lost-ark-help

[outer mason]

your honing levels are transfered if you change gear, so it doesn't matter too much
what's your current item level?

[kindred ruin]

794

[outer mason]

did you do yorn's storyline to unlock tier 2 gear?

[kindred ruin]

im done with yorn so yea

im doing the chaos dungeon on yorn

[outer mason]

right

[astral furnace]

chaos will drop the gear IF you have resonance

if not you need at least 50 resonance

cant remember the name but a quest also can give you the starter gear

[kindred ruin]

uh whats that suppose to mean? i just started playing again

[pliant pivot]

ur gear or accessories?

[kindred ruin]

everything

[astral furnace]

chaos dungeon is repeatable BUT you have resonance that causes full gear drops for the first 2 (there's an exception but i wont confuse the issue) first 2 chaos each day has resonance to cause the full gear drops.

[pliant pivot]

u dont get legendary from chaos that low level iirc

it's from feiton and even if u can get it dont bother with it just kepe on upgrading ur gear

ur gonna be replacing them pretty soon anyways

[kindred ruin]

so i just repeat chaos dungeons til lvl 960?

[wooden wigeon]

First time playing. Noob question: For the machinist, I have picked the tripod Precise Command for one of my skills. It says Require the drone command action to get +20%, what does drone command action mean?

[pliant pivot]

no

[kindred ruin]

what else then

[pliant pivot]

https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/resources/road-to-rohendel

follow this guide

[kindred ruin]

so much to read

[astral furnace]

well WITH resonance you will likely get all the base gear ....
continue running them (even without) for chance of mats and chance of further accessories but for the first 2 a day is full drops. other dungeons for drops. Islands for lots of honing mats.

[pliant pivot]

dont have to read any of it

just start from step 10

peyto island

[astral furnace]

USE that speed run! I did 3 weeks ago. i took my time (sorta) and took 2 evenings but got ASSLOADS of honing materials

[wooden wigeon]

alrighty then

[kindred ruin]

okay

[pliant pivot]

u should ask in #machinist

[low aspen]

how do i fish

[astral furnace]

next recommendation.... use the #lfg channel for your region and find a guild friendly to newcomers/returning players.

[astral furnace]

it will help more than you know

[wooden wigeon]

I did. nobody seems to want to help.

[pliant pivot]

i dont know anything about machinist so i cant help u with it

[wooden wigeon]

all good. I don't blame you

[kindred ruin]

is my fishing,hunting,foraging lvl important? i never do that stuff

[pliant pivot]

not really it just unlock extra abiliies for that life skill

[outer mason]

@kindred ruin I think something important to know that the game doesn't really tell the player:
Tier 1: 302 - 600 (honing past +15 is a waste of resources)
Item level 600 unlocks Yorn; after you've completed it you can get free T2 (802) gear from 600-ilvl chaos dungeons
Tier 2: 802 - 1100 (honing past +15 is a waste of resources)
Item level 1100 unlocks Punika; after you've completed it you can get free T3 (1302) gear from 1100-ilvl chaos dungeons
Tier 3: 1302+

[low aspen]

if it only gives the option for fish trap installation

does that mean i need to raise my fishing level

[astral furnace]

This!

[kindred ruin]

so the only thing i need to do is follow the guide now?

[pliant pivot]

click b and press whichever key this skill is on

[low aspen]

ty

[astral furnace]

dont hone anything beyond 15 until you are certain its needed in T3

[astral furnace]

and feel free to ask here. 😛

i am new to the game (3 weeks) and people here have got me on the right track.

[pliant pivot]

ye follow the guide to speedrun to t3 and make sure to not hone gear past +15

[kindred ruin]

and upgrade the stuff i got on now? or wait til i get better stuff

[pliant pivot]

yes, thats the best stuff u can get rn

[astral furnace]

well that and 347 hours in 25 days

👀

[pliant pivot]

you'll get better stuff when u reach item level 1100

[astral furnace]

what are you building?

class/subclass

[pliant pivot]

sorc from the looks of it

[lucid osprey]

damn its like as if you would play lost ark half a day every day ;d

[lavish grove]

The Ultimate Sorceress Infoset

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This information was created by community members · Feb 5, 2023, 4:04 PM

[astral furnace]

use that guide

[pliant pivot]

dont follow that guide

ur too low level

[kindred ruin]

[astral furnace]

retired widower/programmer with 15 grandkids.....
LOTS of game time for me

[astral furnace]

i should have made that clear

[kindred ruin]

so i just upgrade all my stuff to +15 and follow the speedrun to tier3 guide

[pliant pivot]

https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/build-guides/sorceress-leveling-guide

[astral furnace]

mostly wanted them NOT to start grabbing and using useless engraves until they understood them

[pliant pivot]

follow this one for now until you reach a higher ilvl

[astral furnace]

i made that mistake early but a member here caught it early and prevented me a lot of headache

[outer mason]

try to avoid giving them info they don't need right now, might overwhelm them

Lost Ark is a complex game with a lot of systems, need to take it slow at first

[kindred ruin]

whats up with the quality on all the stuff?

[pliant pivot]

u can always come back to ask for help

[pliant pivot]

it effects how much stats the gear will give, vitality on armor, power on weapon, stats(crit/spec/swift) on accessories you dont need to worry about that right now since ur still in tier 2 and farely new to the game but later on it will be pretty important

[kindred ruin]

kk

[astral furnace]

but mostly???
just HAVE FUN with it.

[kindred ruin]

i just went to peyto and i found out i already did the iceberg inquiry quest so what should i do now?

[low aspen]

how long would completionist take for golden terpeion

i really wanna get it done

[junior pelican]

Question: do Amulets not sell at all for older classes? I search for the most important Tripods and look at recent prices, but all I see are the old broken equipment sales from before the Tripod changes. Is that a bug or is nobody interested in them?

[kindred ruin]

i got it til 4. the sickly sea

[lucid osprey]

probably not interested

what kind of tripod is it?

[junior pelican]

Like Ignite for Doomsday (Sorc), or Asteroid

For instance, I do see one for Magick Amplification for Doomsday that was sold, but only one

None for Ignite, at all

[lucid osprey]

who knows not sure

[junior pelican]

I'll just chuck them then I guess

[lucid osprey]

they cost pheons so its kinda understandable why people not really buy them

also its not that "hard" to get them just by doing chaos someday

[junior pelican]

I agree; I was just wondering if I was overlooking something :))

[kindred ruin]

yea nah the guide is too much to read tbh

[lucid osprey]

just do the main quest and some side quest(if you want to)

u dont really need a build/guide

[dusky bobcat]

what does it mean when it says "you equipped an accessory at a tier that does not match the item lvl"

[lucid osprey]

what ilvl are you?

it probably means u have like t1 accesories but ur now in t3

if you know what i mean

it just downgrades until you get new accesories in t3

[dusky bobcat]

ohhh okay ty

i just got to 966 last night

[lucid osprey]

yea ur probably have t1 accesories but ur in t2 rn

[dusky bobcat]

gotcha ty ill fix that asap

[somber jewel]

for early 1445 (only 2 relic) is the differences between 1370 and 1415 for accessories crucial? Do I need all 1415 or is one 1370 fine if it helps with engravings and has the right stat

[low aspen]

does this mean roster based

[timber mauve]

You talking about relic acc?

[low aspen]

cuz im not tryna do this on 3000 characters

[lavish grove]

The Ultimate Deathblade Infoset

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Reaper Community Guide

This information was created by community members · Feb 5, 2023, 4:49 PM

[outer mason]

this mean chain quest

[last wolf]

how do u fix this?

[dusky bobcat]

Any chance theres a guide/list on which battle items and utility items i should carry around with me?

or even which are better to get i have so many chests flooding my bank and inventory at this point

[somber jewel]

yes relic vs legendary

[kindred ruin]

solo guardian raids are so stupid

[outer mason]

main 3: blue health potions, whirlwind grenade, destruction bomb

[kindred ruin]

how the hell should i know where the boss spawns dude

[outer mason]

flare

[kindred ruin]

huh

[somber jewel]

flares show you where the boss is

just like in groups

[dusky bobcat]

tyvm

[last wolf]

what does WTT mean when someone lists a gem in chat?

[silver rain]

want to trade?

[last wolf]

how does area chat work? is it for the continent u r currently in? and if so does that mean it wont work if u r in stronghold

[outer mason]

yeah if you're on a continent it's only for that continent
If you're in the seas or on an island it's with everyone else that is in the seas or island
dunno about stronghold

[radiant spade]

Rovlen boss - Mari - CHannel 1 - Need help please! Bilbrin Forest - west luttera

[pulsar verge]

Are we gonna get a char slot when new class releases?

[wraith basin]

they've never given out char slots

[pulsar verge]

Fk

[elder sierra]

guys i unllocked the daily missions ... weekly missions and chas dungeons but i didnt get my tier 1 weapons how do i get thaat ?

[lucid osprey]

usually from chaos dungeon

if you didnt get it on ur 2 chaos dungeons then rip 💀

but i think u can buy them on the auction house

for pretty for free

[elder sierra]

free ? auction house ? dont you meaan the market ?

and why rip cant i just do it again xD

[outer mason]

other way to get free T1 gear is doing the shushire storyline

[elder sierra]

from where do i get that quest ? ( where is the npc i mean)

[outer mason]

blue questline, I think

but honestly before doing shushire, you should just try to do 2 chaos dungeons to potentially get T1 gear

[elder sierra]

i see nice thank you

[dusky bobcat]

How do i get better life skill gear?

[silver rain]

craft in Stronghold

[dusky bobcat]

ah damn it okay

[modern stump]

Hi!! Where can i farm this maps??

[silver rain]

field boss, elites/named of that continent

[modern stump]

tyy, let's farm for achievement :)

[turbid eagle]

would like to do if these skin worth to buy

[shy chasm]

Those skins are chaos drops can if you want to

[timber mauve]

I mean they’re like 1 gold. You make 4.5k gold from a single legion raid.

[turbid eagle]

oh i see, im a new player so i didnt know if i should buy them haha

i will just wait til i got to late game then xd

thanks

[river lynx]

There are consumables in the game called Flares, which when used in Guardian Raids, makes the Guardian visible on the minimap by placing an icon over its location. Also, if you damage the Guardian to a certain HO threshold, it's likely to run away to a different location. To make it just run to where you already are instead of some other location a billion miles away, throw a Pheromone Bomb at it.

[haughty nymph]

which argos set should i get on striker?

[shy chasm]

Preordained

That's the set for pretty much all classes supports use harsh oath

[haughty nymph]

ty

[maiden locust]

Hello, I came back to the game after 10 months away, the shop to buy crystals didnt work in the past, when you click on buy and then select how manu crystals you want and then "OK" button, nothing happends, but it was in February 2022, after release, so is ok, but right now, one year later, still doesnt work at all, is there any way to fix it?

[pulsar verge]

Are you on steam?

[maiden locust]

yes

[pulsar verge]

Right click on lost ark -> properties -> enable steam overlay

And restart

[maiden locust]

ok wait a sec please

[pulsar verge]

Happened to me too

[maiden locust]

wtf! I cant click on the square

[rose meadow]

can i exchange it somewhere or put it to bin?

[shy chasm]

Bin

[pulsar verge]

Cant tick the box?

[rose meadow]

ehhh

[maiden locust]

the box is in "grey"

I cant click on it or change it

[minor crown]

just sell to potion vendor for silvers

[shy chasm]

It's untradable and ur t3 it would do anything

[maiden locust]

I will restart

steam

[pulsar verge]

Wait

[maiden locust]

I remember that I could change that option before

[pulsar verge]

Go to steam settings -> in game

Enable overlay in game tick

If its ticked already then ye try restarting

[maiden locust]

I right clicked the game and then properties

[pulsar verge]

Yes but

Try clicking on steam at the top left corner

Then settings

In-game tab

Make sure enable steam overlay is ticked there

[maiden locust]

yesss

I will enter the game and try now

thanks for help!

[pulsar verge]

Make sure its ticked both in steam settings and lost ark properties

No worries

[maiden locust]

yes, its done

[polar shard]

it doesnt matter if i have defense reduction 3, it gets negated completely with HA 3 right?

[minor crown]

yes

[polar shard]

just looks ugly

[minor crown]

HA 1 is enough

Def reduc 3 is great, you can have 6x3

[lucid osprey]

thats why im glad my scouter looks like this

cant see my negative without scrolling down

;d

[buoyant herald]

same on my re blade

got - ms

but it doesn't count if no one scrolls down

[tall wren]

Is there a condition for pet skills to activate or do they just activate at random?

[river lynx]

IIRC all you have to do is be in combat

But once you are in combat yeah, they just activate at random, depending on the chance of activation they're labeled with

[tall wren]

Whats the cd on it?

[shy yarrow]

unknown exactly but its not significant

might get a proc once a min

[tall wren]

Once a min is pretty good tbh

[zealous crescent]

State of Red Gunlancer is depressing after Korean patch (rip Blue lol) - how do I choose a new main to powerpass and hyper express in March? Interested in the Striker/Wardancer/Scrapper trio, which one has best DPS for cheapo or anyone has any other suggestions? Rage Hammer alt is kinda repetitive, BT alt has to wait till balancer patch to be fun, I have 2 supports and won't make a 3rd one.
I like to not die in 1 hit, get heavy numbers and not be at turtle speed

[tall wren]

Highest numbers of the trios is probably striker or shock scrapper

[minor crown]

but they aren't cheap

[tall wren]

tru

[uneven robin]

Scrapper would be cheaper and easier to play

[minor crown]

gotta make a choice, cheap or high dmg

[tall wren]

Well he said heavy numbers

[zealous crescent]

"cheap" as in gotta save up and grind not sell a liver to afford being useful, I know they're not scouter level cheap classes

[radiant flame]

to be completely honest, the "cheap" only refers to getting to 5x3. they're all expensive in the end

[tall wren]

4x3+2 is also viable imo

[radiant flame]

but shock scrapper probably gets the most bang for your buck

[tall wren]

and it costs half as much

[uneven robin]

Nah

[radiant flame]

anything is viable :/ but that's not going to get you into brel pugs

[tall wren]

What's the diff between 4x3+2 and 5x3, like 5-10% dmg

maybe less

[radiant flame]

that's a lot

of damage

[zealous crescent]

Only reason for "cheap" is that I want to switch mains and I'm already a F2P with a bad roster so yeah

[minor crown]

yeah 4x3+2 with 2 as your book so you can transition to 5x3 later is a good idea

[zealous crescent]

this is always how I build my alts yes

[tall wren]

Yeah cuz EU/NA gatekeep is on another level. Even koreans think it's too much

[radiant flame]

? pretty sure KR gatekeeps on los30 rn

for exp parties

so im not sure where the "even koreans think its too much" comes from

[zealous crescent]

I really love the visuals of Scrapper, is Shock a piano play style? What differences are there between Scrapper and WD/Striker best engravings in terms of play style?

[radiant flame]

no shock is the slow burst style

[charred vessel]

does lost ark have any classes similar to combo points from druid/rogue in wow

[tall wren]

Shock is slow big numbers

[radiant flame]

and tbh - for visuals, scrapper is terrible

all the skills look awful

[tall wren]

Yeah, maybe will get an upgrade once Male Scrapper releases

[radiant flame]

male scrapper is being scrapped

[tall wren]

what

[radiant flame]

based on the recent loa broadcast

or - at least - highly likely to be scrapped

[zealous crescent]

So what would the difference be between Scrapper and Death Blow Striker or the other bursty WD one? Just bigger numbers for more gold?

[radiant flame]

given that noone is excited about it

[radiant flame]

DB has higher damage ceiling

but - higher investment required

you hit specific spec breakpoints to generate orb

shock scrapper doesn't really have such a specific requirement

WD is fine

eso WD is the burstier and highest damage ceiling but hard to achieve iirc

FI is fine, and is more consistent damage

they're all good. id maybe watch some videos to see what you like

[lucid osprey]

is the burst version for war dancer same as deathblow kinda?
or totally different

[radiant flame]

i personally think scrapper is super fun to play - either tai/shock - biggest downside is visuals

[tall wren]

Its a burst of a lot of smaller numbers

[minor crown]

yeah you gain orbs to use eso skills

[zealous crescent]

Well this was all very nice info for a starting point, thank you guys, any other similar classes in terms of tankiness and big numbers while I do these research? Surge is big but I don't really like the aesthetics that much. Love a good amount of abilities/hits with big numbers and nice mobility (as I said RH is soooo slow even though it dings fucktons). Mage classes.... ehhhhhh from a Gunlancer player :P

[radiant flame]

striker/db burst ceiling is also semi dependent on getting umars/lazeniths set

so just bear that in mind

which is a bit niche

think i saw something about the highest possible burst ceiling i think revolving around eso WD basically doing nothing until lining up burst with lazeniths

but umars/lazeniths is still kind of important for striker

which can be a bit annoying

[radiant flame]

um. think nothing else is really similar. "tankiness" doesn't really exist for most other burst classes. id just be careful coming from GL - you basically can't "tank damage" on any other class

new BT zerk should be super good also

could look into that

would be cheap to build too

oh you already know that lol

nvm

[zealous crescent]

my guy only needs BT books and he's ready to play :D even BT 2 is viable right now afaik
4x3+2 Salvation and gems ready just needs honing and patch

Is there any resource I can find that theoretically gives the ideal parties around a class? (Ex. for a striker I know for sure gunlancer + deadeye/gs/arcana and a support is a REALLY REALLY good party)

[buoyant herald]

for any bac attacker dream pt is gunlacer + blade + a supp (obviously)

if not one of those then someone with a crit synergy so arcana deadeye gs wd lance

[zealous crescent]

I'm not sure how I would value party syns for a Transformation Machinist for example, they're ranged and give atk power buff, what would be missing from 2 other DPSes

[buoyant herald]

all rest are kind a the same

for hm classes it doesnt matter too much just crit syn probably and anaything else

[zealous crescent]

and theoretically which classes benefit most from the atk power in crease (meaning that one is better than a missing crit syn for example)?

[buoyant herald]

everyone does equally 😄

[zealous crescent]

ight, thank you

[elder sierra]

Guys i got tier one armor from chaos dungeon ( that i just unlocked) and i got alot of honing mats that i can put alot into my armor but i dont know should i waste it on my armor or what to do ? i want to upgrade to tier 2 normally thats what would everyone do ? so that means i should upgrade my tier 1 ? or what to do ? these are also levels of tier 1 chaos dungeons .. like echo level 1 echo level 2 do they give better armor ? i see their rewards and i cant find any diffrence expect in accs

[buoyant herald]

just hone your armors and wep to +15

then you unlock tier 2 by doing quests

after you +15 your t2 armor and do more quests you unlock t3

😄

so just hone

https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/resources/road-to-rohendel

follow this and just rush to t3

[wild parrot]

hello i just get back from quting the game and there mission named
[Guide] Guides: South Vern
telling me to go to south vern but when i get back to the game i can't find this mission
i tried to go to south vern when i ducked said i need to finish bellion defense quest
but i don't have if with my quest journal
so what do i need to fix this problem ?

[buoyant herald]

guide south vern starts in north vern

[wild parrot]

[buoyant herald]

clicc that compass arrow thingy it shows you the exact location

[wild parrot]

i found it i didn't take the start mission in north vern

[iron remnant]

Hello, is knowledge transfer useful? And does it affect my main that I'm transferring from?

[buoyant herald]

it doesnt affect your main

and ofc its usefull 😄

[turbid eagle]

hi, i also have the same question about knowledge transfer

[iron remnant]

Thats awesome to hear, so does this mean I can save my vern passes?

[turbid eagle]

i have used up both of the north vern powerpass, and wanted to go for the 600 gold knowledge transfer for a characher

should i do it? or not

[median drift]

Does anyone know any lost ark discord servers that cater for blind prog players?

[buoyant herald]

no point saving them better save your gold and use them

[buoyant herald]

only use the north vern one tbh not worth using others

[iron remnant]

Alright thank you, if you don't mind me asking, as a 1325 player what's the easiest way for me to farm gold?

[turbid eagle]

i see, thank you :))

[buoyant herald]

not much you can do at that point really

make sure you do the unas weekly tokens

and your abyss dungeons

[elder sierra]

should i use these pouches that give ALOT of mats in honing in tier 1 or should i wait to use it in tier 3 ?

[buoyant herald]

this unas i mean

[buoyant herald]

just run islands can open few once you are done with those

[elder sierra]

if i use all these pouches every other account has to be tier 3 to me farm tier 3 mats ?

[elder sierra]

i am kinda new so i dont understand what you mean

[buoyant herald]

check this out

[elder sierra]

i tried clicking on the website when u gave it to me but it never loads

my internet is fine

[buoyant herald]

huuh

[elder sierra]

says this site cant be reached

[buoyant herald]

try some other browser ?

works for me

[serene vine]

how can i unlock the frog that gives gold recipes

[buoyant herald]

you cant it was an event thats over for a while

should be coming back in a few months

[serene vine]

rip

[terse coral]

can i solo first cube?

[radiant flame]

i would not solo cube

[terse coral]

damn

ok

[radiant flame]

?

why do you want to solo

also dont bother running t2 cube

[terse coral]

finishing the t3 speedrun

but no queues for first cube

[radiant flame]

shrug, you can then

shouldnt be hard to just complete it for the quest

idk how far you hav eto get, think bronze is enough?

so just complete the first 3 rooms

[terse coral]

ye says bronze

[radiant flame]

ok 3 rooms

and then quit

[buoyant herald]

you can probably get to bronze solo

go for it

[terse coral]

ok ill try 😄

[iron remnant]

Will do

[terse coral]

the 802 blue gear from yorn is the stuff i upgrade to 960 right?

[radiant flame]

yes

and eventually to 1100

[terse coral]

ok cool

[native kindle]

hi, im 1415 and im confused on what to do, should i craft the legion gear or keep honing my preordained (abyss gear)?

[buoyant herald]

you need 1445 to craft legion gear

[native kindle]

my bad, i mean the gear thats crafted from "Demon Beast Vein" (demon beast strenght set)

[buoyant herald]

no its a waste

[native kindle]

thanks, then i'll just push my current gear higher

[buoyant herald]

[dusky bobcat]

is there a list or anything of which una tasks are best to do?

[buoyant herald]

for leapstones

[jolly elm]

Is this good for epic eng books? and what should my last engraving be if i manage to get 5 pts leftover?

[dusky bobcat]

ty

[radiant flame]

nothing good will be cheap, so just ignore it

ether predator probably best option but you shouldn't look for it

[jolly elm]

going for heavy armor isn't such a bad idea i guess then

[radiant flame]

no

it will get you into bad habits

and plus, you shouldn't sac quality

to look for it

[jolly elm]

yeah def not gonna compromise anything for it, just want something

[radiant flame]

why do you want something?

[narrow pier]

what is challenge abyssal dungeon ?

[radiant flame]

equalised abyssals

[narrow pier]

That mean everyone with the same stuff

?

[radiant flame]

stats, yes

[jolly elm]

i guess there's no need rly, i'll just cut a 5 5 stone to save on pheons

[narrow pier]

Oh that's hard

[radiant flame]

not really, it's easy. just know the mechs

[radiant flame]

i would advise cutting an a good stone

because you'll need one for 5x3 anyway

but that's just me

[prime ore]

Hi, the next frog will be my first frog. Does it have a limit on how many books I can buy?

[radiant flame]

lol

yes

[prime ore]

Aw... ty

[radiant flame]

6

[prime ore]

tyvm

[radiant flame]

if its the same as last time

they could implement it differently

just beware

it's literally a gamble

more people lose gold than not

[high stone]

Does anyone know how much roster exp the thronespire gives at level 26?

[blazing plover]

can you buy rowen blue/red skin on multi chars or is it first one only?

[modest hound]

hi,does anyone have merchant with 'judgement' rune in their stronghold?😟

[solar elm]

is this good setting for dismantling?

[hearty stratus]

hi, does gearscore matter for medeia siege event? in example 1430 alt vs 1500 main

[thorn coral]

does anyone know how to get the trusted status for the auction house

[wraith basin]

it's equalized but higher gear score is still a little better

[maiden locust]

hi guys, whats the cheapest way to climb fast item level from 1370 up to 1490? for example, I only do orehas gear set and ignore argos gear set, then get Valtan or Vykas set? for the next milestone?

[radiant flame]

no reason to not get 2p argos really

[wintry mauve]

The strat like that ain’t worth imo. All u can do is hone rlly

[radiant flame]

but you can skip if you want

[maiden locust]

why you want argos set? if you will transfer it into another set?

[radiant flame]

you save like, 5 leaps

[maiden locust]

is cheaper and faster just do orehas, right?

[radiant flame]

why is it faster

[maiden locust]

because to craft argos set you need to wait one week

[radiant flame]

you cant get all oreha 1 week

?

you craft 2p argos

[rose jewel]

???

[maiden locust]

because I cant go into argos g2

I only can do argos g1

[radiant flame]

??

1370

[wintry mauve]

U can craft all the pieces u need in one week with both Oreha and Argos boxes

[radiant flame]

all gates

[maiden locust]

Im not strong enough

[rose jewel]

????

[wintry mauve]

Buy bus

[maiden locust]

where is the ticket for the bus?

[radiant flame]

....

[maiden locust]

npc?

[wintry mauve]

How far into the game r u

[radiant flame]

i feel like there's a lot of fundamentals you still need to understand

before dreaming of 1490

[wintry mauve]

Fr

[rose jewel]

i think he wants to reach the big bois leagues without an understanding of basics

[amber totem]

1490 is like at least 2+ months away unless you want to swipe

or lost ark is your job

[radiant flame]

so 1370 argos - you either buy a bus (carry) usually by buying a gem, or get a friend, and get the friend to carry you

[wintry mauve]

Even then it’ll take h forver swiping is the only way to hone fast

[rose jewel]

tell me mio, are you a whale? are you able to spend a couple thousands on the game?

do you have people / friends / guildies at end game and wanna get there yourself fast?

[dusky bobcat]

I just hit 1080 and im not really sure what else i should be doing aside from chaos dungeon

[radiant flame]

get

[dusky bobcat]

i mean ive honed but idrk what else i shoud be trying ot do to make sure i progress easily

[radiant flame]

to 1100

[rose jewel]

nothing, focus on getting to t3

[dusky bobcat]

ah okay gotcha

ty

[amber totem]

keep honin

[rose jewel]

then you can start your hourney to endgame and on horizontal content

[maiden locust]

Hey guys, can we report a guy who sells bus and leave after payment and recreate again others bus after?

[amber totem]

wowee what a jerk

You can report but it won't do anything

[radiant flame]

you can try on bus discord

but

harsh but, your fault for riding a bus

[amber totem]

Risk you take* for riding a bus

[radiant flame]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[amber totem]

The game designs it that new players HAVE to bus at first.

[radiant flame]

it doesn't?

[amber totem]

or get straight into a guild that will carry you.

[maiden locust]

yeah, I just want to prevent other people from

which is the next gear after orehas/argos?

[rose jewel]

create a party saying "X person scam busser, leaves after payment" and perhaps report to amazon, but doubt they'll do anything

[amber totem]

IDK man have you been a new player in the last few months?

Cos I have.

[radiant flame]

yeah, it sucks, but id much rather find a guild to help carry me than buy a bus

[amber totem]

Its nigh on impossible to get into anything and waiting 2+ hours for a learning party to fill is tough

[radiant flame]

even if it takes longer

[amber totem]

Ive got a good guild now and am happy, but at first it was transit city

[rose jewel]

i would look for a group willing to carry a mokoko, or open a group myself

and if you dont even know the raid, open or look for a teaching party

[radiant flame]

there are no other options at 1370

[merry reef]

this works on any CC? freeze for example?

or only stuff like burn etc

[rose jewel]

im gonna sound like a real fucking asshole in here, but im kind of glad the scam happened, that way you learn the game and not opt for a bus

[radiant flame]

yes, but there are some mechanics it wont

[maiden locust]

Ok, I ask it in another way, which hear you need to honing in order to get +1400 and +1500 ilvl?

where do you get the gear?

[radiant flame]

argos, oreha

smh, you know this already

[maiden locust]

because on tier 1-2 you get in chaos dungeons

[amber totem]

Argos into Vykas and Valtan relic gear

[merry reef]

Should work for turtle orb freeze then right?

[wintry mauve]

I mean new players have ur rough rn. Unless u wanna wait forever to scrounge up enough gold to get a proper build ur gonna wanna bus

[radiant flame]

yes, but this is tier 3

[amber totem]

Then into level 2, then into Brel gear

[rose jewel]

1500 is way way way way off for you yet

[radiant flame]

er? tbh ive not done turtle in so long, which freeze

yes

oh that one

yes it will

[amber totem]

im at 1472.5 and 1500 is probably at least 3 weeks away for me

[radiant flame]

because bard shield stops it

[merry reef]

correct, good to knoow ty

[rose jewel]

Once you hit 1370 you will be crafting legendary gear to hone further, you get them from 2 places, Abyss dungeon HARD mode and Argos raid.
For "Optimal" crafting, you will be getting 4 abyss dungeon pieces and 2 argos, one of the abyss pieces will be the weapon.
Abyss nets you a total of 48 materials to craft (including first time completon on both Aira's Oculus and Oreha Preveza) AND buying both chests at the end of each, you will be using 45 to craft the weapon and whatever 3 armor pieces. Dismantle the other 3 abyss mats for 3 leapstones.
Then you will do Argos raid, you only need gate 1 and buying the chest from it to craft your other 2 pieces (including first time chest), it gives you 26 Argos blood in total, and you need 24 for the 2 pieces, the rest of the argos blood (you should be getting 40 total if you ran the 3 gates, so 40-24=16) will be dismantled since they give you 2-3 great honor leapstones. 2 Argos set is more than enough, never craft 5 set coz literally no one uses that set anymore, it's useless if you dont have another persont with the opposite set to combo with in your party.

if you're willing to read a wall of text

[radiant flame]

but, kind of useless on pala, because dps doesn't want to eat it

[rose jewel]

if you ask again i will just lose my mind

[radiant flame]

better for you to kite orb and let dps hit

[austere basin]

Umm I cant find nia

what is going on

she should be in the matriarchs office

[rose jewel]

she ran from you

she's scared

[radiant flame]

you're mid quest somewhere else

[austere basin]

Shes not there

whaat

[radiant flame]

and she's in a different location

that's the only explanation

[rose jewel]

of course she isnt, you're in a quest that needs her to move to somewhere else

either a rapport quest from her or other npc

[merry reef]

Oh yea im not the pally, I am trying to figure out if I can yell at my pally friend to cleanse me 😉

[radiant flame]

^

[radiant flame]

oh, yeah, do that

[austere basin]

ha yes it was

found her somehwere else

[maiden locust]

whats the max ilvl you get with argos/orehas set before you transfer to the next step? for example, in tier 1-2 you need to transfer from one set into another because you cant keep upgrading the same set

[radiant flame]

you can to go 1490

[maiden locust]

and how you can get the new set and whats the max ilvl until the next?

[radiant flame]

smh

[amber totem]

1490 is +20 on argos+ set

[shut junco]

Would anyone mind helping me work my way through my next honing priority after artist?

[amber totem]

you will not get into raids if you dont have relic though

[shut junco]

I'm not sure if I want to do 1430 arti to 1460, 1415 pally to 1460 or 1475 bard to 1490

[rose jewel]

soul stealerister

[maiden locust]

so, if there are people +1500, which set are they using?

[rose jewel]

then ditch all the other chars, 6 soul stealer roster

[radiant flame]

mix of relic and brel relic

[amber totem]

They have parts of brel

[radiant flame]

i think you should, maybe play the game, learn a bit

[maiden locust]

so, you go from argos set, into brel set

[radiant flame]

no

[rose jewel]

no

[radiant flame]

you usually to to vykas/valtan

unless you are giga stacked and are pushing hard

and have friends carry you through brel

[rose jewel]

you still HAVE to get pieces from valtan and vykas, you CANT hone transfer leggo > brel

[maiden locust]

but vykas valtan set dont make high your ilvl, it only gives you more strengh, right?

[radiant flame]

you can can't you?

[rose jewel]

cant

[radiant flame]

i thought you can

oh

rip

[rose jewel]

you need 6 relic pieces

to hone transfer to brel relic

[amber totem]

Youd hit like a wet noodle with argos set at 1490

[maiden locust]

is there any guide of this?

[rose jewel]

several people have tried in here, you cant

[maiden locust]

in maxroll is really bad explained

[radiant flame]

til

[shut junco]

I mean

That's just hone transferring right?

[radiant flame]

its not

[shut junco]

You can still hone the brel pieces yeah?

[rose jewel]

@maiden locustyou're trying to get into end end game, THE current endgame, without any kind of info of basics

[amber totem]

imagine not transferring from +20

yikes

[rose jewel]

just go slow and learn your way through

[amber totem]

I guess youre technically correct though. You could just sink way more resources and start from scratch

[maiden locust]

maxroll site explain things only for experienced players, something simple as getting gear and getting ilvl is really bad explained

[pseudo atlas]

i mean the scenario is really narrow and unlikely to happen but...theoretically if you can craft it you can hone it

[maiden locust]

thats why Im here asking

[rose jewel]

again, for the 1043874523845318th time, if you're not an hyper whale, just go slow and ask as you hit a wall

[amber totem]

maxroll is the most newbie friendly site ive come across, aside from this

discord

[pseudo atlas]

being unable to gear transfer is weird though

[rose jewel]

reach t3 1100, get punika chaos dungeon pieces, you're now 1302, hone to +15, read the fucking text wall i pasted in here messages above, hone to 1445, BEAT VYKAS AND VALTAN TO CRAFT RELIC GEAR, keep honing to 1490, NOW you get brel pieces

i dont know if i can put it any more simple than that

btw you should be doing legion raids as soon as you hit 1415

but since its not that simple (i kind of tldr'ed way too hard, there is a lot more going on) you have to ask as you hit walls, you cant just ignore the basics and jump to end end game as simple as that

[tawdry yoke]

Is thronespire per roster or character?

[radiant flame]

roster

otherwise, rewards would be kind of busted

[tawdry yoke]

Best place to get harmony shards besides dungeons? Just missing a bit

[sleek goblet]

Tower

[shut junco]

festivity island, trade ship in the port, mayhem and brel marks

[tawdry yoke]

Orange?

[sleek goblet]

Oh its honor shards

[tawdry yoke]

Honor sorry

[sleek goblet]

this

[radiant flame]

auction house

[sleek goblet]

• pvp npc

[shut junco]

Guild shop as well, forgot about that, mb

[radiant flame]

you can do unas too

[sleek goblet]

Is getting into guild worth it much?

Im guildless now

[radiant flame]

yes

guild shop is super important

and insane valuie

[sleek goblet]

I see

[tawdry yoke]

How do you get blood shards?

[amber totem]

good guild will make the game easy to play too

[silk shard]

*static

[amber totem]

good luck finding a static as a new player

[radiant flame]

blood shards?

[amber totem]

i assume guild currency?

[radiant flame]

then doing guild quests, donating silver, going to guild page

[severe drift]

hey i want to change from having multiple classes as alts to just going 6 gunslingers. all of my alts are 1430 or 1415 what is the best way of going about this? i would rather share the same gems across diff characters as someone with limited time to play the game weekly id rather have my progress make larger strides

how do i go about liquidating my other 5 classes and making them into gunsligners?

[rose jewel]

just...kill them

1 by 1

[amber totem]

lol

[rose jewel]

there is no black magic involved

kill, create, reach 1415, kill create etc

[radiant flame]

ironic given they're being killed for floorslingers

[rose jewel]

beyond sad

[severe drift]

thanks for the advice

[rose jewel]

i would kms instead if i had to play 6 of the same class ngl

game would be super boring, personally speaking

[amber totem]

it might be worth not killing them, parking them as lopang alts and bringing up the gunslinger

[rose jewel]

i doubt he wants to buy 5 char slots

[severe drift]

thats so funny maybe that would be the case for me if i didnt get gatekept on all of my classes for no reason so im just gonna get super omega juiced and call it a day if you dont accept a 1430 gs with level 10 gems then im just uninstalling LOL

[rose jewel]

????????

[amber totem]

.. ?

[rose jewel]

mayor copium

[severe drift]

wdym

im saying

my power will transfer better

[amber totem]

if you whaled hard enough to get level 10 gems

[rose jewel]

not whale

[shut junco]

Same

[rose jewel]

but instead of lv7 across the roster, just focus on 1 char alone

[wintry mauve]

Just cuz u have all the same class doesn’t mean ur gonna get lvl 10 gems instantly

[shut junco]

Hence bard, pally, artist, instead of 3 bards

[rose jewel]

besides

[shut junco]

Even though 3 bards is technically more efficient

[amber totem]

Ah, in the future level 10 gem. I see.

[rose jewel]

if your other classes are being "gatekept", there is something wrong, very very very wrong in here

how is your GS 1430 not being gatekept but your 1415 alts are

[severe drift]

my gs is 1460

im just saying its easier to transfer power with the same class

[rose jewel]

i wanna think on like 20 things your alts have wrong (same thing, not for being 1460 you wont magically not get gatekept)

[severe drift]

not here to argue just wanted some advice ill be on my way take care yall

[wintry mauve]

Ur still gonna be gatekept for a while by the time u have lvl 10 gems u could’ve just gemmed out ur other alts

[amber totem]

i dont think gems is the reason for gatekeeping most of the time anyway

[shut junco]

Buying pm12 and transferring 11 gems between each alt is technically gold efficient, but it isn't all that fun

[wintry mauve]

True it’s ilevel and engravings mainly

[severe drift]

im chilling on all those 4x3 all my alts

[amber totem]

ilvl, roster level, engraves

[rose jewel]

if he thinks he's not gonna get gatekept with lv10 gems, well, so be it, if he wanna play 500 GSs, let him

[severe drift]

thanks

[rose jewel]

we cant force anything, he can just recommend

but i bet my ass his alts had something wrong

but w/e

[wintry mauve]

Nah ppl gatekept if u don’t got at least 5x3 now for vykas

Especially if u ilevel

[amber totem]

just get guild

[wintry mauve]

True dat

[shut junco]

It also doesn't help that nobody does 1415 Valtans any more. It's actually just kind of impossible to find lobbies for that

[amber totem]

they will literally take my 3 negative sorc through raids

[rose jewel]

never seen a pug asking for 5x3, and im on whale land

[shut junco]

Hence why I just don't even try any more

[wintry mauve]

Yea guilds r rlly gonna be ur best bet. Pubs r gonna be gatekeep hell forver

[rose jewel]

a lot, if not most of the people getting into any valtan or vykas hard in the parties i join are 4x3

[timber mauve]

Not for me as a bus enjoyer

[rose jewel]

but they are stacked on the rest

cards, gems, high quality, roster

[amber totem]

arguably brel could be done with 4x3, but not clown'

[rose jewel]

BUT CLOWN CAN BE DONE WITH 1x3 WYM i mean, yes but no

[wintry mauve]

Ye depends on if u join a half empty guild run. Like my ilevel alts can get in with legend 4x3 if I snipe parties lol

[wraith basin]

[amber totem]

lol

[robust yoke]

does anyone have a sheet for uh
idk how to explain its just the like, item levels per honing level at t3

[amber totem]

resource cost spreadsheet?

1415 onward is 2.5 per hone

[wintry mauve]

U could just use the maxroll honing calculator to

[outer mason]

https://lostark.fandom.com/wiki/Honing#Tier_3_(1302-1370)

[rose jewel]

starting at around +6 (1325) onwards, you get +5 ilvs (+0.833 per piece), starting at +15 (1415) onwards, 15 ilvs (+2.5 per hone)

wait

let me edit correcltly

my brain is a mess

[merry reef]

someone know how many oreha HM for full set?

[rose jewel]

2 weeks, but why you want full chosen gear

that's trolling

use 4 pieces and 2 from argos

[merry reef]

cuz I dont play it for now, just looking to hone before books expired

and I dont wanna buy argos on non gold earner im cheap :P

[rose jewel]

???

you dont even need to buy argos

[shut junco]

I assume they mean buy argos bus

Not the boxes

[rose jewel]

1 run gate 3 and you have 2 pieces and blood to dismantle

[merry reef]

yes im 1370 with 0 engrave

[rose jewel]

well

godspeed

and that ladies and gentlemen, is the importance of guilds and friends

[merry reef]

My guild quit

[shut junco]

I feel that

[rose jewel]

and you cant join another one?

[amber totem]

https://tenor.com/view/find-another-one-lila-pitts-ritu-arya-the-umbrella-academy-get-a-new-one-gif-26245740

[radiant flame]

the whole guild, must have been some pact

[rose jewel]

not the whole guild, he's the last samurai

[shut junco]

The guild went to visit an alien commune

He was left behind

[merry reef]

well I did but you say its like its easy to just make friends in this game. most people already have their statics and I barely get to run with new people. I rather pay for a bus than be a leech that pops up to ask for free carry. if anything ill do a carry for carry with some randoms in PF

Yes, over 90% of the guild quit in a domino effect, why is it so hard to imagine lol

[radiant flame]

dont you have some high ilvl main, just join/form a static :/

[rose jewel]

im in 2 communities, a static and a guild, and they're cool people

ask kata

he also did some friends

he's in my guild

its that easy

c:

[shut junco]

I don't have friends

[rose jewel]

wow rude

[merry reef]

I do and I couldnt find something to work for my schedule back when brel was out cuz I was a week late. at some point I gave up on it

[slender jewel]

dear all ... i'm pretty new i played Lost Ark at the launch one year ago and now I want to deep dive in it
Is there any way to have a full stuffed character in level max directly now ?
someone talked about a power pack

[amber totem]

what ilvl did you leave on

[shut junco]

Anyways, Signum, got any input on the 1490 bard vs. 1460 pally vs. 1460 arti after I hone artist to 1475 thing?

[merry reef]

Thats what I did when I first joined the game and it was great. since then I joined a guild where most people bus and if they dont they already have a static so i barely get to actually hang with anyone. it is what it is

[rose jewel]

yes but not fully stacked to the max, a powerpass is something that gives you combat lv50 and a set of ilv armors/weapon depending on the pass you buy, max being 1370, the start of end game

to reach the end end game you gotta throw in a lot of bucks or just farm and slowly get there, a couple months of farming with some alts making money as well

[robust yoke]

ty

[radiant flame]

this is why you don't guild/static with people who bus

[amber totem]

sounds like a shit guild

[carmine breach]

coming back to lost ark after a 6-month break, im 1490 GL right now. Should I bother with Kakul gear upgrades or go straight to brelshaza gear

[radiant flame]

you need both

[shut junco]

Hey, hey, hold up

[rose jewel]

any is fine, but finding a pug for brel with lv1 relic set will be harder, unless you're the prokel killer

[merry reef]

Honestly I dont feel that many people look at your relic lvl usually

and people like GL in general

[shut junco]

Valtan runs are basically impossible to get into for the 1415 ones nowadays. I wound up trying for like 2 weeks straight and not a single lobby fired. The only real option for that is to bus and if you aren't then you're losing out on free gold

[merry reef]

GL that does prokel do would be easiest indeed

[rose jewel]

i said harder, not impossible

[radiant flame]

I do. pretty big red flag if they dont have level 2 set

[rose jewel]

that's why i threw the prokel killer

[amber totem]

when is valtan hard? 1430 or 1445?

[rose jewel]

45

[shut junco]

So while I prefer playing through the content, for stuff like Valtan nm there aren't really any other options

[radiant flame]

but if you have a guild you dont need to bus?

[amber totem]

it might be worth just honing to 45 if you can I guess. Normals nobody does. Otherwise just bus the normal one til you can get to 45 imo. I had to do that.

[shut junco]

Most people are at higher ilvl. It's unrealistic to ask guildmates to play a lower reward version of the raid they normally do, and that's even if they still do Valtan

Since Vykas/Clown/Brel is the best setup for rewards

[rose jewel]

a lot of people have non gold earner alts

i do have some 1445s, and since i dont care if i do normal or hard, i could help people out

[radiant flame]

most people do valtan

instead of vykas

just beacuse of time

[merry reef]

You are all acting like finding a guild with people who will just take you to carry you is easy and even more so finding people who play when u do. some people have fucked schedules lol

[amber totem]

i mean

[radiant flame]

i just dont think its as impossible as you suggest

[rose jewel]

i have extremely fucked schedules and my guild runs are just fine

[amber totem]

I looked through #guild-recruitment

for an hour

[shut junco]

That's... understandable, but even still, that's asking them to give up on book potential, Valtan drops and accessories

[amber totem]

and found my guild easily enough

[shut junco]

It's not impossible, just very unlikely, so it's understandable if people bus Valtan nm imo

[merry reef]

I didnt say its impossible at all, I just said its not that easy for everyone as you all make it to be thats all.

[shut junco]

Vykas nm is just losing gold and Argos is easy enough to get into, so those are like, less reasonable to me

[amber totem]

You wont find a guild in game. You gotta go external

[rose jewel]

you're just making it look way harder than it actually is

[shut junco]

And anything past that you're kind of a loser if you bus anyways so

[timber mauve]

I just buy 12 buses each week because I’m a busy man with 9 gacha games to play and bdo to grind at the same time.

[amber totem]

bdo enjoyers yuck

[shut junco]

gacha enjoyers yuck

I definitely don't play Genshin

[radiant flame]

idk, i dont even have a guild but my clown/brel static just has decent people in it who arent bussers

[rose jewel]

"icy yuck" i mean understandable

[radiant flame]

i hardly think im just lucky

[shut junco]

Oh, yeah, I'm not referring to Valtan hm, Vykas hm, Clown or Brel. It's just specifically Valtan nm that I totally understand if people decide to bus

[merry reef]

you realize some people play this game not to raid but raids are a huge bottleneck. not everyone need to play the game like you

[amber totem]

Valtan normal is like 2200 gold

to bus

[shut junco]

I've never seen it higher than 1400 gold

[amber totem]

argos is 1400

naw

[radiant flame]

i just feel like at some point, i just wouldn't want to play this game solo

[shut junco]

Agreed

[rose jewel]

we are in naw

[shut junco]

Did my first bard clown the other day and it was super fun with my static

[radiant flame]

like, if i didnt find my clown static id have quit, end of that

[shut junco]

Genuinely I'm starting to get frustrated with the experience playing dps' since the support raid experience is a thousand times better

[radiant flame]

so main thing im trying to get across is - its not even about how hard it could be to find a guild, friends in game, whatever

[merry reef]

I have 1 friend who plays with me but they dont enjoy raiding that much. Its a mix of raid anxiety that I dont understand and people being assholes in this game. Im just saying i dont see how this is wrong

[radiant flame]

but feel like you just have to try

[shut junco]

Just keep the idiots alive and make sure they're buffed, super fun

Oh, I totally get raid anxiety. I still get it every time I go into a raid

[radiant flame]

there are assholes everywhere lol

in all games

[rose jewel]

assholes are everywhere

[shut junco]

But I just kind of deal with it, since once I start and get into the gameplay it becomes more enjoyable than sitting there feeling anxious and miserable

[merry reef]

yea no doubt about it, all im saying I dont see why that would make them a "loser"

[rose jewel]

you will meet them once or twice here and there, but a lot of people are cool enuf

[shut junco]

I still think that clown g3 (when it goes smoothly) is the best raid experience in the game

Brel g4 is close though

[merry reef]

or u can do a few raids a week and bus the rest to get some extra gold if you enjoy the game that way, why gate keep

[radiant flame]

probably reading too much into the word, lost in translation and all that. i personally think bus culture is awful though and yeah, people buying busses at later raids do drive the culture

so, tbh i do not think much of people who ride like, a hm valtan bus

[shut junco]

Nah, bus culture for most part sucks ass. It's why I strongly disagree with Valtan hm and onwards busses.

Lost ark is the raids, that's the game

[radiant flame]

call me privileged or whatever, but yeah, its people buying the bus which means bus drivers exist

[shut junco]

If you don't want to raid move to an mmo that isn't as raid focused

[merry reef]

But like why do you care if people bus if its actually works for other people? like if there was no busses my friend probably wont be playing this game cuz she would be so far behind. both because she dont want to do so many raids and because of lack of time

[radiant flame]

then does she maybe think lost ark isnt her game

[merry reef]

okay well then you are just closed minded and gate keeping

[radiant flame]

i care because if you look at the state of brel PF

50% of lobbies are bus lobbies

[shut junco]

Again, lost ark is the raid experience. If you're stuck around and don't enjoy the raids then it's honestly probably sunk cost fallacy

[radiant flame]

kind of sad, tbh

thats all

yeah, i enjoy raiding my 1-6 with my static

[merry reef]

Some people enjoy other aspects of this game too, whats wrong with that lol

[radiant flame]

but yeah probably hard to find everyone to raid my alts

what other aspects of the game?!

there is none

lol

[rose jewel]

mokoko collection

kappa

[radiant flame]

sorry yeah

[tawdry yoke]

Is this a good time to sell honor leapstones?

[radiant flame]

i still have 200 left to get

[shut junco]

There's nothing wrong with enjoying other aspects of lost ark, but there are other games that do the same aspects but better and don't force you into doing raids you don't enjoy

[merry reef]

man some people literally enjoy doing a few chaos a day and then hone. obviously extreme

[rose jewel]

smh

[merry reef]

some people like horizontals

[radiant flame]

chaos?

:<

[merry reef]

some people like havings a daily game to play and progres in general

[rose jewel]

chaos, for some, are chill just gather and spam

i find chaos boring af myself

that's why my bard doesnt have shards

[radiant flame]

chaos literally feels like the game making you spend 10 minutes hitting keys

[shut junco]

Genuinely, if you like the horizontal content, daily progression and exploration/story, go play Genshin. If you like raids then stick around for lost ark, because genuinely, the entirety of lost ark is just the raids

[merry reef]

some people will download minecraft and only go fish if thats what they like, are you gonna tell them to not play it cuz its not the goal?

[merry reef]

some people literally enjoy that lol

[rose jewel]

genshin is even worse (personally speaking)

genshin has cool chars and good music, that's it

[shut junco]

All that I'm saying is that it is more than likely just sunk cost fallacy if you've gotten to the endgame of lost ark, hate the raids and are sticking around in spite of that

[merry reef]

and you are all hard gate keeping a game with more than raids because u dont see the fun in other stuff. thats a bit sad if anything not bussing

[shut junco]

So you'd probably have a more enjoyable experience going somewhere else

[amber totem]

i dont think we are gatekeeping

[shut junco]

I'm not at all saying you aren't allowed to enjoy the game

[rose jewel]

i dont bus, i dont buy busses, and i enjoyed my mokoko hunting while it lasted

[amber totem]

but you really should try and find a better guild

youre gatekeeping yourself

[shut junco]

Just that you more than likely don't actually like lost ark if you don't like the raids

[radiant flame]

anyway, o/t. we can agree to disagree. but your initial question had something vaguely to do with how you get an alt geared, and we've said it's reasonably easy with friends

[merry reef]

well for my friend she doesnt hate them, she enjoys a few a week here and there just not that much and for the rest she might buy a few busses while working. i dont see anything wrong with that

[rose jewel]

dis, this is going nowhere

might as well stop by now

[merry reef]

true yes I was not arguing with this

[rose jewel]

we going offtopic now

[shut junco]

At this point it's mostly just a disagreement on bus culture

[merry reef]

you obviously didnt follow the convo but its okay

[shut junco]

There are like 3 sides of the bus argument, people who hate them because they take the players out of the pool to do raids with, people who hate them on principle and people who like them because they don't want to play the game

[amber totem]

i have been

No worries though, I agree with above. I think this convo has ran its course.

[shut junco]

True

At this point it's probably just going to be ping ponging the same few points back and forth

[merry reef]

I was just trying to understand why you would say someone shouldnt play a game because they dont enjoy x. there is 20 other stuff that they do enjoy thats all. I appreciate the discussion

[amber totem]

this game is very raid focused, but if you want to go life skill only thats also fine. More power to ya,

[rose jewel]

quite some people PMing me asking about stuff says that they enjoy going around running in circles doing adventurer's tome and gathering, so yeah

that's casual players for ya

and its ok

[merry reef]

yea exactly, personally i dont enjoy it either and im all about raids too haha

[shut junco]

I'm not saying that you can't enjoy the other stuff, just that lost ark and 99% of it's development budget go towards the raids. Same with 99% of the playerbase. There are other mmo's that put more effort into the horizontal content, so it's not that you can't stick around and do it, just that you might have a better experience if you look for an mmo that's more tailored to what you want to play

[radiant flame]

to be clear, i was just making a suggestion that playing lost ark isn't essential, thats all. im never telling people that they just shouldnt play if they still want to. but there is some truth in - how lost ark continues to be developed and the playerbase that development is being focussed around

[shut junco]

There are hundreds of active mmo's right now, you can basically pick and choose to find one that exactly fits your playstyle at this point

And lost ark's focus is basically just grinding raids

[shut junco]

Same, exactly same

[merry reef]

I was not referring to you sorry. You didn't make it sound like that

[radiant flame]

no its okay, it might have come across that way, i can be blunt

[rose jewel]

time to go back to pokemon

[radiant flame]

got to train that ev

[rose jewel]

im just starting postgame

[radiant flame]

postgame starts from first pokemon right

im ev training from level 1 dude

[rose jewel]

teach me the ways

[radiant flame]

there was one version where im sure you got atk and spd ev in like, 2nd area

[rose jewel]

well

[amber totem]

which game you playing?

[rose jewel]

that would have been perfect for my grass cat

[radiant flame]

ever since i learnt about evs i couldnt handle bad evs

[rose jewel]

scarlet

aka bugland

[amber totem]

ah. I havent picked up any of the new ones since sun.

I got to like, gym 1 in sun and was like... This doesnt feel the same

[radiant flame]

base red is the best

[amber totem]

Fire red imo

[radiant flame]

fire red doesnt have missingno

[rose jewel]

sun moon i ended up liking them

[amber totem]

Play on emulator and you can create rare candies

[radiant flame]

gbc cartridge or nothing

[amber totem]

ive got them behind me currently

and my OG SP

[rose jewel]

i forgot about my gba sp for about 7 years, when i found it after all that time, it still had battery, red, but had battery

[radiant flame]

what cartridge was in it when you found it

[rose jewel]

castlevania

forgot which

[amber totem]

aside from various pokemon the last few games I have left are zoids legacy

and yugioh world wide edition

[merry reef]

Wtf lol you made curious. Apparently those batteries can last up to 10 years

Quite impressive

[rose jewel]

i told myself the same

how the fuck is it still with charge after years

[radiant flame]

heart of the cards kept it alive

[merry reef]

🪄

[amber totem]

switch is a little pansy compared to gameboys

goes dead in like 2 hours

[rose jewel]

coz its hybrid

if it was 100% portable, besides it having a bit less power, battery woulda been better, or at least i think so

[pure nacelle]

how much hp does kunga have?

[shut junco]

At least 3

[pliant pivot]

1.1b in a 4 man

[blazing plover]

what are the legendary odds from island card packs?

[terse coral]

can i upgrade my gear passed 960 before i head to feiton

[wraith basin]

ya

[terse coral]

ok cool

[amber totem]

if you can do enough you can hone straight past feiton to punika

[silk shard]

1.5%

[timber mauve]

Guess my luck is shit

[terse coral]

do you get t2 mats from Feiton?

[silk shard]

Why

[timber mauve]

I’ve been playing since February and I just got Los12 last week.

[rose jewel]

"Playing"

jk im at 14 LoS myself

[silk shard]

Does this playing involve card runs

[toxic herald]

hi can someone ezxplain me why i cant transfer knowledge soujthvern on one of my chars while ive been doing it for my other chars?

[rose jewel]

we lack info to help

a picture of the KT ui would help

[shut pasture]

Most likely you ran out of KTs that you can use.

[rose jewel]

there are like 3 reasons i can think of

but without a pic its impossible to say which

[timber mauve]

Yes, I ran cards for months. Haven’t done them in a while tho.

[silk shard]

Abyss dungs have 4% chance iirc

So one dung is more effecient then the island

[terse coral]

@rose jewel anything i should follow after the t3 speedrun? im in feiton rn just want to know if theres mats from this place cause im not quite yet at 1100

[rose jewel]

a bit of them

like, minuscule amount

[terse coral]

damn

[rose jewel]

hone to like 1080 or something for an easier time then use the rest of the mats to get to punika

[terse coral]

im at 1060 rn

[rose jewel]

good enough i guess

[terse coral]

i just dont have more atm , maybe after feiton and dailies tomorrow ill have enough to scrounge together

[rose jewel]

do you still have mats from the island route

hmm

[terse coral]

very few

[rose jewel]

have you bought the event mats

[terse coral]

i have that left

from islands

[terse coral]

which event?

[rose jewel]

hmm, leaps

festivity island

[terse coral]

i bought chicken skin and some t1 mats then turned off island alarms to grind

[rose jewel]

you do chaos dungeon / guardian raids, get event currency, then at the event island there's an npc, he sells a lot of honing mats

besides the event every X hours

[terse coral]

i have like 500 stars , i can check the island i dont think ill get much for that ammount tho

[rose jewel]

you better check it

[terse coral]

it ends wednesday right

[rose jewel]

i believe so

[terse coral]

ill go check now i left a bifrost for feiton

wat do i need more

leapstones or life shards

[rose jewel]

i have literally no idea how many shards you have atm

[terse coral]

so i can focus 1 on unas tasks tomorrow i already did todays

[rose jewel]

buy what you need

[terse coral]

4700

[charred vessel]

does lost ark have any classes with combo points similar to feral druids and rogues in wow

[silk shard]

Time to do some.now

[silk shard]

Not really

[terse coral]

well i bought all the weekly limits

so i guess thatllt have to do

[blazing badger]

I haven't played wow but have played clones, so you attack something to build up "stacks" and then unleash a more powerful attack with them? if my understanding is correct, empress arcana works like that, but it's a somewhat loose correlation

[charred vessel]

yeah like that exactly, ill check it out thanks

[rose jewel]

surge?

[blazing badger]

yeah surge is also similar but with many more stacks involved

[toxic herald]

kt?

[blazing badger]

knowledge transfer

[rose jewel]

i asked 10 years ago if he could send a pic for us to help

[toxic herald]

sry misssed ur message

[rose jewel]

im used to it

[toxic herald]

@rose jewel here brada

[rose jewel]

yeah figured

you have to manual it 1 more time for another alt to KT it

tldr so you dont get lost and confused

1 manual completion = 1 opened KT

[toxic herald]

oh damn no

[rose jewel]

see those big red numbers?

6/7

[toxic herald]

suck big time

[rose jewel]

you have cleared 6 times out of 7, you need 7/7 for a KT

[toxic herald]

😦 ty

sadge

[analog hinge]

Hey guys

What is the best EUC server with more population

Im on antares but this is empty

[rose jewel]

just to know

what level or item level are you

[analog hinge]

50 , 460

[rose jewel]

all servers and all regions at that point are dead