lost-ark-help

[maiden locust]

Anyone wanna help fill a party for a Learning group? Valtan hard gate 1-2 Orbs into wei

EUC Thirain

[faint pagoda]

Sure why not

Gimme a min

[maiden locust]

ight tell me ur ign ill tell leader to hold a spot we r in voice channel 1

if ur interested in talking too

[faint pagoda]

Yep

[cunning tinsel]

Another question. Is there a way to change the character that has the SE quest?

[faint pagoda]

Just gonna finish this business

[pseudo atlas]

the what

[maiden locust]

dwdw

[cunning tinsel]

the story express

[pseudo atlas]

oh, no

[cunning tinsel]

oh...Because my friend just realised after completing North Vern on his main that he doesnt have that quest haha

and that his first ever character in another server even got it

[dreamy bluff]

20 green books are +3 points, blue are +6, purple are +9, yellow are +12. you can only use purple after you use 20 blue, same thing for trying to get legendary(yellow) or blue. you need to complete the previous stage before you can use the next stage. u will use a combination of engraving books, soaring stones and accessories in order to make your own engravings.

5points is a +1 engraving, 10points is a +2, 15 points is a +3. the more +3 engravings you can "equip" the stronger you class will be(make sure u equip the correct engravings and not just random ones).

[heavy apex]

i seee thank u

[eternal fern]

what box should i be buying with my una coins?

[dreamy bluff]

specific classes have specific engravings that make them stronger

[maiden locust]

whats ur ign

[dreamy bluff]

the biggest one. (500)

[eternal fern]

[dreamy bluff]

better chance to get more gold with it

[heavy apex]

i heard deathblow is good with adrealine cursed doll and some other ones i forgot

[dreamy bluff]

is that striker?

[heavy apex]

yea male striker

[unkempt geyser]

striker is death blow

[lavish grove]

The Ultimate Striker Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Striker class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

​

Striker Community Guide

This information was created by community members · Apr 4, 2023, 8:28 PM

[heavy apex]

thank u

[unkempt geyser]

deathblow kinda spendy

u got it like that?

[dreamy bluff]

each class has 2 options they can go. and each of those options have multiple builds you can choose from

[heavy apex]

im maining this class so im gonna priorities him

i saw th burst damage is pretty nuts no?

[dreamy bluff]

these seem to be what the guide recommends

for deathblow

[heavy apex]

im trying to collect umar card set 1 out of 3 so far

yea cursed doll instead of keen is more budget but not much decrease in damage

[dreamy bluff]

curse doll also means your healing is weaker so people skip it for that so they can survive easier

[vestal idol]

Do you get a refund for brel horns when you craft ancient

[dreamy bluff]

up to each player at the end

[uneven robin]

Deathblows a bait, u need card set to be meta

[maiden locust]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[uneven robin]

No

[dreamy bluff]

i believe so

[maiden locust]

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[dreamy bluff]

remember to check the pins if you run into issues

[weak lion]

what are character presets

[dreamy bluff]

premade characters that other people have made

its for people that dont want to customize their own characters and use someone else to edit to their liking

[weak lion]

wow

[dreamy bluff]

if someone has a preset you like, you can just copy it instead of spending hours trying to duplicate it

[dreamy bluff]

it should be just like when we upgraded from relic to upper relic. we got the relic mats back. now we going into anciant so im guessing we will get upper relic mats back

[plucky basalt]

Is the bonus loot still worth it from valtan or keep the gold instead? Came back at 1467.5 ilvl to the game

[quasi loom]

Who can help me?

[next notch]

what the best class to start?

[eternal fern]

the one you enjoy

[dreamy bluff]

people usually only get the last gate bonus loot after they are done with their set

[next notch]

mage its a good?

[dreamy bluff]

play a class that you enjoy. all of them can do endgame content. you dont want to invest a bunch into a class that you hate

[next notch]

ok thanks

[eternal fern]

do you like mage?

[dreamy bluff]

and yes mage is good if you like her playstyle

[eternal fern]

you will spend many hours on the class

play what you like

[next notch]

I think it will be cool to play as a mage

[quasi loom]

Wchich male person in this game?

[tulip holly]

Can someone help me for Velganos ? (Zinner) I don't find anyone

[unkempt geyser]

yes but i believe you have to do certain things to have insane burst

[vagrant swift]

hello. is matching-making normal guardian raid not a thing (seems no one does it ?

[unkempt geyser]

like your windows

idk tho

[dreamy bluff]

?

[dreamy bluff]

t1, t2, or t3 guardian? which boss?

[quasi loom]

Ike which class have a male

[vagrant swift]

t2 chromanium

[dreamy bluff]

not enough people in t2. thats why ur having a hard time. most people are in t3 sadly

[vagrant swift]

gotcha, ty. guess ill get there soon.

[dreamy bluff]

striker is male wardancer, berzerker, gunlancer, destroyer, machinist, paladin, and a male gunner class. not sure if i missed one

[vagrant swift]

where else can i get destruction stones? im out of aura for chaos dungeon with no entrance tickets

[dreamy bluff]

destruction stones for chaos dungeon?

[quasi loom]

Which character I need chose if I want some mage? I rly want be a summoner but I want be a male

[vagrant swift]

yes i need destruction stones

[dreamy bluff]

no male mages in the game

[dreamy bluff]

destruction stones are used only on hard guardian raids and legion raids. no one uses them in chaos dungeons as they dont do anything in there.

mages

[quasi loom]

In thise game not mage male character?

[pseudo atlas]

what are you talking about lol

[dreamy bluff]

nope. even korea doesnt have a male mage. and they havent said anything about making one either

[thorny pecan]

what does the "sell limit roster item level 1375" mean?

[vagrant swift]

they drop in choas dungeon. you use them to hone t2 weapons and armor

[gritty mauve]

anyone know if the 1540/1560 chaos gives a good amount more silver than 1520?

[thorny pecan]

it means i have to be 1375?

[hollow scroll]

you have to be 1375+ to sell them

[thorny pecan]

awh

[dreamy bluff]

ohhh was thinking of a different destruction

[hollow scroll]

or have 1 character on your roster that is 1375 at least

1375 is free just hone to it

[dreamy bluff]

you can try doing Tower for them(not sure how many they drop on your 1st run). or you can do the T2 island quests

[thorny pecan]

any easy way to get like 1.3k gold?

[vagrant swift]

ok, will look into island quests. ty.

[pseudo atlas]

most methods involve being above ilvl1375

[hollow scroll]

[dreamy bluff]

@vagrant swift https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/category/island
use these as your setting and chose destruction in rewards. it will show you all islands that give destruction for doing their quest

[vagrant swift]

helpful. ty.

[thorny pecan]

do i just upgrade my blue gear? or is there better gear to get

[hollow scroll]

you need to run oreha/argos at 1370

so for now keep honing until you reach that

[dreamy bluff]

one you reach 1370, you will unlock oreha and argos. clear these and buy the extra loot so you can craft your legendary gear pieces

also are you using the Hyper Express?

[thorny pecan]

what's that? sorry i haven't played the game since release haha

[gaunt heart]

what's a really good build for pve on deadeye

[dreamy bluff]

click it

best thing you can do as a new/returning player

[thorny pecan]

okay i seee

and i just want to keep ugrading these?

until 1370

[somber jewel]

Yes

Then look for a “free carry no bid” orehas hard mode, buy the boxes and get the set

[thorny pecan]

it becomes quite expensive for me, are these materials easy to get?

[dreamy bluff]

also please click on the event thing top left and use the hyper express. it gives you alot of free stuff so that you can get to 1445 fast. not using it is just bring pain to yourself for no reason

[somber jewel]

Don’t use those yet

[dreamy bluff]

it also increase your success rate while honing

and make things cheaper to hone too

[somber jewel]

Honing requires no gold up to 1445 now save all those for later

[amber spruce]

anyone jailed at valtan nm G2?

[somber jewel]

If you need some extra success, buy the honing books from the event vendor

There’s a set for 7-15 that give you a 10% boost

[dreamy bluff]

daily login event also gives them too(the books)

[thorny pecan]

okay

is there any easy way to gain the materials to hone besides the daily stuff? im kinda missing the guardian stones

[dreamy bluff]

you shouldnt really have to buy mats if your using the hyper express since it gives you all the mats you need for free to hone. unless you pity every singl gear pieces

[thorny pecan]

also is the event exclusive to 1 character?

[dreamy bluff]

yes. you can switch it to another character once at anytime but if you keep honing past 1415(+15) it will be locked to that character. the hyper express event give you free bonus hone% chance until 1445 as well as free mats needed to hone till 1445

[thorny pecan]

okay ty so much

[dreamy bluff]

the hyper express was made for low level characters so you get to most out of it by using it it while you are low geared

[thorny pecan]

how would i obtain this? it looks like the last thing i'll be missing

[somber jewel]

That’s from your stronghold

But yes you’ll get a lot from the event

[dreamy bluff]

you can buy it or craft it. hyper express also gives you a shit ton of it too

[outer mason]

hyper express gives Basic Oreha Fusion mats, but not Simple Oreha Fusion mats

[thorny pecan]

what about the "story express" anything worth in that?

[outer mason]

https://lostark.fandom.com/wiki/Hyper_Express_Plus_2

[dreamy bluff]

oh right. but if he takes the hyper express he will recieve the free legendary gear which he can transfer onto. which would mean he wouldnt even need to use the simple oreha fusions

[thorny pecan]

and that's at 1370? or what

[hollow scroll]

the legendary gear is 1340

[outer mason]

power pass* :p

[outer mason]

only works on fresh lvl 1 characters, you only do the continents story, and it gives all the gear needed, no honing necessary, up to south vern

[hollow scroll]

oh nvm thats right, pp and story express give 1340 gear not hyper express

you're supposed to use a story express or pp'd character with hyper express really not separate them

[thorny pecan]

maybe i'll do that then

was planning on going through story as arcanist since my friend is new to the game eitherway

[dreamy bluff]

oh right, i keep forgetting they were separate rewards

[thorny pecan]

also is arcanist a solid class? i was planning on making it my main

[somber jewel]

Yes

They’re all fine

[dreamy bluff]

its quite strong

[thorny pecan]

(sorry for all the questions hehe but thanks for all the answers)

[dreamy bluff]

no worries, this channel is for helping people either way

[thorny pecan]

my original plan was just to get my current strongest (1350) up to 1370 so i can start selling those materials and using it on my arcanist (new main)

or would that be a bad idea?

[somber jewel]

Selling what?

[hollow scroll]

just keep them and use on arcana instead of selling?

[somber jewel]

Go right to 1445

[thorny pecan]

okay

[somber jewel]

Don’t even bother trying to make gold, get to 1445 and start getting into valtan and vykas

[thorny pecan]

and was there a way where i can swap this to another character?

[dreamy bluff]

Hmm then I'd save the hyper express for the arcana then. Use the even power pass on arcana and just hone her to 1445.

[thorny pecan]

or am i too late

[dreamy bluff]

No u good

[hollow scroll]

you can swap once i believe

[dreamy bluff]

Click the little change event char

Button

[thorny pecan]

uuuuuu

oh wait nvm i see it

[hollow scroll]

but only if you haven't used the honing buffs at 1415 which i guess you haven't

[thorny pecan]

i swear i was looking for that button for the past 5 min ;-;

[dreamy bluff]

If you don't care about the current character just stop honing it and switch to ur arcana now and hone that

[thorny pecan]

yeah i really don't care about it anymore

[dreamy bluff]

Hyper express and power pass should give you all the mats u need, so no need for anything

[thorny pecan]

my arcana is still level 10 so i could just do all the story thingy

[devout cape]

As a complete noob is it worth it to buy the busses for the legion raids?

[somber jewel]

No

[dreamy bluff]

Use the power pass on her

Event powerpass

[hollow scroll]

never buy a nm bus

[somber jewel]

I can send you links to discords focused on learning

[devout cape]

Oo sweet

[outer mason]

Story express up to south vern is about 20 hours of questing
up to you

[thorny pecan]

that's fine i guess :p

can't leave my friend behind

he starts playing tomorrow so i'll just go with him

[dreamy bluff]

did you do all the quests in punnika? if you did bervers quest you should receive a free punikka powerpass. use that powerpass on your arcana

[hollow scroll]

start at the same time and do story dungeons together

[thorny pecan]

nonono because then i can't play with friend :D

[devout cape]

If you haven’t done it yet, I would do the story pass first. Tough it out. You’ll wish you had the event pass later when you inevitably want to try another class.

[dreamy bluff]

oh then yeah use story express then

[somber jewel]

Sent. Never bus the first two raids unless you have a good roster that’s generating a lot of gold.

And even by then you’ll be able to do them without a problem

[dreamy bluff]

the event powerpass expires btw. around the same time the story express event ends. its not a permanent powerpass

[thorny pecan]

i'll be leaving soon so i just need to get it straight so i don't say anything wrong to my friend :p
we'll use the story express and go up to 1340 and then we use the (other pass thingy) to go up to 1445?

[vivid kernel]

Hi can you sent me links too? I just hit 1445 with my min (first char) and i want to learn the raids.

[hollow scroll]

story express to 1340 > hyper express to 1445

[somber jewel]

Sent!

[dreamy bluff]

yea, do story express to southvern. you will get 1340 legendary gear. use hyper express on that character too. and hone up to 1445

[thorny pecan]

okay thank you

[somber jewel]

Once you hit 1445 I’d go right to 1460 for vykas hard

[thorny pecan]

since i claimed the 1340 already on my current character will i not be able to claim it on others? (i think i already asked this but i didn't quite understand :S)

[dreamy bluff]

ps, you CANT switch the story express to another character. so make sure you are doing it on the correct character. only hyper express let you switch character

[hollow scroll]

and dont use knowledge transfer no matter how much you hate yourself half way through

you'll brick the end rewards

[dreamy bluff]

you can switch hyper express once at any point before 1415

its their friends first time playing, they wont be able to knowledge transfer even if they wanted too

[hollow scroll]

ok?

[thorny pecan]

oh okay so when i swap it i won't get a "half claimed" pass i'll get a "brand new" or how should i phrase it

[vivid kernel]

so is it worth to upgrade Argos set to 1460?

[somber jewel]

Yes

[dreamy bluff]

if you switch, it will continue where you left off

[timber mauve]

You can safely upgrade the Argos set to +20 (1490).

[devout cape]

Do I swap my chosen set to argos?

[somber jewel]

There’s literally no reason to do a normal vykas or valtan honestly

[timber mauve]

Not worth it imo

[somber jewel]

Except maybe to learn the mechs?

[vivid kernel]

And then what set i should focus to get for striker?

[timber mauve]

Better off trading the Argos blood for leaps.

[thorny pecan]

so the 1340 reward i claimed is gone

[dreamy bluff]

so if you claim reward for 1350 then switch, you wont recieve 1350 rewards again because you already claimed it on another character @thorny pecan

[devout cape]

Awesome Ty

[dreamy bluff]

but you will recieve all the rewards after that. u will only not get the 1350 one

some of the 1340 rewards are roster bound(i think). that means you can add the unopen roster chest to your roster storage and claim it on another character

[somber jewel]

If you absolutely want Argos just get two pieces for the bonus then the rest is oreha

[vivid kernel]

I got this just like that

[somber jewel]

But you don’t need it. The priority is your relic set

[vivid kernel]

Yes and which relic set is to go for me?

[dreamy bluff]

entropy

[somber jewel]

Depends on your build what class

[dreamy bluff]

all the striker builds uses Entropy set

according to the guide

[somber jewel]

There you go then

[dreamy bluff]

dont craft anything that is not entropy

[somber jewel]

So between 1445 and 1490 there’s changes. The relic set, relic conversion, and three legion raids

[vivid kernel]

Striker. But ppl said to me that if striker is my first char and i dont have build alts and dont have gold, then it will be easier for me to go Esoteric Fury rather than Deathblow. So for now im using The Event Engreving Preset 4x3 but i should build 4x3 or 5x3 on my own. I have 12k gold from event and around 85 chest with accesories to select what build is easier for me to build?

[somber jewel]

Fury is swift I believe

Swift builds are cheap

[dreamy laurel]

how do i fix this stupidity ?

[outer mason]

Esoteric Fury is cheaper to build than Deathblow for sure
requires less runes and stuff

[dreamy bluff]

use the 4x3 event thing

[dreamy laurel]

dced and now 4 ~5 hours later it's still the same

[dreamy bluff]

you can worry about 5x3 when you are 1475+. before then the free 4x3 works just fine

[outer mason]

check mail, you should get a restoration ticket, either instantly or 24 hours later..

[somber jewel]

You have until June to get 4x3 save up for 5x3 since you’ll probably want grudge

And leg grudges is expensive

[dreamy bluff]

look at what class build u want to go and what engraving you want. for some classes, grudes pieces are expensive while some build can have really cheap grudge depending on how you build your engravings

[vivid kernel]

I want to play Deathblow from the start but as my first character i dont have enough money to build it properly. With event suff i can get 4x3 Deathblow but is it worth it?

[somber jewel]

Yes

[vivid kernel]

I still dont have grudge and Deathblow x12 so..

[somber jewel]

All set worth it

Are*

[dreamy bluff]

just use 4x3 deathblow for now then. who knows you might get lucky and get some really good pieces drop for you and save alot of gold

[vivid kernel]

Good pieces you mean accesories ?

[dreamy bluff]

ya

if the accs that was suppose to be insanly expensive drop for you then thats 100k gold saved and the build now becomes really cheap to make instead of expensive

[vivid kernel]

Ok so what would you say i should priority select from the event relic chest? I have 85 of them

I can select neck rings and earings

but all stats are random

the most expensive accesory ? is it Neck or earings ?

[dreamy bluff]

you want spec rings, spec earings and crit/spec neckless, so keep opening them all until you have good quality for all 5 accs

[lavish grove]

The Ultimate Striker Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Striker class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

​

Striker Community Guide

This information was created by community members · Apr 4, 2023, 9:46 PM

[vivid kernel]

Thx for the link i never saw that

[maiden locust]

I carved 8 grudge 6 awakening 1 attack power reduction on legendary stone

How good is it considered to be?

[dreamy bluff]

its good but does Arcana use awakening? if not then the stone isnt good

[somber jewel]

I want to say that can get you 5x3

[maiden locust]

I carved for wardancer

[dreamy bluff]

oh i guess its good then

[maiden locust]

What's the difference between it on relic vs legendary? Just less vitality?

[dreamy bluff]

yes

mostly

i think you can upgrade from relic to anciant later on but not 100% sure

[pseudo atlas]

relic stones have 1 more facet node

[dreamy bluff]

but most people dont use legendary stones at endgame because health is very important. it can decide what boss hit will insta kill you from full hp and just tickle you

[maiden locust]

How difficult is it to carve a 86 in general? All I see is 97

[shut pasture]

Easier than carving 9/7

[thorny pecan]

thanks for all the help earlier ^^ i'll be leaving now, adios!

[dreamy bluff]

9/7 is overkill and used when people are trying to min/max their engraving. 8/6 is not that rare/hard. but its rng in the end

[shut pasture]

9/7 isn't overkill, its just ideal to get your full engraving kit and even 6x3+1 later on

Its just if you don't have 9/7 don't freak out

[somber jewel]

9/7 lets you use epic engravings

[dreamy bluff]

majority of players (95%+) arent using 9/7 stones so dont worry about that

[shut pasture]

Precisely

[maiden locust]

Okay thanks so 86 can happen often enough as I continue to carve?

[dreamy bluff]

if you have good rng

[rose jewel]

never chase a 9/7

[shut pasture]

Ehh not "often enough"

Its RNG

[rose jewel]

unless youre willing to spend thousands

[shut pasture]

You just gotta try your luck

[rose jewel]

and thousands

unless youre minmaxing your build, 9/7 is not needed at all

[maiden locust]

Okay got it ty

[dreamy bluff]

you have a 0.07% chance of getting a 9/7 stone or 1 out of 700+ stones

unless you are made of gold/pheons, dont ever go for it

[somber jewel]

It’s more the pheons than the gold tbh (I know you can buy pheons with gold)

[dreamy bluff]

depens on the stones too. some stone might be a little cheap but alof of the good stones are hella expensive in gold

[neat leaf]

do u have to be 1490 to get rewards for rowen field boss?

[dreamy bluff]

not technically but its the recomanded level i believe

[neat leaf]

so if im 1475 its much more worth farming rowen than south vern?

[vivid kernel]

One more question guys i have to write it down. When I hit 1445 with the event, should i push the gear i have ( from Argos) to higher lvl or should i try to get relic gear and transfer and then push it higher?

[radiant flame]

no

you cant even use the honing mats from rowen boss

[neat leaf]

well i dont need the mats

i mean for om star

[radiant flame]

sure

[somber jewel]

Push it 1460 or higher

[dreamy bluff]

just like all the other bosses. if you are under the recommended level, then you have a high chance of not hitting the boss. being 1490 means 100% accuracy to hit the boss. being lower then that mean lower accuracy and your hit might not do damage to the boss

[neat leaf]

think i need to be in party for rewards or am i ok

[radiant flame]

doesnt matter

you just need to do damage

[neat leaf]

ah ok thought it was a dmg threshold

[pseudo atlas]

it's a contribution threshold, party helps

[dreamy bluff]

legendary transfer 1 to 1 when you make relic. you can can hone it as much as you want. the only difference from legendary to relic honing is that legendary can only go up to +20 while relic can go up to +25

[vivid kernel]

So if i have legendary +18 I can transfer and get +18 relic ?

[dreamy bluff]

yes

[vivid kernel]

ooook

[dreamy bluff]

if you transfer +18 legendary, you get +18 relic. if you transfer +20 legendary, you get +20 relic

[vivid kernel]

ok i see the picture

[dreamy bluff]

the materials cost for honing is also the same for both

so you dont save anything by not honing and waiting for relic

[somber jewel]

If you want get 1472.5 so you can still get gold from Argos

[unkempt geyser]

1472.50 not even worth anymore

1k gold sucks

[somber jewel]

It’s better than nothing until you clear v&v reliably

[unkempt geyser]

i think pushing to 1490 n learning brel is better idea

i think

but thats if you have the resources, but idk whats going on i just kinda jumped in mid convo

[somber jewel]

Yeah first character

[unkempt geyser]

if its your first char 1472.50 is fine

learn vykas hm and valtan hm

[somber jewel]

May take some time to get to clearing reliably

[snow glacier]

im lost

wats going on?

[dreamy bluff]

only thing to keep in mind is that you can gear transfer a legendary on a relic and a relic to an upper relic(brelshaza normal). but you cannot go from legendary straight to upper relic. you need to make a relic first before you can trasnfer into a upper relic (brealshaza normal)

u unlock upper relic gear crafting at 1490(+20)

[unkempt geyser]

which lower relic now only takes 2 clears of both hm valtan and hm vykas

[dreamy bluff]

and relic crafting at 1445(+17)

[snow glacier]

any tips on leveling an alt, my main is 1450 tryna get my alt to tier 3 so I can get more income

currently at tier 2

[unkempt geyser]

focus on main getting to 1460 then work on alt

[dreamy bluff]

did you use your event powerpass yet?

[snow glacier]

yeh on my main its currently at 1450

[somber jewel]

Finish Punika and pp someone

[snow glacier]

PP?

party pick?

[unkempt geyser]

power pass

[snow glacier]

or powerpass, I only got 1 left rn

[dreamy bluff]

you get a free punikka powerpass if you did the bervers friend quest line in punikka

[snow glacier]

i did im also a founder so i believe i got an extra one from that.

rn my 1450 is kinda just stuck there until next week

[dreamy bluff]

founder gets a punnika pass?

[snow glacier]

no a power pass

[dreamy bluff]

vern?

[snow glacier]

i havent used the vern one yet.

just the founders one.

if i got one i used it when LA came to NA

after hitting t3

[somber jewel]

Oh yeah have yall been keeping your stronghold leveled?

[dreamy bluff]

oh. i never knew founders get a free punikka powerpass

[snow glacier]

its almost level 30 rn

[dreamy bluff]

as long as you can craft the things you want/need to craft you good

[somber jewel]

I was asking the newbies because of the honing buffs

[dreamy bluff]

hard brel only has a item level requirement. 1540 for g1-2, 1550 for 3-4 and 1560 for 5-6

u get a new chaos at 1540 and another at 1560 i think. new guardian also at 1540

if you think you can hone to those high levels without it then good lock. its gonna be hella expensive

you probably gonna have to +20 the few brel gears you already have if you want to hit 1560 without full set

chaos dungeons and and legion has always been story locked.

[shut pasture]

You were right to check because yes that is bullshit

[dreamy bluff]

they probably wanted u to max bid on chest bid and milk u dry

[shut pasture]

Whoever told you that was either trying to mess with you...or has no idea what they are talking about

[snow glacier]

how DO i get to ilvl 1560?

if my gear only goes to +20

[shut pasture]

Brel Relic set.

[snow glacier]

only that way?

[dreamy bluff]

brel gear

[unkempt geyser]

legendary gear>lower relic gear>upper relic

[dreamy bluff]

yea

[snow glacier]

theres UPPER relic?

[shut pasture]

Yes

[unkempt geyser]

upper relic is the brel gear

[snow glacier]

when does NA catch up to korea then? or are we caught up now?

[dreamy bluff]

then someone lied to him

[unkempt geyser]

wont be for awhile

[pseudo atlas]

maybe they just assumed there was something like how you need all lower relic gear on a character to unlock brel relic crafting for the roster

[snow glacier]

i heard on release for lost ark we were behind by a year or 2 from korea/

[unkempt geyser]

i guess there is plans to get caught up within this year tho

[pseudo atlas]

is even that much true though

[dreamy bluff]

dont think u need that to craft it either

[snow glacier]

ok so when does the naming go from "ancient = best" to "artisan=best"?

[pseudo atlas]

yes that much is true

[shut pasture]

Well normal Relic can go to +25 which is 1575, but normal Relic has a base ilvl of 1340, same as Legendary gear. Brel Relic however has a base ilvl of 1390 so when you transfer +20 relic into it you get Brel Relic at +12

[snow glacier]

so +25 brel gear can go even further beyond?

[unkempt geyser]

na

stops at +20

[pseudo atlas]

you do need a full set of 6 brel gear to craft ancient gear from brel hard, and it's an achievement so it's probably the same way the achievement works for lower relic to upper relic

[snow glacier]

oh thats dumb.

[shut pasture]

Its still higher ilvl.

[dreamy bluff]

breal gear go to +20. breal hard gear go to +25. brel gear converts your +20 relic into +12 brel

[snow glacier]

so we can go even further beyond

sweet

[pseudo atlas]

all achievements are roster

[shut pasture]

+20 Brel Relic is 1590 ilvl

Which is our max ilvl atm

[snow glacier]

wait shado said brel hard goes up to +25

[pseudo atlas]

yes that sounds like what is required

[snow glacier]

so you can go even higher than 1590?

[pseudo atlas]

but that is different than required for chaos dungeon and other content

[shut pasture]

With Ancient gear

Which we don't have yet, but will in a week

[dreamy bluff]

akkan hard is 1600 so yes its possible to go higher when brel hard comes out

[snow glacier]

ohhhh

oh its not out yet

but soon ™

[dreamy bluff]

their are people in korea with 1650 i think and i dont see it stopping soon

[unkempt geyser]

cant wait to see the rmters go to 1600+ within the first week

LOL

[snow glacier]

how much gold will that even cost??

[dreamy bluff]

way too much

[unkempt geyser]

^

[shut pasture]

1650 is whale territory.

[snow glacier]

i saw u can buy 200k for 50$ so if u make 60k a year, you can spend 250$ and get a million gold...

[shut pasture]

Also Ester weapon kinda required

[amber totem]

2k usd to get all level 10 gems

Ridiculous

[dreamy bluff]

hardest content in korea only need 1620 though(i think) so those 1650s are pure overkill just wanting to flex or addicted to honing gamba

[snow glacier]

2000$?!?!

[amber totem]

Gems can't buy skill

[snow glacier]

WAT

wait how much are lvl 10 gems?

[amber totem]

500k?

[unkempt geyser]

200-400k for cd

[shut pasture]

A lot.

[unkempt geyser]

500+ for dps

[snow glacier]

damn that would be 2000$

[amber totem]

Not even worth it

[shut pasture]

However lvl 10 gems are not a mandatory requirement to successfully do content

They are a nice bonus, but are not mandatory

[amber totem]

Level 7s are fine, level 9s are better but level 10 is for day 1 players or whales

[shut pasture]

I have to throw in the stipulation because people get silly ideas in their heads

[dreamy bluff]

mmos will always have ways to unlimitredly whale your way up. you can spend 200k usd and still not be at the top

[snow glacier]

im just tryan get a conssitent income outside raids...

[amber totem]

there isn't many good ways to do so

[amber totem]

investing into alts and bringing them up so they can do raids is the best way to make longterm gold

[unkempt geyser]

^

6x 1460's nets 50k gold a week

[amber totem]

You get 6 x 3 raids, you get drops from each of them, you get books from each of them, etc

Not to mention the unbounds from guardians x 6 can be sold

[unkempt geyser]

^

[shut pasture]

Hence why if you ever see people gatekeeping based on silly shit like lvl 10 gems, LoS30 and such...avoid them, they are being absolutely nonsensical

[dreamy bluff]

i dont have a lvl10 gems and dont think i ever will. dps i nice but i have other places i can put my gold. if your party need lvl10 gems to clear a content. their is an issue there. a big issue

[maiden locust]

Is there in game party voice chat?

[dreamy bluff]

there is but no one uses it

[unkempt geyser]

yea

why use it when you can use discord

[silver mirage]

that chart is misleading tbh

[dreamy bluff]

and from what i hear the quality is not that good

[silver mirage]

some classes definitely want 10s

[unkempt geyser]

depends

if your a scouter/sh

yea

barrage arti

yea

[silver mirage]

like ur prob trolling pretty hard by not going a 10 dmg surge gem

[unkempt geyser]

but like a normal 12 gem'd dps

na

[silver mirage]

for either spec

[amber totem]

lol

[shut pasture]

But thats a different issue...

[amber totem]

wtf

Level 9 surge is fine

[silver mirage]

dmg gems are not linear

[amber totem]

Im not sacrificing all the gems I have for a single surge gem

[shut pasture]

Like thats "the class needs adjustments" issue

Like stuff we know should be addressed

[silver mirage]

the diff between 9 and 10 is 30% dmg to 40% dmg

[shut pasture]

But I still would not suggest to break your fucking back getting a lvl 10 gem

[silver mirage]

it's literally a 5.5% dmg increase for surge

[shut pasture]

Even in those cases

[silver mirage]

5.5% dmg increase is absolutely massive

[dreamy bluff]

here is the full chart. i cropped it. different classes have different point where they can stop

[weak lion]

can you trade Cube tickets between roster characters?

[buoyant herald]

its also 100k vs 600k gold XD

[shut pasture]

I am not disputing that...

Not the point, though

[dreamy bluff]

no

[unkempt geyser]

i mean that 5.5% is only good, if you know how to play the class aswell.

[amber totem]

If you're playing Surge you should be hitting surge I guess. But level 10 gem is a long term goal

[shut pasture]

Because you say shit like that to this community, an MMORPG community in the west and you get people frothing at the mouth about it trying to get them

[unkempt geyser]

500k and not know how to use surge properly, or 100k and learn

[amber totem]

Theres much better things to spend gold on then a single level 10 gem

[shut pasture]

And they end up breaking their brains

[silver mirage]

its better to all in ur gems on surge

even if it looks bad

mathematically, it's the play

[unkempt geyser]

honestly

still dont think its worth

400k can build a new char

lol

[dreamy bluff]

just because you get the most dps out of it doesnt mean it required

its just a really nice bonus

[silver mirage]

how many 7's is a 10

[amber totem]

I mean my DB is 1531, mostly level 7 gems, most tripods are level 4. No luck with 5 now. LWC 12, no LOS yet. A surge gem isnt going to push me into cruel fighter.

[silver mirage]

27 7's for a 10?

smoge

[amber totem]

In the meantime id much rather bring my roster up

[unkempt geyser]

yea

5% dps increase doesnt matter to me

if it was like 100k diff maybe

but its literally 500-600k diff

[amber totem]

My guildies are 1560, level 20 weapons, los 30

surge gem aint mean shit

[silver mirage]

5% is pretty big

[shut pasture]

Roughly 350k gold for one lvl 10, yes, based on NAE prices.

[amber totem]

You're correct, mathematically

But the gold is better spent elsewhere

[shut pasture]

Yes it is, that does not make it mandatory to clear content or do damage

[unkempt geyser]

yea

[silver mirage]

i think u vastly underestimate how difficult it is to get 5% more damage

[amber totem]

When you have a full brel roster maybe you can save for it

[shut pasture]

No one is disputing any of that. Not the point.

[unkempt geyser]

this guy probably rmts

kekw

[silver mirage]

?

what

[amber totem]

An *average * player earns like 80k gold a week in total.

thats 18 raids

less now I guess with argos and valtan nerf

[dreamy bluff]

you get a lvl10 gem because you want it. you dont need a lvl10 gem

[somber jewel]

That’s not even average

Average is like 2 or 3

[amber totem]

What we are saying is why would we save for what, 6 weeks with a full roster for a single gem

No honing, no nothing

[silver mirage]

i don't think gems are worth buying but it is something you should keep in mind

[amber totem]

100%

[silver mirage]

when you're spreading ur gems out

[amber totem]

I want a level 10 surge gem badly

[shut pasture]

Even if its a big damage increase...it is not mandatory and your entire income is basically going towards it.

[amber totem]

But its a long term goal

[silver mirage]

I have 8 db

[unkempt geyser]

thats different then

[silver mirage]

so i get to hard funnel my gems

[dreamy bluff]

80k that would mean all 6 are doing 6 brels per week right? dont think the average player does or even want to do that

[unkempt geyser]

lvl 10 surge gem on some one that has a multi class roster

[silver mirage]

nah brel gold is front loaded

even if u don't do all 1-6

just doing like 1-4

or 1-2 is significant gold

[somber jewel]

Most people don’t bother with g 5 and 6

[unkempt geyser]

1-2 is like what 4k?

1-4 is 7-8k?

i think

[weak lion]

does tooki change location each spawn or each day

it was up north earlier

[faint pagoda]

yes

[shut pasture]

Its random

[pseudo atlas]

each spawn

[amber totem]

brel 1-4 x 6, clown x 6, vykas x 6

[dreamy bluff]

yes it has 4 places it can spwn. it changes every spawn

[unkempt geyser]

clown

[somber jewel]

Most people skip clown too

[amber totem]

yep

[silver mirage]

1-2 is 4k
1-4 is 5.5k
1-6 is 8k

[unkempt geyser]

i do

[amber totem]

Pugging clown is rough

[somber jewel]

So vykas hm and Brel 1-4

[silver mirage]

i would prioritize clown as the best raid to run if you're trying to min max gold

[unkempt geyser]

i rather just do hm valtan and lose the 1.5k over the stress of randos in g3 clown

:)

[amber totem]

I agree. Its fine in our guild statics, we do support swaps over 6 clowns

[silver mirage]

4 way splits is lucrative af

[somber jewel]

Yeah I think most do valtan it’s less gold but it’s still gold

[amber totem]

I cant imagine the pain from pugging clown though

[silver mirage]

what u mean

i pug 6 clowns a week

it's great

[amber totem]

Unlucky

[dreamy bluff]

clown can be a trap but most people pugs all the raid in this game

[silver mirage]

juicer lobbies are getting more common too

[amber totem]

Its fine if you have juiced up roster I guess.

[silver mirage]

more and more common to skip m4

very poggers

[amber totem]

Majority of my roster just tapping to clown now

Most of our runs have hella juicers though and M4 is rare

[silver mirage]

i think clown really comes down to having a solid m3 player

[weak lion]

whats the difference between area and normal chat

[silver mirage]

because apparently that mario is the bane of pf

[lavish grove]

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[minor steeple]

Ok, I have been seen videos and I need to clarify some questions.
So when crafting Relic Gear for example "Swamp of Yearning" for my Artist as recommended in MaxRoll Guide, people refers to the Headpiece as "Valtan Gear" because it is crafted with Valtan materials right? Same for Vykas gear right I suppose.

Now I saw people talking about the honning on Brelshaza gear. It is "Brelshaza Gear" because it is crafted with Brelshaza materials right?

[amber totem]

Every time I go into clown lobby, all the pug lobbies looking for M3 lol

[silver mirage]

yes

[dreamy bluff]

mario 3 was only hard for me the first time i did it. i find m4 more annoying even though its simpler

[amber totem]

valtan/vykas mats for relic set, brel horns for brel gear

[minor steeple]

Ok got it! Ty!

[amber totem]

also check the community guides for your class

[lavish grove]

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[silver mirage]

area is larger
say you're in yorn, great castle
normal chat only covers that map
area chat covers all of yorn

[amber totem]

M4 easy af for widescreen enjoyers

[weak lion]

so area chat in the sea would be most of the sea right

i see ppl asking for tooki a lot in area

[amber totem]

yeah on the sea type in area

[dreamy bluff]

ya, valtan and vykas mats are for relic, Brel normal mats is for Upper Relic, Brel hard mats for Anciant

[minor steeple]

What should be my process now?
I should craft 1340 Relic Gear and then lvl it up to +20. After that I transfer that 1340 Gear +20 to Brelshaza Gear transforming into +12 Gear but with the same power lvl right?

[dreamy bluff]

dont forget about gear transfer

[minor steeple]

Yeah when I say transfer Im refering to gear transfer

[silver mirage]

yea area chat for the seas only has 2
Giernah and Porcoyon

[dreamy bluff]

ok but when you said make 1340 and hone to +20 it sounded like you wanted to hone from 1340(+7) to +20

[eternal fern]

at what level can you go into trixion and mess around with everything from ur character in terms of stats and stuff?

[dreamy bluff]

after luterra quest i believe since thats when u use the song the first time

[shut pasture]

level 30

[eternal fern]

damm

[hallow compass]

i havent played in awhile and im super low ilevel compared to whats current i guess, im having a hard time finding groups for guardian raids and stuff...will chaos dungeons give me the mats i need to work my item level up to 1300+ or whatever ilevel i need to see other actual people?

[minor steeple]

Ok, lets see. Im returning to the game and I was never this far before.
So right now I'm with Chosen Gear from the Punika Pass and its already +17.

Now, my next Gear would be a 1340 Valtan/Vykas right?

[hallow compass]

or do i just sit in guardian raid queues for 30+ min lol

[dreamy bluff]

but yea, you make legendary then transfer that unto a Relic then transfer that unto an Upper Relic and transfer that unto Anciant, then transfer that into Akkan

[silver mirage]

old guardians are dead content

especially now that you don't even need to clear them to do later ones

anything before deskaluda should be considered dead content

[amber totem]

dont do this

[hallow compass]

so just with chaos dungeons ill b able to catch up then?

[silver mirage]

yea

[hallow compass]

ok cool, thanks

[silver mirage]

send a dispatch for guardian raids

[dreamy bluff]

not enough people in T1 or T2 area. most people are at 1370+ so anything before that have close to noone doing those content

[silver mirage]

so u don't overstack rested

[hallow compass]

tryin to remember everything now, but theres a lot more stuff now then the last time i played lol

[eternal fern]

i guess i just level to 30 instead of KT anyway just to not waste gold i guess

[dreamy bluff]

that is an option. u can also use the express story, not sure how many hours it takes to get to lvl30though

[slate elk]

can i transfer some items between my characters?

[dreamy bluff]

its they are roster bound yes

[eternal fern]

i already did both my story and hyper express

[silk tinsel]

does anyone know how many wings are in a Vykas gate 1 box ? 🙂

[eternal fern]

im just looking what alts are intresting to play

[amber totem]

are you following the island guide?

[slate elk]

how exactly?

[amber totem]

https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/resources/road-to-rohendel

this guide gets you to T3 ASAP so you can play with others

[shut pasture]

Roster storage

It will say on the item if it is roster bound

[hallow compass]

no i dont think so, just been tryin to raise my ilevel so i can finish the main story and get to content with other people lol

[dreamy bluff]

. bound to roster can be put in your roster storage . you then login on your other character and take it out of your roster storage

bound means its locked to the character that its on. roster means you can transfer it into your roster storage

[amber totem]

yeah go into that guide, it will help you a lot. It gives a route to raise ilvl the fastest

[hallow compass]

nice ill go google it now thanks

[amber totem]

follow this link : https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/resources/road-to-rohendel

[hallow compass]

o cool ty

[dreamy bluff]

the link says rohendel but it was later updated to punikka. just ignore the rohendel part @hallow compass

[hallow compass]

word thanks dudes

[minor steeple]

Still have some questions.
Sorry for bothering so much.

Ok, lets see. Im returning to the game and I was never this far before.
So right now I'm with Chosen Gear from the Punika Pass and its already +17.

After putting my current gear at +20, my next set of Gear would be a 1340 Valtan/Vykas right?

[eternal fern]

does anyone want to make a suggestion for what i should try for an alt? currently have a destroyer who's more slow gameplay i find pretty enjoyable

[faint pagoda]

scrapper on shock is slow and hard hitting , on tai its super fast pewpewpew

[dreamy bluff]

you can craft the Valtan/Vykas relic set as early as 1445(+17) as long as you have to mats

[amber totem]

Plus 20 is much higher than that. +20 on all gear is 1490.

[dreamy bluff]

the chosen gear can go up to maximum +20 but that doesnt mean its required to go to +20 on your chosen gear

[amber totem]

You should do Valtan and vykas as soon as available for the mats

[minor steeple]

Ok got it!
So after finishing my 1340 Valtan/Vykas set, I should evolve him to +20 right?

Saw something about evolving 1 to +19 and 1 to +21 usually the weapon

[neat leaf]

play full swiftness hunger reaper 😉

much fun

[eternal fern]

i was actually going to try that out as my first choice

[neat leaf]

community guide suggests not doing full swift but its much more enjoyable and if ur good it dont matter

[somber jewel]

Make sure it’s the relic set and not the legendary set

[minor steeple]

Im going here to see the set

[minor steeple]

This right?

[somber jewel]

Yes

It should say relic on it

[minor steeple]

Yeah

[dreamy bluff]

@minor steeple here is the actual order that each boss gives.
1370: can craft legendary gear. can now hone up to maximum +20
1445(+17): can craft relic set with Valtan/Vykas mats. can now hone up to maximum +25
1475(+19): can increase the set bonus from +1 to +2 with Clown mats. your set bonus is now stronger
1490(+20): your +20 gear can gear transfer into +12 Brel. can now hone up to maximum +20
1540(+15): can transfer into relic. can now hone up to maximum +25

[somber jewel]

Do people even bother to +2 relic?

Or just go straight to Brel?

[vale spire]

level 2 relic transfers to brel

[dreamy bluff]

its more damage. they gonna have to do it either way even if they skipped it

[vale spire]

You can't get level 2 set without doing clown

[dreamy bluff]

people skipped it because they wanted to do brel and get the set bonus so they did Vykas/Valtan and Brel. you can only do 3 legion per week

[pseudo atlas]

newer players nowaday go to brel and then come back to clown

[somber jewel]

Got it

[minor steeple]

ty so much and sry for bothering u ❤️

[vale spire]

If you go into brel normal without some level 2 set you might get gatekept

[buoyant herald]

just dont pug it

idk how ppl even play without a guild

i would have jumped off something tall alr

[somber jewel]

Well a guild or a discord community

[buoyant herald]

yeah

[vale spire]

pugging isn't that bad if everyone has phantom

[buoyant herald]

its just as bad as if they didnt

titles mean nothing

[dreamy bluff]

if you apply to a group that look like they might trap you, you probably gonna get trapped. if you join a group where everyone is properly geared. then your chances of getting trapped is extremly low. been pogging brel since day 1 and i think i only got into 1-3 traps so far

[vale spire]

I pug my alts and I don't get jailed

[somber jewel]

If everyone has level 10 gems, level 5 tripods, and 5x3+2, and is 1560 pugging is fine

[dreamy bluff]

and that is acroos 3 characters

[vale spire]

I just did a pug on my bard last night that skipped m4

[buoyant herald]

i pugged clown on my fresh 75 alt this week
joined all plc parties took like 4 hours to clear g3 XDDD

skipping m4 is easy if everyone is like 1520

[somber jewel]

When should you realistically go for 5x3? 1490+?

Pre-Brel?

[dreamy bluff]

ive pretty much pugged every raid in the game when they release. even learning runs. some people are just really unlucky

[vale spire]

You should get 5x3 before getting 1490 imo

[dreamy bluff]

while most are just fine

ive also never jailed in clown either since release

[buoyant herald]

you arent gonna do brel without 5x3
even clown you arent gonna find any parties without 5x3 if you wana pug

[buoyant herald]

was my first time pugging it ever and was the wost experience ever XD never again

[somber jewel]

Nah my guild is clowning they’re fine with 4x3

[buoyant herald]

yeah guild

[vale spire]

If that's your main and you're building a roster you should get 5x3 asap

with a clown static just use the money from your three legions to get your accessories, books, and stone

[weak lion]

do you have to have a group to get the island soul for Death Hold island?

[vale spire]

if you can get a brel static then you can push to 1490 but it sounds like you don't have one

Brel is clearable with 4x3

[shut pasture]

Thats because you don't need 5x3 for Clown...again gatekeepers are just weird

[somber jewel]

They want 5x3 for Brel

[idle knoll]

Can you please tell me, I have a stim autifikator and $ 5 still can not trade ?

[vale spire]

then yah get 5x3 asap

before pushing

[sly drum]

IS the maxroll website a good guide for reaper?

[buoyant herald]

you need at least like 5 ppl on the island to finish the event in time you dont need your own party

[somber jewel]

Do you even need 5X3 for Brel? I know people expect it but does the fight actually require it?

[dreamy bluff]

/reaper

[vale spire]

use the community guide

[vale spire]

No it doesn't

[lavish grove]

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[shut pasture]

@sly drum

[buoyant herald]

dont think any fight in the game is gonna require that

[sly drum]

thank you

[shut pasture]

Akkan....maybe

[weak lion]

ok so i cant get the island soul on my own

[shut pasture]

But by Akkan its easier to get 5x3 anyway sooooo

[buoyant herald]

if you are alone on the island yeah no 😄

[near cove]

5x3 sorta just shows that hey this guy is willing to put effort in he prob knows what he is doing

[somber jewel]

Or swipes

[shut pasture]

Or they swiped.

[near cove]

• helps with speed of clear

[shut pasture]

It tells nothing lol

[near cove]

roster lvl always has a contradiction when that happens ofc

[somber jewel]

Roster level just means you probably got the skill points

[buoyant herald]

well yeah but i'd rather have a noob with 5x3 than a noob with 4x3 for pugging you p much need 5x3 imo
if you have a group you can cheap out but 5x3 is not that hard

[weak lion]

can i do Spida or Alakkir island soul on my own?

ppl seem to look for those though

[buoyant herald]

spida no

alakkir idk probably no too 😄

[shy hamlet]

What's the diffrence between rehersal Porkel and normal Porkel?

[vale spire]

rehersal is 1460 normal is 1490

[shut pasture]

Gatekeepers are just weird I'm sorry. I'll use this example from WoW Dragonflight's release; People almost immediately began gatekeeping Mythic 0 dungeons requiring ilvls higher than you could achieve even doing Heroic dungeons. Only way you could do it was to cheese rare spawns and other shit.

What does that prove? Oh they camped a few spawns?

[shy hamlet]

Obviously but is there any other difference besides hp and dmg?

[vale spire]

lol attack patterns are different too

[somber jewel]

This is why I like XIV’s ultimate design. You’re level ilvl locked. No way you can cheese it

[weak lion]

you think they'd scale these island quests now stuff isnt new anymore

[somber jewel]

/shrug ask in area or guild there’s also discs for horizontal content

But afaik KR just starts in tier 3 so they should scale the islands

[buoyant herald]

fuk wow
back to lost ark
explain please why would i pick some pleb with 4x3 if i have 20 (also probably plebs ) but who have 5x3 applying at the same time in what world would i want the cheap pleb over pleb with more gold invested in his char

[silver mirage]

There's no reason to pick 4x3 players when the standard is 5x3 and there's plenty of them to pick from

[faint pagoda]

i think theres a difference in "gatekeeping" and choosing someone thats just better geared

[buoyant herald]

yeah

[silver mirage]

Like why would you opt to choose a lesser geared player

[shut pasture]

Well I should clarify, overall if groups have reasonable requirements to join, whatever, won't dispute that. Not the issue. The gatekeeping I'm talking about is the unreasonable and also the expectation or assertion that these unreasonable requirements are mandatory to do the content.

[silver mirage]

It's not like 5x3 is so rare that you'd have to wait a long time

[buoyant herald]

how is 5x3 not reasonable at clown or even brel level tho

[vale spire]

tbh I don't see lost ark raid groups ask for anything unreasonable

[shut pasture]

At Brel fine, at Clown...ehh

[lavish grove]

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Artist Community Guide

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[silver mirage]

i don't take anyone under 1520 for clown lel

i'm not looking to do mario 4

[buoyant herald]

yeah same

i always pick m4

and then skip that

[silver mirage]

if i make a pf

and i get a JUICED player

i'll even go as high as like 1540

no maze allowed

bring atropines

[buoyant herald]

[silver mirage]

i'm not trying to be a gatekeeper or exclusionary

[vale spire]

1590 all level 10 gems only pls. I don't want to do m3

[silver mirage]

i just don't see a reason why i'd want to bring lesser geared people

when there are like 5+ people applying with better gear

[vale spire]

I will bring a lower gear person if it's good party synergy

but not extremely low

[silver mirage]

synergy doesn't matter imo

i rarely see any high level wardancers anyway

i wish they were more popular

[vale spire]

wardancers aren't the only class with synergy lmfao

[buoyant herald]

synergy is king imo

[silver mirage]

i'd rather bring 3 juiced blades

than try to get an optimal party comp

[buoyant herald]

if im on blade i'd knock like 40-50 ilvls for a gl

[vale spire]

^

[silver mirage]

in my experience is just better to stack juice

[vale spire]

20 ilvl for crit synergy

[silver mirage]

if ur goal is to secure that skip

[buoyant herald]

i am the juice

[silver mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/new-cool-juice-minecraft-the-gif-24805070

i'm napkin mathing it but i don't think a 1500 gl would beat a 1520 blade even with the synergy

[faint pagoda]

would be more comfy to play with tho

[buoyant herald]

it most likely would if im also a blade

[lavish grove]

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Gunlancer Community Guide

This information was created by community members · Apr 4, 2023, 11:41 PM

[silver mirage]

i actually prefer less shields in clown

on the off chance hp flip comes up

[pseudo atlas]

you're free to make whatever parties you want but i don't see what the point of saying "i'm not gatekeeping or anything buuuuuut" is

[silver mirage]

it's not like i take damage in there anyway

[buoyant herald]

how are you concerned with flip if ur skipping m4

[silver mirage]

i live with long term ptsd

from my early prog days

[buoyant herald]

its not that bad

[vale spire]

I mean on my lone knight gl I do about 70m every 30 seconds. then on top of that the blade on my team would get an additional 11% attack

[buoyant herald]

really nice to heal up

[silver mirage]

is it 11%?

bash + shout?

[vale spire]

yah

they nerfed it

used to be 15

[silver mirage]

it's 12% isn't it

but kinda smoge uptime

[vale spire]

shout is 5 bash is 6

bash is 100% uptime

shout is every 25 seconds~

about the same timing as a surge

[thin token]

with ancient acessory and a 9/7 stone its possible to get 5x3 + 2 but you need every acessory to be 6/3?

[silver mirage]

yes

[vale spire]

yup

and two gold books

[near cove]

• if you are willing to spend millions 😂

[silver mirage]

if ur spec is below 1800 delete ur blade

[thin token]

I almost had a 9/7 so im just looking ahead to see how to do it if i actually even had gotten one lol

[silver mirage]

10/6 also works

but you'd want the +2 on the 10

instead of on the 7

[thin token]

but idk wen i run the numbers im not getting 5x3+2 lol always short

[silver mirage]

ur prob not doing it optimally

[faint pagoda]

you can have my 9/7

[near cove]

either way the +1 from the build wont really be a good investment of your gold you prob have a ton of better things to get i suppose cards gems etc

[vale spire]

is your +2 on the 9 or the 7

[thin token]

Oh ok so i get it now then

the +2 has to be apart of the rock?

[vale spire]

usually yah

[near cove]

+2 on the 7 of the rock yes

[vale spire]

if you cut a 10/6 you want the 10 to be your +2

[faint pagoda]

[thin token]

wow lmao thats the same rock i cut ^

i just got a 9/6

[near cove]

Lmao nice one

[thin token]

and ok i get it now

oh wait

[near cove]

ye just use adren for the ass taps

[thin token]

u got reverse lol

[faint pagoda]

its reverse

[near cove]

and get the other one

if u run out of neg nodes

[thin token]

i got proper numbers but my adren got left at 6 pretty salty still just happended

[silver mirage]

here's an example

+2 has to be the 7 on a 9/7 or the 10 on a 10/6

[near cove]

dw its not as bad as seeing 3 sub 40% taps on your neg b2b2b and missing out on a 9/7 with a 8/6

[silver mirage]

welcome to despair

[snow glacier]

whats wrong with this one

[silver mirage]

[snow glacier]

8/8 is like a 7/7 but better

[silver mirage]

8/8 is a failed 9/7

[maiden locust]

When vykas does the purple swirly spiral circle around with explosions how do you dodge it?

[vale spire]

he want's 9/7

or 9/7 equiv

[near cove]

you run

[thin token]

ty ty

[near cove]

and then come to counter so dont really run

[maiden locust]

But its range is huge

[silver mirage]

what spiral circle

are u taking about lasers

[vale spire]

You mean bomb?

[maiden locust]

With like small spaces in between the spiral

[silver mirage]

lasers

u just walk

[near cove]

oh that i thought u ment the basic attacks

[vale spire]

walk clockwise

spread out

at edge of map

[maiden locust]

Ohh I think it might be this

Kind of comes to mind

[silver mirage]

this one right

u literally just walk

[maiden locust]

Oh no not that one

[somber jewel]

Donut?

[vale spire]

probably bomb then

[somber jewel]

The stuns?

[vale spire]

person with bomb goes opposite of the group and pings where they're going

where the bomb explodes is a safe spot

[somber jewel]

Oh groups call that donut

Could also be the stuns + explosions

[vale spire]

I call that donut

[silver mirage]

i spent so much money on rocks only to fail

very smoge since i bought accessories for 5x3+1

[vale spire]

I gave up on rocks

[maiden locust]

It's like a purple spiral on the ground and mini explosions

I think it's a normal attack

[somber jewel]

Are there multiple swirls? You just dodge

[silver mirage]

u talkin about poop

?

bring a picture

[maiden locust]

I will look it up later

[vale spire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIQ5uydyaEM

[somber jewel]

Otherwise the person with the donut has to bait it to a side and everyone else goes to the opposite

[vale spire]

this?

[maiden locust]

No it's in phase 1 will get a picture later

[vale spire]

OH

[silver mirage]

literally just walk

last one is inside safe

then space bar the red circle

[somber jewel]

Demon or human

[vale spire]

no he's/she talking about when you fight purple

[somber jewel]

Demons tell are the safe spot

[vale spire]

you just walk in a circle

or walk back and forth between explosions

[vale spire]

yah that

stay in the purple and walk

[silver mirage]

it's drop aoe, move to safe spot, repeat

u can do it in a very small area

just back and forth

[somber jewel]

And don’t PvP

[silver mirage]

if ur support knows

u can just shield tank it

[median jacinth]

does anyone know what this gold value means? I'm not fully understanding if I should be using books or not

the armor books are 340g each and it says 590?

[echo owl]

using the book means you’re getting 590 gold worth of value for the cost of 340

aka it’s good to use

[median jacinth]

ah

is that what you should actually follow

[echo owl]

i mean sure

[median jacinth]

wait but if I change the gold value of the books to 400

then recalc, it says the value is 618g

why would the actual value of using books increase with the price

[near cove]

the market price prob increases after a few so when u set 400 in stone it shows more value the books prob have been listed like 10 for 590 and the rest are 450

if it actually takes market data that is in real time im not too sure what it does seams most reasonable tho

[median jacinth]

im not understanding too well

cuz it pulls the value from market

its not live though

but no market data online is live cuz i dont think lost ark has an official market api

[near cove]

ye no its begun to confuse me as well xd

[median jacinth]

xdd

im guessing its gonna be worth it to use the books anyways at 19

cuz 20 is max anyways lol

[near cove]

oh 100%

a little tip

doing brel rehearsals deja vu is a very very good source

10 books a week

[median jacinth]

ah

[near cove]

and u only need to do the first 2 gates

[median jacinth]

do people actually queue that

i didn't bother looking cuz nobody rly queues clown rehersal

[near cove]

u could just run it with some guildies

they wont mind

cuz the value it has is worth while for them

unless they are all super high in brel ofc xd

[median jacinth]

loll all my guildies are at ilvl

sadge

[near cove]

I mean its perfect if they have ilvl of like 1460-90

[median jacinth]

maybe if it was 4 LOL

[near cove]

anything after that they are unlikely to run

[median jacinth]

8 is way too many to have to find

x)

[near cove]

• you could always queue its not too bad fills decently fast

[median jacinth]

hmm ill try it out

ill see if i can fill it before tonight lolz

[silver mirage]

if ur not doing brel

u should definitely be doing rehearsals

the phantom marks are very useful

[median jacinth]

so drop valtan ?

[near cove]

why drop

u have 3 enters a week

unless ur doing clown each week on ilvl you wont

and honestly i would be surprised if you are xd

[median jacinth]

is it terrible at 1475

LOL

i was gonna hone on reset tmrw