#lost-ark-help

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crisp turtle
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don't recraft for quality

rose jewel
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never recraft

simple knoll
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when i needed 20 DS i stopped buy skin, now that i rebuild my main and main alt i dont have a fucking idea what to use it

maybe maybe ill just try to push ilvl with gold

anyway what the next ilvl i should aim (for the april patch i mean)

rose jewel
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1560 g5-6

hallow relic
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or just build 4x3+2 with ds as 2

wary lintel
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what's good for chaos on supports? preemptive and?

hallow relic
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u dont even need ds 3 or 5x3

simple knoll
maiden locust
wary lintel
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i mean engravings only

rose jewel
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raid captain also good

fervent harness
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is relic gear required to get into a lobby on valtan hard mode

rose jewel
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not really

hallow relic
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no but ppl hate u

crisp turtle
radiant flame
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I mean, no? Since you can’t craft it without Valtan stuff …

fervent harness
radiant flame
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But some people can gatekeep if they want some super fast run I guess

simple knoll
rose jewel
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required: no
people want people with full relic for faster runs: yes

wary lintel
radiant flame
simple knoll
radiant flame
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Yes but that is gatekeeping for you

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Then people don’t even know how to get balthorr up pre jump so you wipe because DPS too high

inner valve
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whats the best server to play in europe?

radiant flame
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Anything on EUC

rose jewel
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!region

midnight flaxBOT
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Cross Server (Region wide)
Raids, Dungeons, Cube, Plat Fields, Auction house, Character name, Friends List, Strongholds, Boss Rush, PVP arenas

Server Specific
Guilds, Islands, Open world, GvG, Life skills (professions), Unranked Arena Premades (queue as party, this is cross server in KR)

Nothing is Cross Region

rose jewel
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server matters for very specific things, good stuff is region wide, unless you care a lot for pvp or gvg

pseudo plover
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hey

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my cursor suddenly changed from the usual shape and form to a crosshair type one

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and i cant close tabs with it like my inv for an example

rose jewel
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Ctrl+wheel mouse

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oh wait

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not what you asked

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uhhh

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i guess its yet another bug

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you gotta either switch map, relog your char or reopen the game

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game has been buggy af lately

pseudo plover
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oh okay ty

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thought that u just pressed on smth and it changed

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i*

rose jewel
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if you cant click on things its a bug for sure

pseudo plover
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yeah changing the map helped ty

inner valve
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doesnt have artist on europe servers?

rose jewel
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eu/na/sa are the same, april she arrive

fiery zinc
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how do we get more phoenix plumes beside login rewards

rose jewel
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some events, stronghold merchants

inner valve
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oh ok

hollow cosmos
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Guys i have problem 😄 i used 499 years old Mera wine before times expire, its possible to recive again this item ?

floral barn
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If it says tradable you can

silver rain
hollow cosmos
fiery zinc
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is it a quest item?

silver rain
hollow cosmos
floral barn
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It will say it on the bag. "Items from this bag are not tradable"

olive galleon
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what is the max of card storage ?

hollow cosmos
silver rain
# hollow cosmos i will try

most stuff you picked up from the ground are mostly unlimited (adv. tome related anyway) you can just keep picking it up but using more than 1 doesnt give you anything extra so. can pick up extra to avoid fucking up and having to come back to get a new one tho

rigid plank
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I think the max of the card storage is 500 if you buy all of it

radiant flame
shadow wren
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On G4 Brel during the yellow gimick sometimes I noticed the stagger check would end WAY earlier and wipe us. Anyone know why that is?

rose jewel
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you gotta break the things fast and stagger asap

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if you take your sweet time breaking the things and intercepting the orb, well

gentle kestrel
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anyone know why im being gatekept out of valtan hard on my reaper?

shadow wren
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I mean even when we would do it instantly occasionally we had pulls where it went off way earlier than other VoDs (we even watched them back to check)

queen ledge
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is it even possible to start lost ark anew on euc, i kinda can't find any buses for guardian raids tier 5

buoyant herald
maiden locust
radiant flame
maiden locust
radiant flame
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Either your side or the other side

gentle kestrel
radiant flame
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Both of you have to execute your orb destruction accurate

shadow wren
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But we are measuring from stagger start to it blowing up.

wary lintel
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where was the list with guardian hp? i want to solo the t1 ones with bard kek

rose jewel
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welcome to gate ark

gentle kestrel
shadow wren
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Regardless of us being slow that should be the same?

maiden locust
minor crown
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maybe they're with friends or guild

radiant flame
shadow wren
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Even if we did nothing the thing should take the same amount of time to blow up after the stagger check

gentle kestrel
shadow wren
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Yeah we cleared it fine, but sometimes that would happen

buoyant herald
wary lintel
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@rose jewel do u have by any change the list with guardian hp prayge

maiden locust
rose jewel
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reddit does

gentle kestrel
wary lintel
buoyant herald
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just make your own group and take plebs like you RinShrug

rigid plank
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A tip to get yellow mech done better in g3 is to have the people outside of the golden domes stagger as well with whirl and ranged stagger

gentle kestrel
rose jewel
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yes it is

rose jewel
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community bias

buoyant herald
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ofc it is i cant get into any groups as 1517 5x3 RinShrug

gentle kestrel
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i play floorslinger and get into parties with the same gear

maiden locust
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and how is your reaper only lvl 50

rose jewel
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freshly made hyper mass honed

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ez

gentle kestrel
buoyant herald
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yeah mine was 1490 lvl 50 RinShrug

gentle kestrel
maiden locust
rose jewel
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well duh 😄

gentle kestrel
snow cedar
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anyone with blue or green wealth runes in their stronghold? will pay 1000 g

rose jewel
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ask in your region chat

snow cedar
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thanks, mb

blazing badger
regal swallow
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medeia weekly rewards are same for 1460 character as they are a 1520 one correct?

maiden locust
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its based on highest ilvl onf your roster

inner valve
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where i can see when come the new classes?

rose jewel
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roadmaps

brave rapids
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On Maxroll, is there a way to set it so it's showing the rates as if I used the new books every time, but not solars?

elder jewel
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Is there anyone pass gate 6 brelshaze who well know mech the black hole mech?
I just prob 113xhp, im out side team, i get 2 golden orb and wait the dark ball glow, im go in to it, then it suck me in, later im back from ball i still dead. I dont know why. Is that the timing in to my ball a bit soon?

brave rapids
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@elder jewel https://youtu.be/Esh1DOzoeWE?t=588 @ 9:48, notice the shaking and the slight expanding

coral umbra
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after eac offline, got back in but I have this bug anyone seen this? can kill mobs but can't interact with anything

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can't do anything besides killing monsters, can't switch chars, can't even close game, had to kill it

rose jewel
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repair eac, restart pc

round dove
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why are these not getting dismantled ?

sly depot
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How hard is hell acathes ? Relative to legion hell modes

maiden locust
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its the same fight just more hp

sly depot
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What about damage he does

maiden locust
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not that much

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with sup its easy

solemn trail
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are adventure island rewards once per day

maiden locust
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yes unless its saterday or sunday then its 2 times

slow cradle
hushed spruce
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was in a group about to start brel and got the same thing now

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verified already and rebooted still nothing currently

slow cradle
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Verified archieves, pc restarted and modem restarted

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xD

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Still the same

hushed spruce
slow cradle
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The game wants me stuck in g2 with my summoner

rose jewel
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any of you use vpn

hushed spruce
slow cradle
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No

rose jewel
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any of you have your twitch/amazon accounts linked for drops

slow cradle
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yes

rose jewel
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unlink it, restart pc, restart modem again and try

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also unlink the account from the amazon lost ark site

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you can relink after if it works, it usually works

slow cradle
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wtf

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Why twitch don't load

rose jewel
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its a twitch thing then, probably

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and since your accounts are linked, it probably causes some stupid shennanigans on lost ark

slow cradle
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And the Lost Ark site

rose jewel
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or

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your isp is being stupid and its blocking sites at random

slow cradle
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Amazon hacked?

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xd

slow cradle
hushed spruce
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what ya do?

rose jewel
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probably nothing

slow cradle
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I can enter in twitch now

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So i think is fixed xD

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Let me start the game

rose jewel
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guess twitch was down, and since the game is weirdly linked from twitch, amazon and lost ark, it goes down as well

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but lets see first

true seal
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should i be buying all raid chests on alts im pushing to 1490 or just last chest? all only have about half the amount of ghl needed for average

slow cradle
rose jewel
slow cradle
rose jewel
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you just said you had it linked

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so

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guess its your isp then

hushed spruce
slow cradle
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I get the twitch drops instant

rose jewel
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shrugs

hushed spruce
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now that im finally logged in again lets go dc during some brel

hushed spruce
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you still cant log?

slow cradle
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yeah

slow cradle
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Your anti cheat take long time to charge?

rose jewel
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everyone's

hushed spruce
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doesnt it always these days?

slow cradle
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And 30s or less the Lost Ark Logo

slow cradle
rose jewel
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unlink everything related to the game and amazon

slow cradle
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Let me restart the pc and the modem

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Done

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Nice

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Now work

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Nice i don't lose the ticket

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Forget it

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Now with this it is 48 hours of waiting

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For the stupid ticket

true seal
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should i be buying all raid chests on alts im pushing to 1490 or just last chest? all only have about half the amount of ghl needed for average and alts are either 5x3 or 4x3+2

hushed spruce
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@slow cradle here we are again

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was able to get on do brel 1-2 step inside g3 and wooo here we go again

slow cradle
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Just got me out but I was able to get in again

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Nah

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No more Lost Ark today

inland pebble
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does artisan energy transfer over when doing legend -> relic?

inland pebble
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k thanks

vast dawn
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if i buy south vern powerpass on a fresh level 1 server would it skip me to 50?

timber mauve
vast dawn
maiden locust
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you need a char first to boost

timber mauve
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Well, you gotta make a character first. But yeah.

vast dawn
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yeah ik that part of it lol just was trying make sure it skip me to 50

timber mauve
maiden locust
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it will give you lvl 50 1370 ilvl

vast dawn
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since its a new character would i still get the 2 free powerpass

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the quest that give you the 2 free ones

timber mauve
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Uh, idk. Prolly?

maiden locust
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if you havent gotten them already then yeah

vast dawn
maiden locust
vast dawn
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i ran out of space on my other server while i'm testing the new characters

maiden locust
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buy character slot then instead of pp

timber mauve
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Much cheaper

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Or just delete a character

vast dawn
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it take a day to delete thats the main reason

maiden locust
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so?

vast dawn
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i only get to touch the game like 2-3 times a week

maiden locust
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ohh

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just get a char slot then

timber mauve
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Character slot instant.

daring lagoon
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How do I save a preset from here and put it in game

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It says to download the preset thing

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But idk what to do

vast dawn
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then i would have to buy a character slot and powerpass

maiden locust
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still beter to get char slot and powerpass on same server so you can use it to get mats

timber mauve
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Power pass just saves you a bit of time.

maiden locust
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instead of having it on another server to do nothing

vast dawn
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i don't really pve yet

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only been pvp

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so i'm only 400cp

maiden locust
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really? pvp is dead in this game

vast dawn
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yep

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reason i quit

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but lately i been getting matches

maiden locust
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pve is where its at

timber mauve
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PvP is dead content even in Korea pepeW

vast dawn
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yeah once i find a perfect pvp character then i'm going take it to pve

maiden locust
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pve and pvp are way different

timber mauve
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A good build in PvP will likely be horrible in pve.

maiden locust
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yup same with char

vast dawn
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summoner / machinist / arcanist these new characters i gotta test out

full quiver
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im at gear 1320~ and I'm dropping purple pieces from chaos dungeon. Do I transfer my current blue gear to the purple one?

rose jewel
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it wont matter much, but at least purple looks cooler than blue

full quiver
rose jewel
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correct

full quiver
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btw how do I get gold? now I need like 20 gold for each upgrade and I'm not sure where to farm it... also my account is still untrusted after like 2 months, activating steam guard, purchasing on steam etc. 💀

pseudo atlas
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did you activate steam guard on mobile

full quiver
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I only know of chaos dungeon golden portal

full quiver
pseudo atlas
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weekly abyss dungeons, gold islands whenever they show up

full quiver
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do they appear on the events tab or do I need a treasure map for those?

pseudo atlas
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they're on the compass

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next one's on the 28th

thorn cave
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also at 500 una's tokens u can trade it for gold too

timber mauve
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I just did abyssals and Argos.

thorn cave
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i dont think they have unlocked argos yet and abyssal only gives 100-300 gold per week at that level

pseudo atlas
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they can't sell anything if they're not trusted

thorn cave
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oh that is very tragic

maiden locust
timber mauve
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I’d contact steam about the trusted thing tbh.

pseudo atlas
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pretty sure you can't

timber mauve
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I’d… cryalot

pseudo atlas
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well actually the news post for the trusted thing only says you can't initiate player to player trades so maybe they can sell on the market

maiden locust
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pretty sure you can

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im not trusted and i can sell stuff just fine

pseudo atlas
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i see

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well in that case they can just do abyssals for starting gold and then just sell mats

sage basin
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is this ok? or is it just really bad

maiden locust
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its fine

sage basin
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i dont understand the superiority skill

maiden locust
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you take 5% less dmg

sage basin
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from monsters?

maiden locust
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yeah

sage basin
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including raids and such too?

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cuz then thats pretty good

maiden locust
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i think so, im not sure tho

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it might be chaos only

sage basin
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since i could have rolled like domination or something too xD

maiden locust
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yeah

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are the crit and swift locked?

sage basin
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ya?

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i bought it from market with the crit/swift

maiden locust
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then i would reroll and try to get something better if you can

thorn cave
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if i understand correctly, challenge are those with the yellow outline like in chaos dungeons, but doesn't include bosses like from raids (i.e. this would be everything BUT bosses)

sage basin
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i cant reroll anymore

maiden locust
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then its fine

sage basin
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u just say that to not make me quit the game

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haha

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everywhere i check on google it says that superity is supposed to give flat dmg, but instead it gives me defence lol @maiden locust

pseudo atlas
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it has 3 beneficial stats, it's useful

severe vapor
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how do i get another pet without buying it?

sage basin
hoary burrow
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so i absolutely must hone my gear all the way to +20 before i can gear transfer it to a new brel piece right? i can't use a lvl 19 item for the gear transfer?

pseudo atlas
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dunno where you got that idea, you can transfer a +19 to brel gear just fine

maiden locust
pseudo atlas
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wouldn't be the first time something got mangled in localization

sage basin
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so many it does give us dmg increase

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but they wrote it wrong? idk

maiden locust
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maybe

sage basin
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everywhere i look, it says that the effect is supposed to give me damage increase

pseudo atlas
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feel free to test it yourself

sage basin
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not sure how to test it tho

maiden locust
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trixion?

sage basin
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ya but it gives crit/swift and such, how do i know it increases the dmg with 2,5%

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maybe the other stats just increases that u know

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it was 2,1k strenght on it too

whole veldt
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hey can anyone help me out everytime i launch lost ark it runs in the background but doesnt pop up on my screen but i hear it and the cursor pops up and glitches out

inland oxide
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Yo guys, do Oreha's Dungeons (hard mode) give out cards anymore?!?! My alt and I are over 1490+.. i get no card packs... Thank you

rain meadow
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they should, but im not a regular card runner

maiden locust
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it doesnt give card packs but can stll drop leg cards

inland oxide
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i guess i will try again. weird i thought i usually got a card after each dungeon (regardless of the quality).. just been getting matts and 1370 accessories..

maiden locust
inland oxide
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ah so no more card runs there.. thanks for confirming. Just for chance of Legendary books only.. gotcha..

maiden locust
inland oxide
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ohhh okay

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so i still gotta grind.. cool

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Thanks

maiden locust
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yup

coarse mist
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Anybody know a solution to getting infinite load screens?

timber mauve
coarse mist
vast dawn
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how to control the drone on the machinist without using a move

timber mauve
coarse mist
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yea

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I've haad to task manager this game 11 times today

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And party finder stalled like a solid 30 minutes of gameplay

timber mauve
coarse mist
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Might be cause i hvae 15 chacracters and i see the load screen alot

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BRUH IT JUST HAPPENED AGAIN

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mayb lost ark aint it for me

maiden locust
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Why is it randomly saying your account is signed in already? Is this another glitch? I have two step notification so it’s impossible for anyone to hack me

pliant pivot
maiden locust
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I’m getting the disconnect glitch as well

pseudo atlas
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then it's not exactly randomly happening

coarse mist
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I know atleast 15+ people whove had the same issue and i wasa wondering if there had been a solution yet

maiden locust
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It’s impossible for anyone to have my info I have two step verif

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I know for a fact no one has my info lol

pseudo atlas
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it can take a while for the server to understand you've been disconnected

maiden locust
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And I can’t log on right now

pseudo atlas
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therefore it thinks you're still logged in

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so

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wait a minute

hardy sphinx
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how do i calculate the reward difference of chaos dungeon everyday vs resting and using rested bonus

flat dagger
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Rested is 2x rewards but require 2x 1x reward runs.

echo warren
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Wait what

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So just do rested, saves 50% of time

pseudo atlas
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it's on average 2/3 rewards

snow wadi
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Full rested ist 66% rewards for 33% time spend

pseudo atlas
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6 runs every 3 days for 6 runs of rewards vs 2 rested runs every 3 days for 4 runs of rewards

lavish groveBOT
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timber mauve
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hardy sphinx
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thanks boiz

lavish groveBOT
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olive saddle
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Is it possible to beat g2 breal with 1 person dead?

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?

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Please my hands are getting sweaty

silver rain
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yes

olive saddle
pliant pivot
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it’s possible with 3 people dead

hardy sphinx
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how do i figure out which skills are for front/back/no positional attacks?

pliant pivot
olive saddle
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I’m having a panic attack

silver rain
last wolf
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is anyone stuck on lost ark loading screen after leaving island

silver rain
pliant pivot
hardy sphinx
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got it

silver rain
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yep none would be non-positional

hardy sphinx
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yeah i got confused by that lol

pliant pivot
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some skills have both front and back attack

olive saddle
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Bro I just Fucking died again

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This is my only chance of beating g2

radiant flame
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Maybe learn the fight?

glacial scarab
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is there anything to do if i didn't get ticket for raid i dc'd ?

radiant flame
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midnight flaxBOT
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radiant flame
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But no not really

cloud pendant
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Is it still worth running t1/t2 treasure map?

olive saddle
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I BEAT G2

acoustic pond
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Party finder not working for anyone else?

prisma jacinth
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yes same here

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even cancel it need to wait like few minutes KEKW

honest ledge
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hey im a semi newer player trying to find a nice plan for my gear interms of best way to go about it with brel coming out recently, im 1475 currently and obviously you need to be 1520 to do all the brel gates. Most players since they have been sitting on 1340 base gear for so long took their weapons to beyond 22 (1520 ilvl) which inflated their ilvl interms of accessing brel gates but obviously thats not very cheap as weapon +23-25 is very expensive. I guess im mainly asking is just taking my main to 1520 with all +22 gear the better way to do it since i wanna access all the gates? i guess there also is the reality since i didnt have the 6+ months everyone else has had on 1340 base gear ill probably get the brel gates unlocked over time and me getting to 1520 will be quickened by getting brel pieces. Sorry for the long msg feel like i started at a weird time and just trying to figure out the best route for me

old stag
buoyant herald
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oy get 1490 and then push 1520 with new gear

rigid plank
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Getting to 1520 is way easier with Brelshaza gear compared to honing all of the 1340 gear to +22, just do whatever gates you can access and you'll naturally go up

buoyant herald
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pushing past 1490 on old relic would be madness rn

honest ledge
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thats fair i guess i was just worried how long it would take to get new gear only having 2 gates

buoyant herald
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with some push you can get 1500 on week 1

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its like 4 or 5 hones on the new item

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and with 1500 you get 1 armor per 2 weeks

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gonna take a while but yeah not that bad

honest ledge
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thats fair man catching up feels like a such a monumental task rn but i guess thats what happens when you guys had been sitting on the same gear for 6+ months just slowly rounding out characters and making upgrades

thorn cave
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only way to get legendary ability stones t3 is to do guardian raids and argos? and unas

trail hawk
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you can buy them at market, because getting the one you need is very slim chance

minor warren
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if you do clown rehearsal on a 1460 character, can you still do clown on a different 1475 character?

trail hawk
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yes

hallow relic
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if u didnt do normal clown first

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normal brel and clown will kill the rehearsal mode if u do that first

minor warren
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gotcha

maiden locust
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Hey guys is summoner better for pve or pvp?

hardy sphinx
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should ask in pvp channel

zinc osprey
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Hey guys, what lv. gear do I need to have to get to 1445 ilv.?

hallow relic
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17 all

zinc osprey
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I'm 16 on all my gears except for one but I'm only 1427, is there a reason for that ?

hallow relic
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yeah cause ur not 16 on all

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ur 1427.5 rn arent u

zinc osprey
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yup

hallow relic
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well assuming ur not an idiot, if ur 16 on all u can prob guess what u will be at

zinc osprey
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1430 I guess lol

hallow relic
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cool now just apply that all the way up to 1490 cause the gear score shet changes slightly when u upgrade brel gear

zinc osprey
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lmao I'm barely holding on as is reaching 1445

thorn cave
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is it worth to buy those cube tickets from guild shop?

flat dagger
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100%

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And they aren't just cube tickets, you get either silver, boss rush or cube.

thorn cave
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and leftover guild stones i can use for honing mats?

flat dagger
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Pointless unless they're the new 1490 materials.

thorn cave
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o ok

maiden locust
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Is it worth to run spec arty barrage before relic gear? giving it will have no crit

hallow relic
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well if u like it who gives a fk

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whos going to see those white numbers besides u

maiden locust
hallow relic
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ill tell u one thing since i play fpe, if u play well with it with no relic gear its shet cause ur out of mana all the time

hearty wolf
#

guys is pet summoner an easy class to play for controller players?

runic tundra
#

what does prog meaning

rain meadow
#

progression? i guess

runic tundra
#

1-3 prog know mech means ?

rain meadow
#

uhhh gates 1 through 3, they are progressing through the raid, but know the mechanics of the fights

#

normally there is no "know mech" part, for prog groups, because it should be assumed that you have watched/read some form of guide, but aren't super proficient in the fight rooDerp

runic tundra
#

i see , thanks NOTED

rain meadow
#

basically, prog groups are another term for learning parties

hallow relic
hearty wolf
hallow relic
#

oh yeah thats the only thing that u have to land, otherwise have fun pushing buttons for hte other skills

hearty wolf
#

sounds generally fun

charred flint
#

guys if i cant complete a quest because it's bugged do i just relog?
I am trying to hire eshu but dont know what to hire her with

buoyant herald
#

had to check if im still in lost ark discord no idea what quest you are doing but always try relogging / abandoning and re taking the quest

last wolf
#

r servers down

#

cant enter any dungeon

buoyant herald
#

if they were down you would get kicked off the game

last wolf
#

whats the difference between full screen and borderless? and would it affect cpu usage?

buoyant herald
#

usage probably not you would get a few more fps in fullscreen mode
borderless its just window mode without the borders usually used if you have more than 1 monitor for easier alt tabbig

cold olive
#

does the platinum field also come from the earth leaf?

buoyant herald
#

you mean world tree leaf ? Susge

cold olive
#

yes yes

buoyant herald
#

you cant get world tree leaf from plat field if thats your question

cold olive
#

ty

glossy lintel
#

hard cube dispatch no platinum?

#

i did run it once alrady and get plat

rose jewel
#

doesnt exist

glossy lintel
#

ah, so hard mode only up to gold tier even if you run the ticket?

#

i didnt notice when i clear it for the first time

last wolf
#

what does 110, 123123, 12, and 411 mean in the titles of abyss raid aira oculus hard

flat dagger
#

Absolutely nothing.

#

Sounds like bot party names to me.

maiden locust
#

Nothing at all. but if I can take a guess it would be a bot coordinating names

cloud heron
#

hi! sorry idk if im in the right chat, but

#

if i accidently registered an item to auction house, is there a way to "take the item back"?

#

like cancel the registration of the item..

buoyant herald
#

if no one bid on it yet yes just cancel it you lose the gold you paid to list it but it cancels it

cloud heron
#

sorry, but, how do i cancel it?

glossy lintel
#

is there a way to skip feiton?

buoyant herald
#

find your listings tab and cancel it 😄

cloud heron
buoyant herald
#

🙃 np

buoyant herald
last wolf
#

can u clear shadespire towers on every alt or just once

buoyant herald
#

on every alt

knotty thorn
#

hi, why can't I equip these amulets? is there a pre req i'm missing somewhere?

last wolf
#

can tower drops such as tier 1 and tier 2 honing mats be transfered to other alts in the roster

buoyant herald
knotty thorn
#

alright cool

#

ty

buoyant herald
#

look up which ones are important for your class+build and mark them hit k > settings
so you can see which ones to keep which ones to dismantle skill tree effects are really improatant

bleak ember
#

anyone know spawn time for Erin on Evergrace?

buoyant herald
#

who's erin ?

#

like what's the npc for

bleak ember
#

Little luck island spawning merchant

#

to get island soul

buoyant herald
bleak ember
#

yeah i know that im just too lazy to stare at the screen for 2 hours 😄

buoyant herald
#

well there is no set time RinShrug so you either wait or set a biforst there and come back once in a while maybe you get lucky

olive galleon
#

how to get the song festival overture ?

buoyant herald
ashen widget
#

can someone help me out at buying my accessories

buoyant herald
#

noone's gonna spend hours looking at market for you

#

if you have general questions tho go ahead and ask (:

last wolf
#

between keen blunt weapon, cursed doll, and ambush master, what would be the best 2 engraving effects to go for on ability stones to make the cost of accessories cheaper

sullen spire
#

how is all out attack? my inventory is full but looks like something i need to dismantle?

buoyant herald
#

all out is great for classes that make use of it

buoyant herald
#

but those are gonna cost you a few k a pop

last wolf
buoyant herald
#

it should be

last wolf
#

reaper community says: grudge, lunar voice, keen blunt, cursed doll, and ambush master

buoyant herald
#

adren instead of cd is also really good

#

adren is more crits

#

cd is more raw damage

#

the - healing is annoying af

#

i'd just go for adren every time its an option 😄

last wolf
#

ok ill try that out ty

ashen widget
#

as a master summoner i gotta leave 1 at lvl 1 sadly so should i go 3 keen blunt 1 adrenalin or the opposite

buoyant herald
#

kbw 1 is one of the worst options 😄

#

go adren 1

ashen widget
#

or do i leave hit master 1 and get those others to 3

buoyant herald
#

why are you leaving one at 1 anyway ? 🤔 you got a 9 7 stone ?

ashen widget
#

nah i'm doing 4x3 +1

buoyant herald
#

ew

#

do adren 1

ashen widget
#

or do i not even do that

buoyant herald
#

with aim to get it to 3 later on

vast oriole
#

4x3 +1 is reaaaally budget

#

Try +2

brave zodiac
#

how much more do I have to change to go to clown?

buoyant herald
#

you good

#

more than good

brave zodiac
true seal
#

When to start working on level 7 gems on alts? Before 1490 or once at 1490? I've mostly been selling them to gear them up to 5x3 or 4x3+2

thin token
#

For my alts I got them dmg gems first and then work on CD gems to lvl 7 after

misty rock
#

if u use 3x ticket for hall of the sun do u get 3x rewards from the wave or just as 1x run?

true seal
buoyant herald
#

for some classes cdr is mroe important than damage

thin token
gleaming lark
#

How troll is Heavy Armor as 5th engraving on paladin? I'm on a process of gearing my first pala with relics and after the mandatory 4 I don't know what to take. I don't feel like drops so I've been thinking about HA but my guildmates make fun of the idea

buoyant herald
#

you got vph ?

blazing badger
#

blessed / awakening / expert / drops of ether / vital point hit

maiden locust
#

hey hey a question here, my main just reach 1415 should i park my alt at 1340 or 1370??

buoyant herald
#

1370

#

the cost difference is not that big and gold diff is pretty huge

#
  • you get ghls
maiden locust
#

i only got 2 alt at the moment so it’s gonna be lack of shards

buoyant herald
#

dont rush

#

just use shards you get from chaos

#

can use event / weekly guardian shards to push alts

maiden locust
#

should i make new alt more?

hallow isle
#

I just got to Lakebar, bought a Novice Foraging Tool but it is red in my inventory and the Trade Skills menu under Character is grayed out still? Do I need to do a quest first or something?

maiden locust
#

or wait 1 by 1 to get 1370 then make new one?

buoyant herald
#

RinShrug sure why not if you have free time to play more alts is always better

buoyant herald
maiden locust
buoyant herald
#

RinShrug you just need to run chaos on them

hallow isle
buoyant herald
#

doesnt hurt to have them

maiden locust
buoyant herald
#

it really isnt

#

just do tower

#

and chaos RinShrug

#

push them slowly

#

the quests is the hurting part

maiden locust
#

the story?

#

ah.. mokokoSob

#

guess so

#

can i skip them all with the one at stronghold?

buoyant herald
#

its expensive idk

#

not worth it imo

dull trench
#

Just skip rohendel and feiton

#

Or that's what I did

#

The rest are doable

rain charm
#

how many pheons does it cost to send an accessory from one of your characters to another one

thin token
lone depot
#

is group finder and matchmaking having issues today like delays and lagging or its just me?

rain charm
#

okok

thin token
graceful spruce
#

does valtan hard or vykas hard give more total gold?

thin token
graceful spruce
#

aight okay

fast shoal
#

I’m going on vacation and I need to do lopang for silver if I bring my laptop will it mess with steam sync because it happened once with a different game

thin token
#

everything worked the same

fast shoal
#

Ok 👍 I was just asking cuz last time I did that I got a steam sync thing and got worried my account got kaboomed

#

But someone said last time the settings would just revert or something like that not the actual account

lethal cosmos
#

do i set this to mac upgrading things ?

flat dagger
flat dagger
trail steppe
#

is there a guide on what settings to use for auto dismantle?

small oar
#

Hey. Wanted to ask . I have this secret map laying in my pet storage since launch so wanted to ask what is it exactly

#

was that the one for port krona quest or what?

slate latch
#

what am i supposed to do against giant red cone attack in g6 ? no guide mentions it at all

whole panther
#

are the books from the kakul merchant and brel tradable?

thin token
cloud pendant
#

I’m starting to lose interest in this game as it seems like Brel/clown requires static instead of party finding or else you can’t join any party.

#

Fk this game

dull trench
#

Today I decided to do all dailys on my full roster, over 3½ hours, how the FCK do people do this everyday?

dull trench
#

6

thin token
#

Oo ok

#

I do 11 chars everyday sometimes 🙂

#

it does take long yea lol thats why ppl use rested bonus

buoyant herald
dull trench
#

Oh hell no, chaos dungeons ok, but guardian and Una ffffff

thin token
#

una is fast doe lol

dull trench
#

A lot of traveling if you don't have bifrost

thin token
#

its guardian raid that is a drag yea but i need gold

cloud pendant
west tartan
#

what am i suppose to do ? entrance don'T show up

thin token
#

and i will admit, this carl boss is pretty draining to do 6 lol

wraith basin
buoyant herald
thin token
#

^ yea me too. Yea sure some might be jailey but still gets done

#

and some PUGs actually just zoom

#

I got my first m4 skip in a PUG lol i didint even know NA had power to do that

gleaming lark
buoyant herald
#

who knows 😄

#

heard ppl be like

#

reaaaally against vph

gleaming lark
#

😃 yeah I think it's must and community guide says so too

buoyant herald
#

just go ether now

#

you really dont need ha on pala

gleaming lark
#

Just kinda don't feel like ether. Been thinking between ha and max mp. I sometimes spam too much and run out of mana

buoyant herald
#

ha is a very selfish engraving ha is for party RinShrug

thin token
#

do you have dps chars? You can maybe just focus get 5 engravings on those first, I feel like 5 engraving on support is really not need and kind of waste

gleaming lark
#

Yeah well playing sup is for party

thin token
#

unless its cheap? idk prices of support engravings / acessories

flat dagger
upbeat badge
#

Are 7 engraving books enough to activate the buff or i need 10?( i know the 2 slots thing )

buoyant herald
#

you need 20

wraith basin
cloud pendant
#

Who provide the best g4 guide in YouTube?

#

Easiest to understand

maiden locust
#

memorizer

#

its best to just play the gate tho way easier to understand my wiping then watching a guide

#

atleast for me

buoyant herald
#

^ same

#

watch any vid

cloud pendant
#

Lol that would get the team to prog longer?

buoyant herald
#

andthen just go

maiden locust
cloud pendant
#

Waste more time

maiden locust
#

you can watch 20 guides and still not understand unless you actually play

#

the best best way is to have someone explain while your playing,

#

someone in your party

whole panther
#

will LOS 12 be better than LWC 12 if my crit is at 62% base with no adre?

silver rain
#

only in a few instances where bosses are weak to holy

#

if bosses arent weak to holy you gain nothing from doing light dmg so that 12 los is basically just providing you 30% dark dmg reduction

#

or if support has 30LWC that is. it might be better FishThonk

ancient turret
#

how to skip mech in g1 valtan? (killed in 2mnt)

buoyant herald
#

huh ?

sand chasm
ancient turret
buoyant herald
rich geyser
#

does anyone know where i can get random t3 armour piece? ive done my chaos dungeons but im stuck with 1 t2 armour piece. kekw

buoyant herald
#

ofc we know

#

you try again tmr

#

(:

rich geyser
#

fuck.

buoyant herald
#

could also push your other pieces to hit 1340 and do oreha but you probably need like all +15 or something

rich geyser
#

ok cool thank you

#

and lastly for when i use my powerpass do i have to have the alt already created for it work or does it not matter?

brazen harness
#

Does lost ark work with geforce now again? i heard it was broken for a bit

buoyant herald
#

you use it on a char that is below the point the pass would bring it to

rich geyser
#

do i have to send the ticket to the alt?

buoyant herald
#

no yo consume it

#

and then use it from char select

rich geyser
#

i did that with the vern one but it doesnt show on char select when i try use it on my alt

buoyant herald
#

if you did it does 😄

#

go try to use it

rich geyser
#

nothing

#

and i did consume it on my main

buoyant herald
#

Susge press the arrow on the left

rich geyser
#

omg i feel like such a dumbass

#

xD

buoyant herald
rich geyser
#

thank you sm mate

buoyant herald
olive saddle
#

Guess who beat Brel last night

#

Without dying

buoyant herald
cinder hemlock
#

1 you are reaper 2 no relic gear 3 low roster lvl 4 low SH lvl. I recommend you make friends/find a guild, or at least make full relic and do side content to up your roster lvl at least 140 lvl

buoyant herald
#

he's responding to like a day old post

#

hate when discord does that

flat dagger
#

There's a reply function then, use it KEKDog

buoyant herald
#

he doesnt know its a day old yet

#

it sometimes just puts old post nicely at the bottom of your chat

#

if you dont notice the scroll bar it looks like the most recent message

opal blade
#

For PVE which class would you reccomend

buoyant herald
#

all of them CatThumbsUp

#

just pick something that looks and feels good to play because you will be playing it A LOT

#

if you dont like what you are playing you wont like the game

opal blade
#

Thanks

buoyant herald
#

and all classes can clear all content so it doesnt matter

buoyant herald
#

PepeLaughJumping i know cuz it happens to me sometimes

cinder hemlock
buoyant herald
#

RinShrug same if you built right you get in

cinder hemlock
#

only dont came with sorc full barricade/expertise hahaa

buoyant herald
#

kek

brave rapids
#

How I get rid of this thing? Can't use it cuz I already have one, can't toss it, its unsellable...

snow wadi
#

I'm afraid the only real way to get rid of these is deleting the char that has this

#

wouldn't recommend

brave rapids
#

There's no way of getting rid of it??? What a waste

#

of my space

flat dagger
#

You have bigger issues if 1 single space is a problem.

snow wadi
#

IIRC there was some forum posts I read about that issue and haven't found a solution either but to put it on 2nd page of personal storage

brave rapids
flat dagger
#

Try contacting support about it, or wait for an update post addressing the issue.

brave rapids
#

niche issues like this never get fixed 🙄

#

guess its really just gonna be in the bank forever

rigid fossil
#

is there some kind of short and sweet write up of correct guild management with the bloodstones? I just very recently took over GM in a guild and I have no clue how to correctly manage it worry

dull trench
#

Dude is 1498 5x3 and paying for Argos Bus, can someone explain?

pseudo atlas
#

you sure they're not there to do the bussing

ashen widget
#

should i keep my 7-5 stone

#

or should i try to get 6-6

#

for 4x3

thin token
#

u can already get 4x3 with 7/5 stone

ashen widget
#

ah okay

#

bcz i'm low on pheons and i don't wanna waste it

thin token
#

with relic acessories

#

6/6 is lowest for 5x3 with relic accessory and double +12 book

pseudo atlas
#

6/5 actually

thin token
#

Oo thought it is 6/6 before lol

dull trench
pseudo atlas
#

yeah? you need at least 2 to bus argos, if they want 3 to be safe then they can take 3

dull trench
#

isnt argos doable solo_

pseudo atlas
#

hell no

#

argos gate 2 requires two people minimum

buoyant herald
#

damage wise easily

#

you just need both minibosses to die on p2 😄

thorn cave
#

can gems be traded 1 for 1 without needing a pheon?

runic tundra
#

charisma is the most used virtue for npc rapport ?

buoyant herald
thorn cave
#

oh ive never traded, idk what needs or doesn’t need pheon

#

but why are gems traded so often vs. like ability stones or other items

buoyant herald
#

if you dont need pheon to buy them off market you dont need them to trade the item

#

well exactly becaouse of that

#

it doesnt cost pheons

#

and doesnt have a trading limit

#

ability stones have a trading limit of 1 and cost pheons to trade

#

accs trading limit of 3 and cost pheons RinShrug

brazen harness
#

Does lost ark work with geforce now again? i heard it was broken for a bit

thorn cave
fiery zinc
#

wtf are bots and ppl abusing this time, the markets going bad again with too many adventurers

old bane
#

good foraging spot with no mobs?

buoyant herald
#

all good spots have mobs

#

its why you want super armor on your tool

old bane
#

is there a way to reroll stats on tools?

buoyant herald
#

yeah make a new tool 🙂

#

purple ones are cheap af anyway

pseudo atlas
#

you mean months

slow cradle
#

Nah

thorn cave
#

does no one do clown rehearsal? is it bc everyone is doing the normal version

pseudo atlas
#

very few people doing rehearsal nowadays

brave rapids
#

if you do normal clown, you get the rewards you would have gotten in rehearsal

#

the mayhem marks

slow cradle
#

I think is a waste of time

#

XD

pseudo atlas
#

it is a very basic introduction to some of the mechanics

brave rapids
#

clown normal learning party is a better use of your time

thorn cave
#

so if im not ilevel for the normal version should i just wait? not worth doing rehearsal?

pseudo atlas
#

if you don't have access to normal it might be worth trying to do rehearsal

brave rapids
#

its worth it for the mayhem marks imo, but you'd have to be able to find a party willing to do it lol

brave rapids
#

unfortunately they're not 1475

slow cradle
#

Just hone

#

4head

pseudo atlas
#

that still doesn't mean they'd find any parties for normal as a fresh 1475

slow cradle
pine agate
#

whats the gem reroll silver cost for lvl 8 9 10

brave rapids
#

actually, what's the entry level for Deja Vu brel? THAT's a better use of your time, cuz the books in the Phantom Marks shop can actively push you towards 1475+

thorn cave
#

1430

pseudo atlas
#

it's like 1430 or something

buoyant herald
pine agate
#

thx

#

that's a significant amount

slow cradle
#

Hmm

#

Level 10 is 300k

buoyant herald
#

blind tried to guess

slow cradle
#

I don't remember the others

buoyant herald
#

lvl 9 is 210 🙃

brave rapids
#

Hmm I just rerolled a level 9 the other day, but I don't even look at the silver cost anymore

rose jewel
#

lv10 is around 360k

pine agate
#

wtf the cost is just increasing the more we talk about it

echo owl
#

it’s above 300k for sure

brave rapids
#

I haven't lopanged in months

#

I run leapstone dailies on all my characters

slow cradle
#

Then you don't hone

#

Xd

brave rapids
#

Well I have 12 characters, so their rested chaos dungeons is more than enough

echo owl
#

you generate a reasonable amount from chaos still

#

it’s only aggressive pushing you’d drain fast enough

slow cradle
echo owl
#

and well if you reroll shit

buoyant herald
#

weirdPopcorn i have 9 chars half of them run resetd chaos + lopang only have 30m rn

brave rapids
brave rapids
#

I've got

#

one 5x3

slow cradle
#

I got accepted in clown with 4x3+2 ?

brave rapids
#

six 4x3+2s (all missing legendary books)

#

and one 5x3+1

slow cradle
brave rapids
#

just legendary class books

#

they can sit at level 2 class engraving until i care to finish them

opal blade
#

I'm just getting started, which servers should I choose?

buoyant herald
#

any on eu central

#

kadan thirain zinneevale are the big ones but it doesnt matte too much

green copper
#

How do I make my account a trusted one? I'm trying to trade my friend some of my extra collectables

buoyant herald
#

enable phone verification on steam and wait

#

can take up to 7 days

green copper
#

How do I do that?

echo owl
#

your steam account settings

buoyant herald
#

install the phone app and set up the 2fa

pseudo atlas
#

you also have to have spent some money on steam at least a month ago

buoyant herald
#

dont think you do might make it faster tho

green copper
#

Okay thank you all

pseudo atlas
#

steam trusted status requires that

buoyant herald
#

damn that sucks XD

#

so i lose my trusted if is stop swiping ? MadPatrick

pseudo atlas
#

no

#

it's a "this account has spent money on steam and not tried to chargeback or whatever, so this account is now trusted" status

#

the one month timer is probably arbitrary and set by steam

#

it's the same as withheld gold from purchases in lost ark

#

kinda

#

it's not something you have to renew at least

echo owl
#

it would’ve been a lost ark subscription service if it did

brave rapids
#

shoulda just made this game sub based

#

might have stopped some bots

ocean parcel
#

meta wise how good is glavier?

echo owl
#

the secondary problem is an overall decrease of real players

buoyant herald
#

it would stop tons of bots if it was like 10$ a month

echo owl
#

the free appeal is a good point

buoyant herald
#

idk

#

most players are old players anyway

echo owl
#

glaive is just average

buoyant herald
#

doubt they would mind 10$ to get rid of the bots

#

glave is good

brave rapids
#

glaivier is okay, nothing amazing

buoyant herald
#

good damage and 18% crit synergy

#

one of my top picks when making a party

rose jewel
#

glaivier is good crit synergy, when you're control you have more uptime due to high swift stack, both do decentish damage, nothing wild

buoyant herald
#

my sorc goes wild when i have one of those (:

rose jewel
#

WD does the same

#

but even higher uptime :^)

buoyant herald
#

ye but wd is rare

echo owl
#

also ms/as

rose jewel
#

so im a unicorn

buoyant herald
#

barely see any dont see many glaves either tbh

pseudo atlas
#

wait wd is rare?

brave rapids
#

yeah unfortunately kinda

#

i think streamers have given it a somewhat of a bad rep, but also cuz its not as flashy as other classes probably

buoyant herald
#

it does some crazy dps in right hands RinShrug

ocean parcel
#

i heard that pinnacle doesnt have good engravings

#

im still running 4x3 and increase mass is just garbage

echo owl
#

it’s like the same as everyone else

#

grudge class cd kbw

#

the fifth can be raid captain if you run 4/3 which you should

brave rapids
#

Mass Increase is fine imo on pinnacle glaive

echo owl
#

and yes MI

brave rapids
#

idk what everyone's complaint with it is

echo owl
#

there’s also the entropy ambush variant

#

It’s harder but has the higher ceiling

brave rapids
#

yeah but at that point you might as well Control

ocean parcel
#

back attacking feels awful in this game

#

somehow 50% of my roster ended up being a back attack class

brave rapids
#

depends on the class mobility, but yeah

#

like you COULD back attack on WD

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but fuck that lol

pseudo atlas
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well like half the classes in the game are back attackers

brave rapids
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but back attacking on scrapper isnt too bad

ocean parcel
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the problem isnt really back attacking, is just the way the boss glues to the wall

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it's so frustrating

brave rapids
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what bosses do that...? you can just aggro bosses to mid if thats the issue

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i guess we kinda ran into that issue during brel gate 6, but everyone gathers mid anyways cuz edges are scary lol

buoyant herald
ocean parcel
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i think DB is the best back attacking class in the game, due to the high mobility and cooldown resets

buoyant herald
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reaper is way better at that

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just zdps

brave rapids
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wouldnt that go to Reaper? they've two boss-pass through abilities

echo owl
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reaper easily for movement

buoyant herald
echo owl
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surge blade overall for movement and damage

brave rapids
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wouldnt even consider surge all that back-attacky

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RE is more back attack reliant

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surge just wants to hit the surge on back

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doesnt matter if you hit anything else on back lol

echo owl
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well ya

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does help if you get soul abs and blitz to the back too

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still some percentage of damage

buoyant herald
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void does good damage too RinShrug

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surge is only like 70% of your damage as surge 😄

echo owl
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less actually

pseudo atlas
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i thought surge was like 50-60%

echo owl
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it is

buoyant herald
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RinShrug if you dont backhit other skills its more

echo owl
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well obviously but that still also applies to surge

buoyant herald
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well you never want to not backhit surge XD

echo owl
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not saying you don’t try to ba surge but stuff does happen

ocean parcel
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are all melees classes in this game back attackers?

radiant flame
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So what we’re saying is…surge is back attack? 🙂

buoyant herald
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yea it is XD

pseudo atlas
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other than gunlancer and destroyer

ocean parcel
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no side attackers? 5Head

thorn cave
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i know when i increase ilevel, i get locked out of gold rewards for some abyss dungeon floors, are there other stuff like that too? wondering if theres any downside to me honing up while not really progressing in damage (not acquiring the right stones, gems, etc)

i.e going from 1402 to 1415

rain wave
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@ocean parcel gunlance isn’t

brave rapids
buoyant herald
pseudo atlas
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nearly every other melee class has back attacks, but not all of them focus on back attacks

buoyant herald
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glave is not a backattacker too

brave rapids
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pinnacle*

radiant flame
pseudo atlas
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pinnacle still has back attacks, they're just not super focused on it unless you're doing entropy build

buoyant herald
ocean parcel
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i've never seen a combination of mass increase and cursed doll on a pinnacle build, why is that?

brave rapids
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cuz they scale poorly when put together

radiant flame
brave rapids
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also adrenaline

ocean parcel
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ah

brave rapids
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people will still do adrenaline cursed doll though

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for the crit

ocean parcel
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any all out users aside from sorcs?

echo owl
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barrage arti

noble ferry
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are u able to send urself a rock just like acessories?

brave rapids
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budget pinnacle glaivier can AoA lol

echo owl
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mail yourself

radiant flame
pseudo atlas
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sure, still will cost pheons just like accessories

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if it costs pheons

buoyant herald
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note they get bound when you buy them

noble ferry
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okay, just dropped some goodge stuff bedge

buoyant herald
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so you cant send if you bough them

rain wave
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🤔

acoustic trail
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what are the differences between trixion mario and normal mario?

buoyant herald
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no diff

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well you get told a color you dont see it above your head

radiant flame
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So you should pot up just before you enter

acoustic trail
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epic

ocean parcel
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does back attacking grants 10% crit?

radiant flame
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With a back attack skill

ocean parcel
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yep

radiant flame
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Yes

ocean parcel
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im new to back attacking so still learning

pseudo atlas
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it's 5% bonus damage and 10% crit

sand ocean
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Any suggestion on how to do the Brelshaza's illusions mech at HP 112? My group got wiped so many time in this mech and can't do it fast enough.

rain wave
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Is it a percentage on how many time you have to do anguished isle to get the star ?

buoyant herald
rain wave
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😒

buoyant herald
sand ocean
buoyant herald
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just x3 and x3+1 if you see an orb in your spot you go in when its time if you dont you dont after 4 ppl go in 4 should be spread out in their spots and then just rotate to check the clones RinShrug

sand ocean
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but the clone spawn at random spot right?

buoyant herald
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yea h

sand ocean
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my group just going in circling around

buoyant herald
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each player can check 3 clones easily