lost-ark-help

[shy chasm]

You get no gear

[floral saffron]

the paid south vern pass does not give relic gear.

[shy chasm]

It's just does the main quest for that region

[meager rock]

i've heard if you pay premium currency to skip elgaia you get 1415 gear correct ?

if i pay in game gold to skip until south vern, would it work to then proceed to pay 1100 premium currency to skip elgaia and get that 1415 gear ?

[wraith bronze]

a bit of both I guess but somewhere in the middle would be ideal.

[maiden locust]

I do both of feitons and the elgacia one that gives 5 that u afk for 2min

[timber mauve]

Knowledge transfer (outside of the north Vern one) ONLY completes the main story, nothing else.
It’s just a story quest skip by paying some gold.

[wraith bronze]

got it

[heady hollow]

/berserker

bruh

[timber mauve]

The Elgacia power pass should give relic gear.

[meager rock]

so would it work to pay for elgaia with premium currency to get the gear ?

[lavish grove]

@flat plume

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[flat plume]

ohhh ty

[meager rock]

thanks ♥

also is there any kind of community "tier list" around ? i dont really care about what is the best but mainly about what is doing good and at what ^^

[heady hollow]

tier lists pointless

every class can mvp, every class can be useless in the wrong hands

[meager rock]

i'm not arguing otherwise

[timber mauve]

Balance patches happen so frequently, no one really keeps one up around here that I know of. I’m sure there out there, but idk where.

[meager rock]

fair enough, my friend would like to play glavier i know it's pretty good i just dont know why that's why i thought a tier list would help

[heady hollow]

not really, tier lists dont really have explanations half the time

[timber mauve]

Why? Because it just got buffed. But it’ll also get nerfed since it’s pretty strong.

[meager rock]

fair enough

[timber mauve]

If you really want to know why, read balance patch in the patch notes. #announcements

That will tell you all changes to every class.

[meager rock]

what about EO soulfist ? i'm a returning player and i just realized yesterday, that it got reworked and that illusion strike looks amazing

alright thank you !

[maiden locust]

one of the strongest classes right now

even stronger when elixirs and voldis come

[meager rock]

well turns out if you dont have the right ilv you cannot knowledge transfer so my thing wouldnt work
thanks for the quick answers guys o/

[meager rock]

Nice thanks !

[heady hollow]

what are you trying to kt

or what was ur plan in the first place

[maiden locust]

@meager rock

[heady hollow]

old

[maiden locust]

really

[heady hollow]

yep

[maiden locust]

wasn’t this last month

wait wrong pic one sec

[heady hollow]

and things changed already

[maiden locust]

meant to send the one from legalia and tofu stream

[floral saffron]

LEGALIA TIER LISTS

[shy chasm]

[vast oriole]

Trashiest tier list

[wheat swan]

Tier lists

[floral saffron]

@vast oriole full bloom d tier stop playing it right now!!!

[vast oriole]

[heady hollow]

wait where is blessed aura pali

[maiden locust]

he said

the supports ones don’t belong here

[floral saffron]

?

[maiden locust]

do those are just placed randomly

[floral saffron]

i see artist

[maiden locust]

ya

[wheat swan]

Reflux D tier

[maiden locust]

he just dragged it

for fun

[floral saffron]

control c tier

[maiden locust]

i guess

[floral saffron]

[vast oriole]

No its not placed randomly

[floral saffron]

control c tier baby

pls buff sg

[vast oriole]

He was madge about artist player

[floral saffron]

[vast oriole]

That artist is shit to play with

[bold geyser]

phew got it

and i didn't even wipe us

[heady prism]

Hey

[floral saffron]

@sg pls buff glaiver

[vast oriole]

U did prokel ?

[bold geyser]

no

next time ill be ready tho

[heady prism]

so im trying to craft an epic tool but i found a problem

[heady hollow]

glacier

[maiden locust]

i dunno if i recall the video correctly i think he said the support ones should be separate from dps

[heady prism]

my crafting workshop is level 5

[floral saffron]

they should all be no where

[vast oriole]

No he literally said that artist is trash tier

[floral saffron]

cause legalia is stupid as fuck

[vast oriole]

Thats why he placed it there

[floral saffron]

and his tierlists mean nothing

[heady hollow]

you dont have the recipe learned

[maiden locust]

i didn’t know he was so hated

why is that

[wheat swan]

Gotta research

[heady hollow]

you buy it

[heady prism]

it doesnt show in research

my stronghold is level 42 i have every research done

[vast oriole]

U need to buy the recipe

[heady prism]

from?

[vast oriole]

In the market island

In stronghold

There should be npcs there

That sell recipes

[floral saffron]

[heady prism]

i see thanks

[vast oriole]

Tierlists are just stupid

[maiden locust]

sorry i don’t know the scene or whatever

[vast oriole]

He does them for content

[mellow mauve]

fr

unless it has bard as S+ tier

[vast oriole]

Cant be s+ tier when theres no cleanse

[mellow mauve]

[heady hollow]

i think in all 3 of my akkan clears so far, there wasnt a single bard in any of them

[maiden locust]

hm is there not a ranking to the classes tho? i know it’s heavily dependent on the player/investment, but many seem opinionated when it comes to down to a situation with similarly skilled/geared players playing together

[vast oriole]

Someone sent you the ranking

That someone made

[mellow mauve]

realistically

there is usually 3-5 over performing classes

and the rest are middle pack

[maiden locust]

i guess so, and then the bottom of the list hated classes like reflux

[vast oriole]

Tldr u can clear everything in the game with every class
Dont play dps support
If you have hands, u can mvp with anything

[quasi tree]

its not that bad guys i swear

reflux buff waiting room

[vast oriole]

Reflux got buffed last patch in kr so i would even watch the tierlist

[mellow mauve]

this fr

[vast oriole]

Everything is not that far away from each other

[quasi tree]

the buff just moves it from dead last tbh

[mellow mauve]

plus most if not all dps tier list, focus soley on classes theoritical or potential dps in raids

[quasi tree]

but tier lists only assume ceiling which is unrealistic

[mellow mauve]

and ignores synergy, stagger, destruction, utility

etc etc

[maiden locust]

of course

how else can u post ur mvp screen

[vast oriole]

I mvp as support

Get good dps

[mellow mauve]

radiant support enjoyer

[vast oriole]

U can mvp with support, with counter

Theres multiple ways on mvp

[mellow mauve]

depends on how much the pie is being split between the dpses

[quasi tree]

Realistically just play whats fun
At some point, overtuned classes will get slapped and shit classes will get buffed

[vast oriole]

Ye

[quasi tree]

Meta chasing sucks

[maiden locust]

4 man tho

[quasi tree]

My top 2 got hit by double 3% nerf

[floral saffron]

tier lists are unrealistic in general

[mellow mauve]

or just be arcana

[floral saffron]

no one is gonna have actual experience on every class

[quasi tree]

Sorry i played the wrong mage dpses ig

[mellow mauve]

fr

[vast oriole]

Just play support, you will always be s tier and always be wanted

[floral saffron]

the to make an accurate one

[floral saffron]

true

sorc

[maiden locust]

yk how they talked about support changes in korea?

what do u guys think it’ll be?

[mellow mauve]

nothing tbh

at best, they let you see numbers when you buff

[vast oriole]

I just want a change on sonic vibration and sun well

And a cleanse

Rest whatever

Dont care

[maiden locust]

for bard?

[quasi tree]

Easiest change is addint concrete numbers

[vast oriole]

Ye

[floral saffron]

i hope bard doesn’t get a cleanse still

[maiden locust]

i agree just add cleanse to her existing debuff block

[vast oriole]

Oh and not needing fucking max mp3+mp recov bracelet to not get oom in 30secs

[loud parcel]

guys need help pls guardian raid lvl 2 if anyone online

[vast oriole]

Why do you need to do it

[loud parcel]

to lvl up alt

[mellow mauve]

you can just skip it

[quasi tree]

Eh i think gtune being preventive over reactive is cool

[mellow mauve]

you don't get that much mats from graids

[loud parcel]

ok what should i do ?

[vast oriole]

Better to do tower/event for that

[mellow mauve]

like arna said, do tower for mats if you havent or event shop and just do your daily chaos

there's no way to quick push up an alt unless you already have mats prepared

or can use gold to supplement

[vast oriole]

Or have gold

[floral saffron]

gold

[loud parcel]

ok guys thank you

[maiden locust]

btw how much better is lwc 30 and mos 30 vs plan?

[floral saffron]

@mellow mauve did you see the bracelet my aero had rn

[mellow mauve]

nah

[floral saffron]

i’m goated at rolling assail fr

my db has 2 assail bracelets and my aero got assail

[vast oriole]

3.5 vs 1.5 lwc vs plan
2.5 vs 1.5 mos vs plan

[floral saffron]

73? i think swift/116 crit/assail

it’s decent for rn

[mellow mauve]

ye

[maiden locust]

they’re calculated the same way?

[mellow mauve]

yes

[maiden locust]

i see

[floral saffron]

i love dark damage

my db does it even without klc

[maiden locust]

is that card set better than exposed or dagger?

[mellow mauve]

not better than exposed

[vast oriole]

Its bonus damage

[mellow mauve]

but you run both anyways

[vast oriole]

Exposed is crit

[floral saffron]

card set overrides tripod dmg type right

[maiden locust]

someone told me exposed is crit%

[mellow mauve]

yeah

[floral saffron]

like if i have a dark dmg tripod on sa los will override it

[maiden locust]

so it added to their crit chance?

[floral saffron]

so run dd still in kaya on my db got it

[mellow mauve]

yes

it's 2.5% crit rate to the entire raid

[maiden locust]

wth

[vast oriole]

1.8/2.1/2.5

[maiden locust]

i was only able to roll dagger on one of my alts so far

does sorc do more dps than a summoner

[uneven cape]

I already have a lvl 50 account and i've received 2 powerpasses, but if i hand leveled a new account from level 10 to 50, will i receive an additional 2 powerpasses?

[cerulean stone]

is it worth buying the kayangel HM chest for honing mats?

[quasi tree]

both classes have builds that vary in dps patterns
can you be more specific

[rigid plank]

The 2 free North Vern powerpasses are once per region per account. You cannot get more on another server in the same region.

[uneven cape]

ouch

[rigid plank]

I would personally say yes. It mostly depends on what you're planning to do with your characters, either parking the character at 1580 and not honing for a while or pushing the character past 1580 to get to 1600 for Akkan Hard and beyond.

[cerulean stone]

pushing to 1600

well .. maybe 1605 or beyond

i have 2m honing shards but I don't think that'll last very long

[orchid willow]

how do we get text messages in chat when using skill?

[cerulean stone]

i'm being held back by blue shards

[bold geyser]

i should broadly level my ancient gear to +15 for starters right?

[lavish grove]

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[maiden locust]

go to settings, there should be a section that says something like macro text and put what u want there

[dry storm]

Guys a little help, whats the best way to make GOLD in LOA if i want to do the mad route like more ALTS in the same account or another acc? More Alts for Chaos Dungeons or Another Acc for more Raids?

[minor briar]

check pins, it has chest value

pretty sure 1 and 3 r lowish value

[minor briar]

wdym

[minor briar]

that’s enough for 1600 from 1580

[minor briar]

ye, the pp is per steam account, but why, u’d have to do all horizontal again

[minor briar]

life skills

10 accounts that do life skills, sell mats, transfer gold to main acc

[bold geyser]

i should level my fresh ancient gear up to +15 when i get it, tho i got the 1 to +16 to hit 1500

right?

[minor briar]

i mean, if ur rushing to 1540 ye

but there’s 1520 to hit first if u want to do 5-6

and access new chaos

[bold geyser]

okay so thats all 13, or a bit of a mix if i dont have other pieces yet

thanks

[minor briar]

yep

[bold geyser]

i just got 1+2 done, currently 1508.33, so i gotta learn 3+4

[minor briar]

ah, glhf, g4 is funnest gate when it’s learned imo

[bold geyser]

do i get the mission completion rewards for the super at 1540 or higher up?

[maiden locust]

1540 for the final rewards portion and u get a chest u can open every 10 ilvls from there

[bold geyser]

this part's 1540?

[heady hollow]

yes

[bold geyser]

i only just found out about the 1550+ stuff a little bit ago so my plans are in chaos 🙂

i feel like such an imposter trying to get intot hese runs

[jovial urchin]

1550+ stuff isn't just worth pushing for unless you were already planning on pushing there

it's just few honing mats

[maiden locust]

if u don’t push to 1580 u don’t get the lvl 8 gems

the pouch expires

[heady hollow]

you dont even get them

currently

[maiden locust]

wut

rly

[heady hollow]

yes

[maiden locust]

so no point to push

[floral saffron]

there are no level 8 gems

[jovial urchin]

we don't have lvl 8s in our version

[maiden locust]

my plans are also ruined

[bold geyser]

any reason not go just use pheon coins when i get them?

[heady hollow]

because theyre expensive

[quasi tree]

can be expensive at times

[heady hollow]

and its stupid using them when you dont know what ur doing/buying

[bold geyser]

no no no

like, literally consuming the item

[quasi tree]

nah, thats how you do it

[heady hollow]

oh thats fine

it just adds it to ur currency count

[bold geyser]

just wondering if there was a reason not to

[lavish grove]

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[cerulean stone]

Well I have to buy 2 and 4 anyways because of wings lol although I dont know if the value is good. If i'm buying for the honing shards then yes, but if I'm not last time I checked g1 is only like 50-150ish radiant stone

[arctic pasture]

is there a way to check daily islands every day and their rewards? lost ark codex doesnt show rewards

[rigid plank]

This resource from Maxroll for islands might help for rewards and for checking for which island it is for the day, you can look in Procyon's Compass or the Calendar in top left bar of screen

[arctic pasture]

is there a gold island today?

[heady hollow]

just check ingame

[rigid plank]

There are none today

[arctic pasture]

i cant log on rn thats why im asking if theres something online

[quick ice]

anyone had issue having ticket in inventory but game not allow to use and still count as 0 ticket?

[arctic pasture]

thx

[quick ice]

tried to use on my aeromancer but not work

[maiden locust]

Hover over the item and send us a picture

[rigid plank]

dismantle them then it'll work

[quick ice]

it say it have to destroy it

[rigid plank]

Dismantle, not destroy

[quick ice]

ty

[elder anchor]

should I make a master rod or shovel?

[rose jewel]

every day 1 of each month on reddit there is a post which shows which days there is a gold island

[rose jewel]

honestly, none, if you really wanna commit, whichever you do the most, some people HATE excavating, some people prefer exca for a bit more profit (usually the case)

[elder anchor]

excavating is faster and more gold (based on my fishing vs excavating lvl) but the minigame sucks ass

[rose jewel]

thus why i said some people hate it

i dont mind it, i prefer exca

[elder anchor]

does having minigame reduction at 5 make it easier?

[rose jewel]

i guess?

never had anything above purple

[untold crystal]

is it more profitable to sell all the materials you get from gathering or to craft with those materials

[rose jewel]

region and market dependant

you have to calc it

[elder anchor]

There might be a calculator online somewhere

[untold crystal]

tbf i just started leveling tradeskills, focusing on logging as it seems timber sells for the most on market

[elder anchor]

u just put in the numbers

[rose jewel]

the amount of timber you get per energy and the profit made out of it is probably lower compared to excavating or fishing

more than probable

[untold crystal]

Probably ngl

[elder anchor]

uhhh fish is 350 per 100, relic is 300 per 100, timber is 184

[rose jewel]

there's a reason why most if not every single person tells fish and exca is more profitable

[elder anchor]

mainly because ppl actually need the mats from fishing and excavating for vertical content, timber is for stronghold and potions but we get so much free potions

[untold crystal]

so would you recommend to dip from logging and start fishing if what im looking for is profit

[elder anchor]

fishing will always be profitable unless bots come back 100 fold

[rose jewel]

if you want profit now, go directly for any of those

if you want to play the long game / long run, you can level all life skills to 30 then focus on one

example: gathering (herbs and shrooms) makes a fookin lot of profit with platinum field ticket, its a must

[untold crystal]

thats what i plan on doing, i found the gathering part of the game better than the raiding, das just me tho

[rose jewel]

to each their own

[elder anchor]

my foraging is at 41 because I used to make my own pots back before they gave us so many free ones, but Im too lazy to do plat fields

[rose jewel]

i feel life skilling in this game sucks super bad, other games have it better

[elder anchor]

do you know a good guide for plat field?

[rose jewel]

but some people like it

ehh

not exactly, i just youtube it usually

forgot which one i had

[untold crystal]

so if logging makes me 2k gold per 4k energy (avg) how much would fishing give appx? or is it down to rng

[rose jewel]

i think memorizer had one

[elder anchor]

is that 2k gold without the leap essence?

[untold crystal]

Yes#

[rose jewel]

both rng and market

[elder anchor]

excavating is like .8/1 ratio for me

[untold crystal]

im saving leap essence for when i get higher lvl in tradeskills

[rose jewel]

ehhhhhh

leap only makes you use 2x energy for 2x exp

its only a time saver

AND

[untold crystal]

oh right, i guess i misread

[rose jewel]

while excavating you want to actually play as many minigames as possible, which is where you get the most mats

if you use leap you play less minigames

meaning probably less mats for the day

not a lot but still less

[elder anchor]

so i just used 6.5k energy and sold about 5.5k in mats for excavating (not including tax)

but Im lvl 44 with gold shovel and gold charm (world tree leaves)

[fiery zinc]

For Gate 3 Akkan, anybody know what the boss timer needs to be at when you cast thirain, and can get sidereal meter back for wei to end the fight?

[elder anchor]

how do you get bound crafting kits?

[maiden locust]

Bound excavating maps

[terse hound]

hey my steam is on loop validating, any fix? I think it might be because of this Korean VO shit again

[pallid panther]

Guys is there any possible way to add a extra layer of security on a lost ark account ? Like pin or something

[shy chasm]

Steam 2fa

[pallid panther]

That dint helped when i got hacked one for some weird reason

Now im kinda afraid to invest too much in-game

[elder anchor]

anyone know the max stats on relic tools?

[shy chasm]

how do you even get hacked on steam tho unless your just clicking shady links

[pallid panther]

I dont really know, i think it was a ppl that had acess to my account but steam never confirmed that.

Since it was using a dns i could really know. But i always used 2FA

I've forgot to disconnect the dispositives, i just did that + password changes after what happened

But im still afraid nowadays, does it make any sense ?

[shy chasm]

only time I had my acc hacked was cuz my brother clicked some link for nitro on steam atleast none of the games I played had progress or data tied to steam

Could make the 2fa also send a code to your phone number instead of email ig

[terse hound]

update on this I disabled the Korean VO DLC and it finished the download/vallidating

[maiden locust]

Phone number 2FA is very insecure

[shy chasm]

Oh

[pallid panther]

How ?

[pallid panther]

I agree, i know in Kr they have some kind of pin security thing

[shy chasm]

Nvm that

[elder anchor]

is my minigame reward aquisition the same as minigame reward or did i just get unlucky?

[rose jewel]

old emails are usually not really the safest, even if you never got hacked, they probably know credentials already

so changing pass every now and then is good, and of course an email exclusively for steam

[pallid panther]

I did that, and im always veryfing time to time on steam guard if any dispositive has acess, but it just show my pc and the mobile itself for now

[rose jewel]

completely changing the email for a fresh one should be a good plus for security

and of course doing it from like, your phone or another device

[fossil linden]

what stone you need fo5 5x3+1?

[rose jewel]

[fossil linden]

it says you can do it with 6/5 stone but I am trying with an 7/6 and my math is not mathing

can someone give me a templete or something for it? I have never built a +1 before

[quasi tree]

can you post what you have

usually people struggling are trying to force a specific piece

[fossil linden]

I don't have anything, just trying to make this from scratch

[quasi tree]

iirc your stone 6 is probably 6 + 3 + 3 + 3

sec let me math this out

alright i was wrong but still

[bold geyser]

lets see...
5xA 3xB Jewelry
5xC 3xD Jewelry
5xC 3xE Jewelry
5xC 3xE Jewelry
5xF 3xE Jewelry

6xF 6xE Stone

12xB Engraving
12xD Engraving

Gives

15B
15C
15D
15E
15F
+5 A

right?

[quasi tree]

[bold geyser]

or some such combination like that

[shy chasm]

Just do it in on the site

That's much easier to read

[bold geyser]

🤷

[maiden locust]

You’re not getting anywhere with a 3/3 and 6/0 accessory at least

[quasi tree]

oh yeah

thats why i said it usually doesnt work if you're trying to force a piece

even in that build, 3-3 is literally impossible because the only way to squeeze in more nodes is the two +5s
one of which is your +1 so a 6 there means nothing

[maiden locust]

From the image, you could get a 6/3 AM/MI earring, and a 5/3 Grudge/AM earring and you should be good

[fossil linden]

I copied this and it worked ty

[true cypress]

Which one of these classes would be best at bussing most content comfortably assuming you main the class and have it juiced
Glaivier, Wardancer, Deathblade, Gunslinger

[bold geyser]

is it worth it to buy gems on the market?

[rose jewel]

do you have the gold for it and do you not want to wait to get them naturally over time and do you want an upgrade asap?

worth is a very subjective word

[bold geyser]

yeah just broadly curious 🙂

[rose jewel]

again, subjective

you use gold to get something faster

[bold geyser]

how about....is it worth it to dump the same amount of gold on gems as accessories

or nah

[rose jewel]

or you use that gold to get other things and get gems slower but for free overtime

that is .....

not really something comparable

[bold geyser]

damn

thanks anyhow 🙂

[rose jewel]

which accesory, what quality, will it help you with a +1 or with a 5x3 or is that your first accesory or what

maybe im dumb but that question is like, those are not comparable

[rustic oracle]

guys should I use powerpass on GS or Slayer

[rose jewel]

besides maybe the gem you want is lv9, or 7, or 5, or what lv, the accesory for the same cost may be trash

[rose jewel]

throw a coin in the air

not something we can answer, play what you like

[rustic oracle]

I like both

[bold geyser]

yeah i was just wondering if there was like a rule of thumb for what tends to be the best bang-for-buck

[rustic oracle]

but I heard GS is cheaper to build rn

since slayer price insane

[rose jewel]

well, you answered your own question then

[bold geyser]

don't think too hard on it just idle curiosity, i'll keep at it

[rustic oracle]

but booba

[rose jewel]

both have boobs

slayer's are bigger

that's about it

some like them smoler

[rustic oracle]

fair

[fast oar]

my friend is stuck in ernonner and doesn't know how to get back to vern castle. he got there by a quest on a ship?? we're both super new

[maiden locust]

You got there with albion

[warm sleet]

Go to the Albion

[fast oar]

thank you so much

they've been complaining for 20 minutes

[maiden locust]

They don’t have any bifrosts or song of return either?

[fast oar]

we pass skipped

but they didnt register to anything for song of return

[dreamy heath]

which order are you supposed to buy ancient gear in ?

[warm sleet]

dps should start with gloves and then shoulders
supp should start with armor and then pants

[dreamy heath]

cool. ty

[graceful spruce]

Do +20 brel and +20 akkan weap have the same glow?

[shrewd wasp]

what is the max number of skill points we can get right now?

[radiant flame]

No. Look in #info-dump for the glow colours

[radiant flame]

420

[shrewd wasp]

ty

[little temple]

is it just me or my ping starting to go insane after 11 am?

It's been 4 days now

I'm still getting over 1000 ping every 2-3 mins

[buoyant herald]

maybe thats just when your wifi-stealing neighbour wakes up

[little temple]

Very funny , 1gbps

[buoyant herald]

never heard someone have ping problems specifically at some hour XD

[radiant flame]

Don't you play from outside supported region

[little temple]

Before server merge it was fine

quite invalid

[radiant flame]

but you're still on a VPN?

[little temple]

I dont use vpn

[radiant flame]

Shrug, think it's a you problem

[little temple]

No..

I study networking

[radiant flame]

Idk what else to say. There isn't a ping problem

[little temple]

so it's not my side

[buoyant herald]

maybe its some routing issues ?

try something like exitlag idk

[little temple]

exitlag made it worse

[buoyant herald]

[radiant flame]

If it was Lost Ark/AGS, we would all be having problems

Just because you "study networking" doesn't mean it's not a problem at your end

[little temple]

why u doubting my knowledge

[radiant flame]

Sigh

[little temple]

if its a problem on my end I would've fixed it

p.s it's only lostark

[shut pasture]

If it were a widespread issue then it would be something more people are commenting on

[little temple]

not everyone in euc is from singapore smh.

[shut pasture]

Sometimes it can be due to your specific area and its connection to AGS servers

Or it could be your ISP

[little temple]

I already contacted them

No issues

It's just the ags server being a bitch

[shut pasture]

Then all you can do is wait it out

[little temple]

planning to do that tho , I've given up , it was fine before 11 am and after 3 am

amazon messing with me , gave me 1234 ms

[heady hollow]

[lavish dune]

BIG DAMAGE

Should i do this? i need these materials to hone my ancient gear piece

[pallid panther]

When leg skins kick in will people gatekeep for that ? I was wondering

[pallid panther]

I mean sure but you are low on Gold to craft them

[lavish dune]

what should i do then...? i don;t think i got any other source for these materials

[heady hollow]

just wait to get more gold

yeah you can make them, but when you go to hone, you wont be able to do because u have no gold

[lavish dune]

Can't you earn some gold in the stronghold? there are some helpful stuff there but my stronghold level is 8

[heady hollow]

no

well not directly

you can make orehas and sell them

but thats about it

[lavish dune]

Hey Lagoon island is appearing in 2 days

At 13:00

[noble ferry]

when did we get this emote, and how to grab them?

[balmy plank]

From the creator emote contest. Theyre free and you already have them

[minor briar]

pins has it all if u checked it

[noble ferry]

oh very nice

didnt know

thx

[minor briar]

prob no, ppl still dont really gatekeep off 5x3+1 (ancients coming out)

[radiant flame]

I do get a bit triggered when I see someone without any skins

[gusty steppe]

can u drop a fate ember with no restbonus?

[radiant flame]

No

Wait

Yes. You don't need rest bonus to drop fate embers

You just need aura of resonance

[humble relic]

yo lets say i have a 1570 armor piece and i craft akkan gear can i trasnfer it or does the armor piece need to be 1580

[radiant flame]

Yes you can transfer it

[humble relic]

wait what ilvl does it transfer to then ?

[radiant flame]

+11

[humble relic]

okay thank you

[heady hollow]

Real

[wooden breach]

How does brelshaza drops work? In some gates it gives me an extra phantom intention with a blue mark in the left but in other doesnt give me at all

[radiant flame]

You get double mats the first 5 times you do a gate

You probably did g1/2 more than you did g3+

[verbal viper]

I created a bard and selected it for the story express when on another character.

I decided that I did not want to play bard and deleted it.

Now I want to story express an artist but there is no option for me to do it. Any advice on this situation?

[minor briar]

gg

[verbal viper]

Uh oh

[teal flicker]

hello

oh, nice

this guide is really big lol

interesting

thank you

mmmh... ok ok

going to save it

oreha fusion material

i can get it just from the market trading gold?

[rich leaf]

would ominum star still drop if you kill a different boss on the next hour?

[fallow sail]

Nope, field boss rewards can be earned once per day

[rich leaf]

gotcha, also is it true moake and hermut ominum drop rate is now 100%?

[fallow sail]

I think the odds were improved, but not 100%, no

[rich leaf]

oh i guess we were just lucky, i did moake with like 4 other people and we all got it

[sullen spire]

is there a way to automatically add the card you got to your collection? i saw it on a kr streamer where you didnt have to right click to have it added

[radiant flame]

There’s a button in the card screen

[rich leaf]

card catalog > enhance > auto save

[radiant flame]

Top right

[teal flicker]

thank you! I will log off too 🙂 See yA

[sullen spire]

ooh thanks wording was confusing ._.

[minor briar]

yes

[sullen spire]

was hermut 100%? i thought they only removed the pvp zone from the boss not 100%

[minor briar]

pvp zone is kr only i think

we dont have that yet

[fallow sail]

Hermut is not 100%

[minor briar]

kr rates are 100%, why wouldnt ours be

[lofty scaffold]

how much kaya mats does nm give?

[vast oriole]

6 +3 from box

[lofty scaffold]

oh ty, I have to bid for it then

[vast oriole]

Y

[minor briar]

cuz 16+9 = 25

xdd

[lofty scaffold]

16+9=169

[viral flax]

the event quest requires rethramis on the border. does anyone know if it has to be completed on that character or just overall.

[minor briar]

character specific

[trail hawk]

you can start the event when you go outside the church to get the "first mount"

[viral flax]

so why cant powerpassed characters use it anymore?

[minor briar]

u have to have it uncompleted

or on that quest

[trail hawk]

because story express begins at lvl10, powerpass = lvl50

and story ends when you reach south vern, powerpass sets you in south vern

[tropic cipher]

i heard there are a lot of changes to this game but have they done anything to alt system yet?

[distant cairn]

is there any way i can enter solo to alarics sanctuary to get the 15th giants heart? it seems no one is playing the older dungeons

[radiant flame]

What alt system?

The fact that people can play alts?

That will never change

[pine tusk]

yo guys is there a bracelet guide anywhere? checked #info-dump and #guides-and-info but didnt see anything

[radiant flame]

Watch a video

Zeals’ video is quite good

[tropic cipher]

the gold splits between alts and character bound items

[minor briar]

nope, u'll need to do it thru pf or discord organisation

[radiant flame]

Gold splits?

[minor briar]

some of the community guides have it for each class

just the recommended stats

but not how to roll/lock/upgrade them etc

[pine tusk]

ye im interested in which special effects are good to roll for/you should stick to if you roll them

[tropic cipher]

to put it simply, the game forces you to play 6 characters instead of 1 or 2

[radiant flame]

Watch a video

It will explain

[radiant flame]

It doesn’t

[trail hawk]

it does not

[radiant flame]

It doesn’t “force” you to do anything

You can choose to play 6

But you don’t have to

People get along fine with 1 or 2

[pine tusk]

aight ty

[viral flax]

mokoko event pass not story

[radiant flame]

Honing costs are so high in the endgame you’re investing so much into alts that could be going into a main

[tropic cipher]

i know i dont have to but if i dont i'm gonna be behind of the people who do

[radiant flame]

But essentially any roll that clearly increases damage, crit or crit damage

[radiant flame]

You’ll always be behind

Why are you worried about that

Just enjoy the game

[trail hawk]

story express it the one with lvl10 and rehtramis quest, not mokoko

you can use powerpass, and then go mokoko express

[tropic cipher]

i literally cant

because i always got gatekept

[radiant flame]

Then don’t play

[viral flax]

i know but it doesnt work anymore on new account :c

[radiant flame]

Lol

[tropic cipher]

dude

[radiant flame]

How does alts have anything to do with gatekeeping

[tropic cipher]

i just want a simple answer

[radiant flame]

And I’ve given you one

[tropic cipher]

yes or no

[radiant flame]

No, nothing has changed with alts

[tropic cipher]

no you didnt

[radiant flame]

But you don’t have to play 6 characters

[trail hawk]

mokoko express need a lvl1415-1489 char to be activated on

[radiant flame]

You are so fixated on this idea that you need to play 6 characters to “not be behind” and I’m trying to tell you that is not true

[minor briar]

1415-1539*

[tropic cipher]

ok that's the only thing i wanted to hear

thanks anyway

[radiant flame]

Great

[trail hawk]

if you equiped the relic set the powerpass gave you, you should be 1415

[viral flax]

i had it active on that account and after merge it doesnt work anymore, no more engraving support etc

[trail hawk]

did you have a char on euc before the merge and used mokoko express there?

[viral flax]

i did char on both servers on a new account and both had super mokoko express but then both removed .-.

[minor briar]

it shouldve taken the higher progressed express

[heady prism]

Hey

are these maps worth it at all

[radiant flame]

Not to craft

You will extremely likely lose gold

[leaden raven]

I am lvl 30 and just got my stronghold. Would I get anything more out of it if I use my aeromancer powerpass to make a high lvl alt? I am not planning on playing on the alt outside doing stronghold stuff for now.

[fallow trail]

Yes if you get a higher item level character, you can do researches in your stronghold to have better chances of succeeding in honing for your lower item level characters.

[leaden raven]

Will it affect my leveling experience on my main?

[trail hawk]

if your main is higher level, no

[leaden raven]

My main is still lvl 30, I only have the pass because of the aeromancer event

[trail hawk]

lvl30, so at thirain king

still have some ways to get to vern

honing rates at lowlvs are 100% anyways

[minor briar]

alts dont do stronghold stuff?

i assume ur doing story express

which is good

so u'll have 2 chars at 1415

whether u play that 2nd char that u powerpassed, is up to u

but there are benefits to having a lvl 50 char early

[leaden raven]

So I can't speed up my stronghold development with a high level alt?

[wild robin]

I have a question, I just recently started playing and im lvl 38, up until where should I follow the main questline?

[silk shard]

Only do main questline really

[wild robin]

how long does that last

like up until what lvl

[rich verge]

once you get 50 it'll be harder to level up than usual
but you have lots of regions ahead

once you finish north vern story quest you'll have the "daily" system which is doing una, chaos dungeon, and guardian raid

north vern isnt the end of the story quest tho

[wild robin]

oh

right now my main quest just says find the ark

does it matter where i go

[rich verge]

your new main quest is the blue one

im guessing you just finished getting a ship?

[wild robin]

yeah

[rich verge]

you'll get this light blue quest

that'll be the new main quest

[wild robin]

whats its name

i cant abandon some quests so i cant find it

[rich verge]

uhhh im guessing go to the ship or go to tortoyk

any of those 2

or open your inventory, cus you'll have this paper that shows a picture of a girl, right click it, she'll be your first ship companion

[wild robin]

i did that i think

[rich verge]

can you click J and show a screenshot of it real quick

im as lost as you now lmao

[rich verge]

go to your ship

[wild robin]

ok

[formal bay]

Tips for starting as a new player on the gatekeeping issue?

[thin token]

if u are brand new then maybe consider just waiting for the soon to come jump start servers which are specifically made for new / returning players

they will be in this months update

[formal bay]

Yeah probably will. Date? For now just gonna learn the games things

[fallow trail]

9/13

99% of it happening on this date

@formal bay

[craggy sparrow]

Hello we're returning players that got to 1490 ilvl thanks to the mokoko express, we still have our dimentionnal set and I wanted to ask if we should craft our relic set or try to go directly to the ancient set

[fallow trail]

Relic then ancient

[thin token]

you cannot skip relic set, so you will need to get that first

[craggy sparrow]

ok thx !

[minor briar]

i dont rmb if things in there are even level locked, but sure, no loss in using the the power pass

[minor briar]

r u using the story express?

[minor briar]

join lfg discords and find friendly ppl that r willing to help

?lfg

[sage dune]

We have lfgroup and lfstatic channels in each of our region categories (requires region role).
You can filter the postings by clicking on content relevant tags or even 'Learning Group'.
#1051258008853807174/#1051296705649319976
#1051276943619792948/#1051285338569580564

Also check out some LFG/Learning dedicated Discords:
Lost Ark LFG (International): https://discord.gg/lostarklfg
Mokoko elp (EU Central): https://discord.gg/mokokoelp
Loot Heroes (NA East): https://discord.gg/nae-lootheroes
Lost Ark Mokoko's (NA West): https://discord.gg/lost-mokokos

[wild robin]

no idk what that is

[minor briar]

rip

[wild robin]

what is it

?

[minor briar]

when u finish a main story quest continent, it gives u rewards

and later on, gives u pre-honed gear so u dont need to hone

for the later continents

basically wat ur doing now, but extra rewards

[wild robin]

ohh

[minor briar]

to help u do it faster, (gearing to endgame)

[wild robin]

can i do that on top of the jumpstart servers

and just restart when they come out?

[minor briar]

jumpstart is separate server so new chars

[wild robin]

yeah

but it would be much faster

[minor briar]

ur lvl 38.. which isnt too far in

[wild robin]

right

[minor briar]

i mean, depends on wat u want, to build a current roster on live servers AND play jumpstart too to later on merge tgt

or, just play live only

cuz they basically have the same newbie events

[wild robin]

oh

[minor briar]

story express and super mokoko

but ofc, u get a new one on jumpstart

[wild robin]

what would you reccomend

[minor briar]

uhh

ideally u make a new char, use story express on it, then powerpass ur current char with the free one u shouldve gotten AND do that on jumpstart too, if u really wanna do story twice(its like 20 hrs total of questing) then u'll have 4 built chars for "free" after the merge

whenever the merge is

but, if ur lazy, can just play live only

cuz im not really sure how jumpstart will go

[civic arch]

what are the best ways to get balthor cards other then wait for the merchant ?

[minor briar]

if it will really be non-gatekeeping or w/e

[radiant flame]

There isn’t a best way

[minor briar]

same as any other leg card

[radiant flame]

You can whale

Do card runs

Pray

That is it

Though balthorr will only drop from yorn and above abyssal

[civic arch]

you mean buy a shitthon of card packs from shop ?

and pray

[timber mauve]

Yes

There’s really no other way.

[solar echo]

How come the harmony shard pouches still have value in AH?

[floral saffron]

becuase people buy shards

[solar echo]

Aren't they tier 1/2 though?

[floral saffron]

yeah and people buy them to hone alts

[civic arch]

hm

yeah not gonna do that

need 9 balthor for dd30

😦

since im not even cloes to klc or los

[minor briar]

ideally, u buy mari packs when gold to bc is cheaper

[solar echo]

If people buy harmony shards, does this mean it's worth to exchange rift pieces for the tier 2 maps?

[lavish grove]

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[floral saffron]

i mean

no

[lone sigil]

T3 shards are so expensive right now I highly doubt t1 and t2 shards are better

Especially since most people just powerpass their alts

[floral saffron]

^

most people skip honing t2

so yes theyre worth stuff bc some people do

but

[rich verge]

not really sellable, right?

[floral saffron]

no

[rich verge]

to the gutter

[lavish dune]

Bruh what 250 gold for one superior fusion material?

[fallow trail]

Iirc it’s for 30 of them

[lavish dune]

ye 30 is good

[civic arch]

20*

[lavish grove]

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[maiden locust]

when are we getting power pass for south vern?

[timber mauve]

Like two weeks ago.

[maiden locust]

.

can i still get it rn?

[timber mauve]

#lost-ark-help message

Yes you can get it

[maiden locust]

alr

[elder anchor]

Is mini game reward the same as reward acquisition rate or am I just unlucky?

[onyx tartan]

help me

[maiden locust]

what ilvl does south vern power pass give u

[surreal carbon]

For NAW server what time do you guys think has the most traffic for party finder?

[onyx tartan]

I don't know. I can't select it from yesterday

[minor briar]

there are sheets that calc this, usually its worth but no one runs it tho

[minor briar]

same

shovels pretty good for stacking and mini game

[minor briar]

1415

[minor briar]

the whole day tbh, since naw has pst, oce,sea and cn players

[lavish dune]

Is this rune worth buying?

[humble pulsar]

what are all the sources of lvl 5 amulets buyable?

[minor briar]

some classes need it ye, but the shops infinite currency so u should buy it all out

[humble pulsar]

legion raid exchange and kayangal light exchange?

[minor briar]

ye

just those 2

rest from events

[lavish dune]

I'll do this dungeon again to get coins and buy one

I can't do more cuz i need this item token of protection

[humble pulsar]

thanks ulti!

[minor briar]

probably buy the more important things first

if ur roster doesnt need that rune then buy it last

[lavish dune]

Which?

[lavish dune]

idk im support

[minor briar]

the honing mats?

ah

then maybe its more important

[lavish dune]

I'm at relic-ancient grade gear

do i have to buy the hone mats?

they're for lower tier

There's protection stones there tho i think

[minor briar]

u can convert them up

5:1

or for ur other chars

that arent 1490 yet

[formal bay]

Any gunslinger here? Any build for pvp please

[lavish grove]

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[minor briar]

@formal bay

[keen mason]

do the comm guides have pvp builds

ive never noticed them but its possible i cannae read

[lavish grove]

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[formal bay]

There's no skill build for PvP on it? It's showing like 3 skills instead of 4

I am trying out the Proving Grounds, I'm new to the game but enemy tanks deal 500k more dmg than I deal, doesn't make much sense if it's supposed to be a balanced arena?

[fallow sail]

Look at maxroll for book of coordination builds

[formal bay]

What's maxroll

[timber mauve]

A website

[minor briar]

some do, some dont

[minor briar]

thats normal skill build?

theres no lvl 5 tripods on arena

or thats rowen or smth

[lavish grove]

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[trail hawk]

arena has no ranks or gems

[minor briar]

ye ik

[minor briar]

oh, scroll down lol

u basically play the same way in rowen as u do in arena

[formal bay]

maxroll.gg says something completely different lol

[minor briar]

oh right, theres no engrs, u use shotgun skills in arena

just follow maxroll one then

or check in game recommended

[formal bay]

ill try this first

I thought it was domination crit build for gunslinger

now im maxed into swiftness

[lavish grove]

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[formal bay]

What's this absord thing I keep seeing

I deal 0 dmg to it

[minor briar]

thats u doing dmg to shields

[formal bay]

cant attack when there's a shield?

[minor briar]

no, u dont see the dmg number thru it

[arctic vale]

Hello can you go from legendary gear (argos) straight to brel ancient gear or do you have to get valtan/vykas first?

[minor briar]

latter

[arctic vale]

ah thats unfortunate

[formal bay]

pvp dead in this game?

nobody queueing even on Kadan

[trail hawk]

arena is region wide

and there is no season atm

[formal bay]

even wrose

What is this shit

9 sec stuns

[trail hawk]

you have to get used to arena in this game

its not noob friendly at all

[formal bay]

9 sec stun into dying

[trail hawk]

when your team is kek =p

[formal bay]

I mean

I'm dealing 12k dmg

9k dmg

with sniper on knocked down targets

then I get a velkoz ult in my face for 50% of my HP

What am I doing wrong

[minor briar]

pvp is really high skill ceiling

and very low floor

theres a lot to learn

[formal bay]

I mean I'm just looking at pure damage numbers

cuz I know there's a lot to learn

[coral umbra]

anyone know what is next class to be released after aeromancer?

[vast oriole]

souleater

in november

[heady prism]

Okay i wanna ask something cuz it doesnt add up

[trail hawk]

better not

[formal bay]

How does my awakening ability work

It never pops up

[quasi tree]

Did you buy chaos shards

[trail hawk]

one that shoots, the targets has to be there when it shoots

[formal bay]

Im doing arena

[quasi tree]

You still need shards

[heady prism]

on the sheet it says the brel gives a specific amount of intentions per gate after i made my calulations the first 4 gates should give u 20 according to the sheet but when i did the first 4 this week i got 40

[trail hawk]

if you start awk, and target moves, it misses

[quasi tree]

Unless they patched it

[heady prism]

how does that make sense

[quasi tree]

Double loot for first 5 clears

[quasi tree]

You dont have the shards probably

Just buy off auction house

[vast oriole]

and you have 0

[rose wren]

dont market buy thats whale

[vast oriole]

its way better buying them with gold than with silver

[heady prism]

is that per gate or for the whole thing

[quasi tree]

its easier to farm the 5 gold than the silver

[trail hawk]

yeah, spend 500k silver on 2000 chaos shards

[heady prism]

cuz i only made it past g5-6 once

[quasi tree]

Each gate has its own 5x buff

[lavish dune]

Do you get a powerpass when you do Rowen main story??

[quasi tree]

So if you only do 14 itll finish but 56 will still have

[trail hawk]

no

[lavish dune]

What about Elgacia?

[trail hawk]

you get it for finishing punika only

[radiant flame]

You don’t even get this

It’s automatic

[rose wren]

punika doesn't exist anymore

the only quest powerpass is nvern

[trail hawk]

yes, but for event powerpasses, you need to finish punika, or is it south vern now?

[radiant flame]

No

[vast oriole]

No

[radiant flame]

It’s nothing

[formal bay]

whats this class

with all the summons

whats the name

[lavish dune]

idk i have only these two cities i have never done their story

[vast oriole]

Summoner

[trail hawk]

you dont need to finish the story to get advent tome for it, just step into the zone and you get it

[lavish dune]

So you get no powerpass if you do Elgacia main story first time?

[trail hawk]

no

[lavish dune]

Aaaa

[trail hawk]

the only powerpass that takes you to south vern is one from event

[maiden locust]

what is the reward from the chest

from mokoko express

when u get to 1580?

[trail hawk]

50 60 70 are mats only

no lvl8 gems yet

[maiden locust]

okay so there is like no chest for 1580?

[trail hawk]

maybe another one with mats, but definetly no lvl8 gems

[maiden locust]

okay cuz

i got my ayaya 1580

and i thought i lost that chest somehow

💀

after opening it on 1570

[formal bay]

tank btw

[quasi tree]

Just so you know, there's a pvp chat in this server so you dont need to spam the help channel

#pvp-general

[trail hawk]

there is a pvp channel idd

[lavish dune]

do you know which cities give powerpasses? like if i wanted to create new character now and get it to Punika or Vern can i get at least one of these powerpasses?

[faint pagoda]

Uuhmm you can buy em or do a knowledge transfer

[fallow sail]

There's a south vern power pass active rn, it'll be mailed to you if you have trusted status

No other requirements

[blazing plover]

where is the crafting recipe for prime fusions? i can only find the farm one

[fallow sail]

If you need more powerpasses then buy them

[faint pagoda]

Research

[lavish dune]

how do i know if my account is trusted

[blazing plover]

it only shows farm for me.

[faint pagoda]

Maybe in the market you can buy a recipe

[timber mauve]

You don’t need trusted status for the event south Vern power pass.

[faint pagoda]

[timber mauve]

But if you can buy and/or list anything on the market, you’re trusted.

[faint pagoda]

The market on your sh

[dreamy bluff]

when did they add the update that automatically change your preset to your chaos preset when you load in to do the pirate island(hypno 5leaps) daily?

[pseudo atlas]

pretty sure the first 3 of those is regular prime fusion and the second 3 are farm

you can tell it's farm because it says "fusion material chest" and is also bound

[pseudo atlas]

is your chaos preset the first preset in your presets?

[dreamy bluff]

no

[bold geyser]

can mouse over it for the full name

[dreamy bluff]

my raid build is my 1st one. chaos is 2nd

[lone dew]

Is light of salvation still the way to go?

[pseudo atlas]

i know that the pirate island daily has changed the preset for a long long time, but i never figured out how it worked exactly

[bold geyser]

eventually, there are some others that are easier

to bridge the gap til it's maxed out

[pseudo atlas]

it wasn't a recent addition at least, probably like a year ago at this point that it did that

[bold geyser]

theres a setting somewhere...hold on

[dreamy bluff]

i stopped doing hypnos for a long while so i never noticed. although it does make since since its a similar type of mobbing

[dreamy bluff]

you can use deep dive until you get you LOS18/30

[lone dew]

i already got 18 awakening but i see another set with dark dmg

[dreamy bluff]

lost wind?

[timber mauve]

Then kazeros legion whatever KLC 30 for other fights.

[dreamy bluff]

los do dmg against dark enemies, klc do dmg against light enemies @lone dew

[lone dew]

light of salvation

i guess the dark dmg is usefull for kayangel

[dreamy bluff]

yea although only on some of the bosses in there. dont think the 1st boss count

[vast oriole]

1st boss doesnt count yes

but it gets removed so

[dreamy bluff]

oh yea true

[lone sigil]

los30 is enough for all your needs

[faint pagoda]

Los 30 is less dmg than klc18 in kayangel

[lone sigil]

klc30 realistically isnt happening unless you are running literal dozens of raids a week on alt in addition to buying card packs

klc18 is within reach but not so much for new/returning players

[dreamy bluff]

los 30 is 15% holy dmg. cant really hurt an angel using holy dmg that much

[lone sigil]

los30 is easier to get than klc30 is the point

so any goal should be working towards the former while klc18 is something you just slowly work towards from raiding

unless you feel like spending hundreds of thousands if not millions on card packs

[dreamy bluff]

i wonder if most of the newer guardians will be light based

[radiant flame]

I hope you are not suggesting you’re doing reduced damage using LOS

[lone sigil]

guardians are irrelevant content and only idiots care about whether you bring dark or light set to a fucking daily

[dreamy bluff]

not that i was mainly talking about los18/30 vs klc18/30 in kayangel

[radiant flame]

The difference is minimal

Maybe ~4% or so

[dreamy bluff]

danm that little? kinda thought it would be bigger

[radiant flame]

That’s why you use maths

[pseudo atlas]

it's 7/15% base and then you add 10% to the number if it's elemental advantage

[radiant flame]

Well it’s a multiplier

[pseudo atlas]

isn't it additive since it's all elemental damage?

[radiant flame]

Nope weakness is a multiplier