#lost-ark-help

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minor briar
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for the important npc’s

devout granite
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fair enough

valid tusk
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How many pieces do you need left @orchid willow and how much gold do you have

orchid willow
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my set up of skills was very bad xD, i set them right according to guide

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6.2k

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i spent alot on making oreha fusion mats/fortify gear

minor briar
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i hope u don’t have elgians specced

orchid willow
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i do

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xD

devout granite
valid tusk
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Id def go for some decent quality on your pieces you can buy left if you have any

minor briar
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well the guide clearly doesn’t say that

valid tusk
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Make sure your neck has high in your main stat

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Some 50-60 qual necks have super high main stat low secondary

orchid willow
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it helps with survival

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otherwise i take big hits

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and die quicker/ dead = no dps

minor briar
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maybe u should learn the fight then

devout granite
# orchid willow

what ulti said, and u also might get gatekept if people see u running that, as sad as it sounds

orchid willow
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it helps alot in pve i farm chaos dungeon when arcane not up there is cast time on skills

devout granite
near cove
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you should like fully switch builds for that

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if you wana make it even better you should have like a reflux one

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like a 3x3 with the accs in you storage

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should do perfectly fine

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for chaos

orchid willow
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igniter is better i seen the dps it does

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was able to do 2 DD

near cove
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nobody cares about dps in chaos lmao

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u need consistance

echo owl
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how fast can you clear chaos dungeon

orchid willow
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but spending more time isnt what i have most of lol, i like to start-finish quick

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move on then irl

shut river
minor briar
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but a newbie so

shut river
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Ah

minor briar
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he’s running elgians for the shields

orchid willow
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^

echo owl
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you’re gonna have more problems than getting a 5x3 bud

orchid willow
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i can tank adds for 7 sec or avoid big hits in dungeons

minor briar
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maybe should have played a more agile class

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to learn raids

shut river
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Honestly sorc is fine for learner if he goes reflux instead of igniter

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Shit ton of mobility

near cove
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^^

shut river
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And he will have the mokoko blessing thing for first few raids

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Players forget it exist

near cove
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first 10 raids

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he chillin

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cant wait to be crying on why im insta dying in 7 weeks xd

shut river
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Its good to learn raid has long has he doesnt do the buying bus

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Ahah

near cove
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Bussing is a terrible item when starting out honestly

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you rather go with a learning party and use that mokoko buff to its full extent

shut river
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Ye sadly not that many with bus/1445 argos 1500+ valtan rerun being the popular format

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Can definitely find a run for vykas/valtan normal though i still see a few

devout granite
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be cool if the game had a system that rewarded veterans to help mokokos

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even if it was as simple as a title

shut river
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Honestly its just a personal thing my guild help a few players each week yesterday they helped someone do their forst g6 brel clear

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You gotta go out of your way to help but it feels good

near cove
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I wish they made the brel rehearsals thing like a 4 man

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it would have made it alot easier for players to learn like that

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and people would actually run it

devout granite
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speaking of rehearsals, how similar is clown rehearsal to normal?

near cove
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2 very different things from what ive heard

vast oriole
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They removed all the difficult patterns for rehearsal + bingo

near cove
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lets just say Clown rehearsal carrys seam to cost 30k for some reason

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should be self explanatory with that ig

ember flower
orchid willow
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what should it be at

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im lvl 57

fervent veldt
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How large is the general dps difference between Scrapper and Machinist? Unplayable levels or just meh?

near cove
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339 is good

orchid willow
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im missing greater skills from continents rewards

graceful ledge
orchid willow
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18 total

acoustic oyster
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anyone mind explaining how the story express pass works?
does it just give rewards for doing the story on a fresh character or does it also help speed up the progress?

minor briar
near cove
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like you said it yes

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repeat story for rewards

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and like a good final reward which will help u overall

minor briar
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and extra stuff

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there’s a reddit post on it with all the details

orchid willow
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if i were to replace shield with inferno, why does guide say flame stack 2 instead of dmg to push immune foes

minor briar
orchid willow
acoustic oyster
echo owl
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inferno does piss damage

orchid willow
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oh

near cove
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although all the rewards you see on those screenshots are not confirmed as the west release might be diff from kr

acoustic oyster
near cove
orchid willow
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would this be better?

near cove
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each one after that is like 1.5 averaged ig

acoustic oyster
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most things after vern can be done in like 10 hrs though so that's why i said that

orchid willow
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or...

near cove
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ye so your looking at a long term thing tho

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dw events 3 months

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so your chillin ig

orchid willow
acoustic oyster
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my finger hurts from pressing 'G'

orchid willow
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has the same thing like blaze does

lunar brook
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You can just go to sorc main channel and look at the community guide

orchid willow
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it shows me serphic hail

minor briar
orchid willow
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but wondering what else is better

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i got a party buff increase on 1 skill alrdy would the 2 stack or no?

minor briar
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there’s only 3 options for ur 8th slot

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counter, inferno or reverse gravity

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but ur not expert enough to use RG

minor briar
near cove
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inferno is good for a little extra meter gain iirc

minor briar
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ye, inferno is the goto

dry herald
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Sooo Im ilvl1390 right now, should I use the hyper pass on this character or make a new one starts at 1302 with vern pass and then level that one up? im new to the game.

vast oriole
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And destruction

near cove
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so if the 1390 is you main

minor briar
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but also, u can use it on a new char then swap it to this 1390

near cove
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just use the pass on a diff char get the rewards till 1390 and then tranfer the pass

minor briar
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which isn’t a bad idea

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instead of having excess green oreha mats

dry herald
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I heard somewhere that I shouldn't hone equipment because I wont be able to transfer the pass

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is that true?

near cove
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yes

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until you transfer the pass

minor briar
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w8 huh

near cove
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so after that i think it would be fine

minor briar
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that’s a thing?

near cove
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ye

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if you hone with pass

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it gets locked

dry herald
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"Note that the player can no longer change their event character if they hone a gear item while Hyper Express Plus honing bonuses are applied."

near cove
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cuz you hone with the buff

minor briar
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ohh

near cove
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20% hone buff or whatever

devout granite
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oh

minor briar
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right

devout granite
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that makes sense

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i got so confused for a second

near cove
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if not players could just keep transfering it to all 1370 with sh buff and boom 1415 for under 20k gold x3 xd

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x5 itself

orchid willow
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we can skip 1370 gear and use blue from chaos dungeon to get 1415?

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tht sucks

snow wadi
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Why? 1x Oreha and Argos and you got full leg gear

near cove
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you get 1302 from chaos... i wish chaos droped 1415 when we are at 1100 mhm

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but no you cant

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blue maxes out at 1370

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iirc

devout granite
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just go 4 piece oreha and 2 piece argos, because argos will cost gold to craft

near cove
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Or just do oreah today and oreah tmrw and save gold

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:D win win

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  • leap stones
orchid willow
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better way to get to 1490 im wasting mats on getting 100% pass per try at 5-10% ea

devout granite
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do u think he'll get gatekept though without 2 piece argos on a dps character?

snow wadi
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check calculator if juice/books are worth it 🙂

dry herald
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wait so if the minimum character level required for the hyper express plus is 1340, I should use the Punika pass instead of Vern pass right? which is more optimal?

radiant flame
snow wadi
rugged saffron
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does anyone know if you have to use up a daily field boss in order to get field boss adventure tome drops? (ie Magmadon, Proxima)

orchid willow
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hone fails so many times that the next try is 100% pass

radiant flame
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It balances out

snow wadi
snow wadi
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but I'd still always just get the punika one, as sv gives a bunch of card packs

radiant flame
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You do

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The collectibles/cooking items are a boss drop so you need to consume your world boss

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Same with island souls, sea bounties

orchid willow
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idk how many times it failed lol but dam

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its like that per lvl per piece

snow wadi
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for wepon i'd always use juice

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and I'd just change your point of view on honing

radiant flame
near cove
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patch notes just came out on twitter :D

snow wadi
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lets say 100% is the way to always upgrade any piece of gear
and if you hit it before then, you got lucky

orchid willow
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i did get lucky once

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5% pass 1st try

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then 10% is like 15+ fails

real shell
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did the patch already happen?

radiant flame
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Idk what to say. You’re not the only one pitying hones

snow wadi
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Gold requirements for honing up to Item Level 1445 have been removed, and will now just require honing materials and Silver. We’ve also increased the Honing Success Rate, Honing Material Discounts, and Leapstone Material Discounts.

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Uh I hope there's some anti bot measurements aswell

orchid willow
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ones i underlined is gold gotten from raids?>

near cove
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Me : why am i not a returning player!

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nah no gold till 1445 wtf

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why could we not get this 2 weeks ago 😂

snow wadi
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Yo I see fish prices sinking again

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When captcha?

near cove
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oof the gold nerfs arent good tho

orchid willow
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=/

near cove
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Now im forced to push for 1460 to do vykas to get any gold out that crap

orchid willow
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was depending on it lol

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for all these extra stuffs

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besides gear crafts/making oreha fusion mats/honeing/ increasing quality on gears

wintry mauve
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Damn they fr making us do vykas hard can’t wait for jail heaven

near cove
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this is very good tho

orchid willow
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but honeing costs the most gold and not to mention buying engravings for ppl who didint max

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igniter/grudge 10k per

radiant flame
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But the gold nerfs are concurrent with honing having no gold cost up to 1445

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You don’t need leg engravings to get 4x3

orchid willow
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they made it almost impossible to farm that much gold

near cove
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Thank god

snow wadi
near cove
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shift + g ! woooo

orchid willow
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whats wrong skipping dialogue manual lol

echo owl
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you would be shocked how im getting into Brel g6 with 4x3 at this point

orchid willow
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i just click g

snow wadi
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imagine instead of spamming g u press shift g once

wintry mauve
echo owl
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dps

wintry mauve
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What class?

echo owl
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Lance, gs, summ

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all 3 of them

snow wadi
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pretty sure its static then

orchid willow
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after this gold nerf it becoming more of a p2w

wintry mauve
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Ain’t no way Man U gotta be sniping parties or something

echo owl
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dps shortage goes crazy

snow wadi
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sitting in pf for 5 hours

near cove
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shit they can track supports now 😂 we accutally have to perform well

snow wadi
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but atleast getting invited KEKW

wintry mauve
near cove
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true 😂

trail meteor
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which event is done tonight ?

wintry mauve
snow wadi
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the right one, where u exchange those tickets

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not the left one, thats our holy frog

trail meteor
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ok

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thanks

wintry mauve
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U got two more weeks for frog so buy them books

stable nest
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Someone suggested me (because im completely new) to start playing tomorrow after the update because there are bonus

near cove
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why do i feel like they are going to be mean to us and like when a person rolls a lvl 7 gem they just lose 10m 😂

trail meteor
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yeah i bought some

stable nest
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Is this bonus there?

near cove
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Mirko yes

near cove
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if you have not played in the last month

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hop on tmrw after reset

stable nest
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i played yesterday last time but my char are level 20

near cove
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you gets tons of rewards extra

stable nest
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im going to make a new one

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new character i mean

hollow scroll
stable nest
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So i would like to create a new acc.. but i will loose all twitch prime gift redeemed (even if i was not playing i redeem everything from amazon prime)

snow wadi
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Why create a new one tho?

wintry mauve
snow wadi
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You'll be a returning player and will have all buffs/boosts a new player has

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no need to create a new account

stable nest
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Even if i played yesterday last time?

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Of course i want to create a new character with story express

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that will be possible?

snow wadi
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Yes

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everyone could create a new character and use the story express pass

stable nest
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ok perfect

snow wadi
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but its not worth for players that already played the story once

stable nest
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I didnt played the story once

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just played until 20 with my bard

hollow scroll
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there is a requirement for the story express im sure

near cove
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they buffed gunlancer quite a bit woah

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  • its synergy which lost 4%
snow wadi
stable nest
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i think that's only the requirement

near cove
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but overall they gave it a good i would say 10 maybe even 15% buff

echo owl
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the requirement is that you didn’t play it for longer than like 20 mins lol

wintry mauve
maiden locust
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Do you think I can save the powerpass for next class release?

near cove
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Well more of a reason to push my lancer to 1445 next week

heady gulch
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Hi i wanted to sell some stuff in the ah but its all grey out like, leapstones, did they change it ? Its been a while since i played

hollow scroll
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if you haven’t completed that just carry on as you go

stable nest
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On the border at which level is?

near cove
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and shit

stable nest
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Another thing, when update will happen? which time normally?

snow wadi
hollow scroll
near cove
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eh cr1 is still better

wintry mauve
near cove
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cr3 isnt worth the cost

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10% extra dmg

timber mauve
hollow scroll
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its basically out of prideholm, you can see what you’ve finished so far by pressing j

near cove
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rather have like adrenaline

wintry mauve
heady gulch
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They are not

heady gulch
hollow scroll
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oh ilvl

timber mauve
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Oh yeah

timber mauve
near cove
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does the stagger changes possibly push it over bard now?

wintry mauve
hollow scroll
timber mauve
hollow scroll
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KEKL i love shilling euc to euw

echo owl
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paladin stagger was already over bard

heady gulch
timber mauve
snow wadi
near cove
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Building 5x3's on euw are disasterous i should say but if you like the little slower paced grind its your choice

timber mauve
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Idk, taking all week to raid because you can only find a couple groups during peak times is horrible.

fervent veldt
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Is there any information on how the hyper express pass works for characters that are already 1400 for example. Will they get all the previous rewards as well?

timber mauve
timber mauve
wintry mauve
near cove
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I mean rn theres only a page of brel parties

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but it is the end of the week

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so its fair ig

timber mauve
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It’s also 9am NAW time mokokoHmmm

wintry mauve
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So what’s the most popular server?

near cove
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usually fri/sat/sun about 2+

heady gulch
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nevermind i'm euc xD

wintry mauve
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Besides kr

near cove
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Nae Euc

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thats all you got

timber mauve
hollow scroll
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euc

heady gulch
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i forgot its been a while since i played, saved e,e

hollow scroll
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if you mean region

wintry mauve
timber mauve
echo owl
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aside from obvious dead hours and last days you can scroll comfortably in raid pfs

wintry mauve
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Gotcha so pf not to different then

echo owl
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open it up see a party and apply instantly basically

near cove
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I really did just lose all my gold income how the f do they expect me to hone after 1445 now xd

sturdy lichen
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if i create another character on a different server (same region) will i get rewards/express event powerpass etc on both servers or just 1?

maiden locust
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Does story express expire?

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I probably wanna save it for aeromancer

hollow scroll
timber mauve
maiden locust
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😭

hollow scroll
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it’ll probably go same time as hyper express

graceful ledge
real shell
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@wintry mauvenope. i moved to cali from chicago recently and was debating making a new account til i realized its the same there too lol

maiden locust
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They made up with gold nerf with honing buff

near cove
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I used to funnel all the gold from alts to main

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to hone

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now i have 60% lesser gold xd

timber mauve
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Yeah, NAW and NAE are pretty close in population from what I can guess. It’s just that NAW has really bad botting issues due to ping to most bot farms and the player base.

radiant flame
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So the incentive is to hone your alts too

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I mean it’s rough but there’s still gold

near cove
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I mean with the new buffs i can get all my alts to 1445

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i have the mats

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the silver im not too sure about how far 15m is going to get me

snow wadi
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glad its not 1460, imagine the kunge shitshow we'd have KEKDog

hollow scroll
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mage class in euc is 98% sorcs

timber mauve
near cove
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its going to im scared for my 30 min deska's now

wintry mauve
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Thank god I’m past deska now feel bad for y’all

snow wadi
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ye but with 1445 being "free", there'll be plenty of gemless shit alts parked there

hollow scroll
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even solo the chicken is easy

timber mauve
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I always run deska even on 1460 alts YEP

near cove
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when you're a pala you cant do shit

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except look pretty

radiant flame
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You forget that the whole point of this

near cove
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even that is hard

radiant flame
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Is to reduce inflation

snow wadi
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You're basically griefing yourself if you run valtan nm now? 😄

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do i get that right?

near cove
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yup

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thats right

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Im going to park alts at 1445 screw vykas

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and then 1460 then hm

hollow scroll
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good job they left vykas hm alone COPIUM

snow wadi
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but evne running normal vykas would be "bad"

radiant flame
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The problem with argos and Valtan giving so much gold is that yeah, so much gold for zero investment

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So fingers crossed, things will come down in price

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Like engravings and BCs

wintry mauve
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Copium

near cove
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so and valtan busses no longer exist ?

radiant flame
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So do Valtan properly

snow wadi
near cove
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and argos ig

snow wadi
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Bussing still makes up for the loss of gold

radiant flame
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Like, Valtan is easy

hollow scroll
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if anything there will be more busses

echo owl
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argos is 0 consequence since you were overilvl for bussing it anyways

radiant flame
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Idk. If you were riding busses all day you were griefing your own gold income anyway

echo owl
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valtan bus depends on what the price becomes but it will still exist regardless

radiant flame
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I think there is no double that BCs will come down in price, at least in the short term

near cove
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theres room for 500 gold on valtan

radiant flame
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They came down in KR when they changed it

near cove
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which the player profits

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so ig valtan busses will be like 300-500 at max

radiant flame
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I still think bussing is bad, so anything to make it less profitable will be good

near cove
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true but i kinda wanted it as a way to make gold

radiant flame
near cove
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now its kinda ded

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it will be more or less?

radiant flame
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It’s still the same effort 🤷🏻‍♂️

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More

shy chasm
near cove
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ye

shy chasm
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link?

near cove
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oh also i think pala got equal / beats bard stagger now

snow wadi
snow wadi
radiant flame
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I don’t think so for stagger. Could be wrong but I doubt it. Bard stagger if anything got better with sonatine

radiant flame
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Bard stagger is pretty stonk though

snow wadi
radiant flame
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Especially if you tech in note bundle

snow wadi
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I guess it definitly depends on engravings/skill now

near cove
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ye

radiant flame
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Cool, well not complaining

snow wadi
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a bard with vph is still a beast but most 4x3 bards run ha

radiant flame
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More stagger classes are always good

snow wadi
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while 4x3 palas use vph

radiant flame
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True

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You hope

near cove
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its just cheaper for a pala to build now

snow wadi
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but a bad player is not gonna have a stagger spell up

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so 😄

radiant flame
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Not some DoE degenerate

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Nah the baddies get DoE

near cove
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either way im going for a 5x3+1 (DoE xd)

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cuz why tf not

snow wadi
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5x3 for support is more expensive than most dps 😄

radiant flame
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Eh it’s not too bad

near cove
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I mean i plan to main pala so idm

radiant flame
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Blessed is cheap

wintry mauve
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I got 4x3 legend on my bard that’s gonna stay like that until akkan

radiant flame
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Was down to maybe 5k with frog

radiant flame
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Get relic accs fml

wintry mauve
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Ay they took me lmao

near cove
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have any pro gl mains calc'ed the dmg buff they got?

radiant flame
echo owl
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10-15%

snow wadi
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should be fine if its not 2 low

wintry mauve
near cove
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I mean they give good synergy so the dmg buff is sorta just a + for them

radiant flame
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Max with leg is like below 1500

snow wadi
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Oh well thats really low KEKDog

wintry mauve
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I got like 1 second off full uptime tho

near cove
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although the synergy did die this update

wintry mauve
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Im all for greedy gunlancer ngl

radiant flame
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If you’re a greedy gunlancer you delete it and play something else

near cove
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even destro got a decent buff

orchid willow
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bussing is paying the leader gold?

near cove
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for a carry yes

orchid willow
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how it work for valtan now, some ppl want 1-1.5k

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3k for vykas

radiant flame
near cove
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they put up a gem on auction house you buy it

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they carry you

orchid willow
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ik tht but with upcoming gold changes

near cove
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we dont know

orchid willow
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how will it affect the prices now

near cove
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wait a week and find out

wintry mauve
radiant flame
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Shrug do what you will. It’s just kind of shitty

orchid willow
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ah valtan only gets 3 pieces of a 1445 set

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wep/head/chest

radiant flame
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That’s like saying you can rainbow in with 2x3

near cove
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2x3 supports getting into brel g6 is the funniest shit 😂

radiant flame
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And it’s fine

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Because someone will take you

wintry mauve
radiant flame
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You practically getting carried as a supp on most content anyway - and I say that as a support

near cove
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Can agree

wintry mauve
radiant flame
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Least you can do is to try and do something helpful

near cove
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you get on shit with ilvl sup is like a vip pass to all the rides

radiant flame
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4x3 relic isn’t much

radiant flame
wintry mauve
wintry mauve
radiant flame
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So why are you still on leg and wanting to stay there until Akkan

radiant flame
wintry mauve
radiant flame
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Bingo is literally the content soloable on support

near cove
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you can solo clown wtf?

radiant flame
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You have a harder time on DPS because no sustain

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(Unless super overgeared)

wintry mauve
radiant flame
#

You can do that on support

orchid willow
#

i assume normal vykas will be not done by people and only hardmode will be?

near cove
#

prob now cuz of the gold cost

wintry mauve
near cove
#

nm vykas will be alot harder to find

brisk helm
maiden locust
#

does the event end tomorrow? and if so, does all of my currency go away or is there a period where the shop is still open to spend it all

brisk helm
#

Well time to main support KEKW

wintry mauve
# radiant flame **bingo**

O ye but that was just an example. Just personally I like to be able to have the chance to clear the content when everyone dies

radiant flame
#

Ok?

near cove
#

these bad bois bout to save my ass after tmrws nerf

radiant flame
#

My initial point is just that you should get relic 4x3 on your bard smh

near cove
#

the sheer coincidence 😂

wintry mauve
tiny walrus
#

does pvp season end on the 15th?

brisk helm
#

G2 valtan 2500 to 700 deadge

radiant flame
orchid willow
#

where we see vykas hard?

echo owl
#

it’s not listed

#

take a guess

near cove
#

honestly Valtan Hm should have stayed at its original rates cuz people are droped off there and need the gold anyways

#

maybe when they gave the next 1460 buff it should have gone poof till vykas Hm

orchid willow
#

kakul and brel have been not touched or they affected to?

wintry mauve
#

Ikr how does this combat inflation if we just switch to vykas h instead

near cove
#

Does typing test in vykas Hm insta wipe if 1 fails ?

orchid willow
#

id assume so lol

#

1 person does mech wrong - wipe

wintry mauve
#

In g3?

near cove
#

ye

wintry mauve
#

No one can fail

echo owl
#

you need 4

near cove
#

4 is for nm right

echo owl
#

it’s for both

near cove
#

oh

#

it just stacks more dmg i assume ?

echo owl
#

bro even in inferno mode it’s still 4

#

of course

#

and her overshield

near cove
#

i see

wintry mauve
near cove
#

Yup ik if i forget to ill be screamed at 😂

#

I might try some shit next vykas tho ulti for the op shield and see if it lasts

#

i think it was 8s

graceful flame
#

Hello, if you deleted character in lost ark for months ago, is it possible to get them back?

brisk helm
#

Don't think so

radiant flame
brisk helm
radiant flame
#

Bots weren’t doing Valtan wym

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Or not the majority of bots

near cove
#

there was bots doing valtan

#

wtf

radiant flame
#

Bots are just players 🤷🏻‍♂️

wintry mauve
near cove
#

bro even my brain struggled to do that how does a frickin computer do it

radiant flame
#

It’s a person controlling the bot

near cove
#

oh ok thats fair 😂

radiant flame
#

🙈

#

What does a computer do with gold smh

brisk helm
#

Also they just need 1-2 people and they can bus bots ez

radiant flame
#

Bots are just accounted managed by players who get other players to carry them

#

So yeah it’s possible for bots to do legions for sure

#

It’s just a higher burden

near cove
#

I mean this really would bring amazon more money

radiant flame
#

But argos/oreha was mad easy gold for bots

near cove
#

cuz more people buying rc

#

as the rates for rmt will only get worse for them

verbal gust
#

Quick question just hit lvl 55 and wondering what upgrading a skill to lvl 11 does 🙂

vast oriole
#

More dmg

near cove
#

so rc would begin to prob become worthwhile

verbal gust
#

Ah fair enough

radiant flame
near cove
#

Atleast bc prices will go down ig

verbal gust
#

Is the extra damage a big ammount since it does take 6 skill points for every skill

vast oriole
#

Yes

near cove
#

also u dont need it for every skill

orchid willow
#

how can bots do raids lol, the bosses move in w/e direction, the bot will have to correspond and do skills based on where boss is/ and use skills accordingly

near cove
#

just use it for the top 3-4 dmg skills

radiant flame
#

I want to say 20% for level 11, another 10 for level 12

verbal gust
#

Oh damn nice

echo owl
#

it is definitely not that high

near cove
#

ye prob little lower but its very worth while

echo owl
#

unless you’re speaking totals

radiant flame
#

It’s over 10% each for sure with level 11 more than 12

echo owl
#

i don’t even think it’s 10% for 11

#

it’s less with 12

#

7->6 roughly

radiant flame
#

Could be wrong

brisk helm
#

Also there are prob gonna be more bots in valtan from now since there is no gold req till 1445

viral temple
#

Is simple fusion material going to be useless tomorrow? Just made some recently for my bard.

verbal gust
brisk helm
brisk helm
viral temple
#

Gold requirements for honing up to Item Level 1445 have been removed, and will now just require honing materials and Silver. Wish they could clear that up

verbal gust
#

Of course the moment Im almost done honing to 1445

viral temple
#

I mean do you consider it to be honing material?

verbal gust
#

😦

timber mauve
radiant flame
timber mauve
#

I just pushed my wardancer from 1370 to 1460OMEGALUL

brisk helm
tawdry yoke
brisk helm
#

Glad I was saving gold and mats for express event

#

So I stopped honing completely

near cove
#

for that to happen

hollow scroll
brisk helm
tawdry yoke
#

This is so dumb, so dumb!

near cove
#

Atleast I hope ill be able to get like 60k gold tmrw from selling all the mats i stored up

main frost
#

and right now im on 1452,5 0 gold with 5 alts on 1370 that have gold reduced to shit

#

so I wont be able to hit 1460 yaaay

near cove
#

literally got 1 piece under 7 taps

main frost
radiant flame
#

I think people need to stop freaking out about honing they’ve done

near cove
#

oof i see we have the same unfortunate fates

radiant flame
#

Remember nobody expected this to happen 🤷🏻‍♂️

brisk helm
#

Ye

radiant flame
#

And it’s primarily to help new players

main frost
near cove
#

I mean idrm its only like 15k gold total but thats 15k i could have pushed to 1460 with 😭

main frost
#

its helping new players

#

old palyers did not get touched by this

#

but players that are somewhat in the middle of those got fucked

near cove
#

xd hey atleast we can get a relic sets in 2 weeks now

radiant flame
#

I think saying they “got fucked” is an exaggeration

near cove
#

so im not complaining ig

radiant flame
#

You still get max gold from vykas hm and clown

main frost
#

well after my calculations im gonna get set same day I would without that buff XD so me myself I just got fucked this patch

compact wharf
#

Anyone know if we’ll be able to swap the toon benefitting from hyper express like we were able to last time?

main frost
main frost
#

the only thing I got form this is reduced income from alts by a lot

near cove
#

dont hone on the char

#

till you transfer it

radiant flame
#

So hone them

near cove
#

if you hone it gets locked to that char

radiant flame
#

And do higher content

near cove
#

^^

hollow scroll
amber vapor
#

What area do I go after hitting 460 ilvl

near cove
#

they just gave us more weeklies to do weooo

near cove
radiant flame
#

But yes, I guess if you have a roster of 6x 1445 yeah you’re fucked

main frost
radiant flame
#

But that would be a stupid roster to have

near cove
#

follow that guide like a bible and your good

amber vapor
hollow scroll
#

you just got a free stronghold buff tomorrow

near cove
#
  • the sh buff will be free hones
compact wharf
brisk helm
#

Isn't stronghold buff at 1460?

hollow scroll
#

i dont mean the actual research

orchid willow
#

its cheaper to craft oreha at home than buy at auction

near cove
#

it does i think but if you hone on the first char the pass gets locked

#

you can collect a few of the lower mats on it

#

and transfer it once

#

so ig not exactly the same no you can select a char but if you hone with the buff you can no longer switch it if you dont hone you can

brisk helm
compact wharf
#

Ok thank you

main frost
#

I mean 1370 to 1415 is basicly same gold income just 500 gold difference

snow wadi
#

So with bots taking advantage of the express event

#

and recent history

compact wharf
#

Appreciate the insight

near cove
#

np

snow wadi
#

I give that new express pass 1 day before its being disabled for 3 weeks again

main frost
#

valtan hard is starting to be income

snow wadi
#

so you better login on reset

brisk helm
#

There will be lots of bots in valtan vykas prob

snow wadi
#

or you can wait 3 weeks before usign the pass

orchid willow
#

i wonder if vykas normal will be done cuz cant afford to mess up lol or wipe on hard

hollow scroll
#

still a chance for something tasty from relic drops in valtan

simple igloo
#

I'm still reading the patch notes but does anyone know if it includes the update for non gold earners to run legion for chests?

#

😭 darn it

uneven robin
#

so i can ez get relic on all my lopangs now

brisk helm
#

Yes

simple igloo
#

wait what? you can or you cannot 😮

brisk helm
#

No I was talking to rosey

simple igloo
#

I might be misunderstanding but how is Rosey getting relics on their lopangs - unless their lopangs are gold earners too

near cove
#

1445 is chaos relic

simple igloo
#

oh chaos dungeon 🙂

near cove
#
  • deska's ig
simple igloo
#

Thank you, I understand now 😄

hollow scroll
#

you can still run legion raids just get no gold ?

near cove
#

You can

simple igloo
#

But can you buy the chests?

brisk helm
#

Ya that's how most busses do it prob

hollow scroll
#

so thats how they get relics for alts smilemk

near cove
#

Im not sure about that one i dont have a over 6 roster myself

simple igloo
#

This'll be my 7th character with the powerpass so I'm wondering if I need to assign it as a gold earner and lose out a bit on the first few weeks

brisk helm
#

I am making pala tomorrow smilemk

near cove
#

pala gang :D.

orchid willow
#

if silver gona be used how we gona get silver , its hard to stack silver

brisk helm
#

Might even make it main char

orchid willow
#

im struggling without these events

brisk helm
#

Make lopang slaves

near cove
#

silver = lopangs, sylmael blood exchange , events , chaos (on every char)

brisk helm
near cove
#

and thats about it

#

and play the game ig

#

do svern on alts and rowen

#

oh shi

indigo imp
#

i have a question, i have new character, shadowhunter, i want to use my vern pass on her, then when i have rohendel pass, can i use it again at that SH too? or i can only use it on a completely new account?

near cove
#

well time to do rowen x5

#

ez 10m

#
  • svern idk how much that gives so imma say 6m
#

16m woo + we have shift + g

brisk helm
near cove
#

so i dont feel as insulted

snow wadi
timber mauve
brisk helm
#

Ya

indigo imp
#

@brisk helm @timber mauve what do you mean a waste?

#

using the pass means that i can progress 2 characters at the same time, right?

brisk helm
#

Oh you mean different char lol

#

I think you saying same SH

indigo imp
#

same SH

timber mauve
brisk helm
#

Bro If you use on same character how will that progress 2 character

timber mauve
#

Also, why would or where would you get a rohendel pass?

near cove
#

do you need 1 completion of the region to pass to it?

indigo imp
timber mauve
#

No

timber mauve
indigo imp
orchid willow
#

i didnt know how to use powerpass so i went through begining-south vern all over again on my 2nd charc lol

timber mauve
near cove
#

no we only have vern and punika tmrw

brisk helm
#

Instead of using vern and then rohen

indigo imp
timber mauve
indigo imp
#

but in that sense, vern pass is kinda not-so-worth-it ?

orchid willow
#

i mean its better than nothing lol

brisk helm
#

It is since it gets you to t1 directly

indigo imp
timber mauve
orchid willow
#

its takes too long to get out to sea then go moko village/stern and other places

brisk helm
#

And tomorrow event will give free punika

orchid willow
#

ik, i didint know i had lol

indigo imp
#

i'm not in punika yet, i'm in rohendel

orchid willow
#

i did everything from start-south vern on my 2nd

indigo imp
#

about to finish though, thats why i thought i would get rohendel pass

#

but rohendel pass is no more

#

?

timber mauve
#

If it's your first character, you can prolly get to punika in like two days or less if you play a lot.

brisk helm
#

^

timber mauve
indigo imp
#

i see.... thats too bad

orchid willow
#

tbh it aint so bad going to punika took me 5 days max but i play casual

indigo imp
#

so in conclusion for my new alt = use the vern pass then adventure on my own into punika?

brisk helm
#

Event starting from tomorrow is really good for new players If you can get your main to punika you'll basically get free 1445 char with help of event

#

Just follow some island guides or something and it'll get you to punika in no time

hollow scroll
indigo imp
hollow scroll
#

no

#

it’s tomorrow

brisk helm
#

Ya just wait till tomorrow event prob

indigo imp
#

but in order to participate the tomorrow event, i have to reach punika first, right?

hollow scroll
#

no

#

story express is for new characters

#

gets you all the way to 1340 and from there you can use hyper express

indigo imp
#

:O

hollow scroll
#

but you still have to level from 1-50 to punika without using knowledge transfer or powerpass

indigo imp
#

but my main is not even 1302 yet though...?

#

dang, i see

hollow scroll
indigo imp
#

what is knowledge transfer btw ?

hollow scroll
#

rewards are probably worth it for new people

cosmic elbow
#

guys im confused about tommorrows patch notes and gold changes from raids, does it mesn that like price of everything on market will go up or down?

brisk helm
#

Knowledge transfer is like you basically pay gold in stronghold to skip story on alts

indigo imp
#

where and how do i do that exactly ?

brisk helm
#

You can see it in stronghold if you hv it yet

#

I don't remember when it unlocks

indigo imp
#

is it on the side of the island ?

#

with the machine thing or so

brisk helm
#

Ya

#

But I don't recommend it you can do it if you want

#

You prob gonna need gold for your main for now

indigo imp
#

why? because it costs a lot of gold?

brisk helm
#

Ya and as new player it'll be better to push your main first till point where you can start making some gold

indigo imp
#

i see...

#

so knowledge transfer is more or less like powerpass too then?

timber mauve
#

not really

brisk helm
#

No

#

It's like you skip a region

indigo imp
#

what's the difference?

brisk helm
#

Powerpass if I use punika I skip all till there and get gear too

#

Kt is like am in vern and I wanna skip rohendel

timber mauve
# indigo imp what's the difference?

A power pass skips levels 0 to whatever you power pass and it gives you gear corresponding to that area. A Knowledge Transfer ONLY skips the main story and nothing else of that SPECIFIC region.

#

Outside of the North Vern knowledge transfer, you basically play a bunch of gold to save on a couple hours of questing through that area.

brisk helm
#

It takes gold and 8 hrs

indigo imp
#

that's very detailed explanation, i understand now

brisk helm
#

Honestly 8 hrs are not worth KEKW

#

I'll finish like 2-3 region prob by then

#

If I hv mats to hone

indigo imp
#

i see

#

but i can use the vern pass first, then advance to punika, right?

brisk helm
#

Ya

#

Not on main tho

indigo imp
#

so i need to :

  • get my main to punika
  • get my 2nd acc with vern pass then to punika
  • then use the tomorrow event to get another alt to reach punika a.k.a get 1340
#

am i correct ?

brisk helm
#

You can just use event on your second char

#

Fk vern pass for now

timber mauve
brisk helm
#

Save it for later

indigo imp
indigo imp
#

@brisk helm @timber mauve thank you so much for you guys for answering my questions 🙏

brisk helm
#

Np

orchid willow
#

my only concern is buying engravings at their price at auction lol

brisk helm
#

Ya

#

Getting 5x3 gonna be deadge

orchid willow
#

without 12 in both engravings il never see a 5 engraving set up

brisk helm
#

Vykas hm gold hvnt been changed right?

shy chasm
#

no

shy chasm
brisk helm
#

Hmm I guess it's not that bad if we can push to do vykas hm and clown

orchid willow
#

frog going to be risky with gold drain unless max everything

#

i have to do everything to avoid spending and doing stuff cheap

#

other method is spend money

brisk helm
#

Wish they changed pheons too that's where most of my gold goes deadge

orchid willow
shy chasm
#

they already did peepodetective

brisk helm
#

They did?

shy chasm
#

relic is 15

#

leg is 9

brisk helm
#

Ya but stones still need them

shy chasm
#

ah

brisk helm
#

I don't mind gear cus it's like you buy it once for now atleast

orchid willow
#

lucky i have the rock to get all 15's

#

but problem is

#

i have the most expensive engravings to get to 12

#

grudge/igniter

brisk helm
#

Well time to just sell fishes

#

Fish stocks up good

#

No gold needed till 1445

orchid willow
#

can get gold in argos raids but it aint much, legion raid got nerfed loads

brisk helm
#

I don't remember lol

#

There are sheets prob somewhere

orchid willow
#

700 gold in orehas well and argos all 3 gates total 1k lol

brisk helm
#

Valtan normal fckd too

#

G2 2500 to 700 only

orchid willow
#

better to do hardmode for valtans but idk who gona do normal valtans now

swift dust
#

helo the golden frog will be there until 29th right

rigid plank
#

Should be, yes

pallid panther
#

They reduced the honing mats to 45, so they prob dont want people doing 1430 content anymore.

brisk helm
#

Wait they making Argos and oreha gear sellable

pallid panther
#

Assuming you're on brel today it didnt affect that much if you want to do vykas hard instead of valtan hard.

#

But for newer players .. yeah its a lot less gold

#

A 1445 player would farm ( 4,5 K Valtan + 2,7K Argos + 3,3 K Vykas Normal ) = 10,5 now is ( 3K + 1K + 1,6 ) = 5,6

near cove
#

~ 150k shards ~ 500 fusions ~ 700 leaps and you have a 1445 alt not bad

pallid panther
#

Essentialy almost 50% gold nerf

near cove
#

and 4m silver

pallid panther
#

Today i think the minimum ilv should be arround 1460

rigid plank
brisk helm
timber mauve
#

About time

rigid plank
#

1 year late but it happened blobshrug

somber jewel
#

eh bots can buy it

hollow scroll
#

1445 bots chad

brisk helm
surreal mango
#

can someone give me a quick breakup how the new powerpasses works? can i just boost one to 1340 and after that get a second punika pass. but both only usable on fresh charakters?!

somber jewel
#

The punika powerpass is once

#

you can use the story express pass I guess to push through punika, then use the powerpass later

surreal mango
#

ah i see

pallid panther
#

Story is for new character

#

Doesnt work on old ones.

#

Punika pass is when you finish the continent you can gear up another character to the same point of the story.
And express is an easy push to 45

surreal mango
#

ok so its good that im not that far into the game(not even at t3) after a few days playing

orchid willow
#

basic orehas fusion materials are being changed or still cost gold to craft?

somber jewel
#

they'll still cost gold

pallid panther
somber jewel
#

Hyperexpress

surreal mango
#

ah 1445^^

pallid panther
#

When you reach punika you are 1302

#

Then u can manage to use the express

inland grove
#

for the story pass, can a completely new account use it?

pallid panther
surreal mango
#

well i think i create a new char. im at 800~ now more or less fresh in yorn

pallid panther
#

Just new character

somber jewel
orchid willow
#

been fishing fo them

#

lvl 30 fishing now

somber jewel
#

that too

orchid willow
inland grove
somber jewel
#

need to be a new character

inland grove
#

any new char

somber jewel
#

and they need to do 1-50

orchid willow
#

will be faster after update

#

can skip all diolougue

#

dialogue *

pallid panther
#

But u can start with them if you are up to it

inland grove
#

hmmmmmmmmm, interestinggggggggg, nice

somber jewel
#

going through that content does get you card packs

orchid willow
#

will this even matter after update or no?

wintry mauve
orchid willow
#

do 1490 gear lvl- 1520 use basic oreha fusion material or its diff?

somber jewel
#

I believe thats when you go to the superior

wintry mauve
orchid willow
#

mats change for leapstones and guard stones

somber jewel
#

1475 though is the change point?

timber mauve
#

1490

orchid willow
#

im lvl 21

somber jewel
#

superior oreha

wintry mauve
orchid willow
wintry mauve
#

Idk if there is an ilevel requirement to make it what r u

orchid willow
#

oh

#

i just need 1475 gear lvl

#

kk

wintry mauve
left rover
#

I have a quick question about tomorrows event. if my main is 1435 is putting the hyper express on that character smart if im trying to get as high of an i lvl possible or is it a waste?

wintry mauve
left rover
#

would i get previous rewards from the 1340-1435 checkpoints?

wintry mauve
#

Yes

#

At least we did last time

left rover
#

ok thanks for the info

brisk helm
#

Oh I hv a question can I still progress a alt to 1445 with express even if my main is not 1445?

#

Cus I kinda stopped honing around 1430

#

I was saving mats and gold for express

marble shell
#

You won't need gold to hone to 1445 anymore and yes express works on any character that isn't 1445

wintry mauve
#

Ye u can do it with any character. The hyper express is 1340-1445 but u can use one character for story express to get to 1340

brisk helm
#

Ya but didn't know that earlier

#

That they would change gold

marble shell
#

Its a win for you

merry forge
#

goddamn i just started playing again and went from 1420-1470, wish i knew about the gold change l0l

brisk helm
#

Wait so punika powerpass and story express is different

marble shell
#

Yes

brisk helm
#

I thought punika powerpass will just skip everything

#

I might make another alt then I guess

#

To use punika powerpass

lavish sentinel
#

what is the trial achates guardian raid and is it worth it?

marble shell
#

So you have an alt that is level 1 to do story and another to use the powerpass on @brisk helm

marble shell
brisk helm
#

Yes good

rigid plank
brisk helm
#

Time to make another support then KEKW

lavish sentinel
#

it only give you a title?

marble shell
#

Yes

brisk helm
#

Well already hv bard and gonna make paladin might make artist too

rigid plank
#

And a trophy for in your stronghold iirc too

brisk helm
#

For punika powerpass

weak mauve
#

Am I supposed to be doing anything different for excavating than just running around the place, using the radar, and grabbing the relics I find, along with the minigames when I get them every 5 relics?
(I have been using Secret Forest if that matters)

echo owl
#

that’s normal

#

the only way you could optimize it if you minigame on purple relic

#

but that assumes you find one and also have 0 competition

weak mauve
#

Well, I am on Vykas server NAE, so I never have any competition haha.
I figured trying to use minigame on purples was better, but every time I have 5, I can never find one mokokoSob

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Is there a better place to excavate than Secret Forest?

echo owl
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you have sv and rowen as options

weak mauve
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Do they give more mats?

echo owl
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they’re all the same

weak mauve
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Ok. I thought all t3 zones were the same so good to hear that from someone else

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I wish I had a better shovel mokokoSob

radiant flame
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Also, you know the spawns are fixed?

weak mauve
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I don't have a very good roll on my purple though :(

radiant flame
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Just make another one

weak mauve
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Yeah I just run to the same spots with the radar on and if its there its there

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I've got all of the secret forest ones memorized at this point

tall wren
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How much does the Ark pass cost?

weak mauve
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I'd rather not scan if i don't have to

radiant flame
weak mauve
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There's no point in not having it on

radiant flame
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1500 and 3000 for premium and super respectively

radiant flame
weak mauve
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Oh, and is using the sniffer dog worth it? I figure not because the bottleneck is how many whites I get.

radiant flame
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I think that’s unusual

weak mauve
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Really?

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I have always had a shortage of whites compared to my greens and blues

radiant flame
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Rare mats in excavation are typically the bottleneck

weak mauve
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err

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There

radiant flame
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Idk, just my experience

echo owl
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based on shovel

radiant flame
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My shovels are very mediocre

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Oh and get 2 shovels

weak mauve
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These are the two I use. I only use the super armor one when there are a lot of annoying mobs around, I'm ok with not min maxing

radiant flame
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One for mini game, one for stacking

tall wren