lost-ark-help

[radiant flame]

um

i assume this is a support

please tell me its a support

[stone fjord]

assume that THEORETICALLY its a dps xd

[floral saffron]

[radiant flame]

neither

you eat mana food

[floral saffron]

well step 1 is to stop pianoing ur skills

[dreamy heath]

ok thanks, ill give it a go planning that way. Is it worth just redoing stone and dropping cursed doll for adreneline do you think?

[radiant flame]

or get focus runes

[stone fjord]

but if you were forced to choose between those two :D which one would you choose

[radiant flame]

what class

you dont

[minor briar]

NONE

[stone fjord]

...

[floral saffron]

neither of them

ur a dps

[minor briar]

u go 2nm

jk

[radiant flame]

like, the question doesnt have an answer

[stone fjord]

mp efficiency does give you some extra dps tho 🤔

[floral saffron]

if you have that in a 5x3 thats the same as running 4x3

[radiant flame]

it doesnt

what is your class

[minor briar]

if ur fine with rolling a new rock

[stone fjord]

well the plan is emperor arcana but im still lvling

[minor briar]

HUH

[radiant flame]

rofl

[floral saffron]

[stone fjord]

i just don't like the idea of going nightmare bcs then the star card fucks me

[radiant flame]

what

[minor briar]

thats just the pains they go thru

[floral saffron]

"im too low on mana most of the time"
doesnt go the gearset that fixes that problem

[radiant flame]

literally best nightmare user in game

and....you want...mp efficiency holy

i think

maybe try it with nightmare

[stone fjord]

i asked a simple question and none of you answered instead just bullying me ;-;

thanks

[radiant flame]

if you are struggling ask in #arcana

[floral saffron]

mana issuses

[radiant flame]

we did answer, by telling you to not make a bad decision

[stone fjord]

i asked magick stream vs mp efficiency and you said neither xD

that wasn't part of the question

[floral saffron]

yeah

because thats the correct answer

[radiant flame]

like, it would be worse to let you build engravings with one of those engravings

[floral saffron]

a dps running etiher of those is a 1 way ticket to never getting in a raid ever

[stone fjord]

this community smh

[timber mauve]

Go necromancy while you’re at it.

[floral saffron]

[minor briar]

nah, go sa3

drain mana faster

[stone fjord]

gotta go meta bcs anything slightly worse is trolling :|

[radiant flame]

it is

you're playing in an mmo

[floral saffron]

its a lot worse

lmao

[radiant flame]

with group raid content

[floral saffron]

going that for a 5x3 is losing you a lot of dps

[radiant flame]

you're basically asking someone to carry your damage

[stone fjord]

how is it worse if it gives 10% extre cdr or 12% dps increase ;-;

[radiant flame]

because you dont want to use nightmare set

because you cant maintain magick stream smh

you wont get hit ever?

[stone fjord]

the ramp up doesnt take that long

[radiant flame]

lol

[minor briar]

12% vs a 16/18%? also mp eff has a condition

[floral saffron]

because the actual options are 18% or 16%

[radiant flame]

then i guess, you've spotted something

[floral saffron]

[minor briar]

other 16/18 dont

[floral saffron]

thats why

[stone fjord]

they also have downsides though

[radiant flame]

what the hell, what downsides

raid captain is unconditional for emperor

[dreamy heath]

whats stone cut is the minimum I need for this? On the accessorries should I be just looking at +3/+3 or will some need to be +5 dependant on stone

[floral saffron]

run hitmaster if you dont want mas increase or cd?

[radiant flame]

so is MI

[stone fjord]

i was thinking going this setup and the last one would be the mana one 🤔

also emperor as well obviously

[floral saffron]

and yeah

mayhem completely negates mass increase's atk speed debuff

[stone fjord]

it's not like mayhem is guarranteed tho :>

[floral saffron]

its a swiftness class

supports have yearning

those also negate mass increase's debuff

[radiant flame]

at this point - if you are set on apparently going fror this mana engraving

idk how we can help you

honestly, they are both completely trash

mp efficiency especially

[stone fjord]

i just wanted to know which one is the better one but I guess that's not gonna happen

[radiant flame]

i know magick stream is sometimes used on supports

[floral saffron]

boundless mp also negates mass increase's debuff

[radiant flame]

because it's semi useful if you can keep it from proccing

[valid tusk]

whats this for and how do we get the lazenith's pendant

[radiant flame]

the thing is

supports have amuch easier time avoiding damage

than dps

if you spend your whole time on a swiftness class dodging normal patterns

[minor briar]

world tree leaf

[tacit sable]

they arent

[valid tusk]

ah, how to get?

[radiant flame]

you are missing uptime

[valid tusk]

the pendant part

[floral saffron]

?

[minor briar]

only on pal, since not a melee distance support

[minor briar]

not sure tbh

[floral saffron]

mayhem + swiftness class + yearning + nightmare effectively gets rid of any debuffs from mass increase

[valid tusk]

dem

[tacit sable]

what

do you even play mayhem

[floral saffron]

im not talking about zerker bro lmao

mayhem is a card

[radiant flame]

he means the card

[tacit sable]

oh

[radiant flame]

on arcana

[floral saffron]

that arcana uses

[tacit sable]

oh okay, i was confused

[floral saffron]

[tacit sable]

[radiant flame]

typical zerk always thinking of himself

[floral saffron]

average zerk main fr

[tacit sable]

i mean i joined and read it without context

[stone fjord]

its the game being confused calling different things with the same name >.<

[tacit sable]

how am i suppose to do

[timber mauve]

Tbh, I was confused too and I’ve been here the whole time.

[floral saffron]

thats just you being you icy

[timber mauve]

[tacit sable]

there has been a little of too many mass increase for mayhem zerker lately

[timber mauve]

I did delete arcana at like 1415 ilvl.

[tacit sable]

[dreamy heath]

is 6/6 stone ok for 4/3 or nah

[tacit sable]

6/6 is fine

you will need 3/3 on every acc for 4x3

which is really easy to get

[floral saffron]

6/6 gets you everything but 5x3+2

[tacit sable]

later on the line you can try cutting 7/7 stone

[stone fjord]

so which one's better?

[tacit sable]

due to the recent update we have on ancient stone, the better your stone, the better benefit you get from it

[floral saffron]

neither of them.

there both incredibly bad

[floral saffron]

thats the only answer youll get because its the only true one.

[stone fjord]

just theoretically

[tacit sable]

theoretically you can try trixion

[floral saffron]

theoretically youll get perma gatekept from very raid

[stone fjord]

xd

what a great game

why do these even exist then

[minor briar]

MS is a pally engr

[floral saffron]

becuase supports can run me

[minor briar]

and mp eff is outdatd

[floral saffron]

and sometimes ms

[tacit sable]

they are there to make meta engravings worth a lot more in market

[minor briar]

never getting updated

[floral saffron]

bard can run mp

its not meta btu they can run it

[minor briar]

they just run max mp

instead

[vast oriole]

Bard run max mp not ms eff

[floral saffron]

oh wait ur right

[vast oriole]

And it is meta

[floral saffron]

i forgor max mp is a thing

[tacit sable]

this game's loot system is heavily weighted toward junk stuffs

thats why good stuffs are expensive

[radiant flame]

necromancy exists

try that

[floral saffron]

necromancy

precise dagger

[radiant flame]

clearly not pistoleer main

[tacit sable]

precise dagger actually isnt bad

[vast oriole]

At least pd is good on 1 build

[stone fjord]

thx for making fun of me for wanting to try something different

[floral saffron]

youre right i dont meta chase

[heady hollow]

i gatekeep pd,

[vast oriole]

Its better telling you to not do something then telling you "go for it" then you never get to enter a raid again

[tacit sable]

you can blame the game, theorycrafting for builds are pretty much almost nonexisted in this game, everyone wants to get stuffs done fast so nobody want to group with suboptional builds

[stone fjord]

why would that get gatekept though, just bcs of a 6% dmg decrease?

is it really that crazy?

[timber mauve]

Yes

[stone fjord]

or do people just don't care about non-best stuff

[floral saffron]

yes

lmao

[tacit sable]

it does matter

[floral saffron]

correct on every front

[minor briar]

classes alr have flexible 5th engr options

[tacit sable]

longer fight = more mechs/patterns = higher chance of wiping

[minor briar]

and theyre obvs better than mp eff

[floral saffron]

= more time spent doing mindless hw people already hate doing

[tacit sable]

also longer fight means you have to spend more time doing your homework

[stone fjord]

so its better to be a shitty player with "meta" engravings than being a good play who wants to experiment xd

[radiant flame]

how do people know you are god tier

[floral saffron]

a good player would know what engravings are unusable

[stone fjord]

i feel like following "the build" told to you is much more mindless and attracts lazy people

[heady hollow]

its "the build" to follow for a reason

[floral saffron]

build guides that list builds exist for a reason

[stone fjord]

it seems so stupid to me, there are so many builds to try buy everyone does the exact same thing universally xd

all the build diversity is crazy

[floral saffron]

becuase 3/4ths of the engravings in this game are useless

[tacit sable]

i get where you come from Albert, i also like to theorycrafting but in this game the engraving system is really bad and the engravings itself isnt good either

[stone fjord]

the tripods aren't well designed either

its pretty much often a choice between a shitty one or a godtier

[tacit sable]

legit 90% of the engravings are useless

[floral saffron]

guys im gonna build drizzle with mass increase

[timber mauve]

You don’t use necromancy?

[vast oriole]

When support with crushing fist

[tacit sable]

crushing fist is used in hellkas gate 3

[radiant flame]

the other way to look at it is: i assume everyone (including myself) is bad

i would prefer their bad damage to be the maximum possible

[floral saffron]

right heres my favorite engravnig

arna we know you are you dont gotta out yourself

[stone fjord]

great mindset to have in an mmo game :D so community driven

[radiant flame]

?

[stone fjord]

i guess it doesn't help that doing dailies weeklies takes so much of your time

.>

[radiant flame]

im so confused right now lol

[timber mauve]

I actually have +1 on my alt slayer

[floral saffron]

[vast oriole]

Its better to be pessimist with people so you dont get disappointed

[radiant flame]

which alt

[vast oriole]

Works in life and online

[radiant flame]

#5?

[timber mauve]

Yeah

[radiant flame]

guessed it in one

[floral saffron]

id rather take a 5x3 re blade then a 5x3 arcanist with mp eff

[timber mauve]

I was buying random shit for 4x3 and didn’t realize one had escape 5 on it.

[vast oriole]

Whats wrong with re db xD

[floral saffron]

its re bro

[vast oriole]

My mate is playing it and he does fine

[stone fjord]

smh

[vast oriole]

Usually outdps surge people

Because people are bad

[floral saffron]

the thing is

[timber mauve]

Surge is kinda dog on farm content.

[vast oriole]

Y

[floral saffron]

what icy said

[floral saffron]

you dont have time to build up surge stacks enough

and thats your entire dps

[vast oriole]

But its more about brel g6 hm

When we were on ilvl

When 1560 mizu

I have my second char at 1540 slacker

[radiant flame]

i think, you just need a sense of realism. we're not robots. i think most of us here are helpful and friendly people. but this is also our own time that we're spending on a game. we all have our own ideas about how we want to spend that time. and we also have experience of what the game is like. i think it's undisputable that there are a lot of bad players (myself included) - bad in the quite literal sense in not being able to do good uptime dps on raid content. you're absolutely right that a good player can play with anyuthing and probably still do well. but that's not the reality of 99% of pugs

[floral saffron]

never

[radiant flame]

that is how gatekeeping happens

[floral saffron]

im 5x3+1ing my db then pushing a gs

[radiant flame]

why would anyone gatekeep if everyone in the game was some god player

[floral saffron]

im 1 acc off 5x3+1

then i just need to buy cd books

[radiant flame]

so yes, it is all community driven, because the community is human

i also used to want to play off meta in other games, to the despair of my friends, and now i realise - there is just no point

why bother thinking about stuff that has been thought about by hundreds of people over the last x years

[stone fjord]

bcs it's fun :>

does anyone know if magick stream cdr is additive or multiplicative? don't bite me pls :>

[radiant flame]

all cdr is additive

sorry

multiplicative

[stone fjord]

so im guessing it gets... better with a lot of cdr?

[radiant flame]

the one that is less efficient

no

worse

[tacit sable]

worst

[stone fjord]

🤔

[tacit sable]

only additive is better

[stone fjord]

additive stays constant though

[radiant flame]

if you already have 10% cdr

next 10% only gives you 9%

yes

which is better

read above example

[stone fjord]

wouldn't it multiply the current cdr by 1.1?

[radiant flame]

its reduction

[tacit sable]

in term of cdr additive is better, same as dmg reduction in other games if you are familar

[radiant flame]

10% + 10%

[stone fjord]

yeah but if it's multiplicative

[radiant flame]

additive gets you to 80%

multiplicative gets to 81%

[stone fjord]

then it would be currentcdr x 1.1

so the more the better?

[radiant flame]

holy

[stone fjord]

i don't get it ;-;

[tacit sable]

um no

[radiant flame]

it's reduction

*REDUCTION

[tacit sable]

.9*.9

not 1.1*1.1

[radiant flame]

what are you increasing

[stone fjord]

the cooldown reduction xd

not the cooldown time

[radiant flame]

.....

[stone fjord]

i think

idk

[tacit sable]

its okay, math is hard

[stone fjord]

so if you hover over your swiftness it tells you how much they are reduced

[radiant flame]

yes

[stone fjord]

i thought that's the value that is modified

[radiant flame]

reduction

[stone fjord]

reduction

[radiant flame]

you are making a number smaller

so why are you multiplying by more than 1

[stone fjord]

because

if you have a reduction of say 40%

then you multiply an extra 10%

wouldn't that be

44%?

[radiant flame]

lol

sure

[stone fjord]

???

is it not

[radiant flame]

you can think of it that way

[stone fjord]

?

[radiant flame]

so you've ended up with

44%

which is less than 50%

right?

[stone fjord]

yeah, i get it's less than additive but that was never an option

[radiant flame]

?!

[stone fjord]

i just don't get why yall thinking of it the other way round

[radiant flame]

because it's a reduction

[radiant flame]

i dont know, i can't do this any more lol

[tacit sable]

.

[stone fjord]

but you're increasing the reduction

[floral saffron]

this is all i have to say

[stone fjord]

ayo calm down

all im saying is

you're decreasing the cooldowns by increasing the cooldown reduction

i never said that multiplicative is better than additive the more you have, that was never the question anyway

i just wondered if it scales better with high base cdr than lower :>

[floral saffron]

[tacit sable]

.

[radiant flame]

.

[stone fjord]

yeah

does it not?

Xd

[vast oriole]

No its the opposite

[floral saffron]

.

[stone fjord]

if i have 40cdr and multiply an extra 10% reduction i get more than if i had 10cdr

[radiant flame]

rofl

"if i have more i have more"

ok

[stone fjord]

...

[floral saffron]

ig i need to send it again

[stone fjord]

why are you guys still saying im wrong i don't get it, it makes sense im my head >.<

[radiant flame]

your extra 10% cdr is only 4% cdr in reality

[stone fjord]

yeah, but it's better

than 1% if i had lower cdr

[radiant flame]

??????????

[stone fjord]

right?

[tacit sable]

okay i will tell you this, if cdr are multip, they will never reach 100% cdr, they only get close to it but never reached it
if cdr are additive, they will reach 100%

[radiant flame]

4% is better than 10????

[stone fjord]

who said anything about 10?????

there is no 10????

its multiplicative

additive doesnt exist

.>

[radiant flame]

wow

[vast oriole]

.

[stone fjord]

ok so it does scale with swiftness then

[radiant flame]

;dlkajsfk;kljdflkj;afdskljlfjkd;s

[stone fjord]

it has to

what are you even saying right now

[tacit sable]

same RFP

[floral saffron]

this is insane lmao

[tacit sable]

i feel you

[floral saffron]

heres ur 10 right here

btw

[stone fjord]

higher swiftness = 10% gives you more cdr

[radiant flame]

oh

[calm swan]

can anyone help me with those ?
EU central slen

[radiant flame]

boy

[stone fjord]

you're just trolling at this point xd

[floral saffron]

?

[stone fjord]

what are you even saying lol, im stating facts and yall are quoting google searches at me

[radiant flame]

just take magick stream and we can end this conversation

[floral saffron]

[radiant flame]

best engraving

[stone fjord]

the statement is: 10% extra cooldown reduction gives you more value the higher your swiftness is

[radiant flame]

fr

[stone fjord]

is that wrong?

[radiant flame]

no its the opposite

[stone fjord]

so you get longer cooldowns the more swiftness you have 🤡

[tacit sable]

bro needs to go back to math class

[radiant flame]

you need to also understand what opposite means

[floral saffron]

i shall send it again

surely if i send it enough he'll understand why im sending it

[vast oriole]

No

[stone fjord]

so does the 10% cdr from magick stream calculate with the current cooldowns or the total cdr?

[radiant flame]

yes

[ionic arrow]

hello, according to codex, you can get green and blue wealth rune from the stronghold trade merchant Tuleu, but I've only found the green one from other ppl's stronghold, do i have to actually do the quests to get him in order to buy the blue one?

[tacit sable]

its random

[ionic arrow]

o moer vists then lol

ty ty

[tacit sable]

ye

[stone fjord]

bcs i just thought it just increased the skill cooldown reduction stat from the character pannel. which is why I thought it just multiplied it by 1.1 for the 10% increase

[tacit sable]

you multip by .9

not 1.1

[stone fjord]

but it's a positive value in the panel though

[floral saffron]

hmm id send it again but maybe i get warned forspamming it... so instead ill just say this alluding to my previous messages

[stone fjord]

mans legit not even trying to understand what im saying xd

[floral saffron]

there is nothing to understand

we've already explained why youre math is wrong

[tacit sable]

your skill has 10s cd
10% cdr means it becomes 9s because 10* .9
10% cdr with another 10% cdr it becomes 10* .9* .9 which is 8.1s and it keeps going

you work backward for cd

[stone fjord]

imma have to trixion that shit >.<

[tacit sable]

try and put your math in it and see how your number comes out

i bet its something over 11s

how comes you getting longer cd with your math?

10 * 1.1 * 1.1

[stone fjord]

because i thought the cooldown recudtion is a positive value

that gets added up

from all the sources

[tacit sable]

thats your math

put in calculator and see what it gives

[floral saffron]

i did it for you

[stone fjord]

like you have 30% cdr then you get an extra 10%, making it 33% and then it uses that value to reduce the cooldown

i didn't think making multiple calculations would make sense

[tacit sable]

base cd * .7 * .9 in your case

[stone fjord]

yeah but why not

• .67

idk ill see what trixion says and come back >.<

[tacit sable]

because thats wrong

10 * .7 *.9 = 6.3s

10 * .67 = 6.7s

its just some basic math

[rose jewel]

https://lostark.game.onstove.com/News/Notice/Views/2451?page=1&searchtype=0&searchtext=&noticetype=all

[stone fjord]

So with 500 swiftness and no magick stream i get:

[rose jewel]

how will they answer all the fuck ups

im so intruiged ngl

[stone fjord]

but with magick stream i have

so it's additive? 🤔

[timber mauve]

Old news

[tacit sable]

could be, nobody really use that engraving

[stone fjord]

so that means the whole conversation had no point :>

bruh

[floral saffron]

aint magick stream the one you gotta keep uptime on

[stone fjord]

by dodging attacks as a swiftness class? oh nooo

the ramp up only takes 15s so that's not that bad

[tacit sable]

the whole conversation isnt pointless for you if you get something out of it

[shadow tapir]

Keep up dn

[floral saffron]

so why not run this when you being a swiftness class and other buffs you have negate the 10%

?

[stone fjord]

because mana problems ;-;

[floral saffron]

run nightmare then?

and BOOM no mana problems

[vast oriole]

Here we go again

[stone fjord]

if i run nightmare i can't use the star card

and it takes up my slot

[floral saffron]

when you run the meta gear set you dont have problems

HOLY SHIT

[stone fjord]

and i cant do anything about it

[floral saffron]

[stone fjord]

xd

we back to the start boys

[vast oriole]

Theres a reason why everyone is using nightmare

[floral saffron]

^

[vast oriole]

Just so you know

Its because its best

[floral saffron]

theers a reason why everyone runs nightmare 6 and if they want dominion they go 2/4

[tacit sable]

i know a great way to deal with this

just build it and use it

[stone fjord]

but it's a fact that running nightmare makes you stuck with the star card on arcana if you roll it until your ult is off cd

[tacit sable]

dont come back and cry why nobody accept you

done

[vast oriole]

And get gatekeep

[tacit sable]

we done enough help

if you arent getting it

[floral saffron]

[tacit sable]

then its on you

[stone fjord]

...

[vast oriole]

And? Nightmare still best set

[floral saffron]

literally like

[vast oriole]

Made my head hurts

[floral saffron]

no more mana problems

[tacit sable]

you know back then valtan was the endgame, i used to run magick stream on sorc to combat mp issue because i couldnt push to 1445 for the relic set. Man it was horrible, even though i can have my uptime over 80% on max stacks and mvp very often with it, it was rough getting to parties

thats how i learn the hard truth about off meta engravings

[stone fjord]

hard truth about gaming communities more like

[tacit sable]

sat the party finder for over 2h getting rejected

[stone fjord]

the engraving itself did nothing wrong

[tacit sable]

no

they have a good reason for it and i 100% understand

if you put yourself in their shoes

you would done the same shjt

this isnt anything new

[stone fjord]

doesn't mean it's the right thing to do tho

but judging by the people on this server it won't change before the game dies it seems >.>

[tacit sable]

nobody likes wasting their time getting nothing because low dps or wiping

you know

theres a great quote

"You either die as a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"

thats lost ark

[stone fjord]

a game where everyone plays a copy of the other guy, how fun!

[tacit sable]

the longer you play and the farther you progress, you start to exp stuffs and do things the same as other people

[stone fjord]

i always liked experimenting with what's possible in a game even if people don't like it, if the game doesn't let me do that I'll just quit I guess

not like anyone here will miss me gone lol

[tacit sable]

as i said before, theorycraftings in this game is done

people figured out the meta

and everyone is using it to save their time and everyone else's time

[heady hollow]

if you want to go try to do a raid with 5 non meta engravings

go ahead and be my guest

[tacit sable]

yea nothing stop you

you have been warned

[heady hollow]

tell me how your party finder experience is after

[tacit sable]

you know the risk and you took it then nothing else we can do

[subtle sorrel]

for elgacia prerequisite, I need to do quest on isteri island, which sent me to talk to sebastian first, who wants to do nineveh story, so I have to do nineveh story first? because in quest journal only prerequisite for istari quest line is will which is main quest and completed

[tawdry spire]

hi i used a powerpass and i became lvl50 but now there is only one main quest and i cant do it because it wants me to find 7 arcs but i only found 6 i dont know what to do can someone help

[tacit sable]

the 7th ark is hidden until much later (elgacia)

[subtle sorrel]

look for purple quest that get you to south vern, that's main quest basically

[tacit sable]

progress through your world quests

thats the start after main quests

[tawdry spire]

you guys mean guide quests?

[tacit sable]

blue icon quests

[tawdry spire]

sorry for my bad english btw

[tacit sable]

and you can do every quest if you want

some rewards virtue points which can save you later on rapports

[dry cosmos]

Story is ass, combat is fun

Might as well rush through that snooze fest of a story

Tldr, its about finding some arks.. hence the name of the game

And theres nothing more to it

Maybe I shouldve included a spoiler alert

[tawdry spire]

i used the powerpass without knowing what it is

it was my first time playing the game

suddenly i became lvl50

i was trying to learn the game

but because of the skips i couldnt learn much about the game

[tacit sable]

yea the game just boost you to early endgame without telling you what to do

[dry cosmos]

All good, what town are you in? i can give you a tour

[tawdry spire]

umm i have no idea actually

i was trying to do some guide quests i guess

[tacit sable]

here is a decent starting guide to read, you can ignore T1/T2 sections as you have already skipped them through powerpass https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oci4R6IkwiQoVhGH8IHwFIS33dVS7hQv2Z-sljRrmcE/preview?pru=AAABfum7d_Y*Qg4ASB5gylAtWcA5aLf45g#

[tawdry spire]

i went to a customizable island of mine lastly

[tawdry spire]

ty ill look at it

[subtle sorrel]

which is better to get from ark pass? sailing coins/battle item chests/rapport? I mean which one have most value

[tacit sable]

i dont have many newbie resources with me so if anyone have more, help the guy

[tacit sable]

pick what you need

[subtle sorrel]

you can always make second character, if you want to experience story and leveling

[shadow tapir]

If you're new sailing coins would be good

[subtle sorrel]

I have tons of battle items now but I'm not doing higher guardians etc. right now so I just wanted to know if I should take them or if you guys always have enough so I don't need it

[shadow tapir]

Battle items in guardian up to kunga will be free

So there's less need for that aswell

[tacit sable]

usually just what you need

because if you need rapport, everything else are worthless

[tawdry spire]

well i wasnt reading the story much but levelling was teaching me about the game

[tacit sable]

if you need coins, then everything else also worthless

[tawdry spire]

now i feel like i dont know anything about the game

[tacit sable]

well you just jumped to early endgame

[tawdry spire]

like there is tons of chests in my inv but i dont know what to do with them

[tacit sable]

its normal to be confused and lost

you should open them

the guide quest should tell you what to do with those

[frank sorrel]

do this mean i have 1?

[tacit sable]

and they explain whats going on as well

[shadow tapir]

Yes

[frank sorrel]

how do i use it?

[tawdry spire]

i got it thx

[tawdry spire]

i will but i dont know what to choose

[tacit sable]

for?

if its mount then i think you get them all or you can pick one

if its accessories then um read some guides

know the stats of your class and go from there

its a lot to consume at once so take it slow

[subtle sorrel]

I just wasn't sure how fast you burn battle items in raids and if it's not obvious choice like honing mats, I have enough battle items I think:D

[rose jewel]

save any chest that says you can pick one thing of it, same for any card pack that lets you pick something, and story quest after punika pass is south vern (1340) so you have the ilv for it, the guide quest should tell you here to go

oh wait

do you play in euw

[tawdry spire]

yup

[floral saffron]

signum you can stop telling ppl that

[rose jewel]

ehhhhhhhhhhh

i mean yeah but

[floral saffron]

new players won’t be far enough into the game for it to matter

[maiden locust]

@tawdry spire did you start on eu west? They will merge it in august but if you’re new just go for eu central

[floral saffron]

by the time it happens

[exotic egret]

[rose jewel]

still feels weird

[tawdry spire]

yeah i started on eu west

[rose jewel]

anyway ignore me

ugh

feels bad

[subtle sorrel]

you would feel that way either way, best is to look on some videos/guides, if you don't know something, google it, your best friend is ability to read and understanding what you're reading:D

[tawdry spire]

sorry i dont get it whats wrong about eu west

[exotic egret]

basically dead region

[subtle sorrel]

low population

[maiden locust]

it came out after central europe so it has way too few players

and most importantly for you barely any learning parties

[frank sorrel]

is the female slayer lit and worth the punika pass? im currenlty use lvl 50 shadow hunter

[tawdry spire]

so thats why the chat is dead and matching is not working :d

should i move to another server

[subtle sorrel]

any class you think you'll enjoy is worth it, only downside of slayer is she's expensive because new class

[tawdry spire]

i used a powerpass

[maiden locust]

matching doesn’t work until around deskaluda anyway

[rose jewel]

what class are you playing btw

type "/" then the class name

a guide willpop up

[tawdry spire]

sorceress

[rose jewel]

in here

[maiden locust]

But yeah go to the server select and click central europe instead, you get another powerpass anyway

[lavish grove]

The Ultimate Sorceress Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Sorceress class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

​

Sorceress Community Guide

This information was created by community members · Jun 27, 2023, 9:20 AM

[tawdry spire]

ty

[frank sorrel]

thx yea cause i wanted to use punika pass on slayer and power pass on aero

[maiden locust]

we get another powerpass for aeromancer

[tawdry spire]

okay im gonna go to eu central

thank you guys for help

[rose jewel]

you will get a new punika pass after a bit of playtime

so nothing was lost really

gl

[subtle sorrel]

how much would this go for? on market there are only rings and necklaces

[tawdry spire]

thank you

btw which server should i choose

on eu central

[maiden locust]

I picked Zinnervale, Thirain is popular too

[tawdry spire]

ill choose zinnervale then

should i continue with sorceress

[subtle sorrel]

maybe try to play a bit on euw with her, if you like her, yes, or try some new class, up to you

[tawdry spire]

iwas playing with sorceress on euw

[maiden locust]

most important thing is that you enjoy the class

[subtle sorrel]

exactly. I power passed glaivier and regret it, I don't enjoy her:(

[tawdry spire]

yup i like the class but i saw tier lists for classes so thats why i asked

[timber mauve]

Lost ark is more skill based rather than class based in terms of performance. Tier lists are a very poor representation of a class for lost ark.

[tawdry spire]

got it thx

[frank sorrel]

Just used my Punika pass on slayer now look what they gave her😍

[maiden locust]

That one is kinda troll haha

You get the same if you knowledge transfer to north vern for 600 gold

But free is free

[frank sorrel]

lol bet

[maiden locust]

kayangel shares entry count with legion raids right? so if I did kayangel, I cna only get gold from 2 raids

[shadow tapir]

Yes

[maiden locust]

thx & what happened to alky

[shadow tapir]

Don't ask question you don't want answers to

[lapis steppe]

Can I do 1540 world boss with 1460 ilvl?

[rose jewel]

there is a limit on which you can still hit the boss even if underleveled

[outer mason]

it doesn't share entry count with legion raid
it shares gold count => 3 end-game content gold per week per character

[maiden locust]

No your attacks won’t affect it if you ilvl is too low

[rose jewel]

if you are 1ilv down or around 74ilvs down the boss' level, yes you can still hit him SOMETIMES

[outer mason]

you can technically do 4 legion raids and kayangel on the same week

[rose jewel]

but iirc after 75ilvs you will never hit him

[maiden locust]

I heard you can join a party too but i haven’t tried that

[rose jewel]

you still have personally need to hit him a bit

[lapis steppe]

And for ghostship I need the exact lvl right?

[rose jewel]

you need to score points individually to get loot

yes ghost ship is ilv or cant enter

[maiden locust]

yeah I meant gold obtainment count, I was just confirming cuz I'm reporting a bug, that kayangel shared the gold obtainment count across my roster not just char

[rose jewel]

?

im 99% sure what you faced and im 100% sure its not a bug

user error imo

[summer osprey]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AiPHCB1oa56fM-l0B8ao-11-JYAdiA3qFtS339Dg3dQ/edit
who best build for new class ?

Windfury
or
Drizzle
for high damge?

[minor briar]

think its 75 ish ye, i could hit moake at 1340

80 might be enough

[minor briar]

about the same

just playstyle diff, drizzle more ranged, windfury more melee

[summer osprey]

who best damge ?

[minor briar]

^

[summer osprey]

2 build same damge ?

[minor briar]

yes

if played properly

[radiant flame]

Drizzle is slightly more bursty if that helps at all. But as ulti said there isn’t much difference between damage potential

Drizzle is spec so could be more expensive to build

Windfury has some mana issues

[floral saffron]

they go pretty in-depth on differences in the guide

so read it

[radiant flame]

No reading allowed

[summer osprey]

so who best xd ?

i dont know

[floral saffron]

neither of them are best bro

[minor briar]

read is hard

[floral saffron]

it’s whichever you like more

they’re different play styles

[summer osprey]

i seee windfury high damge

[floral saffron]

they’re both consistent dpsers

that play well into synergies

[minor briar]

anyways, if u want best dmg(according to meta), dont play aero

[floral saffron]

^

aero isn’t a top dps

it’s sought after in raids bc they are really good for party synergy

(they talk about that in the guide too)

[summer osprey]

Choose between the two fun to play more؟

[minor briar]

^

[radiant flame]

How can we know what you find fun

[summer osprey]

he will available it 14/7 ?

[radiant flame]

No. August

[summer osprey]

sad

[radiant flame]

Unless they’ve changed it

[floral saffron]

they haven’t

aero is august still

according to the thing they released with loa on

[summer osprey]

what you will play ? drizzle or windfury ?

[radiant flame]

Anyway stop thinking about damage. All classes do damage. Unless you are going to sink 20k real money into a class you’re never going to hit top damage ceiling anyway. Play what you enjoy playing

[summer osprey]

yeah xd

[floral saffron]

neither bc it’s not out

[summer osprey]

what ?

[minor briar]

if i would make one, i'd go windfury

atks look cooler

but im not

[radiant flame]

But oom!

I think being oom feels so bad

[floral saffron]

supports

[radiant flame]

Think WF still struggled without food right

[charred wadi]

Where can I see the changes in the class in the new patch?

[radiant flame]

The full Swift WF

[summer osprey]

i will play Windfury

its oppppp

[floral saffron]

yeah

even with supp/nm wf still struggles a lil bit with mana

[radiant flame]

What class? Upcoming changes Should be pinned in the class channels

[floral saffron]

i also just find the weather skills cooler

so

[outer mason]

https://lostark.game.onstove.com/News/TesterNotice/Views/33
if you have an english page translator

[maiden locust]

its possible to win free powerpass now ?

[summer osprey]

omg

i wanna this class now xd!

[pallid panther]

worth it leveling a character in other server to get this ? or just stupid

[ancient turret]

is there a cooldown for quick recharge?

[jovial urchin]

blue crystals aren't cross server, so only thing you can use it on is to buy like half a year of whateverthefuck aura for like 15 bucks

[pallid panther]

that was the idea

[valid tusk]

how do we get the elgacia legendary pack? the secret quest one

i think its in the library?

[ancient turret]

after reset

[jovial urchin]

so yeah, that's what people do

[pallid panther]

i just dont know if thats worth it, i was thinking about maybe if i get on track to get 50 i can finish leveling up and have another acount to do lifeskill

[ancient turret]

daily reset

[pallid panther]

but i dont know if i have the will to do that

[valid tusk]

wdym by daily reset

[ancient turret]

take quest on this area

[charred wadi]

I dont know i just want see it

[ancient turret]

only spawn after reset

[jovial urchin]

if you keep adding extra homework on top of everything you'll just burn out and quit faster

[pallid panther]

Maybe those 24h grinding levels wont pay off

[ancient turret]

it's yellow quest

[valid tusk]

like what do i have to do to get it to show up after reset

ive had elgacia done for a while now

[pallid panther]

I already did i guess, but i havent money to get where i want to be

[ancient turret]

oh

put on daybreak title

thats enough i think

[valid tusk]

daybreak, is a green one?

[valid tusk]

i finished the wisdom isle unas

[ancient turret]

idk how long it will last

[valid tusk]

just not sure where the title comes

[ancient turret]

3 box in wisdom island

did u talk to it?

[valid tusk]

i tlaked to the books after

the purple one

but i havent talked to boxes yet

[ancient turret]

gimme 1-2mnt

i have bifrost there

[valid tusk]

alr

[ancient turret]

ill teleport and SS

[valid tusk]

thanks

would google, but not sure what the quest names are lol

[left field]

How often does the strong hold merchant rotate ?

[valid tusk]

8hr i think

[left field]

ok Ty

[ancient turret]

@valid tusk

talk until u get achievement

[jovial urchin]

talk to boxes

[valid tusk]

ohh i see

thanks

thats where u touch the painting in basement?

[ancient turret]

that's you have to find out

i have shown you enough even teleported wisdom

kekw

[valid tusk]

ah i got the title now

[lime sorrel]

how to get the daybreak title guys? ive completed the 14 days una from wisdom isle

[valid tusk]

xD just scroll up some gaussen just explained

[lime sorrel]

ohh ok thanks

[errant crypt]

Need help in remembering one thing >.<
A player yesterday told me to keep my self updated on https://lostmerchants.com/ because as a support I need to buy a card set called....

I don't remember the name!

It was something like "all your plan" "your plan", "it's a plan" or something with plan

[outer mason]

You Have a Plan

[errant crypt]

god bless you

[valid tusk]

got a wei from the pack

ill take it 😄

[errant crypt]

I will wait for it to appear here

[ancient turret]

i have 4 extra wei already

[errant crypt]

and then will buy it

[ancient turret]

fk him

[valid tusk]

xD

i still need 8 more of him

whats our max skill points now with the completed tower?

[exotic egret]

420

[valid tusk]

dang missing 27 still

[lime sorrel]

yo i dont have those 3 boxes but i just completed today the 14 days una from wisdom isle. am I missing something?

[valid tusk]

i think mine left are floor 50, adventure tome, and collectible ones

[ancient turret]

did u click this button?

[rancid bay]

if I buy the ark pass skin using BC, is it still dyeable? since it's not technically "bought" using real money

[lime sorrel]

yes

[maiden locust]

It should say when you hover over the item

The last ones were dyeable i think even with BC

[rancid bay]

it doesn't say undyeable indeed, but wanted to make sure still
thx!

[lime sorrel]

should i relog?

[ancient turret]

wait lemme search it on codex

maybe relog or check any quest left in that area

im sure it just needs rep complete

[lime sorrel]

ohh theres a purple quest kekw my bad

[ancient turret]

nice

[lime sorrel]

thanks ❤️

[woeful acorn]

1.If I hone past 1460 on a express event char, do I lose the engraving support?
2.Should I be honing past 1460 (currently my highest as I have not played in a long time)? I saw that in July we get buffs to get to 1490?

[thin token]

you wont lose support engraving the support engraving has its own expiration date, and yes buffs to honing and also honing to 1490 will no longer cost gold in july update which from my guess would either be first or second week of july so if u want to save gold and can wait then you can just wait for the july update to hone

[errant crypt]

Says I need requiet of twiling, but twilight requiem is one of the reward

So I don't get it if I need it or not

[thin token]

you get the song from an npc on that island i think. Cant remember its been long time

[errant crypt]

Will try to see if I can do that and get it inside

Just got at pc so I had no time to check that before

Yup, there was a yellow quest inside the island and gave it to me, thanks a lot

[thin token]

[subtle sorrel]

guys, want to make destroyer alt - rage hammer or gravity training? which is more fun/chepaer/easier to play in your opinion? I read the guide, can't decide

[silk shard]

gravity training is the easiest

[subtle sorrel]

but from what I could tell you need more gems and it's spec so it will be more expensive to gear?

[woeful thicket]

guys my ilvl is 1399 i can solo chaos dungeon ilvl 1385?

[subtle sorrel]

definitely, I think all classes can solo chaos on ilvl (at least up to 1445)

[supple dock]

you can solo chaos dungeon on any ilvl, on dps classes it's pretty straight forward, if you've got a support class, the only thing you need is a skill preset and preemptive strike engraving

[torpid lantern]

Anyone know what the Vykas/Brel card drop rate is?

[devout granite]

when is the most common side usage in g6 brel? for pugs

[supple dock]

azena before 187, wait for shandi = use in shandi mech, azena before 87, inanna in second shape mech

[woeful thicket]

guys where i can get faceted abillity stones?

[floral saffron]

shandi after shapes >>>

if ur team is at all above ilvl you outdmg azena

[supple dock]

not in a pug setting imo

[floral saffron]

i shandi my pugs

[supple dock]

in a static sure, you can sync the damage and make the most out of shandi

[supple dock]

https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/resources/ability-stone-system-guide

[woeful thicket]

i got all of those and i cant equip them what should i do

[supple dock]

go to this NPC, you can find the icon in any major city

and you have to cut the stone there

[supple dock]

you can read the full guide on cutting stones in the link i sent above

[woeful thicket]

how do i know if i need it or i dont?

[fossil linden]

is this not a field boss? the name is not showing up on the list..

[supple dock]

Lagoon island

you have to wait for it to be on the calendar, it's and island from the rotation

[fossil linden]

ah f

[errant crypt]

Those Amulets are pretty much items that help you level up your skills, if you go in your skills you will see something like this:

See, they have a level, and those items increase the level

To know what you need, first of all check the community guide for your class, you can find it here: https://carried.vercel.app/guides/ (select class, a google doc will open with a detailed guide for your class)

[fossil linden]

also can you do 1490 fieldboss being 1470 for the rewards?

[errant crypt]

@woeful thicket In the skill part, you can see exactly what TRIPOD (these are tripods https://i.imgur.com/cThSWjn.png) you need.
Then, if you click in the "settings part"

[woeful thicket]

oh ok

[errant crypt]

You can pretty much select what you need, so those items (amulet) will also have an icon showing you which one of them is useful to you

Once you mark the skills (see this image for example)

All the amulets you drop that can increse one of those skills will also have a small symbol so you can differentiate what is useful to you to what is not

It will look like this^ (see the small icon)

[ornate quartz]

anyone had an issue where the game would open, audio would play, but the game's display itself wont show anything? except the mouse cursor changing?

[lavish grove]

The Ultimate Slayer Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Slayer class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

​

Slayer Community Guide

This information was created by community members · Jun 27, 2023, 11:58 AM

[errant crypt]

@woeful thicketIf you are a slayer (like role says), this is the guide for your class ^

[woeful thicket]

ok ty

[radiant flame]

Yes

[errant crypt]

Nop, have you tried running a repair?

[supple dock]

happened a few times to me, a simple pc restart fixed it

[fossil linden]

is it in rowen? cuz it showing an unknown location for me..

@radiant flame also last night I follwod the required quest for like 2 hours and still couldn't finish it lol

idk if thats even the right quest this required quest are so crigne

[radiant flame]

Which boss. There is a rowen field boss (helmut) I don’t know which one you’re looking at

[fossil linden]

any that's 1490

[radiant flame]

Idk man. I’m not some quest god. But I suggest you just do all the quests on one of your characters

Like, any purple, yellow

[dreamy heath]

Trying to find out how to build charisma. its like 90 below all my other stats. am googling it, just wondered if theres any simple steps

[errant crypt]

So, some question, don't bite me please :o
Today is last day before reset, I never tried Valtan before (found difficulty in organizing it in LFG discords) , but saw this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_htSDsZ4DU&t=313s

Lets suppose I join a raid, are there chances of me damaging other people instance?
I saw the whole video, seems NOT THAT HARD, but I'll surely make some mistake, would like to avoid creating problems to anyone else

[supple dock]

horizontal content is the simple answer hidden quest and such

also you can press alt+D, that sould open your codex and you can search for charisma potion there

and see where you can get those

[dreamy heath]

yeah see alot of rapport / reputation ones i've not done. thanks. guess i should do alot of my missed hidden stories too

[radiant flame]

Nothing is simple. Search charisma potion in codex as they each give 10

Some are tied to rapport/una reputation

Oh someone already replied

[radiant flame]

Valtan isn’t “hard”, but yes you can wipe everyone if you do something super dumb. I would recommend joining a learning party or at least telling people you’re new

[errant crypt]

joining a learning party
I tried joining and also organizing one msyelf, but this week was a mess in terms of time-availability so I was pretty much the problem in terms of not being able to be in one

[radiant flame]

Videos do make everything look relatively straightforward, but things are always a bit harder in reality

That being said Valtan isn’t that bad

[supple dock]

the only attack you can hit your teammates with is if he targets you with this cone attack

you can see if he targets you - you move, the cone moves with you

[radiant flame]

Sure. I wouldn’t worry too much. If you don’t get one this week you don’t get one. Some people will suggest you just get a bus but I personally think that ruins the experience of learning (which I think is fun)

Have you looked for a guild yet?

[errant crypt]

I am into one a friend told me just temporarily until i learn the game, so i can get the rewards

[radiant flame]

Ok. Get your friend to carry you lol

Otherwise yeah guilds are another good way to get into raiding

[cobalt edge]

Hello, is there a stronghold merchant for elgacia? 😮

[lavish grove]

The Ultimate Artist Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Artist class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

​

Artist Community Guide

This information was created by community members · Jun 27, 2023, 12:39 PM

[lapis steppe]

how high is the current basic honing buff, 1460?

[subtle sorrel]

is there any list of rewards from punika quest line?

[subtle sorrel]

up to 1460 only silver, beyond you pay gold for honing so yes

[grand scarab]

Maybe a dumb question, but what's the current event going on in lost ark? Is it the maharaka festival again?

[lapis steppe]

Balthor Raid Event

[grand scarab]

Where's best place to get info on that?

[lapis steppe]

You get coins from chaos & guardian raid, and there is a daily event in yorn you can participate in, also shows up in the schedule, then just spend coins in the shop

[supple dock]

yeah, if you have more than 4 characters that you do chaos/guardians on, you don't really need to care about the event

just buy out the shop at the end of the week

[grand scarab]

Gotcha, just do guardians and chaos

Know offhand when the daily event pops?

[lapis steppe]

every 3 hours, next one for EU is 16 50

[grand scarab]

Much appreciated!

[outer mason]

https://lostark.fandom.com/wiki/Balthorr_Raid_Event

[hot pulsar]

is it possible to get executor solas from uncommon card packs?

im asking cuz he's green but i've never got them from a card pack

is levelling up manually really the only way to collect those cards

[timber mauve]

Yes

[thin token]

from the purple card packs that u get from challenge abyssal dungeon that pack allows u to select a specific card pack and then in that pack u can get solas yes

[hot pulsar]

interesting

[outer mason]

1/57 chance to get it (1.75%)

[supple dock]

chance is sooo small since there's a lot of green cards

[thin token]

if u hover the solas card it tells u which pack to get

[hot pulsar]

i literally have only 1 awakening on him, and 0 cards in my possession out of 7 months of play

wow

ok well thanks that explains it

[supple dock]

he's also in the packs you get in challenge abyss

should be a better chance to get him there

[outer mason]

"Fearless Knight Card Pack" and "Strong Courage Card Pack"

[hot pulsar]

i only open deslolate meadows from those

[supple dock]

oh, there's your problem then

[hot pulsar]

nice, i'll start doing one of those then

[supple dock]

or you can hard farm him

do solas runs

[hot pulsar]

yeah no thanks

[outer mason]

kek

[hot pulsar]

to begin with, it would cost me more than buying packs from the store

since you gotta pay for more character slots

and then manually level up LOL

and do that 13 times

[supple dock]

you make a char, get card, delete > repeat

[hot pulsar]

LOL

[supple dock]

each run takes around four hours

[hot pulsar]

holy shit

taht's 8 hours for me

[vast oriole]

Less now probably with shift g

[hot pulsar]

elgacia took me whole day people said 2 and half hours

[supple dock]

oh true, forgot about shift g

did two runs back when we didnt have that

[vast oriole]

U dont need to read anything

You just focus on main quest

[hot pulsar]

i know, but i probably lose a lot of time in loading screen

since i play on a fridge basically

[maiden locust]

You would have shift-g since you already cleared it right?

[eternal zenith]

or just play the game and do event with card pack

solas is green

[hot pulsar]

yeah i'll just open fearless and we good

eventually

[eternal zenith]

like there's so much event that gave you card pack nowaday

[vast oriole]

You have shift g even if you dont clear it

[eternal zenith]

you can even do the chall abysa

and get the special card pack there

even the bidded 1

[vast oriole]

Yea no people will get mad if he has a lot of loading screens

[eternal zenith]

no 1 ever take that

[vast oriole]

I do xxD

[floral saffron]

it doesn’t have greens in it so that doesn’t help his problem what so ever

[vast oriole]

It does

[floral saffron]

the auction one is blue/purple

[eternal zenith]

it does tho

[vast oriole]

Its random

[eternal zenith]

the 5 card they give you + the 1 on bid

have purple to white rarity

[supple dock]

or buy peyto packs

[vast oriole]

Not the one like "vern card pack" or yorn

The other one

[hot pulsar]

are there also packs to buy on fermata? or only peyto

where else are there card packs to buy?

i know about sh

[vast oriole]

Stronghold npc

A

[eternal zenith]

stronghold NPC