#lost-ark-help

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amber totem
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it doesn't cost much to buy them

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vs the possible time investment of attempting to farm it

rose jewel
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well, nothing can be done then

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also

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most, if not all classes feel like shit early in the game

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just saying

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out of curiosity before answering

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which class was it

lament jewel
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If you like shit, you can keep on creating new characters 🙂

blazing wave
rose jewel
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wardancer by what you said

hollow scroll
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600 ilvl then you switch to tier 2 at that point you should be in yorn

blazing wave
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yeah

rose jewel
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wd is and will feel extremely shit early game

lament jewel
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Wardancers are synergy slaves anyway, inferior class YEP

blazing wave
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playing Artist now ^^ never really liked monk like classes anyway 😛

rose jewel
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late game is feels extremely good with low CDs or extremely high damage

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top tier dps

lament jewel
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Play Artillerists, big explosions, 'Merica, what else'd you want in life

low mason
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is there a location in the game where i can farm ancient relics only? like larger drops than in punika?

rose jewel
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but well, not all classes appeal everyone

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fun is subjective

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anyway

blazing wave
rose jewel
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t8, my dude living in 3020

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ahem

blazing wave
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^^

rose jewel
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just keep following the guide

bleak elk
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back from the future

rose jewel
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you want all pieces to +15 to be able to jump to tier 2

blazing wave
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It doesnt really say much about upgrading past ilvl 460

rose jewel
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being ilv600

hollow scroll
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just play the story out and tier change will happen after yorn

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or before Susge

lament jewel
rose jewel
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then you beat yorn and get new armors from the ilv 600 chaos dungeon

blazing wave
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So I can use all my low mats to push to 15?

rose jewel
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now you will be 802ilv

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you have to yes

blazing wave
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okiiiii

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:>

rose jewel
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then at tier 2 repeat, all +15

blazing wave
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when does the upgrade to legendary happen?

rose jewel
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you will be 1100 (beat feiton beforehand of course)

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at 1100 you clear punika, then get new armors to be 1302 ilv

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now you're officially starting endgame

blazing wave
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sweet

hollow scroll
blazing wave
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ok so next goal is +15 😄 thanks guys

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(and girls) 😄

left gust
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anyone has the rapport quanity of all npcs ?

eternal fern
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since it seems the most destroyer like

lament jewel
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Somewhat true yes

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Moreso Gravity Training, Rage Hammer's very different

rose jewel
left gust
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the amount of rapport of all npcs

eternal fern
rose jewel
slim yarrow
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Im 1385 and dont have the mats to push to 1415 but my engravings are mess. Should I auction house to get my combat stats in really good spot as well my engravings but with legendary equipment even though im close-ish to being able to equip relic?

rose jewel
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is that character hyper expressed

slim yarrow
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Nope

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I used it on my artist

rose jewel
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well, ignore building and buying anything, at all, until 1415

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you will replace it as soon as you hit 1415, and you wasted pheons

slim yarrow
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K figured as much

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Thanks

rose jewel
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have you bought stuff from the event shop

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chaos line, thronespire, boat merchant, guild merchant

dreamy bluff
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what exactly are cube stages? it says ive only done 20/30 since game release

eternal fern
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what does FPPC stand for? i know the first one is flare but idk the others

crimson cobalt
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would you guys recommend getting legendary adrenaline? someone told me you usually take adrenaline as filler as in after 5x3 but the classes i play all use it and it says its a core engraving

dreamy bluff
radiant sapphire
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quick question. in the pic gallery how do people take such high quiality pic? do they use shader or something? i wish to learn how they do it ArtistThinking

eternal fern
amber totem
dreamy bluff
dreamy bluff
eternal fern
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deskaluda

rose jewel
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uhh

eternal fern
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big birdy

rose jewel
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first of all

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different bosses = different items needed

amber totem
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na don't need to throw anything for deska

rose jewel
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second, deskaluda uses no items

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third, its not really at battle start, not for all items

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yes, corro is at battle start

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flare as well ofc

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pheromones is everytime he tries to escape

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aka 2 times

crimson cobalt
rose jewel
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and depends on your party number

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you dont throw all items, you throw 1

dreamy bluff
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i've never used item on deska since i just matchmake it. people uses phero and flare on it though i guess

eternal fern
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i'll worry about it when i do something other than deska

rose jewel
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no

eternal fern
rose jewel
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as i literally just said

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deska uses no items

eternal fern
dreamy bluff
eternal fern
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saw like 1 or 2 partys asking for it

amber totem
rose jewel
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if you werent picking a specific boss on the options

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what you saw were kungelaniums

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not deskaludas

amber totem
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Try and pick a book that is used universally. Grudge is an option. Keep in mind that +3 Grudge accessories are expensive as hell

rose jewel
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no one on their right mind use even a flare for deska

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ask in region chat

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also ingame

dreamy bluff
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also deska has mech everytime it tries to run. just counter it to stop to from running and you good. the only item id say u use on Deska is flare if you feeling lazy

rose jewel
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no

amber totem
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na no need to waste. Map is tiny.

rose jewel
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dont

dreamy bluff
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that why i said feeling lazy. most of the time you walk for 10seconds and you see it

rose jewel
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you still walk 10 seconds to go to where he is after flaring

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just dont use anything, at all, ever

dreamy bluff
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true

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she also make bird noises if you get in range of her so you know where she is

lapis barn
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Does discord shut down a server if it's unmoderated?

dreamy bluff
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servers can get banned yes if it starts breaking TOS

tulip holly
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I just finished Rohendel and got my stuff to ilvl 600 what is the next step ?

rose jewel
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yorn

dreamy bluff
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Yorn

lapis barn
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Homophobia breaks tos?

dreamy bluff
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i've never read the ToS so no idea

rose jewel
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i believe you want to go and find a moderator

dreamy bluff
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i just dont do things that might be offensive so im always good

rose jewel
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open a ticket

tulip holly
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And how will I get a new stuff in Yorn ?

rose jewel
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clear yorn, clear yorn's chaos dungeon, get new stuff, profit

lapis barn
tulip holly
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Okay and i will get a stuff from questing ?

rose jewel
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read what i just posted

lapis barn
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If you have story express on yes

dreamy bluff
lapis barn
eternal fern
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man i wish i could see how much % damage i did

rose jewel
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is it tho

eternal fern
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have no idea if im being a leech

rose jewel
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are you afk

lapis barn
stuck meadow
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Harmony island is every 3 days?

eternal fern
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no bit i did miss my swing 3x and i got very sad

dreamy bluff
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if you hitting the boss you good

rose jewel
lapis barn
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You'll have plenty of more swings don't get sad

dreamy bluff
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dont worry sorcs also suffer the ssame fate whenever the boss decide to jump back during their doomsday

eternal fern
dreamy bluff
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fighter means 20%+

rose jewel
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or less

lapis barn
lapis barn
rose jewel
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upright is 21+

lapis barn
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Yeah

rose jewel
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or was that 30

dreamy bluff
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upright fighter is 30%+, cruel fighter is 40%+

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unless its 8man content then im not sure what the treshhold is for those

rose jewel
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well 29 or less for him

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he coulda done like 10% or 29%

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we'll never know

lapis barn
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He did 29

dreamy bluff
verbal sky
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im pretty sure you can get fighter below 20

dreamy bluff
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fighter might be a little less then 20 yea

verbal sky
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like i mean as low as 10 even

echo owl
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old image

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it now only counts clear pull and no ads

dreamy bluff
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sometimes the number can be weird. ive been in party with 1 cruel fighter(40-45), a upright fighter, and the last 2 people didnt have any figther which would be ~25% unaccounted for

crimson cobalt
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thanks. couldnt type i am in raid. getting grduge will take years i guess

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jk

pseudo atlas
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pretty sure fighter goes down to basically 0% and the trigger for it is who knows really

dreamy bluff
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i guess its kinda like how cruel doesnt have an upper limit, fighter doesnt have a lower limit too

echo owl
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there’s definitely a min

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or else supports would get it

dreamy bluff
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i guess that is true

pseudo atlas
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i'm fairly sure you can get it in a bus with the busser doing 99%

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well i don't have any proof so maybe i'm misremembering

echo owl
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nope

eternal fern
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Man i'll be honest the idea of having to do the story all over again makes me not want to make an alt BearGiggles

rose jewel
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there are ways around it

dreamy bluff
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if its an alts there are regions you can just skip to save you sanity although they will be story locked for you

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you can skip rohendel and feiton if you just hone to to iLevel of the next tier

violet elk
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Does transferring to ancient gear give an ilvl boost?

eternal fern
amber totem
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KT'ing for your second character is very expensive

violet elk
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ty

dreamy bluff
amber totem
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gold better spent elsewhere.

eternal fern
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I'll probably just end up buying a pass at some point

radiant flame
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So you can skip everything, manual punika, KT sv

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And yorn is completed

dreamy bluff
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hmmm

eternal fern
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Only 6 alts can get gold right? Or something along those lines?

radiant flame
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Gold from raids

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Further alts can still get gold by selling stuff

amber totem
dreamy bluff
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how much is SV kt? i feel like that could be alot of gold to skip a 2hour quest

amber totem
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dont kt sv

rose jewel
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haha

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like 3600g or smt

pseudo atlas
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it's over 3k gold yeah

rose jewel
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thats the last continent i would kt

dreamy bluff
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that is indeed alot of gold

rose jewel
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good exp, not long story, lots of card packs

radiant flame
dreamy bluff
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yea but you could have saved that gold by just doing the story

radiant flame
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Yes

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I’m purely presenting it as an option if you want to skip

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I manual everything anyway

dreamy bluff
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its do story for 2hours or wait 8hour for kt to finish

radiant flame
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I think story is fine

radiant flame
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If you skip yorn

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You have to KT later continent

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So you have to KT punika or SV

dreamy bluff
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oh i see what you mean. its more now its required to KT because you skipped yorn

amber totem
dreamy bluff
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but cant you also just go back and do that story? Yorn story wont deseapear just cause you skipped it right?

eternal fern
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I'll probably just end up passibg to punika BearShrug

amber totem
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Yorn MUST be completed for gems

radiant flame
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That would be imo stupid

amber totem
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Yorn is also fast to do

radiant flame
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If you chose to skip

amber totem
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Whereas Rohendel and Feiton (commonly skipped) take longer

rose jewel
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dear lord

radiant flame
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Why would you skip yorn and then go back to do it smh

amber totem
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If you skip yorn you HAVE TO do Feiton

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no thanks

radiant flame
dreamy bluff
# amber totem

btw why not just hone vern geat to 600, do yorn, hone yorn gear to 1100, do punikka and save that 10 USD?

radiant flame
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You can do punika and KT sv

amber totem
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but why

radiant flame
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Why what

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It’s an option

amber totem
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its a crappy option

radiant flame
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?

amber totem
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but you are correct

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it IS an option

rose jewel
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and spending 10 bucks isnt crappy enough?

pseudo atlas
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i would say that guide is a worse option

rose jewel
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for a f2p?

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also

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why in the world would you buy t2 gear THEN DO YORN

amber totem
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I wouldn't be wasting gold on KT stuff on a brand new account but thats just me

amber totem
rose jewel
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its ez enough at ilv600

radiant flame
amber totem
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we are talking about alts

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the persons first alt

radiant flame
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?!!!?!?!!

rose jewel
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raven

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you're making no sense and making things worse

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lets just stop here

radiant flame
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There is…a free punika PP

rose jewel
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today is not your day

eternal fern
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It would actually be my 3rd char since i did story on my summy and then passed my destroyer

amber totem
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Sororitas was asking about his alts ?

rose jewel
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not your day bud

amber totem
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The entire conversation spawned from there?

radiant flame
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Correct. And you are telling him to spend 10 bucks for what reason

amber totem
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Thats the most efficient way to level characters by a very large margin.

radiant flame
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Because your method is “better”

amber totem
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Yes

radiant flame
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I don’t even

dreamy bluff
amber totem
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Shard cost for 1100-1302 is huge.

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It depends on how long you want to spend in that region

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If time doesn't matter then go for it

rose jewel
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i want to spend 0

radiant flame
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It’s a shame that tower doesn’t exist. OH WAIT IT DOES

rose jewel
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thus your method is bad for me

amber totem
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Tower doesn't provide the entirety

radiant flame
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Yes it only provides about 80% of it

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So sorry

rose jewel
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maybe if we had some mats outside of tower for free

dreamy bluff
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do some island to get the rest

rose jewel
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oh WAIT NARUNI EVENT

amber totem
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Again, its about time efficiency. How long does t2 tower take?

dreamy bluff
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and naruni

faint pagoda
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and naruni

amber totem
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Island route is used for your first character

rose jewel
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dude

dreamy bluff
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just go karting and get some free mats

rose jewel
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not your day

amber totem
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It all comes down to how long you want to spend on the leveling portion

rose jewel
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0 bucks

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thats for sure

radiant flame
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Sorry I’m drunk so I don’t deal with stupid people giving bad advice well 🙈

amber totem
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Fuck off RFP

rose jewel
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rfp

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drink some for me

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i dont do alcohol

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so enjoy

amber totem
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Spending 0 bucks is fine.

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Thats a different route to what I was describing then.

radiant flame
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🤷🏻‍♂️ you are telling people the most efficient way is to spend money

amber totem
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it is.

radiant flame
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Which I think is bad in the context of a game

dreamy bluff
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KT is 8hours. just 1 KT in itself is more time then just skipping rohendel and feiton and doing punnika

rose jewel
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P2W GAME BTW ..... not

radiant flame
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When some people don’t have money to spend

amber totem
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Punika powerpass explanation: honing from 960 (required to do/KT Feiton) to 1100 (required to do/KT Punika) requires 135200 shards and 638 leapstones - even if you had shards somehow covered by other sources (events etc)

eternal fern
dreamy bluff
radiant flame
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It’s 100% true that if you have disposable income then whaling is efficient

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But i don’t think it’s useful to recommend it

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When not everyone has that

dreamy bluff
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unless you plan to put your alt in feiton for leapstone farm, you dont even need to do that region

pseudo atlas
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the guide basically KTs feiton so the punika powerpass is cheaper

amber totem
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The reason you KT feiton is to make the PP cost 1100 RC for Punika.

dreamy bluff
rose jewel
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the reason you skip feiton is to not spend a single dime in the game

amber totem
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You don't have to

rose jewel
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so

amber totem
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Its just the most efficient. Its probably for people that value time a bit more than pushing dead content I suppose.

faint pagoda
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last time i explained this people went crazy too

dreamy bluff
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KT feiton is basically you saying "im gonna waste 8hours and 10 USD" to do something that would take me 2hours

amber totem
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Its not 2 hours though.

dreamy bluff
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feiton is ~2hours

eternal fern
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@amber totem how many hours would you guess using ur method go level an alt?

amber totem
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Feiton > Punika > 1370 is a long stretch

rose jewel
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not worth my 10 bucks

eternal fern
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Give me a rough guess

rose jewel
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i can just farm

amber totem
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And thats fine

pseudo atlas
amber totem
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Enjoy your free time. I personally don't have that time.

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So Ill spend 10 bucks every time.

rose jewel
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and because you can you think everyone in here can

dreamy bluff
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but you are not enjoying free time. you have to wait for KT to finish

rose jewel
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8hrs free time for a good night sleep

amber totem
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Its for an alt, so you would head off and do other things.

tawdry forge
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hi whats the downsides of being in a different server than my friends?

rose jewel
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or just <2hrs playing the game i enjoy

amber totem
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ItS An OpTiON

pseudo atlas
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.region

eternal fern
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I feel like i started a civil war by asking about alts BearGiggles

rose jewel
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outside of that, not much

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you can raid together

pseudo atlas
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!region

rose jewel
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bot is dead

pseudo atlas
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fine thanks bot

tawdry forge
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thank you

pseudo atlas
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Cross Server (Region wide)
Raids, Dungeons, Cube, Plat Fields, Auction house, Character name, Friends List, Strongholds, Boss Rush, PVP arenas

Server Specific
Guilds, Islands, Open world, GvG, Life skills (professions), Unranked Arena Premades (queue as party, this is cross server in KR)

Nothing is Cross Region

amber totem
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You'll have to party finder to play with them but no worries there

vernal junco
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hey all i enjoy swift builds.. i have a FI wardancer and a TTH GS... any other recommendations for another swift build spec? I have a north vern power pass i would like to use

eternal fern
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So if someone had to make a rough guess how many hours spend actually playing the char for say 1370? Since i guess thats the first place to put an al

amber totem
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That was with the North vern pass.

eternal fern
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302 is vern pass/transfer right?

amber totem
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yea

eternal fern
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Then yeh 302

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Cause aint no way am i doing 1-50 ever again

amber totem
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thats the longest part of the game

amber totem
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Should be faster with Shift + G but originally was around 20 hours

radiant flame
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WF aero when she’s out

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Control glaivier

vernal junco
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ooo aero seems cool

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yah i was looking into Tai scrapper it looks fun

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was leaning on that build

radiant flame
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Tai is - imo - super fun

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Very fluid

amber totem
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Tai is close to your WD, you'll enjoy it.

radiant flame
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You have huge utility

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In terms of stagger and wp

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Good mobility

vernal junco
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and i get to share my skins!

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huge bonus haha

radiant flame
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I love it

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Downsides - some stupid low range skills

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Bad animations

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So just, bear in mind 🤷🏻‍♂️

vernal junco
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kind of used to it with WD so hopefully it isnt that much worse haha

amber totem
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It doesn't feature huge numbah either, but tonnes of little yellow numbers ALL the time

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up time is near on 100%

vernal junco
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yah i really enjoy piano fingers gameplay haha

radiant flame
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Idk signum is the WD god here. Scrapper range is super low

rose jewel
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2spender dominion

radiant flame
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You are basically hugging the boss permanently as tai

rose jewel
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around the 1500 swift range

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but since dominion, low enough CDs

radiant flame
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Which is both enjoyable but also frustrating at times

rose jewel
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and you can blast and tornado enemies

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but you gotta stay close most of the time due to fart skill

radiant flame
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Fwiw genuinely love scrappers in my party just because the biggest jails are when people can’t do stagger/wp mechs

vernal junco
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going to make my tai scrapper alt - appreacite all the feedback

amber totem
faint pagoda
vernal junco
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is it mainly a back attack class also?

faint pagoda
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yea

radiant flame
faint pagoda
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but you have 2 movement skills and best dash + swift

radiant flame
vernal junco
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ooo it has that double dash right? amazing

dreamy bluff
# eternal fern So if someone had to make a rough guess how many hours spend actually playing th...

hone to Yorn(600), do story(~2hours), do chaos or buy t2 gear, hone to Punikka(1100), do story(~2hours).
then use event mats to get shards/guardian stones to hone to 1370. you will be locked to how many oreha stones you can buy/craft though.

if you have all the mats needed to hone to 1370 already in your storage then you can do it all in ~5hours.

your longest time wasting would be getting enough mats and oreha stones to actually hone to 1370 if you dont have a stash

eternal fern
warm cove
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I am a new player leveling Deathblade through the story, is it normal to be getting slapped around in the story or am I doing something wrong? I am Solo running the dungeons but I am having to chug potions

dreamy bluff
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at least thats how long it took 1 of my alts(~5-6hours)

amber totem
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You're forgetting to mention doing the entire tower for t1 and t2

rose jewel
radiant flame
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The maxroll levelling guide is a bit old but still fine

eternal fern
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Well he says all mats to 1370 i assume that includes t1 and t2 mats

amber totem
warm cove
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I was kind of following one, ill take a look at this though

radiant flame
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Also just more generally make sure you’re equipping new gear as you get it

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Rarity doesn’t matter (ie don’t keep legendary gear because it’s legendary) - always upgrade to higher level stuff

rose jewel
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item level specifically

radiant flame
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And try to stack some crit on your stats

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But story should be kind of trivial if you have the right skills 🤷🏻‍♂️

pseudo atlas
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most of the time people are getting hit hard in story is because their gear is broken and they never repaired it or replaced it

radiant flame
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^

warm cove
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Cheers all, it is just the dungeons mainly but I am getting through it, the over world stuff is fine.

rose jewel
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if you select hard difficulty, dont

warm cove
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Yeah I have been but I am going to stop

rose jewel
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unless you wanna have a bit more fun

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but its not worth it if you wanna just rush thru

warm cove
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Yeah just trying to get through this express story thing

wise garnet
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If i delete a knowledge transfered character does the limit of knowledge transfered charcters go back down

faint pagoda
heady zealot
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whats the standard engravings + gems for clown? e.g.5x3, all lvl 7 gems?

echo owl
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the minimum is max gear

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you're gearing for the lesser chance of getting gatekept

heady zealot
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I should rephrase as the standard for clown then

echo owl
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there isn't one either cause people set it to arbitrary things

dreamy bluff
echo owl
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the general advice given is 5x3 yeah

faint pagoda
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i think the 5x3 is the crucial part

echo owl
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but at the same time i've gotten in easily without it

dreamy bluff
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you dont get gatekept by gems that much. as long as its not under lvl5

faint pagoda
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i did clown with my friends , i was the only one with 5x3 and we cleared g2 with 5 seconds left and i had 54 % dmg

echo owl
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thats kinda concerning

heady zealot
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im guessing my 4x3+2 sorc wont suffice then

faint pagoda
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so yeah get 5x3 atleast

echo owl
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but sure

rose jewel
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huh

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uptime is more important there

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having all the damage in the world but not being able to use said damage

amber totem
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You might get in 4x3 I guess. But 5x3 seems baseline. If you're pushing to/past clown you want to invest in your character after all.

radiant token
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How many card packs do you get from Rowen questline?

radiant flame
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A few rare-legs and a few uncommon-legs

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I don’t think any epics

maiden locust
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can u explain me this

faint pagoda
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put in the stone with the engravings and reduced abilites

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select the books you wanna use

echo owl
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put in engraving names

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fill in nodes at their correct spots

faint pagoda
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and look for accs and check which work out

maiden locust
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ohh

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wait how do i know what engravings to put there

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isnt there more than 6 ?

echo owl
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its your meta engravings for your class...

faint pagoda
#

check community guide

echo owl
#

which you should have the guide for...

maiden locust
#

im so confused rn

echo owl
#

ok what class are you building for

fossil night
#

Obvious troll

rose jewel
#

behave

rigid plank
#

They're not, just new to this is all

rose jewel
#

not everyone is as intelligent as you

#

anyway

#

engravings is quite hard to get at first, and quite easy once you know basics

#

a quick tldr would be

fossil night
#

Okay well if you aren't trolling, my deepest apologies

rose jewel
#

your class uses specific engraves, relic accesories can have up to 5 points of one and 3 of another

#

5 points = lv1 engraving, 15 points is lv3

shut pasture
#

We want people to feel like its safe to ask whatever questions they need to in this channel. Keep that in mind.

rose jewel
#

you have accesories, a stone and 2 book slots for that

#

i really really recommend watching a video guide about engravings if you havent

#

after that, using the calculator should be way easier to understand

#

the point is to mix and match 4 engravings at level 3 with what you can get

#

AFTER cutting your stone

#

stone comes first

#

since its rng what you will get, you may end up with a very bad stone, making it harder to get 4x3, or with a god stone

fossil night
#

heres a link to a stone calculator you can use for when you cut your stone

#

You typically want to shoot for at least a 7/6 stone

rose jewel
#

for a 4x3? no

fossil night
#

Well for 5/3

rose jewel
#

you'll end up wasting a lot more pheons than needed

#

if he's asking about how to get engravings

#

i can assure you he's not ready for 5x3

#

not even close

dreamy bluff
#

go for a 6/6 stone. if you get something better, nice

fossil night
#

I urge them to 5x3 though

rose jewel
#

with what gold

#

and what pheons

dreamy bluff
#

5x3 is way to expensive for new players. and they arent doing content that needs it yet

rose jewel
#

lets not try to run before learning how to walk

fossil night
#

Any advice for someone trying to get into brel first time?

rose jewel
#

learning party

fossil night
#

Those on here in the discord?

rose jewel
#

or in other discords

#

perhaps the advice should be to find a guild / static

fossil night
#

Server is dead

rose jewel
#

what server

fossil night
#

Zosma

faint pagoda
#

just do rehearsel a few times then you can do 1-2

fossil night
#

Let me rephrase that

#

My server is filled with a bunch of 1540/1560/1590 chads

rose jewel
#

you realise you can be in a guild's discord without being physically in the ingame guild right?

#

same goes for a static group

fossil night
#

Oh

rose jewel
#

a guild doesnt just mean ingame guild

fossil night
#

Yeah thats a good point

#

btw whats a static

#

First time hearing this term

rose jewel
#

same people you raid with every week

#

can be just 8 total, can be a larger group

#

its like a guild but for specifically raiding

fossil night
#

cool thank you

dreamy bluff
# fossil night btw whats a static

static is a group of people that you have decided to do a specific content with. for example 8 of you decide to do clown together everyweek. that would make you part of a clown static

#

the name comes from the term "static" which mean unchanging. in this case you would be running the content with that group without changing players

tawdry forge
#

what do i do with the story express gear?

#

i cant dismantle it

last swallow
tawdry forge
#

it says cannot destroy item when i drag it out of inven

last swallow
#

Yeah then have to sell to npc

faint pagoda
#

sell npc

dreamy bluff
#

go to one of these merchants and sell it to them

tawdry forge
#

thanks!

tawdry forge
#

is there a tierlist going around?

echo owl
#

several but why do you ask

tawdry forge
#

just curious on what playstyles are at the top now ever since i left

echo owl
#

in no particular order: ignite sorc, surge blade, barrage arti, master summoner

#

those are the standouts

tawdry forge
#

deathblade never left huh

shut pasture
#

No two, or three or four of them are the same

#

Play what you want to play. Simple as that.

rose jewel
#

b-b-b-b-b-but muh SSS+++ god tier char

#

which i dont even use

#

and if i do i miss all spells and i get fighter

tawdry forge
#

the only really thing i try to look for in tierlists are mainly on how little investment you need bring for it to be strong

#

also also what ilvl gear does punika pass give you?

rose jewel
#

if you want to spend low and be relevant, make a support

#

normal powerpass 1302
this specific event powerpass 1340

teal raft
#

how do i upgrade foraging tools?

#

get better rarity or faster time to log/mine

rose jewel
#

you craft new ones

tawdry forge
teal raft
#

YOO IM A GIGACHAD NOW

rose jewel
#

well yes

teal raft
#

anyways back to topic

rose jewel
#

dude

#

i cant fucking see your names

#

on dark mode

teal raft
#

ikr

rose jewel
#

gigaghost

teal raft
#

so to craft better rarity tools i need more experience?

#

logging and mining etc

#

guess i gotta start loggin

rose jewel
#

uh, not really

#

stronghold

#

buy the thingy (lets say blueprint) and you can craft them

teal raft
#

👀

rose jewel
#

all you need are purple tools

#

never go for relic or legendary

tawdry forge
#

are the community guides updated?

rose jewel
#

they are the most up to date guides out there

tawdry forge
#

ooh

rose jewel
#

in english at least

tawdry forge
#

also im curious, whats the minimum skill points you need for a decent build in general?

rose jewel
#

uhhh

#

depends on the class?

#

supports have it easy, no need for lv12 skills

#

some classes may need certain skills maxed (10) for the 3rd tripod

#

you just live with being a bit less useful until you get the skill pots

#

ilv doesnt mean much if all your skills are like lv10 instead of 12, or some skills not at 10 even, and many more things

tawdry forge
#

so getting those skill points are pretty much first priority

rose jewel
#

not first, but big priority for sure

#

just get them as you play the game

#

once you cant do any more daily/weekly stuff, its time to wander around

tawdry forge
#

speaking of those, i basically ignored una's quest cuz of the story express thing

#

i just finished punika so im now 1340 so i guess ill do those now and island hoppong

last swallow
#

No one doing gate 3 argos

#

So sad 😞

cloud totem
olive pelican
#

what card should i pick from the album the orange cards

echo owl
#

nothing

last swallow
#

Can u reset gate saved?

echo owl
#

nope

last swallow
#

Rip gate 3 argos

rose jewel
#

oh my god

#

everyone going ghost mode

last swallow
#

Y is it like this?

echo owl
#

april 1st is pretty cool

rose jewel
#

i refuse to go blinding flashbang mode

#

you won the fight, but not the war!

last swallow
#

Do u buy argos chest if 1450+?

rose jewel
#

do you need mats to hone

last swallow
#

No not really

rose jewel
#

there's your own answer

last swallow
#

Need gold ✨️

rose jewel
#

again, you answered yourself

#

its as easy as to ask to yourself simple questions like those

last swallow
#

No one doing argos g3

rose jewel
#

open your own party then and wait for it to fill

last swallow
#

I might have to abandon it

#

I did no applications lol

rose jewel
#

that's why you do g1-2 in a sitting

#

and specify in the title what you doing

last swallow
#

Well we tried g3 a lot but failed

#

Then voted to leave

#

Why can't I matchmake and find a party at once lol

rose jewel
#

because game design

last swallow
#

They somehow never saw people being stranded g3

#

Ohhh they are joining slowly

#

4 more to go

pallid panther
#

Doing solo hard boss rush is quicker than do it on matchmaking ? Its so boring having to do one by one, at least if it was like 3x cube

minor rose
#

you're not gonna finish it on time

timber mauve
#

Sounds like you speak from experiencetrolldespair

minor rose
timber mauve
#

Oh no

minor rose
#

dint expect the difficulty diff is so huge

rose jewel
#

i soloed on time

#

was it hard? yes very

#

not worth the effort

minor rose
#

on time, you mean you get all the rewards? exp cards?

#

theres a diff between finishing before timer ran out and exp cards tho

tulip holly
#

What do we do with old honed equipment ?

rose jewel
#

story express?

#

oh no

#

im a ghost

timber mauve
tulip holly
strange crescent
#

siege lv 1 slime island gives only 2 3lv gems right?

#

trying to figure out if its worth it

minor rose
sly imp
#

does brel set already come upgraded

#

or will i need to use clown mats on them

rose jewel
#

like, lv2 set?

sly imp
#

yes

rose jewel
#

heh, no dude

sly imp
#

poggo

rose jewel
#

clown is not skippable

#

and no, it cant go from 1 to 3 with kayangel

#

you have to do clown sooner or later

#

if your set is lv1, it will be lv1 with brel relic and brel ancient

#

if the set is already lv2 it carries over

sly imp
rose jewel
#

its hard to know what you're asking without enough context

#

so i added that in the end in hopes you already did clown

rich jackal
blissful coral
#

Anyone willing to suggest how much I should list this necklace for? I think it's probably value, and hoping I can (briefly) ascend from broke-ness. I'm NAE.

echo owl
#

its not since the only class that uses masters tenacity is crit/swift

blissful coral
#

aah ok

#

what class is that? one of the assassins?

rose jewel
#

you know what M. Tenacity does right?

#

also

#

have you checked your own market

#

like, right click and search

#

and put quality down to 0

blissful coral
#

There's three listed at 3k 7k and 20k

#

so might be able to get some cash out of it

midnight nimbus
rose jewel
#

mhm

#

artist is very spammy

#

leveling to 10 just means extra damage

#

and lets be honest, its the last thing you will be doing

midnight nimbus
#

followup question: when you do reach lv55/60, do you still leave everything at lv10? or go to 11/12?

rose jewel
#

you can go to 11 or 12, i believe it doesnt cost extra

#

but again, damage is the last thing you'll do

#

so no need, unless for chaos dungeon

graceful ledge
#

gosh sig i can barely see ur name if i tilt my phone

#

or mby im goin crazy

rose jewel
#

huh?

#

my name hasnt changed

#

i can see it just fine

#

and yours as well

blissful coral
#

the slayer role icon is peak

midnight nimbus
#

thanks!~

timber mauve
rose jewel
#

are you ok grace

timber mauve
#

Are you a light mode user? WeirdPaper

rose jewel
#

shh, she doesn't know

timber mauve
blissful coral
#

light mode users get banned on sight NODDERS

maiden locust
#

is 7/7 better?

rose jewel
#

same thing

#

so you have a nice rock already

#

save it, lock it

maiden locust
#

alright thanks

#

is farming tome items the best gold?

rose jewel
#

pffff, no

#

its the only thing i wont recommend to anyone

maiden locust
#

ive been playing for a couple of weeks now

#

im just broke

rose jewel
#

you are not supposed to be rich in a matter of weeks

faint pagoda
#

Chaos, Guardians, Oreha, argos, Raids, alts

maiden locust
#

haha im so glad for this

rose jewel
#

but you definitely can have more than what you have if you kind of do some other activities

maiden locust
faint pagoda
#

and im glad for this

rose jewel
#

life skilling is one that comes to mind

#

and its the easiest thing in the world

rose jewel
faint pagoda
maiden locust
#

with the 3 months of engravings i just need to max swift right?

rose jewel
#

not even 1800 spec

#

crying flex

timber mauve
#

Not even 1800 spec shake

faint pagoda
#

no bracelet

rose jewel
#

1700+

maiden locust
#

the engravings dont matter right?

faint pagoda
#

deadge you paypal me some money ill do it

maiden locust
#

since i have the free 4x3

faint pagoda
rose jewel
#

gather gold and buy slowly your stuff

#

if you dont have your things in 3 months you will be running a very questionable build

#

thus gatekept

maiden locust
#

lol i guess

#

gotta get lucky

rose jewel
#

first, if you are able to play more time, make an alt or two

#

second, whenever there is a gold adventure island, go do it

#

third, una tokens, so dont forget your una's dailies and weeklies

maiden locust
#

yea been farming these

rose jewel
#

5th, you can sell tradable mats from guardians

maiden locust
#

just all day

#

got 3 so far

rose jewel
#

9th, life skilling, gathering, fishing etc

maiden locust
#

i dont think i have life skills

rose jewel
#

you do

#

everyone does

#

did you never cut a tree or hit a rock

maiden locust
#

no

rose jewel
#

buy a tool and do it then

#

that's passive gold thats being lost

maiden locust
#

what do you even do with it

#

just sell it?

rose jewel
#

sell it raw or craft and sell

#

you can probably, or not, get a smaller profit

maiden locust
#

do i buy crafting tools on the AH?

rose jewel
#

no

#

you craft your tools

#

a purple is all you need (with good/decent rolls)

#

you can buy green rarity ones if you cant craft them (crafting costs mats from life skiling itself and gold)

teal raft
#

you can get the punika power pass once right?

rose jewel
#

once per region

teal raft
#

ahh

maiden locust
#

i have no idea

#

i just bought all the materials on the ah

rose jewel
#

thats good enough

maiden locust
#

i guess the pass did give me some tools

rose jewel
#

oh it did? kind of forgot that

maiden locust
#

should i just like use all my like

rose jewel
#

if it actually did

#

coz i dont remember

maiden locust
#

life pots

rose jewel
#

not for now

maiden locust
#

any reason to save these

rose jewel
#

you can but maybe you can make a bit bigger profit with better tools

maiden locust
#

oh okay

#

thanks

rose jewel
#

the right one just makes you consume your energy faster

#

the left one refills the energy

#

so, to save time, use the right one

maiden locust
#

how do i select skills for mining?

#

or sonar or whatever

#

i know i did it onc

hollow scroll
#

press b

maiden locust
#

oh thanks

maiden locust
#

should i sell my greater leap stones

atomic orchid
#

anyone know if artists will be able to go to brel hard if they dont have full brel normal set(assuming you do on other chars tho)?

rose jewel
rose jewel
maiden locust
#

what are good alt classes?

timber mauve
slate elk
#

is mayhem berserk still a good thing to play with or?

uneven robin
#

yea its pretty good rn

teal raft
#

time to think for 100 years what class to use punika powerpass on

rose jewel
#

put some names on a roulete and spin it

graceful ledge
#

does the powerpass expire btw

slate elk
rose jewel
#

event powerpasses always expire

graceful ledge
#

sad

rose jewel
#

however

graceful ledge
#

why are they making all the roles disc color

#

lol

rose jewel
#

unless you want it for slayer, you can make a char, use the pass and let the char sit in trixion without an advanced class

#

for if you want an aeromancer and aero doesnt come with one

graceful ledge
#

ic

slate elk
#

well will they give us another pp powerful than punika’s

rose jewel
#

ask smilegate

slate elk
#

would they respond though

rose jewel
#

doubt

graceful ledge
#

im down for a rowen powerpass

slate elk
#

u ask them

teal raft
#

i dont see many people playing shadowhunter

#

is it bad

echo owl
#

"yes"

rose jewel
#

?

#

lol no

#

the answer may be more close to "yesn't"

teal raft
#

ive heard at higher level its not that good of a class

#

although its fun and powerful at first

echo owl
#

you'd be correct

tribal solstice
#

dumb question, I just got my gear from Oreha/Argos but it goes above +15 should I keep honing it or stop at 15?

echo owl
#

that level is so far out that a lot of players wouldnt even reach it

#

aka the ceiling of the class

teal raft
#

ye like 1550+?

echo owl
#

well its mostly tripods and lv10 gems

#

you can see the problem where you dmg essentially caps from 4 tripods and 2 gems

#

compared to a lot things with 18 tripods and 11 gems

teal raft
#

then imma either go with reaper or deathblade 👀

#

eh reaper fuck it

#

watch me burn my punika pass on her and then regret it

maiden locust
#

is kinda of a dick move to do the gate 6 guardian at item 1415

echo owl
#

no?

#

its rated for 1415

hardy sphinx
#

how do i know if i finished certain quest or not

#

trying to see if i finished magmadon (rohendel fieldboss)'s quest item drop

minor briar
minor briar
hardy sphinx
#

no i mean what if i finished the quest

#

but i dont remember

minor briar
minor briar
hardy sphinx
#

where is it

minor briar
#

2nd tab

teal raft
minor briar
#

of j

minor briar
maiden locust
#

is relic accesories worth breaking my engravings?

minor briar
maiden locust
#

i have argos accesories

#

with the class bonus on them

minor briar
#

with correct combat stats?

maiden locust
#

yea

#

if i swapped to relic would lose my class engraving

#

i havnt done the legion commander stuff that drops the class engravings yet

minor briar
#

u just swapping to a random relic acc?

maiden locust
#

dunno just got my first ones

#

so yea i guess

minor briar
#

once u hit 1415, u should try to invest into a full build if u have the gold

#

equipping one random acc with correct combat stat doesn’t do much

maiden locust
#

i have 22 gold lol

minor briar
maiden locust
#

i guess just keep with argos stuff?

minor briar
#

ye

maiden locust
echo owl
#

magick stream moment

maiden locust
#

i guess its not worth losing ingiter lol

#

im so overwhelmed all the time with gearing lol

minor briar
#

ye keep til u have gold to start investing into 5x3

#

also don’t use magick stream

#

in ur later build

last swallow
#

How long do you think it'll take from 1450 to 1500 with 2 characters earning gold? 1450 and 1370

graceful ledge
#

probably a reallly long while @.@

#

are all these role changes for the day that this is

pulsar flare
#

Quick Question, What is the fastest mount?

minor briar
minor briar
#

all mounts same base speed but dash distance, anim spd and cd make the diff

minor briar
pulsar flare
last swallow
minor briar
#

like 1-2 if ur grinding

#

2 char gold income is pretty low

#

and 1370 is far away even with no gold honing

#

til 1445

graceful ledge
minor briar
#

wats ur main at?

graceful ledge
#

1475

#

slowly doing those clowns

minor briar
#

uhh

wintry mauve
#

1460 ain’t rlly worth it’s better to hold at 1445 and wait until u have mats to 1475

minor briar
#

vykas hard gives better gold than normal

#

so i wouldn’t say it’s not worth

graceful ledge
#

ye the thing is the amount of gold vykas hm give is what im tryna see

minor briar
#

and it should be pretty cheap

graceful ledge
wintry mauve
#

Sure but only unlocks that no chaos or anything like that. U can still earn gold from selling leaps but if u think u wanna get the gold u can go for it

minor briar
#

kungel

#

gives extra gold

#

if u sell

#

and only hone off bound leaps

wintry mauve
#

Only a couple extra leaps I don’t even do it cuz ain’t worth the time and bombs. Doesn’t mean it’s terrible but I just think it takes longer

graceful ledge
#

well

#

cost wise

#

would it be more expensive to hone 4 charas to 1460 or 1 chara to 1490

#

and knowing my luck assuming pitying atleast the weapon

wintry mauve
#

What r ur alts at rn

graceful ledge
#

most at 1430

#

one 1447

wintry mauve
#

1490 prob more expensive in pure gold

hasty wind
#

is hallucination better than nightmare for igniter?

graceful ledge
#

wow 1490 is that much?

#

@.@

wintry mauve
#

It can get kinda expensive if u end up pitying pieces lotta leaps involved if u do

graceful ledge
#

i see

#

assuming i have enough leaps for it then?

#

my problem is more of oreha fusion mats tbh

#

i got like none of those

minor briar
graceful ledge
#

i really failed a 90% ok game

wintry mauve
#

We get a bunch more books for 1460 honing compared to 1490 but ye the fusion mats add up. Always can get lucky tho

graceful ledge
#

i stopped believing that i can get lucky when i spent like 20-30k gold for 1475

#

the weapon pity was rough

#

how much cost would it be to 1490 on avg tho

wintry mauve
#

Maxroll says about 44k on average

graceful ledge
#

my gosh-

maiden locust
#

5x3 isnt possible with a 5/7 rock and only 1 legendary book right?

graceful ledge
#

u prob need 2

maiden locust
#

yeah id need 2 legendary books

#

but all of them are super expensive, adrenaline, kbw, grudge, ambush master

wintry mauve
#

7/7 u can go for

maiden locust
#

yeah ill have to go for a 7/7 rock

graceful ledge
#

whats minimum u can go for 5x3 with 2 legendary books anyway

wintry mauve
#

7/4 I’m pretty sure

#

It’s gonna be pretty expensive tho on most classes

fiery prairie
#

how far does story express gear get me before I should hone my own stuff

maiden locust
#

i might just have to leave ambush master at level 2 until i get a better rock

fiery prairie
#

so is it worth doing the chaos dungeons or guardian raids right now

maiden locust
#

no

#

wait

#

are you in t3?

fiery prairie
#

not even close..

#

just starting tier 2

maiden locust
#

then no

#

you dont need any t1 or t2 materials

#

itll take you to 1340

#

you can do chaos dungeons once you finish punika but i'd just gather rest bonus

#

any mats you get now will be useless as soon as you do the punika story

#

which gives you 1340 legendary gear

fiery prairie
#

aight thanks

maiden locust
#

why are rocks so expensive now

#

an ambush master grudge rock was like 20g last night

shy chasm
#

someone brought bought all of them out

maiden locust
#

imagine the pheons it cost them 💀

nimble gorge
#

does anyone know how to turn on the shadows for the hook mechanic esp for the 2nd mario hook phase?

#

the hook shows up, but I never been able to see the shadow which every other guy has when I watch their screen

#

I thought it was dx9, but since they made dx11 the standard, Im wondering if it was just a asetting

cloud pendant
#

Is aeromancer the next class release?

timber mauve
hollow scroll
#

its stated in their current looking ahead notes

cloud pendant
#

Where is it?

hollow scroll
cloud pendant
#

Nothing says about aeromancer

hollow scroll
#

omg

silver rain
#

Aeromancer is in specialist class

hollow scroll
#

slayer will probably be after, if it doesnt get nerfed in to the ground before we get it

languid mica
#

can you exchange argos blood for leapstones somewhere?

rose jewel
#

abyss exchange npc

languid mica
#

is there one in vern?

rose jewel
#

yes

languid mica
#

alrite thanks

cloud pendant
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A noob question. Lone knight is blue and combat readiness is red GL right?

shy yarrow
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other way around

cloud pendant
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Oh?

hollow scroll
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you can tell by looking at the colour of the engraving

cloud pendant
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But lone knight shows blue tho?

rose jewel
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???

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actually yes lmao

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its not correct but the colors are pepega

shy yarrow
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lone knight is red because of the skill colours

cloud pendant
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So which one is it?

shy yarrow
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blue is blue for same reason

cloud pendant
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Oh ok

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I get confused

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Because it says blue and the colour of lone knight shows blue so I thought so

shy yarrow
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LK is red skills, CR is blue skills, dont go off the engraving since you have purple which uses red skills and both class engravings lol

hollow scroll
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they should switch the colours RAGEY

maiden locust
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is life energy roster wide? or seperate on each character

hollow scroll
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roster

rose jewel
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it would be extremely gamebreaking if it was per char

maiden locust
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true

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fishing rn for first time

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had to buy a rod

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how fast does life energy regen?

hollow scroll
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every few days hm