lost-ark-help

[wraith basin]

🌈 RAINBOW GANG ROLLING THROUGH 🌈

[shy yarrow]

look at maxrolls rapport section

will show you what each stat you need for each level

[celest shard]

doesnt show stage

[timber mauve]

https://papunika.com/

[celest shard]

so when does the stat check start then?

[shy yarrow]

you just posted it

it's right there

[celest shard]

when does it start?

[rose jewel]

[shy yarrow]

bro, 180 for each

[celest shard]

at what stage bro

[rose jewel]

try it yourself

[shy yarrow]

that's the first stage bro

the colours of the virtue numbers represent the levels above

[lunar brook]

Does knowledge transfer just basically autocomplete the quest once I get a certain item level?

[tawdry yoke]

When faceting is there a technique? Like do reduced abilities first?

[timber mauve]

Use a stone calculator. Or just ZOOOOOOOM YOLO MOFO

[river lynx]

CLICK ALL THE BUTTONS!!!

[lunar brook]

Just click from top to bottom until like 1300 or something

[timber mauve]

What?

[amber totem]

Does stone calculator actually work

[lunar brook]

Just click buttons

[timber mauve]

It can give you the best outcome based upon statistics, but it cannot make a rock hit.

[timber mauve]

I’m drinking right now, but I have no clue what you’re referring to when you say 1300.

[amber totem]

what you drinkin

I just do rocks by feel, havent gotten anything too good yet though. Havent spent more than 100 pheons though. I buy like 3 rocks and whatever is best I go for

[timber mauve]

High West American prairie bourbon

[amber totem]

bourbon

[timber mauve]

Got it on sale

Was still $60

[cobalt halo]

Hey I got a question. I recently started this game it's hella fun I made a new slot but I can't do the main quest how do I do the main quest on it? Or is that not possible/ I used a powerpass

[amber totem]

New slot? You made a new character you mean?

[cobalt halo]

my bad forgot to mention I used a powerpass ❤️

[amber totem]

What is your first character at

[cobalt halo]

vern

[amber totem]

South or north vern

[cobalt halo]

South I think

[amber totem]

If you press P, what level is it

1370?

[queen basin]

what is the difference between blue red crystals and purple crystals? whats the conversion? i want to buy crystals with gold but the shop is rather confusing

[cobalt halo]

owh no its 700

sorry

[amber totem]

Blue red crystals? do you mean guild blood stones? Purple crystals can either be purchased with IRL money, through white diamonds or you can trade gold for them. The conversion ratio is different on each server region so you have to press F4 to open the shop and look at the bottom right buttons for currency exchange

[amber totem]

Ok, south vern pass should have cost 66$ for a brand new character. It should take you straight to 1370, once you complete a couple of small catch up quest thingies to explain how things work.
Did you do that?

If you have started a second character you will have to make them first, then you go to Trixion and talk with the angel and decide on your advanced class.

You shouldn't have to purchase a slot for your second character though.

[queen basin]

not sure i noticed two different color crystals in the currency exchange menu one is purple and the other looks like a bomb pop

red white a blue

[amber totem]

Yes, white diamond is the 'premium' currency. You pay for it. Its the cash shop currency. Purple crystals can either be purchased with white diamonds through packs, or you can trade gold for it

[queen basin]

are the purple crystals and white daimonds worth the same amount?

can they both be used for the same things?

[rich leaf]

white(royal crystals) can only be bought using real money
blue crystals can only be bought with gold

anything you buy with blue crystals are bound to your character

some things you buy with royal crystals can be traded or sold to auction house

[amber totem]

no

Blue crystals are used to get things like Maris shop

White crystals get things like skins, packs they sell with various items such as honing mats etc

[rich leaf]

you can get some skins with blue crystals too but cant be traded/sold

[queen basin]

ohh ok so i wouldnt be able to trade gold for purple crystals and use that for character extension slots of powerpasses

[amber totem]

no

Money only

[rich leaf]

nope

[amber totem]

White diamond > Purchase skins > sell skins on market is relatively efficient way of swiping for gold

[cobalt halo]

@amber totem Ah got it figured out ty very much I was complicating things for myself ❤️

[amber totem]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn99-noice-jake-peralta-andy-samberg-nice-gif-14234819

[rich leaf]

char reskins and extensions used to be giftable tho 😦

[cobalt halo]

also could U give a guide on how to be better at death blade I do rotations but damage is always lacking

[amber totem]

if youve just started your damage can only go upo

You have no gems, you have no gear relic gear set, you have no tripods

I highly suggest checking out surge, as its fun as hell with huge numbah.

[lavish grove]

The Ultimate Deathblade Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Deathblade class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

​

Deathblade Community Guide

This information was created by community members · Feb 17, 2023, 4:12 AM

[amber totem]

This guide has all the info you can ever need

[cobalt halo]

got u ty I power passed a deathblade as it's very smooth and relaxing to play

[amber totem]

Its hectic later, but a good type of hectic. She can be very rewarding.

Plus shes a good one to play dress up with. Great skins.

In fact the new anniversary weapon is amazing. That purple one has my wallets number next week.

[cobalt halo]

got u I am assuming to get it its a raid?

[amber totem]

Nope! Most skins in this game can be purchased through the market (Alt +Y) with gold, earned in game, or through real moneys

As you've just started out you likely won't have any gold yet, and there will be many things to spend it on before you can worry about skins 🙂

[cobalt halo]

wait the new anniv wepon is a skin? xd sorry not used to mmorpgs

[old dew]

narf ... it's horrible to get the engravings done ... to high markt prices

[amber totem]

Yeah. its lost arks anniversary in the west. 1 year since its been released. They have put out a new set of skins. If you collect enough of the tickets through doing things in game you can get one of the skins for free!

Check for Pink ! in major cities.

[amber totem]

Buying books you mean? Always pricey. 4x3 isn't expensive to set up though.

[old dew]

depends on the server I guess

[amber totem]

NAW, most inflationed, most expensive server in the world. 10-20k gold to set up 4x3.

[old dew]

currently I have 2x3 and one of it is +18 but I can't finde a suitable necklace to replace the old ones

[amber totem]

I assume you're using this : https://loa-todo.com/engrave

[old dew]

zinnervale is my server EUC

[old dew]

yes

[amber totem]

[old dew]

I use this tool to swap values before I go to purchcase from the AH

[amber totem]

the easiest way to setup 4x3 is to put double engraving for your class

and then math out the other 3 main engraves and get them through AH

[old dew]

would then be +18 on my DI engraving

[amber totem]

thats fine

[old dew]

currently it looks like this ... u can ignore hit master for now

[amber totem]

You only need to worry about that once you have all your legendary books

Thats when you do 5x3.

So put both books as demon whatever, then make out KBW Grudge and adren, boom 4x3

You wont be able to get 5x3 without a stellar rock and at least 2 x legendary books

[midnight nimbus]

In vykas g2 wings mech, is it always 1 wing at 11? In my ~15 runs, I've never seen it otherwise

[rich leaf]

is it possible to do 4x3 without legendary engravings?

[amber totem]

Yep

[old dew]

getting books to +12 would be nice but they are not cheap ... DI is arround 10k~11k gold/book, Grudge is +15k gold/book ... only Adrenalin is arroung 6k~7k gold/book so maybe I'll simply get Adreaniln to +12 then

[amber totem]

exactly

dont worry about leg books for nw

giv eme 1 sec

[mild sequoia]

its random

[dreamy bluff]

its random but yeah 1 wing seems to have a way higher chance

[amber totem]

Keep in mind I don't know what Shadowhunter needs, I dont have one nor have I checked the guide

[cobalt halo]

Ah is it that ticket thing U can collect in dungeons*?

[mild sequoia]

Dont fall into the trap of thinking its always going to be the same or else one day, you'll type 11-1 and it turns it to be 0

[old dew]

Crit + Spec when you do Poem of Salvation set or Crit + Swift wenn you do Hallouzination set

[amber totem]

This is a very generalised setup

You can make 4x3 very easily on any class like this

[rich leaf]

are accs with class engravings more expensive than just with normal engravings?

[amber totem]

generally yes. ESPECIALLY if its +3

[dreamy bluff]

ya, then you go to the event merchant(bottom right. this is punnika) and exchange them for rewards

[rich leaf]

thank you so much 🙏🙏🙏

[old dew]

replacing my stone again 🤔 ... but I want to keep that 5/9 ones

[amber totem]

Keep in mind for your first 4x3 its not about pure efficiency, its about getting 4x3.

[old dew]

🤔

[amber totem]

That was just random numbers put in to show an example

Build your 4x3 around your stone

try and spread your negatives around as well so you dont wind up with more than 1 negative. Optimally you don't want any

[dreamy bluff]

a 9/5 stone is pretty good. let alone a 4x3 you can even make a 5x3 with that so save it

[amber totem]

Yep, build around that stone

Not sure if you can 5x3 with it though, I havent gotten to that point yet. Books are so expensive

All 5 of my characters that are 1415+ though have 4x3 set up with this method

[shy chasm]

you can

[amber totem]

[shy chasm]

i have a 6/5 on my main

[amber totem]

I had that exact guide in mind when I was typing

For now though 4x3 is fine all the way to clown.

[dreamy bluff]

although this relic guide is good but it seems to be missing alot of combos that can also make 5x3. so these are not the only options to make 5x3

[amber totem]

@cobalt halo post questions here I don't answer dms

[queen basin]

what is the best way to get powder of sage? i've been crafting it in stronghold but thats not very good return.

[sick thunder]

most of the time it is but there is a small chance its not

[rich leaf]

oof this doesnt work on gunslinger cuz peacekeeper build only needs lvl 1 of it. do i just double grudge?

[amber totem]

Honestly GS is pretty cheap to 5x3

[rich leaf]

how. im using this guide and im still really confused
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vToHWttXVCdO22_dYMbnxqozhXVfpMM0lpJ-mBCr24xWjnA_Ffc-Ndi090H1AlbUYNT9dpCF3-HUefC/pub

[amber totem]

But you still need a good rock regardless

I havent seen this guide before but the jist of it is to get 4x3+1

peacemaker being level 1

[terse coral]

ive circled the island for almost 10 minutes and the pirates wont spawn

[rich leaf]

its a timed event

or just 13 28 43 58 minutes every hour

[terse coral]

so 3 mintes ok

[amber totem]

You gotta wait around on blackfangs isle for a bit

I HIGHLY recommend using tickets for this one

[terse coral]

im still not seeing any icon that shows a timer but i will just wait

[amber totem]

This one, She drifts she gifts, and the ghost ship one

Yeah no timer anyway, itll show up though

[terse coral]

ive done it 3 days in a row by accident xD

just at the right times i guess

[amber totem]

Thats fine, save you tickets

[terse coral]

i was just doing these quick ones on my alt to get the rep quicker

[amber totem]

You can only do it once a day for rep so no worries. Its always good to use alts for it, and do the leapstone ones on main

[terse coral]

im not sure which ones i do on my main , but it only takes me 5-10 minutes to do all 3 for her

[amber totem]

You should be doing : 2 x Feiton and 1 x Moko market

It gets done in like 4-5 min total

[terse coral]

these are the 3 ive been doing on main

[amber totem]

Those are fine too

Just do all the reputation quests imo. Worry about super time efficiency later

Oh. Make sure that horse one is reputation. I havent done it before

Oh Ive a very good guide for you actually farpeek, one sec

[terse coral]

im not sure if thats what you mean

[terse coral]

ok cool

[amber totem]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1njqD4oJ1hGj5bQl32rZt3T3w5ZthqMilgSlrf5-SagU/edit#gid=84821778

Make a copy for yourself and bookmark it

Its been incredible help for me

[terse coral]

i screenshotted it to my discord full of lost ark stuff from here 😄

ty

[amber totem]

[robust yoke]

how do get class guide

forgot command

[amber totem]

type / class name

no space

[lavish grove]

The Ultimate Summoner Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Summoner class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

​

Summoner Community Guide

This information was created by community members · Feb 17, 2023, 5:09 AM

[zealous ibex]

yeah it just gave me a bunch of things to do

dungeons a raid

and something else called una task

[river lynx]

Yeah, that's you unlocking the ability to do those things, but the game isn't actually requiring you to do those things right there and then. Blaze through those dialogues, then just continue following your light blue quest.

[maiden coral]

I've heard they cancelled male Scrapper is that true?

[amber totem]

Its called striker

[maiden coral]

Striker is male wardancer, I'm talk about the 240x240 picture that they show in loa on

[lofty coyote]

Female destroyer when? 😩

[worldly slate]

What is the reason to get +7 for adrenaline in 9/7 stone?

[lucid raft]

Which has funner gameplay between TTH Gunslinger and deadeye pistoleer ?

[old dew]

Is there any difference between SV CD corruption lvl 2 and 3 or not? Rewards looking the same from what I have seen

[lofty coyote]

Amount of materials you get increases pretty sure

[old dew]

🤔 maybe I should then prefere honeing before my engravings

only 2 pices must be upgraded then I would be 1475

[lucid raft]

Help ?

[worldly slate]

GS is played more

Also more dmg with less effort compared within deadeye

[south bane]

Hello, what area is best to farm rare east luttera collectibles?

[lofty coyote]

7 is a breakpoint for engravings because you only need to use two accessories to get it lvl 3

[worldly slate]

Yes but why not +9 adrenaline? Also two accessories

[lofty coyote]

Because +9/+9 is hard af 😂

That’s like saying why not +10

[worldly slate]

I mean +9 adrenaline +7 x

[lofty coyote]

You could do that too

[old dew]

have they changed Steaming Hot Spring times?

[lofty coyote]

Just take whatever you get. It’s hard to get a 9/7 though

[old dew]

wasn't it to be up every hour?

[lofty coyote]

Every even hour

[lucid raft]

Oh so GS TTH better than Pistoleer well may have to swap to tth then and transfer most of my stuff off my old deadeye

[shy yarrow]

pistoleer is uh, kinda bad, safe and easy but awful overall

[modern tide]

GS TTH Gunslinger can crit upto 90-100m if your lucky per snipe (swift build)

[old dew]

🤔 is there a page for the Bosses which needs to be hunted for the adv. tome? I need Velkan, Casrick, Maneth, Kohinorr (Field Boss in Iron Hammer Mine), Ancheladus and one (or both) bosses in Rown (but I haven't done the Rown story yet)

[lofty coyote]

https://www.thegamer.com/lost-ark-all-world-bosses-locations/

[old dew]

thanks

[lofty coyote]

Although there’s a probably more official website

Just Google it

[lucid raft]

So i should swap to TTH GS instead of pushing deadeye

[old dew]

well, I wouldn't say that even this website is bad and speaking for "official" ones would then exclude any other pages, which are not released through AGS/SG because even maxroll is unofficial because all of these websites content is player created ones

[lofty coyote]

or rather, mainstream websites

like maxroll

[old dew]

yes

[lofty coyote]

not official xd

[old dew]

^^

[lofty coyote]

how far are you into deadeye?

[robust yoke]

are the punika abyssal dubgeon hards any differernt from normal, excluding difficulty spike?

[timber mauve]

Nah

[robust yoke]

good

time to pray i remember what tf im doing

[modern tide]

I think she said she almost t1

[lucid raft]

level 40 doing 2nd island

[lofty coyote]

yea, i would change to gs imho

[timber mauve]

I mean, people that run those are either bots or like 1500 ilvl.
Well, those who match make those.

[lofty coyote]

but if you can, i would save the deadeye and not delete the character

[robust yoke]

wait hold on we do islands?

[timber mauve]

What?

[robust yoke]

nonono i meant like
i went straight from luterra to tortyrok 😓

[lofty coyote]

islands are typically used for leveling iirc

at least for the first character

[lucid raft]

No i am at monk place

[robust yoke]

wait they are?

[lofty coyote]

or mats

idk

been a while

[lucid raft]

martial arena thingy i am almost done

[timber mauve]

Islands are used to provide a side story content and provide honing materials to juice you from 302 ilvl to 1100 ilvl.

[robust yoke]

oh

[timber mauve]

They are a one time per account reward. But the boxes you get of honing mats as quest rewards are roster bound, so you can use them on alts if you have extra.

[lucid raft]

How fast would TTH Gunslinger from 15>40 be ?

[timber mauve]

Like leveling?

[lucid raft]

Yeah cause took me 3 hours

for deadeye

[timber mauve]

Idk, took me 10 hours to go from lvl 1 to lvl 50 with north Vern completed on a scrapper.

[lucid raft]

So 50 deadeye then powerpass gunslinger and go tth to T3 ?

[timber mauve]

Why don’t you just power pass gs to t3 now?

[lucid raft]

If i had the money

[native belfry]

is ignition sorceress better than reflux

[wraith basin]

ya

[old dew]

is there maybe a bug with the CD's? Because I am running corruption lvl 2 which shouldn't drop Legendary accss but it does sometimes more then the shown relic accss 🤔

[timber mauve]

So you’re gonna power pass to t3 gs with no money? I’m not sure I understand.

[lucid raft]

I have no money to afford powerpass

[timber mauve]

All chaos drops leg acc, even the ones I’m running at 1520.

[timber mauve]

Then how are you gonna power pass gs to tier 3?

[old dew]

I see, thanks

[lucid raft]

i said use free powerpass if i hit 50

You get 2 free powerpasses

[shy yarrow]

yes, to vern

t1 302 ilvl

[timber mauve]

I don’t see “free” stated here but do whatever.

[lucid raft]

What i read https://earlygame.com/gaming/lost-ark-free-character-boost#:~:text=Here's how you get the,a Vern Power Pass Item

[rose jewel]

what is that website even

[shy yarrow]

yes, you get 2 nv passes

idk what you are thinking gets you to t3 but u do u

unless you're going to level 302-1302 then sure, do that

[robust yoke]

whats reccommended for artillerist gear, fresh into 1370 just cleared the first of the 2 punika hard dungeons

[silver rain]

preordain for argos/legend gear. once move on to relic depends on your build

[rose jewel]

type /artillerist

[robust yoke]

reopens artillerist doc

so on a scale of 1-10 how hard is Argos compared to uh, Oreha Preveza [Hard]

[lofty coyote]

if 5 is oreha, argos is 6

not really that hard

[robust yoke]

just learning, i assume

is it a good idea to queue blind and hope for the best?

[lofty coyote]

use party finder, not matchmaking

nobody uses matchmaking for argos or the legion raids

[robust yoke]

o h

Well imma prolly get gatekept for being new
XD
I'll do Preveza hard, get my shit in order, and then give argos a whirl

maybe i should stop procrastinating on south vern storyline

[lofty coyote]

it'll be hard to get into a party with ilvl unless you're going to take a bus unfortunately. but i can get on a character so it's easier for you if you want

what region are you in? i'm in us west

[robust yoke]

US west Shandi

tis fine

[lucid raft]

Or reroll Wardancer

[robust yoke]

???

i mean, i have a scrapper and a glavier i should/could level..

along with several other characters...

[lofty coyote]

bahahaha

i have 9 characters 🙃

[robust yoke]

7 here

only 5 have hit N vern or higher

in order: Artillerist, Bard, Shadowhunter, Summoner, Scrapper, then Glavier & Paladin are still below vern

[midnight nimbus]

Do nm mechs happen slower than hm, or is that just my imagination?

[rigid plank]

People don't overgear normal as much as hard so potentially yes

[rapid dagger]

does anyone know when bursery shop leave?

[robust yoke]

03/15/2023

[rose jewel]

look at books expiracy date

[robust yoke]

or march 15th, if you will

[midnight nimbus]

I meant like "out then in" mechs seem to have more leeway to react

[lucid raft]

I decided to swap from deadeye to time to hunt

[lofty coyote]

i wish you luck

[lucid raft]

who ever send me 20 legendary time to hunt book thank you

[lofty coyote]

wait what

[rose jewel]

he wants

[lucid raft]

You mean she

[river lynx]

I'll give you the one I think I got on hand in exchange for 500k gold 💯

Call it Premium

[thorn cave]

my friend used a north vern powerpass and beatrice put her into a story dungeon, is that normal?

[agile compass]

They didn't skip

[thorn cave]

oh never mind it was skippable

thx

[brisk helm]

what lvl do i hv to hone my gear to reach 1445 from 1415?

+17 all?

[rose jewel]

mhm

[brisk helm]

or is it way higher

like +25

[hidden lark]

+17

1460 is +18

[brisk helm]

ok ty

[rose jewel]

i just said mhm :c

[brisk helm]

ima aim for 1445 for now cus then i can equip relic gear

[solar depot]

can you copy character presets and put for a different serve

[minor forge]

When i reach second legion command can i still do the first one or does it lock u out like Abyssals

[rigid plank]

you can still do the first one if you just unlocked the second

Legion Raids are never locked and are limited to 3 of them per character each week

[minor briar]

should be able to ye

[frosty fog]

Why so hard to find a good guild

[rose jewel]

your standards are high

[minor briar]

depends wat ur looking for

[frosty fog]

Ain't ganna join a guild filled with mutes

[minor briar]

if u want raids, join a static, then join their guild assuming theyre all in one so u can run alt runs with them
thats wat i would do

[agile compass]

What server r u in

[frosty fog]

Me in mari

[minor briar]

could always use the guild recruitment section in the server, looks decent

[rich leaf]

wait i cant do south vern without completing feiton? ._.

dies inside

[rose jewel]

?

didnt we explain that earlier, or was it another person

[tame garnet]

I find myself wanting to try and play Lost Ark again, but everytime i log in im kinda overwhelmed and really unsure of what to do...so i just log out without doing anything. I quit after the whole debacle over Argos release for the whales about a month into launch and 400 hours later

[rose jewel]

manually you can do whatever you want

[minor briar]

overwhelmed by wat

[rose jewel]

KT needs the last continent done either manually or via KT

i have no idea why you say you cant do sv

you can

unless there's some hidden gimmicky i dont know of

[rich leaf]

https://i.imgur.com/or3c8GV.png

im 1415

[tame garnet]

i guess just not knowing where to begin with all the changes and additions, and not wanting to main berserker anymore, so i guess starting over on an alt is required..

[minor forge]

Ah okay thanks!!

[rose jewel]

SV is available since 1340

[rich leaf]

"To unlock the South Vern continent, you must complete a few steps. First of all, you'll have to unlock a quest, and it requires you to reach an item level of at least 1,340 and to complete Punika's main quest (the blue one). If you have met those two conditions, you'll be able to start out the quest." is what it said when i looked it up

[rose jewel]

did you KT punika?

[rich leaf]

no i did punika manually

do i just sail to sv?

[rose jewel]

no you dont because you cant enter

go to north vern

check the right side of the castle

[frosty fog]

same for me i quit 2 after spending 2 weeks trying to get into T3 and now game just Throws stuff at me

[rose jewel]

there should be a purple there

[minor forge]

You enter through north vern

[shut pasture]

Well to clarify it wasn't so much a debacle as more of an overreaction. Ultimately, like most things people go all outrage mode over, it amounted to nothing.

If you're at least 1340+ you can go into South Vern just to pick up some resources and reacclimate yourself to the game, otherwise you can simply pick back up on your daily gameplay loop of Chaos Dungeons, Abyssal Dungeons, and work towards 1370 if you aren't there already.

[rose jewel]

exctly where "Magick soblabla" is

[minor forge]

And most important, do it at your own pace!!!

[rose jewel]

if you havent been at north vern in ages, go

[tame garnet]

I didn't care about the outrage at the time, the timing of the release and content being available for basically only whales took the fun out of the game completely for me - as i was grinding pretty hard and felt i needed to pay in order to keep up

[brisk helm]

well now you can easy get to decent gear i started playing week ago my main already 1415

tried valtan yesterday

[tame garnet]

ahh cool thats good to know

[rich leaf]

yes, found her. thanks

[shut pasture]

Well like I said, it was a nothing "issue" people still run Argos today. That was just misplaced FOMO overtaking people's better judgment.

If you're at 1370 then you can try to drop right into Oreha Hard and all Argos phases. We have a global honing buff up to 1415 (can be stacked upon by a stronghold research buff you make available once you hit 1460).

[rich leaf]

time to waste 1.5hrs now :)))

[brisk helm]

ya but need one char 1460

[shut pasture]

Plenty of stuff to do now and getting to Legion Raids is a tad easier now. I'd advise looking into maybe getting at minimum 4x3 engravings

[shut pasture]

Yup. Thats in there.

[brisk helm]

ya that's my goal now was looking at accessories and books but they expensive

relic accessories and leg books i mean

most cheap that i need i found is adrenaline in my server and its 6-7k per book too

and good accessories all 10-15k+

[rich leaf]

relic accs arent that expensive unless u want high quality. i just built my 4x3+1 gunslinger for more or less 10k gold

[shut pasture]

Yeah, thats considered cheap compared to working on 5x3 lol

[brisk helm]

really?

[rich leaf]

yep, green-blue quality

[brisk helm]

i was looking at spec and grudge etc engravings and all were 10k+

[rose jewel]

spec is always expensive the higher the quality

[rich leaf]

well, u dont need legendary engravings to make 4x3

[shut pasture]

Typically you do want high quality, though. Minimum above 70-75 I'd argue, because even with Ancient coming with Brel HM you're going to be in those accessories for a fat chunk of time.

[rose jewel]

low quality is very cheap because spec classes depends a lot on spec, and low qual means lower dmg overall or worse rotas

[brisk helm]

ya ik but even accessories

[shut pasture]

Don't discount the importance of those stats...

Some engraves feel like shit if you don't have enough Spec or Swift

[rich leaf]

yes ur right, but its also just a gunslinger alt at 1415

[radiant flame]

but even on gs if you don't have enough crit you'll do zdps

[shut pasture]

Mhmm

Crit too

[radiant flame]

on 4x3 you shouldnt have to sacrifice quality

[rich leaf]

ill upgrade as time goes by so im good for now

[radiant flame]

sure

i just wouldnt tell people to get bad quality accs

[brisk helm]

ye you might just get some too by doing raids

[radiant flame]

"cheap" relic accs aren't every cheap anyway

15 pheons is still 4-5k gold

[radiant flame]

i wouldnt count on this

[shut pasture]

Yeah...the pheons kill ya

[radiant flame]

i have dropped maybe 1 relic piece that i ended up using

and ive played since launch

[shut pasture]

I've gotten none!

[brisk helm]

[rich leaf]

i didnt tell him to get bad qual, i said i built my gs for 10k. ;-;

[shut pasture]

Not even any I can sell for a fat pile of gold

[radiant flame]

oh rough :<

where your good rng gone

[rose jewel]

my guild has some extreme lucksacks, they get a 50k+ every fucking week, and then here i am, the most expensive piece i sold was for 20k

[shut pasture]

It went into when I 2 tapped my +21 weapon

Raw 2 tapped

No juice

[radiant flame]

someone in my static free honed +24

[shut pasture]

That sounds painful, unless they got really lucky

[radiant flame]

i think it must have been a 1/2 tap

it was on weapon

so

deletes fuseds v quickly

[brisk helm]

not even good quality and only this is on market with grudge robust

[radiant flame]

dont look for 5/3

:/

[brisk helm]

i didnt lol

[rose jewel]

dont look for Necklace 5/3

[brisk helm]

i was just looking for grudge and robust

[rose jewel]

wait

[brisk helm]

and only this is on market

[rose jewel]

no dont

no

are you going 5x3?

[radiant flame]

are you going robust 1?

[brisk helm]

i used some robust books so i hv like 9 nodes on it

[radiant flame]

use double books

[rose jewel]

is robust 1 a thing, leme see

[brisk helm]

cant buy leg for now

[lavish grove]

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[rose jewel]

lol, no

[brisk helm]

bro i am just looking for +3

[rose jewel]

dont dude

that's one heck of a gold waste

again i ask

are you aiming for 5x3

[brisk helm]

not for now

[rose jewel]

then use 2x purple book

[brisk helm]

for now i just need like 4x3

[rose jewel]

you're making your life a lot more misserable than it should

this shit

fill it with 2 books

2 class books

+9 * 2 = 18

rest other 3 engraves are from relic stone and relic accesories

[brisk helm]

wait i dont get it sry

[minor forge]

I've setup an entire spreadsheet to follow my engravings to make it easier xD

[brisk helm]

[brisk helm]

can i see it?

[rose jewel]

its not really hard...

see this thing

do you know where it is

[brisk helm]

ya but why I wouldn't wanna equip robust?

[rose jewel]

???????

the opposite dude

[brisk helm]

idk i guess i am getting baited by outdated maxroll build

[rose jewel]

sigh

[brisk helm]

i am one i am following

not urs

[radiant flame]

maxroll is irrelevant

[rose jewel]

can you just do the steps im telling you

[radiant flame]

hes just telling you to use robust in BOTH your engraving slots

[rose jewel]

press your p key

[brisk helm]

oh

[rose jewel]

click the engrave circle

go to class bonus

[brisk helm]

ok that makes it clear

[rose jewel]

click and then alt click robust spirit

are we good

or do i need to go more indepth

[minor forge]

Early version (on phone so can't get the newest one)

[rose jewel]

jesus christ white background

just use this https://loa-todo.com/engrave

[radiant flame]

this avoids you having to find robust spirit on an accessory

[minor forge]

Well i can't imagine Google sheets with black background

[radiant flame]

because on relic, class engravings are incredibly rare and expensive

[brisk helm]

but robust spirit book way cheaper then others i mean

if i wanna go 1 legendary

[radiant flame]

yes? so?

you're getting 4x3

you dont need legendary

dont get ahead of yourself

[rose jewel]

dont run before learning how to walk

[brisk helm]

[rose jewel]

we are literally telling you the steps to make

[minor forge]

I try to build towards 5x3 but focusing on just getting 4x3 for now

[rose jewel]

you're jumping and ignoring them

[brisk helm]

ok sir

[rose jewel]

2nd take

https://loa-todo.com/engrave

use that shit

equip 2 books on book slots

[brisk helm]

sry i didnt fully understand

[rose jewel]

fill rest with stone and relic acces

[brisk helm]

what stone i am gonna need

i hv 6/5,6/6, 7/5

[rose jewel]

what does your class uses

and are those relic stones or not

[brisk helm]

for now no cus i just reached 1415

[rose jewel]

then get one and start from there

[minor forge]

Relic stones aren't that pricey atleast not the ones i needed

Think I paid around 1k for 2

[brisk helm]

grudge adrenaline cursed doll keen blunt robust spirit awakening lvl1 full setup

[rich leaf]

grudge+hitmaster were like 70-150 gold each

[radiant flame]

oh 5x3+1

easy

[rose jewel]

oh shit my dude a lucksack

[brisk helm]

that's like for later on 5x3 setup

[rose jewel]

9/7 first try? pff ez

[radiant flame]

please follow the community guide, not maxroll

[lavish grove]

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Soulfist Community Guide

This information was created by community members · Feb 17, 2023, 8:43 AM

[minor forge]

Me getting 4 hits on 25% on negative stat

[brisk helm]

ima save this guide a min

[rose jewel]

its sooooooooo easy

its not even funny

[brisk helm]

awakening lvl3?

[rose jewel]

i literally linked the guide between our convo

????

where is awakening in that pic

[brisk helm]

my bad

[rose jewel]

robust grudge adrenaline cursed

[brisk helm]

dont remember all signs

[rose jewel]

that's why the guide is linked above

[brisk helm]

ya i saved it now

gonna read it

[rose jewel]

you can always come here and type /whateverclass

for any community guide

[brisk helm]

ok ty

[rose jewel]

also please, 3rd take

https://loa-todo.com/engrave

use this

[brisk helm]

oh ya i use that

[rose jewel]

good

[minor forge]

Me seeing guide, changes skill to what i feel comfortable using possibly resulting in dmg loss

[brisk helm]

lol yes

[radiant flame]

?

[rich leaf]

anyone know where tooki bout to spawn? its not in atusia

[rose jewel]

he gonna spawn in my bathroom

[brisk helm]

i use energy blast but its not in any raid builds 😂

[rose jewel]

idk ask in area chat in the ocean

[minor forge]

Might wanna add that I'm not changing the skill itself but usually 1 or 2 of the upgrades i change on certain skills

[radiant flame]

then you shouldnt be using it

[rose jewel]

or look any of the 4 possible spawn points

[rich leaf]

i did already but everybody just asking 'where tooki'

[brisk helm]

i cant open guide link it shows blank

[rose jewel]

well then no one knows

[minor forge]

Try different browser idk

[brisk helm]

ok

[rose jewel]

i suggest having one char with 4 bifrost on the 4 tooki island spawns

if its not in 1, go to 2, or 3, or 4

[minor forge]

Imagine having 4 Bifrost

😔

[rose jewel]

imagine not having 4 bifrost

:c

[brisk helm]

[minor forge]

[radiant flame]

anyway the community guides are not wrong

simple as that

they're collated by people who have spent hundreds/thousands of hours playing those classes

[rich leaf]

i bought like 25k blue crystals back when it was like 300-450

[brisk helm]

ya ik

i got used to maxroll cus i was following island guides etc there

since i didn't know much

[radiant flame]

maxroll is an okay starting point

but i dont think the class guides have been updated since launch which is over a year ago

[brisk helm]

ya

last it was updated on 7th oct 2022

[minor forge]

[brisk helm]

bruh guide says poor people shouldn't play robust

[rose jewel]

that's why i play EO

[brisk helm]

that hit hard

[wanton forum]

Hi guys not sure if how to go about getting help if possible or not. I was on a Vykas bus payed at G3 last stagger check phase before vykas killed and got EAC Disconnect, come back to empty crimson room, no rewards, no re entry ticket, in lobby gate 3 was still unchecked so I tried to join a G3 group and couldnt enter even with unchecked gate progress, then I keep EAC disconnecting repeatedly, I verify game files, and more EAC Disconnects, then get message about repeated logins and account security..... wtf do I do AHHHH

[rose jewel]

first of all

chill on trying to reconnect

game still thinks you're in due to fast dcs and reentries

give it some minutes

second

the ticket should arrive in between 1 minute and 48 hours, if it doesnt you can cry then coz its never guaranteed, just pray

[radiant flame]

rip bus gold

[rose jewel]

third, dcs suck massive D but some times nothing you can do if its EAC, check your pc to see if you have anything else that uses EAC or any other sort of anti cheat opened, if possible play lost ark on a fresh restarted pc with nothing else opened (games, you can still use chrome or discord etc)

last but not least, try to learn the raid instead of being bussed ;D

get a welcoming guild and ask them for a run or to be teached

or look for learning parties, several places where to find one

[wanton forum]

hard to practice when no learning partys, already posted here, almost never any in game, and Im old and disabled so hard to play on a schedule, i play when hands work and feeling up to it or get bussed sometimes

never had EAC issues like this before, PC clean and fresh always, kinda crazy about that

[radiant flame]

I think a guild is your best bet then

[rose jewel]

eac has been an ongoing problem for.... forever

some get the worse of it

some others never got it

[wanton forum]

most guilds are on regular schedules, I'm a disabled insomniac very irregular to say the least

[rose jewel]

nah

you're making it look harder than it is

first of all, you always ask first before getting into one

[radiant flame]

plenty of insomniacs in mmos

[rich leaf]

was this just recent or a few hrs ago?

[rose jewel]

second, no one plays on a 9-5 schedule

well, some do

but not "all"

[wanton forum]

yes very recent like 20 mins ago

[rich leaf]

oh, its not you then.

i was on a bus few hrs ago and someone dced, so some rando got a free bus lol

[keen relic]

i can do valtan/vykas normal w/ no gems right

for my alts

[radiant flame]

??

[keen relic]

[rose jewel]

??????

[subtle helm]

You could but if I had a lobby I wouldn't let you in

[rose jewel]

i would pay to kick you ngl

[keen relic]

even on supps?

[radiant flame]

do you think alts are special

[trim shadow]

Lmao

[keen relic]

i thought on a reclear it wouldn't be that important

[wanton forum]

👀

[rose jewel]

surprise, it is

always

[radiant flame]

and get bonus stats

[lethal drum]

yo how do I deal with the guardian boss glowing blue on a deadeye? sniper skills right?

[keen relic]

[open forge]

Can you receive world tree leaves from platinum field?

[wanton forum]

no gems for alts 🤣

[radiant flame]

no

[rose jewel]

counter attacks?

[lethal drum]

im supposed to like stun it right lmfao i haven't played in a year

[rose jewel]

if you're a deadge you're probably on the beast's ass, so its not your problem imo

unless he turns

[lethal drum]

yeah im soloing it rn,

[rose jewel]

then you gotta have gamer god's reflexes and press your counter skill

(its not that hard)

that said, i have no idea which is your counter or if you even equip one as deadge

[lethal drum]

yeah I was going to sya

[brisk helm]

is there easy way to get galewind and bleed rune instead of just boss drops

[lethal drum]

im reading my skills, how the fuck do I figure out which one counters

[radiant flame]

it says counter: yes

[trim shadow]

there is a line that says counter : yes

under the ability tooltip

[lethal drum]

ohhh

found it

thanks guys

[rose jewel]

there are a couple of skills that gain counter on one tripod no? i think GS has one

[brisk helm]

like from merchant collectable or adventure tomb etc

[rose jewel]

and by a couple i mean 1 or 2 in existence

[trim shadow]

Good to mention that you can see which of your attacks staggers / have weak point too there in case you didn't know

[radiant flame]

no they always counter

iirc anyway

[rose jewel]

alt+D, type rune name

you know what

[radiant flame]

there isnt anything special about gs counters for sure

[rose jewel]

leme get into my GS

it will bug me forever if i dont check that

[radiant flame]

peacekeeper+lr counters

peacekeeper has a movement tripod

[trim shadow]

Has there ever been heard of a region transfer ? Or is it a lost cause ?

[rose jewel]

lost cause

[trim shadow]

fuck me

[radiant flame]

which makes the counter useful

[subtle helm]

There are a few that lose counters

[brisk helm]

only way to get galewind is guardian raid but it never drops

[rose jewel]

k yeah its only mobility

[leaden imp]

hi, how many lvl 7 gems to make a lvl 10? thanks for helping out..

[wanton forum]

to many 😢

[radiant flame]

21

no]

27

[rose jewel]

3^3 no?

[trim shadow]

yeah

[leaden imp]

33?

[trim shadow]

no

[rose jewel]

.-.

[trim shadow]

3 to the power of 3

[rose jewel]

3^3 means 3 * 3 * 3

[trim shadow]

which is 27

[leaden imp]

oh

thanks a bunch

[shy yarrow]

[rich leaf]

do mounts have noticeable difference in speeds? or is it so small that i doesnt even matter

[radiant flame]

it doesnt matter

i dont even know when i mount

[rose jewel]

every mount has the same walking speed

[shy yarrow]

they're all the same, spacebar skill is different tho

[rich leaf]

yeah thanks, i wnna use the white wolf one but i was worried it'd be slower than the free legendary mounts

[shy yarrow]

white wolf best mount ride it proudly

[keen relic]

for my db/sh alt can i get away w/ jst surge and demonic dmg/cd lv7 on my alts?

[radiant flame]

i mean demonic needs no other gems

[agile compass]

Surge u might wanna get some lv6s too for other skills

[radiant flame]

but for surge, surge is like, only 65-70% of the damage

you also need cd gems

for your stacking skills

or it will feel...not good

[frosty fog]

how mush its Cerberus worth now i dont even see it on market

[radiant flame]

do you hate gems or something

[keen relic]

nah i jst have 12 chars

[radiant flame]

you have 12 characters and...dont appreciate the contribution of gems?

[frosty fog]

good damn Omen skyrocket in value

[keen relic]

nah im jst focusing gems on my main 6 rn

but was wondering if i could get away w/ no gems on the others for now

but ig not

[radiant flame]

so many questions

[keen relic]

cant remember how many 7's i get from 24 boss rush

[radiant flame]

ngl if you have time to play and raid with 12 characters

you have enough gold to get gems on them

level 5 gems dont cost that much

for someone with your economy

[keen relic]

ah so lv5 is entry lvl?

[radiant flame]

i mean level 5 is fine

for demonic idk why you wouldnt get at least 7s

[keen relic]

nah demonics my main 6 so i have it at 7

[rich leaf]

350k

[keen relic]

but i forgot if i needed more than jst the 2 gems

[radiant flame]

if its a main why dont you have it at 9

[keen relic]

main 6, not main main

scrappers my main rn

[frosty fog]

shees and my homie still havent claimed his in the og package lol

[radiant flame]

in main 6 i would still give it a 9. it will lack damage otherwise

[keen relic]

my gems are like 7-8 rn across my main 6 tho cuz i was also selling my extras for gold

at some pt

[radiant flame]

so you're not actually using the gems just selling them

ok

[frosty fog]

tf why its punisher sword worth 40k g

[rich leaf]

i mean, it was like 400k during launch then at some point 200k. 350k is actually cheaper now since there more gold sources

[radiant flame]

curiouser and curiouser

[keen relic]

i've been using them past 1-2 wks, but before i quit i was selling them

is wat i mean

cuz i jst recently got back into the game

[frosty fog]

on the lunch it was 3.5k xD

crazy times

[minor forge]

Haven't rly checked yet but does anyone know if there is a price difference on market stuff (profession materials / legendary books) on weekends vs weekdays

[balmy plank]

What region tho? Cerb sat at a steady 120k in NAE for a long time. It's been going up and pushing 200k now

[minor forge]

EUC

might've been a good idea to add that lol

[lethal drum]

Do I need to worry about how expensive a class's build will cost when picking a class?

[balmy plank]

Pain. I bought a cerb with gold for 100k and it felt like a lot at the time. Couldn't imagine 3-4x that

You could. Or you can play what you have fun with and accept that maybe it'll be pricey

[lethal drum]

i c

[radiant flame]

worry no, be aware of, yes

[rose jewel]

everything is expensive endgame

[radiant flame]

^

[lethal drum]

I made a shadowhunter for the demon build. heard it only needs like 2 gems or something lmfao

[rose jewel]

but there are some even more

[lethal drum]

i don't really understand tho

[minor forge]

I don't even consider gold cost when looking at alt, i pick them bc they're fun not cheap

[rose jewel]

heavy spec classes

[keen relic]

eo/robust books are both <1k rn

[balmy plank]

Transformation classes can get away with 2 gems because they have a gem that covers all their transformed skills. No individual gems needed

[rose jewel]

books yeah, how about accesories, she's full heavy spec

[lethal drum]

gotcha, so thats what im going for. idk how hard it is to get gems

[rose jewel]

either you get cheap low qual acces and be and feel smoge or go ham and spend 10s of thousands

also

anything under 5x3 is cheap imo

[balmy plank]

Not too hard. You get a few from your daily chaos dungeons. Boss rush give a bunch. You just slowly collect and combine as you go

[rose jewel]

transf classes even more so

[minor forge]

Not when you're poor😭😭😭

[rose jewel]

just be rich then

[minor forge]

Oh damn, why didn't I think of that

[rose jewel]

exactly

[minor forge]

Time to spend student pay on gold

[rose jewel]

just win the lottery bro, its that easy

[lethal drum]

which specs would you guys recommend to me? I like mobile classes and I hate big cds lol

I was looking at artillerist/destoryer they look dope but too slow for me maybe?

[rose jewel]

anything heavy on swift and dominion user imo

zoom zoom + low CDs

wardancer, tth gunslinger, eo soulfist

reaper

glaivier

[minor forge]

Arcanist seems low cd no?

[rose jewel]

arca as well

[lethal drum]

I tried arcanist in the korean version awhile back, I liked it. but I thought it was bad or something

or expensive end game

[rose jewel]

but tbh i dont have one so no idea

dude

if you just look at costs

you're not even gonna enjoy this shit

[lethal drum]

facts

[rose jewel]

play what you like and ignore costs, everything costs a shitton of gold end game

[lethal drum]

but like, I'd like to enjoy endgame as smoothly as possible, being new, if shits expensive thats gotta be harder for me right

[rose jewel]

no

[lethal drum]

makes sense

[rose jewel]

because 4x3 is cheap af

you can then worry about minmaxing stuff

[radiant flame]

if you only cared about cost you would make 6 bards

[rose jewel]

early-endgame is not expensive

[radiant flame]

which sounds super fun

[lethal drum]

LMFAO

i was gonna make a summoner, but I figured it would be expensive asf so I scrapped it

[rose jewel]

or paladins

pala is way cheaper imo, 3x3 is bis, bard is like 4 coz heavy armor (not needed but good to have)

jesus

you either play what you find fun or just...

idk, transformation classes

[lethal drum]

lmfaooo

[rose jewel]

or supports

thats it

dont be a cheap fuck, end game is gonna cost no matter the class

play what you enjoy

nuf said

[minor forge]

I remember I went heavy armour on scrapper doing no DMG, but literally unable to die, was so fun

[lethal drum]

what do you guys think are fun specs?

[rose jewel]

early days were wild

[radiant flame]

ah the classic question

[rose jewel]

people malding over getting 3x3 but rainbow stats

[trim shadow]

Its very subjective imo

[radiant flame]

i dont know how you will get any information from what we enjoy playing lol

[rose jewel]

i enjoy playing lost ark

[lethal drum]

lmfao understandable

[radiant flame]

classic wardancer main answer

avoiding the question

[lethal drum]

LMFAO

[rose jewel]

ofc

[minor forge]

My addiction has taken over, no emotion when playing just the grind

Only feel something when i win the excavation minigame

[radiant flame]

i think there is a general distinction between people who want to always be doing stuff

and people who just like big numbers

[minor forge]

I like both

[radiant flame]

ofc not the only distinction at all

some of the big meta chase burst specs will end up spending a lot of time doing nothing

except build gauge

which is fine for people who enjoy that

higher apm specs will be doing stuff all the time but you feel mega bad for missing just one skill from your rotation

most builds fall into one of those categories

[trim shadow]

My life as Tai scrapper

[radiant flame]

i personally like the apm playstyle

and slow classes for me feel like the worst thing ever

[lethal drum]

maybe I prefer these too. I played zerk, and waiting even a couple seconds for cooldowns felt dead lol

or are all classes kinda like that in this game

[regal pine]

tresaure map solo or with team?

[minor forge]

I can pretty much just spam skills, with like 1s max having to wait for cds

[minor forge]

Team

[brisk helm]

made 4x3 setup and looked on market too i can get this setup with 1500 gold pheons not included but quality is 50 ish for most accessories

[regal pine]

can it be done solo ?

[minor forge]

Yes

[brisk helm]

should i go for sht quality?

[minor forge]

But u can usually sell slots for gold making a big of gold on the side

[minor forge]

Rn I'm just going for 50+

I'm 1415

[brisk helm]

only one earing is less then 50

but cant find other cheap +4/+3 ones

[minor forge]

Then buy more expensive one, u can always remake the gold

[brisk helm]

rest are 50/60+

[minor forge]

Or wait a few hours/days for one to pop up

[brisk helm]

ya i didnt calculate pheons too which is biggest prob

i hv 6/6 stone already

[trim shadow]

pheons are gonna cost you more than the build itself x)

[brisk helm]

so I'll save on that

its not relic tho just legendary

[trim shadow]

if you can spare a little bit more gold, you should probably look for a little higher quality

[brisk helm]

ok I'll keep looking

[trim shadow]

unless you're looking for a quick fix build that you're gonna change soon

if you're sticking with this build and it's your main

[brisk helm]

i think I'll hv to change it around 1445 no? when i get relic gear

[trim shadow]

not the accessories

you'll change your gear

[brisk helm]

so i can try to get 5x3 setup

[trim shadow]

do you have some legendary eng books already ?

[brisk helm]

nope

but if i can get good stone I'll use legendary on robust spirit class since its 500 gold per pop way better then grudge which is 16k etc

as cheaper option

for later on

[trim shadow]

But i mean 1445 you get your relic set

nothing to do with accessories

you have them at 1415

Nothing will change at 1445

[brisk helm]

oh ya i meant whenever i try 5x3 i mean

I'll hv to change some of them

[trim shadow]

Okay then

[shy yarrow]

you can ideally use adren or another linearly scaling engraving at lvl 2 then when you finish books you only have to change 1 accessory for 5x3

plan your engravings well and you'll thank yourself later

[brisk helm]

okie ty

I'll keep checking for better quality accessories too

[digital escarp]

the skin chest in the event shop, when i open it on 1 character like my assassin, is it for all assassins or just that 1 assassin i opened it on

[lucid raft]

Really torn between both at T1 both Deadeye Pistoleer and TTH Gunslinger which will have smoother gameplay both have class legendary books

[rose jewel]

let me check on my wd to be sure

[shut pasture]

Anniversary skins bind to the “base class” of what you are playing so yes it would be useable on any assassin class if you open it on an assassin

[rose jewel]

but im quite sure its rosterbound

i mean class

[modern tide]

Pistoleer xD

[digital escarp]

owait srsly?? lets goo

[regal mirage]

i wanna host abyssal bus but what does no bid means

[digital escarp]

ty for thy info @shut pasture @rose jewel ♥️

[minor forge]

People don't pay u for the carry but in return you have first right to auction

So they don't bid unless you leave without bidding

[brisk helm]

can i only buy pheons with crystals?

[minor forge]

No clue, i have so many i haven't looked into it yet

[brisk helm]

cus people paying 3k gold for just 100 crystals

and i am gonna need 650 crystal if that's only way

[minor forge]

$->gold 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[balmy plank]

Outside of event vendors and freebies yes the only way to get pheons is with blue crystals

[brisk helm]

i can get some from event

but still gonna need more

i think

well ima take it slow

maybe there will be better accessories till then too

[balmy plank]

Patience always wins in LA. Just comes down to down long your willing to wait on things as some stuff can take a long time to achieve

[shy yarrow]

hunting for accessories can take months if you are locked to a specific one however, always helps to have gold/pheons handy so if a deal appears you can buy

[brisk helm]

when is anniv event gonna end?

[radiant flame]

why are you considering this in t1

no build functions very well in t1

[brisk helm]

cus i am gonna go away for a week so idk if i can even get the pheons from event

[radiant flame]

tth is horrible before relic gear

you will literally be spending 30 seconds waiting for rifle cooldowns

and you have terrible mobbing for story content

pistoleer is similar, and is just generally a weak build

i strongly suggest that if you want to go through the levelling process, use the more standard class engraving to start with (EW for deadeye, PM for gs) because you have more skills and it teaches you more about the class generally

both pistoleer and TTH are, in some ways, more advanced builds because while they may "simplify" the class by removing weapon(s), you need to make up for that with other things like relic level stats and relic set

i have played PM, spec TTH and swift TTH and i can tell you for a fact that PM is far better levelling

[shy yarrow]

losing a bunch of skills for some critrate sounds pretty meh for leveling you right

[lucid raft]

Cause im a not a meta chaser

I refuse to play meta builds

[shy yarrow]

idk what your question is then, both tth and pistoleer will blow for leveling and suck before relic

[agile compass]

Aeromancer is meta. Both builds are meta. Don't play it

Both builds are top tier dps

[shy yarrow]

pistoleer has zdps before getting engravings and tth will just lack cd's and actual stats/engravings

[lucid raft]

I do not really give damn about damage

[agile compass]

But they are meta

[shy yarrow]

then play whatever you want

[agile compass]

U said u don't wanna play meta

[lucid raft]

I was talking about between Pistoleer or Time to Hunt gunslinger

[agile compass]

Literally said not meta chaser. So only not meta chaser for gs and deadeye 🤔

[shy yarrow]

both are similar in gameplay and playstyle, debuff and dump dps skills

[agile compass]

Tth is alot stronger than pistoleer

[rose jewel]

we're just telling you to go something else for the time being, coz t1/t2/early t3 they suck in the sense of not working as intended

[balmy plank]

Not being a meta chaser doesn't mean youre not allowed to play something that's meta. It just means you don't care

[radiant flame]

'im not talking about meta at all

i main swift tth myself

and swift tth actually has the highest ceiling damage for gs

so much for off meta

[rose jewel]

shotgun sucks

change my mind

[radiant flame]

all i'm saying is that all of these builds are horrible to play at early stages in the game

[agile compass]

But refusing to play anything meta. Is different. No?

[radiant flame]

i can understand not wanting to meta chase

[trim shadow]

Is it just me or is kungelanium every back attacker's dream ?

[radiant flame]

but at some point you're also just making yourself suffer for no reason]

[trim shadow]

just did it for the first time

[lucid raft]

But i do have 9x adren and TTH Legendary book

[shy yarrow]

shhh don't tell him that he doesnt want to meta chase

[radiant flame]

tth is completely fine but you need t3 gear for it to feel playable

[radiant flame]

that is irrelevant

[rose jewel]

t1 doesnt matter to min max

its useless

you're gonna jump to t3 in no time

[radiant flame]

you just dont have the stats or the relic set to support the tth playstyle

[shy yarrow]

srf entropy build

[lucid raft]

Ah but for easier progging would be gunslinger until relic ?

[rose jewel]

eww

[radiant flame]

yes, you should progress with peacemaker

[rose jewel]

for easier progging its peace maker

[radiant flame]

fundamentally - gs has a lot of **long ass ** cooldowns

[rose jewel]

once you get what you need, tth

[lucid raft]

Yeah no thanks

[agile compass]

No one would accept a pistoleer to any raid just saying

[lucid raft]

Cant play much weapon swapping

[radiant flame]

???

you know you still need to swap on tth

like

[shy yarrow]

if you're still talking about leveling then idk man you will get through leveling in like a week and then be in t3

[radiant flame]

constantly

[rose jewel]

tth has much much more swapping due to much lower CDs

[radiant flame]

my side button is literally breaking from all the swapping

[agile compass]

Pistoleer is literally the worst class in this game.

[modern tide]

Not after ancient relic/buff next month

[shy yarrow]

don't tell that to #deadeye

[agile compass]

It has 0 uses. No stagger, no dmg

Crit syn. Other classes have it too

[modern tide]

WW bomb