lost-ark-help

[wraith basin]

unlucky af 😭

[swift latch]

ah

[rose jewel]

way too unlucky

[swift latch]

got it on the last try T.T

i just bought cheap accessories for my alt to 4x3, but spent 70ish pheons

do you save your gold enough to get 5x3 then purchase it, what's the efficient method

[rose jewel]

5x3 is not required until clown

going 5x3 being new is not really something you do, you probably lack both the stone and the legendary books

you use the hyper express for a free 4x3 and get resources to get alts a nice cheap 4x3 setup so they can farm the same stuff as your main

you get more gold, more thingies, and then you hone main further

[swift latch]

my main is on hyper express, in this case should i keep buying leg engraving books to get 2x12

then setup 5x3 later on

[rose jewel]

do you have alts, do you plan to have alts, how many alts do you plan to have

[swift latch]

i have 1 at valtan hard, i bought 4x3 for that alt, but pheon cost were so much

[rose jewel]

i mean

we just got 50 for free and you get 10 from event a week

so you just needed 15 total

and i bet you had more from mokoko challenge and login event

[digital escarp]

alright gamers i need to know, if i buy this w/ my gems can i use it on all 3 of my assassins

[swift latch]

right now I'm afraid setting up alt to 4x3 costs so much, 80 pheons and 10k for cheap accessory totals up to 30k-ish gold right

it's better to build up then get income to breakeven even around 3-4 weeks with valtan, vykas, argos?

[rose jewel]

30k is around the cost it should be yes

....or maybe not

[craggy tusk]

4x3, with an okay stone and being okay with meh quality should cost like... 5k gold total. If you want good quality, then yes, price is going to go up a lot.

[rose jewel]

i believe it should be less

blue crystals should have went down by a lot lately

unless you are from SA

then you're kinda very much fucked

[swift latch]

im on EUC

[rose jewel]

you're buying the 100 pheon pack, right?

[swift latch]

yeah

900 crystal right

[rose jewel]

and how much are blues

[swift latch]

2400g

for 95 blue

[rose jewel]

yeah around 25 to 30k for the whole alt geared

kinda cheap ngl

[swift latch]

ok2

[rose jewel]

but again

[swift latch]

thanks just wanted to solve this dilemma haha

yes

[rose jewel]

you should have gotten a lot of pheons for free

[swift latch]

just started month ago

so total i had was 150 pheons i think

[rose jewel]

doesnt matter, you got 50 and then 10 a week, then mokoko challenge probably had more, then login

[swift latch]

farming anguished isle and car event for pheons

[rose jewel]

thats enough for one alt and almost another

50 are from the thank you letter or w/e

[swift latch]

i had around 150 tomorrow, to setup 1 alt i spend 80-ish
now i have 60. so maybe with day15 login reward I can setup my 2nd alt

how much is it spent for 5x3, just for accessory and stone

[craggy tusk]

Stone is RNG. Could cost a lot, could cost a little.

Price of accessory depends on what quality you want

[swift latch]

how much was it in your previous experiences

[craggy tusk]

My gunlancer, not including legendary books, was about 35k.

[swift latch]

what's the average quality

[craggy tusk]

80ish

[swift latch]

35k is just for the gold right

not counting the pheon cost

[craggy tusk]

Right

[midnight nimbus]

how many brel horns in g2 chest? (the one you bid / auction) Couldn't find info in pins, but maybe im blind

[fiery prairie]

if i do gear conversion once is it free after

[pseudo atlas]

gear conversion is always free, you just need enough mats to unlock it

[cobalt spade]

any dps wanna join normal vykas g2 learner group NAE?

[shut pasture]

I would recommend going to the #937124645092610059 channel for this, as well as any of the other similar channels that may be relevant.

[cobalt spade]

ah that channel looks kinda dead and we need 1 person so i thought id ask here anyway

[rose jewel]

i am very sorry to tell you that, indeed, you are ultra blind

[blazing quarry]

What is the best lost ark guide page?

kinda new sorry for the dumby question

[maiden locust]

So I just found out that one of my friends purchased the plat founder pack and never even claimed it? Is it possible for them to give it to me somehow?

they're one of those people that just buy stuff on steam just to buy

[rose jewel]

for overall things on what skills to get while leveling, quests on guides, overall newbie things, what to focus on etc, maxroll.
For specialized skill builds for a certain class, community guides ("/" followed by the class you wanna check, ex: /artist)

there's also some things at #new-player-tips , mobalitics and you can ask here if you dont get something

[paper rose]

Akrasia Express

Boost up to 1490 ilvl

[rigid plank]

Odd of you to post the RU roadmap? was that on accident?

[shut pasture]

Thats not for our version, just in case that isn't clear.

[tawdry yoke]

is leap essence bad for excavation?

cause it lowers the # of minigames?

[elder anchor]

How to turn off photo sensitivity warning audio?

[snow wadi]

You can actually steal excavating nodes if you have minigame up?
Wtf is that?
I was just digging up a purple node and some rando came along and started his minigame on mine, while I was digging?!

[midnight nimbus]

I see the first clear reward and the extra rewards, but I don't see the chest you bid on

[shy yarrow]

chest is 5 pieces

both hm and nm

[midnight nimbus]

I don't see that info in pins... >_> ty for answering

[shy yarrow]

pretty much every box is 5 pieces

[light zealot]

Does t3 tower work the same as the others where alts get more honing mats on the 2nd time clear through than the first completion rewards?

[sage widget]

would like to check on how does story express works? so i am a new player and have 2 characters in my account, started 1 and did not really liked it so i switched over to another character but now i'm unable to use the story express on my new character

[sage widget]

was i supposed to use the story express right from the start? i noticed the character selection period being till june so i did not pick till now and i realise i can't do so for my character anymore?

[tawdry yoke]

the moment I get brel gear should I gear transfer?

or keep upgrading past lvl 20

[maiden locust]

you should transfer

brel gear gives better chances for success

[maiden locust]

also I believe at +20(1490), its the highest ilvl gain when you transfer and resets to +12(1510)

[maiden locust]

so you havent used story express before, right?

[sage widget]

nope i have not, but my character has already completed on the border quest without choosing it for story express...does this mean i can't use it on my character anymore?

i just realise i can only choose the story express on a character which hasn't done on the border quest apparently?

[maiden locust]

yeah, you cant choose it now, you can however make a new char and use it on it

how far you reached on your current char?

lvl

[sage widget]

i'm at 36 now, about to be able to sail out

starting over again is crazy for me lol cos this one is actually my 2nd character, i previously made a db and didn't like it and that one was at level 41...

god why is there such a limitation lmao

[maiden locust]

Well you have a hard choice to make

you can continue with your char normally, and make another char to use story express on it

or store roster-bound things in roster-storage and make a new char and delete current one

[light zealot]

There isn't a hard choice to make

make a new character and use the story express to get to 1340 for free

you haven't reached 50 on either of your characters yet which only takes 10hrs of playing

[graceful ledge]

can i queue pvp with my friends from other server?

[rigid plank]

PvP is region wide so yes

Oh wait, do you mean group together and then queue?

[graceful ledge]

ye

[rigid plank]

I don't think that would be possible, that would require the same server. My next best method to queue together is to click in at the same time and hope to be in the same match and team but that would be hard to do

[buoyant horizon]

Hello, beginner here !
I'm a freshly lvl 50 character and I heard about a "punika pass"
I would like to benefit from this pass but I'm affraid I'll not push the quests fast enough until punika cuz my playtime is limited due to work (I'm at Arthéline for now)
Do you have any tips to min max my journey ?

Thanks in advance 🙂

[astral root]

Ignore everything except your story express

When you finish Punika look up Berver's friend questline

[blissful ice]

The pass is used for a secondary character to boost it up, however the lower tier grind is being condensed and theres a system later in the game that allows you to skip continents on repeat charectors. I honestly wouldn't think much about using the pass and just take your time and have fun, the game is super fun as you get in to it so no need to rush through and spoil the experience fomo-ing over something largely irrelevant (punika pass) later on

[forest bear]

On what class engraving should i play Destroyer?

[brave rapids]

Rage Hammer is the meta engraving for most Destroyers. You know the Z skill (Hypergravity mode) on Destroyer - where all your skills are disabled and all you do is just slap things with your hammer? Gravity Training just does that more often. So it depends on your preference. Do like using your skills more for damage, or do you prefer going into Hypergravity more often?

Rage Hammer just give more crit + damage to your skills

[buoyant horizon]

okay thanks a lot

[forest bear]

thanks, oh and do u mind quickly explain the currency exchange im to dumb to understand it lmao

I mean i see the royal crystal sale offer highest is 2400 gold so i can set it arround that?

[brave rapids]

You're on the Purchase Gold tab? You're trying to sell Royal Crystals?

[forest bear]

yes

[pallid panther]

Guys it it worth to try to roll a 10 dmg gem ? i was wondering. Since its 50% and you gain less if you roll dmg compared to your loss if you roll a cd.

Isnt it better to just sell gem 9 in average to buy it direct ? or maybe roll the cd 9 and keep the 9 dmg

[brave rapids]

Yeah so basically the top left graph shows what other people are selling their Royal Crystal for, starting from the bottom (Lowest price is colored blue). The bottom left graph shows what people are buying Blue Crystals for, starting from the top (Highest price is colored red).

Basically Royal Crystals (RC) is bought using irl money and then turned into Gold, but on the Buyer side, instead of receiving RC, they receive Blue Crystals (BC), which F2P players can even access.

[brave rapids]

Depends on if you're a gambler or not. You have a chance to gain about an extra 250k, or a chance to lose about 90k (at least in NA-E prices). Or you could just sell the three Level 9s, and make a guaranteed 90+90+90 k.

Another gamba decision to make in the gamba-based game

and the price difference between 9 Cooldown vs 9 Damage is small enough that I don't think it's worth just waiting to roll CDs. At least, imo.

it's about an 8-10k difference on NA-E

[brave rapids]

yeah its about 200k vs 500k

[pallid panther]

Yeah

[brave rapids]

just saw the 2nd ss lol

yeah its a fat loss if you roll bad

[pallid panther]

So assuming those prices would be wise to just sell the 9's

and buy right away

i guess ?

[brave rapids]

do you feel lucky?

[pallid panther]

Not really

[brave rapids]

its just another RNG choice in this insanely RNG-based game xd

[pallid panther]

When i want so much one thing the game doesnt give me

But when i click on an alt it usually 1st try

[brave rapids]

even if you had all level 9 Cooldowns, its still 336k

compared to if you flop your level 10 roll into a cooldown, you only get 195k

-141k loss

but if you roll 10 Dmg, thats +158k

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pallid panther]

so its even on the end of the day

But if i would like wants to be a 10 dmg gem

selling should be the best option\

Because rolling a 10 cd and buying

its a 300k dif

[brave rapids]

if you sold 3 level 9s and bought a level 10, the difference is 158k, you'd have to pull that out from somewhere

so you could think of a level 10 Dmg gem as worth 4 level 9s in a way

cuz another level 9 would pretty much pay that out

[pallid panther]

hmmm

[brave rapids]

Sell 4 level 9s, and buy a level 10 Damage Gem
or
Bad-roll into a level 10 Cooldown Gem, now you have about 2 Level 9s worth of money

since a 10 CD is worth about 2 level 9s lol

and then the third option: RNGesus blesses you 🙏 free +158k

[pallid panther]

I mean i would like my first 10 gem be dmg cause surge

So pay more to avoid getting frustrated i guess

[brave rapids]

[pallid panther]

What i "would do" was

Roll 3x 9 cd gem to try a 10, and if i fail i can just put it on the shadowhunter

And use the 9 dmg on my alts

[brave rapids]

sure if you feel like it's worth having a 10CD on alts ¯_(ツ)_/¯

i personally just play like 1 main and everything else gets just "decent" stuff

my alts are all level 5 gemming right now, and i'll probably bump them upto level 7s with the Ebony Cube change in May

but I'll probably only keep my main using 9+

but that's just me. I know a lot of people do the "6 mains" strat

6 characters 1540+ already

[pallid panther]

Im at the same spot as you

But with some 8-9's on main

and alts on 7

[brave rapids]

yeah if you're like me, you'd probably feel the level 10 CD is wasted on Shadowhunter (unless its your main)

[pallid panther]

Im changing my main back to deathblade

[brave rapids]

I'd probably pick level 10 Maelstrom cooldown before giving it to my shadowhunter lol

yeah im a DB main

[pallid panther]

I tried to be a reaper main but it dont deal same dmg

So i got kinda frustrated and went back

[brave rapids]

its rough being good at reaper, they deal damage but they feel twice as squishy to any of the comparable classes

[pallid panther]

I mean.. isnt like "being good" the problem

I feel like im above average

The problem is : Gatekeeping

and u have to do more to get same results as an easy class

[brave rapids]

https://clips.twitch.tv/RelievedPunchyThymeBrainSlug-P50YJ6TystBczMwS

yeah Reaper is definitely more effort for less reward it feels like

kinda reminds me of my AT Scouter

[pallid panther]

The system would be better if it had more chance to be dmg if you put 2 / 3 dmg 9 gems

Instead of just being 50%

Im having a feeling that past 1540+

Things got extremely rough

[maiden locust]

Daily resets at 5 or 6 am?

[pallid panther]

In therms of honning cost

[brave rapids]

6am if you're EST

[maiden locust]

Ty got some time

[zenith ginkgo]

how are some people 1460 with full relic with SHIT builds and I'm here with a near perfect db build and gets gatekept bc no full relic when I need to get in to get relic

[brave rapids]

Dogshit community has dogshit mental

dogshit gatekeeping

[maiden locust]

What are you guys doing up so early?

[zenith ginkgo]

I can't progress rn unless I over level or buy busses

[pallid panther]

Are u 4x3 ?

[zenith ginkgo]

1:45 am na west

[maiden locust]

I suggest joining a good group or guild

[zenith ginkgo]

5x3

level 7

gems

[pallid panther]

What rooster level you are ?

[maiden locust]

I got carried and taught through clown at ilvl

[zenith ginkgo]

90

[pallid panther]

So people are gatekeeping you because your rooster. But often 90 rooster players play better than 100+

I dont usually take less from 150+ if i dont know the person

But if its 5x3 and good gems why not

Lost ark community isnt that well

[maiden locust]

Runs with guild or people you know make the raids much more quick

[zenith ginkgo]

I still get gatekept from valtan hard LMAO as perfect build 1460 db

[maiden locust]

Bc they are nice and want to carry you

[pallid panther]

People get mad about

"He is on cap"

"Low rooster"

"Shitty class"

As i said, toxic community

[brave rapids]

@pallid panther I will say, it definitely feels like some of the things in LOA were designed to be played with better ping and better players in mind. Reaper and other entropy styles would make more sense if I was playing on 6 ping lol. One thing that's happening is that Entropy synergy keeps getting nerfed and Hitmaster classes get buffed, even though it feels like you should get rewarded for chasing ass instead of just being able to position from anywhere. In Korea, chasing ass on 6 ping is so easy, that Entropy is considered overly broken, and Hitmaster needs buffs to catch up

[pallid panther]

Thats my rooster right now

Im putting slayer up for someone else

[brave rapids]

The game is designed in a way to promote toxic gatekeeping btw @maiden locust

[pallid panther]

When it comes in

[maiden locust]

I haven't really felt that gate kept outside of clown at ilvl

Always random find groups

May get jailed but still fun

[pallid panther]

At clown +

If you dont have the tittle or level 2 set to say you're already done a few u get gatekept

It dont get better

[maiden locust]

Still runs with people more fun so would find if you can

[vagrant veldt]

make ur own group then

[zenith ginkgo]

how do I level roster if I can't progress and have alts also stuck there LOL

[pallid panther]

Unfortunately best way to not deal with those people is to make a party or join into a guild.

[pallid panther]

Doing collectibles or creating more chars

Ignea tokens + tower = lot of rooster level

[brave rapids]

horizontal content

[zenith ginkgo]

fuck

I've been avoiding that

[brave rapids]

Roster 237

[maiden locust]

I'm roster level 54 and feeling good

[pallid panther]

Im 233

[brave rapids]

Tbf to low roster levels, its tough getting roster levels when you start out nowadays, and the game pushes you to like 1445+ for free.

rosters higher than 150+ just indicate they've been playing for a longer time

its possible they're completely dogshit at the raid still

[maiden locust]

I wish would push me to 1490

[brave rapids]

Probably will this summer

[sick current]

where can I find the event exchange shop?

[brave rapids]

any main city

[maiden locust]

Really? 1490 is everything minus brel hard

I thought people were pushing for 1460

I will take it though

[brave rapids]

if they intend to increase class-release cadence like they said in the Letter to the Community, we'll probably receive Aeromancer and Slayer within the summer. It's possible we'll get the 1490 Hyper Express, or maybe the 1460.

[maiden locust]

Means my current main at 1480 will become my alt

Hope 1490

Would be nice to have all raids available

[pallid panther]

I think prob 60 with aero and 90 w slayer

[brave rapids]

We just got the 1445 Hyper Express, and it was mostly believed we'd have to get the 1460 first before the 1490, but if they increase class-release cadence, we might get both or just straight to 1490

[brave rapids]

thats the thing: i don't think they'd drop 2 Hyper Expresses within the span of like 3 months. These things are usually like 4 months apart

I guess we'll see next week, they'll be releasing the roadmap

[radiant flame]

whats the point of speculating. we will know in less than a week

[maiden locust]

They did 2 class in 1 express before apparently

[pallid panther]

Maybe 2 class on a roadmap and 1 express ?

Possible.

[brave rapids]

buzzkill

[pallid panther]

But i still think it will be 4 months with punika pass + hyper 1460

then slayer 4 months later

[maiden locust]

Can't wait for road map

[brave rapids]

i think this is what will most likely happen

[pallid panther]

Dont think slayer is comming soon but will be happy if is

[maiden locust]

They should go 2 2

Heard everyone would go Slayer if 2 1

[brave rapids]

probably

its the newest toy

[pallid panther]

And they want money

Not wise to release two

[brave rapids]

and people already know we're getting the absolutely nerfed Aeromancer

[pallid panther]

Release one let ppl spend

release another one

[maiden locust]

I want to make both though

Aero seems fun

[pallid panther]

I will create both but if they give one express slayer 100%

[brave rapids]

the Community Letter pretty much says they'll increase class release cadence, since there's no real restriction on that. they have to slowly release content in a way that makes sense (like you wouldn't release Akkan tomorrow cuz we just got brel HM)

so I'm banking on back to back class releases for Aero+Slayer

and huge copium if they also give us Soul Eater at the same time as Korea

doubt it, but a boy can dream

[maiden locust]

Soul eater sounds great

[zenith ginkgo]

I'm literally gonna delete one of my sorc alts for slayer

[pallid panther]

I mean.. they said class release cadence

but..

[zenith ginkgo]

and make it my main

[pallid panther]

there are only two classes to be released

so.. how ?

[brave rapids]

we know nothing about her, but she's a Scythe-wielding Assassin big coomer bait

[pallid panther]

Maybe they are planning it for next classes

beside what they have on kr

because they have to keep our region engaged

[maiden locust]

Yeah I like the idea the most between it slayer aero

Would main

[brave rapids]

This is where my Soul Eater copium comes from. There's only 2 classes left to release. So what's the point in mentioning Class-Release Cadence? Unless they plan on releasing classes at the same time as Korea for the future.

[pallid panther]

Yeah.. that could be an option

[brave rapids]

So we'd get Soul Eater at the same time as Korea, and the new male fighter in Winter

[zenith ginkgo]

didn't they say they were planning to speed up all regions to catch up to kr

[maiden locust]

Idk I read na will always be behind kr

On purpose

[brave rapids]

dont think i read that in the community letter, unless they mentioned it elsewhere? but basically the Community Letter was from AGS, so they don't have control over RU, JP, and the future CN servers

[maiden locust]

Maybe not as far behind as it currently is but 1 or 2 months

[pallid panther]

Unfortunatelly i dont have more knowledge transfers to north vern

[brave rapids]

we'll probably get the infinite Knoweldge Transfers in May

[radiant flame]

roxx said this in her interview to stoopz a few months ago

[brave rapids]

its a QoL buff Korea got

[pallid panther]

Oh.. thats nice

I had to bough a north vern pass the last alt i made

[radiant flame]

anyway, a lot of this is becoming just speculative, and more for #lost-ark-discussions

[pallid panther]

Because i had tons of rohendel

And 0 of vern

[brave rapids]

they're infinite and only take 10 seconds instead of 8 hours

[pallid panther]

And if we do get that ill delete an alt

to create another class

[warm anvil]

whats the best way to gather oreha material?

[brave rapids]

Fishing or Excavating

[maiden locust]

To buy or make it in stronghold

[brave rapids]

Fishing is fairly easy, newbie-friendly. Excavating is slightly better if you can master the minigame.

[maiden locust]

I fish currently

[brave rapids]

[maiden locust]

Stronghold farm is nice too

[warm anvil]

you can get oreha from stronghold farm?

im just doing secret forest and didnt get a single oreha

[brave rapids]

yeah, the only difference is those are bound

[radiant flame]

yes, but it's far less efficient

and bound

[brave rapids]

^

[maiden locust]

Materials to make it with stronghold exclusive farm

[pallid panther]

I mean.. game is getting better at least in some ways

[maiden locust]

Is good for those lazy days

[pallid panther]

They are making easy for alts and harder for mains

[warm anvil]

wheres a good place to level fishing?

[brave rapids]

oh you mean like the Blue mats? if you want a quick fix of those, you should fish. Excavating takes a bit longer to get the Blue mats, but its more in the long run (if you master the minigame ).

[radiant flame]

anywhere

that is t3 i guess

[maiden locust]

Anywhere I farm in punika ridge or something

[radiant flame]

literally no difference between any fishing spots because it is stationary and non competitive

only thing matters is tier which determines what rare mats you get

[maiden locust]

I fish with all the bots

[brave rapids]

I just fish on at Tideshelf Path

location doesnt change anything except Tier material

just fish somewhere Tier 3 (Punika and beyond)

[warm anvil]

i was told its most efficient to use the same class alts...why is that?

[brave rapids]

its gold-efficient but boring (who wants to play 6 of the same class??)

and its cuz of gems and class books

you can share gems + class books across your roster

so if you bought books and gems for your class, you can just use them across all your alts if they're the same class, not having to buy them again

whereas if you had multiple classes, you'd obviously have to buy different gems and books for each of them

[warm anvil]

i can see why fishing is nice...every time you get a gold one you get oreha...ill have to use leap essence here

[brave rapids]

yeah leap essence is efficient on fishing

dont bother using it on excavation

its pretty RNG on excavation

[pallid panther]

Lost ark being rng is funny

[warm anvil]

is crafting archaeological site maps a good idea?

[brave rapids]

its a gamble

the main idea is you pray you hit a Relic/Legendary Craft Kit

but if you dont hit either, you basically just wasted all your mats crafting useless maps

you'll come to find a lot of things in Lost Ark is a gamble

[warm anvil]

how much better are relic/legendary craft kits over purple?

[brave rapids]

They're better, but they're kind of a pain to maintain. If market prices for trade materials are bad, you might spend more on repairing your Relic/Legendary tool as opposed to actually profiting from it.

The durability can only be repaired with Trade Skill Tool Restoration Kits, and those are only sold in the Mari's Secret Shop when you press F4, using Blue Crystal. So I guess it also depends on your Blue Crystal prices lol

[warm anvil]

what makes them better? i thought the whole point would be that they dont lose dura

[brave rapids]

They lose less dura over time compared to purple, but they still lose dura regardless. So they'll last longer, but when it does need repairing, you're gonna have to cough up a pretty penny

If you want to be efficient about your trade tools, just craft multiple tools and keep ones you need for each scenario.

Most likely you'll only ever need like 8 tools

For Foraging, Logging, Mining, and Hunting tools, you just want Special Material Acquisition perk and probably Gain Super Armor. Anything else after that is just a bonus, maybe you get Gathering Speed+ or Durability Nonreduction

[warm anvil]

Like 9 total at a higher rarity?

I mean is it worth using anything other than purple? Seems lame

[brave rapids]

Probably not

For Fishing and Excavation, you want 2 tools each. One just like the previous tools I mentioned (Special Material + Super Armor) and then another tool for Minigame Difficulty- and Minigame Rewards+

[warm anvil]

Disappointing. I thought the best tools would never break

[brave rapids]

I mean, they take LONGER to break, but they still break over time

One relic tool probably takes 3 or 4 times as long to break as a purple

these are the tools I use

pretty much all the tools just have the Special Material Acquisition perk + Super Armor, and then the last 2 tools are mini-game tools

[pallid panther]

I dropped a leg kit on excavation and i used to make a leg shovel, not worth to buy it, but if you drop u can try the rng

[brave rapids]

either gamble on a tool that'll cost more to repair than it'll bring in profits

or just sell it for like 8k or whatever on the market

[pallid panther]

I got lucky on my 1st to get that reduced durability thing + super armor + mini

But when i tried to make on my other account i wasted 3 for nothing so understandable

[brave rapids]

even if you do craft a relic tool, it could have shitty perks. i think there's 8 perks you can get, and a relic tool can only get 5 perks

if i spent 40k on a tool and it DIDNT get the perk i wanted, i'd lose it

[pallid panther]

Its another shitty rng

Like the level 10 dmg / cd gem

[quick ice]

im empress arcana, which one is better 😄

[brave rapids]

Gambling Game has Gambling Mechanic

[echo owl]

left

[pallid panther]

Game looks like a cassino

[devout granite]

how many relic mats do you get from buying extra reward from vykas again?

[pallid panther]

U mean to craft the set ?

[devout granite]

ye

[pallid panther]

12 / 24 if you buy all 3

So basically 4 / 8 (W/ Chest) per gate

And u can bid the box on the end for more 5

On vykas hard.

[devout granite]

what do u mean by 12/24?

yeah vykas hard

[brave rapids]

12 if you dont buy boxes

24 if you do

[devout granite]

ahhhh okok

[pallid panther]

Precisely

[devout granite]

[brave rapids]

also it gets dropped down to 6/12 when you've cleared vykas 5 times

after 5 weeks of clears

[pallid panther]

It gets dropped ? didnt knew, but you get all the gear conversion pieces on those 5 clears anyway

[brave rapids]

Yeah, the double rewards thing is just a part of Arcturus's Touch. You can see it if you have this icon next to Expected Rewards on the raid screen

[pallid panther]

Assuming that even on vykas normal for those who havent cleared 5x12 = 60 enough to full set + gear conversion

[brave rapids]

yeah you only need 2 weeks + buying 2 auction boxes to get gear conversion

or the third week if you dont manage to bid the box

[craggy obsidian]

someone help me with the damn addiction

[balmy plank]

Start a drug addiction to avoid video game addiction. Healthy

Cant swipe for LOA if your broke swiping for crack

[remote briar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1001767876312707145/1099643100386836491/image.png
Do I need Gador in my own Stronghold or can I get this sailor from someone else's?

[craggy obsidian]

Man I want to play this game but I end up without a life

[balmy plank]

You can buy him from any stronghold (assuming they have the vendor selling him)

[pallid panther]

When you install the game there is a part on terms and conditions where you give you 50% of your life in order to play the game. Didnt u read ?

[forest bear]

When is it worth buying Accessoires for gold?

[balmy plank]

1415+ when you have access to relic. Relic stuff is good for a very long time. at 1540 you could transition to Ancient but even then you can stick with relic for awhile

If youre gonna be lower ilvl/ in legendary gear for awile you could probably pick up a couple pieces just to have some sort of build but its best to view that investment as a loss as youll replace it quickly

[forest bear]

I am at 1390 with 2 chars atm

Sold some RC

But i can use it in 3 days

Like wtf

[balmy plank]

You're pretty close so you could wait. If you have gold and want to invest in your character, you could buy legendary engraving books

Those last forever and make gearing up easier

[forest bear]

Yeah since i use thus express engravings thing i cant use others

Can i even have 5 max engravings <1400

[craggy obsidian]

I'm shaking

https://tenor.com/view/free-smiley-faces-de-emoji-wink-scared-terrified-gif-16168295

[sick current]

do the event gems dissapear?

[stuck meadow]

Why does the game have so many bots?? like what causes/enables/encourages this many?

[silk shard]

welcome to mmo's in general

the encouragement is making money

[boreal sentinel]

game being f2p doesnt help it

[stuck meadow]

I've played other mmos and im sure they have bots and maybe lots of it, but it def isnt this obvious
and making money how, like irl or in game

[radiant flame]

fundamentally, it's also because there are people who will rmt

[boreal sentinel]

irl money

[radiant flame]

bot farms dont make money by having bots

theynonly make money because people will buy ingame currency from them

[hazy nova]

if i story express a character

then knowledge transfer

what happens to the event?

like just vern knowledge?

[radiant flame]

it bricks it

[hybrid marsh]

In other games they can usually use illicit methods to not be seen by most players, in this game they're automated on routes

[radiant flame]

you dont get final rewards

you dont get rewards up to vern

basically, don't do it

[hazy nova]

oh so i really have to do the quests

do i just do main quests?

[stuck meadow]

yeah you can def tell lol

[radiant flame]

if you want the final rewards

yes

[hazy nova]

alright

[radiant flame]

just follow it]

[hazy nova]

no noteworth sidequests to get?

[radiant flame]

no

[hazy nova]

well i do know the 20 green books at the luterra thing

thanks brotha

[radiant flame]

you get books through express

[hazy nova]

oh yeah

thanks

[silk shard]

In most other mmo's bots hide in instances most of the time

[hazy nova]

yeah true

i remember seeing a trail of bots sneaking into a dungeon in wow

[craggy obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-money-gif-25191018

[stuck meadow]

makes sense

[forest bear]

Quick question, how are the bots manipulate the market atm?

[stuck meadow]

and im assuming banning isnt doing anything
why

[craggy obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/bacteria-biology-microbiology-growth-gif-13649260

[craggy obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/inflation-gif-25915736

[forest bear]

Oh still?

Even tho they write good in this update future letter thing

[craggy obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/10-gif-25608850

[neat lantern]

I reached 42 level after i finished annikas main story. Do you think toytoyk story will be enough to reach me 50 soi can skip arthetine and go immediately to north vern?

[radiant flame]

you cant skip continents

[craggy obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-you-can-shia-la-beouf-you-can-do-it-gif-15336723

[neat lantern]

Mhm

[radiant flame]

they changed it

in the last update

you cannot

idk who the fuck this guy is

[craggy obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/nevermind-gif-20104994

[neat lantern]

So if i try to go to north vern as 50 lvl it will say i need to complete arthetine first?

[radiant flame]

correct

if you are new are you not on story express anyway

[sick current]

when can I get a bracelet?

[radiant flame]

1490

[neat lantern]

After what ilvl do we use super fusion oreha to hone?

[radiant flame]

what do you mean super

[neat lantern]

Not basic oreha

The greater

[radiant flame]

1490, brel gear

[neat lantern]

Until what?

1600?

[radiant flame]

akkan

1580

[neat lantern]

And when will akkan release?

[radiant flame]

i have no idea

[craggy obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-idk-i-dont-know-who-knows-gif-17348455

[neat lantern]

Do you think they will redude the gold from valtan and vykas even more before akkan release?

[radiant flame]

might be in the roadmap coming out next week

i have no idea

maybe if they make honing gold free until 1490

[brisk bridge]

Someone remind me does cube give card xp?

[radiant flame]

yes

[brisk bridge]

Similar to boss rush or less

[radiant flame]

i think less than the hard t3

[gleaming token]

is there a way to see how populated each server is

i tried to google and looked at a few sources but couldn't find

[radiant flame]

no

it doesn't matter that much

[gleaming token]

yeah was just mainly out of curiosity

[light loom]

i think i just lost a guide question i abonded the Guide: Raid quest series and i can't find it anymore

[jagged pond]

what are the timers for slime/medeia island and are they roster wide cd weeklies?

ok lemme rephrase, read that slime/medeia is dependent on server's guilds, does it get traked on the alarms at top left?

also are they roster wide cd weeklies?

[radiant flame]

yes roster, and yes it should be tracked on the alarms

[jagged pond]

[outer mason]

12:30pm / 4:30pm / 6:30pm / 7:30pm / 10:30pm / 11:30pm

[calm blade]

Does anyone here play Wardancer?

[honest grail]

Hi, im building my first Relic set for my swiftness Artist. How much does the quality matter?
Should it be a min. of above 50 ?

[jagged pond]

so basically the guild would choose from one of these timing?

[shy chasm]

Ye

[outer mason]

the guilds choose the day, you choose the time

[shy chasm]

It only starts to matter once you hit relic

[jagged pond]

oh shit

welp rip i missed it then

ty for the ans

[low totem]

what ngravings arent consider grief to go into valtan at fresh 1415

is this bad to remotely try valtan

[radiant flame]

why dont you have the engraving support from hyper express

[low totem]

i was going to switch my main char to war dancer os im using it on her

i cba w destroyer rn anymore

[radiant flame]

i mean, i personally think it is grief

[low totem]

yeah i was going to go for 4x3

[radiant flame]

KBW1 is literally a damage loss

[low totem]

but i get terrible rng on drops

[radiant flame]

buy

items

you never drop

what are your stats i wonder lol

[low totem]

0 gold and cant queue on alts since q times are over 800 minute long

i have 6 tier 3 alts and cant get a single q

[radiant flame]

build them properly

i bet you have scuffed stats

[low totem]

no one queues normal oreha

that is why

[radiant flame]

why what

[low totem]

no one queus normal oreha

[radiant flame]

?

yes its completely pointless content

[low totem]

abyssal

yea

[radiant flame]

show me your stats

[low totem]

on my main

one sec

[radiant flame]

no on your destroyer

[low totem]

ye thats what im getting

1s

my stone is shit

[radiant flame]

ok that looks not too troll

anyway noone queues for anything in this game

use party finder

[low totem]

will do

thank you

[radiant flame]

build your stuff properly

focus on a main

[low totem]

its not oto bad since i did gravity training from release

i am going to focus on esoteric wardancer

[radiant flame]

stop making alts when you dont have the economy to sustain them

cool

[low totem]

i got 6 free punika passes

only reason i made them

when i take a break and come back i get free passes

idk if thats intended or not

[radiant flame]

you dont have to use them

[low totem]

true

[coarse whale]

Anyone know of an up-to-date server breakdown for EUC? Looking for a server to start on there

[radiant flame]

doesnt exist

thirain, zinnervale, kadan biggest historically

[coarse whale]

all english main I guess? I remember there being like servers that were mainly french, german, etc. when i last played on euc

[radiant flame]

mostly english for all servers tbh

[coarse whale]

sweet ty

[light zealot]

Does t3 tower work the same as the others where alts get more honing mats on the 2nd time clear through than the first completion rewards?

[radiant flame]

yes

think theres a reward list in #info-dump ?

[outer mason]

yes
https://lostark.fandom.com/wiki/Tower#T3_-_Fortunespire

[native kindle]

did legendary map and got rewards for solo map? (was 4 players), any idea what this could be caused by?

[maiden locust]

I started doing kungelaum guardian raid and each time i go in my party member says like "1" or "2", what do they mean by this?

[crimson cobalt]

first and second use of phero

then there is c for corrosion bomb and other guy uses flare

[maiden locust]

ohhhh, i totally had no idea that was a procedure to do

[minor briar]

wats up?

[minor briar]

they didnt activate the ticket entry thing?

its not on by default

[crimson cobalt]

can someone explain to me how many times i can do raids on my acc? i just tried to go into g3 on vykas and it said after clearing i cant do clown? i read that you can do 12 raids but i dont quite understand it.

[lilac timber]

hey guys ^.^

okay thanks

[minor briar]

12 raids? huh

u can do max 3 legions raids per week on a char

[lilac timber]

i will defiantly look into it right now

[minor briar]

if u have 24 chars, thats 72 legion raids

[crimson cobalt]

i did do argos, valtan, vykas on 3 alts so in total 9 raids. then valtan and vykas on other alt +2 is 11. valtan on main 12. but i still could do vykas which would exceed the number

hmm

[minor briar]

argos doesnt count as a legion raid

[crimson cobalt]

ok. idk i was confused

[minor briar]

ye, idk where u heard that 12 raids thing

not true at all

[crimson cobalt]

when the accepting window popped it said after clearing i cant do clown and brel /cant do brel anyways) but still.

[crimson cobalt]

it is on the legion raid banner

[minor briar]

thats the 3 legion per week per char

[crimson cobalt]

ah nvm sry

[minor briar]

valtan vykas clown brel, can only do 3 of them

sometimes it says it when u reenter a gate tho

[crimson cobalt]

well i did only do valtan and was about to do vykas 3

[minor briar]

which is weird but it can be ignored

[crimson cobalt]

ok. was worried even though i hardly get to finish clown 3 bc i dont get into groups lmao gold is gold

[minor briar]

it counts as a entry once u finish the whole raid

[paper rose]

Consult your Physician prior to playing Lost Ark

[minor briar]

so even if ur g2 valtan jailed, g2 vykas and g2 clown jailed, it'll still say 3 raids available

[crimson cobalt]

ok thx

[paper rose]

Wtf glitch just happened and i receive Login rewards 2 times

but not same

rewards

[shy chasm]

There are 3 days you get 1 extra bonus login reward

On 10th 20th and 30th iirc

[paper rose]

thanks

but its not 20th or 30th or 10th

its 23

[shy chasm]

[minor briar]

day logged in, not the date

[lilac timber]

is there's anyway to know when the marchents are here to get better card set ?

Merchants*

[steady turtle]

hey, anyone with tuleu selling blue wealth?

[minor briar]

lostmerchants.com

[minor briar]

ask in ur region chat channel

[tiny oriole]

anyone know of an updated brel hard cheat sheet for 1-6

[old peak]

I'm level 23 stronghold and apparently I've run out of research besides the smaller 17 minute ones for like potions and such. Like usual I'm guessing I will unlock more if I level up again?

[radiant flame]

yes

[old peak]

Huh, first time i've been at a stand still with the stronghold lol

[ancient walrus]

o/ I crafted the wrong set, do I lose the quality if I transfer it to the good relic set bow?

[radiant flame]

er, i would just wait until you get set switching

or you can just transfer to the correct brel weapon

[ancient walrus]

oof alright ty for the answer

Gotta wait 2 weeks

xd

[heady zealot]

is it normal now that people accept u in parties and then kick you/replace you?

[radiant flame]

yes didn't you see a PSA about this /s

[heady zealot]

happened to me twice today on my sorc - but for valtan and vykas of all things

[radiant flame]

i mean, poeple will be people

[heady zealot]

has never happened to me before

[radiant flame]

well, i guess unlucky

i mean people can behave how they want

that's always been the case

[old peak]

Y'all think it would be wise to sell my great honors off right now or hold for a possible increase in price?

[radiant flame]

i mean...

it's been said before about crystal balls and whatnot

ultimately if you need the gold, you need the gold

[astral root]

My idea is to hold for aero release

[old peak]

I forgot about that

Is there any word on when aero is coming out or is it all still heresay?

[radiant flame]

any future increases in price will also mean stuff in general will also increase in price

your leaps now basically do nothing if you're not using/selling them

[astral root]

speculation has it after this express ends

[radiant flame]

while you can possibly use your gold to hone or gear

i'm not telling you to sell

but to focus purely on the quantum of gold is not correct

[old peak]

I know, I was just seeking opinion on the chance of another price increase. Went ahead and listed em'

[paper rose]

Where is farm for excavating ancient relics?

ancient oreha relic

[low totem]

how scuffed is this for valtan

or do i hone it to +17

[astral root]

hone it to +17, most ppl are running hards by this point

[low totem]

sounds good

would i even be considered into a party

[limpid moth]

this guy here had mvp 11 months ago in valtan normal gate 1

[low totem]

so i should be set htne

thank you

im going for +17 to try hard

[astral root]

you'll probably be gatekept to shit but who knows

some people sometimes take pity on others

watch a vid before tho

[shy chasm]

Doesn't matter till 1415

[low totem]

i will

i got pitied on argos and they brought me to tier 3

or thye just needed 8 people

[astral root]

argos gatekeeping has kinda come full circle

now most people are so fucking juiced they don't care anymore

and just need warm bodies

[low totem]

thats good

when i was playing a few months ago it was bad

[astral root]

but every once in a while you get some ppl who make it hard line 1460+ or higher

[low totem]

idkw ppl do that

everyone was new atone point

[astral root]

if you run 12 raids a week

and each attempt of a fight takes 10 minutes

wouldn't you want to ensure it only takes one shot?

[low totem]

i mean i have all the time in the world im still in hs

[astral root]

that's just you tho

[low totem]

i know thats why id take them anwyays

[astral root]

also you can always make your own pt

[low totem]

that is true

i usually matchmake

[astral root]

no one says you have ot gatekeep lmao

[low totem]

yep

[astral root]

use party finder for valtan and higher

[olive fog]

in gate 4 brel normal on first star transform at how many stacks should you use inanna

no not at all

[astral root]

nope

[maiden locust]

thank you folks

[forest bear]

With 1415 Relic accessoires i can only get 4 max engravings?

[olive fog]

5x3 is possible even 5x3+1 if you have 97 stone

[forest bear]

i build this

[shy chasm]

Do you have leg books

[forest bear]

nope need see price

[shy chasm]

You need at least 1 depending on rock

[ancient flint]

any excavators know if for mini game tool basic reward aquisition also works? or is the only important stat minigame reward acqusition probability?

[honest grail]

Would it be beneficial to increase the distr. rate in the guild? Its only me and my close friends playing casually.
Or would i run out of bloodstones needed for something else that im not thinking of? xD

[craggy tusk]

Is there someone who can give me a link to the mokoko learning discord?

[shy hazel]

im kinda stuck here idk waht to do do i just wait for event and then i can do quest or what there is literly no other quest i can do

first quest

[olive fog]

i dmed u it

[craggy tusk]

Thank you!

[shy hazel]

can i do thes solo ?

[outer mason]

Yeah, you need the Forest's Minuet song, you can solo it but it takes a while

[shy hazel]

but i dont have that song

im going to get it after i do thes quest

[polar zenith]

does anyone know the sailing co-op required for the astray una?

[outer mason]

https://youtu.be/objWVqdE548

[outer mason]

There are 2 Una's:

• Astray Construction Blueprint (Una x25 days "She Drifts, Sea Gifts")
• Certificate of Pirate (Una x15 days "Pest Control")

[outer mason]

Okay my bad the event requires the Song of Resonance

[polar zenith]

yes the first one, the second one doesnt require a sailing co-op

[shy hazel]

i dont ahve that nether

[polar zenith]

I just can rmbr if its feiton or yorn

[outer mason]

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=lost+ark+how+to+get+song+of+resonance

[shy hazel]

thx

[heady kestrel]

i reached level 50 should i continue doing mission world quest or go do other stuff like upgrading gear

[paper rose]

Reminiscence

[outer mason]

She Drifts, Sea Gifts -> Yorn and Arthetine Sailing Co-ops

[polar zenith]

ahh tyty

I ran out of instant completes 😢

[timber mauve]

Just keep doing the main story.

[digital escarp]

are these a guranteed drop after beating g6 brel? or is it RNG

[heady kestrel]

ok thx

[timber mauve]

Guaranteed

[odd pond]

Best way to get more Simple Oreha Fusion Mats?

[outer mason]

keep doing the main story questline yep
once you've finished North Vern, you'll be at 250 item level more or less, at that point you can start doing chaos dungeon to get Tier 1 gear

[timber mauve]

Either buy off the market or craft in stronghold.

[odd pond]

Crafting in Stronghold, is it easy to do?

Obviously buying off market would be easier but

[shy chasm]

No its more expensive buying outright

Buy the mats and crafting is cheaper than just buying the thing really

[outer mason]

You need to have the right stronghold level and corresponding research to craft these
https://www.invenglobal.com/lostark/item/6861007/simple-oreha-fusion-material

[odd pond]

Can I just fish for the mats or is that not as viable?

[shy chasm]

Ye saves you more gold

[odd pond]

I have 2/3 of the recipes for the material crafting, but I don't have the one you listed

The one that seems like Fishing grind might work for, it's 9 Oreha Solar Carp, 36 Natural Pearls, 72 Fish

And this recipe creates 30 of the Simple Oreha Fusion Mat.

I wonder, if these 3 components for crafting the material are easy to get, maybe it's worth to just grind for these and then I won't spend any gold on the Simple Oreha Fusion Mats.

[outer mason]

Oreha Solar Carp, Natural Pearls, Fish <- you can get all of these just by fishing (all from the same spot) in any tier 3 zone (punika or south vern)

[odd pond]

Oh, that seems quite easy.

[leaden imp]

for some reasons.. i tried to search lvl 10 gems in NAW market.. and always end up showing 0 listing.. no one sells level 10 gems in NAW?

[odd pond]

Maybe the drop rates are low for Solar Carps, however I don't mind investing time if it means I will have free materials.

[icy glade]

The higher the fishing level, the higher tier your fishing line is, the more you get.
But any purple at even low level is alright.
It only gets better and better as you move on.

[odd pond]

I'm very hyped for the final Ark questline to release in the west, but I fear that it's going to be long before that comes around.

[icy glade]

Solar carps aren't even the limiting thing~
For me, it is generally pearls.

Though, not anymore :3

[outer mason]

Keep in mind there's still a crafting cost, you can't get those fusion mats for free 100%

[timber mauve]

Prolly within the next 4 months.

We’ll find out more this Wednesday.

[odd pond]

LETS GO

that's huge

[timber mauve]

But that’s only the start.

[odd pond]

I can't wait to see what happens when we restore all 7 arks in trixion

I have a feeling that we're secretly funneling all of the power of the arks into the wrong hands

there's a greater evil at hand!

[timber mauve]

The devs said that with the finding of the 7th ark, the planned story is 15% complete.

[odd pond]

wtf.

[timber mauve]

That marks the end of the prologue.

[odd pond]

I mean it takes roughly 40-50 hours playtime to collect 6/7 of the Arks.

if that's 15% of the STORY... wew

imagine all of the non-story content to be added

[timber mauve]

Keep in mind, lost ark in kr has been out for just over 4 years.

So it’s taken them this long to make it to this point.

[odd pond]

Its going to take 20 years

literally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_KEntGlGJw&ab_channel=BrotherChris

I just want to know where this was even seen, I haven't seen anything like this in my time playing the game.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fuAgAB1KH6I
Like was the bot problem actually this bad? I've never come across anything that even remotely resembles this. I have seen a couple Sorceress' that had bot-like names, but they might've very well been actual players and they never traveled in packs like these clips show.

[outer mason]

2 days ago, North Vern

[odd pond]

Berserker is just a popular class

lots of new players

[outer mason]

yes

hh

[odd pond]

That's wild

Maybe I'm just bot-blind

But I don't see other players in the world very often at all, it's been a very isolating experience going through the story line

[outer mason]

Maybe NA east doesn't have that many bots

[craggy tusk]

Depends what server

Bots tend to want to be on the servers with people who like buying RMT gold.

[odd pond]

So Europe?

idk all the servers, wonder if KR has bot problems

[craggy tusk]

KR has a far smaller bot problem, due to how their account registration system works. And not just Europe, every region has people who do not care at all about game health and will happily buy their way to the top without ever learning how to actually play the game.

[radiant flame]

There are bots in every MMO

[low totem]

broo my pc just crashed and now my valtan raid i cant enter again

[odd pond]

the bot problem in WoW is nuts lol

those mf's are just quadra jumping and flying all over the place

[radiant flame]

Fundamentally it’s because people are willing to buy gold through RMT

[odd pond]

so if the game admins can ban all RMT'ers then the bots will slowly go away

I wonder actually if they would stay as a means of just screwing with the game itself

[radiant flame]

Zeals’ recent video actually explained how he thought KR was worse at actually dealing with bots because they don’t deal with RMT that well

[radiant flame]

Why. They still have an overhead. Bots are only there to make money for themselves

[odd pond]

Some people will do things that don't make sense

[radiant flame]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[odd pond]

so if they want to run bots and inflate/deflate the economy just for the fun of it, they probably will

[craggy tusk]

They can never ban all the RMTers because some people who RMT have such little self-control and understanding of basic functioning that they will just buy a new account and RMT again.

Bots are in every MMO, but their impact is different. Bots in Lost Ark impact every single player and fundamentally change the economy. Bots in WoW are just annoying and may change a couple items here and there or make PvP battlegrounds annoying.

[odd pond]

I mean surely there is a way to detect bot-like gameplay and auto ban this

[craggy tusk]

It's not that simple.

[odd pond]

auto ban is always dangerous of course but instead of focusing efforts into a team that bans bots, shift them to ban appeals

For example, all/a lot of the bots that are seen in those clips are probably created at the same time, if the game servers recognize 40 berserkers with the same exact appearances being created in the same minute, maybe all of those get banned

[radiant flame]

I think you know yourself that is oversimplistic

[warm anvil]

what are considered some good alts? i have a zerker main, a bard, gunlancer, deadeye alts. was thinking about making a paladin, scrapper, and deleting the deadeye to make something else since i hear they kinda suck

maybe a sharpshooter?

[craggy tusk]

Sure, and then one actual person who made their character at that time also gets banned. It's not simple. The fastest way to fix bots is for people to stop buying their gold, and that will never happen.

[odd pond]

It's 1 out of 1000 things they could do to aid the efforts against bots

It's fine to ban 1 player and allow them to appeal in situations like that, imo

[craggy tusk]

That's your choice. AGS disagrees.

[odd pond]

Even then, the amount of times where that situation happens would be inexplicably rare

[forest bear]

Can i stay on Chosen set till 1445 ?

[odd pond]

the same appearance data as the other 39 bots created within the same minute of the day on the same region and server, that's a bit crazy

the probability of that happening must be somewhere in the .0000000001%

[radiant flame]

idk what your point is, but this is beyond the scope of this channel

[craggy tusk]

We can all throw out random numbers.

[radiant flame]

^

[radiant flame]

you can stay on chosen set until 1490

[odd pond]

The point is that the chance of that happening would be almost nonexistant, and in the case that it does happen it would be dealt with through appeals

[radiant flame]

whatever you enjoy playing

[forest bear]

oh ok

[craggy tusk]

Head to #lost-ark-discussions

[warm anvil]

well i dont know if i enjoy playing them yet. im just wondering if theyre good, easy to play, not gatekept if i like them, etc

lately i notice people want DPS more than support so idk how useful paladin would be

[radiant flame]

everything gets gatekept

you can't avoid it

yes recently there has been a lot of people making artists but a support will always be eaiser to gear up for endgame content compared to a dps

so a support like a paladin will always be a much easier alt to run

compared to any dps class

[astral root]

Also this is just me but I think people will abandon their artists when aero comes out

[radiant flame]

if you dont know what class you'll enjoy playing i suggest looking at videos/guides/anything else

we all have different subjective tastes

but there isn't a single class which is a "bad" alt

nor is there any class that will never get gatekept

[warm anvil]

well whats the community sentiment towards deadeye?

[astral root]

Get a static to avoid being gatekepr

[radiant flame]

that its hard to play

[warm anvil]

iwas going pistoleer but the guide says that its not really meta

[radiant flame]

but does decent damage in the right hands

pistoleer is generally regarded as weaker yes

[warm anvil]

i was probably gonna replace him with a sharpshooter

[radiant flame]

i dont think pistoleer has much going for it as a playstyle, imo

[astral root]

Imagine losing shotgun

[radiant flame]

you remove one of the core components of the class (weapon swap) in exchange for a mediocre buff to pistol

[warm anvil]

tbh i thought i picked gunslinger, it was an accident to pick deadeye and i think its ok but its just an alt

[radiant flame]

and you get spec but it only gives you crit damage which is the most inefficient form of damage buff in the game

anyway, that's more or less why the maths dont work out for pistoleer

but it did recently get a buff and its completely fine in the right hands

i think you just need to find something you enjoy playing, and not care about the meta

because by definition it always changes

every class engraving has a viable build

[warm anvil]

oh i dont care about the meta, i just dont wanna play something difficult because its gonna be an alt unless i really like it

like i kinda like GL

[radiant flame]

sharpshooter is fine, lc quite strong and easier to play i think

[warm anvil]

how important is it to find an active guild for my main? if not for my alts too?

currently i joined an insta join one where i just donate silver

[craggy tusk]

It's... very important.

[haughty hound]

2k for it, seems fair?

[warm anvil]

well im a returning player so what am i missing out on?

[nimble marlin]

Anyone know if i lose honing progress when transferring from relic brel to ancient brel?

[minor briar]

no, no ones gonna buy it

[craggy tusk]

As people are telling you, it will be much easier to do content and not get gatekept.

[minor briar]

also u should favorite engravings

[haughty hound]

hm i ask?

[minor briar]

?

[minor briar]

u shouldnt

[haughty hound]

for how much gold do i post?

[minor briar]

^

[haughty hound]

i mean, does it worth something?

[radiant flame]

no

its worth nothing

you ahve support engravings but crit as a stat

[haughty hound]

i need to learn how a good item seems like

[radiant flame]

then learn what engraving classes use

[minor briar]

u learn wat classes run wat stats and engravings

[radiant flame]

and what stats they use

[haughty hound]

i tough crit % wold be good for dps's

[minor briar]

there was a site for that but i lost it, also tihnk its super outdated

[radiant flame]

yes, but you have support engravings

[minor briar]

no dps is going drops or awakening

[radiant flame]

so no dps will want those engravings

[haughty hound]

what are the stats a DPS looks for? im paladin and look for swiftness and specialization

[minor briar]

depends on the class

[minor briar]

^

[radiant flame]

those are the stats somespec classes will run, but for an accessory to be worth something the engravings need to be useful as well

[warm anvil]

is it just for doing cooperative stuff?

[radiant flame]

all endgame raids

pretty much

[haughty hound]

ok ty, ill try to study a bit

[radiant flame]

becaus eyou can't solo them

so you need to party up, often with 7 other people

[warm anvil]

how important is it to find a guild for each of my alts?

[radiant flame]

i mean if you have a core guild most guilds will have alt guilds

[forest bear]

I got a bunch of relic accessoires but i have no clue what are good ones and dont know the pricing how am i able to even sell those o.o

[warm anvil]

is it best to find them off this discord or through other methods?

[radiant flame]

There are plenty of guilds advertising here

[radiant flame]

So I’d probably try that first?

[radiant flame]

You need to read some class guides and understand what engravings people generally use

[radiant flame]

But yeah the infographic here gives some decent information, if slightly general

[outer mason]

they're a new player, they have to start somewhere

[radiant flame]

I wasn’t criticising 🤷🏻‍♂️

I mean from first principles things are only worth anything if someone else is willing to buy it

So yeah, having some idea about what engravings are often used for endgame builds will be the most useful thing to do

[haughty hound]

how do i ascent a legendary equipament part to relic?

[noble ferry]

is south vern tome any bad to do? like anything with bad rng involved? cuz thinking of doing it + either feiton or yorn instead of both feiton and yorn for my bifrost

[radiant flame]

You shouldn’t need to do any of them for bifrost? There are 9 way easier ones

But south vern is fine, but some of the food is slightly annoying

[forest bear]

its hard to not just throw a good necklace away or whatever

[warm anvil]

how does one get amethyst shards? wolf mount looks pretty dope

[radiant flame]

For armour you do Valtan and vykas raids

[noble ferry]

no..? its 7 easy ones then its between svern, yorn and feiton for 9

[radiant flame]

Twitch drops

[noble ferry]

cuz after that rapport gets insane

[warm anvil]

how often do those happen?

[haughty hound]

gues im in time to start it, im 1420 item level

[radiant flame]

Every month or so. There is one on now

[warm anvil]

ive never actually done twitch drops so i have no idea how that works or whats required

[radiant flame]

thats what i did

[haughty hound]

my equip is +15, shoud i start farming for relic armor than?

[radiant flame]

i think theyre all easier than yorn, feiton or svern

you dont need sacha or ealyn affection - just trusted

[pseudo atlas]

svern has some virtue locked foods iirc

[noble ferry]

bro north vern and arthetine requires like 400k rapport points combined

[radiant flame]

you do not need affection

it's also not that high

nowhere near that high

[noble ferry]

https://i.redd.it/s28qxl3d5iz81.png

surely

[radiant flame]

oh right combined

yes still not quite there right

but it's still easier

i mean we have so many chests

idk why its a problem

anyway, id much rather that

[noble ferry]

you problaby do, i only have 100~ epic ones

[radiant flame]

than food rng

[noble ferry]

and im certain it wont be enough

[radiant flame]

feiton is meant to be fine now they nerfed some of the food farming?

but yeah, idk

[warm anvil]

is there any cooldown when leaving guild?

[radiant flame]

yorn you're at the mercy of the una food

[radiant flame]

its like a day for the first time?

[noble ferry]

do you think this is enough? i still have some other continents to do too

[warm anvil]

and if i do knowledge transfer am i still able to play that character or no?

[noble ferry]

(ofc id choose the gift that the npc likes every time and try to minimize waste)

[hollow scroll]

yep it even says so when you use it..

[warm anvil]

cool, imma do that for my gunlancer, i cant be bothered

[hollow scroll]

still need to hone

just run the story

[warm anvil]

yeah but i dont like spending time on the alts so

[hollow scroll]

you need to though

[radiant flame]

enough for what

2 entire continents?

your epics are ~60-70k or so, your legendary is 16k, your relics are 110k

i mean if you're rapporting from scratch it's not a lot, no

i would just set up some bifrosts and do the rapport slowly

no need to fomo

a bunch of them will have dialogue and quests to help you anyway

some of the bigger rapport hogs like sacha and ealyn have 4 actions

which is like, nearly a legendary item a day

[warm anvil]

what would be the best ways to get low level leapstones on alts? i understand guardians but people dont really queue for the lower ones

[radiant flame]

market, una, event

[radiant flame]

so the reason i recommend nvern and arthetine is that the rapport is pretty much the only difficult thing, and that is purely a timegate, and you can just do it day by day

[outer mason]

for tier 2 only: boss rush is also nice, if you have a ticket that is

[radiant flame]

that's how i did them, and i barely used any gifts

the cooking is - imo - the most time consuming part and feiton, yorn, and south vern have some of the worst