#lost-ark-help

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raven imp
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maybe it just my feeling but last 2-3weeks i feels like i get more from 6x 200, then before while i took 3x 500.

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can be wrong, really not sure. 😄

timber mauve
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Meta in kr is the small bag iirc

raven imp
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10k bar is bait, like rl lotery. 😄

neon sedge
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can any good samaritan teach me the mechs of g4 of eternal cradle of light? thank you ^^

swift saffron
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ATK guide on youtube not good enough?

rose jewel
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do you want a video guide or do you actually want a real human being telling you what to do each mech from 0 going in blind 100%

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which is like, low chance of happening, learning groups assume you first watched a video guide

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if you however have any questions about a certain mech that you didnt get after watching the video, feel free to ask

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you can also call it kayangel, much easier to remember

neon sedge
rose jewel
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i recommend memorizer92

neon sedge
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yeah i see it here, i usually watch his guides they are pretty good

rose wren
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cheatsheet up and listen to mentor

maiden locust
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what should i click or edit to see cost from 1510 to 1540 if i will use only bound mats

timber mauve
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It seems like you have everything selected properly.

thin token
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anything u have to buy just means that gold number gets higher

maiden locust
thin token
# maiden locust ok just making sure

but shorely you wont actually meet worst case scenario, i pushed multiple of my alt chars from 1515 > 1540 and it did not cost that high. About 70-100k gold and 1.5k+ bounded leapstones was enough

timber mauve
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I would bet on 60-70% of worst case

thin token
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yea

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its the last 2 levels from 13-15 is aids

fickle coral
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whats M

radiant flame
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Mario

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Gate 3 minigame

inland grove
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have a friend who's coming back to LA, they have a <=1490 sorceress, glaivier, and machinist. For using the express event with 5x3 and gems, which do you guys think would perform the best, but with the least sweat involved (easier to play)? Any other classes that perform >=average with less sweat??

vast oriole
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depends the build of the sorc

thin token
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or just make aero mancer

rose jewel
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easy
new glaivier
pick one

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i dont think back attacking is fun, maybe its not as hard, but not really fun

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ironman is easy af, reflux is easy af

rose wren
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better think fast as its ment to dissapear instead got a extra week

rose jewel
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just literally pick whatever

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if he enjoys those 3, whichever is a good pick

rose wren
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yep

bronze pewter
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does anybody have chaos dungeon reward spreadsheet for 1580/1600?

rose wren
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pin?

bronze pewter
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cant find in either

rose jewel
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those will more than probably be outdated by next week anyway

bronze pewter
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how? same base rewards different special loottable no?

rose jewel
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i am probably wrong but i believe they mentioned some tweeks on the drops, like higher lv gems, so probably other stuff is touched

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but my genuine question here is

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why do you need a loot table

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maybe because im lazy and i dont care and i just do it and be grateful i get loot

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but i dont care about the exact, or the average amount of mats i get

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i just know i get mats

bronze pewter
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i dont need a loot table, i just wanna know what the rewards were cuz a friend asked about it

rose jewel
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the rewards are the same but for akkan

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same shards, same gems

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silver

bronze pewter
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?

rose jewel
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the usual

bronze pewter
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all g bro i found it

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Shards : 9800=>19200
Silver : 92k=155k
Leaps : 6=>7
Blue : 245=>210
Red : 72=>65
Gems lvl3 : 1.14=>2.25

rose jewel
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i didnt mean same as in literally the same exact amount

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i meant the t3 shards

bronze pewter
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yes we all knew it was gonna be next tier, but how much is a different thing

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all good i found my answer

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wasnt in pins or smth either

rose jewel
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what the rewards were =/= how many rewards we get, but maybe im just stupid

bronze pewter
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u misunderstood, happens

solar echo
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What's the max possible ilvl in NA currently?

lavish groveBOT
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The Ultimate Glaivier Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Glaivier class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

outer mason
maiden locust
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How much is a legendary bracelett tier 1 with crit &100 quality worth?

outer mason
maiden locust
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Ooh

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Was a ring

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anyway that piece was garbage and I sold for 500 gold

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item lvl 302 or smth like that

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how is that possible

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lol

outer mason
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only tier 1 and tier 2 accessories sold are for busses usually, so weird

maiden locust
obsidian ether
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ayo do i spend 40k on surge books and 15k on +3 surge accessory or 40k on two surge +3 accessories

fierce hill
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u will need to buy surge books eventually

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if u are gonna 5x3x1

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unless ur going +12 double combat

obsidian ether
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ah sht

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its alt quite low down on potential main

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might stay 5x3 for a long time

fierce hill
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up to u then

rose wren
solar echo
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Are the phantom ghost ship any good

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Maybe I'll try anyway lol

outer mason
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it's decent

solar echo
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Oh, bound solar loots

snow vine
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Why can't i search for Circulate on bracelet?

thin token
rose jewel
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all the good shit on bracelets besides combat stats is rng

solar echo
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How does the relic set level work if you transfer to ancient?

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Do you keep the levels

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e.g. level 2 relic hallu shoulder -> level 2 ancient shoulder?

rigid plank
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yes

solar echo
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Ok thanks

midnight nimbus
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Is it recommended to build up rested cd/gr starting tomorrow? Or is it better rewards (but more time) to keep doing them unrested?

thin token
rose wren
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y tomorrow?

thin token
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because its 5 days to get max rested and the update is in 5 days starting 2morrow

radiant flame
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Given graids give double rewards

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So each rest is worth the same as 2 rests right now

pseudo atlas
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it's the same either way in theory

thin token
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when he was talking about it he only mentioned chaos so idk for guardian raid

radiant flame
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For guardian raid you should rest

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Its better

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Because you get the chance at bonus

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and you do not lose loot efficiency

rose wren
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u lose 1days worth then start gaining rest each time

radiant flame
thin token
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well yea he also said straight up rest everything if ur 1580+

radiant flame
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Feel like that should have been qualified in your original answer lol

pseudo atlas
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2 days rest + 3rd day run = 4/6 rewards
1 day rest + 2nd day run = 2/3 rewards
should be identical for guardian raids, but for chaos they said they're considering changing loot so it's hard to say

radiant flame
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I was thinking zeals would not be saying that

radiant flame
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So the rest you gain now is worth double

pseudo atlas
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they're doubling loot but surely they're also reducing required rest to 1 per day

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it's identical

radiant flame
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?

pseudo atlas
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are they not keeping it so that it takes 1 day of rest to get 1 rest bonus?

radiant flame
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No?

pseudo atlas
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wtf

radiant flame
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Because that would not make sense

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Because rest would be 100% efficiency

pseudo atlas
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no, it would be identical to now

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as i said a few lines up

radiant flame
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You run guardian once a day

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So you only gain 10 rest/ day

pseudo atlas
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...wait i think i fucked up severely

radiant flame
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Do you follow me now?

pseudo atlas
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no i need to back up 5 steps and think thoroughly

radiant flame
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Next week, guardian raids are essentially double loot per soul

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So each rested soul next week is worth two souls right now

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And that’s for basic rewards

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Not even counting that souls have a chance of dropping the reward shard

pseudo atlas
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no wait, it's 1 day for 1/2 a rest, but it's still the same result
skip 2 days, do 1 day, you get 4/6 loot, i just fucked up the logic

radiant flame
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Yes.

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From next week that’s right

pseudo atlas
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so then it's identical

radiant flame
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Yes

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But right now

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You get more rest

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From next week it takes two days to get one soul

pseudo atlas
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but each rest is worth half as much, because you still need to do 2 rest days per 1 run day

radiant flame
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?

pseudo atlas
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if the rewards are doubled then the 1 soul after patch is worth the same as 2 souls pre-patch

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the only thing that changes is time spent

radiant flame
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So right now you do not lose any efficiency

pseudo atlas
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but you're saying it's better somehow to rest now

radiant flame
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Resting

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It is

pseudo atlas
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it's identical no matter what

radiant flame
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It’s not

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  1. By resting now you gain time (you are not doing guardian raids)
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  1. You do not lose rewards - your rested souls are worth double post patch so you get the same basic rewards you would have got if you did 2x normal raids now
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  1. Souls post patch can drop the bonus reward (gold/cards/etc)
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post patch the rest efficiency is the same

midnight nimbus
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Is this right?

Option A: do 2x GR each, Friday to Tuesday. Do 1x GR daily after the patch (unrested)

Option B: do 0x GR, Friday to Tuesday. Do 1x GR daily after the patch (5 days of rested)

pseudo atlas
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okay i crunched some numbers and it is better to rest all guardian raids now

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sorry for the confusion

radiant flame
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It’s okay - probably explained it badly

pseudo atlas
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but apparently the loot after patch is slightly better

midnight nimbus
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How about for Chaos Dungeons? More efficient to keep doing them unrested? (assuming you have the time)

radiant flame
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You’ll get more basic rewards

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But at 1580 you get a new chaos dungeon post patch which will have more rewards

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So that will offset the efficiency loss

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Combined with the chance of bonus loot

midnight nimbus
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Got it, ty ❤️

cloud pendant
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Erm I just KT my alt to elgacia. How do I go there now? Lol

pseudo atlas
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you should have the elgacia song

cloud pendant
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Oh ok I forgot about the song lol

warm thorn
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Is it better to wait for jumpstart server before going hard into progging gear? Been playing for the past month and half but only doing horizontal content

shy chasm
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Probably

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Cuz if you just started a week ago and only done horizontal content haven't gotten far

warm thorn
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Oh - been doing this for 1.5 months

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Since they've been announcing progression changes... but it looks like a lot of the help is in the new jumpstart server, meaning all that horizontal stuff is wasted unless they do a merge into regular servers 😦

shy chasm
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Ok so what ilvl are you

rose jewel
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you realize that jump server is going to be 100% isolated from all other servers and regions right

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so, if 10 people go there because "oh easier honing ez" you will be playing with those same 10 people

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no market, at all, unless there are a lot of people pumping a lot of stuff

warm thorn
rose jewel
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we dont know jack about it in extreme detail, its an experiment from ags

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no region matchmaking, no market

warm thorn
rose jewel
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we can not recommend something we know nothing about but what is written in the roadmap

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and if you were to ask me if its worth it or not, i will be 51% inclined in no, not worth

shy chasm
rose jewel
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maybe they surprise us and tell us more details and it turns out to be actually decent, or maybe its total trash

shy chasm
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was considering since they hadnt made much progress ot wouldnt matter

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apart from the horizontal ig

rose jewel
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but if a lot of people are not interested, you are going to attempt to matchmake or party finder with ....

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no one, at all

shy chasm
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well ig it will be one of those well have to wait to see how it turns out then

rose jewel
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that is exactly my point

warm thorn
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True - it's all speculation at this point

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just wanted more educated guesses, but I guess unless they give some clarification

rose jewel
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its literally all guesses

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this is something 100% new to literally everyone

warm thorn
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though in the end like you guys said, the more established players won't likely move anyways

rose jewel
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we can not say "this is going to turn out this way"

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because we know nothing about it

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if you asked me tho "will you try it out?" my answer is fast and clear

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fuck no

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i have enough trying to hone in the og

shy chasm
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might also turn to to be another eu west Deadge when the hype dies down

rose jewel
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at least euw is merging

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they took their sweet time tho

dreamy bluff
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akkan comes with new stones right?

rose jewel
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and its not even with akkan lmao

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its on the 30th

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stones?

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hone mats?

dreamy bluff
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yea

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guardian/destro stones

warm thorn
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Meh, I'll stay the course I guess. Just wished they didn't go with that route and just made the prog changes apply to all servers instead

rose jewel
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then yes

dreamy bluff
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i know there is another tier out in korea but idk what iLevel it starts at

little musk
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Hello I was wondering if anyone could help. I'm trying to start the Elgacia storyline. I'm at the point where I need to do the BLue-Blazing Blade quest. The questline starts with the quest "The South Sea Island" quest. When I go there the npc cindy tells me to go to vern castle and talk to Sebastian the parrotbill. He is no where to be found in vern castle. Tried customer support and they told me to come here.

heady hollow
rose jewel
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there is not another tier in kr

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that's fake news

dreamy bluff
rose jewel
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their latest "material tier" is literally what we will get in 6 days

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if im not entirely stupid

heady hollow
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i think they have one more above akkan right?

rigid plank
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No

rose jewel
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they are people of culture lmao

dreamy bluff
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talking about these guys. the patch didnt mention anything about them.(this is what we have)

heady hollow
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hmm, im probably misremembering the icons for th e mats then

dreamy bluff
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i know, im just wondering when they start dropping. 1580 or 1600

heady hollow
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1580

dreamy bluff
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ty

rose jewel
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@little musk so

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you got the quest accepted right? you got the quest tracked right?

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you are doing everything on the same character right?

dreamy bluff
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if you start a prerequisite quest on another char, you most likely have to finish that quest on the other char to unlock the next quest in that chain

rose jewel
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well if someone can help him, ima go play something .-.

heady hollow
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thats all you signum

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i dont help with quest stuff OMEGALUL too lazy

rose jewel
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i just dislike people asking for something and yeeting for 1hr or more

dreamy bluff
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i was also lost trying to unlock Elgacia too. apparently i had the quest started on an alt months ago and didnt feel like finishing it so i just unchecked it. turned out it was a prerequisite to the elgacia quest

rose jewel
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i had a dude which asked something, i answered minutes later and he answered to ask something again 3 days later

little musk
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sorry @rose jewel was taking the dog out

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mind if i dm you?

rose jewel
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i dont answer dms for security reasons sorry

heady hollow
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can i dm you signum peepoShy

rose jewel
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right click

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blocked

heady hollow
little musk
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ok well the problem is i can't accept the south sea island quest because I need to talk to Sebastian in vern castle but he isnt there

rose jewel
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give me 5

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imin a raid

little musk
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npo

rose jewel
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do you have any other accepted quests on any char in your roster

little musk
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I think i found it out

finite stream
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can you get banned if someone leaves before gate 2 starts?

little musk
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For some stupid reason theres a questline that isnt accounted for in the prereq for elgacia and it says its in one location when it's in another random ass place

rose jewel
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that's fearmongering to the next level

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why would you get banned for someone dcing or leaving

rose jewel
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it could be a lot more informative and full about what you need to do/clear

midnight trellis
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can someone explain what a reclear is?

rose jewel
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re
clear

brittle sparrow
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when was new characters starts gaining rest bonus ?

rose jewel
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clear more than 1

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you already cleared

rose jewel
brittle sparrow
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i see ty

rose jewel
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so, first seconds of gameplay

rose jewel
finite stream
rose jewel
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why do you wanna ban him

dreamy bluff
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did someone leave your group or are you trying to leave before g2?

rose jewel
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did he tell you all to f*ck off and left on purpose?

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did he get dc?

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did he tell you he had an emergency or something?

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from this question i can assume someone left on valtan g2

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reason? unknown

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but he wanna get him banned for leaving?

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i think?

dreamy bluff
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and did said person say they were going to leave after g1
were they being toxic or were people being toxic against them
did he dc
did he have emergency.
there are alot of reason someone might leave. not sure why ur first thought is he they can be banned unless they did something really bad

finite stream
rose jewel
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that is quite obvious, but why

finite stream
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im just asking

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can they get banned?

rose jewel
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but why

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what did he do to you

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what did he say to you

shut pasture
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Is it inconvenient to you and your group for that to happen? Yes, but it is by far not a bannable offense

fiery hazel
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Even bannable offenses in the game are not bannable apparently shruge

rose jewel
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the ags special

pseudo atlas
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you absolutely cannot be banned just for leaving a group, that'd be absurd

finite stream
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I meant like u do g1, then leave without saying anything before g2 starts

rigid plank
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they've already told you no

rose wren
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but there's a section to report game hindrance

rose jewel
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doubt they'll do anything about it

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DCs happen to everyone, unfortunate but it happens

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if he ever gets dced out the game (game's fault, coz it's quite often and quite normal) i don't think he wants to get banned

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if he had proof of the guy leaving on purpose or something, yeah report his ass

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otherwise, just take the L and find another body

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not like you will get your account bricked or will lose on 10M gold for being jailed in a valtan run

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happened to a lot of people

bold geyser
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Is the only way to get additional character slots to buy the slot pass? And it's only buyable w/ royal crystals?

pseudo atlas
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yes and yes

bold geyser
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thanks ❤️

grand hinge
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Need someone to help me with a ban appeal i recently got banned on lost ark for charge back insta perma ban complete mistake and miss understanding pls help

rose jewel
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?support

sage duneBOT
rose jewel
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first, we are a community discord, second, bans can only be appealed via tickets

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not even CMs will help you

grand hinge
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thats not what i meant

rose jewel
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literally no one in here can, even if we wanted to

grand hinge
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i meant if anyone had the same experience happen to them and got themselves unbanned

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to pls help me with mine

rose jewel
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shoulda asked that

regal swallow
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1580+ start resting tomorrow correct?

rose jewel
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i believe yes, today is the last day you do runs

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actually

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you can rest all your chars

regal swallow
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ayo say less

rose jewel
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remember we also get the chaos dun update

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imagine getting the jackpot

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100k right out of nowhere

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(if we actually get that as well, which we should, but)

regal swallow
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is that the relic acc update thing or something else?

rose jewel
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no, the fragments of destiny or some shit

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literally 100k raw gold from a box lucky drop from either chaos or guardians

regal swallow
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oh stonks

rose jewel
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legendary cards, 2M silver, 100k gold and some other shit

regal swallow
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zinnervale #69 nice

rose jewel
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of course those are the biggest amounts but you can also get some 20k gold or 50k or 10k

golden vale
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is it worth using all 9 of my legendary selection just to hit LoS x18?

rose jewel
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nope

golden vale
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okaaay

rose jewel
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unless you dont see yourself playing long term

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otherwise big fat no

golden vale
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follow up question
is it worth to use those 9 to finish deep dive x30?

heady hollow
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no

rose jewel
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no

golden vale
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okaaay

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thank you thank you

bold geyser
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is there any way at all to change the camera zoom controls? my mouse wheel is busted and the camera keeps going haywire on me

gaunt condor
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Please explain to me whats Yoz jar??

rose jewel
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you may need to use an external program to change the keys

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you cant switch things ingame, for some stupid reason

hollow sleet
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hell all, logged in for the first time in 4 or 5 months to check out the slayer, thought we got a free punika pass but don't see one anywhere. I've had my account since launch and have bought stuff before so I should be trusted. was the punika pass timed or something and it's too late to get?

rose jewel
bold geyser
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is that, uh, allowed

gaunt condor
rose jewel
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its probably in a grey area, dont use anything fancy, even some official mouse programs like logitech i think? lets you change things

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im no expert tho

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never used one

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but i dont doubt a lot of people do use one for a reason or another

bold geyser
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i just want to stop zooming in on my character randomly 🙂

rose jewel
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like switching awakening key or things like that

rose wren
bold geyser
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k

rose jewel
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there is your confirmation

rose jewel
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literally, check ALL characters

pseudo atlas
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it would be really annoying if they tried to ban you for remapping kb/m controls externally

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imagine all the things controller players can do with steam mapping

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like my g spam macro (now useless) and enter spam macro

rose wren
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y u need enter key spam?

pseudo atlas
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for the confirmation prompts

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although half of them are now impossible to hit enter on

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and some of the uses are now defunct as well, like using cards

pallid panther
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If i get a powerpass accepted in my e-mail i can use it in another server for same region ? or its in the one you claimed

Assuming have two roosters.

rose jewel
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supposedly its region wide now, assuming event pass

candid panther
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hey guys is this a skin we can get on global ingame? it’s in the character creator but i have no idea where to get it

karmic ferry
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What is the easist continents to do?

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i want purify rune 😦

ember pewter
floral saffron
jade charm
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anyone know how to turn off the blue 'ping' like icon when supports drop their ground buffs?

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used to never see it

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nvm found it

tulip raft
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If I change the name of a character in my roster, can I change my name of another character on the same roster to that name? Or does it go into the waiting room for 60 or so days

rose jewel
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if char is lv10 or less its instant, 11+ 60 days

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but idk about name changing the lv10

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guess it should work

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normally people just delete the lv10

tulip raft
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The character that has the name I would like is lvl 50, rip

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Yeah I know people usually delete it, but I wanna keep the character just transfer the name

bold forge
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When making a build, the thing I should start with I think must be the stone right? and from the stone, I start building the accessories or am I missing something ?

civic yoke
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can you play deadeye only pistol? if yes, can you do it in pvp as well?

pseudo atlas
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there is an entire class engraving called pistoleer, so

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dunno about how good it is in pvp

rigid plank
shy yarrow
bold forge
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Thanks guys. Will do

solar echo
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Oh nvm.

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Rest gauge will be full for next reset right?

floral saffron
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if you start rested after today's ppl will have full gauge for new chaos/new guardian

night radish
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is finishing regions the fastest way to roster lvl up?

floral saffron
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if you have the means to adventure tome and other side contents also give a good chunk of it

midnight nimbus
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Is there a keybind for "start autorun?" And maybe "stop autorun?" I only see a toggle button

minor igloo
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And the toggle is T

midnight nimbus
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I want to spam a button that will make me autorun

minor igloo
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That would be your mouse key, good sir. You spam that to do the running that you are describing

midnight nimbus
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As it is, it makes me stutterstep I guess

shy yarrow
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hold it down shruge

midnight nimbus
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Yeah but sometimes I need my cursor to navigate reddit and YouTube on the other screen

shy yarrow
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there is a setting that lets you go in the direction you were facing, so you can alt tab and autorun in that direction

minor igloo
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Just autorun and click at that direction and your character will be moving in that direction

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But what you are asking for, is autoplay

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Which no, we do not have

minor igloo
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You have to manually steer your character from time to time to get from point a to point b with autorun

minor briar
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this one is way better

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wait nvm i read it wrong

midnight nimbus
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It's not autoplay, it's just "spam one button 5x without thinking" vs "spend 2 braincells to remember if I left autorun on or not"

minor briar
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i like the cursor auto run one

minor igloo
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Yes, that is autorun toggle T

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The way you check if you have it on or off is to not click your mouse

shy yarrow
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theres 2 options, one you press t and click the direction you wanna go, the other is press t and point with cursor where you want to go

minor igloo
#

And see if your character is still moving

shy yarrow
#

or you just click/hold m1/2 and ignore both of those

minor briar
shy yarrow
#

theres no other options so pick one

minor igloo
#

But to answer your question, the toggle is your autorun on and off. There is no indicator on screen as to whether it is active or not.

floral saffron
#

what about 251 times

midnight nimbus
#

Well I guess my question was answered. Game doesn't have the feature I want, oh well. Tiny little qol thing, anyway

minor briar
#

ur complaining about nothing

minor igloo
#

It does have a button. Just that it is a toggle button. Like in WoW, the autorun was also a toggle.

midnight nimbus
#

It's not a big deal at all. I asked if I can do a thing, but I can't. Really small thing that barely matters lol

minor igloo
#

And we're telling you that you can. Just not to the level of specificity that you might be looking for.

solar echo
#

Better to transfer +20 relic to +12 ancient, than to push relic a bit further to transfer to +13/14 ancient right?

minor briar
#

yes

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don’t go past 20

minor igloo
minor briar
#

very unworth

minor igloo
#

Tapping to +21 gives 2.5 ilvl iirc but it is a lower chance and way more cost

solar echo
#

ok thanks.

#

Trying to practice prokel in trixion

#

It's really hard for me.

minor briar
#

ye, it’s hard on ilvl

#

but wd can do it fairly well

heady hollow
#

slayer also ezpz

solar echo
#

Even with the huge animation locks?

minor igloo
#

Prokel is a battle of patience

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You attack after his wind up

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And spin him into a forced animation lock

shy yarrow
#

remember that you dont have any sidereal, outside head knockdowns or dps increases either

#

if you can consistently get him down to like 40 bars then youll be fine in the real raid

solar echo
#

I suspect I haven't done enough horizontals, as I can't meet the enrage timer.

minor igloo
#

Prokel training is more to introduce you to his potential patterns

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Not so much to kill him

shy yarrow
#

very few things besides skill points actually increase your dmg besides basic stats from horizontal

solar echo
#

I'm missing the runes

#

wealth, galeforce etc

minor igloo
#

The best practice for prokel is to go in with no pots and see how long you can last

solar echo
#

i'll try that

minor igloo
#

Then you can identify which patterns are the chip patterns and which are the ohshit patterns

shy yarrow
#

they will make it easier for sure

floral saffron
#

im excited to learn aero prokel POGGIES

solar echo
#

why is there no practice for other mechanics too

minor igloo
#

Because other mechanics require the hands of more than just yourself

#

Kayangel story dungeon is practice for the actual abyssal dungeon. But people still grief the mech.

floral saffron
#

the practice is doing the raid itself

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it isnt too bad

minor igloo
#

Go in, chop chop, use atro, win

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And then do it again as a support and mald at your group instead

midnight nimbus
floral saffron
#

ok

minor igloo
#

Yes, and we are telling you that lost ark has the same function

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It is the keybind T

floral saffron
#

you press t to start it and press t to stop it Corpa

karmic ferry
#

ty guys!

#

Another question, if my stone isnt 9/7 is it worth upgrading it? Whats the health boost lookin like

minor igloo
#

You can use your gold elsewhere

midnight nimbus
#

...pretty sure it doesn't. It has "toggle autorun," but not specifically "start autorun" or "stop autorun."

I'm fine with toggle if I have to tho

minor igloo
#

Toggling is start and stop

karmic ferry
#

ty

shy yarrow
#

yes, the toggle is on or off, start or stop, go or not

floral saffron
minor igloo
#

Hence the word toggle. But if you want to over complicate it, then yes we cannot JUST start autorun and JUST stop autorun

floral saffron
#

its not something you go for anyways

#

unless you plan on spending 100s of thousands of gold

hollow sleet
#

so I just came back to the game after a few month break. I went to use the slayer punika powerpass and couldn't find it on any character. I talked to support and they told me it expired in my mail (which I never saw, because I haven't been playing) and they can't restore it. has this happened to anyone else, and any luck getting them to restore it?

night radish
#

tips on how to unjail in g2 valtan :p

rose jewel
#

git gudder

#

not much you can do, find a body

night radish
#

got dc 1 min before we kill him

rose jewel
#

or

#

find a whole 7 other bodies

night radish
#

ok brb imma spawn them

floral saffron
#

ppl get jailed g2 a good bit

#

it wont be that hard to find someone

night radish
#

i hope so :p

minor igloo
#

Just clear as 7 sweats

rose jewel
oak flower
#

or wait until next week and see if you get any other free passes

floral saffron
#

so it still expired wednesday

minor igloo
#

Worse case scenario as 7 is to break the first armour and thirain the second and all 7 with nahun's energy. Alot slower but very doable

rose jewel
#

well gg then

floral saffron
#

we'll be getting a new express/power pass next week tho with hopefully the same requriement @hollow sleet

hollow sleet
#

yeah I just wanted to be able to check out both slayer and aeromancer, guess im out of luck though

#

what a weird system

karmic ferry
#

DO unique mobs spawn if i kill a pack? Trying to get #4 from ankumo mountain and theres only 1 location but its not spawning

dreamy bluff
#

unique mobs usually spawn in the same spot after they are killed. they have specific spawning spots. if someone else killed it just wait a min or so and it will spawn again

narrow vine
#

Is there any way to actually get in contact with the amazon support? I got hacked off by 3.5m worth of stuff and just get an automated reply trough mail

rigid plank
#

?support

sage duneBOT
rigid plank
#

thats ur best place to look

narrow vine
#

Ah Yeah just an automated answer from There sadly. Frustrating as hell having to quit cuz of this. I can’t recover from 4k hours of grinding and just start over :/

cloud pendant
#

does mobalytics provide better explanaiton or maxroll for kayangel raid

tranquil prairie
#

Do people still do beginner endgame content without using the powerpasses?
playing through the game with a friend

rigid plank
#

There's still people that do, yes

tranquil prairie
#

ok tysm

zealous ibex
#

what does this mean?

#

he was pining this and people were saying done

#

i was so confused on what was happening

radiant flame
#

You were in a bus

#

(a carry)

#

The driver is asking people to pay for the bus by listing junk accessories (other times gems will be used) for the passengers to buy

zealous ibex
radiant flame
#

Its in the auction house

#

you search for it

left skiff
#

I just reached 1420 gear level and wanna do a legion raid but how can i get a party because it seems that everyone is just playing the hard ones

maiden locust
left skiff
#

bruh no way i can get that high

maiden locust
#

1 hone is 2.5 ilvl, there was an event to 1460 and there will be one next week to 1540

#

it basically gives you everything for it

left skiff
#

i do have the hyper expess but i already ran out of leapstones

radiant flame
#

So get more leapstones

#

From current maharaka event

#

Unas

maiden locust
#

yup you need more mats, get a friend to give them, use events, activities campaign dailies

radiant flame
#

Your other weeklies, dailies

frosty fog
#

Wahts a good way to gear up alts

maiden locust
#

or wait till next week, even easier

frosty fog
#

Hmm Yea me only got 1 main

maiden locust
#

for t3 mostly gotta funnel from main back to alts

frosty fog
#

And I need to work on alts to get more stuff anyway

maiden locust
#

free event next week

frosty fog
#

Yea ik

maiden locust
#

pass to 1415 and event to 1540

#

thats the slow but low effort way for quick alts

#

its not worth doing alts till patch tho tbh

#

all alts will be quicker

frosty fog
#

Idk I have some mats saved up ages ago

maiden locust
#

T1 and T2s?

#

you get 2 free vern powerpasses

radiant flame
#

Just wait until next week

maiden locust
#

thats 2 alts if you have T1 and 2 mats and dont wanna wait

frosty fog
#

Don't got vern power pass lol

maiden locust
#

you get 2 in the mail with your first lvl 50

frosty fog
#

Ganna have to knowlage transfer

left skiff
#

what is the average rate of like leapstones per hour because i get like none

maiden locust
#

unless they turned it off

maiden locust
#

chaos is 2x per day

#

you get fat payout in one go

radiant flame
left skiff
#

like all the guardians chaos etc

frosty fog
#

My guardian raids are maxed rest I wanna save them for patch

frosty fog
maiden locust
radiant flame
maiden locust
#

so 20-30 a day from dailies

radiant flame
#

And that’s fine

maiden locust
#

event gives 100 a week atm

radiant flame
#

Take it easy

left skiff
#

my una dailies dont give any though

radiant flame
maiden locust
#

if you do the una dailies that give leaps

#

you do

left skiff
#

yeah i mean none of them have leapstones in them for a reward

maiden locust
#

thats not true

#

you would have at least 5-10 of them that do with a pass

#

id suggest you may not be looking ni the right spot

frosty fog
#

Well i'mma just level up my paladin so he can get the hyper express

maiden locust
#

you would have frozen sea one, and the two feiton ones

midnight nimbus
#

Feiton feiton mokomoko unas

maiden locust
#

pass goes to 1415

#

which makes event ready

frosty fog
#

Yea il get my paladin there

left skiff
#

i only have honor shards in them

maiden locust
#

is it close?

radiant flame
frosty fog
#

My main it's soon 1490

maiden locust
frosty fog
#

And my alt got power pass and chosen gear so just need to hone some

maiden locust
#

1415 full relic

#

they could be weird and do 1340 pass but not likely cos theyd have to redesign the KR hyper then

radiant flame
maiden locust
#

and the gem structure and 5x3 is the same

minor briar
maiden locust
#

why would they design a new event

#

makes no sense

radiant flame
#

They did for the last one

frosty fog
#

Me mainly hyped for destany fragments looks sick

maiden locust
radiant flame
#

Slayer hyper express was based on KR’s Aero, but we got no level 5 tripods

#

So no, it didn’t copy it

maiden locust
#

slight reward variation but numbers were similar

radiant flame
#

So not exactly the same

#

Therefore, some slight redesign

minor briar
#

we got 1 lvl 5

maiden locust
#

course we wouldnt get their 1490 slayer pass when our game progression was slower

radiant flame
radiant flame
#

Please do not state things as fact when we don’t know them

maiden locust
#

your being combative, if you had to make an educated guess based off of the fact they have presented odds are that it will be 1415 pass unless they extend the floor of the event

radiant flame
#

I understand it’s likely to be similar to what KR got

#

But say that

#

Don’t state it as fact

maiden locust
#

i never said it was fact, i said this is what KR got so its highly likely immediately after

radiant flame
radiant flame
maiden locust
radiant flame
#

? Where was the elaboration before I asked you about it

#

You only elaborated because I pointed it out

maiden locust
#

where i was typing the continuation of my message but you cut me off to challenge me

radiant flame
#

Ok

floral saffron
radiant flame
#

Yeah, I accept that

maiden locust
#

actually i was right it is fact anyways

#

1340 = punika pass

#

1415

#

according to the naming convention they have used

radiant flame
#

No?

#

South vern powerpass in game goes to 1370

#

The one you can purchase

maiden locust
#

yes they have ALWAYS refferred to hyper express passes

#

as punika for 1340

#

cos they didnt have SV completed

minor briar
#

ye, there are multiple types of punika and svern, 1302 and 1340, then 1370 and 1415 ones

maiden locust
#

this 1415 pass does

radiant flame
#

?

#

It doesn’t say 1415

maiden locust
#

the purchased ones have never been the same

#

as the free ones

minor briar
#

ye it has?

#

we've gotten 1302 pp's before

maiden locust
#

but the naming of the 1340 ones were Punika espress

radiant flame
#

Ok? But we’ve never received a free south vern pass before

minor briar
#

it hasnt always been 1340

radiant flame
#

^

maiden locust
#

for the event

minor briar
#

and?

radiant flame
#

Ok! I get that! But we are not KR

maiden locust
#

it was called south vern pass

radiant flame
#

Look, all I am saying is that it is not our job to both speculate and state that as fact

maiden locust
#

again if you make a logical conclusion if you cant say with at least a 90% certainty that its not a 1340 pass and most likely a 1415 pass you are trolling, why would they make the pass only 1370 and extend the mats out below that

radiant flame
#

Do you realise “90% certainty” is an oxymoron?

maiden locust
#

have you ever heard of educated guesses? that we make ALL the time about this game

radiant flame
#

Right, so say so

#

I don’t care what you say if you qualify it as “this is what I think, based on x y z”

#

But that is not what you said

#

On two occasions

maiden locust
#

I can say what I like the need to necessitate hyper specific information as if its legally binding is ridiculous

left skiff
#

thanks y'all i got some leapstones now

maiden locust
#

i havent broken a rule, get off my ass

radiant flame
# maiden locust i havent broken a rule, get off my ass

I think if you read through the conversation, you will see that I haven’t really been confrontational, or told you to stop. I simply wanted (you) to point out that what you are stating as fact has not been confirmed by AGS. This matters because new players come here and perhaps do not understand that we are not an official discord so therefore the information provided here is also not official. Worst case scenario - people are misled here and it negatively impacts their game experience.

maiden locust
left skiff
#

is honing rigged

heady hollow
#

nope

maiden locust
#

o7 wondering if anyone could give me a hand at Rudric

heady hollow
#

one day, you will miss the current honing rates you are experiencing

left skiff
#

i mean no way i can lose a 25% 17 times in a row

heady hollow
#

most of the people here

#

are honing at 3% and below

radiant flame
#

as you reach pity in about 9 fails

left skiff
#

it is i get the one guaranteed then always lose again

heady hollow
#

welcome to rng GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

radiant flame
#

It all evens out in the end

radiant flame
maiden locust
#

thank ya sorry im just really new x'D and idk if my server is like very popular i barely see anyone

heady hollow
#

you wont see people until you are level 50+ and in main cities

maiden locust
#

is just doing msq the best way to lvl up?

heady hollow
#

yes, outside of using a powerpass

pallid panther
#

Is it worth it to get all characters 1490 ? (outside of the rooster) considering just the oreha price.

heady hollow
#

yes imo

#

doesnt cost any gold

maiden locust
#

how much is it?

heady hollow
#

so technically the only price is oreha

left skiff
#

arethe wartorn xp potions worth to use on main or can you even use them on others

heady hollow
# maiden locust how much is it?

unfortunately you just missed a powerpass a co uple days ago, but there will be another one coming out for free on the 16th (next wednesday)

heady hollow
#

main or alt, up to u

maiden locust
#

Thank you! sorry for being so uh, uninformed

heady hollow
#

its fine, we all were at some point Ok

radiant flame
#

?trusted

sage duneBOT
maiden locust
#

What happens if its not?

#

oh

radiant flame
#

The last free powerpass was based on your trusted status

maiden locust
#

ill go to the thing

radiant flame
#

And I think they suggested that future powerpasses will be given on the same basis (though can’t remember where)

#

In any case, being trusted is important so you can use the market

#

It can take a bit of time

#

So best to get on it now

#

I think you will have needed to have spent some money on steam in the past

#

(Just steam, doesn’t have to be on lost ark)

maiden locust
#

got cha ive had my steam for awhile so i should be okay ill set up the 2fa

radiant flame
#

And yeah, always good to ask questions. But there are good resources out there too. Maxroll is still okay for some general guides about game mechanics. For class builds, the community guides are the best.

#

To access the guides use the command /classname

#

So like /bard

#

You’re tagged as artist so this might help

lavish groveBOT
#
The Ultimate Artist Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Artist class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

radiant flame
#

Anyway, mainly for endgame builds

#

The maxroll levelling stuff is fine

maiden locust
#

thanks! i am playing an artist right now i like the support idea of it as ilike playing supports

#

is that the best support?

heady hollow
#

best is subjective

#

all supports are good

#

and will be accepted

radiant flame
#

^

#

Artist is a bit funky

#

Paladin is probably the easiest/most useful all round support - arguably the best in a general scenario

#

Because paladin is inherently tanky, and has some of the easiest buffing

#

but that’s being hypercritical of the other supports (bars and artist)

#

As day said they are all good

#

You will almost never be rejected for being the “wrong” support class

maiden locust
#

is there one that like actually heals ?

heady hollow
#

all of them heal

maiden locust
#

oh

#

cx maybe im just not very far in playing artist right now

#

i mean im not really

radiant flame
#

Healing in this game is primarily through the identity mechanic

#

It’s not like other MMOs where your regular skills heal

#

Healing is kind of secondary to what a support does in lost ark. Your main role is to maintain attack buffs

#

You will also help mitigate damage by shield/damage reduction skills

maiden locust
#

got cha 😮

radiant flame
#

Healing is semi-emergency

#

For Artist and bard, this is because healing consumes their identity which could be used for more attack buffs

heady hollow
#

me when my teammates dont grab my artist balls MadgeClap

radiant flame
#

Paladin has it easy because his identity is a healing/attack buff aura so he doesn’t have to choose

#

Paladin also has healing attached to a basic skill, iirc

#

But I don’t play him

heady hollow
maiden locust
#

Thanks! thats super helpful

heady hollow
#

after the shield goes, it heals

maiden locust
#

i apreciate how helpful yall are

radiant flame
#

That’s what we try to do! There’s a lot of stuff to learn but most of us here do enjoy the game, particularly the combat

#

It’s tough for new players but we can do our best to try help. It really helps to have people to play with, so once you hit raids and stuff, try to find an active guild/group of people to play with if you don’t have one already

winter lantern
#

Is there any scrapper build which is considered the „best“

lavish groveBOT
#
The Ultimate Scrapper Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Scrapper class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

left skiff
#

what does this mean

civic arch
left skiff
#

i see

civic arch
#

pretty much you can get the materials etc but wont get any gold

#

or well les

radiant flame
#

Shock is burst and might do a bit more damage in a raid scenario, but it can feel very slow

#

Taijutsu is much more fast paced and has really good utility in stagger and weak point

#

I personally think Taijutsu is very fun to play

#

And should be getting a pretty noticeable buff soon

winter lantern
outer mason
winter lantern
#

50/50 sounds good

radiant flame
#

I play 70 Swift. But it’s not worth it

#

Go 50/50

charred sorrel
#

do we start resting from today if we're 1580?

outer mason
balmy plank
#

Math is hard but yes. You should rest now if you want to

charred sorrel
#

thanks just making sure

#

could do without the snark, have had a bad day

balmy plank
#

Harsh. I apologize for calling out the inability to count to 5. May your rested bonus' bring you big gold

left skiff
#

if i create a relic headpiece but my legendary head piece is higher level can i fuse them somehow to make the relic the same level as my legendary?

balmy plank
#

Yes. You should use the Gear Transfer option at the Honing Vendor

left skiff
#

thanks

balmy plank
#

Itll bump your relic to the same ilvl so no loss

left skiff
#

I gota message that transferring to the next gear is recommended before continuing with a item called relic brelshaza gear should i ignore it or is it actually important

balmy plank
#

You can largely ignore it. At 1490 you can swap to a newer Ancient set again. But the cost to hnoe is the exact same

left skiff
#

alright ty

cloud solar
#

i created this week two chars to test them for the upcoming power pass (arcana & slayer), the arcana was straight lvl 50 after skipping the tutorial but the slayer is stuck in Rethramis with lvl 10. Is there any way to boost the slayer to lvl 50 as well?

radiant flame
#

You can Knowledge transfer the slayer if you want but as you say you’re getting another powerpass in like 5 days

cloud solar
#

oh ok, i wasnt aware that i had a powerpass but whatever, ill keep training the arcana in the stronghold then, thx!

pastel locust
#

Does anyone know the prerequisite for Nia rapport quest "Leadership 101" ?

#

Nagi doesnt appear at the location where shes supposed to be

orchid hemlock
#

Can I cancel (ship) dispatch mission? I have activated it accidentally

polar shard
#

How needed is cleanse rune for Akkan? Should I finish 5 igneas before the raid comes out

radiant flame
#

But yes I believe purify is very useful

jovial urchin
#

some people believe the earth is flat

dire wadi
#

we need to talk

outer mason
pastel locust
whole current
#

in brel g3 you go x3 +1 or x3

#

cuz ppl confuse me

outer mason
elder atlas
#

Hey all! I played LA back at launch and got to Argos Gate 2. Recently got back because of the Hyper Express Pass and got to South Vern. Not sure what to do now 😞 any help would be appreciated!

whole current
radiant flame
#

I have to say that I haven’t seen people get that wrong much in my parties

elder atlas
minor briar
#

there'll be a 1540 hyper u can use on ur main

#

u can maybe try valtan + vykas by then if u can get into learning parties in lfg discords

#

?lfg

sage duneBOT
#

We have lfgroup and lfstatic channels in each of our region categories (requires region role).
You can filter the postings by clicking on content relevant tags or even 'Learning Group'.
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Also check out some LFG/Learning dedicated Discords:
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elder atlas
elder atlas
minor briar
#

no

#

highest will be 1600, but most ppl will only be at 1580

#

but 1540 is still good

#

have access to 2nd "highest" raid

elder atlas
#

Thanks for the summary! I left around when South Vern was just coming out, and I'm surprised to see there's another region on top of South Vern!

minor briar
#

yes, u should have access to it if u do all the prequests for it

#

takes a while tho

vestal idol
#

for the upcoming express event can you transfer the honing rate boosts

#

as in you use the express event up to 1415 on one alt then transfer it to another

#

is 1415 the limit or is it higher?

shy chasm
#

1415 is usually the limit

shy chasm
#

oh

#

it will have a diff start point?

minor briar
#

kr starts at 1415

#

but that would mean transfer point is diff

shy chasm
#

but we getting 1490 no?

minor briar
#

but our current sv pass goes to 1370

#

its 1540

shy chasm
minor briar
#

where have u been

shy chasm
#

wait

#

so

#

like

#

1540 express Susge

#

not support to 1540

radiant flame
#

It sounds like 1540, with support beyond

#

It sounds like what KR just got with soul eater

#

But honestly, we have no official details beyond knowing that it goes up to at least 1540, gives 5x3, level 8 gems, and comes with an SV pass

shy chasm
radiant flame
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It may well be exactly like what KR got. But unless someone from AGS confirms, we will likely only know on Tuesday when patch notes hit

frosty fog
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soo waht whud be the best way to gear up alts for cheap to just do the legion raids on them

frosty fog
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well i am main support rn

radiant flame
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Otherwise gearing “alts” is no different from gearing a main

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Just because they’re an alt doesn’t mean they’ll get let into raids on more budget builds

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If you’re going to go through party finder just know that your alt could be competing against mains and better geared alts

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Otherwise find a guild or group of people who effectively trade carries in raids

radiant flame
whole current
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we getting all that next update ye ?

radiant flame
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Yes on Wednesday

frosty fog
radiant flame
frosty fog
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well imam need to gear them so they can do legion raids and better chaos tho ?

radiant flame
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I don’t really think just bussing alts is particularly fun. Given you are logging on the game to AFK and send your gold to other people.

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But you’re not doing the raids. You’re paying for busses

minor briar
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or dps

frosty fog
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i got 2 paladins rn i was trying out slayer but idk about that class

minor briar
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getting 4x3 shouldnt be too bad

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but at least u can share gems on pally

frosty fog
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wahts 4x3

minor briar
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4 engravings at lvl 3

junior pelican
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Wait, do we stop chaos/guardians today or is this the last day we do them?

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(For full rested at the update)

raven imp
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isnt here any lostark merchant discord where players offer acesories for more friendly values?.. 😄 looking for +6pred +3 rc/grudge/ambush one but cant find any, and if find it cost 100-200k... 😄

rigid plank
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The market is the best and only place, I strongly doubt player to player market barely exists plus it's unnecessary

raven imp
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ye understand ty, only asked, 🙂 hard to find that specific acesorie for me still, too rare, and if some1 drop put he put it for crazy amount,

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worst scenario is, i saw 1 like that 3days ago for 50k buyout, i missed 700 gold and until i get em which took me 40min some1 bough it... 😄

radiant flame
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And 6class/3relevant is very rare

raven imp
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ye understand they rare but that 100-200k ones siting on market for 1week allrdy from what i checking on every day.. so whats point of keeping that extremly price if no one buying it.

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while they can put it for half, exactly like some1 did 3day ago for 50k, and some1 bough it. 🙂

radiant flame
timber mauve
raven imp
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even i would buy it, but like i say missed 700g 😄 😄

timber mauve
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I sold a 6/3 for 150k after 17 days of listing.

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Whales will bite, that’s why they stay high.

radiant flame
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You just have to be realistic

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To avoid things like this you can plan your accessories differently

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Like using a 6/0 class accessory

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Or getting books

raven imp
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i planing, Point is, There is no real plan

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6/0 = 150k

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3+3 2x on difff acesorie = 150k

radiant flame
raven imp
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Books = 300k 😄

radiant flame
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6/0s are way cheaper now

timber mauve
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Unless it’s for slayer

radiant flame
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Even for slayer they’re cheaper. They’re not 150k

raven imp
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ye.. like u told me here many time.. predator.. 😄

timber mauve
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Yeah, they’re not that much, but still high.

radiant flame
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But I mean, you do need to plan

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There’s no alternative

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It sounds like you want to get a 6/3 without even planning around it

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Have you even cut the rock

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Got the neck

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Etc

raven imp
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i wanna it to finish 5x3.

timber mauve
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You trying to build a +2 or something?

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Oh

radiant flame
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You don’t need a 6/3 class piece for 5x3

raven imp
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then i need 2x +3 on other acesorie

timber mauve
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No you don’t monkaHmm

raven imp
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Which is same, because 5+3 pred cost 50-80k

radiant flame
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I would build around 6/0

raven imp
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I can finish 5x3 only with 7/7 stone 1 leg engrave and 6/0 neck ?

radiant flame
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Yes

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Easily

raven imp
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but need all ancient acesories right ?

radiant flame
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No

minor briar
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why 6/0 neck

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thats the worse acc to get class on

radiant flame
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6/0 anything

raven imp
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6 0 anything. understand it, 🙂

radiant flame
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You can get that with relics

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The 6/0 has to be ancient

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Because 6 only rolls ancient

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Everything else can be relic

raven imp
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Feel free to plan it for me if some1 have 1minute please ? 😄 really no brain for this planner

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actually no time to spend on it 1hour, 😄

radiant flame
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I mean, just try?

minor briar
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it takes 2 mins

radiant flame
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It’s maths

thin token
radiant flame
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Very basic maths

raven imp
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leg engrave is mass,

minor briar
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how have u not learnt from last time

raven imp
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ulti, i learned it, it just about every time i look on it i spending 30min with it 😄 😄 dont know if i dumb or..

radiant flame
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12+3, 7+3+5, 9+6

timber mauve
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To be fair, idk how to make builds either. I’m pretty dаmn bad at it KEKL

radiant flame
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the tool even adds for you

minor briar
thin token
minor briar
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theres really nothing else lol

radiant flame
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5+5+5

minor briar
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9+6 too ig

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in this case

radiant flame
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Already said above 👆

hot dock
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does anyone know where can I find Adventure: eye of the dead?

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i can't find anything on internet

timber mauve
minor briar
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oblivion isle

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find it in game

hot dock
minor briar
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not on google

hot dock
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hm? not the drop i have the map already

minor briar
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the location?

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show, i dont own it

raven imp
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well i still dumb from it.. no idea how to make 5x3 with 1 6/0 acesorie 7/7 stone and 1 leg engrave..

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think will take time till i figure it.. 😄

minor briar
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we told u alr

minor briar
hot dock
minor briar
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let him learn it next time

thin token
raven imp
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ty now i understand it.. i dint understand it bcs i couldnt find way only with 1 ancient and rest Relick acesories.

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so i need 3x ancient one. well 1monh of waiting anyway, no pheons for x3. 😄

minor briar
radiant flame
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Nobody plans every single accessory from the start and tunnel visions to those only. We generally have a good idea, cut the stone, and then focus on what class and necks are out there

raven imp
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its oki, ty all for help 🙂 i will learn it more in future.

radiant flame
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If we find a good class accessory that can work, other accessories get changed to compensate

raven imp
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Rest of acesories are easy to get, and not that exp, from what i looking on,