#lost-ark-help
1 messages · Page 557 of 1
is 5x3 alright for kayangel nm?
yes
okay good, is full ancient required for nm?
nothing is required just 1540
No
okay just wanna be safe dont wanna be gatekept Q_Q
The only way to truly avoid gatekeeping is to find people/static/friends/guild mates to play with
I don't need to finish rowen story line to do elgacia or something right?
No
nice ty
nope, but it requires you to do the underwater abyssals
have fun
no it doesnt

not the opens one
i got a nin card out of the cardpack from that
u cant get lvl 3 without ancient tho, but u can still do it
Hey guys, newbie here. How do I get to item level 600? Also do you guys think I can still finish the story express event before it ends?
Where are you
yeah but i can at least farm the mats
Yes
NAW - Rohendel server
im ok with that
If you’re on story express you should get 600 stuff from completing rohendel
Okok just to be sure
No where are you on story express
still ty tho owo
Going to yorn
I don’t know exactly what you get but you should get pre honed gear
I got the +8 providence set but that sets me for 460
Open your rohendel reward
oh
Yes, now I got it
Also if you're at Yorn if you spend the entire rest of today you should be able to complete the Story Express...if you skip dialogue and cutscenes
I see, thank you
If you skip everything
Obviously, IRL is more important
But it’s worth finishing if you have the time
You’ve got like, 13 hours to do it though
Yep
I see
The deadline would be by the time maintenance happens
After maint, it will be over
It’s in about 13 hours 20 minutes
Can ilvl (1570) Brel Relic Ancient gear be transferred up to Akkan relic Ancient*? 
Can try to get to punika, i guess its possiblr
Yes
Doesnt require ancient ?
It does
Oh
Akkan ancient* (edited above)
Thanks
Yeah but he said brel relic to akkan
Doesnt require brel ancient like the level 3 set?
As far as I'm aware set bonus level isn't required for anything
you need lvl 2 to get lvl 3 
im in arthetine for story express. am i doomed
Not doomed
Well other than that lol
Just skip all dialogue and cutscenes
yep
shift+g your friend
akkan people will also prolly gatekeep set lvl anyways so
technically will need some
I mean even though its arguably more accessible than Brel
In kr, they were gatekeeping with 10 clears brel pet
oh good
Just on a difficulty and tedium level I mean
No talking more grinding


this is true
doesnt mean gatekeeping will be any better though
sadly
which equally sucks bc its an easier raid 
Me have no cleanse 
Brel becomes an obstacle to something people will likely enjoy doing more
Which is unfortunate
I wonder if they will gatekeep bards
play a better support bro

alright my dudes i need help, so i need to do the south sea island quest. When i try to start the quest with cindy she says i need to speak to sebastian in vern
i go to vern and he is not there ._.
apparently sebastian gives the quest destinies whisper but ive already done it
You’re sure you’re in the right place?
The NPC might have moved because you’re in the middle of another (eg rapport) quest they’re on
Hey guys, just started.
I got tons of things that I can claim, should I just claim all of it?
I personally wouldn’t yet
They’re not going anywhere
I’d make sure you’re happy with region/server/class choice
Most of those things are way more useful once you’re in endgame
what about this event? should I start it?
asking as it says thats only once per account
the other 2 events are locked due to ilvl
You're not likely to finish Story Express before Maintenance tonight which is when it ends
it's also actually once per region
So you can pick it up just to start some of it, but you won't get it done
they could get most of it done, better than nothing
is this quest also needed for elgacia or unrelated?
that's unrelated
ah alright ty
Is there a channel or server for Horizontal content?
hello,what does fpp4d means? on raids
flare phero phero destruction
per party numbers
fppd is a censored term so ppl type 4d
i haven't heard of, no idea about others
Anybody knows how the new cards/new card type(abyssal) will change the existing legendary packs?
For example say you only care about the LOS cards(not the demon ones), do you want to open them now? Open them later? Or does it make no difference in your %chance to get LOS cards?
Realistically it isn't going to really alter the chances...still crap RNG either way
still the same amount of cards
just swaps some out for others
Does anyone know the legendary card drop rate for argos and the drop rate per oreha dungeon?
Specifically? No. Just random, thats all.
So you're saying there's a chance 
This is why we don't really advise hard chasing after cards. Too random, kind of just need to let it happen unless you're fine with the high possibility of repeated weeks of getting nothing for LoS.
So for example this pack before and after the update will always contain 19 possiblities for a total of 7/19 chance(assuming equal weight) to get a LOS card?
Legendary Card Pack II allows a selection between original 'Legendary' packs or new 'Abyss Legendary' packs, which include Demon Legion Commander cards.
This is the line that confuses me. Does this mean in the future when you click on an existing lengendary pack, you can choose to make it the original 19 card version, OR a new version which only(or maybe not only) also includes a bunch of demon commander cards?
Just came back and started playing again, these are rewards the game gave me. whats rare and whats not. im not max level atm so idk what to open and not open.
3% in Argos I think, from what I’ve heard, dk about oreha

it’s a new version
that you can choose to make the old one, “Legendary Card Pack” or the new one, “Legendary Card Pack II” which replaces some of the “useless” cards with the kazero’s legion commanders cards
i forget exactly what cards they replace though
can you trade these for smth
Ok that makes sense. That means the existing “Legendary Card Pack” should be unchanged right? I just didn't know if the “Legendary Card Pack” is going to include more cards and therefore dilude the existing pool. That would be bad since I'm only looking for LOS cards now.
Thanks.
yeah
wow oreha and argos is much lower than I expected
it’s staying the same, there’s just a second version being made
Use the Platinum Coins, use the Pheons, use the card packs, use the Regulus Silver Chests, use the mokoko pet, use the pet selection chest, use Crystalline Aura.
Store the honing material chests/bags, store the battle/utilty item chests, store the Stronghold energy pill, store the leap essence and life energy pots.
anyone know how i can unlock cube? i have a ebony ticket in my inv but cant accept the purple announcement quest
go up to the cube thing
i did and it just tells me i need to complete the announcement quest
do i keep blues?
anyone know how to fix this crash? started happening today
stupid eac
Try verifying your files
keep every card, cosume useful sets,lookup guides
driving me crazy, iv unlocked everything except cube, dont know if its a bug
Anyone have the link of the skins we are getting tomorrow?
Because you need to physically get a cube ticket to complete it
Did you get the ticket from exchanging from the old ones or a drop?
drop from chaos, new player here
Hm, weird
shows i have a ticket in inv
and what about the rest of the window
but wont let me accept quest, just has a "locate" button but nothing happens when i click it
not sure if i need to complete another quest in order to get it unlocked or what, or if it is just a bug
im 1445 gear score @quartz fern quest line 6/7 arks
have you considered clicking the guide tab
I’m fairly sure in the new card pack, it’s just the LOS cards replaced with KLC
The shit cards are still there
omfg, i just searched the quest name
Otherwise you would always pick the new pack
no
THANK YOU!
it’s the other way
?
this is why at the very start i said exactly these words
Really. But then why would you ever pick old pack
lostwind
i didnt see this
I mean
it takes out some beneficial to other card sets
Anyway just repeating what some KR guy said before. I guess we’ll see
but mostly trash ones
but thanks again, appreciate the help
But happy to be proven wrong
do we need to clear all 4 gates of new abys dungeon at once or we can do it like raids?
anyone uses the lostmerchant site?
9it's not working properly for me even tho I have everything enabled..
it works in test run but never actually works when card spawns
what do your settings look like
Does the story express function like a Powerpass in any way? I’m confused on how to use it
no
all it does is give you loot for clearing story, some of which is actually good
not really enough time to finish it at this point though if you just started it
Yeah. No way I would ever touch the campaign again tbh 
It’s a cool feature though
how do you do the 2 player prokel thingy
have you tried checking the help page, in particular this part
Make sure you don't accidentally filter out the notification you want to see (Notifications). If the issue still persists, the test notifications work but you are still missing them sometimes, make sure to check Windows notification assistant settings and turn off active filters ("When im playing a game", "When im in fullscreen")
window settings are fine since I do get other notifications such as alarm when I am playing games etc
i would still suggest looking at the settings
they also have there own discord
everything is ticked
I am in one I am not sure if it's the correct discord but their bot doesn't have deepdive cards..
free? how
this has probably been asked a bunch of times but: will kayangel count as one of the 3 gold earners raids of the week?
I wonder since oreha didnt count and its also an abyssal
it counts as a gold earner raid
got it
is there guide on total gold got from hardmode legion raids?
Pinned
is saw toothblade a good roll on bracelet ?
Whats the description
no
i mean it's some dps gain, but it's kind of trash
trash tho that dark grey text
Theres better, theres worse i guess
pretty much every single effect has the "less effective against foes above lv60" text
it doesn't mean anything
o
i'm not even sure if there is anything above level 60 in the entire game
Don’t think there is.
future proofing for a future that may never come
https://prnt.sc/1XUg8gOM3FnQ the one w ambush i assume is better
Yes
What do you do with cards you don't need?
Use them.
Like if I'm just going for LWC or LOS what's the point of these other random cards?
They just take space right
They still provide bonuses in the form of the overall "book" collections
There’s no such thing as cards you don’t need.
Is there any way to get more card slots other than BC?
No
But remember you don't need to spend exclusively only money to get BC, you can convert gold to BC
Keep the cards in your storehouse
i 'as gold ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Well there are some roster levels that reward BC
So when you hit those levels you can use the BC from that to open up slots
Yeah, I'll keep all the cards on a low level alt
Ty, was literally about to throw them out but figured I should ask here
not sure what u people spending on gold on unless ya overpaying for accessories
honing homie
Buying skins
Going from 1475>1490 is painful.
I just came back to the game and the amount of gold i make from valtan/vykas/argos barely funds honing atm
especially if you don't have lots of alts
i have one other alt that can do valtan so my income is tight right now
was running 1class for awhile
Fr
Una's Tokens
^
yup yup, i had 20k gold earlier this week
And excavating right now
lost it all on honing and orehas fusion buying LUL
At 1490 I get anywhere between 6k-7k from Una's Tokens
sold grudge+adre stone for 6969 awhile ago too when game was much more alive, not nowadays
r u going to chaos gate too? end auction earn some gold
Or im super unlucky
You probably get more than you think you're getting
Maybe
So long as you're buying either the small chest or the bag
Big chest too inconsistent and honestly only worth if you get super lucky with the 10k brick
iirc some1 did the math there were no diff awhile ago
small safe and sack are the way to go then?
Having done both, there is a difference in consistency
yes in the very very very very long run, they all end up the same amount of gold, but small bags will more likely get to the avg than large chests
due to smaller variance
^
i hope they nerf honing 1460-1490 period.
as someone who just came back, yes please LOL
trying to catch up to current raids but actually just fucked on this honing rn
They will probably with akkan
tomorrow mokoko thingy boost is changing again up to 1490 end
all my 6 chars are 1460
1475
Ok
one of my chars has like 2200 leapstones though
so was hoping honing nerf would come so i could boost him up. but the char with 2200 leaps is my artilerist. lol oldest char
i have a char with 6k leaps
If u dont pity every hone

o whoops yea 1475
Looking for advice on what to do. I've played around and tested classes and have found 3 of the classes that I only want to play. My main account has 6x 1460/los15 but only has one of the class that I want to play. The second account that I used to test out other classes has 3 1460 - two of the class that I enjoy playing. I thought about deleting the rest of the classes that I don't enjoy playing on my main account but I do not have resources(powerpass/hyperexpress/left over mats) to hone the new classes that I want to add. The second account is barebones when it comes to horizontal content/cards. Any advice?
I dont even have los15. pretty sure my account is fucked for progression at this point
pretty sure any acccount is really if ur truly trying to catch up at this point
keep playing on main account tbh, and slowly replace your roster
Deep dive is a good alternative
unless the main account's horizontal isnt that big
or you are willing to grind again
u dont need any requirement to do content, just community making it difficult
Yeah, I'm not up to current content but you can find groups that are willing to take you no matter what
as long as you try and join some discords you can find groups
Main has pretty decent horizontal I think when it comes to the necessities like skill points and runes. It just feels like a waste not playing the classes that I enjoy
then do
literally nothing and no one stopping you from deleting a char you dont like and creating one you do
Should I be deleting the characters that I don't play on my main account now and just play the last one?
I can create them but I'm out of the resources to hone them to 1460
delete 1 by 1, when the char you like is high enough, delete the next one, use the ones you dont like for at the very least silver
ye thats why i said replace it slowly
hard solutions for easy problems
Ah I see. Is this how you guys switch mains?
you can knowledge transfer and get them to t3 pretty easily and just start collecting mats from chaos on them
but if more than 1 person tells you some instructions, i guess you can tell its on the right track
besides
1460 is so easy to reach
(compared to before)
just dont try to get there in 2 hours
like
I just stopped honing on my old main and honed my new main. 
lopang slaves
You'll want lopang slaves if you're swapping mains or pushing characters
never forget its an mmo and shit is supposed to take time
the moment you fomo or get desperate coz "slow progression" is the moment you lose
Plus ark pass season 3 drops tomorrow
I was about to ask. I guess I just got spoiled with the hyper express getting a char straight to 1460 in minutes
Ark pass 3?
if what i read is correct
I haven't used my 2nd and 3rd pass costumes lol
you might be right, I'm in shambles without the subreddt
ark pass next week, 21th
official info ftw
whats ark pass?
what do we get with the pass?
people never read official info
u do shit and get stuff
And amazon is lost
Basically a battle pass but lost ark’ified
should be s4 no? on the pass
to help you push to t3 faster, you can do tower for t1 and t2, and for t3 just go to this island on every char and clear the "hold limit" stuffs
S4 is kindergarden
'
Its either s4 or elgacia pass
we'll see
Elgacia pass would have more sense
is there going to be a new power pass to elgacia?
Which one
the skins have been mid
No
kindergarden
I'm looking forward to the blue dokkaebi skin and booba halo
Hat is cute on artist too
I thought the purchasable honing things were roster bound for this island? I may have bought it out already
they arent roster bound
the hold limit is per character
it gives t2 and early t3 leaps
i believe they made some changes to the anguished isle vendor
but i forgot which ones exactly
pushing characters really aint that bad anymore
it is not
but if you're new and literally 0 resources
well yes ofc lol
will take a bit more time
but still
we get a lot of mats and shit to hone alts super fast
Any Kayangel cheatsheets out there?
he can just buy most if not all mats
learning parties 
prob a bus angle
ye
even if you're not in the guild physically
prob more guild
statics are give and take tho
tho to answer original question, don't waste those 1460s and LoS cards.
thems is a lopang slave wet dream
Solution: Static buys them D4. Ez.
what a waste
if I want the highest healing potion am I obligated to go rowen?
because I've noticed some towns dont have em
whats the gold price for elgacia knowledge transfer?
6k
I sell u elgacia knowledge youtube video 5k gold
That's not bad
For u my friend, 4.5k so polite

i used the power pass to punika, but what do i do now? i dont know what should i do to keep progressing
Which armor set do you have at this point?
iirc it should be the chosen set at best
1340 item level legendary +0 armors
chosen set
the problem is
1360 at the moment
they put you at endgame without any game knowledge
if at least they made a video on super basic stuff about how to progress
but lets be real they dont even know nor play their own game
chaos dungeon and guardian raid for the time being, push to 1370
priority is Oreha's Well abyss dungeon and Argos abyss raid
your next major milestone is at 1415
the currency from either can be either converted to leapstones or you can use them to roll for legendary accessories that have your class engraving
There are T3 islands and the tower that can give you more honing materials, look up guides for that
you can buy from the shop, south vern should also have it
You'll want to get 4x3 engravings as soon as you can, so look into getting your engraving books
Eh to that first bit. Its like...a island kinda. Kadan quest line and I think the Zinnervale one that precedes it...?
should i do airas oculus or oreha preveza?
Both
ok
Don't matchmake for it, use the Party Finder and see if you can get into what is likely a card run group. Basically a free carry through.
abyss raid is locked for now, where do i unlock it?
from which towns not all have the highgest ones
Finish all of the weekly stuff tonight
kay
Guide quest; press J go to the Guides tab
If you can run the event guardians, do that and get whatever material you can (preferably the pheons first)
belle something in south vern
that event ends tonight
found it
so the highest one is only rowen and south vern?
where are those events?
do you mean challenge guardian raid?
Challenge is different, Event Guardian you access in Nia Village, near the Chaos Dungeon statue. There should be a statue of its own nearby
@tacit sable because the one in south vern is also sold in vern apparently
oh ok so mystic is the last one thx
ok
elga should have a new one
should i do challenge too?
Yeah do that as well
Is there a list for comparison of all chaos dungeon/guardian raid rewards? I checked #info-dump and only found up to 1520
@shut pasture @burnt pendant thank you both
@zealous quarry just be aware that you should prioritise getting the correct stats and engravings. Refer to the community guides for what you should be doing. Maxroll has a slider that lets you chose builds based on how many skill points you have, so use that for now... But the community guide is much better in general.
You'll get gatekept to heck if you don't have the right stats and engravings
yeah, the guide tells me to build crit and specialization, and also tells me what engravings i should use
but i dont know how to get the engravings
you need books
chaos dungeon and cube
how do i get the books?
tier 3 abyss dungeon and argos
or the auction house
Islands, events, auction house
You want epic (purple) tier engraving books, a 6/6 ability stone, and the correct accessories.
Islands you mean doing the island quests?
refer to guides for what islands actually drop those.
Green and Blue tier are actually harder to get, and tend to be more expensive than purple.
What ilvl to park Atls rn ?
1490 and slowly get brel pieces or 1540 to run nm kayangel
that entirely depends on you and your account, there is no perfect "alt park" spot
^ that too
lv0
whales will tell you 1600, casuals will tell you 1460~or less, no answer
and tist will tell you to go play D4 instead
Best alt parking spots are:
1540
1490
1475
1460
pick whatever works for you
im not a d fan
what is argos?
1475 is a terrible park spot
1370 raid
like one of if not the worst
Abyss Raid, 1370 item level
Diablo 4 was terribly boring
oh look, someone with common sense and good tastes
1490 is preferable.
its not that d4 is bad, it just aims at different people
i enjoyed d1 back in the day
1475 is trash if youre not a support, people gatekeep a lot for clown on ilvl
5-6 is more trouble than it's worth, unless you have a strong group
Bet Ty
so 1490, get enough transfer pieces to hit 1500 without honing, and just cruise until you have enough resources to push to 1540 for nm kayangel
far too tedious
clear it once for the horns or a few for title and just be on with your day.
hey just wondering has the game changed a lot in the last year?
Insanely so
becausei was 1310 1 year ago
Much more approachable
How many clears you need for Brel pets?
and im thinking of coming back
Honing is considerably easier, tons more content, prices have dropped like mad
hows progression?
5 and 10 for the two
Thanks
much easier all the way up to 1460, which is Vykas hard mode.
ooo
the push after that is a big tough, but it's easy to get a bunch of characters up there, now
is vykas gold gain nerfed after patch?
assuming your account is trusted
so it used to be progressing past 1300 now its 1460 thats the stopper?
read patch notes
Btw is kayangel also tied to gold limit from legion raids?
To be honest, we're getting 1580 content literally tonight
dam
there's content at 1475, 1490, 1500, 1520, 1540, 1550, 1560, and now 1580
yes, it got changed a month or 2 ago
o wow
o rip my brain farts and forgot patch notes alrdy here x.x
well thanks kev i think i might reinstall 😮
1540 is normal mode kayangel, and 1580 is hard mode.
any new things i should be aware of?
starting from 1460 its the same rough low hone chances
that i might not know about?
Btw are we getting an ark pass with elgacia or no?
Utilize the express events and passes
o
read patch notes
5x3+1 is now doable without omega RNG but that's post 1540
but 5x3 is pretty much standard, now.
i only played lost ark for 1 month so idk what that means lol
Link?
You will eventually, it'll take time
Find a guild or group ASAP
Thanks man your a lifesaver
there's ark pass season 3 yes
but that's next week (21st)
Dope
i tell people where or how to find the resources so they can check there everytime instead of looking everywhere and find nothing
i dont usually just tell yes or no or the info they want

Still tho I appreciate it, thanks.
is green thumb platinum field farming for gold still a thing?
cool, just hit 30 foraging
does anybody know exactly where we can get thaemine card from? kayangel drop, selector, anything else? an achiev?
quick question, is the prequest for elgacia roster wide? or character bound?
Roster
like if i do it on one will i have to do it on the others?
ok so i can do it on my swift chars
Yeah
is anyone else getting the bug where the bonus chests aren't free on non-gold earners?
i could get the valtan chests free and vykas gate 1 free, but gate 2/3 are not free
Don't you have to complete those on your gold earners for the week before it allows you to do that?
I just got to 1460 ilvl, when I transfer the free gear to the relic/raid gear does it lose honing +’s? Also should I hone as high as possible before I start raiding for new gear?
him getting the "first chest for free" and the rest no seems like
yes
what does this mean?
No, Legendary will transfer 1:1 into Relic gear
im done my gold earners
you won't be able to swap the hyper over to another character once you hone
hyper express has a honing chance bonus after the piece has 1415 ilvl, once you try to hone then it doesn't let you switch who you have hyper express on
if the hyper express finishes (im using express 1) i can use express 2 on it normally right?
looks like it was just UI bug, buying it didn't cost me anything
when hyper 1 ends
Once Express 1 ends, which is tomorrow
if we're talking about the same character
yeah which is t mrw
yes
supposedly you can use hyper express 2 on the same char, though obviously nobody has tried yet
Well you can, just after the first one ends.
i have no faith that they didn't fuck it up
I mean we'll know tomorrow
any relevant difference?
Nope
The Name
They did say relevant difference
If you honed to 1445 and lost the mokoko buff, would you get it back with this new update that raises the ilvl to 1475? I know they raised the cap once before, so I'm hoping someone might know what happened then.
I believe it would, but honestly I'm not 100% on that
first time we get an update like this? probably
well maybe 2nd
but no one that went past it gave info on it, or at least i didnt read anything about they getting it again, nor that they didnt get it
so its 50/50
second mokoko challenge ilvl cap update
vets wouldn't be able to say unless they had multiple rosters or something
Could always ask on official discord?
and new players dont hang in here telling us the stuff
wait
rfp is green
mod abuse incoming
So I can mute you
Thanks for the replies. I'd be checking reddit too, but the lost ark sub is private right now 😭
new players wouldn't know either, there's a really really small cross section of players that both have played since mokoko 1415 was added and the number of players who are still <1445 rosterwide when the mokoko challenge cap updated
like miniscule amount of players that fit those categories
lets ask icy to make a new full slayer roster today and check
i got a 1340 with hyper express on a different region, i'll just hone that real quick and if i make it to 1445 i'll let you know if it comes back tomorrow
07
it was a pleasure, good while it lasted
thankgod
i think i found the quest on one of my alts
hey guys i dont see the one night two stories quest on nineveh in whishper islet does anyone know why?
which one is that? rapport or 15th heart?
for the gate of paradise opens quest
theres a few prerequisites
have you done the kadan questline fully?
yes i tracked them all the way to the back and i found out i didnt finish One Night two stories quest
where do i start the event guardian raid?
its right by the event exchange
its like a statue
uhhh thats odd
and i m supposed to accept the quest from nineveh in whisper islet and i dont see any
it is in vern but there are prerequisites so i tracked down those prerequisites
which is One night two stories
are you sure u havent started that quest on an alt maybe and ignored it?
lemme look into it hold on
that what i just found i did for the tabula quest
have you done these?
before tabula quest i need to finish blue blazing quest
yeah for blue blazing you need to do the related islands & stuff p sure
which is i didnt finish blue blazing and i tracked down from that which ends up to One night two stories
so i have to start from One night Two stories to continue
have you done all the illusion bamboo quests?
if its part of the quest then it should be part of the quest that sends you there. so look for the alt that has a quest asking u to go there
which is i couldnt continue cause i m supposed to find the quest from nineveh in whisper islet(according to the youtube)
let me find out
thats good one too i gonna try to find out
you probably should try to find what the starting quest chain is maybe thats what u have to do
I have a stupid question
for example Tabula Rasa starts from "The Infinite Darkness" quest chain but the bird only mentions Tabula instead of the whole chain
Are u doing nineveh rapport or any quest involving her?
all it said is that i havent done tabula which i couldnt find the quest for at all only to find its just the last part of this quest chain
involving her not rapport
What
try to find someone that has started that quest chain and ask them to post a story progress ss like i just did. that way ull know which part u havent completed yet in order to finish the chain
oh yea stupid of me nvm i found it one of my alt i already accepted 💀
yep, same thing happened to me. i had it accepted on an alt that i barely played on and had it deselected from my journal
omg thats exactly i did that i deseslected from my journal thats why i couldnt see
i only found out cause one of my alt said i had a quest started on another character but all of my other alt and main had no mention of that
thank you guys!
I make death blade ♥️
returning player here, what do i do after my oath and chosen armor is all +17
Legion raids to get Relic set
is there a point of going past +17
^
you need +20 to get to the next ilvl increase set of gear, it doesn't matter what gear you get to +20 with
but you should probably start working on legion raids for relic gear
i have to go past +17 on my harsh oath and chosen armor?
Yes
Not necessarily
Or on the relic, its the same chances
i need to get relic regardless right
honing levels transfer to relic, it doesn't matter when you get them, but you will eventually have to hone past +17
yes
so the +17 on my chosen will be +17 on relic
yes
is there a general best path to progressing from punika pass + express passes to get a char rdy rn? like a step by step, 1. boost char, 2. enhance everything to (x), 3. Do this thing, 4. Clear this raid, 5. ETC you know? would hhelp a lot
Unas tokens, life skills, and the same Legion Raids
+adventure island,chaos gate,field boss,dailys
Use the punika power pass, activate hyper express, hone
what relic armor do i get for paladin
yearning
so swamp of yearning
yes
It does indeed
is it not worth honing past this before the new gear? it'[s 1490 rn
don't hone past 1490 unless you have a damn good reason to do so
just go do brel
hone everything else equally
I c
nah it's a alt it will be a awhile till it does brel Ig
I am also scared to get 1475 since it's how hard it is to get into lobbies for clown and you also lose argos gold..
then you should stop at 1472.5ilvl so you can keep getting argos gold, unless you have some static for clown
hmm
Or just gather mats to go directly from 1472 to 1490
there's no benefit to hitting 1475 unless you can do clown, but there is some benefit to being at 1490
everything between is useless
imo, the 1475 chaos rewards is way more worth than argos gold
even if u dont do clown
that's what I am doing for my main, stacking mats and gold, making a good base then willo push at once
i don't think 1475 chaos rewards is worth more than argos gold but i haven't looked at the data
I rarely do chaos

The way things are everything you do give more gold than argos
I am not pushing any characters rn so I don't really need it
your gonna regret not doing your chaos, espseically if you want to push that alt in the future, imo
unless you have like pre stacks of mats already
but each to their own 
Do at least rested chaos
exactly what I do.
well if you want to then you can compare the numbers for 1445 vs 1475 chaos here
and then see if it adds up to more than 1000g a week vs however many chaos a week
is that rested value?
this is chaos rewards per day (leaps excluded because...i don't know, ask the creator)
it's per 2 runs so sure, equal to one rested run
it's in #info-dump if you want the full chart
rested run gives 60k at max on 1445 so that's probably value for 2x rested or the numbers are just wrong..
why run chaos when guardian give you way more gold by selling the mats?
chaos gives more mats in general, and if you're actually using the mats then it has higher value than the gold from guardian
for the shards
Chaos Dungeons are actually the more effective thing to be doing every day as they give more materials in general
if you only want gold then guardian gives more
are you including all the drops over the whole run minus any special portals? it's not only the end result screen that matters
ic
I only run chaos (rested) aside from that i don't run this shitty at all.
the rest gives like 60k more? I highly doubt that
then compile your own data and show it
uh not the data, the results
what is even the question now, i lost track 
i can confirm at least that the guardian raids are correct, 'cause that's about how much deskaluda gives
The leapstones alone gives you way more gold than anything else.
i don't know why they didn't record leaps from chaos in this chart but that's not something i can do something about
yeah
only reason for me to even do chaos is the shards imo
again, we stated that chaos has more value because of the mats
if you only want gold, you do guardians because chaos doesn't give any consistently
shards, silver, gems
it is very similar to guardian runs but they are bound so..
a gem level 5 per day i can assume?
or maybe even more depending on how much alts you have
I would say less
kayangel is light right? so los30 sucks?
its still useful for raw dmg, you just wont get that 10% bonus for holy dmg
los30 is still 15% damage, that beats out everything unless you have legion commanders 18
...the hell is that set called
just call it dark
klc, delicious

what are all the elgacia prequest? i did the gate of paradise opens, and all the wisdom isle ones
havent gotten any of those cards
, game dont like me
This is the help lmao
so okay i have all the quests done then
try clicking the link
what merchant exchanges guardian tokens for silver?
event
found it, ty
anyone know the rewards for fortune spire p2?
Masterpiece collectible, Greater Skill Point Potion, honing materials, and more
i wanna know the more
ok ty
where is a good place to level hunting
starbeach,svern
THANKYOUUU
Do we need to do the gate of paradise on each char or just our main will unlock it?
any char i believe, but all quests on 1 char for if shit happens
for chaos dungeons i just click on matching and wait or ?
what does it mean when they say reclear when searching for parties
U enter , dont do them in group
u can solo, it scale to player
Reclear means that u cleared it already
Means you already cleared it before
it's better to do it solo?
experience run, less dying, knowing whats up
yea
its just that i've been playing solo for like 50 hours now i thought unlocking dungeons would mean some multiplayer
if we dont have any powerpasses ,can we get another free one by doing story to vern?
No
rip i gota do everything over for x2 charcs
Just KT them
kt?
Not in the same way, no
cost a bunch of gold
North Vern KT is the only one that gives gear
The rest are all just story skips
zzz
so when do i start doing team gameplay xd
guardian raid/legions
guardian raids are the most common and easy "team player" stuff
and it has random matchmaking?
abyss dungeons is kind of easy, HAVE to do with a party, cant enter solo
yeah guardians you can just yolo matchmake
but
have in mind
as soon as you hit 1460, you want to ask what battle items to use
Are these rewards for every character? Or only the character that claims? rewards from rapport levels
Kungelanium and above you have to start using battle items, such as flares, corrosive grenades, pheromone bombs etc
roster
rosterwide stuff
get it once and done
yes, only 1 can claim but the buff is for roster as well y?
y
you can get it 100 times
you will only get 5 points ever
(some quests give one of those)
by her own admission some of them have a pretty heavy abuse angle. Ill let you decide whether youre keen for that or not.
are you supose to use your relic tool in platinum fields?
if you have one, why not
what timezone is the maintenance? + what time
sorry i just saw the event. its in 4 hours right?
Anyone who can help with the field boss: hermut (liebertane)? I'm planning to touch the mysterious stone barrier for 20min invincibility
in Una server
~< i just joined the server and im not sure if this is the right place but i played awhile ago and then stopped ;-; and now im not sure what im doing or how to play. If anyone is willing to explain / help me relearn id appreciate it >~<
4h 30min about
to get song of resonance it says to trade at a boat?
same
asking your region chat would be a better idea for that
👍
oh I see
Click the mokoko challenge
okay!
if you played the game before they give u free a punika pass and a whole lot of other stuff, I just started yesterday
If you are not ilvl 1445
use the punika pass to skip to lvl 50 and get to what I think is early end game
;-; wht if im already lvl 50
then figure it out and lmk.. I am lost too rn 💀 
Ive just been doing the quests that are left over, i really dont know what my true objective should be rn
Combat level is not what you want to focus on, item level is what you use to determine your progress
Guys how to I use the completed stone tablet in south Vern?
Out of the mage classes, what are y'alls thoughts on them? I'm curious of peoples thoughts on overall fun, competitiveness and ease of use for a brand new player
bard is a fun support, summoner is really cool, arcana is too complicated for my pea brain, sorc is summoner but less fun
is my opinion on mage
I'd still like opinions
sorc is your usual spellcaster from all rpg games in existence, summoner close 2nd but with pokemons, arcana with cards, fast moves
bard support
you can always watch gameplay videos about them
you can also read the community guides
again, all of them are good
and no i dont play any mages but bard
Yeah i know the guides are a thing, just trying to get some actual player thoughts
.
I did see it, and appreciate!
Im trying to figure out who I want to use this power pass from the artist release on, before it expires
then sorc mains come and tell you sorc is best and summoner boring
its literally that
personal perspective, everyone will have different oppinions, all subjective or biased towards what they personally like most
so yeah
just pick 1, dps or support, if dps you go for cookiecutter mage, mage but with pokemons or yugioh player but harder to play (a bit)
or throw a dice, 2 numbers for each dps and whatever lands you pick

I do get that its personal perspective
But i think its also fair to try to get 3rd party thoughts
i have a sorc personally
but imo if i were to go back
i’d have made a summoner instead
3rd party thoughts only work if they have played both classes at endgame level (1490+)

my personal opinion:
- bard.. I'm a support main so this is no brainer
- sorc.. reflux because i have no brain
- summoner.. communication overflow because i like making others do my work
- arcanist.. because i have no brain
roll some dice and choose that way if you don't care enough to pick on your own
summoner poison swamp helps with party
where do i get the relic set to transfer?
got it.
is it 1:1 if i transfer? because i got 15 books from the event that expire soon
wondering if its worth to use the 15 books to try to get +19/+20
Legendary to Relic is 1:1 transfer, no progress is lost or gained 
What makes Paladin so boring compared to other supports?
i understand. thank you
:o anybody free to look at my inventory and tell me what to do with it XD idk wht any of these items/chests do
Long ish cooldowns, low effort skills, a general monotone playstyle, this is my outside perspective knowledge of Paladin as I don't play it. These parts to it can be boring to most people
always people about
;-; ?
Yes someone is free
In the immortal words of I forget who:
Don't ask to ask, just ask
@cinder jetty
:o okies ill be in vc for awhile to share screens
can just send screenshots
how do i get to do the daily for defense match?
can i play through elgacia without having cleared rowen
rowen story is actually good tho
personal take
brug
cliche sacria plot bedge
wat ilvl r u?
50
They mean item level, not combat (character) level.
srry >-<
Is story express something that happens often
The current story express is the first time we've had it, I'm quite sure it will be common for every class release in the future
oh crap which one
