#lost-ark-help

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pale shadow
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next time hopefully i'll get it to 19

sweet nimbus
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I experienced my fair share in WoW. It’s just something to get used to. I haven’t found a guild/ppl to play with yet. Just been solo so far.

maiden locust
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just hoping the game isn't barren in early content to the point where it's impossible to make learning groups

sweet nimbus
pale shadow
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was tough

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but we made it at the end

sweet nimbus
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Although yesterday I did clown practice and kinda enjoyed the learning process. We didn’t get pass the maze though since it was matchmaking and no discord.

lean hazel
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wtf why are there no lobbies for abyss hard mode carries ? when i last played there were a ton of then

maiden locust
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it really doesn't bother me at all ngl
i pity that they had to make it this way, since newbies kept joining homework and ruining it
i'm just hoping there's a way to actually get around it as a new player, so you can progress

maiden locust
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especially since over time as the playerbase progresses early content will naturally barren out and only have reclears

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i know people not having the courage to take initiative and work to make their own learning party rather than having others do the work contributes to perceived lack of parties a lot
i'm just wondering if the game is at the point where even if you made an early content learning party no one joins because they've all moved on

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for me it's less about being gatekept and more of "are there actually people around with whom i can play with to progress"

paper rose
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What is exactly gatekeeping???

unkempt geyser
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If they don't see you qualify in their eyes your not in

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They'll deny u

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Which happens to people even on proper lvl and build

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Some people do it for guildmates others do it for synergies

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Some are just assholes

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Alot of reasons for gatekeep

maiden locust
# sweet nimbus Same.

i'm just thinking if there's no one around to actually learn fundamentals and you have to bus for everything i'd rather just not play and move on
saves the other players the effort of having to deal with yet another coattail rider as well.

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that's just my question at this point tbh
just wondering if there's enough people around to still progress

unkempt geyser
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There's always learning parties in raids

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If not you can always make them

maiden locust
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even for turbonewbie stuff like argos?

unkempt geyser
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Abyss raids maybe not so much

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Possible but idk

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But legions people teach and do learning parties often

timber mauve
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Argos is a glorified punching bag KEKW

unkempt geyser
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But thing with agros is unless your in a 1415 lobby you won't see most mechs

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So you don't ever learn the full raid

rose jewel
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any mechs*

faint pagoda
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people over there skipping clown like fuck argos deadge

unkempt geyser
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I skip clown atm

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I've cleared 5 times

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Haven't since

faint pagoda
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kekekeke not that kinda skip

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like dmg skip

unkempt geyser
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Oh yeah true

maiden locust
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and afaik gl getting more than like 1415 without actually clearing argos

faint pagoda
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theres free carrys c_gawrglance

unkempt geyser
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Yeah it is tough but if you make a lobby maybe people will join

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When I do argos I always let atleast 3 newbies in

maiden locust
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"maybe"

unkempt geyser
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Just depends on time and the person tbh

maiden locust
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time to cope ig

faint pagoda
unkempt geyser
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Na I don't bus argos anymore

faint pagoda
maiden locust
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i just tend to avoid bussing because it builds bad habits ngl

unkempt geyser
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And when I did I'd do 3 free 3 non free

maiden locust
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but it kinda feels unavoidable

unkempt geyser
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It's not bad

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If u over do it

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It is

faint pagoda
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bussing or taking the bus hmmSussythinker

unkempt geyser
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But if you do one to see the raid its not bad

maiden locust
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if u do it to like
get past argos cus its a dead raid

paper rose
maiden locust
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then its fine?

paper rose
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is this ok

unkempt geyser
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Yea

paper rose
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??

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im new

faint pagoda
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oh god

paper rose
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what

unkempt geyser
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Depends on ur ilvl and class

paper rose
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ohhh

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i want dmg

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basically

faint pagoda
unkempt geyser
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If ur pre 1415 don't worry about it

paper rose
faint pagoda
unkempt geyser
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If it helps u progress

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And if you keep a eye on what they are doing

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You learn

faint pagoda
outer mason
paper rose
paper rose
faint pagoda
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shrug then it doesnt matter

unkempt geyser
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When I was learning raids I did bus for argos and valtan

paper rose
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WAITT i didnt know its possible to EQUIP it twice

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oh my goood

unkempt geyser
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And learned it from that

paper rose
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same engraving

outer mason
maiden locust
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iirc as you were saying for argos no one even does that raid seriously anymore tho

paper rose
unkempt geyser
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Yeah

maiden locust
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just punching bag

unkempt geyser
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More or less

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Not worth for gold anymore only cards at this moment

faint pagoda
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i kinda wanna bus argos Hmmge

unkempt geyser
golden solstice
maiden locust
faint pagoda
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but then i also kinda wanna bus valtan but my frens are Pepega

unkempt geyser
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Argos gear allows you to push higher yes

paper rose
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But mass increase is good?

unkempt geyser
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But u can also do orehas and get the same thing

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Just different stats

outer mason
maiden locust
unkempt geyser
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Um kinda it's more dead cause not alot of newer players

maiden locust
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so i guess the approach is just to get past the dead content quickly via friendlies/bus/whatever and then start making learning groups in later content where people are still trickling in?

unkempt geyser
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It's just veterans and some newer

maiden locust
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since it's newbie raid

unkempt geyser
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Yeah bus argos like one or two times unless u can find a carry

sweet nimbus
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How is the hammer bro in this game?

unkempt geyser
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Then after that learn Valtan and so far on

maiden locust
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yeah that's cool

unkempt geyser
paper rose
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Spirit Absoprtion increases both movement speed and atk speed?

maiden locust
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valtan isnt too dead right?

unkempt geyser
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Na valtan is always going to be alive

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I think

faint pagoda
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oh i thought youre on euw

maiden locust
faint pagoda
unkempt geyser
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I don't ever see a point where it's deadge

paper rose
maiden locust
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i'm actually nawest in reality but nawest servers just seem dead in all games i come across

faint pagoda
maiden locust
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since it's like 1:5 population distribution

unkempt geyser
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Na west is lively

paper rose
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in ping

faint pagoda
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dont use sa unless youre a destroyer

unkempt geyser
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East has a bit more players

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But west isn't dead at all

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Never had problems finding raids

faint pagoda
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i did 3 chars for rowen

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deadge i cant anymore

unkempt geyser
maiden locust
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wish there was crossplay between east and west

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oh well, whatever

unkempt geyser
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Yeah that'd be cool

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But it's upto you if you wanna go to west

sweet nimbus
unkempt geyser
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Yeah

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I can't promise I'll be helpful 24/7

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But I'll definitely be down help with some content and stuff

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General questions

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And just to play with I'd love to have more friends UwU

spice tapir
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For T1, is it still recommedned to reach i600 and then convert to T2?

unkempt geyser
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I would but getting runes and skill points deadge

paper rose
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is it possible to reroll stone

radiant flame
paper rose
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how

radiant flame
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but you should be on story express

unkempt geyser
radiant flame
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which means you do not need to worry about honing

radiant flame
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otherwise no

spice tapir
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its alt already lvl 50, and i really dont want to do story again

radiant flame
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trust me

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and the rewards are pretty good

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level 50 is nothing

spice tapir
radiant flame
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oh

sweet nimbus
unkempt geyser
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I play on bergstrom and I play a decent amount but hours varies

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But you don't have to been on same server for end game content

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Just same region

paper rose
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how is different earrings with 60 quality and 98?

radiant flame
unkempt geyser
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40-50 stat

sweet nimbus
unkempt geyser
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Destroyers are cool

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I like pally but I like dps more

paper rose
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in market

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stats

echo owl
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looking at the wrong stats bud

radiant flame
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idk, look at the numbers maybe

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all the numbers

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reading is important in this game

sweet nimbus
radiant flame
paper rose
radiant flame
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you are there purely as as attack buff machine

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with some DR and shields

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heals are very very secondary

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dps are expected to try dodge most normal patterns

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if you heal you are losing attack buff, for the most part

sweet nimbus
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Oh that’s different. Something new I see.

radiant flame
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paladin kind of does both and is okay, but you also trade heal for optimal dps windows sometimes

unkempt geyser
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Yes supports are actual supports

radiant flame
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your dps contribution through buff/debuffs is more than a dps

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that's the main reason you exist

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otherwise speedclear parties would be 4 dps

silver trench
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Game doesn't have global tchat to ask questions and help?

real falcon
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anyone free to help me with yorn abyss dungeons?

rose jewel
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area chat takes the entire continent or the entire sea if you're sailing

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that's it

silver trench
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Well i decided to give it a shot despite clearly not being my type of game aka Diablo Poe and such but really like it at least with controller but damn is the game absolutely not friendly for new player

unkempt geyser
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Yeah it's kinda tough starting out

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But thats most mmos ngl

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But aleast if you reach out and ask for help it'll be a bit easier

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This game has a lot of stuff that kinda jumps at you, my advice is to take it one session at a time no need to rush

silver trench
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That's what i have been doing but i can see many people give a shot and not coming back after first session way too many things to check learn understand

paper rose
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can you still good progress?

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but one day 12 hours per day

unkempt geyser
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I'd split that into 2 hours daily

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Or less

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1 hour

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Or like 1 hour a day and like 6 one day

echo owl
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there’s a difference of a long gaming day vs spread out shorter days

unkempt geyser
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Cause dailies get reset

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More mats income

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Long day for raid reset

paper rose
unkempt geyser
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Yeah one ong day 4-6 hours to do some raids and 1-2 each day for dailies

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Can even be every other day with rested

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As I tell My friends

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2 hours every other day will be fine tbh

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10-20 hours weekly will be totally fine

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It'll be slow progress but still works out

radiant flame
silver trench
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What work for me was give a try 3days ago for few hours but got overwhelmed by all the thingy in UI and mechanics and logout, then back to it next day for few more didn't want to give up on bad impression still got overwhelmed but was bit better

unkempt geyser
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Take your time and enjoy the game and don't worry about fomo

radiant flame
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theres a degree of learning in all rpgs, not just mmo

unkempt geyser
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True

radiant flame
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i've played poe since beta but missed a few leagues and honestly still have no clue about how stuff like betrayal works lol, or all the different crafting options

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anyway o/t but just wanted to point out that lost ark isn't unique in having a steep learning curve

silver trench
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Feel more comfortable today but would say I'm 50% lost and just Wing it

radiant flame
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sure. and in a single player game like poe/diablo you can wing it and it doesnt matter. there is for sure more of an onus for you to follow a meta in an mmo, but that's more to do with the genre

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and just the fact that you are playing with other people who have some expectations

sweet nimbus
rose jewel
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tell ya something

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took me weeks to even know what the fak i was doing in the game

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dont expect to absorb every little thing the game has to offer in days

radiant flame
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still dont know what im doing 😄

rose jewel
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and that's ok, i had fun getting lost and just yoloing things

paper rose
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How to get more Runes???

radiant flame
rose jewel
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back when game started we had a lot more time to learn due to progress being soooooooo slow

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it was both a bad and a good thing

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bad because early tiers suckkkkkkk, good because we had time to sponge things

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nowadays, i would recommend getting into a small community (doesnt need to be a guild, important stuff is region wide) so you can get a bit more help and people could help you with a raid or two

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you can also ask here whenever

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of course, some things we would send you directly to a guide, but because its better and faster

silver trench
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Definitely feel more like single player hack n slash with coop multi for boss raid dungeon than mmo but that's how mmo have been for many years now

unkempt geyser
rose jewel
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ehhhh

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its kinda a....

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mmoarpg ?

radiant flame
rose jewel
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also that

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we have things like adventurer's tome

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but

radiant flame
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kind of why the single player content is so barebones

rose jewel
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the game is The Raids

radiant flame
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^

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pretty much zero open world content

rose jewel
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and lemme tell ya

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raids are fukin good

silver trench
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Eso ffxiv BDO guildwars All single player with online features

rose jewel
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i would argue ff14

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but i didnt play it much

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at least it has more horizontal things you can do

radiant flame
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gw2 is much more open world

rose jewel
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i think

radiant flame
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and gw2 combat is so smoge in comparison to loa, imo

graceful ledge
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me trying ffxiv rn :p fun

radiant flame
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regardless - lost ark is just focussed on raiding, and difficult raids

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it's up to you if that is something you will ultimately enjoy

silver trench
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Did play for 2years FF can do entire game Solo same for guildwars and BDO and eso now for raid and highest difficulty dungeon trials sure need group but it's optional

twin vapor
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does the number of weekly una's token increase when you get your ilvl up?

rose jewel
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i mean

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in ff

rose jewel
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didnt you need to party up to clear some story dungeons to advance on the msq

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i also had to get into some dungeons yes or yes coz i got stuck on combat level

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not enuf lvs to continue msq

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which is not a bad thing

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i also remember having to party into the ... 16man dungeon? or smt

floral notch
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guess ill use this event boost on destroyer

graceful ledge
rose jewel
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oh

graceful ledge
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much slower tho

rose jewel
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thats lame

graceful ledge
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but u technically can

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u only do if if queue times too long

rose jewel
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well there goes my mmo experience

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ruined for life

graceful ledge
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someone random i was with yesterday in a dungeon spent a buncha time explained all the mechs to me after it was over :p they r nice

echo owl
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ff community is probably better

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since there’s actual incentives in helping

graceful ledge
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the community is nice yeh, but anyway back to loa topic before we get modded @.@

rose jewel
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fite me mods

silver trench
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Yeah FFXIV commu is best I've experienced since my first MMORPG back in 2006

floral notch
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every game should clone what FF does tbh

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community wise

rose jewel
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i mean

graceful ledge
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bit difficult to do that

rose jewel
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there are bad seeds everywhere

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including ff

graceful ledge
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yeah even in ff theres those ppl, but they do try their best to reduce it

rose jewel
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ive seen stories

floral notch
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im probs going to go back to FF soon the community actually so nice ;p

rose jewel
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horror stories

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a friend has been playing for years as well

graceful ledge
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the problem for loa is basically

rose jewel
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she tells me she has had some bad encounters

graceful ledge
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you have so many thing to do

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not much time

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so more difficult to be nice in raids and help new players cuz u need ur clears quickly

floral notch
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once lost ark removes wipe mechanics I think people would help new players more

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but who knows

echo owl
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i am extremely toxic in la

graceful ledge
rose jewel
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wouldnt expect less from a bee

graceful ledge
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anyway

rose jewel
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so yeah

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LA is hyper focused on raids

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and the raids are good

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if you like raids, LA is for you

graceful ledge
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as a new player in loa still (atleast i think i still consider myself as one) ive seen ppl who join my friend’s raids asking almost every time if i know mech and honestly some wanted me gone

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just cuz low roster is huge @.@

echo owl
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just say yeah tbh

rose jewel
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yep

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if you already cleared

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no reason to say no

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ive seen people with 200+ roster fail more than people with 100-

paper rose
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im pro now

graceful ledge
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i mean

rose jewel
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so next time ask them "and you? dont jail me"

graceful ledge
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i obviously say yes but they keep doubting

radiant flame
paper rose
radiant flame
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please follow a guide

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for your class

paper rose
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of all i checked

radiant flame
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please

paper rose
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nah

radiant flame
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ok

graceful ledge
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and then i get cruel fighter cruel annihilator master counterpuncher, mvp the raid, never died once

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they died 50 bars in

paper rose
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they are overpowered and the only ones that do useful

radiant flame
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enjoy getting gatekept i guess

paper rose
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stuff

radiant flame
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so

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not grudge

paper rose
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what does gatekept mean lol

radiant flame
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or cursed doll

echo owl
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he is spitting

rose jewel
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facts

paper rose
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this is op

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i will add cursed doll

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and grudge

rose jewel
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just

paper rose
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to combo

graceful ledge
rose jewel
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just let him be

graceful ledge
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ok~

rose jewel
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i gave up on him long ago

paper rose
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But grudge is only on boss

graceful ledge
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everyone enjoys the game their own way

paper rose
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@rose jewelwhy

graceful ledge
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as long as u got 7 other ppl to play with u who dont mind what u build

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then go ahead and do wha u want lol

echo owl
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i think the denial to use a guide might be an indicator

paper rose
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of what

rose jewel
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besides many other things

paper rose
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indicator of what lol

graceful ledge
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@paper rose wha class r u playin?

raven zealot
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is gold roster wide?

paper rose
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secret

rose jewel
paper rose
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Cuz you will say more bad things

rose jewel
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same for silver

radiant flame
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then why are you here

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if you dont want us to help you

graceful ledge
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unless u ask about a class i have no idea about ;-;

rose jewel
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soul stealer

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teach me grace

graceful ledge
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o?

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wha’s that LOL

rose jewel
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your main

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dont lie :<

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teach me the ways

graceful ledge
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i main bird lover

rose jewel
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fake birb lover

graceful ledge
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artist is second yeh

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but what u need to know abt the classV

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im not running optimal artist

rose jewel
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nothing, its not out yet ;D

graceful ledge
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im running broke artist

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ohh

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that class that is coming out in KR?

rose jewel
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ye

graceful ledge
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icic

rose jewel
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she may be my 6th gold earner

graceful ledge
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o

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but yea the only thing i can teach is uhh

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all the scarecrow techs i know

rose jewel
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push buttons and do things

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got it

graceful ledge
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how to grief ur team.exe Anoted

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friendss* more of

rose jewel
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that's on my daily list

graceful ledge
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yeye

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i dont think i should be spreading all these scarecrow techs tho~ if they know they know

rose jewel
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if chikin user wasnt male, i would probably made one

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but alas

radiant flame
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female sharpshooter when

graceful ledge
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IKR

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my roster rn is just

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1 male and 6 females

rose jewel
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female paladin

graceful ledge
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@.@

rose jewel
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been a tank/sup user most of my life

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but of course i prefer female chars

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was sad when i saw paly being only male

paper rose
floral notch
paper rose
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i still not finished

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putting all to 3lvl

shy chasm
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dont you have the express pass engravings

paper rose
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nope

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on my other char

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only

shy chasm
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what class is that

paper rose
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Reaper

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i think

shy chasm
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go read the class guide peepodetective

radiant token
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Is there a way to change LA time? I wanted it synced with my PC

graceful ledge
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so whats the class of the current chara here @paper rose ? is it also reaper

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then which class engraving do ya wanna play

paper rose
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this char with screenshots is repear

graceful ledge
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o so its reaper

paper rose
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yes

graceful ledge
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wha class engraving do u wanna play?

paper rose
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what

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?

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im confused

graceful ledge
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each class has 2 class engravings

paper rose
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Ohh

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do i really need to use class engraving?

graceful ledge
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which pretty much defines your class’ playstyle~

paper rose
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can i not use it

graceful ledge
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i mean

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u can like not use it if ur in proving grounds i guess

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but thats cuz engravings arent allowed there~

paper rose
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oh

echo owl
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sorry bud you’ve been missing out on the most op engraving in the game

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your class engraving

paper rose
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ohhh

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omg

silver trench
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How do you keep the default skin? When you equip gear you look like trash but removing my gunslinger gear show a very nice skin

raven zealot
graceful ledge
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u can hide some pieces yeah

raven zealot
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not all tho

echo owl
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you learn to like the actual skins you can get in the game

graceful ledge
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my only chara with a decent outfit is my artist

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im still trying to get my ss suited up but

silver trench
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Well can't hide torso glove pauldron shoes which hide the default skin

graceful ledge
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i also wanna use the gold to hone him up

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lol

raven zealot
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then get diff gear or buy skins

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one thing d3 did right, transmogs

silver trench
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Or just get naked

graceful ledge
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nuh uh

rose jewel
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Bikini op

graceful ledge
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but yeah i gotta finish honing him to 1-6 and then i’ll look for outfits~

rose jewel
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The less clothing the more defense

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It's obvious

silver trench
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I meant removing chest shoulder glove shoes and looks 👍

graceful ledge
rich leaf
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yo uh what was the tip about 1500 honing? like when u reach 1490 u hone something then uh gear transfer, something like that i forgor

echo owl
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i told myself for this week I was not gonna touch any vertical progression and just buy like 7 skins or something

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it works

graceful ledge
graceful ledge
echo owl
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you do brel 1-2 and gear transfer into the new piece

graceful ledge
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im 1460 KEKW

rose jewel
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What

raven zealot
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how do i use una instant complete tix

rose jewel
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Open una window

graceful ledge
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oh yeah 1490 just do brel and make brel pieces then hone those

rich leaf
rose jewel
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Push complete

silver trench
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I bet that gunslinger default skin ain't on shop

radiant flame
radiant flame
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please read a guide

raven zealot
rich leaf
rich leaf
rose jewel
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Need to have completed the una at least once before

rich leaf
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u can use the +1

echo owl
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gloves

rich leaf
raven zealot
paper rose
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wth

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i will do anything i can solo

rich leaf
raven zealot
radiant flame
rich leaf
paper rose
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so everything is in parties from 1370???

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trashhh

radiant flame
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for progression, yes

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you need to raid for progression

paper rose
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oh

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ok

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cant i just do matchmaking?

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without using party

radiant flame
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you can. you wont clear

paper rose
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its ok

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i will try until i get lucky

radiant flame
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sure

paper rose
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:)

rich leaf
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except on another char

rose jewel
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Also, next time throw us the whole screen

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Some things are sometimes needed to check on the ui

raven zealot
#

figured it out ty

raven zealot
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kekw

radiant flame
#

Did I see you play reaper

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Then follow this

lavish groveBOT
#
The Ultimate Reaper Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Reaper class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

sweet nimbus
#

Is striker any good btw? I love the martial arts playstyle.

paper rose
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ok

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wth

radiant flame
#

You also need a good amount of horizontal progression for it to not feel clunky to play

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It’s just one of those classes that builds some meter and spends it for damage

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Which means you need a lot of spec and wealth runes (so that you build meter quicker)

sweet nimbus
#

Hmm I don’t mind the meter build up. I feel like most classes need a lot of investment in this game so that doesn’t bother me either

radiant flame
#

Also male class 🙈

snow wadi
#

Anyone repeated the quest from the una task boy?

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After being done with it

raven zealot
#

yes

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what are perception shards and crystallized disorder used for

timber mauve
#

Exchange at chaos dungeon npc.

glossy otter
#

guys, how exactly does the skill tree transfer work?

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or well what do i use it for

vagrant veldt
#

enhance the tripods

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or the skill bonuses or whatever the correct name is

glossy otter
#

is it like a free tripod upgrade?

vagrant veldt
#

well its the only tripod upgrade really

shy chasm
glossy otter
#

ah so extra ranks into the tripod but u need the powder

shy chasm
#

ye

glossy otter
#

thanks 😄

sinful dawn
#

Does the maxroll honing calc reflect recent honing changes, or do I need to factor that in manually?

pliant pivot
#

it’s updated

civic arch
#

ehm is t1 tower floor 48 bugged ?

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how tf am i supposed to defeat monsters while i cant auto attack or use abilities

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i also cant dash

shy chasm
#

Use panacea then ult boss

civic arch
#

alt ?

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aight ill just do that

warped terrace
#

stat increase potions obtained are roster wide right?

wheat pond
#

Can someone answer me on a few questions

outer mason
wheat pond
#

I m kind lost in those quests

outer mason
wheat pond
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Um when i m gettin the quest She waits he leaves

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The one that will let me play abysal dungeon

outer mason
dark mica
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the one that spawns in the middle

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first

paper rose
#

is it possible to reroll the bonus effect

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of item

shy chasm
#

Like accs?

quartz tapir
#

I need some advice, I have my reaper at 1540, but I’m waiting for aero because I’m gonna main that, do I hone my reaper to do hard Brel or just hoard mats for aero?

shy chasm
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Only thing you can reroll stats on is quality of gear and braclets peepodetective

paper rose
warm anvil
#

how many more weeks is the grand prix shop?

lavish groveBOT
#
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dreamy bluff
shy chasm
warm anvil
dreamy bluff
#

may 10 i believe

#

whenever the event honing books expire is when the store go away

gleaming token
#

for saydon. can you queue for both rehearsal and normal in the same week or does it lock you out

hollow scroll
#

the tokens expire then

empty stone
#

hey guys kinda new here, what stats should paladin focus on?

lavish groveBOT
#
The Ultimate Paladin Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Paladin class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

empty stone
#

oh thanks alot

coral umbra
#

can I check what is average artisan energy for each honing level with honing calculator? or maybe there is a table that list average artisan energy for honing?

#

is there a wiki for the honing odds?

outer mason
outer mason
coral umbra
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+25 has rate 0.5%, first time you fail it goes up but 0.5% to 1%? and how far does it go?

worn pulsar
#

Where can i find a party to run maps with?

outer mason
# coral umbra +25 has rate 0.5%, first time you fail it goes up but 0.5% to 1%? and how far do...

https://lostark.fandom.com/wiki/Honing

  • Each failed honing attempt on the same gear increase the honing rate by 10% of the base honing rate, not including rate-up materials (e.g. failing a 30% honing increases the rate to 33% for the next attempt, and failing again increases it to 36%).
  • This can increase the base honing rate by up to double its original value (e.g. 5% honing can go up to 10% maximum after multiple fails).
timber mauve
coral umbra
coral umbra
shy prism
#

I got a Question regarding Hanumatan

Is there a way to tell once he grabs someone whether it will be a stagger check or a counter? Is it phase specific? blobthinkingglare Kinda having trouble with that one cause I keep thinking it's one and then it's the other.

shy chasm
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if he grabs in the last phase its stagger and before its counter cuz i remember in the last phase he doesnt let go of the player(s) till stagger is over or they die

mighty linden
#

should i push another alt to 1490 and get 5x3 or should i push my other alt to 1500 just pushed it to 1490 this week

radiant flame
#

if you get actually grabbed it's in the final phase and it's stagger

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and he can grab multiple people

radiant flame
#

1500 is sort of meh - opens up 3/4 but not much else

shy prism
#

I have to look at the fight again then, phase 3 grab will always be stagger as far as I thought but he can grab people in P2 (Just not multiple I guess) which ends with a counter Hmm I think at least

radiant flame
#

p2? i don't think theres a grab mech? idk, maybe you can timestamp the atk guide if you think there is one

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p2 is just spirit bomb, before counter, and phase end is stagger with lines, then counter

sour moss
#

so is there like a list of servers that are populated

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legit been waiting for 10 min to find any group anywhere

pseudo atlas
#

matchmaking content is region-wide, and there is basically nobody playing in any server or region below ilvl1300

outer mason
paper rose
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i often find people below ilvl1300

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there is even at 320 or smth

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or 340 i forgot

coral umbra
paper rose
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at start matchmaking extremely helpful if u want resources fast cuz 1500 ilvl guys join and one tap the boss

coral umbra
#

never mind the double of starting base 0.5% max is 1% and 3% base is 6% max, thank you

radiant flame
minor briar
coral umbra
radiant flame
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im not sure why it's complicated

coral umbra
#

there was big discussion about what is average, many claimed that 50% artisan energy is average, but I did some math and it is not even close, not even with full juice

radiant flame
#

you gain artisan at just under half your chance

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so idk why you think "it's not even close"

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you can check on maxroll under average

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i think you are mathsing wrong

coral umbra
#

if 1000000 people hone item to +20, more than half of them go full 100% if they don't use any juice, and I can't figure out how many if they go full juice, my guess more than half

radiant flame
#

you understand probability right

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you are completely guessing that "more than half of them go to full artisan"

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from first principles, given that you gain artisan energy at just under half your hone chance, 50% is about average

blazing badger
#

45% isn't it?

radiant flame
#

yes, that sounds about right

outer mason
#

46.5% to be exact 🤓

radiant flame
#

50% is probably just over average

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if you don't believe the maths, you are only lying to yourself i guess. but fundamentally it doesn't change the fact that you have to still hone like the rest of us bozos

coral umbra
radiant flame
coral umbra
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that is what I said

radiant flame
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i'm sorry but why are you refusing to believe maths

coral umbra
#

what exactly I am refusing to believe?

radiant flame
#

that 50% artisan is about average

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you say it's "not even close"

coral umbra
coral umbra
#

I asked chatgpt this question "if event has 0,5% chance to happen and if failed next try odds will be 10% high of the previous try up to maximum of 1%, every time event fails a number is calculated as odds success for this even multiplied by 0.465, for every failed event these numbers are summed up, how what is minimal number of failed events would it take for this sum to be bigger than 1?"

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what do you think it said?

radiant flame
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??

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why are you asking chatgpt

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when this is a maths question

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that you can work out using maths

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maybe work it out using 50% chance of success

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and see if you come to a sensible answer

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oh wait, it seems like you get to 50% artisan after about 2 taps

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funny

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because that's probably around the average

coral umbra
#

50%*0.465=23,25% artisan energy, fail twice and you have 46,5% artisan

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but if odds are lower than artisan would be also lower, and if higher artisan would also be higher

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you multiply odds, and then add the artisan, but for odds you keep multiplying

radiant flame
#

ok, i think you're an idiot

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so i'll just stop trying to explain

wise hatch
#

Which ship should I try to get and stick with? I got 30 of these, but Idk what ship is the best yet

radiant flame
#

is your best all rounder ship until you want to spend your life getting astray

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which i don't recommend doing

late vine
#

long shot asking a question like this, but: I heard Zeals say you can get 2 boss rush tickets per week per character from chaos dungeons, is there a way for me to tell if my alts have already received 2 before reset so I can stop doing them before the next reset? Assuming you'd have to keep track of it outside of the game

the 2 weekly quests for boss rush would work but I already burn those from tickets I get from the bloodstone vendor

wise hatch
radiant flame
late vine
radiant flame
#

i don't really recommend that

late vine
#

trying to find ways to consolidate and play the game less

coral umbra
fast river
#

guys what are these for?

radiant flame
fast river
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the items w house icon

radiant flame
#

boss rush will also consume time

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but no, no real way

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there is a "pity" system for boss rush but

late vine
#

that's what I was thinking just wanted another perspective ty

radiant flame
#

i dont think anyone actually knows how it works

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i've certainly not seen a sure answer for it

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and if you want to reduce time, i dont think its worth trying to look for the answer

late vine
#

yeah I'd have to use a spreadsheet or something, probably not worth it

radiant flame
#

on my alts i have mountains of boss rush tickets

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because running them is too much

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so yeah, id say if you're short on time, you wont even run them ever lol

late vine
#

i get like 20k from selling the gems from boss rush from the ones i get from the bloodstone vendor alone

rigid plank
radiant flame
#

sure

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but we get gold from a lot of things

coral umbra
#

@radiant flame for average to be 50% artisan, artisan energy would have to be odds multiplied by 0.5, not 0.465 as it is in the game, but I figured out how to use odds calculator

radiant flame
#

i think i even said it's a bit above average

coral umbra
#

that bit gets very big if odds are very small

radiant flame
#

?!

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the proportional difference is the same

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you only think it's "big" because you have to tap a lot on a small hone chance

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going to pity on 0.5% starting odds is what, 200 taps or something

outer mason
radiant flame
#

anyway, im going to stop

#

the answers are all there

coral umbra
icy glade
coral umbra
radiant flame
#

probablty 46.5%

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but 50% isn't far off

radiant flame
#

it actually skews the average lower

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because under a no-pity system

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it is theoretically possible to never hit

atomic tide
timber mauve
#

Main

atomic tide
#

even if its only +30 till 1445?

coral umbra
timber mauve
#

Yes

atomic tide
#

okk

radiant flame
timber mauve
atomic tide
#

will do, thx for tip

outer mason
#

If we take the example of 50% honing chance
1st try: 50% -> 23.25% artisan
2nd try: 55% -> 48.825% artisan (23.25% + 25.575%)
On average with 50% honing rate, it's reasonable to assume that it'll take 2 tries (the formula is more complex but let's keep it simple)
So yeah on average you'll end up with 46.5% artisan energy, give or take

radiant flame
#

i mean i literally tried to use this example

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but yeah, idk

coral umbra
#

thank you for answers, sorry about confusion, cause I didn't know how odds change after each fail

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figuring these odds with your help was way more fun than sitting in lobby waiting for supports 😄

minor warren
#

how long is this current punika powerpass until?

outer mason
minor warren
forest bear
#

i should not hone my weapon then?

radiant flame
#

ignore

outer mason
forest bear
#

oh i can still transfer it ?

#

so there is no difference ?

outer mason
#

yeah it doesn't matter

forest bear
#

Well its time to do Raids but im scared

outer mason
#

Godspeed SMURFING

icy glade
forest bear
#

Whats best upgrade lvl to use them?

limpid moth
#

before they expire

forest bear
#

good point

maiden locust
#

how many days did it took u guys to complete the event with a new char?

shy chasm
#

the express?

timber mauve
#

Good talk

craggy tusk
valid tusk
#

If i honed to 1490 by leaving wep at 1475 and doing armor to 1505

timber mauve
#

I call cap

valid tusk
#

When i transfer my wep to brel piece

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Does it still change to 1490?

craggy tusk
heavy apex
#

any thirian bois here need help for punika chaos gate

timber mauve
fallow trail
#

You can definitely finish story express in 12 hours or less

craggy tusk
timber mauve
#

There’s no way without skipping.

brittle plover
#

i did it around 15-20ish

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agonizing on bard

timber mauve
craggy tusk
#

People seem to be disagreeing with you. shrug

timber mauve
#

Yeah, had it done by second day and was doing valtan hard mode on the third day.

timber mauve
fallow trail
#

There’s a speedrun vod on one guy taking 10 hours finishing up to Punika

brittle plover
#

did you count the time you spent off the character too

fallow trail
#

Probably a little more than 10 hours, but definitely under 11 hours

timber mauve
#

My fastest to level 50 is 10 hours and 30 minutes with anikka skip.

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I’ve manually done the story four times. WeirdPaper

brittle plover
timber mauve
#

Or money I guess KEKW

shut pasture
#

12 hours for 10-50 then through North Vern, Shushire, Rohendel, Yorn, Feiton, then Punika? 10-50 alone, if not speedrunning the absolute most efficient way possible is 12-15 hours by itself, then each subsequent story after that is at least 1 hour to an hour and a half.

timber mauve
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Yeah, took me 11 hours to do 10>50 with no skips.

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Maybe 12, but I bet I could get it to 11 or so with shift g.

brittle plover
#

shouldnt take 2 hours per continent after no?

timber mauve
#

Eh, 1.5 id say is accurate with shift g.

shut pasture
shut pasture
brittle plover
#

10-50 felt much longer especially not being able to skip any continents than rohendel and past

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even at 2 hours every continent after shushire plus a generous 15 hours for before then is 25 hours

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thats gotta be like text to speech speed on every dialogue

shut pasture
#

Mhmm and new players or even most are not going to be doing a sub 12 hour run all the way to punika.

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Just cuz some dude did it in a video doesn't mean thats everyone

pseudo atlas
#

up to lv50 is like 7-10 hours at breakneck pace and then 60-90m each continent after, just add another 20-50% for casual rushing through story

brittle plover
#

plus you can chop south vern for most purposes since no one sane is going to kt svern after manually playing to punika and theres no real reason to rush it in a day after the rest

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i dont see it taking 30 hours

timber mauve
brittle plover
#

yup on bard

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i have a sidequest from each continent left over for fun

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so humphrey is in vern and shushire at the same time

shut pasture
timber mauve
#

Wait, did you use shift g?

brittle plover
#

it should be shorter

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i read most of the dialogue

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so my run should be on the slower side of fast

timber mauve
#

Yeah, no way.

shut pasture
#

If you're reading the dialogue it is definitely not shorter than 30 hours

timber mauve
#

I think you’re grossly underestimating the time it took.

shut pasture
#

Yeah

brittle plover
#

🤷‍♂️

timber mauve
#

It happens tho. Especially when one gets into story and such.

brittle plover
#

i think id toaster bath if i played 30 hours of story

shut pasture
#

Welp hate to break it to you

#

But you did

timber mauve
#

I’d wager it took you around 35 hours of playtime or longer.

shut pasture
#

People have been timing this stuff out for years

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Before all the QoL it was 20+ hours just from 10 to 50

#

That has been slowly cut down over time with changes they've made to the process

timber mauve
shut pasture
#

They pretty much cut 30 minutes off just with the removal of the prologue gameplay

timber mauve
#

Yeah, prologue deadge

heavy apex
#

is their a way to clear this solo ?

timber mauve
#

Not really, no.

fallow trail
#

If chaos gates don’t scale, maybe if you’re juiced

shut pasture
#

They scale you

fallow trail
#

But I’m pretty sure they scale

icy glade
#

Not sure they scale down if you start off with like 5 or 6, but everyone leaves except 1.

heavy apex
#

f nobody does these anymore 😦

#

they are scaled down

fallow trail
#

Is that Punika gate?

heavy apex
#

yea

fallow trail
#

Rip

heavy apex
#

i thought everybody would do this for leg rage rune guess not or prob most have it already

fallow trail
#

Best bet is just to do it with bots if you see a large number of them

shut pasture
icy glade
# heavy apex f nobody does these anymore 😦

I'm saying they scale to the numbers of players in said instance at the start.
If people leave during... The instance isn't going to scale itself because they left for whatever reasons.

heavy apex
#

i should up before it opened and waited

shut pasture
#

Might wanna try around peak times for your region, then

icy glade
#

But, your best bet is to go 1415 and do south vern. There are people there.

shut pasture
#

Probably have better luck

heavy apex
#

usually lts does 12 mill in their it was 2m max

shut pasture
#

But people don't do those for the leg rune, they mostly already have it

#

They'd do it for the maps if anything

heavy apex
#

yep rip

celest fable
#

there are always people for vern's one

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I am playing on EUW which haters call dead region and I still get to play them with 30 people squads easily, at any moment

shut pasture
#

Nothing to do with being a hater, just factual. Comparatively its just got less people on it.

celest fable
#

Comparatively maybe but people really exaggerate it

maiden locust
#

which rapport gives u the best rewards?

shut pasture
#

Its not RU, but it has made things more difficult for people with getting groups and the market (to my understanding at least on this one) and such.

celest fable
#

My experience ends at Vykas right now and had no issues on getting learning parties, getting free carry runs on argos/valtan, progressing every abyssal including waters ones, building characters during the week (5x3 + 4x3), getting cool skins for relatively cheap parties

#

And from what I've been told before I started, it was the content that I would have issues with, since "everyone is at the last stage of the game"

#

I came back to the game early January or late December, I play it daily and really never had issues with it

devout cape
#

Wtf I have to spend pheons to transfer stuff from one character to another? Accessories?

celest fable
#

Meanwhile it drives people away for no reason and it might actually worsen the situation, I've already read recommendations that even accounts with 200 hours spent on EUW should move to EUC, what kind of talk is it

celest fable
hollow scroll
#

2 servers or 15 CluelessChatting which one will be dead first

maiden locust
tropic nimbus
#

speaking of, should i be using all rapport chests immediately?

fallow trail
timber mauve
celest fable
timber mauve
#

He couldn’t find groups to raid with.

timber mauve
#

He said, “High end raiding on multiple characters anytime outside of peak is rough. Just killed it for me.”

tropic nimbus
celest fable
#

Keep in mind that for many of these you will need virtues which are rewards from rapports as well

#

That's why Punika should be the last one as some of these npcs require very high stats

icy glade
#

And some quests too.

celest fable
#

You can skip it with legendary gifts

#

But you might not have enough of them or it might not be worth the effort

#

And if you fail then you're stuck

fallow trail
tropic nimbus
#

my current stash

fallow trail
#

Make sure to keep some epic ones around since the island rapports won’t let you use legendary ones if they go over however much is required

tropic nimbus
#

i was mainly going for the ignea tokens

celest fable
#

If you like wolves then the shushire wolf gives you recolored wolf mount

tropic nimbus
#

finish every regions rapport first

maiden locust
tropic nimbus
maiden locust
tropic nimbus
#

if you did fair enough, alot of people got the duplicate packs

fallow trail
maiden locust
#

didnt knew u could duplicate those

maiden locust
tropic nimbus
#

thinking to just pop some rapport chests

strange gyro
#

legion raids give 4.5k gold?

fallow trail
#

Yeah if that’s what you want go ahead.

tropic nimbus
maiden locust
#

na bro, not here. I got my plat packs and the dupes that were given

#

might sell later down the road

fallow trail
hollow scroll
celest fable
vapid bluff
#

Brel Hard gate 6 0x Mech Question- Can more than one person collect orbs and contribute to damaging the the large orb or is one person usually assigned to collect all the small orbs to destroy the large one solo?

maiden locust
hollow scroll
maiden locust
#

i know i should be investing my hard earned minimum wage on some crypto currency but whatever, fidelity is doing okay 😄

craggy tusk
#

Pffff. stocks and investments don't get leapstones. Full investment in to Lost Ark, choo choo.

maiden locust
#

i cant even talk when they ask me how much i lost on gme and shib, im out yall be safe.

limpid moth
#

i need an expert, what is better?

coral patio
#

I need a medic XD

#

trying to get my first 5x3 but well yeah

timber mauve
#

Oh fuсk

#

You done goofed

coral patio
#

XD

#

something like that yes

timber mauve
sharp flume
#

for the presets, if you dont have customizing folder, you need to make one right?

coral patio
#

I did, but can't find a solution to it without getting 12 grudge

coral patio
#

unless I go 10/7 stone lmfao

sharp flume
timber mauve
coral patio
#

but what engravings should the stones be? cuz on the build I have it's grudge adren

timber mauve
#

If you already got leg grudge, don’t use a rock with it.

coral patio
#

^^ i don't 😛

timber mauve
#

Oh wait

coral patio
#

got lego surge unfortunately

timber mauve
#

I read your screenshots backwards.

#

Just work it out on that link I sent ya.

#

Shouldn’t be too hard.

coral patio
#

9/6 stone it is then, cuz that's the only solution I could find 😛

timber mauve
coral patio
#

I've got a 7/6 6 being grudge and 7 being adren if I go +1 on grudge then it will be 1 point over 15 for no reason because the book is 9 + stone 6 = 15

#

^^ that's why I asked what engravings the stone should have

shy turret
#

can anyone tell me which one is the best for artist?

echo owl
#

things that you aren’t using the books on

#

yearning

#

and only yearning

shy turret
#

thank you

#

what about reaper?

echo owl
#

entropy

lavish groveBOT
#
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shy turret
#

tysm

timber mauve
lavish groveBOT
#
The Ultimate Artist Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Artist class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

#
The Ultimate Reaper Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Reaper class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

rose wren
#

use betrayal for not serious stuff and pvp when u can switch to any set later on

wintry coral
#

What rock is the best to cut on a support

timber mauve
grim pendant
#

if you have awk 12 is wtv you want

#

it will be cheap

versed wolf
#

why i cant put it on market