wait for him because his stupid mount keeps glitching out.

rose jewel
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does he has any kind of controller plugged in

copper knoll
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Hello
any idea how to use tripods and runes for Deathblade?

rose jewel
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i remember like a year ago someone having the same issue

timber mauve
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Maybe they have random mounts selected as their mount shortcut.

lavish groveBOT
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The Ultimate Deathblade Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Deathblade class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

rose jewel
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that may be as well

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he wants the hover but the horse is there in the randos

rose wren
rose jewel
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bro he got banned already

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dont beat dead horses

faint pagoda
rose jewel
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@cerulean pewter yes hello, help channel to dude needing help

loud zephyr
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isnt this like pretty good

radiant flame
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Nope

rose jewel
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lol no

faint pagoda
rose jewel
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3% chance

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i better go and roll some gacha games, better chance of me getting an ssr

faint pagoda
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Better chance of honing my weapon one ilvl

rose jewel
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who am i kidding i never get ssrs

rose wren
copper knoll
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so surge and remaining energy are 2 build paths for deathblade? and in that case what's the best way to decide for a new player?

faint pagoda
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Do you like big hits? Play surge, do you like consistent hits? Play RE

outer mason
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they play really similarly either way

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they have 7 skills in common

rose jewel
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but yeah he got yeeted in 2 min

faint pagoda
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Unless you play CD owobizz

copper knoll
rose jewel
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is that your first char?

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or more specifically

lavish groveBOT
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@copper knoll

The Ultimate Deathblade Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Deathblade class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

rose jewel
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are you using the hyper mokoko on that char?

faint pagoda
copper knoll
rose jewel
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whats your item level

copper knoll
copper knoll
rose jewel
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then you should be using the hyper mokoko

copper knoll
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what's that?

rose jewel
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the thing that gives thingies when you hone to a certain threshhold

copper knoll
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still dk what are u talking about 🙂

rose jewel
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and just when im not ingame

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top right

outer mason
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"Super Mokoko Express"

rose jewel
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look for a 🎁

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no

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that is not a gift icon

copper knoll
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Oh I see it now

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ye I use it whenever I hit a milestone and Collect the rewards

rose jewel
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then you shoul aready have the 5x3 engravings due to it

copper knoll
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so my main focus now Is to max out this thing?

rose jewel
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eh... yes but

copper knoll
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fuck I chose Surge

rose jewel
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you will meet a hard stop once you hone all your armors (and weapon) to +15

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surge is good

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both are good

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like, its not even hard to play

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its hard if you want to minmax damage

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otherwise its perfectly fine

floral saffron
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i mean

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that’s rvery class

vast oriole
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i mean you can choose remaining

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you can switch between the 2

rose jewel
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and i believe your armor set is called "Entropy" blabla?

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not literally blabla

floral saffron
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i like blabla

copper knoll
rose jewel
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Earth's entropy or something

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i mean

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i've played this thing for 1&1/2 years

copper knoll
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damn

rose jewel
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basic knowledge

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anyway

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if you dont want to play surge, just switch your class engrave

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P, bottom left, it should be an icon under your weapon

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then just push things

faint pagoda
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I would also recommend reading it to get an understanding on how to play each

rose jewel
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you can test out your skills and such at "Trixion"

faint pagoda
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I dropped my DB initially because I was confused wtf I'm supposed to do

rose jewel
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you can go to the training grounds via F2>Trixion song

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then practice rotations and whatnot

faint pagoda
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Then I dropped it again cos I hate back attacking runy

rose jewel
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WD doesnt need backattack, yet here i am

copper knoll
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I did these skills after maxroll.gg and they are different from the Surge one should I keep em?

rose jewel
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ehh

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ignore maxroll class guides

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outdated, very

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follow community guides

cerulean pewter
rose jewel
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either by the link here

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you can know how to link the guide if you look at the pinned message

rose jewel
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or you can go to lostark.nexus

cerulean pewter
rose jewel
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yes, DB wants to back attack

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otherwise you will lose a GOOD chunk of your damage

rose jewel
lavish groveBOT
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The Ultimate Slayer Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Slayer class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

rose jewel
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sometimes controllers completely fuck up the game for one reason or another

copper knoll
whole current
rose jewel
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hmmmm

cerulean pewter
outer mason
rose jewel
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nah, summoner is not really zoomzoom

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yes she can build swift, but between having swift and being agile

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its a big step

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Gunslinger, Deadeye, Shadowhunter* , Aeromancer* , Soulfist, Wardancer

outer mason
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I mean she can use Raid Captain, so she's close to 140% MS somehow

rose jewel
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is what i'd call agile or semiagile and non entropy

zinc quiver
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Does anyone know where I can find the Preordained Set?

rose jewel
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again, its not about just building swift

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its about being a brick, a fast brick

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semi* fast brick

outer mason
rose jewel
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she has nothing to jump around or reposition but spacebar

zinc quiver
outer mason
copper knoll
rose jewel
floral saffron
outer mason
rose jewel
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and you need both argos and oreha abyss items to craft it

zinc quiver
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So I would assume Erupting Waves for Slayer?

rose jewel
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bro wait what

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artillerist agile?

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you ok bro

outer mason
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uses hit master and raid captain

rose jewel
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can he jump around?

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does he has any reposition skill?

outer mason
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Okay let me rephrase:
Classes that use Hitmaster and Raid Captain: Summoner (Communication Overflow), Artillerist (Firepower), Gunslinger, Sharpshooter (Loyal Companion)

rose wren
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north vern ilvl set tiny mini dress...

outer mason
outer mason
maiden locust
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they are actually useful

ebon yacht
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nvm

rose jewel
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my perception of "moves fast" is jumps around, at least 1 reposition skill that lets them move around fast at will to avoid danger

outer mason
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okay then we have different definitions of that

rose jewel
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exactly

outer mason
rose jewel
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besides, specifically hitmaster was not in the comment, he just wanted the class to not back attack (not to be entropy)

copper knoll
outer mason
rose jewel
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back attacking is not really that bad on deathblade

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you can jump around with dark axel and reposition fast and keep hitting dem cheeks

gaunt condor
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hi signum!

rose jewel
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sup

copper knoll
gaunt condor
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What are the prices for Grudge in NAW?

rose jewel
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if worse comes to happen, the deathblade can just be a mat slave later on, sadly the event express is already binded to her

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ehhhhh

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been a while since i checked

gaunt condor
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In avg

rose jewel
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think it was like 6k or so last time, but that was pre frog

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or maybe 8k

gaunt condor
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did frog make things more expensive?

rose jewel
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cheaper

gaunt condor
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oh

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my god

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theres a market checker online??????

rose jewel
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its not 100% reliable

gaunt condor
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WHY DIDNT I KNOW THAT

rose jewel
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but it should give you a rough idea

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automod, rip

strange lintel
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It’s not that good

gaunt condor
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thank youuu

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Wdym its not reliable?

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Its the wrong prices?

rose jewel
cerulean pewter
# rose jewel tell him to unplug it and restart pc

didn't fix it. We're wondering if it's something with the mouse settings maybe? He doesn't have any issues,

The issue he is having is that he can get ON the mount fine but when he gets to where he needs to be, and tries to dismount, it will automatically REmount him onto either the Hoverboard or the horse. Btw, not sure if this has anything to do with it, but h'es got BOTH the hoverboard and the horse set as favourites.

radiant flame
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There is no API

gaunt condor
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Ah

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too good to be true

rose jewel
coarse wasp
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hey guys is there no preset channel in this discord?

rose jewel
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and by any chance, the mount key is the RANDOM mount ?

coarse wasp
wraith bronze
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does legendary trade equipment give more xp? currently using the purple ones

rose jewel
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sometimes channels are hidden because discord dumb

wraith bronze
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so what's the benefit then?

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faster mining/cutting?

radiant flame
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an extra line

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potentially higher rolls

wraith bronze
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oh lol

rose jewel
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@cerulean pewter TLDR it's not even a bug, it's not an issue, it's just your friend pressing the wrong button, tell him to press "R" when he wants to get out of the mount, problem* solved

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DO NOT PRESS the Random mount key again

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yes, yes that's the actual "fix"

gaunt condor
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you actually teached me that theres a random mount key

rose jewel
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alt+v

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favorite a mount or more and one at random will appear

gaunt condor
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Imma try that next time i play xD

rose jewel
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press the random mount button again, you get out of the current one and instantly mount on another

outer mason
rose wren
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random mount fun

gaunt condor
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Just curious: whats the fastest mount in the game?

rose wren
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sometime get same mount

gaunt condor
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Like the one who can travel the fastest

rose jewel
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all mounts have literally the same walking speed

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only the spacebar is different

gaunt condor
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I mean with their dashes and skills

rose wren
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most legendary r same speed, dashes various

rose jewel
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golden cloud has the shortest dash CD, but its small, and i think Tiger has the fastest and longest jump

rose wren
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its not a huge diff

rose jewel
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or maybe its the elgacia wings

gaunt condor
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There's the chocobo like that runs fast on their skills and has low cd

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Elgacia wings? from kayangel?

rose jewel
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kayangel shop

outer mason
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wings are pretty good too

rose wren
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there's white/black

gaunt condor
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I wish I had them -.-

solar echo
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Can we search for 'expose dagger' or other traits on bracelets in AH? I couldn't find any option for it.

heady hollow
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didnt see if u got an answer or not Ok

rose jewel
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you roll them or nothing

gaunt condor
gaunt condor
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Actually reasonable prices.. haha... compared to euc...

rose jewel
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do you at least know why

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NAW is botland

solar echo
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I see thanks.

gaunt condor
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euc wasn't any better

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but im seeing less and less bots

rose jewel
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believe me, at least its not as bad as naw

heady hollow
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naw is giga bots

gaunt condor
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Like

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bots that run oreha dungeons? xD

rose jewel
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disgaea

gaunt condor
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damn

rose jewel
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Friday

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was its name iirc

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took me a min

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or no?

gaunt condor
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Meanwhile we hit 10k for grudge books

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A bit lower now but I feel stolen

rose jewel
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grudge is a newbie trap anyway

radiant flame
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^

rose jewel
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you never buy grudge unless you have a salad roster

gaunt condor
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I feel like its worth it if I play a lot of chars

radiant flame
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It's not

rose jewel
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no it isnt

heady hollow
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+5 grudge accs are giga cheap

gaunt condor
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I run 5 chars through brel

rose jewel
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so?

rose wren
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its overated

gaunt condor
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And its expensive buying them all 5x3s

elder anchor
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does vernese brisket need multiple dry rubs or just one?

radiant flame
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You're making it more exdpensive buying grudge

gaunt condor
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Wouldn't it be better if i just had x12 on grudge?

radiant flame
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2 other engraving books are cheaper than grudge

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Unless you play some giga weird roster you will have other books that works with them

rose jewel
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oh the robot was thursday, fuk me

radiant flame
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And yeah, grudge accessories are actually generally cheaper

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Because of all the people that fall into grudge trap

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Because they can't use them

gaunt condor
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Mmmmm

simple knoll
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for getting this box i must do eglacia story right?

gaunt condor
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I'll think about it yeah

heady hollow
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only reason i have had +12 grudge for so long is because i bought it when it was 3k at the height of bots and the gold summer island

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probably wouldnt buy it otherwise

radiant flame
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8k for 3/5 punisher grudge EUC

gaunt condor
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Damn-

radiant flame
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better than mine

gaunt condor
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Should I buy cursed doll books then? Adrenalin?

radiant flame
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Man, look at your roster

rose jewel
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depends on the whole roster

faint pagoda
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I just got hitmaster, raid captain and class books chilly it's what I enjoy

outer mason
radiant flame
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You run 5 characters through brel and you can't spend 1 minute to think about how to build your roster

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What engravings do they run, what overlaps

gaunt condor
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I spend a lot of time on overthinking a lot of things that I skip some xD

rose jewel
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prob a whale, doesnt matter he just cashs in and buy

simple knoll
gaunt condor
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I just thought that they all run grudge so it looked like the solution

radiant flame
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Shrug, just think for yourself

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Grudge is one solution

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Not the only one

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I don't have grudge

faint pagoda
outer mason
cerulean pewter
gaunt condor
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I've decided

rose jewel
shut pasture
heady hollow
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not really imo

gaunt condor
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Where can I find all the community guides for all the classes again?

quasi tree
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problem with cd is that while universal, some builds have better options

heady hollow
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lostark nexus

gaunt condor
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Ahh..

rose jewel
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and that as well, if you just moved one single mount to the bar, that wont happen, if you have the favorite/random mount, it will happen

gaunt condor
gaunt condor
rose jewel
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mass increase enjoyer

rose wren
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y not mass when ure always with a sup

gaunt condor
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Whats mass increase again?

radiant flame
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Also difficult to answer when we don't know what builds you're playing for them

rose wren
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increase dmg slower atk

rose jewel
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atk power +18%, aspd -10%

rose jewel
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sucks for a lot of classes

gaunt condor
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AHHH that one

rose jewel
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king on some

floral saffron
mellow mauve
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yes, they all can use cd

rose jewel
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disgustang

rose wren
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only so little, hardly a diff...

floral saffron
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i also run +1 wf though so i don’t count

rose jewel
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non existent aero

radiant flame
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Either SH build and Predator at least shouldn't be running CD. I also don't think Reaper run it (I'm guessing they use KBW or RC) but I don't know for sure

floral saffron
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i mean everyone can run it

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but most classes have a better option

radiant flame
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I did say shouldn't

floral saffron
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it’s an if theres nothing else

radiant flame
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Nobody wants to run CD lol

floral saffron
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i know i’m just saying

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cd is an if there’s nothing else you run it

radiant flame
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Yep

mellow mauve
floral saffron
mellow mauve
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not cope

floral saffron
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be a swift class and run mi

gaunt condor
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Cursed doll

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mb

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mbmbmb

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Im overthinking leave me alone xD

rose jewel
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chaos dungeon

rose wren
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CD pretty confusing

gaunt condor
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cd i was like "cooldown? crit damage?"

rose wren
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require tons of content to see the right meaning

floral saffron
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not when we’re in conversation about cursed doll

rose jewel
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his brain melting

gaunt condor
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Yeah im checking guides in the other side

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im completely lost

tacit snow
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just dont be lost

gaunt condor
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Zerker should be cheap to build right? on the guide it says he only needs crit crit crit and a bit of swift

light tusk
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whts the easiest tomes to finish 100%? early ones?

mellow mauve
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crit accs and swift accs are naturally cheaper then spec

gaunt condor
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I wonder if theres a chart for cheapest chars to build

light tusk
rose wren
gaunt condor
floral saffron
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don’t base ur roster off char = cheap

keen mason
mellow mauve
#

if they use niche engravings or/and use swift and or crit, they are a cheap class

floral saffron
#

base it off who you find fun

#

the game is about having fun not minmaxing costs

radiant flame
keen mason
#

luckily swift is fun bc i am monkey and running fast give dopamine

light tusk
gaunt condor
radiant flame
#

These days nothing is that expensive to 5x3 anyway since the drop buff for class accs

mellow mauve
gaunt condor
radiant flame
#

As I showed you, 3/5 high q punisher acc is less than 10k

keen mason
gaunt condor
radiant flame
#

And punisher is spec

#

Though I guess it was only the class acc

gaunt condor
radiant flame
#

There are a ton of unpopular classes/builds, but 1. they're unpopular for a reason, and 2. if you actually want to main them properly they're not cheap

gaunt condor
mellow mauve
gaunt condor
#

AHHH so many issues that would be solved with swiping

light tusk
#

like meta classes r expensive no?

mellow mauve
radiant flame
#

...that's what I'm saying

#

They are initially cheap

mellow mauve
#

you need people playing the class for class accs to exist

radiant flame
#

But if you actually want to play them well

light tusk
#

ohh ya

mellow mauve
#

and tripods/gems if you're buying them

radiant flame
#

You still need to build them for endgame

#

And gems are like, >50% of the cost of a class

gaunt condor
#

Yeah like when slayer punisher got nerfed it went so cheap in just a few days

radiant flame
#

(Assuming you don't go some crazy whale territory and get sidereals and minmax bracelets or stones or whatever)

gaunt condor
#

........ gems oh yeah those

radiant flame
#

Gunslinger is mostly a crit class but needs 7 damage gems

gaunt condor
#

ffs why they have so many cool classes

#

I wanna play them all T_T

tacit snow
#

saving 50k on your build it will only save u like 3% total cost in late game

radiant flame
#

^

tacit snow
#

buuuuut if is an 1520 alt mostlikely with cheap build u save all the gold

gaunt condor
#

thanks for all the tips everyone

#

idk what to do for sure with the x12 engravings but i got a better way of thinking now :')

light tusk
#

i kinda hate that the game forces u to have 500 alts

tacit snow
#

it doest

mellow mauve
#

you can play 1 character and be fine

light tusk
#

i mean yeah but if u wanna keep up with content u need gold

gaunt condor
#

Yeah but

light tusk
#

and then u need to swipe

rose wren
#

ya fomoing

mellow mauve
#

^

lone sigil
gaunt condor
radiant flame
#

You know where my gold goes? building all the alts I don't play any more

gaunt condor
#

Issue: its expensive if you wanna properly play them all

radiant flame
#

I spent 500k+ on my igniter which is gathering dust

tacit snow
#

6 alts = 6 times more gold u need, unless u want cheap alts who no one is going to accept in pf

gaunt condor
#

My biggest regret

#

Is not having a support in my roster

lone sigil
#

also if you only play 1 character you have to accept that this isn't a main game where you can sink all of your time into doing content

#

because the game's content is designed around artificially lengthening it via repeating it on multiple characters

light tusk
mellow mauve
lone sigil
#

high ilvl alts are gold negative for literally several months

gaunt condor
#

Business plan: make an alt roster - run 6 supps - send the golds back to the main - repeat

lone sigil
#

unless you are mentally ill and bus every possible raid on them

green adder
#

my friend hasnt played since day 1. can he sell his founders promotion outfit? and if so is it worth anything

tacit snow
#

i mean is simple math, 100k on a "good" alt, how long it will take to recover that

rose wren
#

see price on market

radiant flame
#

Anyway, there was a time when alts was the play - when we were grinding t1/t2 and you didn't need to spend anything on alts

green adder
#

can u trade in this game or no

keen mason
#

yes

mellow mauve
keen mason
#

trading in person or via mail same server

#

cross server use auction/market

light tusk
cerulean pewter
keen mason
#

cross region impossible

radiant flame
#

But now it's different. Honing is so expensive. You can play alts but there are plenty of people who don't play a million alts and get on fine

lone sigil
#

realistically the people who are getting by fine with 1-2 characters are established players who are already caught up and have relatively low upkeep costs just honing for min ilvl for the next content release

shut pasture
lone sigil
#

if you're playing catchup from behind, you're not going to replicate the results to remotely the same success

light tusk
rose jewel
radiant flame
tacit snow
#

ez

lone sigil
#

you're still going to want 1490 alts

radiant flame
#

Of course there are always challenges from starting from behind

#

Yes, but there's no rush to get them

rose wren
#

name a mmorpg thats catching up?

radiant flame
#

And it's not a race

#

And it's not like you can't play the game without alts

lone sigil
shut pasture
#

The moment you start trying to compete with everyone else around you for literally no reason other than FOMO because you saw the thing is the moment you lost the plot.

radiant flame
#

Alts for sure help, nobody is denying that, but if you have limited time, or just want to take things easy and not FOMO, you don't need a million alts to just play the game

#

All the KR streamers even say how much free stuff we get

#

Compared to KR

#

In terms of honing mats

lone sigil
#

telling people to not fomo is futile because it's baked into the game and human nature

radiant flame
#

Stuff tied to character progression

#

Sigh

tacit snow
#

alts are really good for silver, they are like bifrost location for cards, island, events, gold if u invest them and like them but that would be another main at some point

radiant flame
#

So you're going to tell them to actively FOMO?

rose jewel
#

besides, most people, even in kr, manage only between 1 to 3 chars, at most

#

it was us westerns that fomoed super hard in the game's opening talking about maximizing resources to catch up

mellow mauve
rose jewel
#

well, ye

rose wren
#

so ur 1 of those nolifers? since ur heavily fomoing

lone sigil
#

everyone is going to fomo in a game even if there isn't vertical progression

#

nobody wants to be stuck doing old content when new content is out

rose jewel
#

i have 2 akkan chars smilemk

#

and have only done 1 akkan up till now

#

coz no time

shut pasture
lone sigil
#

gatekeeping is already ruthless if you aren't on the new content train within the first week or two of release

radiant flame
#

I don't know what your point is. Are you suggesting noone can play this game unless they get a ton of alts and catch up?

tacit snow
#

what serenade is trying to say, even tho fomo is used like a meme know ans it starting to lose any meaning at this point, it means eveything is this life is fomo, new game fomo, concert/event fomo, new artist fomo, new serie fomo, new product fomo, drama fomo

lone sigil
#

the people telling you to not fomo are people who already are at a point where they are caught up, it's a hollow mantra to repeat to people

mellow mauve
#

I tell people to not fomo

shut pasture
#

I am actively not at that point

radiant flame
#

I dunno, it's more telling people to not make the same mistakes too

mellow mauve
#

and I'm behind most of the avg top of end of the player curve

rose wren
#

im not at endgame eithe

shut pasture
#

There are plenty of others who share in that position as well

lone sigil
#

you're actively playing the game and far ahead of people who are starting off

shut pasture
#

I get where you're coming from, but I think its a slight copout to try and shunt it onto "Well its human nature" or "the world is built around it" doesn't mean you should just bend over for it and let it run your existence in this game.

lavish groveBOT
#
The Ultimate Reaper Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Reaper class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

lone sigil
radiant flame
#

I don't think content is limited at 1540

lone sigil
radiant flame
#

You can literally do all content other than Akkan

lone sigil
#

didn't really work out did it

rose wren
#

its not true, there r many people who enjoy 1player

shut pasture
tacit snow
#

literally all content creators supported the idea of getting tons of alts

shut pasture
#

Doesn't change the position of not perpetuating it, though

radiant flame
#

^ This

lone sigil
#

they still said to not fomo

radiant flame
#

Lol

rose wren
#

content creator r lame

lone sigil
#

it's useless advice anyways

radiant flame
#

Saint literally feels bad

lone sigil
#

people are going to fomo

radiant flame
#

About telling people to make a ton of alts

#

Because he himself realises it's all fake

shut pasture
# lone sigil people are going to fomo

There are a number of examples of people I have personally suggested to hop off the FOMO trap and they have reported back that they are enjoying the game more because of it

tacit snow
#

it was always fake

#

simple math

lone sigil
#

saint probably finally realized that the game isn't really a mmorpg but a daily and raid logger

rose wren
#

is there a way to move on from this topic

tacit snow
#

the idea of ppl getting tons of alts is not bcz they have that idea by themselfs is bcz everyone were saying it all the time

gaunt condor
#

Im wondering whats the good way of leveling strongholds efficiently?

lone sigil
#

not a discussion for this channel

radiant flame
#

Research stuff that looks useful

#

Not something to stress voer

rose wren
gaunt condor
#

the random researchs give exp?

radiant flame
#

Yes

#

Everything does

gaunt condor
#

Okay thats all i needed xD

lone sigil
rose wren
gaunt condor
#

Making feasts do??

keen mason
#

research useful ones and cheap ones droola

radiant flame
#

I wouldn't make random feasts

lone sigil
#

and it nudges you towards spending if you don't want to deal with that

radiant flame
#

Feasts are expensive

gaunt condor
#

The feast from the event

keen mason
#

the resources required for feasts and the upfront gold cost is expensive for them

#

event might be ok?

#

its pretty cheapo

gaunt condor
#

I accidentally used 10k coins on it

#

So i might aswell make as many feasts if it gives exp

radiant flame
#

I'm not sure if feasts give exp actually

#

I'm not a feast maker so

gaunt condor
#

Huh ill test it out tmr

lone sigil
# rose wren it doesnt encourage that

it also soft encourages it since raiding is the only content so in order to stretch out the content, you need alts, unless you are fine with one character's worth of raids

radiant flame
#

Let's just move on

copper knoll
#

Hello
should I do this quest or save it for later?

keen mason
#

that quest just tells you everything you need to do to unlock elgacia, which you should do for mats and story prog, and will have to do to unlock kayangel abyss dungeon

radiant flame
#

Well, you should do it at some point. But you most likely don't have all the requirements yet

#

?elgaccia

#

whoops

#

?elgacia

sage duneBOT
#

Elgacia questline requirements:

  • Reach item level 1460
  • Press J, go to the "Guide" tab, accept the guide quest "[Guide] Guides: Elgacia"
  • Make sure you have completed all the storyline from Tortoyk, Arthetine, Shushire, Rohendel, Feiton, and South Vern on that character
  • Complete the following questlines in order:
  • Whispering Islet: "Whispering Voice" -> "To the Sound"
  • Great Castle in Yorn and talk to Balthorr: "Searching for a Legend"
  • Isteri: "The South Sea Island" -> "Blue-Blazing Blade"
  • Vern Castle: "Into the Chaos"
  • Wisdom Isle: "The Infinite Darkness" -> "Tabula Rasa"
  • Any major city and talk to "Papa": "The Gate of Paradise Opens"
  • Vern Castle and talk to "Solar Knight Rahel": "Paradise of the Dreamless"
gaunt condor
#

If only i knew this command earlier :')

#

Would have saved me hours on random youtube vids

copper knoll
radiant flame
#

Why are they telling you to not do it?

#

It's literally a main story quest

#

That unlocks content

tacit snow
#

the only reason to not doing it is bcz u hate the game

radiant flame
#

Or if you just don't want to push a character

copper knoll
radiant flame
#

I mean, sure

#

I don't know what ilvl you are at

keen mason
#

gear won't matter for just doing the quests

copper knoll
copper knoll
radiant flame
#

Well, you don't need to do it yet

#

That's not where the quest starts?

keen mason
radiant flame
#

Is it?

#

I don't even remember

rose wren
#

it is

keen mason
#

it is

radiant flame
#

lol

tacit snow
#

maybe

radiant flame
#

Is it not papa?

copper knoll
radiant flame
#

Ah

rose wren
#

they mention theyve done it so

tacit snow
#

papa is another quest

keen mason
#

imo you actually should do it before 1490 because it gives you a bit extra honing mats that are only useful up to 1490

#

you can always trade them up but

radiant flame
#

^

#

True

copper knoll
#

alr i'll do it

radiant flame
#

It just takes a while

tacit snow
#

5 hrs incoming

gaunt condor
keen mason
#

it's a nice story the first time thru at least blackcat_staresintoyoursoul

#

i liked it

copper knoll
rose wren
#

going through story express, is it quicker to use preemitive strike or spirit absorption?

elder anchor
#

how large is the sacred charm aoe?

tacit snow
#

small

#

like u need to be close

keen mason
#

that starts the world quests up

copper knoll
#

oh, ty

lavish groveBOT
#
The Ultimate Deathblade Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Deathblade class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

fallow trail
pallid aspen
#

Do I have to have LoS 18 or KLC 12+ for kayangel normal? Or can I get away with an alternative?

vast oriole
#

Use deep dive

rose jewel
#

with whatever you have

vast oriole
#

U should have that

pallid aspen
#

Yeah I have the 18 set

rose jewel
#

its not obligatory, its just another damage increase

#

a better* damage increase

vast oriole
#

Dd18 is really good

rose jewel
#

but not gamebreaking or game changing or "i dont have klc i wont be able to clear it"

pallid aspen
#

Right

rose jewel
#

if you have it good, if not, whatever

pallid aspen
#

It just sucks that I don't have LoS 18 yet lmao

floral saffron
rose jewel
#

it comes with time

floral saffron
#

dd is perfectly fine

rose jewel
#

i barely have los21 after nearly 2 years

floral saffron
#

dang ur bad i have los 19

rose jewel
#

i lost by being better

fallow trail
#

some people are at los35

rose jewel
#

funny thing

#

i have klc18 already

#

fookin los

floral saffron
#

i have klc 6 WICKED

pallid aspen
#

How do you farm klc? Just legion raids?

vast oriole
#

I have klc 16

rose jewel
#

just do your legions

vast oriole
#

Mizu slacker

floral saffron
#

what do you want me to do bro

vast oriole
#

Do your ghost ships too, can drop akkan

floral saffron
#

i only have 6 chars

#

fuck no

#

fuck that

heady hollow
#

mizu slacking

floral saffron
#

fuck ghost ships

vast oriole
#

Meant for sensational

floral saffron
#

i ain’t soloing that shit content

#

oh

#

just wait for the gs/chaos combination thing

vast oriole
#

Ah yeah youre on a dead server

pallid aspen
#

I haven't done a ghost ship since T1

floral saffron
#

surely that’ll drop akkan

pallid aspen
#

progging akkan won't be horrible right?

vast oriole
#

No

pallid aspen
#

bwet

vast oriole
#

Its pretty easy

pallid aspen
#

bet*

vast oriole
#

Compared to brel 5-6

pallid aspen
#

I'm on ilvl so I don't wanna get humbled

#

I have yet to try brel 5-6

rose jewel
#

lantern pepeW

vast oriole
#

Well he hurts a bit

pallid aspen
#

Ik how to do 4 but neevr completed it lmao

#

never*

floral saffron
#

5-6 is ez WICKED

vast oriole
#

But youre not supposed to get hit since you gain meter

#

Lantern in g2 is the only bad thing

#

And the drowning in g1

heady hollow
#

people drown in g 1? HUH

rose jewel
#

no, lantern in g3

vast oriole
#

And janitor in g3

rose jewel
#

i was the janitor

vast oriole
floral saffron
#

we know arna.

vast oriole
#

My bf has fun being janitor

rose jewel
#

thus i didnt learn shit

floral saffron
#

don’t point it out more than you have to

rose jewel
#

coz it was a pug

floral saffron
#

just be janitor god every time signum

vast oriole
#

But now he doesnt know patterns of g3

rose jewel
#

exactly

heady hollow
#

i think ive gone in the water like twice in all 3 of my runs

#

but never fully drowned

rose jewel
#

i dont drown nor go to the water

#

i die before that c:

#

:c

pallid aspen
#

Does kayangel count as raid gold?

heady hollow
#

yes

vast oriole
#

Yes

rose jewel
#

yes

pallid aspen
#

welp

rose jewel
#

its the same as clown

#

so

#

assuming normie

heady hollow
#

akkan, hm kaya, and brel, Deadge

rose jewel
#

voldis when

heady hollow
#

surely ill be 1620 in time

vast oriole
#

Pls no 1620 is so far

#

I was always on ilvl on time

#

But maybenot this time

heady hollow
#

im only 1590 rn pepeWa

vast oriole
#

Same

heady hollow
#

akkan honing so expensive man

#

literally just watching gold evaporate

vast oriole
#

My shards evaporate

heady hollow
#

i was at 2.3m a couple days ago pepeWa

vast oriole
#

I was 1580 since kayangel and i was relaxing, not doing chaos and all

#

And now im suffering from it

heady hollow
vast oriole
#

I have same shards basically

#

No leapstones

#

No fusion

heady hollow
#

dude yeaah, leapstones nonexistent

vast oriole
#

I have 170KEKW

heady hollow
vast oriole
#

Ill need to do sonavel every day and keep them ffs

#

Ok worse than me

heady hollow
#

its tough out here

floral saffron
#

i only have 1k mleaps

vast oriole
#

Maybe ill do more than 3 dailies leapstones

floral saffron
vast oriole
#

I have a shitton of +1

floral saffron
#

not even enough for +17 wep PES2_Broke

vast oriole
#

I dont have a lot on new artist

#

I wanted to go +17 right when i get it

#

But i think ill be able only to +15

floral saffron
#

i’m gonna try to get +17 so i’m 1560

rose jewel
#

just 1tap, ez

floral saffron
#

but idk if i even have enough destruction stones for it

#

let alone leaps

rose jewel
#

just whale, ez

vast oriole
#

Destruction stones i have a lot

floral saffron
#

i’m gonna whale for shards in a bit

vast oriole
#

But i have only 600 leqps

floral saffron
#

gonna buy the 10 honor pack things

rose jewel
#

the shard pack is actually not bad

floral saffron
#

it’s $50 for 450k shards

rose jewel
#

the 500rc one

floral saffron
#

yeah

vocal cedar
#

Hi! I can join guilds only from same server or?

rigid plank
#

Yes same server only

elder anchor
#

can u rub the brisket while in raid?

heady hollow
lone sigil
#

that's actually worth it

fallow trail
#

brisket the tome item right

floral saffron
lone sigil
#

you know what i mean

#

it actually beats out black market value even

#

it resets at the end of the month right

floral saffron
#

yeah

#

it’s 10 per month

#

so 450k shards a month for $50

lone sigil
#

must have been a recent thing where they upped it from 5 to 10

floral saffron
#

yeah

#

idk when but it’s fairly recent i just noticed it at 10 this week

lone sigil
#

its nearly 25% more efficient value not even counting the silver

floral saffron
#

idek how much silver it gives

lone sigil
#

6m

floral saffron
#

i only checked the shards

#

per thing? or for them all

lone sigil
#

all

#

600k each

floral saffron
#

that’s decent ig

lone sigil
#

for 1 character enjoyer like me who needs to prep 25 akkan weapon, its helpful

floral saffron
#

just rmt like you always do

lone sigil
#

you are confusing me with chuan

vocal cedar
#

How hard are "Hard" dungeons during leveling?

lone sigil
#

not hard

vocal cedar
#

I can solo them?

rose wren
#

story dungeon?

#

yea

vocal cedar
#

Okay tnx

severe drift
#

hey is there a 5x3 guide? its pretty complicated given theres 5 engravings and finding the cheapest combo is alot

rose wren
#

community class guide

rose jewel
#

we dont have our api, so you will have to check prices of everything and find whatever best combination you can get

#

you have that to help

bold geyser
#

the only way you're gonna get 5x3 is with legendary books right?

heady hollow
#

nope

wraith bronze
#

anyone know when golden frog will end?

heady hollow
#

multiple ways of going about it

bold geyser
#

i need like a....10/7 stone to make it work otherwise

heady hollow
heady hollow
#

5x3 is pretty cheap nowadays too

#

compared to last year

bold geyser
#

yeah that's got a legendary book

#

to replace the 10/7 w/ a 7/7

#

okay so i was doing it right

heady hollow
#

i misread ur comment then, i assumed you meant two legendary books

#

which you dont technically need

#

also

bold geyser
#

right

#

alright >_<

heady hollow
#

10/7 stone basically dont exist

bold geyser
#

oh i know

turbid jewel
#

Are island quests farmable?

#

The ones that are opened 24/7

heady hollow
#

i dont think they are

#

someone can correct me though

#

i dont remember the last time i did an island quest

#

they are either roster wide, or per char

turbid jewel
#

That’s what I was thinking

#

Is it roster wide or char

#

Just started playing 4 days ago

#

My main is in Rohendel, but I use a North Vern pass for my alt so that it can help me with dailies

#

Main is 700 and Alt is 500

heady hollow
#

dont even worry about your alt rn

#

espesically to "keep up"

#

your main isnt even at end game rn

#

get your main as high as you can and then worry about alts if u want

turbid jewel
#

Gotcha

heady hollow
#

you also should have gotten a south vern pass that shoots you straight to 1415

turbid jewel
#

So should I just MSQ all the way in my main?

rose wren
heady hollow
#

game uses month/day format btw

turbid jewel
heady hollow
#

ima be honest, you learn basically nothing 0-50

rose wren
heady hollow
#

you learn none of the games systems and basically no idea how ur char works

#

because you lack stuff

#

so unless u care about the msq, i suggest using the powerpass GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

minor igloo
heady hollow
keen crater
#

For the commanders selector from kaya hard mode reward at the light merchant, do i use it on thaemine? (if i do, i’ll be able to have his first awaken)

heady hollow
#

do you need that thaemine for klc18 or something?

#

if u dont, no need to get it rn imo

floral saffron
#

if you don’t actively need it save it

keen crater
#

I need something for klc12

#

im one card shy

floral saffron
#

i wouldn’t use it for klc 12 tbh

#

it’s still easy to get awakenings then Hmm

heady hollow
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yeah, just wait until you get another card from a raid or something

floral saffron
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18 sure

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but 12 i wouldn’t

keen crater
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Okay, thanks, saving it is

turbid jewel
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Well I don’t care about the MSQ tbh

bold geyser
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got a 9/6/2 stone

minor igloo
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you still need 1 non-dupe to activate klc

bold geyser
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i'll take it

minor igloo
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but if you're using it for a thaemine dupe, i'd rather not

turbid jewel
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But it’s like, I might not understand the explanation of the content and the systems if I immediately jump

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Or am I wrong?