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[timber root]

i mean both are great, no need for pay to win shenanigans

[jaunty warren]

Hey Guys, i need some help because i cannot find any solution for my problem on the internet cause i nearly tried everything i could find:
After some time i wanted to play Lost Ark again, so i installed it on my SSD and tried to launch it. Now my Problem: Steam says that the game is currently launching, but i could not get past the easy anti cheat window disappearing. its just stuck at this point and i cant figur out why. I set up the game to launch it as administrator, set some launch command like -fullscreen and -force-d3d9, i tried to repair the files and updated all drivers but i seems nothing is working. i launch the game, the easy anti cheat window loads, it disappears and after that nothing happens for ages... does anyone has another idea or maybe a solution? i just want to play this awesome game again...

[opal zealot]

So I just completed the Story Express and finished the S Vern questline.

Do I start honing now before I jump into dungeons and guardian raids?

[shy chasm]

are you still in svern?

@opal zealot

[opal zealot]

Hey. I got ported to n vern castle.

But ye literal just finished the questline 5 min ago

I also have hyper exprerss active and wana hone to 1445 before the event ends

[shy chasm]

so you wanna go too the honing npc in vern they are at the bottom of the map witha a hammer icon

[opal zealot]

If possible

[rigid plank]

Does the game close by itself after the EAC window disappears? If it doesn't and still runs for a while, that means it's still loading. This game loads ridiculously slow and I can see why you may think something is wrong.

[shy chasm]

ye so click the gear

[opal zealot]

Also should I pop the 50x box of t3 accs I got?

I will need to hoena ccs too right?

[shy chasm]

if you want to

no

just gear

[opal zealot]

Oh you dont hone accs?

Really?

[shy chasm]

no

[opal zealot]

Huh

[shy chasm]

accs come prerolled stats

[opal zealot]

Are there breakpoints and stuff I need to be aware of when honing?

[shy chasm]

no

[opal zealot]

Or can I just spam all slots?

Hmm

[shy chasm]

ye just spam your goal is to get to 15 on all

[opal zealot]

My goal is 1445 for the express rewards

[shy chasm]

oh ye i forgot the give legendary gear

[jaunty warren]

unfortunally the game doesnt even show in the task manager so i dont know. i tried to let it load for half n hour but nothing happens... the easy anti cheat window shows in the task manager but as soon as the window closes it disappears from the task manager too

[shy chasm]

as thinking of blue mb lol

[shy chasm]

so 17 on all then

[opal zealot]

Ok.

I hope I have enough mats to get it done

I waste dlike 25kk honor shards lol

By swapping cahrs mid express

[shy chasm]

thats nothing really

shard/silver costs get progressively higher when you get to +18-20

[shy chasm]

also the event guardians if you havent done them give a good amount of mats

[rigid plank]

Ok so if you've repaired files and forced admin and all that stuff, I could suggest just launching the game multiple times (sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't). Other options after that are restarting your computer and clean reinstall of the game.

[opal zealot]

I have not touched raids or dungeons yet ye

So I shoul hone this free leggy gear right?

[shy chasm]

ye

[opal zealot]

Not farm a more relecant set?

ok coolio

Ty mate

Wish me luck!

[shy chasm]

you unlock ability to farm set at 17

[rose wren]

have u looked through details tab in task manager to find anything? takes about 5minutes to load this damn game, maybe check windows firewall again, see if u didn't misclick to not allow it to run

[tacit cliff]

As a support is it worth rerolling my swamp of yearning gear quality?

[midnight nimbus]

I heard there was a surprise or something last week. Did they say what it was?

[balmy plank]

Higher quality = more hp = bigger sheilds. dmg buff scales from atk pwr from wep

[rigid plank]

i think that surprise was the academy debate club

[opal zealot]

what do I do with all my t2-1 resources?

Can I exhcnage them for t3?

OR are they just wasted?

[timber mauve]

If they’re character bound, you can sell them to a general merchant for 1 silver each.

If they’re tradeable/roster bound, you can use them on alts.

[opal zealot]

Seems like a bad deal lol

Ok thanks

[timber mauve]

Tbh, there aren’t really many sources of bound t1-2 mats.

Most are given in boxes that are roster bound or just straight up tradeable.

[uncut dagger]

anyone knows how to do [Achievement] So Scandalous to ge a Krause card?

[rigid plank]

https://lostarkcodex.com/us/achievement/10010073/

[uncut dagger]

I see

but there is no Affection lvl

or does that mean the max lvl ?

[rigid plank]

Sasha has a level of rapport above the normal Trusted level that is called Affection

[opal zealot]

What shuld I do with all of my old accs from story express?

Should I just vendor them?

[shy chasm]

ye

any t1-2 acc are useless once you hit t3

[opal zealot]

And the t3 ones?

Can I sell them on the AH?

Or nah?

[shy chasm]

use for stats for your engraving sup

what class are you playing

[opal zealot]

Striker

Probably going ESO

DB seems like it's gonna cost too much

Although I do have engraving support

[lavish grove]

The Ultimate Striker Infoset

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​

Striker Community Guide

This information was created by community members · Jun 7, 2023, 6:10 PM

[opal zealot]

IF I rng good spec accs might be viable?

[shy chasm]

if your using engraving sup all that matters is stats

[opal zealot]

Ok

[shy chasm]

so just want hugh quality acc regardless of engravings in them

[opal zealot]

And t3 epic accs?

Vendor?

I have 50x of those I can open still

[vagrant veldt]

That's the beauty of engraving support, you can try any build you want for free!

[vast oriole]

take anything that has your stats

[uncut dagger]

ty alot guys ❤️

[opal zealot]

Is it reccomneded I go ESO?

[shy chasm]

you play what you want

[opal zealot]

Like. The only differences between ESO and DB are accs and engravings right?

[shy chasm]

guide i linked has pros and cons of each spec

[opal zealot]

And seeing as I have eng sup

Thast tken care of

I kinda get the pros and cons

DB is pretty much better

[vagrant veldt]

Likely different abilities and play styles as well but yeah

[opal zealot]

But expensive

[shy chasm]

so is any other spec class really so i mean

[opal zealot]

Is it not vaible as a new player?

That kinda of expensive?

[shy chasm]

books on eso are only cheap cuz ppl usually go class 1

[opal zealot]

I feel like. Its more effeicient to go DB early cost wise as I will pivot to it later right?

[vagrant veldt]

Doesn't matter since you have engrave suppoet

[lapis prawn]

how does quality upgrade

works?

[opal zealot]

Ot is it prohibitavle expensive early?

[floral saffron]

spam gold till you get the qual upgrade

[opal zealot]

And gems, runes tripods?

Same investment reqs for both?

[shy chasm]

its in guide

[vagrant veldt]

The guide will detail more precisely what's needed there

[opal zealot]

Ok ok

Leme give it a read

[vagrant veldt]

But again with free level 5 gems and amulets you can Speedrun the bulk of the startup cost for free

[opal zealot]

How does one get the free gems?

[vagrant veldt]

One of the rewards

Probably max level

[rose wren]

thats on hyper express

[vagrant veldt]

Yeah we are on hyper express correct

Otherwise I am straight lying right now

[shy chasm]

you get it at 1400 reward

[opal zealot]

Im on exzpress 1

No gems I can see

Maybe its hyper 2

[floral saffron]

they both give gems

[shy chasm]

its both

[vagrant veldt]

It's on both

[opal zealot]

Oh right you are

I stand corrected

[rose wren]

no, look through the ilvl rewards

they're also free roll

[opal zealot]

Maybe I should just go DB

Hmm

ESo seems more begginer friendly tho being able to spam more

[vagrant veldt]

I assume someone has already said to just go what's more fun

Since the difference between damage usually isn't like insane

[shy chasm]

you can always switch between both whenever you like just have to change accs since gems are free

[opal zealot]

True. I gues ill get more setup and playtest both in a endgame setting

So I should start doing raids now right?

[shy chasm]

did you hit 1415 yet?

[opal zealot]

Not yet

1395

I need a few more mats

[shy chasm]

you can run argos for some leaps

[opal zealot]

Should I save my leapstone chests and farm some leaps?

OIr I can pop them and try push for 1415 first

[vast oriole]

take them

[opal zealot]

Do I get more rewards at 1415?

[shy chasm]

no but you get relic accs

which you will repleace for the leg ones

[opal zealot]

Ok ill push for 1415 then I guess

[shy chasm]

you should run argos it give a good amount of leaps

[vast oriole]

did you run oreha?

[opal zealot]

Nothing yet

Literal not a single raid or dungeon

Just story express

[vast oriole]

should do it before 1415

[opal zealot]

I also need these guys

[opal zealot]

Is that a gaurdian raid?

[vast oriole]

abyss dungeon

[opal zealot]

thats it right?

Can I solo it?

Or should I try match?

[lavish grove]

The Ultimate Destroyer Infoset

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​

Destroyer Community Guide

This information was created by community members · Jun 7, 2023, 6:30 PM

[vast oriole]

u cant enter as 1

[opal zealot]

I see ye

[vast oriole]

do find aprty

check if therres ''free carry no bid'' parties

[opal zealot]

None

Just gonna match

[vast oriole]

card runs?

[opal zealot]

Somen guy selling gold

lol

[vast oriole]

well i guess u can try to matchmake

[wheat swan]

Can you still dismantle them as they are now in the special inventory? I tried it but it didn't work.

[timber mauve]

Exchange at abyss trade npc

[opal zealot]

Should I buy that?

Probably not im guessing?

[vast oriole]

i would, it gives leapstones

[opal zealot]

Ok

Ok and now I push to 1415 and then do a gaurdian raid?

Not bad for DB right?

[timber mauve]

Do it

[opal zealot]

You want a crit/spec mix?

[timber mauve]

Yeah, but eh.

You’ll be swapping all those acc out for a real build once you reach 1415+ and unlock relic acc.

[opal zealot]

Ah hok

[lime summit]

is this the hyper express?

[rose wren]

yep

[lime summit]

o then just get the proper stat for now

[vast oriole]

do the second one btw

[lime summit]

^

[opal zealot]

Second what?

[vast oriole]

abyss

[opal zealot]

Hard?

[vast oriole]

yes

[opal zealot]

Ok after the first you mean?

[vast oriole]

yes

[opal zealot]

gotcha

[vast oriole]

you do aira and oreha preveza

[opal zealot]

goodd timing lol was about to hit 1415 xD

[vast oriole]

sorry didnt precise

[opal zealot]

Nah you are good. Thanks for the info mate you are being super helpful ❤️

Is it true that ESO is getting buffed next patch?

Some guy in my guild mentioned it but I kind find any info when I google

[rose wren]

does it matter? its all about fun

[outer mason]

https://lostark.game.onstove.com/News/TesterNotice/Views/33
Korean balance patch that happened on May 12th 2023
It might happen for us on next patch, maybe not
If you're talking about Esoteric Flurry, it's getting a significant buff
8/13/18% -> 15/22/30%

[vast oriole]

probably in july or august with akkan

[lime summit]

mm not really? spec tth does decent damage its utility kinda lacking though

[vast oriole]

people gatekeep for any reason

if you like spec tth, play it

[floral saffron]

tth kinda sucks for hyper express

[floral saffron]

bc you want lvl 1 peacemaker on it

[opal zealot]

Where can I farm those?

[lime summit]

farming or life skills excavating/hunting/fishing

or buy mats from the market and craft in sh

[opal zealot]

Interesting. Maybe I will jsut run ESO then

[opal zealot]

Rip

I cant push my gear level then

[lime summit]

you can also just buy it from the market

[opal zealot]

Got a 3 days lockout on my acc so cant use the market

[lime summit]

o

rip

time to bust out the shovel

[opal zealot]

I guess so

[timber mauve]

I play both tth and pm. Personally, I’d never play spec tth, I’d rather play pm instead. If imma be slow, might as well play the higher dps build.

[lime summit]

tth comfy tho

[timber mauve]

Tbh, keeping track on cd isn’t too bad. It’s really just rotation things at that point.

I play full swift tth and pm

[uncut dagger]

after completing affection with Sasha I will get one Krause card immediately ?

[fluid seal]

is there any way to get 1 pheon other than f4 & event shop?

[lime summit]

wait thats sasha

lmao

i would use lost merchants if you really wanna complete deepdive/you have a plan 18

[lime summit]

nope

maybe amethyst shop but thats 10 or 25 idr

you cant skip gates in inferno

[silver mirage]

Which title

The one with the icon requires a full deathless run on all gates consecutively

[vast oriole]

krause is from arthetine wandering merchant

[uncut dagger]

yea but I see that he can be aquired from that achievement too

or did I got it wrong ?

[lime summit]

oh i guess it is

probably wouldnt go for it though affection is alot of rapport

up to you

[vast oriole]

its not worth it

and tbh, i dont find the achievement in game

[lime summit]

its hidden

you dont see it til you complete it

[vast oriole]

ah yeah im stupid

[lime summit]

apparently

[vast oriole]

i forgot about that

you need 103 700 rapport for it

its clearly not worth

[opal zealot]

If I wana level excavating do I need to be in a starter zone?

[vast oriole]

just get it from merchant

[lime summit]

you want to excavate in a t3 zone

like secret forest in punika

[opal zealot]

T3 as in like south vern/punika?

[lime summit]

or niheltalops thoughts

yes

[opal zealot]

Ah hok

Even as a low level I can excavate in those zones?

[lime summit]

because the oreha mats only come from t3 zones

[vast oriole]

yes

[lime summit]

yes you can

[opal zealot]

Sweet

ty

[lime summit]

if youre excavating look for the hourglass looking symbol

[rose wren]

niheltalops thoughts best imo but depends on time

[lime summit]

i think bellion is but since you're not 1415 yet idt you can go there

[opal zealot]

Which continenet is that?

[lime summit]

south vern

o niheltalop is an island

[opal zealot]

Yep csure can

[rose wren]

in the dead water by south vern

[opal zealot]

Its an island?

[lime summit]

yep

[opal zealot]

ty

[noble osprey]

Does it matter what class you pick or does it matter

[rose wren]

whats the point if u let some1 else chooses for u? how can it be fun if its not ur style

[lime summit]

play what you like

[noble osprey]

Tbh im all bout the damage

So im wondering if it matters

[lime summit]

if youre chasing the meta it matters a little but every class can pretty easily do all the content

[noble osprey]

Im also about the costumes

[lost sun]

why cant i use my powerpass in a different server?

shouldnt i be able to?

[noble osprey]

Also witch woman char

Has the best costumes

Or all the females lit?

[rose wren]

depends what fashion u want

[pseudo atlas]

no, powerpasses are server locked

[noble osprey]

Emo thick mami style

[rose wren]

most female have biniki

[lucid osprey]

u would need to unlock it there

ur powerpass u have is in server only

[noble osprey]

I can work with that 2

[lost sun]

ok but I just completed vern on a new server and didnt get a powerpass?

[rose wren]

we also dont have every outfit release compare to KR

[pseudo atlas]

they're also once per region

[noble osprey]

Sounds like ima need lots money fora lota space

How much is a kr acc tbh?

[lost sun]

so you basically can only use powerpass on the very first server you made your character on?

[rose wren]

also outfits can be dyed

u cant buy kr

[noble osprey]

Or more like where the ⓕ do I get a kr acc

[pseudo atlas]

you get the powerpass on whatever character you finished the requirements for the first time on any region, and whatever server that character is on is the server you must use the powerpass on

[gaunt bolt]

yo am I allowed to ask for anyones old t2 stones?

[pseudo atlas]

you can ask for them but you aren't gonna get anywhere because they're bound to char and untradable after faceting

[noble osprey]

In ur opinion tho who is the sexiest female for u

[pseudo atlas]

also nobody knows what server you're on to trade to you

[gaunt bolt]

shit might as well on the off chance

[rose wren]

thats a tough 1, tho i think at the moment slayer has the biggest boobies

[noble osprey]

Dam like u right my g but damn the class for me is just not fun

Are they gonna make slayer any new classes tho and soon??

Or like many years after I pass

[rose wren]

no idea, next KR release class is an assassin type

[noble osprey]

Hope the reaper ain’t a let down tbh

[rose wren]

i see plenty of reaper abouts

[noble osprey]

Wait wats the new classes called?

Cos im used to calling anything with a synth a reaper

Damn auto correct

[rose wren]

souleater

[noble osprey]

Oh yea yea

Thats a sus name tbh

[rose wren]

class coming to west region next is aeromancer

[noble osprey]

So forst is aeromancer and for kr reaper

Soul eater I mean

[rose wren]

yep

[opal zealot]

Are these pretty rare?

[rose wren]

nope

[noble osprey]

Hope souleater ain’t a let down

[opal zealot]

Hmm

done like 10 excas no luck

[noble osprey]

What about the new scrapper male class?

Is that for us or kr

[radiant flame]

You have to craft them

From the materials

You don’t excavate fusion materials directly …

[lime summit]

^

[opal zealot]

Oh I see

Do I need a stronghold for that?

[radiant flame]

Yes

[opal zealot]

Can I insta craft or do I need to spend time setting up the inrastructure?

[radiant flame]

You need to research it

[opal zealot]

Fack

[radiant flame]

You also kind of need a bit of infrastructure to not lose money

[opal zealot]

I have 2 days to complete this hyper pass

And cant trade for mats

[radiant flame]

I mean you can research it straight away

It doesn’t take long

[noble osprey]

Ayo like in a pick a party witch of these 2 would u chose a scrapper or striker

[lime summit]

tai or shock db or eso

[noble osprey]

My brain cells died from that text

I have no idea what that is

[lime summit]

taijutsu or shock training scrapper vs eso or db striker

they play very differently

probably everything over db striker though cause those mfers greedy

[noble osprey]

I mean they do say at end game striker gotta go death blow

Idk about scrapper

[lime summit]

you dont have to go dblow its just stronger with less utility

[radiant flame]

I always take a tai scrapper

They have amazing utility

[lime summit]

i would too but they do no dmg

[radiant flame]

Honestly best in the game

[lime summit]

[radiant flame]

I mean please do not misinform

Tai scrapper damage is pretty good

For consistent DPS

Also has very easy uptime

Don’t just call out classes for doing “no damage” because that is fundamentally not true for any class

And leads to at least some of the toxic gatekeeping when people actually believe that

I have mvped on hanumatan with my on ilvl scrapper in a fight that doesn’t even favour swift/crit classes

[faint pagoda]

gib emote

[lime summit]

hanu .. def favors swift crit

[radiant flame]

No. Why does it

It gives crit and CDR

[noble osprey]

Hm

[signal vessel]

im confused on progression

[noble osprey]

This is def a head scratcher

[lime summit]

because unlike other classes with set burst you can fire off your rotation every 2s

[noble osprey]

[radiant flame]

Which crit Swift classes already have

[lime summit]

you do not fire off your rotation every 2s

[noble osprey]

Im have to call a meeting of all brain cells to outmaneuver this question out

[queen stag]

whats the gear order for relic brel gear

[radiant flame]

You sir do not understand rotations

[lime summit]

i mean i guess i dont play swift crit/spec classes

[radiant flame]

You clearly dont

[lime summit]

my sf can do all it wants with 40% cdr but i still have to wait 15s for hype to come back up

so how does it favor me more

[radiant flame]

Hanumatan favours spec burst because you literally build gauge and burst faster

[lime summit]

or my sorc needs 1.5 rotations and its still 15s to build meter

[radiant flame]

Eg igniter

Is limited by how quickly it can refill meter and recast

[faint pagoda]

gimma dat emote

[radiant flame]

How is it the same. it gives cdr

[lime summit]

is not my emote

[noble osprey]

Ayo SF?

[lime summit]

you know that you dont hit cap cdr even on swift classes right

[radiant flame]

Your second 0.5 rotation is necessarily faster

[shut pasture]

What is confusing you about progression?

[radiant flame]

And your doomsday comes off cd faster

You get more igniter bursts in

[lime summit]

doomsday is the last cd you worry about in any meter gaining scenario

[timber mauve]

You have to have a Korean phone number which is linked to a Korean SSN. If you have a South Korean citizenship, shouldn’t be too hard to get an account.

[lime summit]

[radiant flame]

and you will always crit

Whatever. You can believe what you want

Just don’t spout zdps crap here

It’s not helpful

Because it’s not true

[noble osprey]

Sound like I need a Korean homie

[shut pasture]

zdps is a meme term thats gotten out of hand

Being taken literally

[lime summit]

it has

[shut pasture]

When its a joke

[lime summit]

i said it as a joke tho

i said i would take em cause utility

[shut pasture]

We had someone in here yesterday saying it and taking it literally

[radiant flame]

Why. You are telling someone a class does “no damage”

[lime summit]

yeah

[radiant flame]

In a help channel

[lime summit]

i say all of my classes do 0 dmg

[radiant flame]

Whatever

[noble osprey]

What would be the most difficult class

[radiant flame]

Different people find different things difficult

Probably arcana on a general level

Because her identity is super unique and needs some knowledge

About the cards

[noble osprey]

Hmmm

[radiant flame]

Some people find back attacking just hard

[shut pasture]

Standardly though maybe Reaper would be considered just sort of "in general" more difficult since its a squishy class and people often get slapped while playing it

[radiant flame]

Some people find high apm hard

[shut pasture]

But otherwise, yeah its subjective mainly

I can't do Gunslinger cuz of the gun swapping. Too much for my dent to handle

[radiant flame]

You got to try stuff out yourself

[rigid plank]

some of the generally hard(er) classes are deadeye, reaper, arcana, gunslinger

[noble osprey]

Ay that one

Im go for that one

[radiant flame]

Igniter spec for some people is “easy” because you run around and “do nothing” and then burst in one go

[shut pasture]

Well I also can't do Gunslinger cuz I hate playing ranged classes

But yeah

[noble osprey]

Skill difficulty use is what I’m looking

For

[radiant flame]

But I find it hard because I hate how slow sorcs are and the combo is a bit stressful 🤷🏻‍♂️

[radiant flame]

What?

Difficult skills to use?

You want them to be difficult?

[noble osprey]

What the mighty hell is a sorc?

[shut pasture]

Sorceress

[radiant flame]

A sorceress

[noble osprey]

Yea more fun

[radiant flame]

Idk no skills are hard per se

It’s not like an aprg where you have difficult skillshots to land or whatever

As I said if you want “difficult” mechanics to master then play arcana

Because you have to deal with both a card system and if you play empress some weird stacking system

[noble osprey]

Guess im have to watch a vid bout her to see how the skills look and play out then

[radiant flame]

But no “skills” are difficult really

Every class/build has their own quirks

[noble osprey]

So like no chain attacks?

[radiant flame]

No

[noble osprey]

Fk

[radiant flame]

No such thing in this game

[noble osprey]

Damn

[radiant flame]

The closest is animation cancel

And that’s only relevant really for one class (igniter sorceress which I’ve mentioned)

And there’s a couple of other classes where it makes a very minor difference

[noble osprey]

I really love chain attacks tbh

[faint pagoda]

what do you mean by chain attacks

[noble osprey]

im sad

[faint pagoda]

[radiant flame]

Do you mean like combos, like on PSO

[noble osprey]

Wats pso

[radiant flame]

Or other hack and slash games

[faint pagoda]

phantasy star online

[noble osprey]

That game wack for me

[shut pasture]

What game are you coming from?

[radiant flame]

But no there are no chain/combo that affects the skills themselves

[noble osprey]

I come from many games

[radiant flame]

There are often defined combos for builds which enable the best damage

But that’s purely to optimise damage

[noble osprey]

The one I was playing before this is mw2 tbh

[shut pasture]

Sure, but I mean where is the chain attack stuff originating from? Which game?

[noble osprey]

But if u want an explanation for chain attacks

I come from Elsword

[shut pasture]

Alright, gotcha

[atomic tide]

will i be able to make the full valtan relic gear in one week, or do i have to wait for two?

[faint pagoda]

two weeks

and you need to do vykas too

depending on the set youll miss either valtan or vykas pieces

[atomic tide]

okk

[noble osprey]

Is gunlancer still the goat or garbage??

[radiant flame]

You can only make “full relic” in one week by honing to 1550 or so

[radiant flame]

It’s fine

It’s a bit weird

It has a backwards dodge

[rose wren]

every class as usage

[shut pasture]

Its fine, but probably strange to play for people who like high APM and high mobility

[radiant flame]

It’s good utility (stagger and weak point)

[faint pagoda]

you kinda do need 6 pieces of brel to craft brel hard pieces tho

[shut pasture]

But every class is used

[radiant flame]

But kind of slow

[noble osprey]

I actually used to main it but then I quit the game

[radiant flame]

Oh for a first character I forgot

[noble osprey]

Im just asking if it’s still usable

[faint pagoda]

[noble osprey]

As a cosss

Class*

[radiant flame]

Yes all classes are useable

all

It’s just about if you like the class enough to 1. Raid with it and 2. Invest in it

[noble osprey]

So like there no such thing as a bad class?

[radiant flame]

I personally started with gunlancer but dropped it because I hated it

[radiant flame]

Correct

There are only bad players and badly geared characters

No class is bad

All classes can mvp

[noble osprey]

Hmmmm

Ight then

[radiant flame]

There is also a balance patch every 4 months or so. So good luck trying to meta chase with that

[noble osprey]

Gunlancer kinda go hard tho dude built like a tank and hit like one

[silver mirage]

All classes cannot mvp lol

[noble osprey]

I miss it but I don’t think ima play it

[silver mirage]

There are definitely higher performing classes

[radiant flame]

Of course

[noble osprey]

GOD DAMN IT I KNEW IT

[radiant flame]

But unless you party with people at max gear score

It’s not relevant

[noble osprey]

I WAS SCAMMED

[silver mirage]

wat

[radiant flame]

Not for someone at the beginning of the game

[silver mirage]

don't coddle someone just because they're newer

[rose wren]

i mvp without meta engraves ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[radiant flame]

???

I’m going to tell them to meta chase

Instead?

[noble osprey]

Wat u play tho?

[radiant flame]

Ok

[silver mirage]

just b realistic

[radiant flame]

I am being realistic

[rose wren]

i play a few classes

[radiant flame]

Every class can mvp

I have seen every class mvp

[hollow sphinx]

i mvp on minesweeper

[radiant flame]

Because in a pug scenario you get people with different skill and gear level

[noble osprey]

Even bard?

[radiant flame]

Like, how much more realistic do you want to be

[silver mirage]

give em the truth

[faint pagoda]

yup

valtan solo carry

[silver mirage]

u don't mvp on a lower performing class because u played well

[faint pagoda]

[silver mirage]

u mvp because the other ppl r shit

[radiant flame]

Right

[silver mirage]

and in that case it doesn't matter what u were playing

[radiant flame]

Good talk

That’s helpful

[noble osprey]

How in the holy light does bard mvp

[silver mirage]

dmg bard

[faint pagoda]

valtan ghost phase berserk

[radiant flame]

There are support components in mvp screen

[faint pagoda]

[silver mirage]

or u spam heal all fight

[noble osprey]

There’s such a thing

[radiant flame]

But anyway there is a specific damage component

[rose wren]

healing mvp is when team taking too much dmg

[radiant flame]

And yeah I’ve seen every single class get it 🤷🏻‍♂️

But sure. I’m not being realistic at all

All I’m saying is that you should play what you enjoy

Yes at the ultimate endgame and at theoretical skill ceiling, some classes perform better

That is the truth for all games with class differentials

I don’t think it’s useful to consider it when you’re starting out

Anyway if you play arcana it is also one of the “best” classes right now 🤷🏻‍♂️

[silver mirage]

Nah pick slayer

Slayer cracked

It's not even close

Biggest booba

Biggest dmg

[radiant flame]

As a first class. Ok. With super expensive books, tripods and accs

Good suggestion

[noble osprey]

Like damn define fun tbh cos I just wanna play all classes see was up

[silver mirage]

I mean real talk there are classes that are significant underperformers

Both transform classes are pretty underperforming

[radiant flame]

Yeah fuck it I’m done. Talking about meta in a help channel lol

[silver mirage]

Just to give you an idea

[shut pasture]

They just do damage on the lower end of the scale, thats all. That doesn't mean they are useless or don't do damage. They do more than enough damage to be able to get through content.

[boreal sentinel]

Play what you want

[noble osprey]

Meta always changes tbh

[shut pasture]

Play the class you want, if you want to try a bunch then try a bunch.

[boreal sentinel]

I think its unnecessary to distract new players with meta talk

[silver mirage]

DI SH got a straight 12-13% dmg buff in the latest balance patch

[radiant flame]

Pretty much this but apparently I am wrong

[shut pasture]

Also chasing meta in Lost Ark is a generally terrible idea

[boreal sentinel]

you arent

but lets avoid outbursts ok

[rose wren]

convo didn't start that way tho

[noble osprey]

Same in every game tho

[shut pasture]

Because alts require investment, and needing to then invest into making it your new main is even more

[silver mirage]

Has the meta significantly changed?

[radiant flame]

Honestly imagine telling someone new to “just pick slayer” and they come back in a couple of weeks and ask how they afford books and tripods

[silver mirage]

Has any high performing class really gotten gutted or anything

[shut pasture]

Not necessarily, its just in Lost Ark they have actually done a good enough job with PvE class balancing to where it isn't that much of an issue

[shut pasture]

Reaper, on its release.

[silver mirage]

LMAO

[radiant flame]

Yes. Reaper. PS SH. Shock scrapper. Punisher

[silver mirage]

Just reaper

All those other classes still slap

[shut pasture]

Yeah those other classes are fine

[boreal sentinel]

i wouldnt call punisher gutted

[silver mirage]

That reaper nerf was giga massive tho

[shut pasture]

The Punisher nerfs aren't going to gut it, its fine

[silver mirage]

It was something like 40 fucking percent

[radiant flame]

They all got nerfed a reasonable amount

Perfect depression meme did have an origin

[shut pasture]

But the high performing classes don't negate other classes

Fights are too mechanic heavy for that to be the case

[radiant flame]

Punisher 1.0 got nerfed ~15% or so? That’s still reasonably brutal for a first balance. I’m not saying gutted but it’s significant

[silver mirage]

Outside of reaper smilegate seems pretty content with bringing lower performing classes up rather than nerf hammering high performers

[shut pasture]

Sorc could vomit 100 mil hits per cast but if they can't do mechs or don't play properly it doesn't matter

[shut pasture]

It isn't 15%

[radiant flame]

Anyway. I’m not going to discuss this any more. Im no meta expert but this isn’t the place for it

[shut pasture]

And it isn't significant

[boreal sentinel]

yeah it isnt

this is help for new player

not #meta-talk

[foggy willow]

how can i get skill runes equippable please?

[shut pasture]

The most it will affect is less experienced Slayers who don't have adequate enough uptime during a raid

Thats about it

[radiant flame]

Check maxroll runes guide

[silver mirage]

Use it in your inventory

Then you can equip it in skill window

[foggy willow]

k ty!

[radiant flame]

And then yes right click in inventory

[shut pasture]

Because the less experienced Slayers damage was mostly coming from when they would dump a Bloodlust or Awakening hit into the boss

[radiant flame]

And drag to skills in your K menu

[silver mirage]

I mean what's the "cheapest" class

I'm guessing it's something that uses an uncommon stat spread and cheap books

[radiant flame]

On west it’s a lot of swiftness classes. So combine with less popular builds.

Swift tth, control, FI etc

[silver mirage]

I was thinking EO SF

[radiant flame]

Sf, Bt Zerk, destroyer 🤷🏻‍♂️

[silver mirage]

It's kind of a trade off though isn't it

These less popular classes can be hard to find accessories for

[radiant flame]

Shrug. Just the class acc

The trade off is more that it’s only cheap for the engravings

End of the day you still need gems

And those form the bulk of non-rng cost of your character

Swift tth uses 6 damage gems

5 of which should be 10

Surge you can get away with what, 3?

[silver mirage]

1

[radiant flame]

If not 1

🤷🏻‍♂️

[silver mirage]

Gems past 7 to avoid gatekeeping is pretty inefficient

[radiant flame]

Yeah idk, at some point if you push a class you just want to still do damage and contribute

My Swift tth is well geared for everything bar gems

I play it okay (I think)

But I mean, I do nothing compared to the rest of my static when I’m on 7s

[fast shoal]

how did i get the second awakening on my alts?

[shut pasture]

Once you complete it once on a character you can just go to Trixion and talk to Beatrice and you should be able to pick it up, or it should just be automatically available for you to use.

[noble osprey]

Can um artist be damage?

[shut pasture]

No.

No Support ever runs as damage

[noble osprey]

Fk

[floral saffron]

i mean it can, but GL getting in parties

[shut pasture]

Even with damage builds, Supports just do not compare to actual DPS classes

They just don't have the synergies and scaling for it

[noble osprey]

Just for once I need a painter that can do Damg

[frank beacon]

oh yeah?

[shut pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sarcastic-angry-doubtful-squint-gif-16461471

[noble osprey]

Paladin

[frank beacon]

my 1580 bard thinks otherwise

[noble osprey]

Fk

Nvm

[shut pasture]

Nope.

[frank beacon]

DPS bard

https://tenor.com/view/woody-woody-toy-story-sora-kh3-kh-gif-27223516

let me cook

[shut pasture]

Oh yeah? Getting MVP on Vertus in T1?

[noble osprey]

Bard???

[shut pasture]

He's joking

[noble osprey]

Paladin do Damg tho

[shut pasture]

It doesn't

[noble osprey]

Wym no ;-;

I see the videos ;-;

[shut pasture]

They are wildly over geared

[noble osprey]

[shut pasture]

For the particular content they are doing

In said videos

[timber mauve]

A dps paladin solo’d prokel in 1490 Brel nm.

But he was 1580 full lv10 gems

[frank beacon]

prokel bard

[noble osprey]

Can even get a holy man that does damage this som bullsh where armen charter when u need em

[shut pasture]

You hush with your nonsense

[frank beacon]

LOL

it can be done

[shut pasture]

No

What was your group doing? Sleeping?

[frank beacon]

no im just cracked

KR genes

[shut pasture]

No, that sounds like a bunch of other players asleep at the wheel

[frank beacon]

even if they did sleep

i was prokel

its 1v1

[pseudo atlas]

1580 bard doing prokel on nm and only getting 23% cruel is a literal joke

[frank beacon]

LOL

it was quick tho

that wasnt @ 1580

i havent mvp'd a single thing in hm brel

[tall wren]

Is it worth buying Brel boxes after 1580?

[olive saddle]

Hi

Which armor piece to lvl up first that best

That’s not a weapon

[floral saffron]

dps gloves

[olive saddle]

Thanks

How did u know I was dps?

[rose wren]

u have reaper icon

[floral saffron]

i was also gonna say for supp just whatever gives more vitality bc i dont know the answere

but you said thx before i finished typing

[uncut ivy]

is complete a cube stage with 5% or less hp no longer attainable?

[tall wren]

For Support its chestpiece

[noble osprey]

Between all assassins witch one is moe lit

[uncut ivy]

took my hp down to 1.5k from 75k and it didn't work

[noble osprey]

Do ppl pick destroyers for party’s?

[shut pasture]

Yes

Every class is taken into content

[noble osprey]

Ight lit

Does this game got that convert good to Dimond system or nah?

Gold*

[shut pasture]

Yes. You convert gold into Blue Crystals which are used for getting Crystalline Aura (the optional "subscription") among a variety of other things.

Red Crystal is the premium currency you spend money on.

[noble osprey]

Say huh

[shut pasture]

??

What?

[noble osprey]

So like do I have to sell my gold to get crystalline to get red crystal then I can buy a slot??

[shut pasture]

No, that isn't how it works.

[noble osprey]

This foken auto correct pissing me off

[shut pasture]

Blue Crystal does not convert into Red Crystal

You can only get more character slots for Red Crystal

Crystalline Aura does not give you Red Crystal

[noble osprey]

So with gold I can get red crystals?

[shut pasture]

With gold you get Blue Crystal

[noble osprey]

How do I get the red then?

[shut pasture]

Swiping aka real money

[noble osprey]

Sun of a bich

Money it is then

[frank beacon]

what have you done

[tall wren]

what does lit mean

[noble osprey]

🔥

[shut pasture]

Like...exciting or awesome or something

Zoomer speak

[noble osprey]

Wats a zoomer

[tall wren]

I mean to you

[noble osprey]

Im a space chomer

[tall wren]

what does lit mean toyou

[noble osprey]

Uhhhhhhh

[tall wren]

You could wait a few weeks and see if they announce Soul Eater in Loaon

[noble osprey]

My brain not compute tbh

[shut pasture]

I think they mean what kind of class would be more interesting to you

[noble osprey]

Uhhh yea that I think

[shut pasture]

It would still be probably 6+ months away for us even if they did

[noble osprey]

Maybe 1 year or 3

[tall wren]

The other two optiosn is DB and Reaper

and imo reaper much more fun

[noble osprey]

IMO?

[frank beacon]

ok boomer

YALL ARE SO OLD

[tall wren]

in my opinion

[noble osprey]

Whats imo?

[frank beacon]

^

yall are so old man

[noble osprey]

My autocorrect just replaced it in caps

[shut pasture]

I am. I do not talk like that...to me its the equivelant of when I was in high school with people going "el oh el oh em gee thats so cray"

[tall wren]

https://tenor.com/bES1f.gif

[frank beacon]

are you over 30

[noble osprey]

Nah mate im a space chomer

[shut pasture]

Yes

In my 30s

[frank beacon]

when i say my bday year

i have to say "2000 and" if that gives u an idea

here

[shut pasture]

Yup, zoomer

[frank beacon]

zoomiest

[noble osprey]

So wats imo?

[frank beacon]

do I give off zoomer vibes? some ppl say I talk like i'm older

[frank beacon]

in my opinion

i m o

thats what it stands for

[noble osprey]

Oh

[floral saffron]

you talk like ur 5

[silk shard]

I think Soup is like 19

[noble osprey]

Didn’t notice it

[frank beacon]

Eun gonna crush ur skull

[shut pasture]

Just when I see people, even ones around my goddamn age, say shit like "pog" and "monkas" and shit all I can think about is that same line "el oh el oh em gee thats so cray" and it makes me cringe lol

[frank beacon]

21

[floral saffron]

sounds like a fun time

[noble osprey]

So many ppl talking I thought it was for someone else

[tall wren]

"i masturbate often"

[shut pasture]

And I don't mean typing it, I mean verbally saying this stuff

[frank beacon]

okay i dont do this tbh

actually nvm

i say pog irl

[shut pasture]

Typing it is whatever, but verbally saying it to me is just shudder

[floral saffron]

pogu

[frank beacon]

my gf legit JUST said pog over my shoulder and is repeating everything you just said. thanks paper

[shut pasture]

You're welcome.

[frank beacon]

nightmare fuel

[shut pasture]

Happy to help

[tall wren]

poggers that's lit of her fr fr

[noble osprey]

Intelligent Mango Oath

[frank beacon]

STOP ENCOURAGING

[noble osprey]

Im stuck between 3 blades or the dagger

[tall wren]

dagger

more fun

[noble osprey]

Hm

Ight then

[tall wren]

unless you like huge numbers

[floral saffron]

will also end up getting gatekept more though so

[noble osprey]

Who do huge numbers

[frank beacon]

wtf is 3 blades vs dagger

[tall wren]

DB Surge

[frank beacon]

what game are we playing

oh

play 3 blades

surge

reaper is sleeper

[tall wren]

Reaper is fun

[noble osprey]

I seen a reaper clear mojojojo in like 4 minutes tho

[tall wren]

zooming around

[frank beacon]

they take like

so much more to build bc

nobody accepts them

bc of stigma

[tall wren]

kewk

[noble osprey]

Stigma?

Wats that

[floral saffron]

reapers already get perma gatekept

[tall wren]

ppl say reaper floor pov

[floral saffron]

reaper + low roster is never getting in raids tbh

[frank beacon]

the class was broken and. it got nerfed into the ground. so there is just a thing now where ppl dont take reapers

bc of it

the class is still fine but

people think its awful without playing it

bc of the nerfs and etc

[noble osprey]

Well shit

[signal vessel]

if i transfer my preordience onto my dominion do i lose my levels from the preordience? or will it transfer all my levels

[noble osprey]

How bout SW?

[tall wren]

Its getting buffs tho

[frank beacon]

SH?

[noble osprey]

Do she do damage?

[frank beacon]

SH is decent but still weaker side

sometimes

[floral saffron]

we love demonic

[noble osprey]

Oh yea SH

[frank beacon]

demonic is fun though

[floral saffron]

2 gems

[timber mauve]

With gear transfer, you’ll always end up the same ilvl or higher.

[frank beacon]

and wont have issues

[signal vessel]

i okay thank you

[frank beacon]

play whichever you enjoy most

in the preview tbh man

[noble osprey]

Demon mode fun tho

[frank beacon]

yeah

it is

[noble osprey]

But. Damn guess DB it is

[tall wren]

give up and play slayer

[frank beacon]

just run with whichever you feel is best

[noble osprey]

Cos big numbes

[tall wren]

biggest ||numbers||

[noble osprey]

Blank?

[uncut ivy]

is complete a cube stage with 5% or less hp no longer attainable?

[tall wren]

But also

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/798663639493247036/1089917383700910090/i014232183098.gif

[noble osprey]

Booba tho

[tall wren]

I do think Slayer is pretty fun as well

[rose wren]

tolda ya

[tall wren]

so you might wanna give it a go

[rose wren]

mention him before, he didn't like play

[noble osprey]

But class kinda

A$$

[vast oriole]

its the most op class wdym

[tall wren]

Yeah she got dat ass too if that's what you prefer

[shut pasture]

Which class? Slayer?

[tall wren]

I dont think he means dmg

But gameplay

[noble osprey]

No comment

[shut pasture]

Ehh yeah if it isn't your thing, sure

[vast oriole]

then play whatever u like

idk

[shut pasture]

But I mean if you're gonna play DB then it isn't much different tbh lol

[tall wren]

No man, you should play what you dont like

[rose wren]

nope

[noble osprey]

How so?

Is 3 blades against a big ass blade

[tall wren]

Why is your name like this. And not the last two letters swapped

[timber mauve]

Both high dmg builds are burst spec back attackers.

[shut pasture]

What Icy said

[noble osprey]

I mean in that sense yes

[tall wren]

Except one you build up and have a DMG GO button

[noble osprey]

But gameplay not much

[tall wren]

and the other you activate a timer against the clock

[shut pasture]

Well Predator kind of just a better Surge lol

[tall wren]

Predator?

You mean Punisher

[shut pasture]

Sorry, yes, I did mean Punisher

[noble osprey]

A predator

[shut pasture]

Both Ps

[noble osprey]

This game taking wild turns

[tall wren]

What you expect from booba lady

gotta have predator

[rose wren]

started out as tistonic, so shorten it to that

[tall wren]

It still read tits

[noble osprey]

Now I wanna booba tea her melons

[tall wren]

Are you completely new btw?

Or just looking for an alt

[noble osprey]

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Im a go all the way then quit then back

[tall wren]

Kinda hard going all the way here

You might wanna come back in a year or two and get the boosts that get you straight to endgame

[uncut ivy]

arg, I'm hard locked frfom steam cheevos then

[noble osprey]

Aight u know wat

Booba it is

But

It might not be

[timber mauve]

I have 6 slayers

I love slayer

[rose wren]

miss out on events drops stuff

[woven pond]

is there anything preventing me from getting to trixion as soon as I get lvl 50? i noticed the other day i couldnt travel through something in the sea i forget why I think missing a quest

[rose wren]

talk to vern queen, the msq should be there, nothing stops u going

[quartz spoke]

what do i choose from epic engraving recipe selection chest?

and a legendary one

[shut pasture]

Engravings appropriate for your class and build for that class.

What class are you?

[quartz spoke]

summoner

[lavish grove]

The Ultimate Summoner Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Summoner class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

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Summoner Community Guide

This information was created by community members · Jun 7, 2023, 10:33 PM

[shut pasture]

Are you new to the game?

[quartz spoke]

ye

[shut pasture]

May not want to be on EUW, then

[quartz spoke]

what why

[shut pasture]

Population.

Not a lot of people

[quartz spoke]

... i read on reddit more ppl on west than central

the post wasnt that old..

[shut pasture]

Don't know what they are smoking, but that is not the case