lost-ark-help

[rose jewel]

and i'll say nothing else because this wont go anywhere

[hollow scroll]

[sand lion]

That’s why WOW can work over 10 years. But this game just die in 1 year

[rose jewel]

1 year and 1 month

and still running strong

see you in 1 year

you'll say the same, game will still be alive

then see you in another year

same story

[hollow scroll]

wow andy

wow is a completely different game

[rose jewel]

save us the trouble and please dont comment anything else

[eternal fern]

wow also just straight up lies to its players

so yaknow

[sand lion]

Running strong? Half players half bot

[bitter basalt]

hey, whats the best ways to farm some gold?

[rose jewel]

yeah because wow doesnt have bots

[radiant flame]

If he didn’t care about other people he wouldn’t be here trying to help people every day. I agree AGS probably could have warned people but the information was there as he said. Just chill out.

[hollow scroll]

havent seen many bots lately but plenty of real people

[hollow scroll]

excavating or fishing

[rose jewel]

you cant really farm gold endlessly 24/7, most things are time gated (if not all)

[hollow scroll]

so basically life skills

[rose jewel]

besides raids, you can life skill as waiting said, craft>sell, make a small profit, or just sell the mats if the profit is bigger

adventure islands, una tokens

daily stuff you can sell tradable mats

that's where alts come into play

more alts more gold

but a lot more time spent

and you gotta invest a bit of gold to gear them first

[sand lion]

AGS gave us information about the end date before. Why they didn’t give us information this time???

[rich leaf]

end date of what

[rose jewel]

frog

[sand lion]

End date of frog

[rich leaf]

they did tho?

[rose jewel]

not ingame on a scrolling message

that's why he's upset

[sand lion]

Yeah

Why no scrolling message this time?

[radiant flame]

End of the day. It’s over. I think it would be better for your own sanity to just move on

[sand lion]

AGS forgot to do this job

[bitter basalt]

is it even worth to sell t1 mats? gives 1 gold but i have to give 1 gold right?

[radiant flame]

I think it fundamentally does not change the way you play the game

[bitter basalt]

or does it give my gold back

[rose jewel]

if you sell something at 1g, you win that 1g

deposit is 1g, but deposit is always given back

[radiant flame]

Beyond that. We can’t help you. So I think your grievance is beyond the remit of this channel

[bitter basalt]

kkty

[rose jewel]

can you sell them and make a minuscule profit? yeah sure, but

[maiden locust]

how are u guys making gold? i refuse to buy gold and get banned for that : (

[rose jewel]

tier 1 is not where you make money

i play the game

like a normal person

[hollow scroll]

https://forums.playlostark.com/t/twinkle-twinkle-exchange-shop-update/511900

[rose jewel]

and get gold via ingame activities

[sand lion]

Plz learn WOW. If you end the frog. You can stop the activity to spent gold for materials. But you couldn’t just let our frog coin disappeared.

[maiden locust]

i dont get any gold from chaos raids or anything...

[eternal fern]

you do understand none of us work on the game right

[rose jewel]

not all activities will give you gold

[hollow scroll]

you could turn them in to silver no?

same as anniversary

[sand lion]

I probably have 40 frog coin. They just let them disappeared

[hollow scroll]

lmao

[radiant flame]

This is bullshit lol

[rose jewel]

not they, you, because you never looked around for an end date

[radiant flame]

You know the coin shop has weekly limits?

[rich leaf]

6 per week right

the guaranteed ones at least

[rose jewel]

around 36 guaranteed ones?

so he got lucky 4 times

[radiant flame]

If you save 40 coins and didn’t spend any you are also stupid

[rich leaf]

how does he even have enough gold to buy every chest

[rose jewel]

either way way too lucky or he just bought a crapton of boxes

[hollow scroll]

why didn’t they tell us the end date

[rose jewel]

if he bought a LOT of boxes then he is not really new to the game

he should have known better after months that ags always do things wrong

and by then, he did not learn, yet, to investigate things further

in an mmo

i really cant help him in any way

[sand lion]

Dude you can try if you have 21 characters fully buy box every week

[rose jewel]

see?

i cant

[radiant flame]

😂

[rich leaf]

bruh

[eternal fern]

how do you spend this much time on the game but are not able to track when events are ending

[rose jewel]

i tried but yeah

[eternal fern]

genuinely confused

[hollow scroll]

[sand lion]

6000 hrs gamer.

[rich leaf]

21 chars all buying boxes weekly

[rose jewel]

6k hours, cant look 5 minutes at the forums or ask in this discord

[rich leaf]

impressive actually but also quite sad

[hollow scroll]

tbh the forums are ass

but i still found it

[radiant flame]

think this isn’t the help you need

[rose jewel]

he can make an account and post his question

there will be like 10 troll answers but one will nail it

or, you know

ask in here

[hollow scroll]

the way he writes, hes already a forum andy

[rose jewel]

i probably could have answered him

but its too late now

sorry people

[hollow scroll]

in other news, NAE playerbase is still troll

[rose jewel]

i failed you all

:c

[eternal fern]

do better

[rose jewel]

its time for retirement

[rich leaf]

smh imagine not being able to predict the future 😠

[rose jewel]

my 8ball fell and broke

[sand lion]

That is just shit. Why we need to look the forums? They always changed. It said we would have artist, then they said they will cancel it. Then they said they fixed it.

So why we look at forums?

[rose jewel]

to have a good time

[hollow scroll]

you obviously weren’t here for glaivier

[eternal fern]

to get updated info

[rich leaf]

well you couldve asked here

[hollow scroll]

the sike they pulled

[rose jewel]

i give you a warm welcome to MMOs in general

where not every single little small thing and detail will be ingame with a scrolling text

[hollow scroll]

they probably posted it on twitter also

[rose jewel]

as an mmo veteran

[hollow scroll]

its your own fault if you do not seek the information you require

[rose jewel]

i like reading thru patch notes fully

understand what is new and what is gone or fixed

guess im a rare case

[eternal fern]

does feel like most people dont bother with patch notes

atleast thats what i noticed in other games

[rose jewel]

its also a lot of people's first mmo experience

so they are not used to it

[hollow scroll]

i skip view them to the parts im actually interested in

[sand lion]

Ok I can put up with this. Because it’s not the first time to lose cuz AGS didn’t do good on their jobs. But I just wanna say. The game is shit. The manager is shit. Their jobs did like shit!

[eternal fern]

we've got that past trauma

[rose jewel]

6k hours, still playing

[rich leaf]

it is what it is

[rose jewel]

i think the game is not that bad

it got you hooked good

that's a W for ags

[hollow scroll]

6k hours is ridiculous

[rich leaf]

well its more like if u put in 1k hrs it would feel bad to quit

[rose jewel]

it really is

[rich leaf]

then it just keeps on going

[rose jewel]

im 2k in and i think thats a freakin lot

but well i work full time

[hollow scroll]

its like 2/3rds of the time since release

[eternal fern]

6k hours is a whole lot

[hollow scroll]

boy go to sleep or step outside

[eternal fern]

thats like 75% of a year?

[rose jewel]

12hrs a day or more

probably

i cant

i would die

[eternal fern]

year is like 8k and some change hours?

[maiden locust]

nope

[sand lion]

If you did scrolling message for tips every time. You should to keep do it

[hollow scroll]

destiny been out longer

[eternal fern]

im confused

[rose jewel]

yeah but destiny has been going since when

[eternal fern]

what are you trying to say with this?

[rose jewel]

lost ark is 1year old

6k in 1y is a massive amount

[maiden locust]

dont mind me, im special sory

[rose jewel]

to the point it gets not only ridiculous, but also alarming

[eternal fern]

9.5k is over a year btw

let that sink in

[maiden locust]

https://tenor.com/view/jayz-awkward-oof-yikes-reaction-gif-25603930

[eternal fern]

you spend more than a full year with the game open

[hollow scroll]

[rose jewel]

8760hrs for a full year

[eternal fern]

i dont want to know how many hours i had in tibia

[rose jewel]

he played more than 16 a day?? if im not stupid at math

[eternal fern]

played that game from 2001 till 2022

[hollow scroll]

man keeps his game open 24/7 and beats his chest at 6k hours

[eternal fern]

[hollow scroll]

[rose jewel]

thats alarming ngl

but well

if he can, good for him

[maiden locust]

ui know how much money he spent on electricity alone? come on bro give him props

[rose jewel]

glad he enjoy the game

[sand lion]

Dead game

[eternal fern]

game cant be dead its always going to live in ur head

[rose jewel]

you are playing a dead game

[sand lion]

Enjoy what. I just have to play with friends

[eternal fern]

you'll never forget those frog coins

[sand lion]

Not enjoy

[hollow scroll]

im a little ways off yet

[rose jewel]

only 1500 smh

wheres your 8k hrs

[hollow scroll]

[rose jewel]

and whats hearts of iron

[hollow scroll]

thats a lot

[bitter basalt]

u been here 20mins ago doing the same shit again, why do u even hang on here if u dont like the game tho?

[hollow scroll]

map game, idk why i played it

[rose jewel]

and for 3k hours

i guess the most time ive spent on a game was ragnarok online

[hollow scroll]

i mean average game is 6-8 hours

[rose jewel]

played that shit for like 6 years+

maybe 8 or 9

[sand lion]

Cuz I thought it is a official discord can really help us.

Is it?

[hollow scroll]

its not official

[rose jewel]

thefuck, and i thought my 1hr game on league was long

[maiden locust]

is summoner a good dps or is she a support?

[bitter basalt]

what u need help for bro? hating on the game?

[rose jewel]

summoner dps

cute pokemons

[hollow scroll]

a support summoner what

[bronze lance]

Hey guys reminder that this is not a discussion channel

[sand lion]

Help to fix some game problems

[rose jewel]

we've been here with Adamon discussing why is this game dead and why ags is shit at its job

[maiden locust]

im asking bish, idk if she is a dot dpser' or a debuffer like the spiritmaster from Aion, im trying to figure out if i want to play her or not homie

[hollow scroll]

i hear she is technically top dps

its the only mage i havent tried though

[rose jewel]

this game has dps and supports, thats it

[maiden locust]

thanks for sharing king

[rose jewel]

some dpses gives synergies, but they are not exclusively for debuffing

supports do the buff atk, debuff defense on enemy, shields and heals

dps can vary a bit, but ultimately they are for damage dealing

[sand lion]

Ok my bad. I thought it is a official discord for AGS

[rose jewel]

nope

its an unofficial one

welcome c:

[sand lion]

Sorry guys.

[maiden locust]

what can i do to get more vern passes

[rose jewel]

np, mistakes happen

[rose jewel]

2 per account for free, that's it, the rest you can buy or use knowledge transfer (9times for now)

[maiden locust]

create new account cuh

oh okay thank you guys

[rose jewel]

oh wait

no

per region

that was pepega from me

but still

[maiden locust]

no idea what pepega means but ur good 💀 appreciate the help

[twin vapor]

what happens if my game crashes mid chaos dungeon?

[rose jewel]

2 north vern for free per region*

[sand lion]

But it’s dead game still. Stop it. Burning ur money and waste ur time.

[maiden locust]

so if i want to make my summoner nice and tier 3 i can transfer knowledge from my beautiful sexy sorc to my summoner?

[rose jewel]

lost entry, out of luck, no drops

[maiden locust]

at my boy let people enjoy what they wanna

[rose jewel]

i mean

im not 6k hours in to think its a waste

only 2, but i have fun in it

if it dies tomorrow so be it

i still find it fun so i will keep playing it

[maiden locust]

i just started playing a little over a week ago

[sand lion]

[maiden locust]

the only other mmo i played was wizard101 lmao

[sand lion]

Good luck

[rose jewel]

classic

[eternal fern]

man just reading that brought back flashbacks

[rich leaf]

how to change mvp pose?

[rose jewel]

Y

[maiden locust]

bro i grew up with wiz and toontown

[marsh dove]

Is there anybody on EUC Ezrebet that could help me with Shadowmoon Market Coop Quest?

[maiden locust]

so many memories

[rose jewel]

better luck asking in your region chat instead

this chat is more universal

[twin vapor]

wait I restarted and I'm where I left off

[rose jewel]

yeah but are there any mobs

[marsh dove]

Thx man

[rose jewel]

chaos dungeon has a 5 minutes per gate limit

after 5 mins the dungeon ends, no more mobs spawn, and if you're gate 1 or 2 no portal spawns

[twin vapor]

it crashed as soon as I went to the next gate

[rose jewel]

as i said, out of luck

had that happen to me

[hollow scroll]

if you didnt move the timer wont start

[rose jewel]

nothing can be done, take the L and move to the next one

[twin vapor]

yeah the timer didnt start and when I moved, mobs spawned

[rose jewel]

ok then good luck

i asked if there were any mobs

didnt get an answer so i guessed it was at 0 timer

and yes my game crashed mid mob massacre

[twin vapor]

all good. I should've added more detail

[rose jewel]

details are always welcome

[hollow scroll]

[rose jewel]

like, people ask "how to hone my gear"

and i cant just give an answer

turned out they had the blue 1302 gear at +15, and you literally cant hone that anymore

besides many more examples

[rich leaf]

wei card in annikka naw

[eternal fern]

you really asking if breaking tos is going to get you banned?

[rigid plank]

you know already, RMT is a bannable offense

[rose jewel]

dude like

[rigid plank]

[rose jewel]

"if i do something illegal will i get punished"

common sense please?

[rich leaf]

bruh did he just delete his msgs

[rose jewel]

of course he did

[twin vapor]

he really didnt wanna get caught huh'

[rose jewel]

he should be glad this was not the official discord

[rich leaf]

._.

[rose jewel]

godspeed to him

if he has to ask things like that

[wintry mauve]

Wtf was he expecting ppl to say

[rose jewel]

he just wanted that skin for cheaper

because p2w game

amazon scummy

[vagrant veldt]

Maybe it's like "do they actually enforce" or something

[wintry mauve]

Ofc ofc makes sense

[rich leaf]

also in case anyone missed it, wei card in annika naw

[rose jewel]

not enviska, i sleep

[rich leaf]

oh, shandi

sadge

[eternal fern]

that good? do i for you?

[rose jewel]

and if it was enviska i would have cried

coz im at work

mfer always spawns when im at work or sleeping

[rich leaf]

i was gonna cry, people keep trolling wei cards in lostmerchant

[wintry mauve]

Wei is up in Delphi township for shandi rn

Got 5 min

[rich leaf]

yea alrdy grabbed it

[wintry mauve]

Love to see it

[rose jewel]

no enviska

🛌

[snow bone]

is it possible to change hyper express character?

[near cove]

Before honing past 1415 on any piece yes

[snow bone]

i cant find the option tho

[near cove]

Sorry honing to 1415

It'sin the line after engraving support little to the left

Left side of the menu

[rose jewel]

look closer

the button is there

also

just ONCE, you can only switch ONCE

[near cove]

I think it's like a small triangle with a exclamation

[snow bone]

yes i want to switch once. im searching the button rn

[near cove]

It's on left top ish

Stupid small tho

Almost like they never wanted us to find it 😂

[snow bone]

wait a sec. i can use hyper express till 1445?

i found the button finally btw

xd

[rose jewel]

1415

[snow bone]

is it worth keeping it to make it to 1445 or change it so i can make my second main 1415?

oh

[rose jewel]

anything afterwards you get a massive giant popup warning you that you cant switch it after

[snow bone]

but does it help from 1415 to 1445 or nah?

[rose jewel]

it does

switching is only BEFORE 1415, or at 1415

if you hone even ONCE (succeed or fail) then that char is locked with the hyper forever

[snow bone]

is it worth changing it or keep pushing to 1445?

[rose jewel]

that is something only you can answer

[snow bone]

i mean gold wise

[rose jewel]

you will NOT get whatever rewards you already claimed

you pick and stay with the hyper on a char you wanna hone higher faster

thats it

its not about worth, not about gold

its about you wanting to help the char

end rewards are the same

[snow bone]

i guess ill stick with main. i thought i was only until 1415. ty for help

[rose jewel]

the switching

but again, no 2x rewards

anything already claimed is already claimed

just keep on main and get main to 1460

stronghold research

[snow bone]

thats very helpful ty

[near cove]

The event gives you enough mats to push 1460

Including gold if you are lucky

[rose jewel]

ehhh

i wouldnt call the mats enough

[snow bone]

if im a bit lucky

[rose jewel]

maybe if you 1tap

but

at 5% chance, i doubt it

[near cove]

Ye 1 1 tap will sorts even it out

It's like 400 or something leaps right

[rose jewel]

event helps

but wont give you everything

just look at it like that

so if you end up not getting there you wont be dissapointed

[near cove]

600 leaps xD

He will prob get stuck behind oreahs tho

Only 120

So ye

[hollow scroll]

you would need insane luck to reach 1460 straight off from hyper express

you can reach it though, helps if you are already in the 1400s when you start

[pine plume]

the transition between honing at 30% to 5% with gold is a little bit rude for new player 😄 the road to 1460 will be hard 😄

[rose jewel]

they are hit with reality way harder than usual

[pine plume]

they are hit more later, then it's ok 🙂

[rose jewel]

at least they can get to the real good stuff easier

[pine plume]

yes clear

[rose jewel]

then they are gatekept

[pine plume]

yes perhaps 🙂 one problem at time 😄

[eternal fern]

finally at the final stretch of story express

this journey took longer than i expected tbh

[maiden locust]

wasn't gold requirement for gear honing removed until 1445?? i am still being charged

[pine plume]

yes it is, no gold required until 1445 🙂

I'm at 1445 on road to 1460 😄

[maiden locust]

AGS hates me

[craggy tusk]

You are at 1445.

[rigid plank]

all +17 is 1445 though anything past that is gold hone req

[maiden locust]

need the weapon cuh

[craggy tusk]

Right

But the honing is when the ITEM is 1445

[maiden locust]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-4481209

when u so dumb u need to end it,

[rose jewel]

everyone was new at some point

and the game isnt exactly the best at explaining things

[wise juniper]

Do we have a date of bel hard release? Or if not what's our best guess?

[rose jewel]

soon ™️

[wise juniper]

It's all but guarantee to release in the month of april right? Even if it's towards the tail end?

[craggy tusk]

Yes. Bad things could happen, but yes.

[wise juniper]

Do we think they'll reduce honing cost somewhere between 1445 and 1490 when bre hard releases? Any clues from what happened in korea/what they said/anything?

[rose jewel]

we dont have akkan, nor will we for a long time

expect nothing

be surprised

like with the gold nerf

[wise juniper]

We don't quite follow the korean version exactly right? For example the pre-1445 honing cost changes that just happened(no gold cost and massively decreased mats). Is this something the koreans have too? Exactly the same? Similar? Not at all?

And you mentioned akkan specifically, is that a point where the koreans got honing reductions somewhere?

Sorry so many questions just trying to understand what we're dealing with so I can plan better lol.

[rose jewel]

well, with akkan (after, i dont remember exactly when) they got a -40% shard decrease cost

then with the gold nerfs due to inflation etc they got the 2x raid mats and hone buffs etc, if im not mistaken

but they got both valtan and vykas nerfed to the ground

like, in our version valtan still gives 3k, they got it to around 1.5k~

we got vykas for 4.5k, untouched, they have it for like 1.8

but im guessing thats because we're not at where kr is at

[rigid plank]

ye Valtan/Vykas was a huge gen of gold for KR so those got nerfed hard, gold removed and mat reduction is up to 1460 for KR compared to 1445 for us, our economy in general is vastly different to KR's

[rose jewel]

akkan, kayangel

oh also argos

so, we sooner or later were gonna have the nerfs, but they actually slightly nerfed valtan only, compared to the massive cut kr had

[craggy tusk]

It's still daunting for players to realize that the average amount of leaps from 1445 to 1490 is 5000.

[wise juniper]

So all honing costs beyond 1460 as exactly as we see here as they are in korea? I'd imagine they'd have more discounts because they're still alot more ahead.

[rose jewel]

idk if we got the shard cut or not

otherwise same gold same mats

[rigid plank]

generally yes, the new player is on average 1490 because its so easy to get there

the costs in low t3 get reduced in proportion to high content above 1600+, it'll happen for us over time

[wise juniper]

Interesting.

Yeah I'm trying to decide if I should hone my alts to 1490 now or wait 2-3 weeks for bre hard release and the possible honing cost reductions that could come up to that point. So I'm trying to see if korea has similar patterns we can expect or something like that. But seems like it's unlikely 1445-1490 would change at that point right? If you guys had to guess?

[rigid plank]

I wouldnt bank on cost reduction to 1490 any time soon

[somber roost]

btw is this gold counter correct .-. is crazy how 1445 alts park there mean while my main 1475 does almost the same jesss i need to push those to 1460 asap

https://www.laplanr.com/gold-planner

[rigid plank]

the only time i can think of honing nerf to 1490 is when KR gets thaemine or even kazeros

[slim yarrow]

Would anyone be able to join a voice channel with me? I just got back into the game after a LONG hiatus and would really like to pick someone brain that knows the game. I've been going through YouTube videos at nauseum and would like to talk to a person

[wise juniper]

Ok that makes sense. If even korea doesn't have it yet and they're raid tiers ahead of us, we probably won't see it any time soon at all then.

[somber roost]

man this gatekeep is annyoing even if i push those 4 alts from 1445 to 1460 because they aren't 5x3 i wont find lobby AHHHH

[wise juniper]

Thank you all for your inputs

[somber roost]

btw check out that wbe so good

[wary lintel]

where is signum

[somber roost]

u only need to type ur alts lv and how many and show u all the gold income

[wary lintel]

oof

anybody knows if kr has a way to drop select packs for all rarities?

[rose jewel]

?

uh, no idea, like, a green selector?

we had one a while ago due to an event or some compensation idr

one of each green blue and purple

but the green didnt had solas

[wary lintel]

we had one purple only no?

[rose jewel]

i think i still have them

[wary lintel]

can u show them if u can , like if they have a special name?

[rose jewel]

but no idea if we can get them on a weekly basis

i would if i was home

[wary lintel]

i only know that we got epic with all cards not rare or uncomm

[wary lintel]

when u can

[rose jewel]

but it was the only packs we got under legendary that were selectable up till now

[wary lintel]

i remember only epic that i used

[rose jewel]

again, one of each, green, blue, purple

but i dont remember why we got them

[gleaming token]

what is the difference between honor and great honor leapstone

[pine plume]

2 different leapstone to hone different stuff

[gleaming token]

so can't use regular honor leapstone past 1370?

[tranquil flume]

guys what's the lowest stone you can have to get a 5x3 with only one engraving at legendary lvl?

[rose jewel]

you can either sell them (tradable) or transform them to greater (bound)

[rose jewel]

#info-dump message

[tranquil flume]

ty so much, a friend cut a 5/9 stone and I didn't know if that'd help him to get 5x3, seems that it can! 😄

[rose jewel]

gl with the class accesory

only thing that hurts

[tranquil flume]

oof, i'll let him know haha

[proper girder]

which is better, lower qual on ring with better negative engraving or higher qual on earring but with more negative engraving?

[timber mauve]

As long as you don’t actually activate (get 5+ nodes on malice), higher stats (qual) is always better.

[proper girder]

I know, but choosing the ring makes getting the 4 other accessories easier

[hybrid marsh]

Just look for the others before choosing that one then

[proper girder]

no

this one has the class engraving

it's the most important, then necklace and then you fill the rest

[timber mauve]

Wait a second, doesn’t eso need spec?

Or is it a split

[proper girder]

not 3 spender hallu

[timber mauve]

Ah

[noble ferry]

what is the current max ammount of skill points?

[timber mauve]

408?

[hybrid marsh]

If you're hovering two options you can still look at finding the rest if you haven't bought any and Calc what your total malice would be before this

Interest list pretty handy for these things

[noble ferry]

oh wow, im actually only missing like 3 pots

just gotta drop the goddamn omnium star smh

[timber mauve]

I mean, you can use the in game codex to check what you’re missing

[normal tiger]

does anyone know if u have a brel wep with medium quality and crafted a valtan wep with high quality, do i have to get the valtan wep to brel first to be able to convert the quality?

[rose jewel]

why in the world are you crafting a valtan weapon when you already have a brel weapon

[normal tiger]

cause im clueless 🗿

[rose jewel]

yeah i can see that

[normal tiger]

is it working tho

[rose jewel]

legit no idea

[normal tiger]

like upgrading to brel and then being able to transfer quali

[rose jewel]

the only thing i can think of is something like

[shut pasture]

Why would you go to the efforts of that when you can just use the quality upgrade NPC?

[rose jewel]

crafting a brel weapon (leave at +0), hone transfer that unhoned valtan to unhoned brel

then hone transfer brel to brel

[inland grove]

which life skill is rec for using life energy? hoping for efficient/effective gold?

[rose jewel]

but

idk if that actually works

[normal tiger]

guess ill try that out 😄

[rose jewel]

what quality is the valtan

and the brel

[normal tiger]

90+

65

[rose jewel]

pf

gl with that

guess its worth to try

but do it at your own risk

[timber mauve]

I want whatever fine and aged blend of copium this dude is on

[pseudo atlas]

you can't transfer +0 valtan to brel afaik

isn't it +18 minimum

they have to hone that valtan up and then transfer and then hone up to where the other weapon is which is a massive waste

[dreamy bluff]

yea i believe the minimum is 18.

[rose jewel]

actually yeah

kinda forgot the details

[dreamy bluff]

thats why you get the warning message when u try to hone past 18

[rose jewel]

so he's ultra fucked haha

poor lad

[normal tiger]

oh no xD

[shut pasture]

Yeah you...you can't do that

Believe me, if anything like that was a thing that could be loopholed or whatever it would have already been done and we'd literally be seeing guides on it

lol

[rose jewel]

he had 10 claws and a dream

[timber mauve]

I mean, people gotta keep in mind this game has been out for years. Just about anything that can be done already has guides on it.

[shut pasture]

And KR gets systems months before we're going to see them

Like the Elixirs

They figure out all the stuff before we see it, we're not likely to figure out some new crazy trick for something that has had months+ of other people toying around with it

[pliant pivot]

they have honing nerf for brel gear already

[rose jewel]

i just forgot about the +18 on valtan wep

but yep

[normal tiger]

can u transfer a wep with +x to sth with higher +x? xD

[dreamy bluff]

KR has kalengal and Akkan raid ahead of us. i think they got another new one too but not sure

[shut pasture]

You mean like +10 to a +15?

[normal tiger]

ye

[shut pasture]

No.

[normal tiger]

just for the quali i mean

[shut pasture]

No.

[normal tiger]

F

[shut pasture]

If there were loopholes we'd know because everyone would do them lol

[dreamy bluff]

you can only transfer a higher iLevel to a lower ilevel one. but the gear being transferred need to be of lower rank to the one receiving the transfer

[shut pasture]

Just gotta use quality upgrade like everyone else

[dreamy bluff]

also crafting cost way more then just quality tapping

[pseudo atlas]

you can't transfer honed gear onto honed gear at all

[dreamy bluff]

weapon craft is 1k gold + weapon mats. weapon quality tapping is only 800g

[pseudo atlas]

isn't it more than that to quality tap? though less than 1k

300g quality tap is armor i think

[dreamy bluff]

lemme check i dont remember

weapon is 800 yea. was wrong

armor is 300. was looking at armor earlier and confused them

[rigid plank]

What do you mean specifically? are you saying in regards to the shard reduction? the thing i was talking about was up to 1490, not past it

[pliant pivot]

o

[shut pasture]

They also have Voldaik which has a 4(?) boss Abyssal Dungeon

[dreamy bluff]

yea voldaik was the 3rd one i was thinking of

we are 3 raids behind korea

is Voldaik for lvl4 set bonus?

[shut pasture]

Uh I don't think so

[rigid plank]

It's for elixir, another new system for power progression

[shut pasture]

Okay yeah thats what it was

[dreamy bluff]

oh. since clown was lvl2, kalangel lvl3. kinda thought voldaik woud be 4

[shut pasture]

Its also gold income, uses one of your weekly raid runs

It is itself however not an Abyss Raid, it is still an Abyss Dungeon

Had people get confused on that before

[maiden locust]

What does PLC mean in brel lobbies

[pliant pivot]

phantom legion commander

they are asking u for the title

[maiden locust]

aha

thx

[fiery prairie]

I'm new and playing shadow hunter rn, but I've been reading that theres a lot of horizontal progression needed in the class with wealth runes. What does this mean

[old peak]

Means you need to do collectibles

[amber totem]

Horizontal is things like Rapport, omnium stars, etc. You should try and do them over time anyway as Skill potions are the most important thing you can get from them, followed by runes like wealth etc

[weak lion]

i got my set of 302 armor, do i hone that right away or is there other armor i can get, or do i need to hone this set bc its all i get till get to tier 2?

[amber totem]

thats the only set you need to get to Tier 2

You hone that one up. 600 (iirc) is when T2 starts.

[weak lion]

ok good, so theres just 1 set of armor

thats, so weird compared to other games

[amber totem]

it changes later on, T1 and T2 are just introductions after all

[weak lion]

ah ok then

hope we get transmog evetually, some of the leveling armors are cool

[torpid stratus]

Is it better to hone brel weapon from 17-20 or hone 12 armor pieces?

[amber spruce]

why does it keep saying insufficent quest requirement in the race envet?

i don't even see the quest in the zone?

[pseudo atlas]

check your alts

[amber spruce]

for real? fk me

[amber totem]

brel 20 weapon cost is pretty well equivalent to 12-19 cost

[torpid stratus]

no, its equivalent to 17-19

unless you are talking about armor piece from 12-19

[amber totem]

Average Armour :

Average +20 Weapon :

You'll probably want weapon to +20 anyway, so it really depends on what your goal is.

If your roster is established enough you can just push enough armour to hit 1520, then just smash then weapon to 20.

keep in mind you will be infinitely silver poor

[hollow scroll]

there is abyss sets

t1 isnt too bad

[weak lion]

are there many cosmetics you can earn in game? i was looking at the raport stuff in my Stronghold, are those skins i can wear on any character

[buoyant herald]

those are skins npcs can wear in your stronghold

[hollow scroll]

some of them are

[buoyant herald]

there arent really any cosmetics you can earn apart from event stuff
you can buy any outfit in the market place
ppl buy them for cash and sell for gold

[weak lion]

yeah i saw that, thats kinda neat

do i need to bother with engravings and stones at tier 1, faceting stuff is wild, 75% chance and it fails twice in a row

[buoyant herald]

XD nah dont bother

if you are doing story express just quest to tier 3 and t hen you can figure it out

[weak lion]

im sitting on chest and chests of engravings that i dont really know what to do with, i think i need to look at what engravings are common across the calsses i wanna play and use them

[buoyant herald]

dont do anything with it

just put it away to storage

[weak lion]

so just hold onto all of it till later

[buoyant herald]

yes

[weak lion]

cool

[buoyant herald]

only open when you know you need something in the box

[untold elbow]

in brel g3, if someone dies before shapes, should I take his shape + mine or just take mine

[dreamy bluff]

you dont want to need a new engrave only to see that its going for 500 on marketplace right after u wasted 20books on another engraving you dont need

[buoyant herald]

if you take more than 3 shapes you die
if you take less than 3 of the same shape you die
only shapes that have to be taken are the stars in the middle

[dreamy bluff]

at worse if you have no space, create a throwaway alt and make it your personal banker

[old peak]

@maiden locust I did it... my ugly GS is finally T3

Heck yeah I feel like a lost ark player

:O

[amber totem]

[old peak]

And I get free argos gear when I finish Punika

[maiden locust]

lez go

welcome to the club

[weak lion]

as a newer player which potion battle item shoulkd i be getting from the chests

is it just better to take the purple ones or do i need to get a stock of the other colors

[maiden locust]

kidna depends on your char

I mean your build

[weak lion]

i did my first guardian raid the other day solo and didnt realise i couldnt use normal pots

[maiden locust]

people with cursed doll usually take blue or purple, cant take green, people without it takes green sometimes

me as a support running expert, only blue is needed fills my whole health

[weak lion]

should i bother with other battle items atm, or hold onto them,

like the grenades

[rose jewel]

what ilv are you again

[weak lion]

380

[rose jewel]

nah

too early to think about them

[weak lion]

cool

[rose jewel]

blue pots are the most recommended

you think on purples only for progging raids

[weak lion]

am i likely to get matchmaking games for dungeon stuff at this ilvl

[amber totem]

no

[rose jewel]

nope

this is a solo game until tier 3

its not but you get the point

[weak lion]

what about the Abyssal Dungeon

will i find other t1 people running that? says it needs 4

[maiden locust]

probably not

your best luck is finding a card run lobby that takes you for body count

[amber totem]

dont worry about abyss dungeons for now

[maiden locust]

but highly unlikely

[rose jewel]

50 50

[weak lion]

alright

[old peak]

Does anyone know how to install the Korean voice packages? I was using it previously but when I came back to the game it stopped working and now I can't figure it out

I really dislike the english va's :D

[rose jewel]

dlc

[old peak]

o.o

[silk shard]

If you are in the Netherlands

[rose jewel]

exactly

dlc

[silk shard]

You cant get it

[old peak]

Dlc?

Like, on steam?

[silk shard]

@old peak yeah its in steam store

Freelc

But in some countries you cant download it

[old peak]

Ah ok found it

thanks

[maiden locust]

theoretically you could

[silk shard]

Nope

It used to be available

Got removed

Roxx said they would fix but never did

[old peak]

Working for me thankfully. It doesn't make any sense to do it this way.. it was all in-game .-.

[silk shard]

Someone would basically have to send me the files

[maiden locust]

I mean the ENTIRE game is not available in my region, and been playing it just fine xd

there's a way to access it

[silk shard]

@maiden locust where you from

[maiden locust]

Africa

[silk shard]

Lost Ark is completely blocked over there?

Interesting

[maiden locust]

yeah lostark is region locked to NA/EU only + the original RU/KO

anyway basically to access it you have to run a vpn on your browser, open the steam page from browser press install and select "Steam is installed" then steam will download and use it just fine

same thing goes for the DLC

[silk shard]

Hmm just tried it

Doesnt seem to work

Its probably cause my steam account itself is bound to NL

[maiden locust]

Weird, just tried it now and worked just fine

[silk shard]

@maiden locust did you login on the steam website

Via browser

[maiden locust]

no

I just opened the page of the dlc > pressed on download > steam asked how I wan to continue > I pressed on Stea mis installed

took few secs then steam started downloading

[silk shard]

o k that worked

Hopefuly dont have to do it every update

[maiden locust]

nah, one time thing, now just enjoy the game normally

have fun

[silk shard]

@maiden locust oh almost 3000 hours in already

So im enjoying it quite a bit

To say the least

[maiden locust]

[amber spruce]

what's best way to get shards?

[amber totem]

chaos dungeons

Do them every day

[rose jewel]

"best"? buy from AH

otherwise yes

[amber spruce]

[amber totem]

Sources include : Event shop (great source), Brel/Clown shop, Chaos Line shop, Chaos dungeons, Ghost ship, Chaos gate maps

Arkpass

[hollow scroll]

[amber spruce]

nah it's for a friend and his char is 1395 so no clow/brel

but ty

[amber totem]

Event shop

[hollow scroll]

are you the friend

at that point they should have alts to funnel also

[amber totem]

funneling shards pretty tough

so expensive on market

[hollow scroll]

i mean you can sell leaps

[amber spruce]

it is an alt, one that uses hyper, he only got 1415,1400,1340

[amber totem]

Thronespire?

done that? level 25 gives good shards

[amber spruce]

doubt that's doable with 1400 or even 1415 right?

[amber totem]

probably not

[amber spruce]

i remember doing it with like 1460 or so

[bitter basalt]

hey, whats a good mining spot? up to punika

[amber totem]

But those are the options. If he doesn't want to grind for them he just has to do all dailies and do Naruni racing once a day and clear out the shop for shards

[rose jewel]

think it was star sandbeach?

[amber totem]

Meteora is the best mining spot https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/island/meteora

[rose jewel]

i guess a t3 spot doesnt hurt to mention

[amber totem]

for sure

if hes at punika though doubt hes at 30 yet

or even 20

[bitter basalt]

really meteora? punika has a lot of t2 nodes, arent these better?

[amber totem]

its about speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed

[rose jewel]

what do you wanna do

level up the skill or gather mats

[bitter basalt]

mats

[rose jewel]

the most mats*

well punika i guess then

lv30 stones have higher chance for more mats

and rare mats

[bitter basalt]

im still at lvl 15 so year no 30

[amber totem]

yeah head to meteora. Leave a bifrost there with your life skilling character (hopefully high swiftness)

[maiden locust]

how do i get phoen ?

i wanna buy sum on the tm but it required phoen

[amber totem]

Pheon is pretty rare. You have very few options to obtain them. Event shop has some, login rewards has some too.

[rose jewel]

blue crystals

which you buy for gold

[maiden locust]

mhmmm

[amber totem]

BC to pheon is the normal way to get them

[maiden locust]

how many bc ?

[rose jewel]

850 for 100

[amber totem]

they have a couple of packages. Check out the shop in F4.

[rose jewel]

press F4

check store

and to buy blues, check currency exchange

[amber totem]

if you're a new player using gold to buy BCs will be very difficult

(region dependent)

Though someone said that BCs have become easier to purchase even in NAW atm

[west rampart]

guys how fix my discord roles ?

i can not remove mains roles

[amber totem]

you should be able to click on them again and it removes it.

[maiden locust]

me: wants to buy skin my first skin in LA
trade market : AYO U WANNA SPEND 200 GOLD ON A SKIN??? WHERE MY 10 PHEON

[amber totem]

I had to try a few times to change to Slayer main role

[amber totem]

If its 10, check the Event shop for Naruni racing. You can buy that amount there.

[hollow scroll]

skins dont cost peeons?

[maiden locust]

u sure?

xD

[hollow scroll]

never noticed

[zealous patio]

how many horns is 1-4 again including buying the bonus chest

[amber totem]

Check event shop

100%

[hollow scroll]

must be where all mine go

[amber totem]

ez pheon

[maiden locust]

ye got 10 rn

gotta get 10 more doe

[hollow scroll]

do your dailies like guardian, chaos and youll get event tokens

same with abyss if you’re in ilvl range

[amber totem]

Just about any daily/weekly content gives you tokens

If you have enough characters you should clean out the shop completely every week

[echo owl]

skins that are tradable 3 times don’t cost pheons

otherwise it costs 10 for 0-2 times tradable

[hollow scroll]

either you look good or have 5x3 , your choice

[torpid stratus]

Im 1540 currently, so its either going for more dps in the +20 weapon, or getting ready for brel hard and going for 1560

[amber totem]

Yeah smash the weapon. It'll feel good to have +20s.

[torpid stratus]

Gotta save gold for like atleast 2-3 more weeks then

The weapon is a bitch to upgrade, gotta buy the enhancement mats also

[thin token]

I would get all alts to 1540 first

main 6 i mean

[torpid stratus]

Meh i dont really care about them

Deathblade is the only class i find fun anyways

They are just there as gold and silver slaves

[pseudo atlas]

time to replace them all with db alts

[thin token]

1540 is more ancient acessories and more gold

[shut pasture]

Would just like to point out that this is not mandatory to play like this lol

[maiden locust]

guys, how can i get trusted in tm ? they said activate steam guard thing but idk it is activated for some reason even tho i didnt do it. and i aint getting an email for it on my web email either

any other way i can tell them im not a bot

[torpid stratus]

True, but i dont really care about efficiency etc. I just wanna make my deathblade a powerhouse

[amber totem]

You have to spend 5 bucks on steam as well

[shut pasture]

If you want to, go for it, but for the average player thats just the first step in the recipe for burnout

[amber totem]

And then wait

[maiden locust]

wait what

[amber totem]

yes

[maiden locust]

i need to give steam 5 bucks ?

[amber totem]

Yes

[maiden locust]

does it count if i did it before?

[torpid stratus]

Yes

[maiden locust]

or does it need to be fresh made ?

[amber totem]

It should be fine if you've spent more than 5 previously I guess?

[torpid stratus]

Yes, it counts if you spent before

[maiden locust]

huh weird okay...

[amber totem]

After that its just waiting game. Can't speed it up at all.

[maiden locust]

i mean i spent like 70 + before just on other stuff

[amber totem]

But no steam guard?

[torpid stratus]

Yeah should be fine, you just need steam guard on your PHONE. Email doesnt work

[maiden locust]

steam guard is active it tells me

but doesnt react

[amber totem]

yeah gotta wait

[maiden locust]

i cant login to my steam on phone since i need email code from steam guard

but email says : nah ah u not getting a code

[torpid stratus]

That also happened to me, and i never could activate steam guard on my phone on another account

The code simply does not arrive

[maiden locust]

all im getting atm is league codes to login for some reason... since im not even tryna login on league xd

[maiden locust]

how did u get ur tm to work ?

[torpid stratus]

Simply did not, thats a spare steam of mine, and i cant get it to work

[maiden locust]

wow....

thats one reason why i hate steam and amazon xd

does anyone else know a way how to get it done ?

[rose jewel]

what done

[rich leaf]

hes not receiving login code on his email

[rose jewel]

for what

[maiden locust]

hey folks, so mid game wise, 1432 ish, whats the best approach to transition to the next gear?

steam @rose jewel

[balmy gulch]

is it widely known that people never buy lv8 gems on the AH? had one for sale for over a day at lowest market value

[maiden locust]

steam guard code

[harsh oriole]

hello, does the crystalline $20 trick still work?

[rose jewel]

? uhh

are you trying to get trusted?

because it does NOT work via mail, DOES NOT, it has to be via phone

[rose jewel]

1445 is where you can craft relic gears next, so all 17

[rich leaf]

get to 1445, once ur there, u can craft relic gearsets

[rose jewel]

first, 1day is nothing, second, prices of everything are going down slowly, third, lv7 or lv9

[maiden locust]

thank you kind guys I appreciate it, wish i had an active guild that understood we're all old fucks with jobs and paying bills.

[rose jewel]

lv8 is trolling

[balmy gulch]

not lv8? could you explain why its trolling

[rose jewel]

its like lv6

the power spike is really low

not worth the effort, people just go directly to 7

same for 8, go from 7 to 9

[balmy gulch]

so buying and selling doesnt usually happen for lv8?

[rose jewel]

then people either stay with 9s or they buy to gamba

they do

but not as much compared to 7s or 9s

[pseudo atlas]

trolling isn't the right word for it, people just don't bother with it

[rose jewel]

you're trolling kaiki i mean kinda

[hollow scroll]

hone to 1445 and start running valtan hm for relic set mats, working towards 1460 for vykas hm

[rose jewel]

im just lazy to think on intelligent coherent words

"not as desired"

[hollow scroll]

people only use 7s because they are the first legendary

[pseudo atlas]

it's objectively still an increase over lv7, but having a full set of lv7s is probably better than having a few lv8s unless you're on one of those classes that only use like 2 gems

[maiden locust]

yes i know im tryna login to my steam on phone but it wants a steam guard code.

[hollow scroll]

[rose jewel]

or its a needed gem for some setups

[rich leaf]

also the cost of rerolling for skills

[rose jewel]

like, sorc no? DD lv8

[balmy gulch]

sounds good, thanks for explaining signum, i wonder if i should sell the lv8 and just buy a 9, or buy 2 more 8's and roll a 9

[rich leaf]

its kind of a pain to reroll every time u get a higher lvl and very expensive

[hollow scroll]

just buy the gem you need

[rose jewel]

i mean you can just stay with our lv8, or sell and buy 3 7s

[pseudo atlas]

unless you have infinite silver or the luck of gods, you just buy the gem you need

[rose jewel]

but yeah its not recommended to roll gems

specially 7 upwards

take a lot of silver

[balmy gulch]

i dropped 10m on rerolling the lv8 and gave up

[hollow scroll]

why

[amber totem]

Fusing level 9s and getting a CD will be the epitome of despair

[balmy gulch]

massive oversight on my part

[amber totem]

also wasting 10m silver on a level 8, also despair

[balmy gulch]

didnt care in the moment

[rose jewel]

lv10 DD gem tho

[hollow scroll]

just cant stop pressing roll

[pseudo atlas]

cd lv9 is still worth enough to somewhat offset cost of buying a good lv9 gem though

[hollow scroll]

once you start

[balmy gulch]

i see my desired skill on a lv9 atk gem for 140k

is that a good price

[amber totem]

gems have dropped quite a bit (naw for reference)

level 7 was ~21k, now I believe they are lik 14-15

[pseudo atlas]

you compare it to the equivalent of buying 3 lv8 gems or the cheapest lv9 gem and the difference is basically how much gold you're willing to spend instead of rerolling millions of silver

[hollow scroll]

its been 14-15k for level 7 on euc for a while now

kinda smoge

[amber totem]

pretty cheap really

[balmy gulch]

11k for lv7 in EU

[amber totem]

I might try and deck out my favourite characters with level 7 soon

11k wtf

[hollow scroll]

[balmy gulch]

whole first page under 12k

[rich leaf]

11k ??? for lvl 7?

[hollow scroll]

undercuts

[balmy gulch]

4 pages

[torpid stratus]

11k in EUC yeah

[maiden locust]

ok got code now...

[balmy gulch]

lv8 34/35k

[maiden locust]

do i have to wait till its done with verification ? or just relog ?

[amber totem]

level 8 is wasted

[balmy gulch]

lv9 over 130k

[amber totem]

yeah its basic maths most of hte time

[balmy gulch]

i wont push my luck with silver again, id rather pay gold

[amber totem]

yes its much easier and you get what you want

[pseudo atlas]

so 9 lv7 gems costs ~108k and the difference is 32k gold that instead of spending gold you would use silver to reroll (which has no upper bound)

[amber totem]

Are you EUW kytex?

[balmy gulch]

euc

[amber totem]

[balmy gulch]

after gold nerfs im earning almost nothing tho

[hollow scroll]

[amber totem]

then maybe its time to stop focusing on level 9 gems and focus on bringing up your roster

gotta invest to make more later on after all

[pseudo atlas]

if you're earning nearly no gold then you shouldn't at all be spending on lv9 gems

[old peak]

question - the legendary selection pack that you get from challenge dungeons... how much do those typically go for? :D

[hollow scroll]

bring alts up to level

[pseudo atlas]

what ilvl are you even

[amber totem]

level 9 gems are luxury lol

[rose jewel]

unless he's parked at 1415

no way he's making no gold at all

[pseudo atlas]

last 3 i saw went for 40-50k in nae

[balmy gulch]

yeah, although after the nerf im slowly quitting the game, only playing 2/3 chars maximum

[old peak]

Jesus I just saw one go for 1.5k and one for 10k

[pseudo atlas]

lucky them

[old peak]

o_o

[hollow scroll]

i havent seen a legendary in challenge abyss yet

[pseudo atlas]

that's a lot more than "almost nothing" in that roster

[amber totem]

when I was new someone bid 50k on one. It really helped

[old peak]

We got 2 back to back

[cerulean stone]

I guess it depends on server, in valtan, random goes to atleast 6-10k selection is 30k at best

[pseudo atlas]

server doesn't matter, region matters

[balmy gulch]

keep in mind i have not learnt vykas

[amber totem]

no way valtan can go for way higher

ive seen 60-70k

50k average

[hollow scroll]

why not

[amber totem]

NAW has the biggest whales

[cerulean stone]

the whales already bought them long time ago

[balmy gulch]

way less appealing for learning/prog groups, i spent my time on clown/brel instead

[harsh oriole]

Hello guys, for the $20 crystalline aura, is it possible that I use it only for every 30 days instead of using it all in one go just incase I take a break from game in between those days? Or they might patch it soon?

[hollow scroll]

vykas hm hasnt been nerfed, yet, plenty of gold

[pseudo atlas]

i have also seen selections go for 10k (personally got one myself at that price early on) because rng dictates sometimes people in your matchmaking doing challenge abyss don't have the gold or desire to buy the select pack

[rose jewel]

haha

me with 3.2k gold

[hollow scroll]

but only 2 can run clown and brel

[last swallow]

Can I delete uncommon cards?

[pseudo atlas]

i've seen leg random pack and selector pack drop in the same run too and i'm pretty sure people were deciding how to spend because the random pack was cheaper than usual

[last swallow]

No space in card book

[hollow scroll]

open up a row with bc

[last swallow]

How do I get bc?

Not enough

[hollow scroll]

real horizontal progression

[pseudo atlas]

you can delete cards in finished collections that you don't ever plan on awakening

[rose jewel]

the aura that costs 20 for every server you go in? its not a bug, they cant fix something when its not broken

if you go afk for 30 days and you just bought and used the aura, aura goes poof

[harsh oriole]

Yes.

[pseudo atlas]

people recommend just saving the card packs and opening only leg/uncommon or something like that

[rose jewel]

just buy the aura when youre sure youre not gonna go on hiatus

[maiden locust]

1500 SH having only 1 gem at lvl 10 (tier 2) asking why she no one want to join her party, I said "probably cuz of your t2 gem", got kicked

[harsh oriole]

I mean you get to buy 6pcs of 30 days aura right? And you're supposed to right click it to use it. Was just wondering if it might get patched soon since I plan to just right click it every 30 days incase I take a break in between haha.

[last swallow]

Hmm

[rose jewel]

patch what

its not a bug

[hollow scroll]

how much damage is a lvl 10 t2 gem? same as t3?

[rose jewel]

-50%

[harsh oriole]

Alrighty, thank you

[maiden locust]

mhhh

[hollow scroll]

well yeah but in t2 what is it? 40%?

[pseudo atlas]

the value should be the same, it just gets nerfed by 50%

[maiden locust]

am i gon save bc for a pet or am i gon buy pheon

[rose jewel]

same value, just dif. tier

[hollow scroll]

so a level 10 t2 is the same as a lvl 7 t3

el cheapo

[pseudo atlas]

should be something like that

[hollow scroll]

its memey but works

[pseudo atlas]

very high level t2 gems are things that are usable

dunno about worth, but still usable

[hollow scroll]

i would kick also if you didnt know that

[maiden locust]

the effect of the gem is not really the problem, it wasnt even demon skill

[pseudo atlas]

if people kicked for that then the party lead is just a dumbass, 15% or whatever is 15% regardless of how you get it

[hollow scroll]

were they ps ?