lost-ark-help

[brave rapids]

here's the book quests if you wanted to do them on the way: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JgPTZ_cwgi2keYK2NvA0Dq9hDUz9J8AzrlPmlCQj1j0/edit#gid=2079904319

you can also do these on alts later

[cunning radish]

hey guys

just got dced out of valtan g2

when i finally got back in didn't get rewards

anyone knkow best place to open a ticket for this?

have a ss of it as proof

[pseudo atlas]

you wait until they automatically decide whether or not to give you a ticket which takes up to two days

[brave rapids]

It's reset day lol

[devout cape]

Bro. How do you guys decide on alts?

[pseudo atlas]

so they can just do valtan tomorrow and then if they get a ticket they can do another g2

[devout cape]

Been mulling this crap over for days

[brave rapids]

Youtube: "[class engraving] Clown raid gameplay"

and then decide if you like it or not

[lusty moat]

i still dont get the callouts for vykas g2 at x65 hp how does it work and wtf is flex etc

[brave rapids]

thats how i do it

[lusty moat]

i know how mech works but dunno the callouts

[brave rapids]

3 numbers will be called out for 2 of the positions (11/5/7), and the last position will only have 2 numbers. there should be 2 flexes (if you're all alive), and so you split up and take the 3rd black ball from the correct positions.

for example:
11-234
5-135
7-14

flexes would go to 11 and 5

[devout cape]

Had done it for bel but I guess alts not realistically end up doing clown ?

[brave rapids]

i mean, if its your Gold-6 alts, they should probably be doing clown if you're comfortable doing it.

for the most gold, since Valtan+Argos just got gold nerfed

[lusty moat]

so flex are like reserve?

[brave rapids]

not really reserves, cuz that would be implying they're extras. They're necessary to complete the mechanic, the "flex" name just indicates that they need to be able to be flexible in which position they run to.

[shut pasture]

"flex" would be short for "flexible" in that context.

i.e they can do what would be necessary under whichever circumstances present themselves

[brave rapids]

^

There's also timestop cheesing, where 2 or even sometimes 1 person can eat all 3 balls to complete the mechanic

[lusty moat]

i seeee thanks

[brave rapids]

i think nowadays i mostly see people call a side of the map when they're flex. like "11/7 flex" means they're on the top left, willing to either position 11 or 7 o clock.

[lusty moat]

one more question what does the 234 in the 11-234 mean?

[amber totem]

those are the orbs that need to be eaten

[brave rapids]

Your group has to eat the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th balls..

yeah

the 11 is the position

234 is the balls you eat

[amber totem]

You really need to know that mechanic otherwise it will wipe the raid on hard mode

[lusty moat]

ooooohh i seee

[amber totem]

Id say go for 5-2 or 7-2 for now, so you can learn the mechanic

if you take 5-1 for example you are calling which orbs need to be eaten as well

[brave rapids]

yeah, usually the person who takes the x-1 position has to call the orbs

[lusty moat]

aite thanks for the help

[wooden compass]

How far are we behind the kr version In terms of content?

[brave rapids]

Here's a quote from a reddit post I saw before Brel came out globally:
When Brelshaza Hard will release in the west, Brelshaza hard will have been released in KR 19 months before.

I know that doesn't really answer your question, I just remembered that quote lol

KR's Voldike raid just came out a month ago. We're still waiting on Elgacia, Akkan + Kayangal

and whatever else i missed

[exotic vine]

can you get extra epic wealth runes from lagoon island or do u only get one?

[brave rapids]

only 1

[exotic vine]

ah okay thanks

[rose jewel]

if anyone's interested, saint's streaming hell brel

[maiden locust]

is there any use in Deathblade or Reaper ? or is just shadowhunter good ?

[rose jewel]

any...use?

[maiden locust]

any use in meaning of good for PvE content ( early players in raids n stuff )

[hollow anchor]

Db is in theory top 5 DPS

[maiden locust]

mhhh

[hollow anchor]

But hard to play it perfectly

[rose jewel]

every single class in the game can clear every single content in the game

play what you enjoy

[maiden locust]

ofc ofc but idk

[rose jewel]

idk what

pick something you like

not hard

[maiden locust]

idk whats better.. db or sh

[hollow anchor]

He’s actually right just play what u like

[maiden locust]

i played sh before not alot but i did

[rose jewel]

better for what

for you to have fun with?

[maiden locust]

yea.

to enjoy the game

[rose jewel]

we can not pick for you

up to you to decide

[maiden locust]

mhhh

whatever ill get sh and get up a db later on

[errant root]

is it worth to use special honing mats on non brel pieces past +20?

[rose jewel]

good, you pick something for yourself

thats the way

[rose jewel]

its not even worth going past 20 in the first place

unless you want to force brel 3-4 and dont have mats to hone the brel piece

[errant root]

yea that's kinda what I meant
I'm full +20 (1490) no brel pieces.
I'm having a hard time to get to do brel cuz of time and mental so I have mats and stuff around and wondering if I should use it

[rose jewel]

legawho

[brave rapids]

oh ive seen posts about this guy on reddit

legalia's an inferno seller

[rose jewel]

do you have an insane surplus of materials to hone

do you have an insane amount of silver and gold

and what time and what mental

like

its the same amount of time (maybe seconds extra) going at ilv to get your gear

instead of overleveling the content

[errant root]

below the engraves is unbound. there is some more in roster storage and other char.
main issue for honing would be gold hence why I thought about using the spec mats since that doesn't take gold

[rose jewel]

are you gonna prokel?

if youre not you dont care for overleveling 1-2

[gloomy sky]

can anyone tell me what im doing wrong that these arent counting? i do them everyday

[errant root]

if nobody else does maybe, but I don't really plan to

[rose jewel]

then get brel pieces and hone transfer for free ilvs

why are you in a rush

[brave rapids]

they're repeatable, for your benefit, so you can just spam them for more exp

[rose jewel]

are you attempting to brel hard day 1

[errant root]

adhd, time to play at all and when I have time to play, time where my brain is functional enough to do a raid

[rose jewel]

just...play the raid

why waste mats for something you can get for free

[errant root]

easy for someone with a normal brain

[rose jewel]

being 2 or 5 ilvs above the raid just because you were able to use the mats

instead of saving for a future alt/class

in the end

your materials, your gold, your silver, your account

would i do it? hell no thats a waste and a half

every single one of my brel chars went on ilv and got higher slowly via hone transfering and honing brel gear

the raid is NOT gonna go anywhere

it'll be there forever

and after all that said

i say no, but if you want to, go ahead

im no one to stop you

i can only recommend

[shut pasture]

Tier lists for this game are a trap, inconsistent across multiple content creators/websites and are also complete crap

[rose jewel]

i havent seen 2 tierlists with the same classes in the same tier

i saw one that said gs was bottom tier and wd around A-B

prob true that's why i get no mvps :^)

[shut pasture]

Why what isn't counting? Which ones specifically?

[exotic vine]

is there a way to cheese nia rapport with 12 legendary items instead of 15?

[gloomy sky]

nvm someone answered for me

[amber totem]

you can rapport bomb almost any amount of items once you math it out correctly

But you might have to do the first rapport quest as an example

[cloud pendant]

Are the seal exchange from the frog roster bound or character bound??

[flint dune]

does that mean after reset i do raid normally and finish it and then i use ticket and do raid again ?

[last swallow]

Anyone na east help normal valtan?

[pure nacelle]

how many bones and wings needed for dominion fang?

[timber mauve]

It will only reset g1 but won’t refund other gates.

[flint dune]

makes no sense

i cleared gate 1 only dced at g2

[timber mauve]

well, idk what to tell ya

[devout cape]

Damn punikas pass doesn’t give you any class engraving?

[near cove]

Just get them from the event vendor

pretty cheep

[devout cape]

I have to use my hyperpass for that?

[near cove]

nop

the naruni race

event vendor

[devout cape]

Awesome Ty

[devout cape]

Oh crap this stuff resets tonight? What are the must-buys?

[pallid panther]

What is the name of the npc that u can buy chests from raids that u forgot ?

[near cove]

just do alt + q and open the raid tab top left it will say something like rewards with a blue chest

[near cove]

like all of the first page

the weekly reset stuff

[pallid panther]

Alt + Q isnt the integrated dungeon system ?

[near cove]

no 1 prior would be the honor leaps

[near cove]

yes

then open ur selected raid

and top left of the tab

it will show some blue chest

with Unclaimed rewards or something

click that

[pallid panther]

Got it thank you

[near cove]

it will let u buy

[coral sphinx]

most worth buys from gold shop with the extra coins?

[fiery prairie]

im really new to the game. Should I be setting my return point to each city that it lets me for now?

[balmy plank]

Just whatever's most relevant to you and where you travel most

[hollow scroll]

vern or punika are the best places imo

[pseudo atlas]

sure, you can also set a bifrost in the main cities

[hollow scroll]

they are both t3 armor vendors

[pseudo atlas]

before you go further, did you set a character for the story express event?

[slate elk]

which class got more enjoyable style berserker or paladin?

[balmy plank]

If they're really new, I doubt they have Punika, Vern or bifrosts to use. You can just set it to where your currently questing and when you leave for activities or islands you can fast travel back

[balmy plank]

That's subjective. It's up to you what's fun

[slate elk]

okay let's assume i wanna go to a raid what will they choose

mostly

[pseudo atlas]

paladin, because it's a support

(last two weeks excluded)

[balmy plank]

I mean either? All classes are viable. It just depends on if you want to play dps or support

[hollow scroll]

whats wrong with dps paladin

[pseudo atlas]

it's awful and will do worse than the worst dps unless they have actual hams for hands

[slate elk]

hmmm

i wanna play both

[pseudo atlas]

you have to dramatically outgear regular dps to do the same output and even then people will get angry at you for being a dps and not a support

[slate elk]

but i only got 1 punika powerpass

[balmy plank]

Watch some YouTube videos for overviews of the class. You can get a better idea of how classes play and what to expect. You may find the style of play for one class may not be for you

[bleak elk]

would not recommend dps paladin for someone new and starting out

as others have said you have to outgear regular dps classes by alot and even if playing at peak performance. odds are another dps class of similar gear would outperform you by a mile

dps paladins also tend to get gatekept from raids

[hollow scroll]

cant be any worse than support beserker

just red dust for me tonight

[slate elk]

i am not planning paladin for dps

i wanna play him as support xD

never said i wanted to play him as a dps

[hollow scroll]

at least it isnt artist, paladin is good

[slate elk]

what's wrong with artist

[hollow scroll]

[near cove]

ye artist is a very specific class work really well with classes like sorc and gunslinger anything ranged sorta

[hollow scroll]

still another ayaya to come before mommy

[slate elk]

what's the next upcoming character?

[hollow scroll]

aeromancer

[slate elk]

mage?

[hollow scroll]

later this year from patch notes

[near cove]

specialist

[hollow scroll]

specialist same as artist

[slate elk]

let me check it out for a sec

[near cove]

they are special

[slate elk]

am i blind or she's literally the same as artist xD

i mean how she looks

not her abilites

[balmy plank]

They're both specialist, so both part of the kid classes

[hollow scroll]

i mean all classes are like that

[slate elk]

what's after her?

[balmy plank]

Slayer aka female beserker. She won't be released till end of year most likely

[slate elk]

now this got my intention

let me check

[near cove]

Many other things will grab your attention after u see her 😂

[slate elk]

well now i wanna save the powerpass for her

[hollow scroll]

no point

my guess is we’ll get express with her

[slate elk]

well i will sure be waiting

[hollow scroll]

makes sense?

[slate elk]

yep yep

[hollow scroll]

or at the least another pp

[near cove]

I would'nt be suprised if her gear progress like sorc 😂

[balmy plank]

Powerpasses expire in June. Theres no waiting for any class. Unless your talking about the free Vern ones

[near cove]

the higher u go the lesser it acctually protects you haha

[slate elk]

but a question is there more raids or only the ones available now?

[slate elk]

then i'll use the punika pp on someone else

[hollow scroll]

there’s 2 more to come

[slate elk]

[hollow scroll]

that we know of

[near cove]

2 more 3 if u count brel ig?

[balmy plank]

Elgacia has new abyssal dungeons. Brel Hard next month. Akkan. More abyssal dungeons with Voldis. Then future raids set for KR like Theamine etc

[near cove]

thats still like 1 year + away for us

so nothing to really worry about

[slate elk]

[near cove]

unless they push like a 1500 express event

then maybe we might be getting it sooner

[balmy plank]

Just asked what's coming. I didn't think time was a concern

[slate elk]

poor glb players

[hollow scroll]

🤨

we haven’t even had 1460 and whatever after that yet

[near cove]

true

did kr get a gold nerf to clown and up?

it was just vykas Hm right

[shut pasture]

What is? Akkan? Elgacia?

[bleak elk]

i estimate elgacia to be july/august and akkan normal before christmas

[near cove]

Akkan has a hm?

[bleak elk]

yes

[shut pasture]

I mean those are our very next content updates after April. Brel HM in April and Elgacia, Aeromancer, Akkan and Slayer are all next at some point this year.

[bleak elk]

normal is 1580

hm 1600

[near cove]

why da f does clown not have hm

[shut pasture]

Because normal clown is hard enough

[near cove]

lmao

[bleak elk]

my guess is aero with elgacia release

[shut pasture]

Clown gets Inferno still, though

[hollow scroll]

you think we’re getting 3 classes in a year

[bleak elk]

and slayer with akkan

[shut pasture]

We'll see. They would have nothing else to fill the rest of the year with.

Elgacia is split into two updates I believe so that might take up two of the months, Aero and Slayer would be 2 other months and Akkan its own month as well.

[hollow scroll]

welcome to parity with korea, waiting months between real updates not stuff they held back on release

[bleak elk]

how is elgacia 2 parts?

could you elaborate?

[shut pasture]

I believe they released it in two parts, story continent first and then another update with more story(?) and abyssal dungeons

I could be mistaken though, I just feel like I remember that being a thing

[bleak elk]

oh i see

interesting

[last swallow]

What is the max gold 1 character can earn a day at 1415?

[cloud pendant]

hey guys, is it worth upgrading the secret maps?

[last swallow]

2x chaos dungeon, 2x guardian raid, 3x una quest

I do this daily

[shut pasture]

If you have enough of them, I guess. The different rarity maps give different tradable mats rarity wise so like the blue maps you'll get the small shard bag but the legendary ones you'll get the large shard bag for instance.

[last swallow]

I did normal valtan legion raid g1 today

[cloud pendant]

yea but is it worth the conversion

understand i get diferent types of mat quality based on different maps

but am i getting less from converting?

[haughty wharf]

that was voldis voldyke idk, i think elgacia was released in full

how much dmg does weak to light give

[shut pasture]

I mean each shard bag sells for a different price, small is cheapest, medium is higher and large is highest

So you gotta math it out. I don't know the prices for whichever region you're in.

[shut pasture]

Naw this was before Voldaik that I'm remembering this. Like I said I could be remembering wrong.

[cloud totem]

is there any "danger" zone to be in with the amount of gold to have at any given time

[bleak elk]

not sure what you mean by this

[cloud totem]

low amounts of gold that would stop me from doing important in the moment things in game

equivalent of getting laid off IRL with no savings

[bleak elk]

i never go below 50k

[shut pasture]

A day would likely be more reliant on life skill stuff or selling off tradable honing materials. A week would be more appropriate as Legion Raids/Abyss Dungeons/Argos are weekly content, not daily. Also it depends on how many characters you are running through that content.

So at 1415 if you're doing Argos and Valtan on just one character you earn 1000 from Argos and 1200 from Valtan. I can't remember if Oreha gold gets disabled at 1415 or not.

[cloud totem]

im at 20k currently after i just bought 10 KBW books and im thinking to buy 2 more

[pseudo atlas]

oreha gold is removed at 1415

[shut pasture]

Thank you.

[coral patrol]

well you never want to drop below ~300 gold because then its a nightmare to list items on the market

and if you're interested in legendary selector packs you should have around 20-30k whenever you run challenge abyssal dungeons or if you want to stop someone from lowballing it

[last swallow]

I think I can't earn argos rewards once 1415

[shut pasture]

Argos gold is disabled at 1475

[last swallow]

Ohh it must be bc I did it for the week already

The gold amounts are if I clear all gates?

In 1 run?

I could only clear g1 for valtan and not g2

[shut pasture]

Legion Raids have checkpoints. You can enter into G2 even if you've completed G1 already, just gotta find a group doing G2

[last swallow]

Ohh I see okay thanks

I got to make my 3rd and 4th characters

[cloud totem]

also at what point is it looked down upon to be a support with exclusively argos gear

argos accs, relic equipment ofc

[shut pasture]

You can maybe get away with it even in Clown as a support but...idk, stat amounts would be a little lower than you might like to do clown with and there being a bit of a support surplus atm there may likely be better equipped supports than you that people will take.

[last swallow]

I read something like I should never use unbound leapstones or hone stones in general and just sell them

Is this what everyone does?

[shut pasture]

No. Its up to you if you want to do that.

[cloud totem]

im confident on the latter part but that wont last more than 4 weeks from now

so 3x3 with proper stat distribution and 6 relic piece will be a happy camper in vykas hm?

[near cove]

Ye you can get in with ilvl with that

[shut pasture]

For the most part, potentially, sure. Absolutely keep working on that 4x3, though.

[near cove]

its very easy to build supports tbh

almost 0 investment

I build my pala from just raid / chaos dungeon drops from like 2 weeks

[cloud totem]

i mean, its probably like 1 piss distance to go from 3x3 to 4x3 so its not like i refuse to do it

[near cove]

almost 4x3 on him

[cloud totem]

just will take my time with it if i can

[maiden locust]

what's the maintenance for?

or is it a weekly thing?

[stray goblet]

its for us to touch grass

[maiden locust]

understandable

[dreamy bluff]

and yes its a weekly thing. happens everyweek at the same time

[wintry coral]

Where can i find the patch notes once maint is done?

[radiant flame]

there are none

[wintry coral]

F

[pseudo atlas]

always in #announcements

[wintry coral]

Ty

Was asume it would be in announcements aswell

Just to confirm

[cloud totem]

mmos have many players in 1 server room unlike most games nowadays so they need to breathe

thats the classic reason its probably not true in 2023

[shut pasture]

No.

[cloud totem]

shit man i really shouldve typed 1 more thing that could clarify that sentence

[shut pasture]

Maintenances are usually run to do bug fixes, optimizations and possibly even loading in bits and pieces of code for future updates as well as updating or refreshing certain backend shit.

[wintry coral]

Btw when u get to 1460 (+18) gear before relic set get the msg do you rly wanna upgrade more before relic gear at that point do u stop and wait till u finish your relic set or doesnt it rly matter and can u push further?

[shut pasture]

Take MMORPGs with megaserver tech and they possibly still do the same, they might just cycle in a new set of "shards" to handle the player load and its just ever rotating. At least to my possibly limited understanding of that.

[radiant flame]

push to +20, ignore message

[wintry coral]

Bet ty

[dreamy bluff]

its just a weekly maintenance not a patch maintenance

[dreamy bluff]

legendary gear can upgrade up to +20, relic can upgrade up to +25., upper relic(brel) can upgrde to +20 anciant(brel hard) can upgrade to +25

[last swallow]

Is there a way to lower the skill animation of other players? Or the shine?

I want to see my skills more for visibility sake

[dreamy bluff]

isnt there a setting for special effects? never really tested it so idk if that affects skills

actually yea you can do that

you can turn of other players effects so you only see yours

[last swallow]

Ohh nice what is it called?

I might try that out

It's so chaotic at times

[tired ravine]

Guys, is there a list of all the class legendary book pouches you can get for free?

[dreamy bluff]

Game is closed ATM so I can't give you the actual setting that has it but it should be under gameplay. A drop-down list

You can just tell it to only show support effects since those are kinda really important

That's what I have mine as

[last swallow]

Okay thanks

[bleak elk]

should be under gameplay > combat related settings or some shit

it turns off other peoples skill effects

except supports

[bleak elk]

off the top of my head, every express event has given two
T3 bridge/Anguished isle
clown/brel token exchange npc

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[wintry coral]

@dreamy bluff ty

[tired ravine]

think the clown brel thing is combat engraving not class ones

[bleak elk]

oh class

uh i think it might just be anguished then? i dont rmb if bridge has class

[tired ravine]

bridge is combat

its anguish x2 + hyper express x2 for each one done I think

[bleak elk]

there was one given in dec

for compensation

for some issue

i cant remember what

[tired ravine]

well now I just have to spend 140k to finish my summoner legendary engraving

fun

[bleak elk]

i bought mine at 16k each

think its alot cheaper now

[minor forge]

Rookie numbers

[bleak elk]

^

i spent 18k per barrage book

a long time ago

[minor forge]

I wish i only needed 140k for my books

[pseudo atlas]

isn't summoner one of the more popular and therefore more expensive classes

[bleak elk]

Class books i bought (price per book at the time)
Paladin blessed aura (7500)
Sorc Reflux (8000)
Sorc Igniter (12000)
Arti Barrage (18500)
Summoner MS (16000-17000)

[bleak elk]

it is

i was most salty about my barrage books as i finished buying them 1 week before the first toad event

priced plummeted from 18.5k to 7.5k

[wintry coral]

What is the best gold making method now a days since legion raid nerfs

Life skills?

[bleak elk]

best has always been market flipping

[wintry coral]

Even with the 20 daily cap?

[uneven robin]

Bussing hell mode

[bleak elk]

from what i know, people with alot of capital flip accessories

class engraving ones to be specific

[radiant flame]

i don't think market flipping is something to recommend

given if it was so easy and guaranteed everyone would be doing it

[bleak elk]

well he asked whats best

flipping is least amount of physical effort

for biggest gains

[radiant flame]

it's hardly guaranteed

[bleak elk]

if you have enough capital to lock down the accessory market

[radiant flame]

ultimately, having a good roster and raiding with them and doing daily content is guaranteed, you make gold, and you also mplay the game

[bleak elk]

you can easily make 100k per flip

[radiant flame]

i feel like that is extreme copium

[bleak elk]

i ran into issues buying class accessories awhile back

took me 3 weeks to find one because someone was buying up everything under 150k and relisting at 300k

[radiant flame]

but idk, im too tired to argue at this point

[bleak elk]

so i know some people are doing it

[radiant flame]

people always manipulate the market

i just think its not something that should be recommended as a stable source of gold income

[bleak elk]

i wasnt recommending it though

[radiant flame]

its equivalent to telling people to become day traders and buying crypto

[bleak elk]

was just answering a question

realistically though if you play the game a decent amount

sell busses

its a pretty stable source of income

[wintry coral]

I am not rly at the point i can sell busses

• i have a 6 support roster

[radiant flame]

then just raid

legion raid nerfs shouldnt even affect your support roster that much

[bleak elk]

ilvl?

[radiant flame]

once you're doing brel it makes no difference

[wintry coral]

1475 1460 1445 1445 1445 1445

Pushing my alts all to 1460

[radiant flame]

just push to brel

[wintry coral]

Then focusing on clown push or main to brel

[wintry coral]

1?

[radiant flame]

the 1475 should go to brel

you can push to 1460 at the same time

1460 is not hard

but you need to start doing brel

[bleak elk]

your 1460+ can do 3 man NHH if you can find dps friends

[wintry coral]

I just came back a week ago

[wintry coral]

Sadly i dont have any friends left playing

[wintry mauve]

It’s gonna take u a while to collect enough horns to make a full set of gear so best to start as soon as u can

[bleak elk]

well then push to brel asap and start doing that

[radiant flame]

my honest opinion - ignore the bussing for now - just progress your roster

doing brel is easy for you

[wintry mauve]

Bussing isn’t needed trust

[radiant flame]

once your roster is doing brel you will make 70-100k raw gold from raids alone again

[wintry coral]

If i am fully honest i am not a master in hm vykas yet either

[radiant flame]

a week

[wintry mauve]

Ngl the raids will only get mechanically harder so best to try and get the first raids down

[graceful ledge]

sadge i see all these brel recommendations and im like

i dont wanna pity +20 to do brel

[radiant flame]

idk man why are you afraid of honing

it's vertical progression

this game is built around vertical progression and raiding

[bleak elk]

what do you gain from not honing?

[amber totem]

You have to get +20

There's no way around it

[radiant flame]

at least with honing it's guaranteed

yes pity hurts but it's better than not having the system

again, the people who complain endlessly about pity are often the people who quickly forget about the one taps they have

[wintry mauve]

Reverse psychology gotta trick the game

[radiant flame]

100%. just assume you'll probably pity

[amber totem]

Low expectations is rewarding when you get a surprise one tap

[ember flower]

brel 1-4>valtan

[amber totem]

Also this conversation is pure copium I love it

[wintry mauve]

So true

Only way I can get through this game

[amber totem]

Hitting milestones is the best part about the game

[radiant flame]

truth. there is so much other shit you cant control

[potent axle]

if ur 4th alt already 1500 u buy chest or not?

[minor igloo]

be friend complaining about 98% artisan to +19.
one taps his +20 Brel weapon

[wintry mauve]

Getting 5x3s for all my chars was the biggest for me I’ve never felt so relieved after that in this game

[radiant flame]

yesterday on g5 there were 2 shapes stacked on top of each other

i didnt even know what to think at that point

[wintry mauve]

G5 always got some weird bugs like that shandi thing if u do to much dmg or something

[radiant flame]

no no, it wasnt a bug. 4 people jsut stood at the same place

[minor igloo]

Shandi to skip second shapes

[bleak elk]

i have encountered more bugs in g6 than g5 weirdly enough

just yesterday, boss was standing on 1oclock tile when we broke top 3 with yellow meteor

she just afk-ed on the broken tile for like a good 15s before teleporting to the center

[minor igloo]

Brel was contemplating her landscaping decisions

[radiant flame]

i still think you should be able to kill brel by making her fall with yellow

(or blue)

[minor igloo]

Thats the biggest no u moment if it's allowed

[bleak elk]

then theres also the 110 mech bug where you get sucked into the center but somehow end up with the others who went into the vibrators and have a yellow circle around u for the rest of the fight

[wintry coral]

I do have all my chars build already

Beside my artist

[wintry mauve]

Never seen that b4 but the best one is when she just afks for ten seconds and let’s u pump dmg

[wintry coral]

All my chars are atleast 4x3-2

Beside my artist

[bleak elk]

its happened to me once and happened to 2 friends once each, theres posts about it on reddit

[wintry coral]

So i am just gonna focus on mastering vykas and pushing the main to brel

And do clown for the first time

[wintry mauve]

If u think vykas is hard clown is gonna be very fun

[bleak elk]

im also pretty sure she isnt supposed to do multiple mechs at the same time but i have seen
Darius + Grab
Darius + double yellowzone

[wintry coral]

Every1 gotta learn at some point dont we @wintry mauve

🙂

Not afraid to learn stuff

I used to bash my head on wow mythic raiding so its fine

[wintry mauve]

True dat it just takes repetition like anything else. Keep doing it weekly and ur bound to learn

[wintry coral]

For sure

[bleak elk]

for most people, you get the hang of it the more you do it, with a few exceptions for special individuals

[wintry coral]

[bleak elk]

i know someone who did brel 1-6 on week one of brel release and to this day has not survived to the end of gate 6

[wintry mauve]

What class so I can gatekeep?

[bleak elk]

taijustsu scrapper

pretty sure its a player issue not a class issue

[wintry mauve]

Ye always is ain’t no class to hard for any raids rn

[bleak elk]

i would say its much harder to pump dps as a evo scouter in brel g5/6 but thats due to the way the boss was designed

but still isnt an issue once u get the hang of it

[near cove]

is artillerist good in brel?

[bleak elk]

very

[wintry mauve]

Ye u got shields for days so u shouldn’t die at least

[bleak elk]

you dont die but you basically do no damage compared to other classes with similar gear

especially g5

boss has too many frigging dashes that knock you up

[near cove]

I debating in if i should take my gl or artillerist to brel

[wintry mauve]

Ye I love my evo alt but whenever I mvp ik it’s cuz my team booty

[near cove]

both are really nice classes

[bleak elk]

i mean same, im 1555 with 20weap 97 quality and lvl 10 gems

[near cove]

but idk maybe ill have a easier time getting to know the mechs on gl than on a arti

[bleak elk]

but i never mvp unless people die

[wintry mauve]

Gl if u wanna live and arti to pump dmg

[wintry mauve]

True but it’s a fun class and so very ez to be consistently dpsing

[near cove]

Im only like 40k off my 5x3 on gl but still have no invested anything into arti how bad does it get ?

[wintry mauve]

Fp build is very cheap barrage js crazy expensive

Dmg diff is pretty high as well tho

[near cove]

ye im prob just going to build barrage

[bleak elk]

fpe can contest with barrage if you play extremely well

[near cove]

no point in wasting pheons

[bleak elk]

go shieldless build and do 8 damage skills

[wintry coral]

U guys reckon artist books gonna go up or down?

[near cove]

down ofc

[wintry coral]

Cuz i read somewhere the frog is gone after maint

[near cove]

little supply now

[wintry mauve]

That’s to much work and gonna be hell balancing that nightmare buff lol

[near cove]

but soon people will start selling

[wintry coral]

I c

[near cove]

and it will go up again in about 2 months

when people are out of engraving support

they will buy crap tons of books

[wintry coral]

I was lucky and got 2 grudge books from the frog

🙂

[bleak elk]

personal recommendation for artist
run 4x3 with double class engraving books +9 for now, run as high quality on your accessories for max swift as you can
buy your artist books on the next toad event in 3-4 months time

[near cove]

I took my like 15k profit from frog and did not touch him again xd

[bleak elk]

artist benefits alot more from having high swift for buff uptime than it does from 5x3 imo

it also means you can use lower level gems

[wintry coral]

I c

[near cove]

artists does not really need 5x3

[wintry coral]

Ty

[bleak elk]

you dont really need expert on artist imo

[near cove]

awakening expert heavy armor and class is good enough

[bleak elk]

i would just go class/awakening/HA/vph on artist

[wintry coral]

And would u guys run drops of either vital weak point or ha

As the 4th

[near cove]

Ha is if ur inexperienced with the raid

[wintry mauve]

Just do heavy armor if ur team can’t stagger that’s on them

[near cove]

vph is very good for stuff like clown

drops is best as a +1

[bleak elk]

vph should be your 4th

core 3 are class/awakening/ha

[wintry coral]

I run that on all my other supports aswell

Only have HA on my bard

But the rest is all vph as 5th

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[near cove]

5th @_@

[wintry coral]

I normaly ran class eng +12 and 12 drops of eather

On the engravings

[bleak elk]

expert is overrated and can be compensated by good shield timing

[wintry coral]

Then build out to 4x3-2 or 5x3

[faint pagoda]

?!?!?

[near cove]

drops of ether is best as a +1 its very unlikely that your team really puts it into use

I heard spirit absorption is a good one for artist as well

[wintry coral]

Its so awkward that ppl dont take the orbs

In my guardian rifts

[bleak elk]

you dont need the additional heal from it if you can actively shield damage on your team

most times bosses dont do enough to break your shield in a single hit anyway

[near cove]

in kr the meta meta build is 4x3 + 2x2

with spirit absorption

[faint pagoda]

[near cove]

its a very niece thing and hard to really put into use

[bleak elk]

[bleak elk]

this is for post ancient gear minmaxing

he is not even brel ready so atm this is irrelevant for him

[near cove]

ig ye

it still might be possible in relic right

[bleak elk]

you need a 97 stone

for 4x3+2+2 relic

good luck with that unless ur willing to potentially blow couple million on rocks

[near cove]

ye 9/7 only

big doom xd

[faint pagoda]

i have a reverse 9/7

[near cove]

f

[bleak elk]

also this is extremely untrue from a personal standpoint
its either drops lvl 3 or none at all

you would be better off taking like crisis evasion or emergency rescue for a +1 rather than drops

[near cove]

no i mean like people rarely take my orbs 😭

[bleak elk]

that sounds like an issue with the people you play with

not an issue with the engraving itself

[hollow scroll]

im always grabbing ether orbs if i see them, its actually an issue

[wooden compass]

Hi, Ive been doing some research about raids and read that you can buy a chest at the end? How does this work? Do you not get loot if you dont buy the chest or does it give extra loot? How many times can you buy the chest? Is it for all raids or only legion?

[faint pagoda]

me on my scrapper picking up the mp orb

[hollow scroll]

[bleak elk]

theres both bonus loot and auction chest for extra crafting mats for the particular raid
bonus loot is fixed price
auction chest depends on how much people are willing to bid for it

[wooden compass]

You can choose to buy it at the end of a gate?

[bleak elk]

bonus loot yes
auction chest is after
Valtan gate 2
vykas gate 3
Clown gate 3
Brel gate 2/4/6

with the latest update you can also now buy the bonus loot outside of the raid

[faint pagoda]

Argos

Oreha

[wooden compass]

So these chests are only a thing for legion raids?

[bleak elk]

yes

bonus loot tho is in everything

[wooden compass]

Are they always worth it?

[faint pagoda]

[bleak elk]

as far as i can remember

well for the auction chests it depends on if you are trying to craft the gear set quick and how much you or others in the raid are willing to pay for it

for bonus loot, usually if you need the crafting material from it , its always worth buying regardless

[wooden compass]

Hmm ok, thanks!

[worldly vapor]

if you're talking just about crafting the relic sets initially. 2 valtan hards + buying the box and 2 NHH Vykas with box with no bids for extra stuff on either raids will net you enough to craft a majority of the 6p sets.

[near cove]

Last I remember the honor shards alone make them semi worthwhile

thats if u dont mind a little lesser gold

and there always the chance for a good acc drop

so you never know ig

[wooden compass]

Are thete any gearing guides getting updated regularly, the one on maxroll hast been updated for a while so i dont know if thats current

[near cove]

guides about?

[wooden compass]

Gear progression

[near cove]

the maxroll one does fine and then do /yourclass name here

[bleak elk]

i believe the class specific channels here have pinned guides for those

[near cove]

and u can see more advanced info

[hoary knoll]

Maxroll is usually up to date with everything, if an article is old it can still be up to date

[lavish grove]

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[eternal fern]

is there a general rule of thumb as to what engravings to equip on ur actual character sheet?

[shy yarrow]

maxroll takes months to catch up to west patches, do not assume they are accurate, ever. get 2nd opinions if you want

[shy yarrow]

every single class has its best 5 lvl 3 engravings already decided on pretty much, if you mean for planning its dependent on your market and books/stone

[hoary knoll]

I didnt see any really outdated article there yet.
But you can give me examples and i see myself

[shy yarrow]

bt berserker

scrapper

i havent even looked at their guides in a while

[hoary knoll]

Idk about zerker but what is outdated in scrappers page?

And which shock or tai

[surreal mango]

is today weekly reset?

[maiden locust]

yep

[shy yarrow]

they recommend spirit absorption on shock and dont put raid cap on tai

[maiden locust]

in abt 2 hours and 30 mins

[eternal fern]

So I'm better off planning my accesories and stone before using my books to unlock engravings?

[hoary knoll]

Their spirit absorption is always only listed on cheap alternatives if you cant afford bis

[surreal mango]

that brings me to my next question. how often can i do valtan normal and hard per week? i did it just once last week and couldnt join another group after that

[shy yarrow]

your stone is the wildcard, need to get it first, then books and accessories

[eternal fern]

damm okay

[maiden locust]

I think you can do it to 3 times a week

[hoary knoll]

They do mention raid captain aswell

[shy yarrow]

its in the same category as ambush lol

[pseudo atlas]

you can do valtan on one difficulty once per week

[eternal fern]

hmm okay i thought i would just default into certain engravings always being on character sheet instead of on accs/stone

[pseudo atlas]

same with all legion raids, though you can only do a total of 3 legion raids per week on each char

[surreal mango]

ah ok good to know

[shy yarrow]

there is never an instance where id say cd is worth running if you are playing full swift lmao

[pallid quail]

Hey. For a returning player wanting thinking of trying new classes. I enjoy classes that have mobility, but that can actually use that mobility for repositioning. I know GS and DE have tons of them and the mobility isn't tied to their rotation. Arcana had mobility but she needs to use the mobility skills to dmg the enemy for the rotation. Are there other classes like gs and de that don't need to use the mobility skills during the rotation?

[pseudo atlas]

it's a pretty bad assumption that there is no support with yearning, even when this guide was made

[maiden locust]

Hey, did anyone have done the maths concerning the back attack set full awake vs LoS 18 for scrapper ?

[faint pagoda]

if you dont mind 0dps , reaper

[pseudo atlas]

also wow those screencaps are really bad quality

[hoary knoll]

Scroll down further where they show it with pictures, then there is sa listed as alternative

[pseudo atlas]

what did you do to the compression

[shy yarrow]

regardless never take anyones opinion as gospel for both maxroll and community guides if you want

[faint pagoda]

http://needsmorejpeg.com/

[shy yarrow]

i used windows' tool

[velvet widget]

what deals more dmg/more dps, demon impulse or perfect suppression ?

[pallid quail]

I can try it out I guess 😅 Which of the reaper builds btw?

[faint pagoda]

hunger is very zoomies

[pallid quail]

Sounds fun!

[hoary knoll]

Ps has higher ceiling but play the build u like more

[pseudo atlas]

it also lists the use case you would use it for...which is basically "none", though i guess newer players wouldn't know that

[hoary knoll]

Dont choose classes / build on their performance

[pallid quail]

Is reaper gatekept hard on higher content?

[pseudo atlas]

everything is

[amber totem]

its theoretical performance too as it highly depends on your personal skill and uptime

[pine plume]

Choose by there Sex Apeal ! 😄

[faint pagoda]

idk honestly valtan and vykas was fine for me

[hollow scroll]

i only choose female classes because booba skins

[amber totem]

If you're floor pov it won't matter if its Ignite sorc with 1818 spec or a PS SH

[pseudo atlas]

there was a big issue with reaper on release, same as every dps on release but reaper was quite popular

[velvet widget]

so technically ill have more dmg in ps?

[near cove]

if u have fine enough roster they will know ur fine its just a hard class to play often one to die

[hollow scroll]

ps isnt tripod limited, di is

[amber totem]

ceiling is higher, therefore its possible to have more damage yes

[bleak elk]

DI has a higher floor, low ceiling, PS has a low floor but high ceiling

hitting the ceiling on ps tho requires alot more skill/fight knowldge vs DI

[hoary knoll]

Not necessarily, it can reach higher dmg but youll have to back attack every attack for that.
If youre bad on back attacking i think its not unlikely that di outperforms it

[pallid quail]

I don't cause I'm swapping for euw 😅

From*

[near cove]

:o well support your way to a high roster xd

or the first dps is defo going to be gatekeep hell

[hollow scroll]

had me going there for a moment

[near cove]

ikr euc to euw like sheeshs mans really upping the difficulty here game was too easy 😂

[amber totem]

EUW final boss : finding other players to play the game with

[near cove]

nah nah EUW Final Boss : Fliping finding accs on market

[faint pagoda]

imagine doing islands on euw

[near cove]

Islands are actually fine its the god damm market

[amber totem]

just switch 🙂

[near cove]

too invested

[faint pagoda]

just drop the accs yourself

[near cove]

How do u think my pala got a 4x3...

and gunlancer 3x3+2 rn buying for the 5x3

[hollow scroll]

play 24 of the same class and be the market

[faint pagoda]

[near cove]

not even the class engravings tbh

its the stupid ones like kbw adren

the high demand ones

either overpriced or ass qual

[faint pagoda]

[near cove]

So i was like eh fk it im going to switch into ancient anyways lets just buy mid qual cheep ones

[hollow scroll]

why does that potato looks like its both smug and pouting

[near cove]

well not really cheep considering im paying 5-10k+ per

[faint pagoda]

[shy yarrow]

do you really think ancients will be available on euw

[near cove]

Im going to be droping them myself

[shy yarrow]

when relics dont even exist

[faint pagoda]

[near cove]

just funnel

[hollow scroll]

dropping chaos ancients because noone will be running brel hard

[near cove]

i have 2 supports at brel almost

just push all my accs from there

to my gl and arti

[faint pagoda]

honing to get to do brel chaos dungeons

[hollow scroll]

to quote stoopz

[near cove]

Monkey will be good money tho

[hollow scroll]

no wonder you’re always mvp, you’re the only p there

[near cove]

😂

[faint pagoda]

ez mvp huh

[near cove]

if i get my sorc up and drop a igniter acc thats like a 3 month vacation right there

[faint pagoda]

is gold on euw even worth anything though

[near cove]

but chances are slim to none + I sorta dont like sorc that much cool dps n shit but eh boring a bit

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[near cove]

I mean honing takes a toll

[faint pagoda]

tru

[near cove]

but bc prices are hot on euw

[hollow scroll]

whats the rc exchange rate?

[near cove]

under 2k often like sheesh

[amber totem]

im sure everything is cheap lol

[near cove]

no bots here

no inflation

[amber totem]

plus supply and demand

[bleak elk]

whats bc on euw?

[amber totem]

not enough whales

[faint pagoda]

who would want to bot on euw

[hollow scroll]

noone to buy the gold

[near cove]

ye i mean market is alr just a little low on the supply side

i mean thats good

I can get bc at 1.8/1.9k per

card slots go brrrr

[faint pagoda]

[near cove]

(I have 2 pages of cards on one of my lopang alts 😂 )

Needed lwc cards and game was really not nice to me xd

[pseudo atlas]

card slots are overrated anyway

[near cove]

solas and seria 4 awakening tho

so eh not bad ig

[faint pagoda]

youre not done with seria

[near cove]

I never went to the merchant

was little lazy

just used packs i got from the stupid leg > rares and uncommon from svern

[faint pagoda]

[near cove]

and rowen

skam packs honestly

dont drop me shit 😭

out of like 180+ rares i think i got 1 or maybe 2 seria

and then some cards i have like 6 or 7 of

[valid tusk]

Merchant stalk for a week and u finish seria ezpz

[near cove]

prob should ye

4 weeks in a row now nothing from card runs x4 char

[valid tusk]

I did seria from merch for a week or so and got her maxed recently

Was pretty painless

[faint pagoda]

the solas though

[valid tusk]

Left an alt in lutters always so it was fast

[faint pagoda]

[valid tusk]

Solas is pain

Im still 1 awaken

[near cove]

Lmao

[valid tusk]

Playing since december

[near cove]

solas is a little hard ye

[bleak elk]

one of my day 1 friends finished his solas in like frigging june

[valid tusk]

And ive got total of like 3 of him

[amber totem]

you can get solas from the challenge card packs

[faint pagoda]

took me so long to get a kharmine

[bleak elk]

without doing any solas runs

[rich leaf]

deep dive 18 is better than lwc 12 tho

[bleak elk]

i just finished my own solas like last month

[valid tusk]

Ive been tryin

[near cove]

Not if your on Hallu psure

[faint pagoda]

i need the crit tho

[rich leaf]

fair

[amber totem]

deep dive still needs lwc cards leg cards lol

[valid tusk]

Im saving packs

[near cove]

stupid armen

[valid tusk]

When i hit 100 in all common thru epic

I open

[rich leaf]

no its los

[valid tusk]

And pray…

Well not common

I dont need any commons

[faint pagoda]

i started awaken cards for + damage against demons

[amber totem]

oh which one has kharmine and delaine?

[faint pagoda]

rip my silver man

[hollow scroll]

good thing about story express , free solas

[amber totem]

that might be support one

[near cove]

Isnt that like +0.10 or something per few awakens

[faint pagoda]

0.06

total is 6 % though

[rich leaf]

yep, deep dive uses azena&inanna and uh the umar guy

[amber totem]

b

[bleak elk]

those small gains are big when you have nothing else you can gain dmg from

[amber totem]

demon awakening is like post LOS30 post dark30 post everything super end game

[near cove]

true ig

[faint pagoda]

pls mr frog stay

[amber totem]

frog ripped me off

pls mr frog go

[faint pagoda]

i aint buying books

just shards and leapies n stuff

[eternal fern]

man engravings are confusing

[amber totem]

how so

[faint pagoda]

let us help

[eternal fern]

not entirely sure where to start

[amber totem]

what class

[faint pagoda]

what class, probably cut a stone first

[eternal fern]

seems like everything depends on the rest

[minor igloo]

See what your class generally uses

[eternal fern]

either destroyer or summoner have not decided yet

[minor igloo]

Cut a good rock

Build upwards from there

[eternal fern]

but since game is down i thought id do some lookie at some info

[amber totem]

oh

so what ilvl are you at

[eternal fern]

i forgor but im still doing the story express

so still a couple of hours off before anything mattering

but might aswell look at it now instead of being confused when i need to actually get stuff going

[faint pagoda]

id only worry about engravings when youre 1415

check the community guide and see what engravings you want to get

[eternal fern]

i get what engravings i want

[amber totem]

more than a couple of hours lol

[eternal fern]

im just not sure where to start the puzzle of assembling the multiple max ranks

[amber totem]

as Rainbow has said, get to 1415 then you can purchase relic accs

[faint pagoda]

cut stone, buy books , buy accesories

[amber totem]

use this tool : https://loa-todo.com/engrave

[faint pagoda]

https://loa-todo.com/engrave

AYO

[amber totem]

[faint pagoda]

[eternal fern]

so stone>books>accs is generally how people go about it?

[faint pagoda]

For Quality of accesories Neck> Earrings > Rings in terms of importance

[faint pagoda]

yep

[eternal fern]

kk thats what i was confused about

[amber totem]

thats for 5x3

at 1415 4x3 is compeltely fine

[eternal fern]

once you know where to start the jigsaw puzzle seems less confusing

[faint pagoda]

if you think your class engraving is too expensive you can just put it twice in your Books

[amber totem]

seee ignite +9 on both slot

ez

[faint pagoda]

like that

[amber totem]

this is just an example I smashed together but essentially put both books on +9, and then do rock for two of the engravings you want to use, then fill in the jigsaw with accessories

[faint pagoda]

[faint pagoda]

show me dat 5/7/0 stone though

[amber totem]

i saw a 9/7/0 on a shadowhunter yesterday

[lavish grove]

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• 🟢GOOD | 🟡BUSY | 🟠FULL | 🔴DOWN · Mar 29, 2023, 9:11 AM

[faint pagoda]

[near cove]

@-@

[amber totem]

lucky bastard

[near cove]

Imagine not having a 7/5/5 stone like sheesh

Building my gl on that shit

Cuz I'm lazy and stones are expensive

[faint pagoda]

imagine not having a reverse 9/7

[amber totem]

6/6, 7/7, 7/5 etc is fine

just need the books then

Rip if this dude goes summoner in that case

[faint pagoda]

yeah

id just go 4x3

[near cove]

My class books have been going up steady and it pisses me off i thought I would be able to get them cheep but now its 3x the price they used to be

[amber totem]

my next 5x3 is likely to be shock scrapper

nice and cheap

[near cove]

From 200 to like 600 a pop

[amber totem]

relatively. (naw things)

600

[charred sorrel]

350mb download, i wonder what's in it

[faint pagoda]

skittles

[near cove]

And barricade doubled in price out of no where like 1.5k now

[faint pagoda]

i bought 7 barricade books for 6g each

[near cove]

I was like why just why do you make me suffer 😂

[amber totem]

i bought surge books for 11-13.5k

they are like 8k now

[near cove]

This is the shit I want

Not 1.5k 😭

[rich leaf]

prices going back up. but not as high as before

[faint pagoda]

i just sat and refreshed market

buying anything thats mispriced

[eternal fern]

Im leaning destroyer rn but not decided yet

[amber totem]

just play what you want

[faint pagoda]

[near cove]

Only if euw had a market to begin with smh

[amber totem]

costings come into much later

summoner just expensive to 5x3, but thats not until 1475

[faint pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/destroyer-lost-ark-gif-26284643

my glaivier was 90k including books

[eternal fern]

I will

Im not to hassled to "catch up" asap

[wintry mauve]

What’s important is u enjoy the class playstyle. Nothing is worse than investing into a character only to not like it

[eternal fern]

[hollow scroll]

600

i wish

[eternal fern]

Its also hard to gauge how fun something is with low investment cause engravings/tripods can really change the feel of a class afaik

[faint pagoda]

once youre 30 go into trixion

you can try it out there

only thing you cant change is your armor

[hollow scroll]

using BIS build but with t0 gear

[faint pagoda]

oh my god

people used grudge 1 in tier 1

i remember

[hollow scroll]

you still get an idea how it plays though, just dont look at the dps too much

[amber totem]

just aim for preemptive strike until story done

[hollow scroll]

ive seen people still run grudge 1 or 2 now?

[eternal fern]

[wintry mauve]

Best to try an narrow down the classes. Like if u like movement look into deadeye or gunslinger. If u like seeing big numbers look into destro or db. If u wanna be tanky destro gunlancer and arti pretty nice

[faint pagoda]

[hollow scroll]

4% extra damage and take 20% more

[eternal fern]

I like big bonk

[faint pagoda]

[wintry mauve]

Destro the one for u

[eternal fern]

I generally always play big bonker or a summoner in games where i have the option

[hollow scroll]

scrapper has big bonks, 2 of them

[faint pagoda]

i love my scrapper but it feels so clunky

[hollow scroll]

in the end ill probably reroll to swift tai , a slow class is cool but getting no back attack is

[wintry mauve]

Lotta options looking at the playstyle on yt it good to

[faint pagoda]

my dumbass made two scrapper

[snow wadi]

Summoner isn't that much a minion type as it is from other games
MS is more of a mage using Pet looking like spells for high dmg numbers
CO is like spamming 3 buttons while simultaneously trying to copy MS dmg on spears (i dont like co)

[hollow scroll]

im too used to sh and not needing to sit on the ass

[eternal fern]

Yeah i've noticed its not really a pet class like id normally assume

[faint pagoda]

LC SS Is a summoner class amirite

[past oriole]

pet with 100% uptime

[faint pagoda]

[past oriole]

You'll find that for alot of classes, I mean they still use the same skills but they look more fluid latter on or hit like a truck

I'm in the middle of leveling a summoner for example ( which I Know hits hard later on), it takes a while to use my akir, meanwhile When I'm playing with 1 I probably see akir back to back often

[pseudo atlas]

anything that runs dominion fang relic is hard to try out in trixion, but relic sets that just straight up increase damage like entropy you can test out the class on a dummy setting just fine

[eternal fern]

the class tester at the very start is honestly kinda poopoo

[pseudo atlas]

not the lv0 class tester, the lv50 one in trixion

[eternal fern]

since you can switch out skills to see if theres any you really like

[fluid knot]

hi, how do counters work?

[faint pagoda]

i mean engravings and tripods are there

[hollow scroll]

you press w when boss flash blue

[unkempt geyser]

when blue hit counter

[past oriole]

when the boss turns blue use counter

[faint pagoda]

boss glow blue you counter

[pseudo atlas]

lv0 class tester is absolutely useless

[hollow scroll]

i press w when boss flash blue should i say

[snow wadi]

spot the shadowhunter main

[eternal fern]

yeah thats the one i meant

[unkempt geyser]

counter on w?

mines on f

[hollow scroll]

[faint pagoda]

D is the way

[past oriole]

When I started the game, I avoided scrapper because of the green/yellow stuff on the lvl 0 tester 😂

[pseudo atlas]

you also have to hit from the front to counter

[snow wadi]

Team F Unite

[faint pagoda]

true

[unkempt geyser]

unless ur a bard

gg

[eternal fern]

yeah i just went and looked at youtube videos instead of trying the starting trial thing

[pseudo atlas]

does bard get to counter from anywhere?

[snow wadi]

No

[faint pagoda]

yes

[unkempt geyser]

from what i was told ye

[snow wadi]

What

[hollow scroll]

i use S now on other classes

[past oriole]

if you're interested in a class I think I could summarise most but not all ^

[faint pagoda]

prelude of storm

[pseudo atlas]

my counter is bound to RT+Y which has more letters so i win

[faint pagoda]

is the skill name

[hollow scroll]

look at an endgame build video and see if that's how you want to play and work towards

[faint pagoda]

what

[fluid knot]

are destroyers good endgame?

[unkempt geyser]

controller player KEKW

[hollow scroll]

controller

[past oriole]

1 of the strongest

[faint pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-gif-24107071

[past oriole]

as rage hammer

[hollow scroll]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/903532775200665671/1090386321102606356/fls16wu6m4i81.gif

[unkempt geyser]

scouters are the best endgame tho

[fluid knot]

scouters?

[faint pagoda]

if gettting gatekept is the endgame yes

[snow wadi]

Reddit has a "which class did you end up enjoying" post every 2 weeks

and everyone always says they're surprised how much they liked destroyer

and how much they hated their glaiver

[past oriole]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c39zjDovF1M

[faint pagoda]

i feel personally attacked

[eternal fern]

thats a big bonk

[fluid knot]

Wow

[wintry mauve]

I went from a red gunlancer to destro main never looked back

[past oriole]

i also hate glaiver

[pseudo atlas]

i picked up destroyer planning to play rage hammer and then got hooked on gravity training and then dropped it because i sucked ass at gravity training

[hollow scroll]

unironically me now, glaivier is sat on 2nd page of character select colleting dust

[unkempt geyser]

i had a glavier and she got deleted

[eternal fern]

whats wrong with glavier