#lost-ark-help
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leafs are per life skill?
Once I get my final fish leaf I’m going to swap to exca
not as bad as I expected, thats a lot of money in short time
Yep
10.5k on essence boost goes by fast
Double the exp and mats less time
:d
My reflux sorc is 1302 now I gotta get my gs 1445 before I can have fun on her

Yeah 3x3x1 is nice but I feel like that added one is gonna make it more fun
4x3+1 is a good spot to be as well
But I’m not going to worry about 4x3 she’s going to be a good slave for now
I planned on it she has been super fun to use
I just need to park her because I’m taking on too many projects at once
you can just slow push with bound mats
true 4x3+1 is probably the best before 4x3+2+1
I need to get my summoner to 1460 once she’s 1445. Then her to 1460. Then I can bring my new sorc up to 1460
btw kris don't drop adrenlaine
if you going for 3x3+1
go for adrenaline/grudge/hitmaster+1PM
Community guide implements adren anyways I planned on keeping it
That’s my current engraving build
my build is 4x3+1 without adrenaline, I use salv, I still crit lot, but sometimes those whitenumbers just hurts me deep down
are you doing peace or TTH
to hit for 5m instead of 10 or 12
Pm

Wdf
enjoy your... 2k? less now maybe?
3k
Yeh I’m 3-3-1 with the exact same thing you mentioned. That’s my current build. It works nicely. But I think tripods are holding my damage back bigggg time. Cause lv 5 gems are pretty nice. But I forgot to save pods..
ah shit I forgot to dispatch my cubes !
👀

so
how am I supposed to get to 150 kindness for some rapport options
ilvl and relic set will hold you back more than anything else
youre not saving cube tickets to convert for gems
na my main is level 58.9
what
by playing the game
I need xp
i need xp >:::
yeah im 9 ignea tokens in
Fuck offffff
dont even play a class that can use it
arcana maybe
bluelancer
that's true, skillpoints and tripods big dmg increase for gs probably even more dmg than upgrading from lvl 5 to lvl 7 gems
I know what I’m doing tomorrow. Scouring market and popping sage dust chests. As well as some chaos farming 
tbh the only thing worth in my pic is that two card selection packs
tripods are huge for GS
Tripods, relic set, skill points
everything else is just fluff add ons until you have these
Yeah if my party isn’t dog water I usually always end up last in damage. Even with constant 2.5m-7m crits in duskeluda
GS reallllly needs relic to shine
gimme and I give you the desperate salv and expert books 
ima trade for 20 grudge books 
books are cheaper but grudge +3 acc have not dropped

keep it in mind
Easy enough tbh. Relic was the easiest thing for me to achieve. 1460 is what was worse 
1460 is required for relic set forgot normal exists
Yeah I know
and at least 2-3 vykas
I'm still collecting to buy leg grudge
just made my gunslinger a 5x3 set for tth and its fun but im already thinking of going pm 
I’m saying getting 1460 was worse than grinding relic gear 
I can’t even imagine 1500 like what? I went broke honing one piece of gear. There’s just no way
yeah its icky 4x3 + 2+ 1
a guildie of mine does prokel on spec 5x3+1 TTH gs and crits for like 143m
but im playing swift 
so jelly 😠
im addicted to the dominion set
I got a decent ring the other day, sold it, really hurts me how all this money only worth 3 grudge books. like seriously wtf
grudge is like 6k wtf
wait till you see my swift igniter 



on EU its 13k+
you can snipe cheap grudge books for 16g if you sit on the auction house
damn that 12 g
yuck
So tomorrow is reset as well right
yup
Okay so
tonight in like 7 hours is reset(?)
that price leap is "someone bought out the 50 books on the market to boost the ones they have artificially"
I should definitely be running as many legions as I can on any characters that can right? Essentially any character that can earn any gold in any dungeon.
someone sold that for 2.7k
all gold earners yes, if you want gold
cant do that
theyre bound once you buy em
i never said resell
dont get burn out though. 18 legion raids is a lot
We can only have 3 legion raid earners correct?

Or is that 3 per character?
if you buy 500g of books and sell a single 3k book you win
its 3 per char
for a maximum of 6 chars
what how
you can still run legion on non-gold earners

pepega roster of 18 chars
if you have the time you can do it
you still get matz?
like Lost ark is your job or whatever
yeah
My ilevels still so low
you still get the drops, no raw gold, but you can drop class books etc
very nice
i mean i only do that when i got my gold ones out of the way and my friends still wanna do some 
whats your roster ilvls?
1461 artist, 1445 summoner, 1402 gs, 1302 sorc.
And 3 t1 characters lol
I'm thinking about upgrading my seathblade for that, I always try to do my main on reset day, and my two alts on the next, then my friend messages me 3 days later to help him and im like you are too late 

That’s like 3 legions and 3 Argos XD
so basically you can do 4 legion raids, should yield you around 11-12k gold
+5k una gold
For free great honors
oh yeah argussy too
I love hosting argussy lobbies that shit brings me so much life melting through all 3 gates 
Fucking mystic deer asshole

I think we should naturalize the naming of bosses to be
Argussy
Valtussy
Vykussy
Clownussy
Then Brelshaza
cuz brelshaza is superior
brelsussy
you wouldn't call her that when she puts her energy fists in your
i think you should be banned


Love you too
If I powerpass do I miss out on the quests that give small amounts of virtue stats in those zones?...
Yes
They don't give it to me automatically?
It does not
no, you dont lose anything
if you powerpass you get every single thing that gets you rosterwide one time rewards
all the skill potions, all the stat potions, all the virtues
it does give them to you automatically
you get them all
After spending 50 usd on a PP I feel kind of entitled to those characteristics 
KT however, does not give those things.
Unless it was changed power passing used to not give you the virtues from north vern and shushire and once you do it you lose them forever
it was never changed and the people who spread that were idiots

@eager hazel powerpass without any worry in the world, you lose nothing by doing so
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Okay time to dream of fishing and failing my net fishing minigame but making lots of gold regardless

get to 30 and go relicing
I am 30
its fine still worth. just craft purple excav thing
but excavation means you have to actually put in some effort
What island do you recommend relic on
this is true
i put in more effort by trying not to fall asleep due to how boring fishing is
I don't recommend excavs best route unless you have betrayal set as well, its ass without it, or super armour
I did relic on azena when I first started I’m okay with that lol
punika secret forest run is so bad without it
i fish when i want to sleep
So get super armor if I’m gonna go to secret forest
fixed my sentence, sorry
Cause fuck those banana throwing asses
i mean yeah. the BEST most efficient way to do it is have 2 shovels, one with super armour and then a minigame boosting shovel you switch too for the minigame (unlocked at 20)
just be rish and buy everything, never work ingame
Also what is betrayal set
its so fun crafting 15 orehas at once 🙂
Do I also need that
are you in game?
I am not
ok
next time on your main
press P, down the bottom under character theres 'gear set conversion' button
check that
Right
You can freely convert set from X to Y once you unlock it
Oooooo so that’s what that does!!!
O:
Is it the one with the lightning
Niceeee
it gives a variety of different orbs, meteor, circle line of lightning, lightning strikes
the circle is the best BY FAR
instagibs mobs (depends on weapon strength, dmg etc)
That’s the fancy thing I was seeing in kr videos
it really speeds up chaos
My phone has fallen onto my face 4 times now I am gone now. Bye bye fellow lost ark argussy enjoyers 
night
Yeah I need 5 more wings to do a conversion

But before I go
So like when I click that thing
And transfer my set
It isn’t permanent?
Like I can go back to my swamp set?
great for supp chaos
My artist won’t struggle in chaos anymore yayyyyy
imagine not knowing about mass presets
or trying builds
mass presets will become your best friend once you have set conversion unlocked
set up a proper chaos mass preset
i dont even use betrayal on my artist
i feel its faster if i go salvation and 1shot everything
artist is pretty fast for chaos
I saw them in kr streams but never learned the names XD
yeah all supports are top tier CD clearers
raid cap

pally should be one of the best
max raid cap + ful lswiftness = deleting mobs
its average for elites but clears the screen completely
Now i'm looking more into getting him to 4x3 proper dps build for tower
you dont even need swift on pala
Anyone know if I'll be able to buy the skins tomorrow with blue crystals?
true
lemme look into my glass bowl
maybe
I know it's a perfectly valid question but you can just wait until tomorrow no
sorry my 8ball ran out of oil, find out in 12hrs!
in the next episode
can i transfer abyssal upgrade mats like a knights oath between characters?
no
no char bound
rip whens the reset
7 hrs
Been hovering 1460 on main for a decent bit now, should I look to push to 1475 / 1490 or get 5x3 and Level 7 gems first? Currently 4x3 with level 6 gems
defo 5x3 and 7x gems
you lose argos gold and you need those to get accepted into clown and brel
Understood, totally blanked on the Argos gold drop

does zerkers use cursed doll 
@maiden locust Cursed doll or raid captain. I use raid because I hate how bad pots are
fair enough, I hate cursed doll too 
Are you using maxroll for your build?
I actually follow the community guide, but I'm thinking ahead of myself atm, late night deciding if I should invest in making cursed doll +12 instead of grudge xd
I would recommend grudge if you're playing most/all dps.
depends on his roster
That's why I said most or all dps roster
he could perhaps cheap out on a leggo book if all or most of his roster uses one engrave in particular
maybe all his roster uses ambush master
maybe hit master
That's true as well. Mine doesn't so grudge was a no brainer for me
well I have 2 supps / 4 dps so yeah im definitely going for grudge, just doubting myself xD
same here, I have GS/SH/DB so yeah grudge is the common one between them
keep in mind grudge +3 accessories are much more expensive
+5 adren +3 grudge (etc) are much more expensive than ambush or CD or whatever else you can pick
yeah true
Yeah I was wondering about that. Like my 3 main classes all run barricade, but I was wondering if it's actually worth it to get barricade books over say grudge since I still have to get grudge accessories
grudge 5 is usually (not always) cheaper
naruni ends today or no?
do you reckon I will be able to get enough gold for that skin before it's gone I'm ilevel 600 rn
If you literally just ran chaos dungeons and nothing else you would be ok
Just get some alts and run chaos dungeons on those
buy with real money
how would that help me?
Oh wait talked about gold nvm
I don't get gold from those
I can't read
what was your idea
I thought you were talking about super premium
no
no
Unless you happen to drop juice accessories, no. There is pretty much no way.
mid game ‼️
give me back my money oh wait
Free game 
the only price I have to pay for this MMO is my soul much better than subscription based that also require a sub
how much does argos gives now
Well you have until June to get that skin so...
Like 1k
hmm ic
is it a coincident that my punika pass alt is right at 300 skill points or... do skill point potions not apply to alts
Skill point pots are roster wide.
am i glitched or did they remove the log in rewards yesterday?
they did not remove login rewards yesterday
you simply need to look at the login rewards window more closely
i must have retrieved them already then because it wont let me click on it the icon besides product inventory isnt bright
anyone got any tips on defeating valtan legion raid?
experience, higher item level and not getting knocked off?
oh they removed it in the last few hours, i guess that is technically yesterday for a fair portion of the world
Is this chat safe for complete newbie questions - or is there a better outlet?
you can ask anything you want here lol

So from a complete newbies stand point - what cards should I focus on aquiring from these free packs Ive got & who's rapport should I really be focusing on. I understand some give gold and some give skill point potions. I'd prefer the skill points - that's the better choice I'd assume? 
none give gold, that is removed for our version
these are both great resources that will help you focus on skill points
None give skill points directly either. But most people focus on nia (omnium star), calvasus, sacha, nineveh, Beatrice (giants heart) - as those collectibles give skill points
For cards - I would just save selection packs now until you know what you are doing. Open the random ones and see what you get. Cards are a long term thing. In the short term just get a set that gives hp (field boss)
Keep in mind that if you open the random card packs you get you will quickly fill up your slots and have to buy more with blue crystals. Its possible to just horde them all for later.
I appreciate it! Thank you very much for the help 
Oh one more question - should I be killing myself by doing every single side quest in addition? I read that you can just beeline it until 'Arthentine'? I wouldnt be missing any integral items? Or because Im brand new - itd be worth talking to everyone
Up to you. Overall side quests will add quite a bit of play time, but most of them are on the way to what you were doing anyway. If you want to speedrun there are some guides for you
I think there's a few side quests along the way that can give skill point potions that you may want to do
No there is no point to do the side quests
They complete automatically from punika powerpass
Saves a lot of time to just skip them on eg story express character, then get the punika pp which gets all the quest skill points automatically
Ah forgor about that
most of them don't really matter yeah
you might get some roster exp from it, sure
but it's way more tedious than they're worth
that would not make sense even if she did, what would happen when that skill comes back off cd
so whats the gatekeepers requirements for clown raid?
Usually 5x3 🤷🏻♂️
You might get into some learning parties with less, but on ilvl clown is very very hard
Is there a una lopang guide / sticky / chart? I heard that's a good way to make silver.
Trying to find out which quests you're supposed to do, and what the ilvl breakpoints are
Arthetine, shushire, vern
Mainly because the consoles are all together, though they’re also the most rewarding
Idk about the breakpoints but 🤷🏻♂️
Are there prereqs? And suggested bifrost points for f2p?
For the una? You need to just do the lopang island quest chain
You can’t really lopang until you have all your bifrosts
And/or have aura
You need 1 bifrost for lopang island (inside console room)
Then 1 bifrost for each continent
So with 3 you can only bifrost to 2 continents
For third you can either use song of return (slow) or aura for 4th bifrost
cool, appreciate the help 🙂
Is silver costs proportional to honing shard costs?
I keep hearing that the honing shard nerfes are also silver nerfs(?)
I think silver cost scales with shard cost. it wasnt explicitly said in notes so we'll see soon
Guys we need to do Rowen to access the new Chaos and Guardian?
no
really?
Oh, was trolling then
Ohh gotcha
Even when new content come you don't have to rowen
its worth it though for XP, if you aren't 60 yet
ty ty, but at the end when elgacia come, we need to do Rowen?
AH ok ok

So its only XP and Cards
Noice, i was afraid of doing 6 Rowen tomorrow ugh
Only 6
you have 6 characters at 1540 already?

3,- 1520 and 1 1540, i was waiting for Shard Nerf or the patch notes 
And 4 more in 1460 trying to decide what to push
jfc
Yeah im soo behind, i left LOA since Dec and Come back last month trying to push to 1540 at least and my terror was ROWEN because friends say i have to do it in all 6 
behind?
Yep u know the gatekeeping and fomo in this game its painful. It was tiring when i was trying to do Kakul with Pieces lvl 1 and only 1500 Ilvl

if you're behind then I believe the average player is literally in prehistoria
Im average player i think? the people i know its 1540-1570 Main and Alts 
not average
the people you know are beyond above average
theres barely content at all past 1570
Btw its true that you need FULL Gear Relic of Brel Normal to access Hard Mode?
no
I’d say the average player has a 1540-1560 main that’s been playing since launch.
you need full brel to craft ancient
Why are these amulets tripods marked as tracked?
should be an achievement for equipping 6pc brel relic that's required for crafting
Gotcha gotcha ty, then at least i think i can try Hardmode with my main if someone invite me 
you marked them as tracked at one point
After I unmark them, how long until they stop showing up as marked?
oh wait did you mess with notification settings
because I swear I unmarked them like 2 weeks ago and they're still showing up
immediately
you must've set your tracking settings wrong then
you open the skill window and hit settings to set tripods to mark, and then you hit settings again to open tripod notifications
I updated options. Looks like it's working now, thanks!! So much easier to deal with!
So you need Brel25 to get Esther 6 unlocked, but what Akkan equivalent gives you access to Esther 6?
hey wanted to ask if there is anyway to make the missed yellow quests visible on other chars? my first char got yellow quest left at alot of npc around the maps but i cannot see them on my second char
did you powerpass
when you lose oreha gold? also how much a 1445 character makes a week?
Above 1415 lose oreha
Powerpass completes all yellow quests
oh i see ty
how much a 1445 character makes a week?
I had it calculated sheet but people are saying it got nerfed so need the current values
Well… there’s a calculator pinned in this channel that you can use 
Or you can read last patch notes for changed gold values.
there's too many tagged stuff
is it updated?
Perhaps read it.
somebody said valtan hm gives 2500 but in the sheet it says 3000
That someone obviously didn’t read the patch notes.
I c
Looks like you should read the patch notes too 
What does this mean?
Is for those that have multiple characters with same class?
I think it means that you don't have to unlock the triport location on subsequent alts now, so you can just fast travel easier
Triport isn’t the same as tripod 
Sorry I can't read apparently 
just a before after gold earning of a 1445 character, I understand they want you to push but won't this make it harder for new or low ilvl players? (if my calculation is correct)
You're semi correct
The economy was over inflated with all the gold and is currently going through deflation thanks to the nerf
What class do you play?
me?
yes
arti/scrapper
Ok
Arti books for barrage were 11-12k
Now they are like 5k (NAW)
after gold nerf
so you have less gold to earn, but things also cost less
Guys, can someone help me woth a quick answer please? I feel like I dont do enough dmg for my ilvl. Im a taijutsu scrapper 70/30 crit swift, 1500 ilvl , 5x5 (taijutsu, grudge, adrenaline, keen blunt and ambush), entropy set, decent bracelet (crit precise strenght vit) almost full lvl 7 gems (missing some cooldowns), lvl 5 tripods, missing dmg from cards (Omw to 12awakening los rn) weapon is still from vykas set and yet i do significantly less damage then any other scrapper i ve seen, i hit for 6-7 mil crits when solo, what am i doing wrong?
So on face value its a loss of gold, but the deflation more than makes up for it
yep
you dont need aura
tbh, if you play for a month youll be past 1445
to progress
and rfp is correct as well, aura isnt a requirement
Ik but makes life hella easier
70/30 isnt meta anymore
if you think so
repair and storage is the main thing I sue but still
i have never bought aura
aim for DD18. not los12
Is this the reason im doing low damage?
LOS only worth at 18 and above
no its not the reason, the information you have given isnt enough
but its irrelevant to the central point that your gold is now worth more in terms of gearing up and buying accs/books from the market
hmm, I have this bad habbit if repairing after every wipe/death
why
how many wipes the armor can take before it needs repairing?
What info is missing ? 😄
like 10+
i mean like heaps
It could be the fact that your uptime is 1%
you could floor POV the entire time
you could hit the front or side 1/2 the time
What quality is your gear?
Do you have brel weapon?(probably not I assume)
Still vykas
hmm
80+ qual
thats the good thing, tai cheap to make
its pure uptime issue
But all up Tai is not a top performing DPS unless you're god tier uptime
Gotta switch to swift i rhink, i jnderstand im overcapped on crit rn
Aiight that could be cheaper just gotta switch earrings
70/30 should have you swithc one thing yeah
Also my iptime is pretty good, im only struggling with bosses that love a lot, like that damn turtle at 1460 at the end ehem it jumps everywhere xd
Move* a lot
God dammn it phone
i guarantee you it can always be better
and not just uptime in general, back attack uptime
But uptime and mastering your class is the biggest. Iirc, most players sit around 50-60% uptime. God tier Tai players at 90% uptime have a chance of MVP, but anything underneath you will be beaten by spec classes
Oh i know that, im 100% sure i suck compared to any scrapper at my ilvl xd
Uptime is VERY tough to master
^
I mean if youre all the same ilvl and gear tai has a chance
but remember that someone might jump into turtle at 1520
or 1500 but brel weapon
or los30
arguably, the hardest thing to measure in NON-equalised content is DPS output. Its all over the place.
So i assume brel weapon is big power spike? Cause i ve seen how bosses get shreded from others with just 10-20 ilvl over me
cards, weapon
lwc12 does v little for you as you must be overcapped on crit
lwc12 sucks for tai big time
Game hated me and trust me or mot i cant get executor solas, it wont drop, i ve opened 87 green packs at once, not even 1
go for DD18, you get it from merchants
LWC12, forget about it *shakes hand
So you're running the health set for cards I assume? LOS12 does nothing at all. Aim for Deep dive18 which gives +8% damage
Im stuck with los12 rn, might try and go for dd18 after i google search the ways to grt he cards xd
go into the cards and tag all the blue cards from Deep dive and you have a plan. Keep this website up when you play and you'll quickly get enough cards for DD18 (and you have a plan for supports)
Will do that after maintenance, thanks a lot
Keep in mind that its going to be hard for you to catch a lot of the players in the game for a while
I was so confused cause my destroyer hits harder at 1420 ffs xd
yeah tai is lots of little damage with excellent uptime on skills
its a very fun playstyle
but if you want big numbah you gotta build a spec class
Understandable, they have 1 year of playtime over me so xd
Shock scrapper, Surge DB, Ignite sorc, etc
Much, MUCH more expensive to produce but when you do get there you get huge numbers
dont rush, the damage will come
in the meantime just focus on the card set and your personal uptime. The better you are at uptime the more damage will flow naturally when you get the upgrades
Im working on a loyal companion sharpshooter, a rage hammer destroyer and thinking of a soulfist too for dps
soulfist is SO fun
but none of them will cruel fighter over the classes I listed
and thats completely fine
dont chase numbers, chase fun
My thoughts exactly
But i also like to feel like i do damage
It s pretty sad when you finish a raid where you thought you did something and you re not in the mvp screen 😦
I mean technically you could pursue a route to find out how much damage you did
but its not 'allowed' and possibly 'bannable'
I started the scrapper cause it s really fun, mainly because i love continuous push, but the damage is so underwhelming rn
Not the destroyer
I bet on ilvl I would smash your destroyer just because I am setup better
Solo run i crit for 10-15 mil at 1420
Wait til you get relic set
and you see even bigger numbers
theres tonnes to look forward too
Oh i cant wait for that trust me xd i pray for the day my destroyer hits the 40 mil on perfect swing xd
yeah in the west
Saw a guy hit for 1 billion once
a guildie of mine is hyper invested into his destro
level 10 gem for perfect swing etc
330m is his highest
ye
Hit*
my quickest deska was carried by a sorc from my guild, 1m2s
the power you are chasing WILL come, its just quite some time off
Fastest desk of mine is 0.53s, some guy at 1590 decided to shrred it for us
Prolly at 1590 too now xd
I gotta head to work, thanks a lot for the help and the advice
Have a great day dude ❤️
you too, gl in loa
how long is maintenance expected to be, did they say
yeah i wouldnt hold your breathe for 6h
whats the cheapest to get 5 | 3? i got awakening book and full bloom both +12
ur gonna need to check the market urself
with all the combinations
ye ty)) just thought maybe there is a guide line on which piece to get + x to reach 15 in all^^
you just build around whats available
Start with stone, then neck
and fill out the rest
aight ty^^
idk this calculator is kinda confusing to me, to take a 1340 character to 1445 it will take this much mats?
looks right to me
oki
saw on stopz vid he says it's super ez to get 1445 it's still 1200 leaps lol
its way easier
keep in mind that this game is meant to be played as a marathon
if you want to sprint you will have to spend money
yeah don't overburden yourself. Take the game slow because you can burn out quickly
I wish all new players would take it on board
Yeah super easy when u have 6 Alts to funnel 1,000 leaps its like 2 Weeks rested
is it too late at 1500 to change your main? 😄
you wanna change to what ?
it doesn't tell you if the skills or hold or casting tho
i dont know yet, probably a soulfist or a zerk
subclasses should generally be assumed to play differently from each other
never too late
yea but I saw few videos even tho it's spec/crit seems pretty similar to tai scrapper
similar in what sense?
can't really pin point tbh
just seems like it
also she seems pretty fast for a spec character
which build you lookin at?
robust
hmm really
I think sf is just a bit clunky 🤷🏻♂️
yeah thats about it
Hype management doesn’t seem very fun/intuitive
my first char was sf and she felt like indescribably not very good to play
hi how long is the maintenance?
till what ilvl you played her?
like the little trixion demo at the character creation made her seem fun but its not as fun
1100 or so
rs sf is one of those
for eg arti is pretty boring /slow and all the other things
her downtime scales directly with her spec stat
on low ilvl
Im 1560 and will probably mainswap when aero comes out 🤷🏻♂️
is arcana fun?
Ultimately we can’t tell you how you will find sf
Because we don’t know what you find fun
I can just tell you xD
thats sort of the problem with rs sf, you get the interesting burst window where you cycle your whole kit like twice but when you arent in hype you basically are banned from casting spells
Arcana is fun but is complex to start with
hmm
You kind of need to know a bit about how the cards work
i cant speak to emperor but empress requires me to be constantly engaging with the game
What's ... fun to you Mr. ABhishek
I have tried like 8-9 classes on 1445 or over but only found 2 classes I actually enjoy
emperor is called a piano class but technically she has like a 3-round rotation for optimal dps to manage a few buff windows etc
What are those classes?
and those 2 classes are like very different 1 is spec other is swift
arti and tai scrapper
Did you try out Destroyer?
How different is striker from scrapper? they seem pretty similar
is the striker better dps wise?
nope
Gravity Training Destroyer plays similarly to Barrage Artillerist
Instead of being stationary, you can actually move
all classes have comperable dps fwiw
depends on what striker I tried deathblow it's ok ig
and everyone has enough to clear content
how is the dps and def?
What s your main dps tho guys? i wanna find a class that deals the numbers too
i ve piccked scrapper cause it s fun but it s too unerwhelming
GT Destroyer has a high ceiling and considerable DPS, IF you're able to pull it off
They all deal numbers 🤦♂️
Between arcana and wardancer which one is better as an alt ? As a char in top 6 gold earning roster pref.
In terms of it being cost efficient and not being boring in the long run. Even if the learning curve is steeper.
Wanted to know since I havnt used the hyper pass yet.
Most of the time you barely do any DMG
skill issue im afraid
Unless of course you're able to position yourself well
GT Destroyer's all about positioning and a bit of luck
If you know how to play GT Destroyer, you'll be able to dish out considerable amounts of DMG
hmm idk if I wanna go with a class like that xD
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Rage Hammer's more forgiving, all of your DMG is in a few attacks
it lets you try the class but on the lowest lvl possible
It's big numbers, if you're into that
so it's really hard to choose
u really call me a roach
He is telling the truth 🤷🏻♂️ I main Swift TTH
Not exactly big numbers
But I MVP from time to time
well everybody likes big numbers xD
that's why I have a arti
On the other hand I completely suck at igniter which is on paper a much better build
too many support players for that to be universally true
Arti's a lot of small numbers though
It ain't the same
also I have a scrapper, the dps is ok but the playstyle also hthe sound makes it really fun
it wasn't like that before
hmm true
i mean the fact that there are support mains at all tells me not everyone wants numbers
but i digress
I mean yea
what do i know im a roach whos bored for reset
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chaos dungeon as empress arcana 
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it's been like 10 days
is there a bot command channel on this server
i still couldn't figure out what class i wanna choose
I think I will just end up with 3x arti and 3x scrapper
I have x5 Arti and x1 Berserker
If that's what you're happy with, it'll do
It's also very gold-efficient
Less gems to invest into
Books too 🤷🏻♂️
Oui
You can also hand down any accessories that you may no longer need to use on your main
(Relic -> Ancient)
that's the main reason for it but also I am scared I will get bored
Pheon cost's still attached of course, but at least you don't have to purchase 'em again
That is understandable, it ain't for everybody
He just said - it’s cheaper
But you also don’t enjoy anything else you tried 😂
You can also just … not make more alts
You don’t have to make a full roster
very true
yes but I believe there are like 25+ classes in total? I have tried like 40% Ig
did u try gunlancer
gl based
I tried the red one
red one's the hard one
not a fan of the dash
backstep does mess me up
reverse reverse backstep in g6 brel
i've seen a lot of GLs die during the g6 prog days
I have played this game enough to know you need all the alts you can get to progress
thats just not true
Definitely not true
maybe to optimally progress sure
To FOMO push, sure.
To optimally progress you swipe
Not mandatory, though.
You can get one character quite high w/out having to play too many characters
Given the time it takes to progress an alt you can literally make more real money in that time
I mean if you put your alts in a decent spot and just do weeklies on them you still wont be able to keep up
Keep up with what
You really only need 1 main and several low ilevel alts that can help pump some gold. If you decide to deck out your alts then you won't get your gold back.
Push your main to the moon, park your alts around 1460 - 1475
People are at 1560 on solo characters
If at all, 1445 is also fine
Keep up with what and who? Again...FOMO pushing. Don't do that.
I was able to get 1475 a good full like month or more before clown even came out and I was only really playing my main. Not swiping, either.
without spending?
Yes.
im 1560 with only buying ark pass every time
I am a perfect example of that
how do you get the gold to push then?
play the game
I would literally be 1540+ on my Scrapper if I actually gave a shit about pushing it and wasn't saving for Slayer
doing weekly raids, getting lucky on good accessory drops
Events are a big factor tbh
for example few months back it was like 30-40-k gold just to get to 1490 from 1460?
Don't listen to anyone that says you need +6 alts to be caught up. Those people are fomo zombies.
if you play 1 character that alone takes weeks or even months?
how often do u think new content comes out
Its more than that, but thats also not relevant and also was still achievable
As people did it
I have started fresh so it's 1455
Yes, this also don't go "I've played this game enough to know" you haven't
I'm not trying to be combative, I'm just saying...misinformation = no bueno
For now it'll seem like you can't catch up, eventually you'll see that you'll be able to get there in no time
It seems like a lot to get to where people are, I get it, its gold and materials and such.
as I said I started fresh, I had 1475 main, 1460, rest 1445 roster 2 months before clown release without spending a dime
Daunting.
Of course you'll never be able to rival the account of someone who's been playing since launch w/out a considerable time / money investment
But that's just how it is
also like 6k+ tradable leaps for breh push
The biggest hurdle is getting 1490 then doing Brel and getting brel relic, then up to 1560 it comes easier
The push to 1490'll be rough but after it'll be quite fast again
Also; the honing shard nerf's gonna be big for u too
I wasn't actualy 1475 I was like 1473 or something iirc I didn't wanted to push since I had no party for clown and didn't wanted to lose the gold from argos
Whats the best way to push a alt from 1302 to 1445 as a new player? Just daily una chaos guardian?
You also have gold from brel, from vykas and clown
And weekly unas
and anything else
You'll probably have a income of around 20k ~ w/out selling any resources
If you start getting FOMO you're just gonna burn yourself out of this game again
As a new player with the frequency of events, you can definitely get very close if not even surpass the ilvl requirement for the relevancy of the major content on one character. If your aim is to bring all 6 to high endgame to be on par with the on launch players, you are either swiping or delusional.
Or you embrace chinese blood money
The content doesn't go anywhere. I don't even think KR is at an ilvl where they stop getting Valtan gold yet, hell they just got a new Abyssal Dungeon that counts towards their weekly gold limits for raids
aren't they baning rmt gold then?
It's really just a matter of whether you are willing to divert everything to push that one character
You'll be publicly hanged for RMTing
Or are you sprinkling your gold everywhere and then
where gold
I just log in for an hour daily to do una chaos guardian after doing valtan vykas on main character
I am never going to push all my roster anyway
but having all your roster at 1445 really helps
for example leaps
Just wait for the occassional Hyper Express and Power Pass
Feels kind of slow still but just 4 weeks in
@fossil linden Btw I accidentally'd into 1490 on my Scrapper, just for context. I was only doing like 1 to 3 actual attempts on a single armor piece a day just passively with only my mains source of materials and it took me maybe like...a month and a half to get there. Again...not even pushing for it, I have been saving everything else from my alts for Slayer.
At 1465 main
lost ark maintenance????????
Yess patch
That was going from 1475 to 1490
Do. Not. Get. FOMO.
Go to website news
But I have to experience the latest content on all 6 gold earners for that big corpa gold 
even if I fomo I never be able to catch up so it doesn't really matter
Why are you trying to catch up? To who?
Just a matter of who or what you think you are catching up to
The best way to enjoy this game rather than worrying about 6 roster is.... get yourself a a decent guild and friends. Probably make the game a night and day difference.
People at 1590?
I am not I am just chilling
This is very true makes my vykas hard runs easier and learn faster
Okay, then thats fine. Don't say things like you said earlier, then lol
what in said? I forgot
but I do wanna get high ilvl
You said this, lol
yes exactly
This
Yeah and there's always other new players for people to make friends with and do the content without the pug requirements
it's not like I will be 1560 even if I life the game in few months
considering "never able to catch up" as a bad thing is the definition of fomo
So what constitutes as catching up to you in the first place
You definitely can be 1560 in a few months if you divert all resources to that char

I still stand by this tho, if I put all my alts on 1445 just for the gold earling and 1 person plays only 1 main he will never be able to beat me not possible
not on ilvl neither gold anything
thats not really the point tho
that's just mathematically not possible
So you'd be pushing all characters equally instead of only one?
Is that what you mean?
How geared are you alts? The more you invest into your alts, the slower your man's progression will be
nope
Main*
You underestimate how much the events give you to push
for example they made it no gold till 1445
obviously you get more income from full alts but youre treating it like a chore
so 5 characters there
I literally did the thing you are saying can't be done, though. Before clown even came out...on my main, to 1475, with only my main as a source of gold and materials.
then push main to infinity
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Sure, that's more gold
But it's efficiency for sanity
It's up to you to balance it
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it's not like can't be done, but you will always be behind a person who does what I mentioned
Pushing your alts is just wasting gold to make more gold. Big corpa stonks 
Who cares...?
I'm 1570 with a few 1460 alts. It's so easy to get this high
But what is behind to you?
I couldn't give a damn about people at 1590 right now
No one should
They are not you
If you start caring about the progress of other people, you're already in a bad mindset
You’ll always be behind someone
If you think your goalpost is that omegalodon 1590 with all L10 gems, then you are ruining your own game
true
Your original question was about keeping up with content
that's a cool name
Thats probably why you stopped playing before, Abhishek
Which is not an issue at all
You worried about everyone else
I just want more 1445 alts so I can raid more 
When servers come up I'd like to join a guild.. Still new to the game but I am indeed a whale
That is very fair 
me and the boys running valtan pugs 247
nah, I enjoyed the raids chaos and guardians is what I hated
Don't do them
I still do









Dispatch em, fuck it