lost-ark-help

[trim heron]

ultimately worth using then?

[echo owl]

it is technically the only dps rune so a lot of builds do run it yes

[pseudo atlas]

can't find any real info about the exact damage formula, just that it scales with attack power which...of course it does

[trim heron]

guess i might as well use it then

0 better than 0

[rose wren]

thers only 1leg bleed so use it

[radiant flame]

I mean it’s also build dependent

Don’t just run a bleed for the sake of running a bleed

[trim heron]

its on my demonic sh so its nbd

[radiant flame]

Some builds just don’t have the space for bleed

Sure

[trim heron]

i fuckin love my purify rune so i had to decide which other rune to sacrifice for it. went with the quick recharge on death claw

[radiant flame]

Purify should be content dependent anyway

[shy yarrow]

its based off your base atk power and only matters when you can have it near 100% uptime

[radiant flame]

For a bunch of stuff it does nothing

[rose wren]

there r abilities that apply bleed already

[trim heron]

not having to think about whether its equipped or not is how i like it, so the benefit of quick recharge on a 4s skill isnt worth to me

[radiant flame]

Anyway I guess the bigger picture is to learn 1. What runes are changeable in your build and 2. What particular content requires what

[radiant flame]

Shrug. If you want. But having flexibility can make or break certain content

[humble pulsar]

As a new player that just got to 1415 gear on my main, what should I do other than my dailys/weeklies? Should I focus on making 4 more alts (I have 1 other alt), or should I focus on getting roster bonuses (skill point etc) or what other things should I focus on in my free time? Thanks

[radiant flame]

Different bleed to rune. They stack

[radiant flame]

Horizontal and skill points are important

I would do that

More alts is good but don’t just make 4 for the sake of making 4

[humble pulsar]

sry what does horizontal mean

[radiant flame]

Make what you want to play

[rose wren]

oh thought they overlap on duration

[radiant flame]

Just anything that isn’t getting higher gear level - so collectibles and so on

A lot of skill points is locked behind horizontal content

[rose wren]

basically side quests and exploring the world

[shut pasture]

Roster unlocks. Skill points, Runes. Also only make additional alts if you actually want to play those classes and if you just enjoy playing them. Alts are an investment and they do not easily, or quickly, pay themselves back the higher in ilvl you bring them.

[radiant flame]

different bleeds are different instances of damage

[vast oriole]

https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/resources/lost-ark-skill-point-guide
https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/resources/road-to-20-island-tokens

focus on that

[humble pulsar]

Thanks yall! What hozrizontal should i focus on

thansk so much/!

[radiant flame]

20 island souls

giants hearts

Omnium stars

Ignea tokens (adventure tome)

[rose wren]

its important to gain all the skill points, so u have more tripod active

[radiant flame]

A bunch of Omnium stars are locked behind time gated content

So I would start to just slowly do them

Anguished isle daily dungeon

Moake or rowen field boss

Chaos line weekly dungeon

[humble pulsar]

thank you so much ^^^

i guess theres a lot more to do other than just end game raiding

[radiant flame]

But don’t burn yourself out

[humble pulsar]

seems like a long and slow grind

[rose wren]

welcome to mmorpg

[radiant flame]

It is. And it can be really soul destroying if you try to do it all in one go

So just take your time

I personally found adventure tome to be pretty chill - just do something else on a second monitor while looking at the map and the game

And yeah as paperwarrior said about alts - just make stuff you think you’ll enjoy playing

[vast oriole]

sine he"she a bard, i guess no need to rush skill points

[humble pulsar]

i have 2 supports currently, bard and paladin that i have hyper express on

[vast oriole]

yeah so double supports, you dont need to rush skillpoints all in one day

[rose wren]

should check AH for accessory because engraving support will disappear

[humble pulsar]

wdym by engraving support will dsiappear, do they get bought out?

[rose wren]

hyper express event

[humble pulsar]

ahhh yehh, i have till july to figure out my engravings

[vast oriole]

Awakening desperate heavy armor expert for bard
Awakening blessed aura expert vital point hit for pala

[humble pulsar]

so based on what i understanding, 2 engravings can be equipped, so im guessing i should get awakening and desperate using those engraving recipes, and my accessories and facetting stone gives me the other 2 engraving levels?

[radiant flame]

You can do that. But for 4x3 I recommend just double equipping your class engraving

Class engraving accessories are the most expensive

[rose wren]

stone wont have class engraving ever btw, if u didn't know

[compact venture]

Can someone please explain me how people reach +35-40% move speed bonus to utilize Raid Capitan engraving? I understand that some classes have built-in speed bonuses, but how for example Sorc can reach it without using Spirit Absorb?

[rose wren]

full swiftness accessory at tier 3

[compact venture]

Imposible. there will be only about `1500

but 2080 is needed

[rose wren]

when ya in a party with support that has yearning, its a 10% boost

[compact venture]

All supports have such skills? Is it ok to count on such buffs when making a build?

[rose wren]

yearning a relic armour boost set

[pseudo atlas]

yearning is assumed in most raid settings

as in, you're going to have a support with yearning

[elder cypress]

4set effect

[pseudo atlas]

the only time it's not available is maybe in deskaluda or on-ilvl valtan hm

[elder cypress]

8% at lv1 ，10% at lv2

[pseudo atlas]

or of course when you have no support

[compact venture]

Ok, thanks a lot for this information!

[radiant flame]

Also just read the community guide

For that class

It will explain why it can utilise raid captain

Some classes do not need max Swift

Because they have inherent ms bonuses

[humble trellis]

Anyone know if i can get the slayer powerpass on another region aswell, even if I've already used it on EUC
and am i bricking smth on my main server with it?

[rose jewel]

this has your answer

[buoyant herald]

nope you can claim 1 pp per region

[humble trellis]

Thanks!

[lavish grove]

The Ultimate Deathblade Infoset

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Deathblade Community Guide

This information was created by community members · May 23, 2023, 6:48 PM

[round iron]

i joined a guardian and someone said "c", i said "whats c?", and they left ??

[humble pulsar]

wait is the new 1340 powerpass different from the one you get from completing the bervor quest?

[buoyant herald]

ppl usually dont like playing with clueless ppl 😄

c is corrosion

[pseudo atlas]

it does the same thing but has different requirements to get

[round iron]

yeah apparently

[buoyant herald]

for guardians you always need a flare > F 2 pheros which is usually just 1 and 2 or p1 and p2 and corro or destr nade - d

at the start everyone picks one

depends on guardian matters more or less

but you always have to do a flare and 2 pheros

ice turtle is A LOT faster if you do a corro at the start

[shut loom]

guys perfect suppression or demonic impulse is better ?

[buoyant herald]

ps is a lot stronger
di is simple and very cheap to build

[shut loom]

does ps deals more damage than di ?

[buoyant herald]

yes a lot more

[rose jewel]

harder to play

[shut loom]

okay thanks

[shut loom]

what is harder ?

[buoyant herald]

and a lot more expensive

[shut loom]

i will go for ps

[rose jewel]

diamond is harder

[buoyant herald]

you need to back attack has actual rotations on di you just transform and roll your head across he keyboard

[rose jewel]

ps

[shut loom]

haha

[rose wren]

diamond ?

[shut loom]

thanks

[radiant flame]

DI and PS are entirely different classes almost

[buoyant herald]

not almost 😄

they are vastly different

[radiant flame]

You will do way more damage on DI than PS early on

[buoyant herald]

as different as a class can get

[radiant flame]

It’s only real endgame (where you have max tripods and 7+ gems) where PS starts to (easily) beat DI

You even need wealth runes on PS so you don’t even have easier gearing on it

Not trying to dissuade you from playing PS if you like it, but you do need to realise it’s nothing like DI and it will take a decent amount of investment for it to feel good

[shut loom]

i see

hmm

that's a difficult decision to make

perhaps Armen can help me ?

[lavish grove]

The Ultimate Destroyer Infoset

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Destroyer Community Guide

This information was created by community members · May 23, 2023, 7:05 PM

[true seal]

can you trade with other people in stronghold?

[buoyant herald]

from same server yes

different servers no

[radiant flame]

You can’t get around no cross server trading

[buoyant herald]

its the first thing i tried when they made shs cross sever

[true seal]

bummer

[median pewter]

is there a free knowledge transfer for south vern? I thought the system was changed some. Trying to help a mokoko friend :)

[hollow scroll]

if you finish hyper express 2

its one of the rewards

[lavish grove]

The Ultimate Slayer Infoset

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Slayer Community Guide

This information was created by community members · May 23, 2023, 8:15 PM

[brittle vessel]

anyone know what this means from the update notes:
"Punika Powerpass available alongside the Hyper Express II Event: If players still have the unused item in their inventory, after they use it from their inventory, they will now have a Powerpass token that can be usable in other servers of the same region."
Does this mean if the latest Powerpass is not used it is region wide? Or am I understanding this wrong?

[charred wadi]

help pls

i spend 5 dollar in steam. And bought some games. am i trusted steam account now?? I couldn't use market.

what should I do?

[stiff night]

if i do this raid do i get gear upgrade i don't understand the "to continue you must complete"

[compact venture]

Write support like I did. They will fix this issue for you as well I hope.

[charred wadi]

How do I write to Support? From where?

[rose jewel]

?support

[sage dune]

Reminder for our new users, we are NOT affiliated with Amazon nor Smilegate. Please stop asking mods for in game support/help.
Contact customer support: https://www.amazongames.com/en-us/support/lost-ark
Amazon Official Discord: https://discord.gg/playlostark

[rose jewel]

?trusted

[sage dune]

FAQ for Trusted Status (make take a few days to update status)
Must spend at least 5 USD on steam account AND set up 2FA with mobile steam guard.
Details: https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/71D3-35C2-AD96-AA3A

[compact venture]

From amazon site.

Or just mail straight to them.

[e-mail]

[blazing shadow]

So i accidentally deleted the Radiant zagaros crystal from basic of the stronghold quest

Anything i can do?

[compact venture]

What is it for? I've always interested in its purpose.

[blazing shadow]

Its a quest item

Can't move on with the quests

[compact venture]

I still have it in roster storage and can't figure out how to use it further

[blazing shadow]

I think it is just for the start mission

[compact venture]

Interesting

[blazing shadow]

Cant buy anymore and cant move on with the quest

[compact venture]

Buyback?

[stiff night]

if i do this raid do i get gear upgrade? i don't understand the "to continue you must complete" in the hyperexpress

[blazing shadow]

I deleted it

[compact venture]

Than write to support. They can restore destroyed items of some fixed amount per month if I remember correctly.

[blazing shadow]

Where do i write to support?

[compact venture]

[e-mail]

Can be find from amazon support page

They also have web form to fill (it forms and send letter for you)

[compact venture]

Gear upgrade can be achieved only by honing.

From guarding raids you mostly get resources for honing.

[shut pasture]

Its just telling you that at your ilvl you can do that Guardian, thats all.

You don't get anything different out of it than any other Guardian

Your next set is going to come from Legion Raids, specifically Relic set from Valtan Hard Mode and Vykas Normal/Hard Mode.

[mighty rapids]

is there any difference between, say, Velganos and night fox yoho, reward wise? why would you do velganos when he is harder and requires more ilvl?

[stiff night]

i'm stuck atm i can't hone gear because of the lack of basic oreha fusion material

[compact venture]

https://forums.playlostark.com/t/radiant-zagoras-crystal/350819

[shut pasture]

Slightly more rewards, but people just skip Velganos anyway due to the difficulty.

[compact venture]

It crafts in stronghold from trade skill materials.

[mighty rapids]

when two chaos dungeons or guardian raids show same potential rewards but one is higher Ilvl, the higher Ilvl one has better drop rates? or what

like better chance of the rune dropping?

[shut pasture]

Get some gold by doing Abyssal Dungeons and Argos Abyss Raid, finish your Una's Weekly Tokens as well since you can turn those Tokens in for gold.

[compact venture]

Always had same question. Still not sure if it works so.

[shut pasture]

Not increased drop rates, just more materials.

The higher the ilvl Chaos Dungeon the more it will drop in terms of materials

Rune "drop rates" don't change

Thats just RNG

[mighty rapids]

ok, thanks

very helpful

[shut pasture]

Also same with higher ilvl Guardians, just drops more

But the difference between Yoho and Velganos is small enough to where you can just not deal with Velganos and be fine

Too much work to do Velganos

[mighty rapids]

yeah, i noticed haha

[static sable]

is it possible to set up the engraving support for chaos dungeon and raids without having to manually swap it every time?

[shut pasture]

Not really, not that you really need to worry about Engravings all that much for Chaos Dungeons.

[charred wadi]

1 week waiting to sell Case in CS. I just deposited $5. What should I do to get Trusted status and use the market? Should I wait 1 week?

help please i need help

[shut pasture]

Like its not required to run preemptive for Chaos Dungeons, its just an added bonus if you do.

[charred wadi]

dollar is valuable in my country

[static sable]

alright thanks

[charred wadi]

1 week waiting to sell Case in CS. I just deposited $5. What should I do to get Trusted status and use the market? Should I wait 1 week?

[shut pasture]

?support

[sage dune]

Reminder for our new users, we are NOT affiliated with Amazon nor Smilegate. Please stop asking mods for in game support/help.
Contact customer support: https://www.amazongames.com/en-us/support/lost-ark
Amazon Official Discord: https://discord.gg/playlostark

[shut pasture]

I would advise simply going through Amazon support for your concerns/issues.

[mighty rapids]

set up steam guard/steam double authentication, worked for my friend @charred wadi

when he did he got punika pass in 1 or 2 days

[charred wadi]

i already did

[rose wren]

?trusted

[sage dune]

FAQ for Trusted Status (make take a few days to update status)
Must spend at least 5 USD on steam account AND set up 2FA with mobile steam guard.
Details: https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/71D3-35C2-AD96-AA3A

[charred wadi]

not enough information is not enough

[mighty rapids]

ask amazon support honestly

theey will help u better than we can

they respond fast

[coral umbra]

does sacred charm help in brel hard g4 in any way?

[maiden locust]

How do I get perms to post in guild recruitment channel?
I need new members since quite a lot of veteran members perma quit

[shut pasture]

Look in the #guild-recruitment channel. We have a process you need to follow.

[tall finch]

Hello, I am in Awakening Quest, here is showing "You don't have pray emote", but, I did the quest who is suppose to obtain it.

Someone can help me with it?

[shut pasture]

The quest which gave you the emote would have given you a book item in your inventory that you have to use to get the emote.

[wise juniper]

The best and only way to "farm" LOS cards is just doing extra abyssal dungeons and argos right?

I have done enough argos to get a feel for the drop rate. But what about regular abyssal dungeons? Are they better/worse/same for LOS cards?

[faint pagoda]

The good part about the abyssals is the cards that can drop

[buoyant herald]

there are exact drop rates soemwhere in #info-dump

[faint pagoda]

I think it's like 2/8 that are for los

[wise juniper]

👍

[neat lantern]

Can we now use powerpass in all servers in the region we play?

[shut pasture]

No. That isn't what that is saying.

[vagrant pumice]

any tips on getting passed 1460ilvl I cant seem to get into the raid after trying for a week now

[shut pasture]

I would suggest using one of the learning Discords out there, preferably one relevant to your region.

One of the more recent ones would be Lost Ark LFG.

[thorn cipher]

Oh wow there's actual learning communities?

[shut pasture]

Yes.

Previously there were only region specific Discords for it, but several streamers collaborated and created another one for that express purpose. It also directs to the previous region specific Discords.

[vagrant pumice]

I might be blind but I cannot find that discord

[compact venture]

Does Disrespect engraving work on bosses? If 29 HP bars from 100 left for example.

[buoyant herald]

yeah it does work

its not a very good engraving tho 😄

[compact venture]

As 5th may be not so bad

[buoyant herald]

tbf

its trash

[shut pasture]

There are better 5ths

[rose wren]

no idea how u test disrespect

[buoyant herald]

its only an option if you are building some cheap throwaway alt

[compact venture]

I just dont want to take Raid Caitan

[buoyant herald]

rc is really good tho

[shut pasture]

On what? Glaiv?

Why?

[compact venture]

Sorc

with swift

[buoyant herald]

rc is one of the best engravings

[rose wren]

raid can outdmg grudge

[shut pasture]

Uhh why don't you want to?

[compact venture]

idk how people test RC, but I see it's a very bad engr

[shut pasture]

You'd be wrong

[compact venture]

It's good only on paper

[vast oriole]

test in trixion

[shut pasture]

Remember you have supports in your groups with Yearning buff always active

[compact venture]

That's why everyone hypes it

[shut pasture]

No it isn't. Its good in practice as well

[buoyant herald]

at 140% ms its 18% mulitplicative damage
its the best engraving after grudge

[compact venture]

But I will never get +40%

[buoyant herald]

you always do

[vast oriole]

why not?

[compact venture]

Even 30% is a problem most of the time

[vast oriole]

full swift with yearning support and u get it

[buoyant herald]

support gives you extra 10%

[shut pasture]

Again...yearning buff from Supports

[vast oriole]

or are u not full swift?

[rose wren]

we've mention yearning

[compact venture]

Full

[shut pasture]

Then you have no issue using it

[vast oriole]

good or shit quality of accs?

[buoyant herald]

you should have at least +30 then

[shut pasture]

With Yearning easily break that threshold

[compact venture]

Supports and gear set cannot gain MS even for 50% of time in battle

[vast oriole]

?

[buoyant herald]

support gives it 100% of the time

[shut pasture]

Yeah, no, that is wildly incorrect

[vast oriole]

with what kind of support u play

[rose wren]

there's also support with abilities that boost atk spd, not sure that counts towards the total

[shut pasture]

Yearning is constantly up

[vast oriole]

support just need to touch the boss once every ~20sec

[buoyant herald]

and your swift should give you like 30-35% if you are ful lswift

[compact venture]

I raid for 3 months and it's nearly ~30% of time I have speed bonus

[shut pasture]

Then you're not stepping into the buff

Thats a you issue

[compact venture]

Stepping?

[vast oriole]

are u running to narnia all the time or you play close to the support?

[buoyant herald]

you know how yearning works ?

[vast oriole]

u need to approach support to get yearning buff

[compact venture]

Ok than it proves I should not take RC =]

[shut pasture]

Its a radius around the support, so long as you are close enough to the support you should be getting it constantly

[vast oriole]

its big yellow aoe around him

[shut pasture]

No, it proves you should and that you should just pay attention to where your Support is

[compact venture]

I have other's visual effects off

So I cant see them

[vast oriole]

...

show effect of buffs

in your settings

[shut pasture]

You need to turn it on then. Keep show ally player buffs

[compact venture]

Impossible to play with such mess on screen

[compact venture]

Never will do

[vast oriole]

not the animation of everyone

just buff

[compact venture]

I'd better drop the game

[shut pasture]

Man you are literally just making everything harder on yourself

[buoyant herald]

@compact venture this circle is +10% ms

[compact venture]

this?

[shut pasture]

Yes, that.

[buoyant herald]

yes

[rose wren]

u need to see party buff or u're losing big dmg/etc

[shut pasture]

It will only show support classes buff visuals

[compact venture]

Ok, it's fine if only buffs will be displayed

[shut pasture]

aka the yearning radius

[rose wren]

u still see boss animations

[vast oriole]

and please, stay near the support or boss

[shut pasture]

^

[vast oriole]

or your bard/artist will curse at you

[compact venture]

As carry I must stay near boss not support =]

[buoyant herald]

well supp should stay near boss

[vast oriole]

not carry if you dont stay near support to get buff

[buoyant herald]

so all works out

[compact venture]

If melee

[vast oriole]

but yeah usually supports are in melee

[buoyant herald]

both melee and ranged should stay close

[compact venture]

Thanks, useful

[shut pasture]

Also just to be clear, Disrespect would not have been a good replacement for Raid Captain if you're still adamant on that. You'd be taking an engraving that would only be active for a very small period of time during a Legion Raid

Which would render it absolutely useless for 70% of the bosses health

[rose wren]

r u using swift pet too?

[compact venture]

last 30% is hardest part and lasts longer than first

[compact venture]

will use, now just planning the build

[buoyant herald]

no

[vast oriole]

i mean instead of disrespect, can always go ep

its less troll

[shut pasture]

Nope.

[compact venture]

From my experience yes it is

If not overgeared ofc

[shut pasture]

Still wrong

[vast oriole]

what ilvl are you

[compact venture]

Not big, 1490 main

[vast oriole]

ye thats why

[compact venture]

Why what?

[vast oriole]

u say that

[compact venture]

And why?

[vast oriole]

30 last % are not the hardest

[compact venture]

A lot of tries failed because of berserker mode on.

[rose wren]

if u cant make it to 30% then rip

[compact venture]

with about x5 or x10 hp bars left

[vast oriole]

30 last% of brel g6 hm is the easiest part

[compact venture]

I will never farm Brel with this char

[vast oriole]

why not

[shut pasture]

Thats your group not having proper uptime on the boss and not knowing patterns/mechanics that well.

[vast oriole]

^

[compact venture]

Not sure I will syill play Lost Ark after 1-2 years XD

[buoyant herald]

getting to g6 is gonna take you like a few months tops

[vast oriole]

i mean, g6 nm is not that far from your ilvl

[orchid willow]

do players dictate the gold got from selling royal crystals based on how much they buying purple crystals for?

[buoyant herald]

thats if yo uare going slow

[shut pasture]

Also you don't even technically need to do g5-6...

[compact venture]

I can adjust my build instead of blame and search for better party every time

[vast oriole]

but the pets

[elder sierra]

can i get 5x3 with only 1 legendry book ?

[buoyant herald]

just transfering to brel relic is gonna be 1510 ilvl

yes

[shut pasture]

Adjust your build to be...worse, though.

[buoyant herald]

yes gold exchange is based on game economy

[compact venture]

It's your opinion. Maths and my experience say otherwise.

[shut pasture]

And your experience is highly anecdotal and the math is incorrect.

[compact venture]

People often overestimating meta

[shut pasture]

You're going in the complete opposite direction, though.

[compact venture]

Don't be toxic

[elder sierra]

so i got to make my stone 5/9 or 7/7 or etc in that list to get 5x3 ?

[orchid willow]

went from 1800 to 1400 lol

too many cash shoppers

[vast oriole]

yes

[elder sierra]

i see thank you

[buoyant herald]

what maths is that
36% damage for 30% of the fight vs 18% damage for the whole fight

[rose wren]

no, theres still so many illegal gold going round

[shut pasture]

I'm actively not. I'm trying to explain to you that what you think is accurate is in fact not.

[compact venture]

18% from what? RC?

[buoyant herald]

yes

[vast oriole]

i mean thats why i said to test yourself your dmg rc vs direspect in trixion, idk

dont forget to add lvl 2 sa to simulate yearning

[silk shard]

Disrespect is never taken

[shut pasture]

Disrespect is difficult to test in Trixion since you can't set the boss to 30% health

[compact venture]

I didn't say it's accurate, I just not throwing other opportunities.

[orchid willow]

that dont affect royal crystal sells, if ppl not cash shopping more and more ppl gona want to buy purple crystals thus increasing the gold amount

[vast oriole]

ah i see

i didnt know the effect of disrespect tbh XD

[compact venture]

Some 1600 gear players say opposite. Same for Ether predator

[vast oriole]

1600 doesnt mean anything

[compact venture]

May be. May be not.

[buoyant herald]

they take it as 6th engraving not 5th

[silk shard]

Gear lvl means fuck all

[shut pasture]

Its not a good opportunity, though, and you're trying to compensate for circumstances that have easier solutions outside of trying to use a strange build that is ultimately going to waste your gold and your time overall.

[shut pasture]

Those are 5x3+1 not 5x3 builds

[astral root]

Also I dunno what better parties you're thinking of that will take disrespect 5x3

I get gatekept by playing reaper lmao

[compact venture]

Nope I'm talking about 5x3

How about Mass Increase?

[vast oriole]

can be taken

[buoyant herald]

it does affect the price of rc
less ppl buying bc = less demand so price goes down
more ppl buying bc = more demand price goes up

bc and rc are tied

[shut pasture]

Mass Increase would be taken, yes, mostly by anything easily able to just completely ignore the Attack Speed reduction like Slayer

[vast oriole]

whats the build you think about

[buoyant herald]

mass is good but you gonna be losing speed
rc is still better

[silk shard]

Also if less people buy royal crystal

Prices go sky high

[rose wren]

mass increase u already dont have the negative effect since swift

[silk shard]

South America server is a good example for this

[compact venture]

Attack speed is not a case for swift instant cast Sorc, right?

[buoyant herald]

you still gonna notice the speed drop

[shut pasture]

Its far less of a concern for any full swift builds

Still might feel it a bit on Sorc, though

[orchid willow]

i suppose so ya its 75 dollar to get 5750 rc, which translates to 33k gold. its pointless spending money on game if gotten easily in game if high lvl

[silk shard]

Lost Ark is pretty much a pay to lose game

[buoyant herald]

rc is still a lot better
rc is multipilicative damage vs mass is additive
no reason to go mass when you can go rc

[astral root]

Also I feel like crit Flux would be cheaper

[shut pasture]

Oh I know, in that particular situation yes

[compact venture]

Can you explain more about additive vs mult.?

[shut pasture]

Thats why Slayer uses both with Mass Increase as 5th

[buoyant herald]

and better 😄 but swift is more fun

[orchid willow]

if lost ark loses money, they going to nerf the gold drops lol or make the raids non-carryable

[astral root]

Shame. Swiftflux buff when smh

[orchid willow]

busses affecting it to

[buoyant herald]

one adds flat amount of damage other multiplies your damage pretty self explanatory
+3 is less than x3

[compact venture]

Will it be good if I also take both Mass Increase and RC and will build Hit Master as 5th?

[buoyant herald]

sure

as a swift you gonna want adrenaline tho

[compact venture]

Why?

[buoyant herald]

you gonna miss crit

[compact venture]

I will miss it anyway

+15% is not a big deal

[orchid willow]

it is

[compact venture]

Not gonna take casting abilities

[orchid willow]

any increase is good

[shut pasture]

Wouldn't you build Hit Master before RC, though? Hit Master as one of your main first 4

[rose wren]

paid carry shouldn't exist

adrealine also give atk power

[silk shard]

Its a mmo thing

[compact venture]

But from conversation it is worse than RC and Mass Increse

so should comes later

[shut pasture]

Well this is Full Swift Igniter, correct?

[buoyant herald]

hm is better than mass rc is better than both

[compact venture]

Swift Reflux Instant cast

[lone sigil]

there is no way to ban paid carries in a game unless you make it literally impossible to trade in game

[compact venture]

Why it's better than Mass?

[lone sigil]

and then it just moves to real money instead

[buoyant herald]

its multiplicative damage

[orchid willow]

use cursed doll instead of mass

[rose wren]

u cant doll, if u take so much dmg and chug pots

[compact venture]

I'm afraid will not be able to survive

[lone sigil]

get good

is the only answer

[unreal ravine]

is reset in like 12 hours ish or tomorrow? i cante ver remember

[astral root]

12 hours

[unreal ravine]

gotcha thanks

[lone sigil]

if cursed doll is a liability for you then you need to get better at your class and encounter

[orchid willow]

would mass be good for slayer?

[lone sigil]

it's a cheap out engraving for slayer

it can work, but it's not the best

[orchid willow]

curse or mass?

[lone sigil]

mass

[shut pasture]

Its actually especially good on Predator Slayer, Serenade

[lone sigil]

predator? what build is that?

[orchid willow]

what about punisher?

[shut pasture]

Swift

[compact venture]

There is no perfect players, mistakes will always be, especially on my ilvl content.

[faint pagoda]

Swiftness

[lone sigil]

there is no build named predator in my dictionary

[orchid willow]

im 500+ in swiftness

[lone sigil]

i only see punisher

[faint pagoda]

Nono I am perfect everyone else is making errors

[compact venture]

That's why I can't take Doll =]

[orchid willow]

nvm it would make 500+ swiftness worthless lol

[shy chasm]

mass inc on punisher might make gayge building

[vast oriole]

then dont take grudge

[compact venture]

And take doll instead?)

[buoyant herald]

also @compact venture from community guide 😄

[vast oriole]

no but your reasoning means that

[shut pasture]

Predator is still pretty good, and you can run both RC and MI on Predator Slayer because the berserk mode and full swift + yearning means the attack speed reduction is literally a null value

[faint pagoda]

Just run heavy armor instead of grudge

[shut pasture]

Since you overcap attack speed

[compact venture]

Nope I'm good with Grudge but not good for Grudge + Doll

[vast oriole]

dont play good on my ilvl content so i cant take cd
but you can take grudge

[vast oriole]

💯

[compact venture]

Can dodge 80% but cant dodge 100%

[lone sigil]

get good at the game

supports are so strong that grudge + doll is meaningless if you are adequately skilled

[vast oriole]

and thats why u have a support

that can protect u

[lone sigil]

if you still struggle with grudge + doll with a support

[shy chasm]

learn patterns and youll eventually over gear most content so you wont even need to dodge most attacks

[lone sigil]

you need to get good

no way around it

[compact venture]

I'm okay with my skill and making build for it.

I don't need to be you

[shut pasture]

@compact venture Thats why having support buff effects visible is going to probably change a lot for you. You can find the healing ring from Bards and actually get healed by it

[compact venture]

Healing balls were always visible

[shut pasture]

And also more effectively keep Yearning active on yourself

[faint pagoda]

I just fucking hate cursed doll when I do prokel

[compact venture]

But yem it will change a lot

[vast oriole]

stupid question, when you dont have the effects of buffs, can you see artist healing orb? xd

[faint pagoda]

Yup

[compact venture]

Yes

[vast oriole]

ok, got the answer

bard isnt healing ball

its a big circle that will heal

[compact venture]

It's interactible object, not visual effect

[faint pagoda]

[buoyant herald]

just dodge

[lone sigil]

think of using grudge + doll as making you respect raid mechanics more

instead of solely a maximum dps ceiling

[vast oriole]

~~and using heavy armor makes you not respect raid mechs ~~

[compact venture]

I'm ok with 3 characters with Grudge + Doll, want other gameplay

[shut pasture]

And maximizing your DPS ceiling only goes so far anyway. You won't do damage if your uptime and knowledge of patterns and mechanics isn't there anyway

[lone sigil]

gameplay comes more from class skills than general engravings

[compact venture]

Gameplay comes from wipes

[shut pasture]

Well if you're wanting to learn the raids better find some learning parties and just prog with em as much as possible

[vast oriole]

not necessarily comes from wipes

[faint pagoda]

Glaivier my hitbox is bigger than valtan and I'm slower than kunga

[compact venture]

WE playing Lost Ark - Wipes and Busses... and yeah, bosses!

[lone sigil]

wiping only teaches you if it's a learnable experience for yourself

[vast oriole]

^

[lone sigil]

the same moron dying to the same mechanic 4 times in a row teaches nobody

[vast oriole]

sometimes you wipe because others, wont teach you anything except people can be stupid

and i dont need wipes to know that

[compact venture]

It teaches us how kick works =]

[hollow scroll]

its always because of someone else. even when its not you still blame them

[compact venture]

Completely messed up with all of this information about engravings. Want to get 4x3+1 and cannot decide which engr. should be this 1.

And it will become 5x3 after some time

[shy chasm]

no point of +1 imo

[shut pasture]

I mean if you going 4x3+1 just get 5x3

[shy chasm]

just 4x3 and then eventuallt get 5

[compact venture]

Don't have enough book bonuses

[shut pasture]

Just sit on 4x3 until you get the 5x3

Just save for the books

[compact venture]

It would be cheaper when I will switch build to 5x3

[snow surge]

where can we go to report royal crystals showing as 0?

[shut pasture]

Not really. If you just sit on 4x3 and save to fully flesh out the 5x3 you'll be fine

[compact venture]

Buying red 5/3 access. is more gold effiсient than 3/3 orange.

[silk shard]

Amazon support

[compact venture]

And than replace them

Will lost a lot for pheones

[hollow scroll]

soo f for swiftflux?

im not rolling igniter yet ill stick to it

[faint pagoda]

Swiftniter

[buoyant herald]

it was always bad 😄
||been denying swift flux sorcs for months just for that ||

[compact venture]

Sadge

[hollow scroll]

its not that bad

[lone sigil]

swiftfl x

[compact venture]

But maybe will be easier to build crit

[lone sigil]

reflux is already discriminated against

what makes you think shittier reflux fares better

[buoyant herald]

yeah it is

[hollow scroll]

[buoyant herald]

for one the guide 😄

[silk shard]

Reflux itself is just in a bad spot

[compact venture]

I just want 1 char to have swift

Not sure Reaper can

[hollow scroll]

arcana

[buoyant herald]

there are way better swift classes out there

[radiant flame]

Go control

[void lance]

anyone know how can i see the Maykoko emote event contest

[compact venture]

Too late, already got another build

[hollow scroll]

[compact venture]

Now only Sorc and Reaper left

[hollow scroll]

classless swift sorc go off meta

[buoyant herald]

swift reaper is really good (for a reaper)

[amber totem]

Predator is a swift class

🙂

[buoyant herald]

all swift classes are inferior to spec its just how the game is

but yeah pred is good

[silk shard]

Euh well emperor and predator atm

Are kinda exception to that rule

[echo owl]

technically theyre still inferior

[compact venture]

If difference is not so big it's ok to me to be less efficient

[shut pasture]

Predator still pretty bursty despite it being a swift build

[echo owl]

just not to some big degree

[buoyant herald]

well yeah 2 busted classes

[amber totem]

predator is vastly inferior to punisher for dmg

but utility, uptime pred better

[radiant flame]

Not really

[silk shard]

Emperor arcana beats out majority of spec classes

[shut pasture]

But at the same time Punisher is also just wildly broken

[echo owl]

ok ya in that case

if you meant vs empress its just very slightly weaker

[compact venture]

What about TTH gunslinger with Swift?

[silk shard]

Emp > emp

[radiant flame]

Hero

[buoyant herald]

i mean just play for fun dont chase meta
but the difference is very noticable

[radiant flame]

I absolutely love Swift tth

[silk shard]

Probably will get a few tweaks soon

[radiant flame]

but

You have to play dominion

[silk shard]

Just OP for now so more people whale it

Imo

[shut pasture]

Well yeah, its getting a slight nerf in the upcoming balance patch

[radiant flame]

And you’ll wreck your keyboard

[compact venture]

Why?

[buoyant herald]

its getting its hands cut off pretty much

[shy chasm]

why not hallu

[shut pasture]

Punisher is getting its scaling dialed down, Bloodlust attach is getting a damage nerf and Ragna Break (Awakening skill) is getting a damage nerf

[shy chasm]

or

[radiant flame]

Because that’s how Swift tth works

[shut pasture]

Hush, no it is not.

[shy chasm]

is the difference that noticable

[compact venture]

I couldn't get it from guide, how it works and why no other options?

[radiant flame]

You could? You’re just gimping damage

[silk shard]

The punisher nerf

Is like half a finger lost max

[radiant flame]

Dominion is the best ceiling for Swift tth

[shut pasture]

It isn't copium, the nerf just isn't that significant. It will affect entry level players into the class more than it will affect those higher ilvl and more experienced

[shy chasm]

damn dom feels ass to use

[radiant flame]

Yes. That’s why I said it’s the biggest downside about Swift tth

[shut pasture]

It nerfed the damage of the big dick dump skills which are larger portions of newer players damage, people with higher uptime with all of their skills are not going to feel those affects as significantly

[compact venture]

Isn't it leading to low crit and small Keen Blunt impact?

[radiant flame]

Your class engraving gives you 45 crit

[deep warren]

if i could get 5x3 on slayer but 2 of my accessories had shitty stats or low quality. is that worth over 4x3 with 100 quality

[compact venture]

45% is very low for Keen, no?

[radiant flame]

You also get crit synergy

[silk shard]

Stats > engravings

[radiant flame]

And base crit

[compact venture]

From party?

[buoyant herald]

rings quality doesnt matter
if you keep over 90 on neck and over 80 on earrings you good

[radiant flame]

You’re completely fine with kbw on tth with no crit

[radiant flame]

From yourself

[compact venture]

Ok, than I will need to convert my set once I complete it.

[deep warren]

thanks

[cloud egret]

Tyvm for telling me about this, i got my earring back T.T

[compact venture]

I have opened my stats during the fight and saw about 50-55% crit chance without Hallucination set

[radiant flame]

Yes. And then add your own crit synergy

You’re fine

[compact venture]

Nope AFTER adding

[radiant flame]

Your crit debuff isn’t added to your stats

[compact venture]

And how it works?

[radiant flame]

It lowers crit resistance of mob

[compact venture]

This?

[radiant flame]

^

Read it

[compact venture]

Wait Crit resistance is more damage, not crit chance

[radiant flame]

You dont gain crit

No it’s crit chance

[compact venture]

Prove

[radiant flame]

🙈

[echo owl]

????

[compact venture]

It's nonsense

[radiant flame]

Are you joking

[echo owl]

literally anyone can tell you that synergy is crit rate

[radiant flame]

Go to trixion if you want to prove it to yourself

[compact venture]

Resistance and Chance are different mechs

[radiant flame]

Otherwise yeah, I guess you are the first person in 6 years of the game to realise it’s been wrong all along

[compact venture]

And what should I do to check it?

[shut pasture]

Crit Resistance means their Resistance to getting critically, which means if you're reducing their crit resistance you're increase your crit chance

[compact venture]

Resist never mean chance in games to me till this moment

[echo owl]

you know what

[shut pasture]

Also @compact venture Hover over Crit Resistance in your Details panel in your character window (P)

It explains it

[echo owl]

youre free to argue what your thoughts are on what crit resistance means

both the guide and maxroll explicitly translate it to 10% crit rate

[compact venture]

No way...

[radiant flame]

Use synergy skill on mob. Hit mob with bullet rain. Check crit%

[shut pasture]

Yes way.

[radiant flame]

Do not use crit synergy skill

[compact venture]

What a stupid name of crit chance

[radiant flame]

Use bullet rain

Check crit %

[shut pasture]

It actually makes sense...its your resistance to being critically hit, which would translate into crit chance

[compact venture]

Why they even separated crit chance to 2 crit chances?

[vagrant veldt]

Crit chance applies offensively, crot resist applies defensively

[shut pasture]

Because one is a debuff one is not

[radiant flame]

that’s because it’s not the same as crit chance it’s crit resistance down which translates to increase crit chance when you hit the mob but you don’t see it in your stats

[compact venture]

But wait, if boss already have 0% resist will it be less than 0?

[vagrant veldt]

They could name them the same but that also could be confusing in its own way

[echo owl]

stop overcomplicating it

[shut pasture]

Yes, which means its giving you a 10% increase to your crit chance. Just think of it as a 10% increase to your crit chance, thats it

[compact venture]

Okay, I got it. Anyone will have +10% to crit chance, even those who has 0% own

[compact venture]

But this is still troubles me

I've always thought that crit resist. is the opposite to Crit Damage. Like -10% will give you bonus 10% damage from crits.

[radiant flame]

The reason why this exists is as people have said - this is a debuff - if there are multiple enemies you only get increased chance on the enemy with the debuff

[compact venture]

Yes, got it, thanks.

Btw, how many times can I convert my set into another?

[shy chasm]

infinitely

[radiant flame]

Infinite

[gilded wyvern]

is there somewhere a website with up to date info of raw gold earnings throughout every raid/dungeon, gold cost for gate chests and their exact number of rewards etc?

[timber mauve]

Imagine if it consumed mats

[rose wren]

u have to to pay - EA

[warm anvil]

whats the command to leave raid group again?

[timber mauve]

If it’s not pinned in here or in #info-dump idk

[rose wren]

song of escape?

[warm anvil]

nothing like a /leaveparty thing?

[rose wren]

oh... no idea

[timber mauve]

Keep in mind, if you just yeet yourself out of a raid or whatever, it’ll consume your weekly entry.

[warm anvil]

specifically im talking about faction stuff cus whenever i join a party for hermut its a raid group

[timber mauve]

Ctrl rmb your name and leave party

[exotic cloak]

does this have any real value?

[wraith basin]

reported

[lone sigil]

only spec bards would want it

[exotic cloak]

So how much should i list it for? :d

[lone sigil]

check on AH

probably a few thousand

would be a lot more if it were swiftness

[exotic cloak]

Okay, thanks!

[compact venture]

https://lostark.fandom.com/wiki/Legion_Raid

And also:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15ZQu3nCSRTmdFJsDBv9Q00E0bYhx0UvGdAh3xtN-FVU

[rose wren]

yuck fandom wiki

[rose wren]

not true, artist can work but not many will do

[vast oriole]

Spec artist

[rose wren]

how many people realise there's another basic attack animation on some classes?

[lone sigil]

spec artist is an abomination

[gilded wyvern]

Thanks buddy but i found already a doc in the pins here

[lone sigil]

spec artist = you deserve to be gatekept

[rose wren]

whats wrong with it

[lone sigil]

bad spec scaling

in the same vein that spec paladin doesnt exist either

[vast oriole]

I cant imagine hopper speed with full spec

Have time to fall asleep during animation

[rose wren]

i played artist through story express, its pretty slow

[lone sigil]

even for bard, spec isnt necessarily that great outside of playing with a static

randoms would probably appreciate swiftness a lot more

artist with no swiftness

[rose wren]

how about expertise, suppose to increase duration on buffs...

[lone sigil]

expertise is a dogshit stat

[uneven robin]

On bard a spec ring is fine but I use it for cheap class accessory

[rose wren]

endur increase healing...

[lone sigil]

it's literally useless in pve outside of meme gunlancer/destroyer builds (that are sometimes serious in hell mode)

increases healing for yourself

wow how useful

[uneven robin]

It only applies on urself iirc

[rose wren]

oh

[uneven robin]

Expertise gl or destroyer is kinda useful in some mech

[lone sigil]

It’s never necessary

No content in the game is designed around it

Which is why normal people just run a normal build

[uneven robin]

G4 stagger went down so fast

[lone sigil]

A mech that is impossible to fail unless half your raid is dead or everyone collectively forgot whirlwinds existed

[amber totem]

stagger bot is still fun

its a shame you cant make an off meta build like that

[uneven robin]

Ye it’s just a qol

[lone sigil]

off meta doesn’t exist because the game doesn’t have situations where off meta is legitimately equal or better

[uneven robin]

I’m still having nightmares failing g4 stagger with 8 ppl and inana last week

[amber totem]

ive had a few g4 parties fail due to stagger

[lone sigil]

If everyone is alive and stagger fails

[amber totem]

but not enough to bring an expertise gl

[lone sigil]

More than one person has a learning disability

[amber totem]

or destro

or soulfist

[lone sigil]

8 people alive failing stagger is actually astounding

Even 6-7

[uneven robin]

Sorcs man

[lone sigil]

They don’t even have the worst stagger iirc

[uneven robin]

Probably holding skills for ignite

[lone sigil]

Fucking morons then

[vast oriole]

"I dont use my skills, i save for ignite"

Exactly

Average sorc

[lone sigil]

Save for ignite

Still don’t make it on to mvp screen

[umbral bramble]

I have chosen gear on my paladin where do I go from here?

its +9

[lone sigil]

Go do valtan and vykas once you hit 1445/1460

Then craft swamp of yearning set and gear transfer to that

[umbral bramble]

so just keep honing till i get to 1445

[lone sigil]

Yes

[umbral bramble]

so best way to do that is just chaos dungoens or ?

island quests

[vast oriole]

Chaos, guardian raids

[naive hollow]

hi discord, is this an appropriate channel to ask for help on performance issues?

[vast oriole]

Are u using the hyper express?

[warm anvil]

is the rowen faction event a pvp thing?

[vast oriole]

Yes

[warm anvil]

nevermind that then

[vast oriole]

Pc performance?

[naive hollow]

Yes; or is there a separate channel for that

[vast oriole]

No separate channel

[naive hollow]

ah could you direct me to it

[vast oriole]

I mean, theres none

U can ask here

[naive hollow]

ohhh

ok; been playing for about a year no major issues

today all of a sudden my game would freeze on hanumatan and become unresponsive

reloaded did a chaos dungeon seemed fine

been trying to find the random fixes i've found online google searching and reading some old forum articles but none have worked so far

[vast oriole]

Its only in hanumatan or appears randomly?

[naive hollow]

so far hanu

im assuming similar results with other forms of group play

[amber totem]

is it a couple of seconds freeze

[naive hollow]

no its full freeze like actually print screened into unresponsive

haven't had full freezes before

[amber totem]

did it come back or CTD

[naive hollow]

nope had to close the game from steam

[amber totem]

Could be any number of things then. There is an ongoing stuttering/freezing issue they believe they found a fix for , doesnt look like its mentioned in this patch

[naive hollow]

any article you can link?

[thorn cipher]

What happens if i delete my char with the story express?

[rose wren]

rip story

[thorn cipher]

ty

wish I didn't use it on reaper.. that class is a slog

[old peak]

Any recommendations on how to farm up rapport items? I just usually got them over time. but now that I need them I can't keep them.

[thorn cipher]

I know wandering merchant sells some

[rose wren]

might be more fun when u have proper build

[rose wren]

lostmerchants.com community input to see where they r at times

[vast oriole]

https://lostmerchants.com/

[old peak]

Sigh.. time to stalk merchant channels then.

[thorn cipher]

Are the ones on icy veins the recommended ones?

[hasty gate]

hello is there LFG discord for lost ark NAE? looking for raid groups play with

[sly drum]

Is there a way to know if a weapon skin is dyeable?

[shy chasm]

it will say at the bottom when you hover over it

also wont show up if you do try to dye

[lavish grove]

The Ultimate Reaper Infoset

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Reaper Community Guide

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Reaper Lunar Voice Specializations

This information was created by community members · May 23, 2023, 11:57 PM

[old peak]

I got 3 mins to go to each NPC but they respawn in 32 mins

FMl

[rose wren]

many more to come dont worry

[patent glade]

my friend used punika pass but didnt skip to punika can he still skip or he stuck where he is

[rose wren]

where it left him?

[patent glade]

he still level 38

[muted crest]

where in rowen does the wolf mask skin come from?

[timber mauve]

Did they not click skip on everything?

Are they at the Great Wall or whatever?

[hushed hinge]

hi, i startet few min ago but didnt get my 2 punika power pass?

[patent glade]

did not click skip on everything

[timber mauve]

Then they gotta “relive” parts of the story

[patent glade]

so they basically wasted punika pass

[timber mauve]

No

It’ll just have you do specific missions.

Then it’ll kick you back to trixion where you can keep doing certain stories or skip everything else.

[hushed hinge]

does it take long?

[vast oriole]

i think you can still skip it when youre in that mission

should have a skip button on top left

[timber mauve]

Yes

Not like hours and hours, but it’ll take a bit.

[hushed hinge]

but a friend got it at the beginning

[vast oriole]

your steam account is trusted?

?trusted

[sage dune]

FAQ for Trusted Status (make take a few days to update status)
Must spend at least 5 USD on steam account AND set up 2FA with mobile steam guard.
Details: https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/71D3-35C2-AD96-AA3A

[hushed hinge]

is that the problem?

[vast oriole]

yes

[hushed hinge]

ohh okay thank you

[frank beacon]

no.

[vast oriole]

you get it if your lost ark* account is old or if you are trusted

[rose wren]

old account is when u started lost ark or so

not steam old

[hushed hinge]

so if i still do it now it works after

[vast oriole]

yes

but it can take a while to get trusted

[old peak]

The chaos line ominum should just be a drop from the last boss, right?

In hard mode^

[vast oriole]

yes

[pastel goblet]

Hi all, does anyone know how I can get to the stronghold after boosting a character for the first time on an account?

[old peak]

Should be in your sheet music yeah?

F2 > Song of hearth and home.

[pastel goblet]

Oh I just needed to do a quest first, clerks invitation I’m good now

[void delta]

i need to swipe 10k euros to be able to find a clown party its insane when the raid can be done with 1 engraving faster than 4 players with plc and gold 4 rank in league

was fun game until u need 5x3 to get into easy ass content

[orchid willow]

if i use mass on slayer over cursed doll, would it be an ideal choice?

mass -10% as and cursed -25% less heal

mass is 2% higher attck power over cursed doll

so +20% would be 10% with mass

without procyon active id get more damage done to me

[frank beacon]

5x3 is stupidly cheap tho

its a minimal requirement

[frank beacon]

it wouldnt

[lone sigil]

When the average person’s alt is 5x3 and they are applying to raids

You either meet the average standard or get rejected

[orchid willow]

so cursed will be a better choice?

[frank beacon]

you punisher?

[orchid willow]

yea

[frank beacon]

for 5x3 you wanna run
punish
cd/adren
raid cap
grudge
ambush

[lone sigil]

It’s not a question of whether you meet the minimum requirement to clear a raid, it’s a question of “why should I get picked over other people applying”

[frank beacon]

for 4x3 you want ambush, punish, raid cap & grudge

[orchid willow]

im gona take cursed doll over adren

[frank beacon]

its worse crit chance & u will probs need crit syn but

if u have crit syn its higher average dmg

[orchid willow]

30% in burst mode / 17% entropy

base 1%

[frank beacon]

still a bit low

[orchid willow]

atm im using lost wind cliff for 7% crit

[frank beacon]

yeah. i mean its always gonna be less then adren 3

[orchid willow]

i dont have mats to get los 18

[frank beacon]

but if u have crit syn it doesnt matter

in party

[void delta]

but i need that to able to join clown lobbies XD i have 3k gold cuz I am literally unable to complete raids, ill just life skill for 20 years so i can finally join clown ig

[frank beacon]

i mean. youre over dramatizing what 5x3 is

i legit just got my alt 5x3 for like 15k

[void delta]

this game should track some relevant shit for raids like uptime and dps instead of just looking at gem and cards its ass, people just take the +100ilvl who can only do m1

[frank beacon]

i mean. gem, cards & ilvl are going to be more dos

dps

[void delta]

but then they have 15% uptime and 700k dps cuz theyre handless irl idk

[lone sigil]

Sanctioned dps logs is only going to make it worse lol

[frank beacon]

why would someone take a 4x3 over a 5x3

if 5x3 is going to be more dmg

[void delta]

i dont see why this game shouldnt have dps metrics lol

makes it so much easier to track your own and partys performance, if ur ass at 1560 ilvl you deserve to get blacklisted, cuz youre bad at the game

[frank beacon]

bc its not necessary

there is also logic to see what is going to do more

why take a lesser person into a raid. just to check their fps

dps*

[lone sigil]

Because this game isn’t like FF14 where the basic accessible content is easily clearable even with brain damaged players

[frank beacon]

what sense does that make

[void delta]

yeah ofc i understand the mentality, 10 gems are better than 5 gems ofc

[lone sigil]

When even “easy” raids have multiple raid wipes

[frank beacon]

i mean yea im js like

if some1 is bad. they get kicked

[void delta]

but the game design is dumb asf cuz there are no metrics or data available for players other than actual gear

[lone sigil]

People will use any metric they have to filter others

[void delta]

skill is literally irrelevant in this game

[lone sigil]

And giving them dps logs will make them filter even harder

[frank beacon]

ok so doesnt this further back the point that gear is better

if this is your outlook

youre making no sense

[lone sigil]

The only content where logs might matter is hell mode and barely anyone does those anyways

[void delta]

skill is relevant for raiding, skill isnt relevant for getting into the raid lol

[frank beacon]

idk if skill is relevant

if youre geared and know mechs irs not rocket science

everyone knows the mechs. if they dont

they get kicked

and in that way. better gear is better

[lone sigil]

The developers don’t want to bother trying to police the shitstorm that sanctioned dps logs will cause

[frank beacon]

dps logs are terrible

[lone sigil]

dps logs are good in theory but fail in practice for this game

[frank beacon]

in a juicer party nobody cares about dps. they pull people higher gear in bc its more likely they won’t fuck it up

[void delta]

i mean i agree with that, its just that finding party is all about gear instead of skill, theres no way to prove competence and reliability except 10 clear title lmao and inferno is 100x harder than any normal content available so that doesnt even compare

[frank beacon]

its just bc higher gear is more trusted

to not fuck up

& waste ppls time

[rose jewel]

is this another "bring dps metter to the game its good" discussion?

[lone sigil]

If you’re complaining your cheap build won’t get in but you are skilled enough

[frank beacon]

why take the chance when you have someone whos just better

[lone sigil]

Keep in mind that there are people who aren’t cheap and are skilled enough

So even if there were logs you still wouldn’t get taken

[frank beacon]

competence is your gear. like

yes sometimes ppl are bad

[void delta]

ofc its good lol i dont have time to check everyones performance in raid individually, dps logs at least tells me whos unaware of mechanics and dps windows

[frank beacon]

but if you are a host.

would you take someone 4x3 less geared

over 5x3 geared

no.

who would??

[rose jewel]

what

[void delta]

if u cant dps on windows ur legit just bad at the game/raid, u get blacklisted or at least kicked?

[orchid willow]

los 18 or 30 needed, ull be kicked for some else that has lol

[frank beacon]

but youre missing the point

[faint pagoda]

If higher roster higher gems higher quality or better stats

[lone sigil]

Most people aren’t great at the game

[frank beacon]

dps doesnt even matter

[rose jewel]

soup, sere

ignore him ;D

[faint pagoda]

Time for bed lost ark help channel being funny again

[rose jewel]

ive been here 30 secs and i already read something quite dumb

if i were you

[void delta]

ig ill just run zdps hellkas now we'll see how it goes ok np thanks for tips bro

[rose jewel]

i would just ignore and move on

[lone sigil]

But even if people suck at the game, they still need to do raids to progress in gear

[frank beacon]

legit most content in the game 3 people are only even required to do all dps. people just scout high ilvl and gear so they can do mechs and not wipe people.

[faint pagoda]

[frank beacon]

why is hell mode related to nm/hm??

[void delta]

dps doesnt matter when youre +100 ilvl ofc because u hit once every 30s and its more than 30s of ilvl dps

[lone sigil]

The developers do not want the community to set even more arbitrary standards

[frank beacon]

are u cooked

totally different thing

[vast oriole]

might be a weird idea but what about you do your own lobby and you wont get gatekeep + not at the end of the week when everyone just want to rush the rest of raids

[void delta]

lowkey cringe community + all low elo in league degens escape to hit npc and think theyre good, imo

[frank beacon]

what

[gaunt valley]

anyone know KR's marv leap prices rn?

[rose jewel]

wait

[lone sigil]

This is basically a long rant about “my character is too cheap to get into raids, if dps meters existed they’d pick me”

[rose jewel]

is he just butthurt he got gatekep?

[vast oriole]

yes

[rose jewel]

pfffffffff

a classic

[frank beacon]

theyre like 15-20g

[rose jewel]

let the memes never die

[frank beacon]

atm

[orchid willow]

ppl wont invite thats the sad part, they want raids done and less wipes, or find learning party, engravings/ gear

[lone sigil]

Ignoring the fact that even if meter use was widespread, people with non-cheap builds and hands exist

[vast oriole]

i mean i have a friend that brang his 4x3 igniter sorc in brel g1-2 and nobody gave a fuck because he did the lobby

[gaunt valley]

ty

[void delta]

im sad at how shit the avg player of this game is when they require 5x3 +100ilvl for clown

[frank beacon]

its bc new leap is expensive one

[void delta]

if there were better metrics in this game it would be easier to judge player performance but w.e

ill just play inferno from now on

[faint pagoda]

[rose jewel]

ayy

[void delta]

at least u can find people with hands there idk

[frank beacon]

enjoy the no gear ig?

[vast oriole]

yea inferno is so good to get gold

[orchid willow]

clown wipes with less dps, once boss goes berserk mode all wipe in 1 shot