how do u get t1 or t2 tradeable accessories/gems
#lost-ark-help
pure nacelle
maiden locust
chaos dungeon
sand ocean
Questions about brelshaza Gate 6 113 black hole mech. How come sometimes the black&white orb will disappear at my spot? shouldn't it stay there until it shake for player to get in?
echo owl
it disappears if someone is too closew
sand ocean
so we just have to stay far away and wait until it shake?
echo owl
yes
sand ocean
thanks 🙂
steep rapids
is +23 wep and +12 brel gear stronger than +21, +15 brel gear for 1520 area?
broken sandal
this was great! I went for this change for ~20k total (+90 pheons), since I could re-use the most expensive earring. Thanks a lot!
maiden locust
this was great! I went for this change for ~20k total (+90 pheons), since I coul...
np
silver rain
is +23 wep and +12 brel gear stronger than +21, +15 brel gear for 1520 area?
yes in terms of Attack Power. there's about 2k different in AP
lament mural
i just used my hyper express do i keep honing here or nah?
silver rain
If you don't have plan to change express to another char yes.
ashen kindle
does gunslinger use AOA?
silver rain
If you hone to 460 do purple quest procyon curtain and sail to Rohendel. You can skip shushire can comeback to it later.
You can skip continent as long as you reach the required ilvl for it 600 for yorn 960 for feiton 1100 for punika 1340 for s.vern
timber mauve
does gunslinger use AOA?
Uh, no.
No double dipping. After you hone past 1415, you can’t swap at all.
You also cannot redeem mats again.
Uh, just hone it normally?
maiden locust
is paladin supposed to feel this slow? compared to bard, you use very few skills
timber mauve
is paladin supposed to feel this slow? compared to bard, you use very few skills
Paladin is probably the most brain dead class in the game.
maiden locust
is paladin supposed to feel this slow? compared to bard, you use very few skills
what do you mean, you use very few skills? its the same amount as any other class
keen hill
Soo, I haven't played since mid March and iirc I'm at 1335, anything new gearing/honing wise I should be aware of? 
maiden locust
Soo, I haven't played since mid March and iirc I'm at 1335, anything new gearing...
global honing buff till 1415 and hyper express till 1445 + free punika pass
keen hill
can you elaborate on "hyper express" part
so until 1415 I have a higher success rate from what I understood
maiden locust
yes much higher
20% orso
and lower upgrade cost
look for a gift box icon under your map for the hyper express
keen hill
will do, installing it atm :)
maiden locust
ohh
keen hill
I'd guess is like "do this - get this, get to 1445 even faster" type of reward / catch up mechanic
keen hill
Nice
And I'd guess I should save all the gold I have atm (no clue how much) for engravings - aka pointless to buy gear of the AH
maiden locust
dont worry about engravings till 1415+
keen hill
Gotcha, thanks :)
maiden locust
you can get a simple 4x3 setup for cheap at that point
keen hill
Also, is Zinnervale still as active as it was before? I see you're in EU West but worth the try to ask :p
keen hill
ah fairs, then probably it is
maiden locust
you should look for a guild, friends to play with
maiden locust
what do you mean, you use very few skills? its the same amount as any other clas...
Its not as spammy compared to the bard I just powerpassed
keen hill
yeah for sure, when I get to around 1445-ish I'll look for one, considering most guilds have a kick policy for offline ppl for "x" days
maiden locust
yeah for sure, when I get to around 1445-ish I'll look for one, considering most...
you should look for one right now tbh
the earlier the better
there are plenty of guilds that like to help new players
fading copper
so what is a better or more fun class to learn, gunlancer or bard, i cant decide between them since this is my 1st ever character
maiden locust
so what is a better or more fun class to learn, gunlancer or bard, i cant decide...
gunlancer is dps, bard is support
gunlancer is slow, bard is fast
take your pick
maiden locust
go for it
fading copper
bet
maiden locust
we sure need more support players in this game
fading copper
i just got the game and i like to play support in other games
so it kinda works out
fading copper
hey when im done with all this, can you help me out with stuff maybe?
maiden locust
what stuff?
fading copper
like learning about the game and the basics if that makes sense
pure nacelle
gunslinger players do u rebind the stance change buttons to something better than xz?
near mango
Are NAW servers getting merged? I cant find any info about this... is there official word on this yet?
rigid plank
No word on NAW merges yet
near mango
ok my guildies are trolling me. they said bergstrom is getting merged next week
hasty rover
is this boss based on any class?
near mango
^ that boss fight was sick. too bad its wasted on t1 content
timber mauve
Isn’t that Anika? so like below t1 content.
sick relic
what is this warning?
hasty rover
^ that boss fight was sick. too bad its wasted on t1 content
didn't answer my question though lol
green gorge
what is this warning?
I think it's just saying you have to click accept. Before you could press enter and it would accept, but it was probably changed because of bots or something
echo owl
it was changed because it was annoying
green gorge
what was annoying
echo owl
often someone accidentally escapes because they are in a menu and that pop up would show up
green gorge
oh that makes more sense
echo owl
there’s the argument that you can’t use enter anymore but whatever
fast plover
btw, is there a timer / interval for the ship merchants that sell sea bounty maps?
ebon aspen
hello, im trying to do the ealyn rapport at north vern, but after i did a quest that needed to save some goblins, there's no more quests and im a bit lost.
rose jewel
no more rapport quests or no more quests in the same rapport to continue
ebon aspen
no more rapport quests or no more quests in the same rapport to continue
but i cant speak to her
she is like
warped briar
anyone know how i can get this mount?
warped briar
ive seen it a few times online and its a item thats not being sold on their
timber mauve
anyone know how i can get this mount?
Don’t think that’s in the game 
rose jewel
and just where is that pic from
warped briar
rose jewel
of course its google
faint roost
How much does grudge cost in nae, and euc?
ebon aspen
okay one second gonna try to see if i can find something sadge...
ebon aspen
How much does grudge cost in nae, and euc?
euc 17k
rose jewel
press J and finish all the shit you have there
she's clearly being used in another quest
faint roost
Why so expensive, naw is 10.5-11 but class engravings are still expensive
rose jewel
bots
timber mauve
Bots
warped briar
Don’t think that’s in the game <:YEP:1008473667996504245>
apparently its from defeating the girl in the mech or something
scroll down abit
last wolf
can tier 2 cube drop honing guardian/destruction stones
timber mauve
apparently its from defeating the girl in the mech or something
It’s not in our version
faint roost
Cheapest grudge books, but most expensive mat prices lol weird
rose jewel
you are welcome
ebon aspen
tyvm
last wolf
is there a site to check for the highest and lowest price of a skin over the past x days
rose jewel
hmm
i think there is one, but i only have seen things like mats and books
no idea if skins are there
and no i dont know the site i dont have the link
timber mauve
It’s also a bit inaccurate given all those prices have to be updated manually.
last wolf
what about a site which can see whats the best thing to sell in the market? for e.g the raw mats vs the crafted product
rose jewel
same things as we commented above
and no i dont think there is a site that gives you the answer to "sell this now for best profit!"
honest ledge
how do u get the purple wealth run from secret maps? idk what these maps rn
rain meadow
you're talking about the 34 sea bounty wealth rune, get 34 sea bounties in collectibles
paper glacier
does the honing rate, double when maxed out for upper relic?
so 15 -> 16 is 4%, does it double to 8%?
rain meadow
after 10 taps, yes
frosty sundial
how can u ss in game?
tawdry yoke
Are you suppose to do legion raids on alts or mainly your main
rose jewel
do you like gold
hallow relic
cards are endgame
hallow relic
even then those cardpackss are super rng
if ur new just pick anything that gives u an immediate boost
anything that takes time just say fk u to that and pick the other option
frosty sundial
okay so stones then? lol
frosty sundial
ty
ashen widget
how do you cut stones lmao
is there a tactic
cuz i keep getting 4-6-5 or somethin imma cry
echo owl
the funny pattern recognition technique
well you can use a sim to better your chances through mathematics but you’re dealing with percentages
so you’ll be dealing with randomness
radiant flame
is there a tactic
i mean, the general principle (even if you use a calculator), is that you should be cutting blue at 55 or above, and red at 45 and below
until you can no longer cut red
maiden locust
Have we any information when KR will get the new balance patch?
radiant flame
but otherwise, it's 30 rolls of an RNG dice
ashen widget
😦 here we go again by spending 100pheons on stones
flat dagger
Having 2x legendary books reduces stone cutting costs dramatically, since you don't need a 7/7 or 9/5 stone.
hallow relic
😦 here we go again by spending 100pheons on stones
cut blues at 45% as well if u feel confident enough
radiant flame
cut blues at 45% as well if u feel confident enough
i mean, if you trust the probabilities, you shouldn't if red is still available
snow wadi
is argos worth for cards only? like abyss dungeons?
hallow relic
kind of i think
i dont know if u get a card from each gate like before
still pretty fast to clear and brainless to do
rose jewel
free leaps
lavish groveBOT
radiant flame
lol u should cut blues at 45
I mean, I don't understand - 45 is greater chance of failure than success. for a good stone you will need to succeed some 45s. but if you have red available, and you decide to cut a blue, you are kind of smoging yourself if you fail
rose jewel
yolo
hallow relic
if u want a better stone u have to risk it
flat dagger
But you see, 55% chance to fail a blue facet is better 
hallow relic
thats really the point
radiant flame
thats really the point
by playing against the odds?
hallow relic
u have limited reds so might as well fk it right
um yeah cause if u win its a big win
flat dagger
No, it's the opposite.
radiant flame
right
hallow relic
i mean its 50/50 regardless, u succeed or fail
radiant flame
i mean its 50/50 regardless, u succeed or fail
ok then why not just facet randomly anyway
echo owl
hit 75s on reds no cap
hallow relic
i mean why not i got like 8 reds today on my first stone of the year
hallow relic
cause why the fk not man, u might as well keep tapping
radiant flame
cause why the fk not man, u might as well keep tapping
?!
flat dagger
It costs silver per facet.
radiant flame
you dont like silver?
ancient lark
just hit blue until 35% and if you can't or fail in the middle then the stones is dud 
hallow relic
i mean i have so many alts so who gives a fk
radiant flame
why so angry man.
hallow relic
hm i just like the word fk
im not really pissed off or anything, i just like saying fk
radiant flame
anyway, you get very far on a rock by doing 45s on reds. it's how i cut my (bad) 10/6. you do need a lot of luck to finish a good stone, but no reason to force the luck at the beginning
fallen solar
excuse me, i need help with achates ;w;
rose jewel
you can ask in region chat, open up a party at #979604974218653736 (of your region), or ask ingame by doing a party in party finder os in area chat
fallen solar
thanks!!
radiant flame
if you truly believe the stone is random then you can do what you want, or you can try to "pattern recognition" (lol), but i dont think either of these things are helpful in a help channel
fallen solar
you can ask in region chat, open up a party at <#979604974218653736> (of your r...
my chat doesnt work
fallen solar
yes
rose jewel
it should?
hallow relic
if you truly believe the stone is random then you can do what you want, or you c...
to each to their own man, i just think its better for ppl to know they have to risk 45% sometimes
rose jewel
unless you're lv30 or less
rose jewel
weird that you cant use area chat then, unless they put another stupid" we trying to combat bots" measure and i dont remember it
flat dagger
Are you sure that it isn't just you having turned the area chat off in the chat tab settings?
@fallen solar
misty helm
This might seem like a dumb question but how is gold transfer between alts because i thought they were roster shared by my alts got two different gold amount
flat dagger
They don't have different amounts 
echo owl
gold is roster yes
it probably isn’t if you’re not crazy if you have some trade restricted gold on one of them
misty helm
??? i swear im seeing two different numbers
flat dagger
it probably isn’t if you’re not crazy if you have some trade restricted gold on ...
But that's also global.
echo owl
which is yeah you’re crazy
misty helm
but on one charcter i got 1k gold and on the other it says 200!!
radiant flame
pics or it didnt happen
misty helm
or does it have to do with the desiganted gold charcter thingy
misty helm
wait i send pic brain cconfuzled
flat dagger
In before it's not even his gold pool
radiant flame
my bet is that they're not in the same roster
sturdy mesa
probably a silly question... but... why is endurance not a stat priority for pally?
flat dagger
radiant flame
probably a silly question... but... why is endurance not a stat priority for pal...
its bad
misty helm
yeh brain went doo doo
sturdy mesa
ah. yea i was thinking about trying for a swift\end hybrid on my paladin... eventually. but yea, not if its bad
sturdy mesa
yea, was going for a tanky kinda situation... not really sure how it wouldve worked out. but the experiment woulda been fun 😄
flat dagger
Bad, since you want swiftness for supporting your team.
radiant flame
you don't find paladins tanky enough?
pure nacelle
whats the drop rate on getting a thick gold bar from unas chest?
radiant flame
whats the drop rate on getting a thick gold bar from unas chest?
low
sturdy mesa
fair enough. thx
echo owl
it’s around 1%
sturdy mesa
you don't find paladins tanky enough?
and, yea i do. but... i like to change things up
flat dagger
Paladin has what, 110% defence?
radiant flame
and, yea i do. but... i like to change things up
not the game to do it
flat dagger
Already one of the tankier classes in the game 😄
sturdy mesa
not the game to do it
lol i see that 😄
radiant flame
shrug, i have no issue with off-meta, but at some point you could essentially be griefing 7 other people
flat dagger
I mean, if you go endurance then you are.
Your ability to perform your buffs and shields are 0.
sturdy mesa
yea that wouldnt be much fun for anybody
flat dagger
The benefit would be more tanking ability on a non-taunt class. Which is already tanky in the first place.
radiant flame
party as dps with a spec bard and you'll understand, and spec bard is even supposedly semi-legit
flat dagger
Spec-Bard is good though, because of the buffs.
radiant flame
no comment
flat dagger
With tripods for meter gain, you get serenade buffs out the ass.
echo owl
it’s not good for general purpose
radiant flame
With tripods for meter gain, you get serenade buffs out the ass.
approx same as swift bard
echo owl
the main argument is just regular dmg buffs uptime
flat dagger
approx same as swift bard
But you give much higher damage buffs.
shut junco
While on the topic of bard, what are the most important meter gain tripods?
Just got a few hope amulets so I want to make use of those
echo owl
there’s like 2 skills
radiant flame
While on the topic of bard, what are the most important meter gain tripods?
wind, prelude
flat dagger
Storm and shield.
echo owl
ya just 2 lol
radiant flame
i think spec runs a third...possibly march iirc
flat dagger
i think spec runs a third...possibly march iirc
They can run Soundoholic one too, which is noticable.
radiant flame
They can run Soundoholic one too, which is noticable.
the usual soundholic tripods are actually, i believe more meter gain
echo owl
all yes rhythm buckshot for meter of course
shut junco
Clearly
radiant flame
if you run buckshot...
stray pumice
Hey im a returner, trying to catch up with honing. I have mats but no gold. What should i do?
radiant flame
you shouldn't need gold until 1370
stray pumice
Im 1415
stray pumice
Hmm
stray pumice
Alright nothing else?
shut junco
Also do what I said
stray pumice
Ah yes forgot una
shut junco
Also keep an eye out for gold islands. 700 gold every few days
sturdy mesa
damn my paladin cant even place in these pvp islands, just ended deaths hold with 70 points all from assists
flat dagger
Skill issue.
sturdy mesa
yea i figured
flat dagger
I see lots of paladins slap everyone's ass.
sturdy mesa
eh my bard does poorly on them too. its a skill thing
radiant flame
i have won deaths hold with my chaos dungeon build on bard
sturdy mesa
and pally has holy explosion and the other one for aoe
radiant flame
just oratorio like 8 people and you win
sturdy mesa
i forget the name of the other one....
radiant flame
i dont pvp
sturdy mesa
but either way it was me vs like some ice and fire sorceress thing, and like 3 shadow hunters
i got hella wrecked 😂
echo owl
i mean pvp events in general is somewhat rng
sturdy mesa
i dont pvp
i don't pvp either, but its not out of lack of interest. i know im not tryna spend money on the game, and getting wrecked like i do in pvp matches just frustrates me into trying to buy in
echo owl
get final blow and tag people
tired harbor
how do u get cool merchants to visit your stronghold? mine is like level 45 but i haven't gotten any special merchants ONCE it's just rami and other boring ones
sturdy mesa
get final blow and tag people
true, but its hard to get final blow when they got the attack speed of a helicopter, and its all stun
😂
tired harbor
Reputation and adventurer's tome
oh god i had no idea thanks
shut junco
oh god i had no idea thanks
There's one in rohendel and one in yorn, I don't remember what the other reputation ones are though
sturdy mesa
my paladins been messed up for a while now. thats why i been on here every step of the way for the bard. yall been a big help 😄 my bard sucks too but... thats more of a personal issue
shut junco
Repairing the seal site and umar cosmetics' new history
sturdy mesa
ooh, uhh... my guildies are saying i shoulda gone expert. i went vph (for the bard) because people here told me vph was better. ... im running swift on bard. which decision was more correct?
radiant flame
er, expert is more core than vph for sure
shut junco
You run both though, right?
sturdy mesa
ah dang.... there goes those pheons 😂
shut junco
expert, ds, ha, vph and awakening
lavish groveBOT
sturdy mesa
no i have HA, AWA, DS as x3 and vph is really close
i have literally no points in expert.
vast oriole
Expert is 4
flat dagger
I run DS, Awakening, Expert, Heavy Armor and Drops of Ether.
radiant flame
i think vph is better than drops, but that's a different discussion
sturdy mesa
oof... damn, even coming on here i still f-ed up 😂 oh well... looks like ill be swiping my cc on friday 😂
shut junco
Solo stagger clown, ez
radiant flame
vph and expert fulfil 2 completely different functions
flat dagger
Once Ancient Hits, I'll be running Heavy Armor as Lv. 1/2 and put in VPH instead.
radiant flame
you know we have a bard guide right
sturdy mesa
ohhhh the team support bit.. yea my bad.
lavish groveBOT
flat dagger
That's why I'm changing Heavy armor to VPH once Ancient Accessories come out
shut junco
lmao
sturdy mesa
ive trusted team after team to stagger, and about ehhhh maybe 70 % of the time, they let me down
shut junco
Then go for vph as your fifth
sturdy mesa
does bard NEED HA? like i know bard squishy... but... maybe DS, Expert, AWA, and VPH?
and to compound that question.... does AWA really mean that much? i almost never cap out my awakening skill
flat dagger
HA is very very good on bard
It is, due to 90% defence, but shields are MASSIVE too.
radiant flame
in a lot of later raids, the support dying is death for the raid
and normal patterns hurt a lot
echo owl
good to have
sturdy mesa
It is, due to 90% defence, but shields are MASSIVE too.
thats fair. i have been a lot more supporty since i put in on HA
radiant flame
i think on bard, there is no reason to not have HA
shut junco
You don't need to use all of your awakenings in every raid for awakening to be good
radiant flame
you don't need both DoE and VPH. so you can easily use HA
shut junco
The cd alone
sturdy mesa
alright alright 🙂 , im gonna have to figure out how to swap out to expert. should be too hard. probably only cost me like 30 pheons
flat dagger
alright alright 🙂 , im gonna have to figure out how to swap out to expert. shou...
Don't bother unless you are 3x3.
sturdy mesa
Don't bother unless you are 3x3.
my bard is 3x3. and to top off, its ONE point from 4x3.
flat dagger
Use this, plan better.
https://loa-todo.com/engrave
sturdy mesa
i believe (not on bard rn) that point is vph
shut junco
I just have accessories that set up a 5x3, then I'm using double ds to get to a 4x3 without needing to use vph books
sturdy mesa
what... the ..hell is that
echo warren
Use drops
sturdy mesa
😂
shut junco
It lets you plan out accessories
echo warren
More dps > stagger
shut junco
It's great
echo owl
dps is useless if you fail a stagger mech then everyone dies lol!
radiant flame
More dps > stagger
this guy again, who hasn't even done clown/brel
echo warren
You wont fail though
sturdy mesa
uhh i don't really need that, i just multi window the character profile engravings, and auction house.
echo owl
ya what if I don’t hit the boss huh
sturdy mesa
i can do basic math
echo owl
kinda crazy….
dull trench
i can do basic math
Then you wouldn't be missing a point to 4x3 
flat dagger
i can do basic math
And you can calculate the cost of every combination on the fly too I guess.
This shit matters.
sturdy mesa
Then you wouldn't be missing a point to 4x3 <:KEKW:834726120606924850>
garbage roll on stone, accessories were only available that inverted the point necessity
echo warren
And thats the pheons
dull trench
Well he just got 100 free pheons
flat dagger
Mostly yea, unless you buy future 3/5 accessories.
sturdy mesa
Well he just got 100 free pheons
literally used THOSE pheons, to get THIS far 😄
echo warren
Dont but leg accs if you can
dull trench
You can buy 5x3 and 3x3 still for future proof and have 4x3
dull trench
literally used THOSE pheons, to get THIS far 😄
Well then you didn't do it correctly
sturdy mesa
Well then you didn't do it correctly
well obviously. i figured that out when i didn't listen to my guildies and went vph on somebodies advice here, now i need expert and ima need to buy new gear anyway. i already know i didnt do it correctly. im simply trying to get the correct information.
dull trench
As kata said use the webpage, and plan out ahead
sturdy mesa
have been. guides said vph too
flat dagger
Instead of expert?
sturdy mesa
they said both, but not with any specific priority
so i came here, was suggested vph, went vph
lavish groveBOT
flat dagger
You're right, but they are listed as mandatory.
maiden locust
why would you as sup run anything else over expert.. increases flat shield and heal
dull trench
Are we talking paladin or bard here?
sturdy mesa
im referring to my bard. pally is my main
radiant flame
they said both, but not with any specific priority
that's a reasonably clear priority
echo warren
Wheres the rest
flat dagger
Above.
echo owl
i mean awake and class should be obvious
sturdy mesa
alright, well you got me there, i guess i missed that on the community page.
max rolls page was a little more in depth so i was using that for a bit, and then bouncing between them. so thats my bad.
flat dagger
Is stagger effectiveness additive or multiplicitive?
radiant flame
i don't think it matters so much given there aren't a huge number of different stagger multipliers
the game's stagger is hugely inconsistent at best anyway
dull trench
Maxroll is great for guides don't get me wrong, but for class specific please refer to the community guides
echo owl
shout outs to sound shock stagger
radiant flame
sound shock is one of bard's best staggers and it doesn't even register on the game
flat dagger
Care to elaborate?
radiant flame
Care to elaborate?
on soundshock?
sturdy mesa
Maxroll is great for guides don't get me wrong, but for class specific please re...
i agree. seeing as this bit of information was hiding in it 😅 . but thats why i come here. so i can feel dumb and get better
flat dagger
The registering part.
echo warren
Not listed as stagger high on skill page
radiant flame
it isn't on the tooltip
echo owl
uh it just doesn’t have any stagger tooltip modifier
radiant flame
it's not even "low"
it's just nothing
but the stagger is pretty significant with the double cast thing
echo warren
Thats why I doubted you before
flat dagger
Alright, I thought it didn't work or something.
echo owl
largely to believe that tooltip exists to be like a multiplier of some sort but sound shock hits so fucking much
sturdy mesa
sound shock is one of bard's best staggers and it doesn't even register on the g...
question.... and i know youre gonna rip me a new one for it, its fine.... but..... buckshot doesnt stagger>
dull trench
i agree. seeing as this bit of information was hiding in it 😅 . but thats why i...
No worries, just double check next time you do anything, as a new player a mistake can sit you back weeks or months
radiant flame
question.... and i know youre gonna rip me a new one for it, its fine.... but......
buckshot does
flat dagger
To be fair, the basic skill without specific tripods, doesn't really stagger.
echo owl
any skill that hits does some amount of stagger
radiant flame
just not a lot
sturdy mesa
buckshot does
ah its been my only counter source for like a week now. sound shock barely ever even hits
dull trench
Uncommon card packs from stronghold merch worth buying?
flat dagger
ah its been my only counter source for like a week now. sound shock barely ever ...
Prelude of Storm???
I am very confused.
echo owl
you should probably be aware of your stagger combo rotation anyways
maiden locust
Uncommon card packs from stronghold merch worth buying?
if theres nothing left, else no. At that point you prolly dont need them anymore anyway
sturdy mesa
storm hits, but doesnt seem to counter for me. tried on whats that green and black guardians name
radiant flame
storm hits, but doesnt seem to counter for me. tried on whats that green and bla...
you must be missing the timing
echo warren
You need to pre cast
flat dagger
Then you're too far away or poor timing.
radiant flame
storm is not a good counter
sturdy mesa
maybe
dusk veldt
Prelude is one of best meter gen skills tho right?
so i usually dont have it available for spontaneous counters
radiant flame
buckshot is a very good counter
echo warren
Buckshot is the insta cast
echo owl
yes
echo warren
It does feel nice on valtan though
flat dagger
I don't even use it for Valtan.
radiant flame
most counters in the game are telegraphed
echo owl
i mean
radiant flame
*important counters
echo owl
unless your soloing valtan it would matter
radiant flame
so you just pre-cast storm
echo owl
major counter mechs you should have storm up anyways from downtime
flat dagger
1785 swiftness + gems make the CD real short.
sturdy mesa
i cant even run valtan outside of my guild ... who holds my hand through it cuz i still cant grasp the mechs.... (although im getting better its only been one or two tries without a bus) so idk how it works on valtan
radiant flame
i think the only counter i have genuine trouble with is clown g2's screwy timings/hitbox
flat dagger
He likes to turn too...
echo warren
i cant even run valtan outside of my guild ... who holds my hand through it cuz ...
Learn it
echo owl
the fear dash has a tell when he’s gonna start it
except when it turns cause the initial aggro player did the funny
echo warren
Just read a guide
flat dagger
except when it turns cause the initial aggro player did the funny
Which is often.
echo warren
And then you will understand mechs as they happen
sturdy mesa
Just read a guide
i dont learn that way
echo warren
Then you will struggle to learn at all in lost ark
sturdy mesa
i can read and read and read all week\month\year long. it means nothing
sturdy mesa
Then you will struggle to learn at all in lost ark
yea... thats kinda why im here bro keep up
radiant flame
but genuinely, what do you not udnerstand in valtan?
there aren't that many mechs...
echo warren
Mainly its just hit it, counter, dont die
flat dagger
Does it matter if you tell him? He has to read the answer here.
radiant flame
don't want my support bro to give up before brel
echo warren
Valtan wolves suck though
dull trench
sturdy mesa
for a while i just wasnt comfortable doing a boss without knowing the boss. because i know how some of yall get when new guys join the matchmaking, and we dont know whats going on, and accidentily trigger a wipe mech. so i got bussed. then a couple weeks ago i joined a guild. they told me stop bussing they'll teach me, and they have so far. but that 3rd gate killed me right off the rip on the last run, so i intend on going over it again with my guild next week
flat dagger
Learning party, if you join anything else then people will get upset at 50x wipes.
radiant flame
3rd gate?
flat dagger
Guild runs are good though.
echo warren
What I do for vykas hm is
sturdy mesa
sorry 2nd gate
echo warren
Write what x bar the mech happens at on a post it note
sturdy mesa
hit the wrong key my bad
echo warren
So I can look at it and know exactly whats happening
flat dagger
Write what x bar the mech happens at on a post it note
There's the cheat sheets for raids too, you can look at the x HP thresholds.
Maxroll has decent ones for that.
echo warren
Its how I did my first vykas completion
You think im doing vykas g3 first time off memory? XD
flat dagger
I've been doing that myself, then after 2-3 runs I don't use it anymore.
echo warren
Yep
sturdy mesa
but i've done videos, i've read up, i've done more videos and I've read some more... that just isn't how i learn. so... i'll get there. just a little more slowly
flat dagger
At first, that's all you can do 
sturdy mesa
well my bard JUST got there. so hopefully that does change
rose jewel
yeah but most of us played the things week 1
dusk veldt
I did valtan 12x this week 😆
rose jewel
everyone was learning so it was slow and we HAD TO LEARN
rose jewel
coz he can
sturdy mesa
I did valtan 12x this week 😆
jeez bro.. 😂
echo warren
Thats true though
dusk veldt
Valtan is hella fun
frosty sundial
how do i get out of here? lol
echo warren
I wish I could valtan a few times but only get rewards once
dusk veldt
even more so when the group isnt ultra overgeared tbh
rose jewel
song of escape
sturdy mesa
how do i get out of here? lol
song of es
frosty sundial
ohh ty
sturdy mesa
nvmd he beat me
frosty sundial
u think they would tell u that lol
dusk veldt
how do i get out of here? lol
Ayo what is that name
rose jewel
at some point they do
frosty sundial
i thought i had to find a beam or sum
sturdy mesa
they do after 30 seconds or so
rose jewel
i think
frosty sundial
Ayo what is that name <:KEKW:834726120606924850>
u know just a name lmao
sturdy mesa
ey, idk if its just me, or if this chat feels a bit toxic for me right now. ima f off, for now. thank you all for your help. im probably just tired.
thin token
is it best to use boss rush tickets on new char from lvl 59-60 and will make that level grind faster? Or is it no difference?
rose jewel
it makes a difference yes
echo warren
This chat is nothing compared to when you accidentally make a mistake in a raid XD
sturdy mesa
we choose violence today
i choose violence every day lol 😂 nah i really just think im tired. im starting to take certain things personally.
rose jewel
you're ugly go sleep
sturdy mesa
night party people. ill bother yall later
dull trench
@rose jewelyou should probably get some sleep, dayum why you always here
rose jewel
because my work schedule fucked my sleep times since years ago
im also transfering my data to my new phone
dull trench
I undesstand your job fucked your sleep schedule, but you dont seem to be trying to fix it either xD
rose jewel
in half an hour im gonna be sleepy and automatically faint
and that has been since 7 years ago
tomorrow i sleep at like 12am or 1
then i sleep at like 8-9pm so i wake up at 5am next day
rose jewel
it doesnt
that's why im fucking sleepy and tired all day long
but at least im alive i guess
wanted to clear my clowns this week
no energy
i'll try tomorrow
also i couldnt really sleep coz my neighbours didnt let me, music all night until like 9am and i had to work both sat and sun
dull trench
quit your job, go live in a forest
echo warren
also i couldnt really sleep coz my neighbours didnt let me, music all night unti...
Tell them to shut up
rose jewel
i have a park with good tall trees 6 streets from here, does that count
echo warren
Or noise complaint
dull trench
i have a park with good tall trees 6 streets from here, does that count
every american city has parks with trees, no it doesnt count lol
rose jewel
it was just enough loudness for the cops to not be able to do anything, but they are literally next to me
but im not american
echo warren
Should start blasting your own
dull trench
but im not american
and there is the problem
flat dagger
echo warren
The mods have been called
rose jewel
if a question is asked it takes priority
dull trench
actually this chat is borderlands
flat dagger
<@243453080279056385>just mad you have nobody to talk to
I always have myself 
echo warren
How long until lost ark dies
rose jewel
you can say the same about life
flat dagger
Until it's on Ayaya at least...
echo warren
Did you know suggestive ayaya picks will get you banned here XD
rose jewel
its gonna be a whole barrel custome to censor
costume
uhh
how you
i cant english
yeah costume
dull trench
echo warren
I want to lvl my gs 1-50 but I dont want to spend money if the hair is good
dull trench
well I just put my Hawkeye to delete yesterday
7 hours remaining then I can make a new class
rose jewel
your what, is that a new class
shut junco
It's +16 with one piece for 1500 right?
rose jewel
context?
flat dagger
Probably full +20 and +16 new piece.
rose jewel
i think so
flat dagger
(1490 x 5 + 1550) / 6, what do you get? @shut junco
shut junco
?
flat dagger
Do the math.
shut junco
Ah, good then
flat dagger
And any item hone increase, you can divide by 6 to see the actual item level increase.
dull trench
why am i doing island tokens, why do I hate my life so muchg
shut junco
turtle captain
flat dagger
https://tenor.com/view/what-do-they-mean-random-numbers-gif-10654449
4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42
If someone gets that reference.
dull trench
lost?
rose jewel
number of pokemon in the pokedex?
shut junco
Honing odds are still pain
dull trench
see I was right
i knew I saw them
they are the numbers in the cave in LOST
amazing series
bullshit ending
flat dagger
why am i doing island tokens, why do I hate my life so muchg
I'm right there with you...
pine agate
how much ghs does 1 kunga soul give and how much mhls does 1 cali soul give?
shut junco
Bruh give me your masterpieces
echo warren
how much ghs does 1 kunga soul give and how much mhls does 1 cali soul give?
Kung more gold
shut junco
I'm one card off lwc 12 and need the legendary card pack
rose jewel
iirc it was between 7-8 for kunga leaps, cali is 4-5? i think
pine agate
thx
flat dagger
You're correct.
rose jewel
k that was the last of my brain power for today
shut junco
Not that lwc 12 is relevant to me for the rest of the week but still
rose jewel
i'll just wait for this thing to DL and i'll call it
shut junco
Later
dull trench
cya signum take care
rose jewel
will try
shut junco
No, no, take carte
rose jewel
who's carte
shut junco
It's like french or something
dull trench
It's weird how in-game I see a thousand berserkers one more geared than the other
Yet in this chat not a single one has appeared
shut junco
Zerkers aren't real, they're just a figment of your imagination
dull trench
Yeah, sadly they arent
Their big bulky muscles live in my head rent free
I'm being gatekeept by a 5 year old called Nia
Telling me to get charisma and wisdom
flat dagger
She runs a whole colony, what about you?
dull trench
I run a roster of 6 low ilvl dailys
flat dagger
I just found a bug 🤨
While at 0/18 Skill Tree Level Activation, picking a replacing tripod level that's 2 or higher, you "lose" your 18th activation until you press Lv. 1 again on the original skill perk or save the build.
sick relic
How do you get this from Lullaby Island?
snow wadi
RNG from the event
sick relic
is it low chance?
flat dagger
Yes.
timber mauve
Very, very, very low
frigid flare
When should i corro Valtan?
timber mauve
When should i corro Valtan?
When he start charging up before he runs.
frigid flare
When he start charging up before he runs.
Only once?
flat dagger
1st and 3rd charge.
frigid flare
K, ty guys
frosty sundial
"V" skills are ur awakening skills right?
flat dagger
Yep.
frosty sundial
ty
oblique coral
hello guys returning player, do i only do island quests with main ?
flat dagger
If the rewards are roster bound, it doesn't matter in any way. If they are bound to character, then do it only on the character that needs the rewards.
oblique coral
is there some website to check the rewards and whether roster bound ?
flat dagger
Just check the quest?
oblique coral
ok
plain cradle
what does it mean when a party puts homework in the title
flat dagger
Nothing.
plain cradle
oh lmao
thin token
what does it mean when a party puts homework in the title
most of the time it means its a party where everyone should know what to do and are trying to finish quick
flat dagger
The only possible thing you might get from it, is that it's so easy for you to do on a regular basis, just like homework.
snow wadi
what causes current gold inflation? people can't hone enough?
or are engravings just getting more expensive because toads been gone for weeks now?
hallow relic
what causes current gold inflation? people can't hone enough?
yep, not enough gold getting removed and bots/humans generating too much gold
toad was a gold sink but now since its gone, some shets gotta go up
tulip prawn
I have an issue with the mass preset, it doesn't save a diff build when I only change the engraving and neck
flat dagger
You have the different equipment in a 2nd preset?
tulip prawn
Ah, that was it, it looks like I was trying to change it, but didn't use 2nd preset
No wonder it didn't work, thanks
flat dagger
dusk veldt
Anyone know what this comes from?
flat dagger
Adrenaline.
dusk veldt
thx
cloud pendant
Is Carl worth doing? Or turtle still better after conversion?
buoyant herald
if you are doing it for leapstones its dumb af XD
but if you are doing it for money turtle is like 100g more per kill so 200g more per char 
rustic oyster
Anyone know what this comes from?
@flat dagger isn't that the icon/buff from pet set to crit?
Adrenaline has a yellow icon
snow wadi
Why is that turret sometimes not throwing any fire in kakul g3?
hallow relic
u got a gl in the group?
rustic oyster
Why is that turret sometimes not throwing any fire in kakul g3?
It stops spitting firely briefly here and there
snow wadi
Na it's not spitting fire AT ALL
rustic oyster
oh
hallow relic
u hitting the thing at all?
dusk veldt
Na it's not spitting fire AT ALL
you have anyone with a taunt in your group?
snow wadi
destroyer taunt fucks it up?
rustic oyster
oh no way, didn't know that
hallow relic
tell ur destroyer to stop being dumb
flat dagger
<@243453080279056385> isn't that the icon/buff from pet set to crit?
No.
Enhancement I / II / III is from Adrenaline.
ebon aspen
Anyone know what this comes from?
your pet
flat dagger
Again, NO.
shut junco
I thought pet could only give defensive options
rustic oyster
there's offensive too
shut junco
Wait really?
buoyant herald
shut junco
Hold up
flat dagger
The egg has only defensive.
buoyant herald
yeah cuz its just rare you can upgrade it to epic and it will have that too
median drift
Is it best to save chaos stones until you can use them on brelshaza gear?
flat dagger
The quality carries over.
median drift
The quality carries over.
Thanks
flat dagger
@median drift When you transfer honing levels, whichever piece has the highest quality, will be what you end up with (Only applies to upper relic gear).
80 -> 40 = 80
40 -> 80 = 80
median drift
<@114700033944846341> When you transfer honing levels, whichever piece has the h...
Thank you
buoyant herald
upper relic and forever till the end of hopefully times
flat dagger
Imagine if you lose it 👀
buoyant herald
i mean even if you do its only after akkan gear
thats at least another few years for us
no need to worry
🙃
shut junco
Akkan gear is just ancient right?
agile compass
Is this the wrong stats for classes who'd use these engravings? <:NotLikeMokoko:...
those 2 engravings don't even go together
flat dagger
Well, that explains it then 😄
flat dagger
Master Brawler isn't used on Berserker?
shut junco
no brel hard gear is ancient
I thought brel hard only gave ancient accessories
flat dagger
Just Gunlancer and Destroyer?
jagged meadow
I'm 4x3+1 pm/gr/kbw/hm + adr, lvl 5 gems, should I get 5x3 or lvl 7 gems first?
shut junco
Level 7 would be my recommendation
flat dagger
Gems are way cheaper and a better upgrade.
That said, you can get gems for free unlike engravings.
jagged meadow
tyty
buoyant herald
I thought brel hard only gave ancient accessories
well you thought wrong 😛
buoyant herald
if you alr got the sp from island souls they arent all that important
unless you are talking about the tier 1 and 2 ones that give you mats then just do the ones that drop whatever you need
blazing badger
click on this and then type in Skill Point Potion, and look through which feature on islands, as a rough indicator
wintry coral
Do you guys think ppl would take a 3x3 support for legion raids
buoyant herald
yes
wintry coral
Like could i leave my alts at 3x3 and be safe
buoyant herald
instantly
frosty sundial
Do u only ppl with on ur server or can u play with other ppl from diff regions & servers?
wintry coral
Thats good
buoyant herald
tho if you are alr buying accs just get 4x3 its like 20k max
buoyant herald
Do u only ppl with on ur server or can u play with other ppl from diff regions &...
can raid with everyone on the same region
frosty sundial
Thats it? Everything else is server base?
buoyant herald
Thats it? Everything else is server base?
everything open world is server based
wintry coral
But still lvling them up
frosty sundial
Oh ok ty
wintry coral
Good to know ppl woulnt judge
I only play this game for support
I dont like dps
So support only 😍
Hahah
I got 5 palas
Blessed 12
Awaken not yet
But soon
I am not caught up yet
I switched from na to euc
I was playing na with friends then vpn ban happend
And was forced to quit
Now started again
On euc cuz i am from eu
buoyant herald
you dont need vpn to play on na tho
buoyant herald
if you can play on eu you can play on na
wintry coral
<:Susge:928653583652646973> if you can play on eu you can play on na
I couldnt play at all without a vpn
Cuz the game wasnt released in the netherlands at first
And like i said i went na cuz of friends
glossy lintel
just makin sure, there is no platinum tier for 1490 cube dispatch right?
simple flicker
when can u sidereal purple vykas boss g1
sullen lark
Is there a way to grind madnick and mokamoka cards specifically?
buoyant herald
yeah snipe the merchants that spawn with them
dull trench
wich stone cutting calculator do you guys use?
sullen lark
Oh OK awesome. Thanks so much!
buoyant herald
wich stone cutting calculator do you guys use?
they are all the same the maths is really simple
shut junco
Could have been an 8/9
dull trench
i just needed a 7/6
buoyant herald
Could have been an 8/9
could have been a 10 10 0 
shut junco
Did you buy accessories before cutting the stone?
dull trench
yep yep yep
flat dagger
yep yep yep
Terrible idea.
shut junco
Does that even stack with other expose weakness effects...?
shut junco
Stone, then class accessory, then the rest
shut junco
But do you have the pheons?
dull trench
i have 60 pheons left
timber mauve
its ok still have 25k gold to burn on stones
I went 45+ rocks deep without a 7/7 at 1.5k gold each rock.
Best of luck
shut junco
Rip
dull trench
ye cheapest stone i can get is 2.3k
flat dagger
Poor stone choice then.
dull trench
well i chose depending on my book engravings
flat dagger
You have +12 books?
dull trench
since I didnt have KBW at +9 and it cost 4k for all the books
flat dagger
Would have been much cheaper to buy the books.
dull trench
not main
well kinda
i dont know
xD
1420
my other one is 1430
then i have a 1400
i just havent decided what I want
timber mauve
Wait, you don’t have a single character at 1460 for the honing buff? 
dull trench
im in no rush
flat dagger
You are wasting so much not having the honing buff
timber mauve
shards are the problem
The buff lowers shard cost
This is actually just masochism. No cap. No joke. Idk anymore. Do whatever you want man.
radiant flame
yes, it actually works for the entire raid. this is one of the best (support) affixes in the game
the not stacking only applies to other expose weakness affixes on bracelets
dull trench
yeah like the lower buffs i have them no idea about the 1460 one, but as mentioned im not honing anymore apart from one so, ill push her to 1460 frist
thats the problem "Main" lol
but ill just push the Hyper express character for now
shut junco
the not stacking only applies to other expose weakness affixes on bracelets
Oh that's hype. I was assuming it didn't stack with something like spiral tracker's expose weakness
radiant flame
nope
shut junco
Nice
Are there any other affixes that I need to be on the lookout for when I get my bard up to 1490?
vernal coyote
Where can I get recipe for more single chair in strong hold?
radiant flame
Are there any other affixes that I need to be on the lookout for when I get my b...
dagger is the other raid wide buff
which is a flat damage buff
well, it's technically a defence down buff
rain meadow
cheer is alright
radiant flame
yes i mean, good luck getting that
shut junco
True, I'm essentially hoping for 2/4 there lol
radiant flame
i think getting just one of expose/dagger is fine tbh
because the other supp might have the other
then there's other nice ones like the specialty meter gain one
shut junco
I see
tepid hull
In Brel G4, do the black orbs deal dark damage so that LoS dark damage reduction works on them?
radiant flame
In Brel G4, do the black orbs deal dark damage so that LoS dark damage reduction...
i'm not sure how this is relevant at all. but even if it does work, you shouldn't tank the orbs. they still hurt from my experience
you should be using los12 on g4 regardless if you have it
failing that, lwc12
failing that hp set
flat dagger
Could you convert +18 weapons into Brelshaza ones?
radiant flame
1475 is +19
shut junco
I am also curious, as I'm probably not going to level my bard's weapon to 20
gusty echo
what do i do with this?
rain meadow
cold storage, or delete it, or wear it
if yoz's jar ever comes to our version in some form, it can be dismantled into cloth which is used for rolling the jar
desert nebula
Does that mean its available for a new char or do i have to do the quest manually (knowledge transfer)
rain meadow
or rather, it should be able to be dismantled, as far as im aware
you can knowledge transfer another character, yes
teal pike
i am 1462 ilvl and is it better to just keep going with the item level or to go 5x3
teal pike
okay ty
hallow isle
I'm in North Vern doing story and been using a lot of engravings, will I be okay if I want to switch class after I get KT? I have no idea how much longer that will be. In my bank I have 38 uncommon engraving boxes and a few blue ones too. The engravings I started leveling already were Sorc Reflux, Grudge, Adrenaline, and Keen Blunt Weapon. Grudge is the most leveled.
snow wadi
First Page engravings are shared among all classes
shut junco
I'm in North Vern doing story and been using a lot of engravings, will I be okay...
As soon as you finish the north vern story you get a north vern powerpass
hallow isle
Oh really? So I can switch right after that? Hmm maybe I should skip side quests until I switch chars then
shut junco
Yeah
rain meadow
flat dagger
+30 item levels 
rain meadow
is it tho
hallow isle
Oh one more thing if I've accepted purple quests on one char and I switch but want those on the other can I do that? Maybe if I abandon them?
I have some where I haven't gotten the requirements yet so they are just sitting in journal
gusty echo
You'll have a hard time getting into clown without it
oh man.. where can 4x3 bring you to?
flat dagger
Even clearing the first two gates in Brelshaza.
Gatekeeping will keep you from even doing HM Vykas though.
gusty echo
i mean u can do 4x3 till when where ppl will gatekeep all 4x3 dps?