lost-ark-help

[cobalt wind]

should i spend more gold for the extra rewards ?

[hidden trout]

Yes if it gives the vykas mat to make relic set

[cobalt wind]

i only wanna get my main to 1445 is there any point in getting the mats

[thin token]

yes u cant finish ur relic set without buying the box for the purple wings in normal mode. Unless u get 1460 and do hard mode instead then u will still get a few purple wing without buying box but not on normal mode, if u dont buy the box ur getting 0 wings. and it might be super long if u only farming normal mode too

[silver rain]

you do get wings on NM its 3 without box

[rose jewel]

you get mats but its gonna take double the time

and normal only gives 3 mats without boxes, pitiful amount

[thin token]

i never realized u still get them without box, is it only g3? i am assuming it is

[olive saddle]

Dude these virgins kicked me out of kungelanium cuz I don’t wanna do mechs like sorry I upsetted you you try hard s

[rose jewel]

no, lol

ther's a table on pinneds, check it

[thin token]

well shieeeet i dont remember getting any wings in normal mode lol without box

[rose jewel]

foggy memory

[silver rain]

3 are barely noticeable when you need 40 to complete set

[thin token]

yea lol

[maiden locust]

what mech?

[silver rain]

The only thing I can think of that get you booted out is the battle item

[serene cloak]

no coro probably

[olive saddle]

Yeah lol fucking losers, all you have to do is hit it till It dies and that’s it lol like fucking god

[silver rain]

I mean 3 people disagreed with you that's why you get booted out 🤷‍♂️

[olive saddle]

Yeah fuck them

I will re Q and still not do mechs. LOL

Mad cuz I don’t wanna play it your way? Stay mad

[pliant pivot]

idk man it seems like ur the one thats mad and ur in the minority if u dont want to get kicked contribute and use a battle item

[gleaming tulip]

How does weapon quality damage scale compared to gems?

[past reef]

How much gold was Vykas NM? cant someone remind me?

[silver rain]

3300

[maiden locust]

hello i just started and im wondering what server in eu central should i choose and what class to pick?

[past reef]

sheesh, vykas buses are still expensive af then

[pliant pivot]

the server u pick doesn’t really matter and you should pick a class you like

[maiden locust]

okay but what do you think is best

[past reef]

in case youre searching for the most populated servers in EUC, its probably Zinnervale, Kadan, and another one i cant recall the name

[pliant pivot]

picking a support will make your experience better

[silver rain]

thighrain

[past reef]

Yeah Thirain

[maiden locust]

i dont have support as an option

[pliant pivot]

paladin and bard

[past reef]

as for classes, pick what you like best, youre gonna be grinding a lot, if youre not playing something you enjoy. youre gonna burn out fast

[pliant pivot]

sub class under warrior and mage

[rose jewel]

wait no, dont make support as your first class, fuck that

[past reef]

to this day i dont understand why we have the main classes if we start out as the subclasses. and at lv10 aswell

[maiden locust]

why not

[rose jewel]

a dps can clear all the single content you may encounter easier, and after you level up and push item level on your first char, you can make an alt char instantly to lv50 and powered up due to events, that should be the support

even if paladin has it easier, a bard as first char is pure pain

but its still not compared to what a dps will do, gonna save you time and hair

[maiden locust]

whitch one is dps

[rose jewel]

now that said, pick whatever class you find flashy, hot, interesting or w/e, fun is subjective and only you can find what you like

dps is anything but bard and paladin

#new-player-tips may have something, but if you can tell us what type of classes you like to play, maybe we can give recommendations

[maiden locust]

i like the assasin is that a good choice?

[rose jewel]

yeah they are all strong, the only bad thing with Reaper, being specific, is that she's a bit on the low side on natural defense, besides that she does good damage, all of them

[tawny ether]

how to people reinvite so fast after your party crashes? seems like people can reinvite people from other servers to party really fast but dont know how they do it

[rose jewel]

she has the movement to make up for it, master her, and you will be zooming left and right without getting hit

[rose jewel]

"Invite" > "Recent" or something of the sort

[river crypt]

what does 'orb' and 'wei' mean i looking for party screen for legion rade

[rose jewel]

there is an orb mechanic at gate 1 on valtan, orb means you do it, wei means you cheese it

it happens twice in the fight, so

[river crypt]

30 orbs 15 wei what that means

[past reef]

most people do 30 orbs 15 wei because since DPS is pretty high nowadays, they dont want to wait for the sidereal to refill at 15 bars

[rose jewel]

number is life bars, when the thing happens

[slender stump]

In the end they fail and make the run slower than just 2 weis

Song of escape

[rose jewel]

bunch of p*ssies wants 1445+ to carry them, got one of those on a deska last night, we cleared just fine

having to wait 20 mins for being stupid is better than clearing in 5-6 mins i guess, dumbos

[tropic cipher]

how bad can he be to need a carry for yoho as a 1414

[wet dagger]

for the uma task token gold shop - of the 3 items is there one thats more efficient to buy to get gold? or should i just get the one for 500

[silver rain]

Iirc You get about the same gold per token. just 500 one has a chance for 10k bar

[wet dagger]

ive got 1000 tokens, is getting 2 large gold chest (500 each) better than 5 small safe (200 each)

[slender stump]

Having a chance to get 10k is better than 0% chance, so buy largest ones

[civic zephyr]

guys what is the best class for Newbie?

[slender stump]

The one u like most

[civic zephyr]

mmmm

who is easier REAPER or deathblade ?

[slender stump]

Db

[maiden locust]

deathblade

[tropic cipher]

that's daily

[civic zephyr]

oh mu bad sorry

[silver rain]

F4 has a weekly una increase thing once Ina while check the packs

[maiden locust]

there is a weekly +1 in the ark pass

[tropic cipher]

there's a pack you can buy with royal crystal but not sure if there are other source

[maiden locust]

ark pass has 1

[dapper geyser]

do rapports give roster XP based on how long they are or is there a global set amount for trusted?

[maiden locust]

look in the arkpass if you can get it still

[dapper geyser]

I always take shit u can't get from dailies etc. mats don't seem worth at all imo

garbo with the existence of the aldebaran fest

the what?

[silver rain]

Scouter express will be gone next maint yes

[dapper geyser]

says 11/30 so prolly

[maiden locust]

you can still get the pheons

farm them

[dapper geyser]

RIFP brother

[tropic cipher]

RIFP

[dapper geyser]

l0l

[rose jewel]

he's on the honeymoon phase yet

[maiden locust]

surely you can get to 1415 without the one box of mats

[rose jewel]

its nothing you cant get later on, but this early, they sure help a fucking ton

[dapper geyser]

sumn like 400+ bc so like 8-10k gold

[tropic cipher]

just luck it out with accessories and sell for 100k

[dapper geyser]

skip lunch until reset and $$$$$

[silver rain]

I mean 1400rc would be best spend on ark pass instead of weekly +1 pack lol

[hidden trout]

Shouldnt be hard if its your alt and you got the honing bonus. One suggestion is to take a loan of mats from guildies or friends

[feral ibex]

can i have some advice from yall regarding your personal take on how to best push your main 6 roster to brel? i have fun with each of my 6, which are currently at 1460 or at 1445 (excluding main), and im not sure like the best way to push them. is i tbetter to just straight up push 1 at a time to reach that 1490 milestone, or keep pushing all 5 alts equally at the same time to reach it (like all 1460, then all 1475, etc.)

[slender stump]

Imo 1460 all, then 1490 1 by 1

[silver rain]

Maybe all to 1460 then ome by one is better in my opinion pushing pass 1460+ burn thru mats quick you will likely not to get anywhere if you push equally

[runic tundra]

how do we know if the tripod relic we get will sell for a good price?

[slender stump]

Is it lvl 5? is it on a useful skill? Then probably will sell

[thin token]

after the tripod update really the only tripods that I have found valuable are the reaper tripods. every other class tripod is like 200g or less at lvl 5

[runic tundra]

so basically tripod is not that worth it right now for sell ?

[silver rain]

Spending 7 pheons and some amount of gold for 10%-20% chance is just ....

[thin token]

unless reaper tripod then basically yea lol

[tropic cipher]

there's no inventory anymore but it saves some headaches

[dapper geyser]

I cumeth

[runic kelp]

does everyone have this or is it part of the returning buff ?

[maiden locust]

its from the global honing buff

[runic kelp]

so its permanent ? up to what ilvl ?

[maiden locust]

1415

[runic kelp]

ahh cool

[river crypt]

how do you meant to learn legion raids to a point you no longer suck? just spam matchmaking?

[runic kelp]

also does the new hyper pass come with another honing buff ?

[buoyant herald]

not a gloabl one but yeah till 1445

[cobalt wind]

can i get a 4x3 like this ? if not how can i ?

[runic kelp]

is it worth technically to use first on alt then switch to main with the hyper pass to get honing buffs on both ?

[dark pond]

hey, how many engravings books do the t1 and t2 abyssals drop for new characters?

[buoyant herald]

sure

[runic kelp]

not sure honestly xD let me know if thats dumb

[dark pond]

4x3 only? get 2 legendary accesories with hunger and the other ones you need

[rose jewel]

you cant switch once you hone ONCE after 1415, the hone buff from express is not shareable

[buoyant herald]

if you mean 6 6 stone and purple engravigs sure

[rose jewel]

around 2

[dark pond]

you dont need to buy relic accesories, unless you're trying to future proof a bit

[rose jewel]

9/9 books, 6/6 stones, (3x3) x5 accesories, drop one of the engraves obviosly

[cobalt wind]

this building engravings is confusing me like mad

[runic kelp]

I have 2 chars on 1302 so was thinking of boosting them both somehow

1 to 1415 and the other all the way possibly

[rose jewel]

you are overthinking it, you put 5 engraves when you want to do 4, first mistake

[buoyant herald]

not sure whats so hard about it

[cobalt wind]

i want to have adren 1

[rose jewel]

event wont let you pick the rewards more than once, and once you reach 1415 having all to +15, once you hone a single piece to 16, you cant switch the express again, reason is it gives 5% extra hone chance

[dark pond]

ok then that is 4x3+1

[rose jewel]

4x3+1, that's not 4x3 only

[cobalt wind]

oh okay, srry didnt know

[rose jewel]

then you need relics, just find a combination, play with the thing

relic go up to 5 on one and 3 on another

[jolly saffron]

what 4 or 5 engravings do i want for my gunslinger?

[shy chasm]

#gunslinger pins has a guide

[thin token]

hit master / grudge / adrenaline / keenblunt / peacemaker. If u are doing peacemaker all at lvl 3 for 5x3

or u can do hit master lvl 3 | grudge lvl 3 | keenblunt lvl 3 | cursed doll lvl 3 | adrenaline lvl 2 | peacemaker lvl 1

[severe vapor]

how do i get shushire powerpass?

[buoyant herald]

there isnt one

you get a north vern pass (which is better) for finishing north vern questline (2 of them) and a punika powerpass for finishing punika and a short quesltine

[rose jewel]

if you ever wondered, shushire gets instantly completed when you use a vern powerpass, for some reason

[full quiver]

where is this? and how do I use it? there's no X on the map lol

[rose jewel]

north vern port, south west part, look for a tookie statue

[runic kelp]

so I just used the hyper express on ilvl 1325 and I didn't get honing buff from it, at what point do you get one ?

[rose jewel]

1415+

[buoyant herald]

you get reduced shard cost and honing buff for 1415 to 1445

[rose jewel]

and its 5%, dont expect anything crazy

[buoyant herald]

still pretty big

[rose jewel]

it is, but people expect like 50% or some shit

[runic kelp]

ok I see so it's mostly the mats you get from the rewards

[rose jewel]

you cant sell faceted stones

[runic kelp]

how far will it realisticly boost me from 1325 ?

like does it give enough to actually get 1445

[buoyant herald]

you do have to add quite a bit of your own mats

[rose jewel]

no way in hell you get to 1445 for free only with the event mats, you gonna need to put some of your own mats all the time, unless you have insane luck

[runic kelp]

<- no luck

[rose jewel]

then start crying

[buoyant herald]

its still a huge help combo it with the frog mats and harvest event and you get 1445 really fast

[neon tiger]

Maybe i didnt read the notes but is the tripod sistem bugger right now?
I cant select them beside level 1

[buoyant herald]

if you dont have them past lvl 1 you cant select them

[amber berry]

when does the gold frog leave the game??

[minor crown]

Dec 14th

[amber berry]

Thank you

[neon tiger]

I have them, i just did a test and successfully learned a tripod, but i cant equip it

[buoyant herald]

do you have the skill leveled enough ?

[flat jacinth]

Hello friends which relic outfit should i choose for shadowhunter demonic impulse should i go poem of salvation for crit and spec or go swiftness and choose Shrieking Hallucination outfit

[rose jewel]

is it the correc tskill? are you trying to learn more than 18 lv2+ tripods?

[neon tiger]

Its level 11 for level 3 tripod but before it worked, its now that it doesnt work

[rose jewel]

#Shadowhunter imo, there should be a guide on the pins, or you can ask there

[blazing badger]

hallucination is stronger on either crit or swift (just by less on crit), though you lose some atk speed

[buoyant herald]

is it 0/18 here ?

[neon tiger]

If i click on save it just set it at level 1

[rose jewel]

Faith?

[neon tiger]

Yep, but also all others dont work

[flat jacinth]

so you're saying i should go to the hallucination suit thank you

[buoyant herald]

restart the game ? change locations ?

[blazing badger]

yaa, I would unless your weapon quality is really bad (but that's something to fix too)

[rose jewel]

maybe you're in an island that doesnt allow tripods, if not, restart game, if not, close game, verify game files, start again

[neon tiger]

I'll try it now, just wanted to know if it was my problem or a bug

[buoyant herald]

your problem 100% 😄

[rose jewel]

we dont know, we lack info

but i never had that problem

[buoyant herald]

i never heard of that problem even and i sit here 24/7

[thin token]

anyone know if like these bags get updated to contain the new mats or nah?

[rose jewel]

even if they do, they will have the same exact amount if you convert them 5:1, if im not entirely mistaken

like, you get 1k from them, you will now get 200 brel ones, but since im not 100% sure coz im not a kr player myself, maybe ask more people around

[thin token]

oh yea true, that would make sense

[neon tiger]

I changed location and it worked again( i was on a island) but i also didnt work in south vern just before the chaos gate

[past reef]

is it just me, or people will not really accept me into any HM vykas without a full relic set?

[rose jewel]

probably you, probably your engravings, probably your stats, probably your roster lv

probably your gems, probably your card set

probably your title

[past reef]

imagine getting denied bc im Blackfang's Pirate Queen

[crisp turtle]

its not just you

[past reef]

xD

[buoyant herald]

the only title i use

[rose jewel]

Luna's Guardian is the only title there is wdym, nice photoshop

[past reef]

what roster level is considered high nowadays? since i took a 2 month break im only 132

[rose jewel]

132 is decent enough

if you're on ilv and people in there are 1490 or so, that's another probably

[crisp turtle]

if you're under 100-110, im probably not accepting you

[past reef]

still 1465 unfortunately. but im 4x3 and lv6/7 gems

as for card set. LoS 12 piece awk.

[crisp turtle]

you'll always struggle in hm, because your competiting for spots with peoples mains

[buoyant herald]

or 1490 alts 🙃

[rose jewel]

LoS12 is kinda trolly, its useless on vykas g1

i would pref to use LWC12

[buoyant herald]

yeah if you have los 12 i would insta reject you just for that

[past reef]

dont have 6/6 lostwind 🥲

[crisp turtle]

i used to see 1490's running around with los6
because los is on maxroll as bis

[buoyant herald]

either use lwc 12 or hp set
or well ofc los 18 if you got it

[rose jewel]

if you're a squishy class, i would prob. accept you if you were using hp card set, or defense, but LoS12 is a lol nope

LoS6 doesnt even do shit wtf

[crisp turtle]

thats my point

[past reef]

im at least aware LoS is only recommended at 18 awk. but i thought the holy damage factor was still good on Vykas

[crisp turtle]

for g2 and g3

[rose jewel]

again, g1 is not weak to light, switch to LWC

[buoyant herald]

it is for vykas but if you applying for valtan its troll 😄

[past reef]

i am doing valtan with it, but ehh. not really an issue at this point. it goes down fast anyways

[crisp turtle]

idk why you'd reject him for using it though, when you'd accept him for using %hp

neither set makes him do more damage

[rose jewel]

i would still deny a LoS12 on valtan

[crisp turtle]

why tho

[past reef]

my LwC isnt really good.

[buoyant herald]

means mf has no idea what hes doing

[rose jewel]

at lesat HP on squishy makes him live more, 12 is literally useless

[buoyant herald]

dont need no clueless noobs

[rose jewel]

also that ^

[crisp turtle]

if you really think him having %hp cards makes the difference between him living or dying
you dont want him anyway

[hexed plinth]

What u playing?

[past reef]

Scrapper

[rose jewel]

lol

ok yeah just use hp set or something, less useless than los12

[warm jacinth]

returning player after months off and doing the event, what should I invest in here? 1/2/3? currently 1445, have 1415, and a bunch of alts

[rose jewel]

i would recommend the back attack set but idk if you have it

[past reef]

which one is the back attack set?

[buoyant herald]

get strong courage packs form the challanage abyss lvl 5 solas is easy and just farm some low tier abyss for delain armen

[rose jewel]

you can buy the store with around 2 Lv3, 10 Lv2 and 25 Lv1, not counting on the one time purchases, buy accordling

[crisp turtle]

little bit more expensive if you want the honing books ^
but not much more

[rose jewel]

btw the store will only last for this week, that's an even that was supposed to end last week, but they fucked up and got rid of it earlier

[crisp turtle]

wait what
event was always supposed to stay til 7th

[rose jewel]

so, yeah, 2 lv3, 10 lv2, 25 lv1, and buy what you need for 1time purchase

will it? honestly im confused, maybe it was the hyper thing from machinist?

[warm jacinth]

OK ty!!

[buoyant herald]

it was the machinist express

[upbeat magnet]

hello. just hit 1445, do i need to go 5x3 ?

[rose jewel]

you dont need to

ok ye it was the machinist thingie that will last only 1 more week

is that your main?

[upbeat magnet]

because 4x3 is way cheaper, and i don't know if paying those extra gold is worth it. yes, at the moment it is my highest ilvl character

[rose jewel]

how's the rest of your roster looking

and are you willing to fill the 5 empty spots for the 6 gold earning chars? or what's your limit

[upbeat magnet]

2 char 1370 and 1 1385

i guess yes, but not more than 6

[crisp turtle]

i feel like we all said this at one point

[rose jewel]

atm you have decent gold generation, so, first main to 1460, then all alts to 1415, then you can pick between main to 1475 for a new raid experience, or alts to 1430 for the best gold gain weekly

[upbeat magnet]

man i want all of the 4 i have to be my main lol

[upbeat magnet]

thank you !

[thin token]

i definetly said this before lol and now i am past that limit

[rose jewel]

also, you can use 4x3 or 4x3+1 no problem for main

[upbeat magnet]

so investing like 100k golds in eng leg book and go 4x3+1 is good ?

[warm jacinth]

yup

that is what I am doing

[rose jewel]

will be extremely more cheap and you can work on honing after, all the way up to vykas 4x3 is perfect, clown is a maybe but you can get a guild or a static, will make things easier

[upbeat magnet]

wish grudge was cheaper tho lol, gonna aim for ambush master

[rose jewel]

you dont need a leggo book for 4x3+1 with relic accesories btw

but it will surely make it easier to build for alts, if they also share ambush

[upbeat magnet]

oh but i will use the same accessories for the upcoming raid, won't i ?

[warm jacinth]

I am 2 leggo books away with Grudge

[rose jewel]

uhh, yeah i guess, unless you go with leg. accesories, then you gotta switch to relics for clown

[crisp turtle]

ambush master?

[rose jewel]

wait, lol

[upbeat magnet]

was just to have the access to the channel !!!

[rose jewel]

3 mains, sus

[crisp turtle]

[upbeat magnet]

i needed to check the box to see the channels :(

[rose jewel]

fake main lover

anyway, if all those are chars you use, only 2 share ambush

[upbeat magnet]

i do play reaper/blade/destro/arcana

[rose jewel]

2 back 1 front 1 hitmaster

good enuf i guess?

[upbeat magnet]

i'd like to go for grudge since all my char would use it but it's very pricy

[rose jewel]

ambush for like 7k for 2 chars or grudge for like 14k for 4+ chars

[maiden locust]

hi, if my crystalline aura expires, will they delete my bifrost? Or just I cannot use them?

[rose jewel]

you just cant use them

[maiden locust]

ok thanks 🙂

[upbeat magnet]

yea but i can't buy all of 20 books at once lol

[rose jewel]

you just stop honning for like 2-3 weeks tops and buy books

[crisp turtle]

its crazy how fast your gold will stack if you don't hone for a week or two

[rose jewel]

or you buy acces and keep honing

[upbeat magnet]

that's what i did. i reached almost 200k gold but i need to buy my accessories too

[rose jewel]

your call, i suggest grudge coz its more universal, but if you wanna make more back attackers in the future, there's that

[crisp turtle]

make 6 scrappers
live your best life

[rose jewel]

and if you cant access raids due to lack of accesories, that's another thing

[upbeat magnet]

scrapper looks fine tbh

[rose jewel]

dude i fucking regret not doing scrap before tripod change

[crisp turtle]

i regret not making a scrapper before i made my main

[rose jewel]

WD for life, but i was thinking on scrap, no balls to kill one of my chars and no cash to buy the ticket till a month later

[crisp turtle]

i wont ever mainswap
it feels like cheating
but, its not cheating if you only think/dream about doing it

[pure nacelle]

i feel like my 1450 wd does no damage but shes so fun

[rose jewel]

if i make one now, its gonna be super scuffed

i coulda prepped all the tripods for her, but here i am

[crisp turtle]

it feels like that, because she actually does no damage

[pure nacelle]

lmfao

[rose jewel]

wd indeed doesnt do much damage

[crisp turtle]

full relic set is such a gamechanger

[rose jewel]

unless you have high lv gems, tripods, runes, 6pc relic

[pure nacelle]

i have 6 set relic tho

[crisp turtle]

oh, then its a you problem

[rose jewel]

but then other classes will do more with the same setup

tested my dmg on trixion for the lulz days ago, 5.5m with lv7 gems, 94q weapon, LWC, full dominion, 42% crit rate average, 2min test, ilv 1492

[crisp turtle]

im sorry
did you just say 92 quality weapon

[rose jewel]

94, lol, yep

[buoyant herald]

thats some good damage damn

[crisp turtle]

my wd parses over 7m now

[rose jewel]

for a WD, i bet it is, i was expecting 4.5

[buoyant herald]

[rose jewel]

7m? what ilv are you

[crisp turtle]

1505

[rose jewel]

yeah no lol, weapon at what hone

[crisp turtle]

i might be lying, it might be 6
now that i say 7, it seems a bit high

i know it went up over a number, i thought it was 7
by the sounds of it im wrong, and it was probably 6

[rose jewel]

6 seems extremely plausible, 7 is like, did you 80% crit or smt

[crisp turtle]

if every EC crits it might be, probably not

[buoyant herald]

was about to delete my sorc and make wd 🙃

[crisp turtle]

i feel like you should do that anyway

[rose jewel]

join the cult

[buoyant herald]

i would if it wasnt 1475 shit got mega carried on free hones

i dont even like it

[rose jewel]

witchcraft

[buoyant herald]

ye 100%

[rose jewel]

are you saying you succeeded on more than 1 free hone?

[crisp turtle]

whats a free hone

[rose jewel]

fused leaps

[buoyant herald]

nah i got 18 19 and 20 wep with free hones

[rose jewel]

hunt the witch

[buoyant herald]

was about to delete the shit and make a reaper instead

guess it got scared or soemthing

[crisp turtle]

are those the purple things i just delete?

[minor warren]

just buy more slots

[buoyant herald]

yeah had to

[rose jewel]

doesnt matter, you were not going to succeed anyway

[buoyant herald]

got almost 1k on my main hope i get some hones on brel gear

[timber mauve]

Been hoarding them on my main since like week 2-3 valtan.

[buoyant herald]

[timber mauve]

Or wait. Whatever. Slightly before vykas since I hit 1490 around that time.

Slept since then

[rose jewel]

2 full mins plz

[runic kelp]

can I unlock all rewards on one char and claim them on a fresh 1302 ? theyre technically gated behind ilvl so not sure if it will let me grab rewards from level 2 and 3

[crisp turtle]

yessir

[rose jewel]

2 things, first, you can only switch that event ONCE, second, i think the rewards gets hidden if the char is on a lower ilv, but im not sure if you can go to 1415 then go to a 1302 or w/e and all things will be visible

but ofc if you hone that char further they will become visible once the ilv is enough, so

[runic kelp]

yeah it ends in 3 days so I wont get a chance to gear the alt :<

[rose jewel]

i didnt try it myself, so not 100% sure

[runic kelp]

really wanna know if its possible

[shell cypress]

How can a returning player find a clown learning group easily ?

[buoyant herald]

if you drop the easiliy part maybe you can find one

[rose jewel]

make one yourself
look on the #944813265123418182 on this discord
reddit/streams

[thin token]

this discord has LFG channel i saw quite a few made post for learning clown raid groups. Somebody mentioned before lol

[crisp turtle]

EC doesnt crit
then EC does crit

[rose jewel]

100m fart damage

[crisp turtle]

fart damage is big damage

[river crypt]

how to get silver?

[crisp turtle]

chaos dungeons are your main source
doing the lopang daily una's and cube tickets are other decent sources

[mellow star]

How long is the marketplace down for?

I'm on avesta

[rose jewel]

? it is not down

unless your server is burning

[dim pebble]

whats the quickest chaos dung clear class

[mellow star]

Says, " Too many adventurers are using this service right now"

[crisp turtle]

gunlancer

[rose jewel]

press search several times, blame the bots for that

[dim pebble]

blue?

[crisp turtle]

technically red would be better, but all you need is one skill and preemptive strike

[rose jewel]

put some swift on it and its even better

[mellow star]

I can't believe we gotta do this LMAOOOk it actually worked.

[crisp turtle]

surge cannon with the cooldown reset and a bit of swiftness, and you can spam it 24/7

[rose jewel]

well, you gotta be a believer now

[dim pebble]

tyty

[crisp turtle]

nellas with the jungles law or w/e tripod also wipes the entire screen

[dim pebble]

I alr had it, what do you say the 2nd quickest?

[rose jewel]

taunt op

maybe sorc?

[crisp turtle]

my paladin is my 2nd quickest, but ive heard destroyer also v quick

[rose jewel]

zerk is also not as bad

[dim pebble]

ye Ive heard that destroyer is very wuick

[crisp turtle]

you know what isnt quick?
wardancer

[dim pebble]

my sorc is slower than berserk

[inland pebble]

what is the main use of silver in end game? I feel like I have too much and there isn't any use for it

[crisp turtle]

honing and re-rolling gems

[inland pebble]

that's it or anything else?

[crisp turtle]

that'll be enough

[flat dagger]

Card awakening.

[dim pebble]

where to find the quickest skill build to clear chaos tho

[inland pebble]

well if honing gets expensive later on I guess I should keep saving

[thin token]

lol u will not say this for long after brel update and onward

[crisp turtle]

cost me 15m just to re-roll one gem

[dim pebble]

homie, ur just flexing

[inland pebble]

I'm not, I'm not even at end game

[rigid plank]

if you hone a ton of alts, silver is something you need a lot of

[inland pebble]

I'm just wondering when and where the silver will be spent

[crisp turtle]

honestly, the slower pace you play the game, the less of an issue silver will be

the main people who struggle with silver are whales

[flat dagger]

I'm sitting on 39m silver myself and it's not going down.

1492, 1480, 1475, 1465, 1465 and 1465.

[inland pebble]

maybe I guess after the "brel update" it will be used

[flat dagger]

I'm guessing the Lv. 8-10 gems is where it'll be bad or after Brel yea.

[crisp turtle]

if you've never struggled for silver, chances are you never will

the fact you've saved up 80m means you're not spending it at a pace where it will become a problem for you

so you're probably never going to struggle for silver

its those who are hard pushing honing that will struggle for silver,
and whales, cos you cant buy silver

[inland pebble]

I don't have any characters at clown yet

and yeah I've been playing off and on a lot

[flat dagger]

But you can buy silver, for gold

[inland pebble]

the only time I used a lot of silver was working on rapport but that is done with
and now it's just been stockpiling forever

[dim shale]

what about lvling

[dreamy bluff]

Join the gem reroll gang

[dim shale]

reroll a lvl 10 8 times

[inland pebble]

my highest gem is 8 and I have 1 or 2 of them for now so maybe later when I get them

[dreamy bluff]

How much would that even cost

[inland pebble]

I haven't bought any gems

[dim shale]

i think its 10mil a roll

[crisp turtle]

no lmao

[dim shale]

no?

[inland pebble]

that seems unlikely

[crisp turtle]

its 300k

[dreamy bluff]

I've rerolled all my gems too. I've never thought of buying gems so I've never done that

10mil, danm

[dim shale]

i rerolled and then gave up and sold a gem and then the gem i wanted to buy shot up to 20k

[dreamy bluff]

Lol

[inland pebble]

I'm getting back into the game to play summoner so I'm actually starting to play and use my resources, so I was thinking about how much silver I have and how much I'm going to actually need for stuff, if it's not enough or I need to do lopang or what

[dim shale]

i do lopand almost every day

i need silver so fucking bad

[inland pebble]

I stopped doing lopang on all but two characters a long time ago

[crisp turtle]

you're good
as long as you do your chaos dungeons, thats all the silver you'll need

[dim shale]

i prob make 500k silver a day

[inland pebble]

I struggled hard for silver to finish all the rapports and get my golden pony, but after that it feels like nothing comes close in cost, but I'm not at end game yet to know

[buoyant herald]

https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/upgrade-calculator just check how much you gonna need for whatever you plan on pushing

reaper to 1490 cost me like 70 mil for hones + gem rerolling

[inland pebble]

jeez so I need a lot more still

cause I want to gear my bard and summoner at minimum

[dim shale]

yes

yes

[crisp turtle]

yes
but not all at once
its not as though you suddenly stop earning silver

[inland pebble]

I made one and it took like an hour to fill, then disbanded in 30 min

[dim shale]

im down i got some classes that can do it

[dreamy bluff]

70 mil? Danm. How much from 1445 to 1490? Cause I'm pretty sure I used less then 10 mil to get to 1445

[dim shale]

1445 is kinda easy if you lucky

[dreamy bluff]

And that included me rerolling all my lvl5 gems

[crisp turtle]

im'a guess most of it went to rerolling gems, rather than honing

as 1370-1490 is like 20m silver on average

[buoyant herald]

honing was like 30 mil total

fucking gems

[dreamy bluff]

Lvl7 and up is when rerolling starts to really hurts

[inland pebble]

gems are just super rng though right? you could get really unlucky

[dim shale]

what class are you playing

[buoyant herald]

yeah and if you x that by 11 it gets tragic real fast

[dreamy bluff]

True

Gem rerolling isn't to bad until you start rerolling your last 2 pieces and rng says fk you

[dim shale]

im in clown gate 3 so let me see if i even can

[buoyant herald]

you cant

[crisp turtle]

you cant do reheasal if you've done clown this week

[dim shale]

pain

[dreamy bluff]

You can do rehearsal before you run normal, not the other way around

[dim pebble]

Estoque and Astray, which one's better in general?

[inland pebble]

Astray is max zoomies I think

[dim shale]

I wish i could join yikesheals

[dim shale]

astra but the starting ship gives your the most balanced stats across the bord

[dim pebble]

so what would u recommend

the speed isnt that much different, right?

[rose jewel]

do you have around 1.2M pirate coins doing nothing waiting for them to be spent

[dim pebble]

nope xd

[inland pebble]

I think if you have the coins and don't care about doing super specific min max boat events, then astray

but ship really doesn't matter all that much in general

it's like a for fun minigame

[dreamy bluff]

Astray cost quite the penny so u might have to take estoque

[hidden lark]

Where do you get tool restoration mats from? It’s not in my research (completed/un competed) and it says the codex has no information on it when I click on it under the requirements to craft it

[wary relic]

Hi, I was wondering if anyone had the same issue as me where, I am pretty sure I saved a level 5 tripod pre tripod patch. But my tripod is only at level 1 atm post patch.

[inland pebble]

just means it wasn't saved in the skill tree inventory

[dreamy bluff]

I've seen a few people mentioned that happening to them. I'm sure it happened to me too but idk

[inland pebble]

you can just repair tools without any "mats", not sure what you mean

[hidden lark]

the max durability

[rose jewel]

tool restoration aadsad yeah that

[crisp turtle]

mari's

[dreamy bluff]

I think he meant to increase the quality back

[rose jewel]

increase the max durability*

[dreamy bluff]

Yea

[crisp turtle]

you can't craft it or make it
only way is to buy from mari's

apparantly im wrong
you should be able to buy the recipe from one of the stronghold npcs
@hidden lark

[hidden lark]

weird

[crisp turtle]

so unless its a legendary/relic tool
just trash it and make another purple

[inland pebble]

There's no way to unlock the second training slot in stronghold right? it says I have to research it but there isn't one

[crisp turtle]

no

[dreamy bluff]

The thing does say you can craft it in your stronghold though

I believe

[rigid plank]

2nd training slot isnt even unlockable in KR either

[inland pebble]

bait

[ripe sedge]

Guys, whats with bots starting to infest BR? I'm hearing people complain about it a lot more now

[inland pebble]

bots infesting everywhere

they haven't been able to do anything about it

[ripe sedge]

Do you think this will finally kill the game?

[inland pebble]

no, but people are quitting over it

[rose jewel]

a doomer i see

[inland pebble]

yeah "finally" 🙄

[rose jewel]

do you think bots will kill WoW or FF14?

spoilers: even those games have bots

[ripe sedge]

Heh, well, can't use AH and AGS isn't doing shit about anything. But pheno gift? Oh! Hotfix ASAP! Bot + DC? Hotfix, nah, forget it

[inland pebble]

yep doomer

[rose jewel]

quite the doomer

[inland pebble]

there's nothing anyone here in the help channel can do for you

[crisp turtle]

Maybe just use two braincells, and realise that the reason it isn't hotfixed is because it can't be

[ripe sedge]

I don't really have anything left to do in LA actually

Finished 99% horizontal content

[rose jewel]

its not that they are not doing anything about it, its nothing close to easy to deal with bots in a f2p game when you open it with steam and you have something as bad as EAC

i am not your tech guy who knows everything and has the answers of the universe, but if you know how to deal with them, contact amazon and smilegate

otherwise, you can go and complain on the forums

help channel is to help people, or at least we try to do so, not to complain about the game performance due to bots

[crisp turtle]

Nono signum
You're wrong
Ags could fix these issues today
They deliberately aren't fixing them because they want to upset and annoy people like veristek

[rose jewel]

shh, dont let him know

and if you excuse me, i will now open my director client with 0 bugs and 1 ping

[ripe sedge]

lol you guys have my motivations wrong... I'm kinda hoping the game dies so I don't have to play it anymore lol

[inland pebble]

You guys are causing more spam about it than he is -.-

[rose jewel]

sunk cost fallacy? you can leave anytime you want, you just dont want to because you're a tsundere

just enjoy the game bro

[crisp turtle]

This may be the stupidest thing I've read all day, thank you

[dreamy bluff]

Tsundere lol

[maiden locust]

juice the weaponswings from 21 to 22 to 23 ?

[rose jewel]

maxroll calc should tell you if its worth it or not, but from my limited knowledge, its not, just raw hone instead of buying juice

[maiden locust]

all red crystals are bound aswell as the juice (just thinking of needing the juice more on future upgrades with new gear than now)

[rose jewel]

if you're thinking on brel g5&5 week 1, you probably wanna upgrade yeah, otherwise, i THINK it will be better if you use the juice for when after you transform the weapon to relic 2.0

because if you pitty from 21>22 onwards, the mat cost is quite stupid

[maiden locust]

mate says make 23 even if we run only 1-4 since i will keep it for at least 2 months. dont know 😄

[rose jewel]

that is extremely not cost efficient at all

[inland pebble]

trying to understand the calc, what is "value"? is that the total gold cost? it seems it goes up if you use the sun materials so it's not worth it to use them?

[maiden locust]

better keep at 21 then? im a fan of it 😄

[vast oriole]

Yes

[maiden locust]

ok guys tyvm 😄

[rose jewel]

yeah most people will keep it at 21, there should also be a table on #info-dump about it iirc

actually no idea what value exactly is 😄

[maiden locust]

if i would use more than 1,5 k leapstones on that weaponswings to 23 i would get 2 k leapstones for free. should i take the risk? xd

[rose jewel]

if you want to deal a bit more damage and have a better glow, go for it, but the cost is quite high unless you lucksack

[ripe sedge]

I have 91 / 94 island souls, all omium stars, all 408 skill points, all masterpieces, 60 / 61 world leaves, 1230+ mokoko seeds, every rapport NPC at 100% done, etc.

Only missing stuff like shipwreck sea bounty maps, Metus + Yearning + Vaigrays island souls, a few mokokos in Unknown + Metus...

I can level up all my 7 other ships to level 10 right now (Astray is 10).

Finished all side quests + MSQ on all 7 chars.

Nothing else to do except chaos / guardians / raids, which is kinda boring. I don't wanna do 14 chaos and 14 Deskadulas a day, so doing 4 day rested on them. Raids, I ride buses cuz my vision impairment makes it far more difficult for me to do raid mechs than most.

So right now, just going for full relic gear on all 7 chars, then nothing left to do, really.

[maiden locust]

as a player that plays for EVERYTHING he has im a fan of keeping at 21. tyvm have a good one guys 🙂

[inland pebble]

who asked

[hollow quiver]

should i use my fused leapstones or should i save for the new gear?

[rose jewel]

up to you and depends on what ilv you at rn

[maiden locust]

no touchy

[vast oriole]

Then leave and come back for brel

[rose jewel]

but they can potentially save up a lot of gold due to brel mats more than probably costing a fukin lot

[hollow quiver]

if i was at 1445

[rose jewel]

huh, that's a bit low, you can probably hone your armors, or try to i guess, with the fuseds

[crisp turtle]

He literally just said he doesn't do raids
Why would he come back for brel

[hollow quiver]

ey its not my fault i'm not ilvl 1520 XD

[rose jewel]

because summoner, having a summoner to do nothing on the game is fun stuff

[vast oriole]

Ah didnt read that far

[hollow quiver]

but yeah that was what i was thinking.. i can start hording them later on

[rose jewel]

im not 1520 either, im far from it

[hollow quiver]

because i'll be on brell when prices have dropped

[vast oriole]

Could come back for ayaya

[rose jewel]

ay ay ay

[crisp turtle]

I stopped using fused at 1460, or +18

[hollow quiver]

yeah that's what i also was thinking

[minor warren]

what is the priority order for armor honing/quality upgrade for supports

[rose jewel]

all evenly? honing first top and bottom

there is no more cheese strats for 1415 if you're wondering that

[minor warren]

for quality upgrades too?

[rose jewel]

quality as high as you can, always, but since it costs a lot, do them all evenly for nice aesthetic and numbers

[maiden locust]

if wanna "waste" em do it the right way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI1d5cL64Dc

[hollow quiver]

Oh thank you! i'm gonna watch it!

[thin token]

support focus on quality armor for vigor which will scale ur healing

[maiden locust]

yw that excel was very useful to the point i stopped use cuz mate say "u regret if use"

[inland pebble]

trying to understand the calc, what is "value"? is that the total gold cost? it seems it goes up if you use the sun materials so it's not worth it to use them? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/903532775200665671/1046232298045067284/image.png

[minor warren]

yee thats why i was wondering if there was a priority like gloves first or something

[thin token]

can just do any, prolly just do ur lowest one for better sucess chance

[maiden locust]

DPS want gloves shoulders head and supp wants chest pants (BARD)

[minor warren]

ty lmao

[terse hound]

do we know what skin will come with summoner release?

[rose jewel]

not even amazon knows

[hollow quiver]

i believe the value is essentially the gold "saved" by using one of the matts

[hollow quiver]

yeah listening to it now ahah

[weak gate]

at what ilvl do una tokens increase? i hit 1415 and i still got 1040 tokens

[rose jewel]

1490

[weak gate]

wait so no increases for 1415?

[crisp turtle]

It will increase at 1415, but I'm fairly sure it does it on reset

[weak gate]

oh so if i hit 1415 in the middle of the week it dosent update

[crisp turtle]

Think so

[weak gate]

ok ty. Where would i go to confirm this?

[crisp turtle]

You do this:

@rose jewel

[maiden locust]

game "screens" your mains GS at start of week (wednesday ofc), unas token number is determined like this

[rose jewel]

wait what

ah the unas

they should update on week reset from my understanding

the only thing that updates asap are mats from unas when you change tier

[crisp turtle]

@weak gate there's ya confirmation

[rose jewel]

bruh i bet you know more than me

im just a copy pasta robot

[weak gate]

tysm bros

[polar shard]

anybody else getting this mail to all their characters?

[crisp turtle]

He's a bot!
Get him!

[rose jewel]

oh fuck 🏃‍♂️

[ripe sedge]

To answer comments from earlier (was a bit occupied), I can do raids if no party wipe mech. Like Argos p1 + p2, and the recent Mystic one.

Party wipes on account of my disability + not being able to respond / see / deal with full party wipe mechs quickly enough. Then have all 7 people yell and threaten and bully me over it. Not my idea of fun.

Single person wipe mechs, like with some guardians and in Argos p1 - p2, and Mystic, I can deal with that and not cost party whole fight on account of my physical limitations.

[shy yarrow]

you can just delete it, although its nice to see the bots have gotten nicer with their messages

[rose jewel]

only the chosen ones are worthy of a mail like that
jokes aside not me but probably soon

[shy yarrow]

dont need to justify yourself to strangers man, if you have a hard time with raids then i dont blame you. no one likes wiping

[polar shard]

gonna be pretty annoying if it turns into a daily thing, my whole roster got this same mail

[upbeat magnet]

is it normal that i gave nia a relic gift and it only increased the rapport to lv 2 ?

i thought it was 10k points

[polar shard]

i would hold off on nia unless u trying for nia skip

[crisp turtle]

She needs a lot of rapport

[pseudo atlas]

nia is like 12k points per level

[upbeat magnet]

nia skip ?

i already gave 3 gifts am i fucked lol

[polar shard]

search iit up, maybe its too late for you

[pseudo atlas]

are you friendly 2 or amicable 2

[upbeat magnet]

amicable 3

[pseudo atlas]

then you can still do the skip if you care to do it

[upbeat magnet]

well i will try

[pseudo atlas]

last chance with relics is somewhere early friendly 1 and last chance with legendaries is somewhere before the end of friendly 1

[polar shard]

you will need high virtues if you dont do the skip properly and you will not get her omnium star for a LONG time

[pseudo atlas]

better google it if you're going to do it

[upbeat magnet]

i'm low, isnt it ?

[pseudo atlas]

yes

[polar shard]

very

[upbeat magnet]

🤡

[polar shard]

i think the normal way needs like 500 of something

[vast oriole]

Wasnt it 300 charisma, but some quests had higher requirements

[polar shard]

honestly not too sure, just know it was something high

[rose jewel]

around 320 for quest and 420 for dialogue which is not obligatory

[ripe sedge]

I know. It gets to me sometimes, like I wanna try doing stuff but people don't have patience for it. So I just end up riding buses so not to deal with all that stuff (party wipes, gatekeeping, toxicity, etc)

[upbeat magnet]

okay so it's basically gifting her a lot of gifts when friendly 1

[rose jewel]

or 300 i dont really remember, papunika.com/affinity has the values

what you want to do is sum up friendly 1+2+3 values and gift the exact amount or any amount not passing 500 points total

minus whatever you already have on friendly 1

[ripe sedge]

anyways, sorry about venting, back to helping business as usual

[upbeat magnet]

yt frog said this

[rose jewel]

oh yeah it may be 300 max oops

that should be correct, just remember, its 16 of the SAME gift, dont throw 10 of one and 6 of another

[upbeat magnet]

yes sir

[shy yarrow]

have to find a guild or static that doesnt mind letting you run if you do wanna attempt the raids normally, can also just play in some buses if they dont mind, g1 valtan most will let you as long as you dont touch orbs

[polar shard]

relic gifts make it much easier, theres one on day 20 of daily rewards and maybe you have some stashes in storage. You need 3 of the same kind i think

[vast oriole]

And 6 for nineveh

[upbeat magnet]

here is what i have in storage

[civic zephyr]

guys what is the best food i can sell in the market ?

[rose jewel]

markets differ by region, need to check yourself

[civic zephyr]

is there a way to check what most ppl buy ?

[rose jewel]

best way to get leggo gifts is camping wandering merchants, you lack the amount for the skip

[ripe sedge]

Thats what I've been doing, actually. Trying to improve my Argos p1 and p2 skills, and the wolves in Valtan. I didn't get the x3 mechs but now understand and can do it reliably now, and can deal with wolves if I stay in the south areas of the map so easy to run away when orbs happen. I've lived thru Argos p1 - p2, and wolves more and more lately.

Valtan himself and Vykas g2 - g3 still out of my reach. I can do g1 normal, but not g1 hard.

[upbeat magnet]

thank you !!

[rose jewel]

lostmerchants.com btw

[shy yarrow]

you look at the market, and see which ones have stable prices

[vernal copper]

2 g3 clown questions, what do melee do against the balls? you just wait for a range to kill?
and if the hammer is on the bomb spot, is it better just to die assuming everyone else is alive

[civic zephyr]

oh thanks

[rose jewel]

1- wait for the aura to dissapear, then you wont get gayge
2- there's always other spots, if you follow something like the maxroll bingo helper, you can place on 2 or 3, or use inana banana for the shield wipe

[flat dagger]

They turn off for a moment for melee to kill them, then go back on if not destroyed yet.

[shy yarrow]

argos p3 becomes infinitely easier with a support allowing you to just tank all massive aoe shit on the floor

[vernal copper]

ah ok, ty I have only done it as support/range

[rose jewel]

ezmode

[ripe sedge]

My main issue in p3 Argos is the seed stuff, cuz thats tough for me to see

then if I don't get seed, party gets wiped

[shy yarrow]

just look (bad joke) for where everyones running to, argos will always be in the center and the screen colour changes when it starts so following the others is a lot easier

i did not even know how that seed thing worked for weeks after clearing argos on repeat

[hoary knoll]

Anyone can tell me how many weeks it will take for a 1490 character to do brelshaza gate 5&6? With best condition like doing g3&4 week 1 strat

[thin token]

lol to this day, i still dont know argos p2 where u have to look over the edge of the screen. I still dont know what any of the symbols mean and wat the other side has to do zzz

[ripe sedge]

Appreciate the advice

[maiden locust]

theres cheatsheet for this is u rly interested but if ur in a 1445+ lobby u will never need to know this since the dino gets rekt 2 fast as that u need to know 😄

[timber mauve]

Yeah, you can Google Argos p2 sun sheet on images and you’ll find it too.

[severe vapor]

is there supposed to be t2 mats in Revelry Row?

[shy yarrow]

if the island level is between t1 and 3 then yes

[rose jewel]

talking about unas or rewards

[severe vapor]

purple quest for t2mats

[rose jewel]

if you're new, you're not going to be rushing astray any day soon

[rose jewel]

you can google "Road to rohendel maxroll", there's a list of what to do and a little route and names of the islands, fastest way to reach t3

[sullen lark]

Guys, roughly how many greater honor leapstones do I need to go from 1475-1490?

[plucky fog]

Am i able to transfer stuff cross server?

[sullen lark]

Estoque for lyfe!

[weak gate]

how often do the metrics for class popularity get updated? Where can i go to find the latest figures for ever class?

[rigid plank]

on average 2300, pity is 5280

[sullen lark]

Yikes.

I thought I was good at 1000. Oh noes. Might not get there before brel

[muted verge]

is 5k really that hard to get with a bunch of alts and the events going on right now

[buoyant herald]

depends how long you have with 8 chars im only making like 700 unboound leaps a week brel should be coming soon

[muted verge]

is that with running unas and guards and stuff? never got to that point in the game so im curious if 700 a week is alot

[buoyant herald]

*unbound so only guardians

[ripe sedge]

2x Deska = 10 GHL per char per day
3x Una's = 11 - 15 bound GHL per char per day

So 8 chars doing Deska a day = 80 GHL a day. Times 7 days, thats 560 GHL.

Probably 700 if all 8 chars do Kunga, and do it everyday, no skips for rested bonus.

[buoyant herald]

deska sucks ass
also the weekly guardians drop a good chunk

[blissful solstice]

Is there a cheap way to hone to 1445?

[buoyant herald]

no there is only 1 way its all +17 just tap it

[ripe sedge]

Do you know how much?

[buoyant herald]

dont remember exactly maybe 16 each ?

[muted verge]

how many hours does running deska on 8 chars a day take? also im guessing the new guard is like a velganos/yoho situation where it takes too long

[sullen lark]

3-8 min per depending on group

And what 5 min per cd. So like 20-25 for desk and cd on each toon

[flat dagger]

15 each, total of 45.

[buoyant herald]

takes me like 4 hours to get everything done

[sullen lark]

10 minutes for dailies. Yeah like 35-45 min per toon

[muted verge]

sry for the nooby questions, theres no other source of unbound ghl aside from guardians?

[flat dagger]

Takes me 20-25 minutes per character for all dailies.

[sullen lark]

I should have started pushing bard earlier. Sadge

Whatbare we thinking. The 14th?

For brel

[wise spade]

what's summoner's release date again?

[buoyant herald]

not sooner probably the week after 14

[rigid plank]

theres no specific locked date, its a 50/50 between 14th or 7th

[sullen lark]

Summoner and brel same week maybe?

[buoyant herald]

yeah probably

[wise spade]

hope so

[sullen lark]

14th or 21st I bet lol

[dapper crow]

guys, after all of this time, I just realized I dont have the set change button yet, do I need to do anything else?

[buoyant herald]

hit j a guide quest

[rigid plank]

Purple quest in vern iirc, top of the map in the main city

[wise spade]

it's a guide quest

[dapper crow]

ty

[brazen leaf]

I mean, you're a Destroyer lmao

[dapper crow]

na its an alt

my main is zerker

[inland pebble]

do skill cooldowns round up/round down? or do they go into fractions

[ripe sedge]

Would the game be better if 2x chaos / 2x guardians were cut to just 1 of each, but double the drops / rewards?

[inland pebble]

that's not a help question is it

[buoyant herald]

better no huge qol for sure

[tropic cipher]

less gameplay, might as well implement auto battle

[buoyant herald]

nah

[hollow quiver]

If i open a skin chest do the parts inside become tradable?

[buoyant herald]

there is literally no reason to run 2 guardians and 2 chaos a day per char XD

[buoyant herald]

chests usually are tradable too but it should

[hollow quiver]

Hmmmm okay thank you!

[buoyant herald]

if it has a 3day cd the skins will have it too

[ripe sedge]

Chaos dungeons are so easy it might as well be auto-battle.

[normal knot]

is there a way to paint something invisible or transparent on a skin?

[buoyant herald]

your best bet is trying to match your skin color

[wild jackal]

Is excavating minigame difficulty broken rn?

My -3 difficulty tool is not lowering the difficulty at all now

[inland pebble]

???

why

[buoyant herald]

what would it change if it was just 1 guadian instead of 2
shit's annoying most of the time
and chaos dungeons are sleep inducingly boring just a chore

[inland pebble]

... ???
nevermind

[ripe sedge]

lol that reminds me... when I was fighting Yoho last summer just when it was starting to turn into Yoho Hell Jail Time... I was literally falling asleep trying to fight him.

[buoyant herald]

yeah deska is the same now ppl just going on cheapass alts hoping to get carried

pushed my bard to 1460 just so i dont have to suffer any more 15 min fights

[ripe sedge]

Will that happen to Kunga too?

[buoyant herald]

as ppl move their alts to the next guardian yeah sooner or later

you always wanna be where ppl run with their mains

same with nm legion raids either newbies or el cheapos trying to run them makes it a bigger challenge than it should be

[ripe sedge]

Speaking of legion NM's, its kinda funny cuz I see Vykas NNN vs Vykas NHH buses. The NHH buses cost less than NNN ones, while NNN awards less gold than NHH.

[buoyant herald]

yeah its also why nhh is cheaper the drivers get more gold and mats too

[inland pebble]

do skill cooldowns round up/round down? or do they go into fractions

[buoyant herald]

they dont round up 😄 it just ony shows seconds

[inland pebble]

so they don't round down?

[buoyant herald]

nope

[inland pebble]

how many decimal places does it use?

[buoyant herald]

get a damage class engraving or something

[inland pebble]

and is there a way to check

[buoyant herald]

[inland pebble]

if you don't know that then you don't know if it rounds :\

[buoyant herald]

well if it does round it rounds at somewhere where it doesnt matter

there is just 2 class engravings for each class for supps its supp engraving and a dps engraving think the pala one is called judgement

[sonic mountain]

Why does it matter to you so much

[inland pebble]

how dare I ask questions in the help channel?

I want to know if it's going to get cut off at certain values and that does matter

if it rounds to first decimal place then there are specific breakpoints where cooldown gems will do nothing on low cd skills

and thus would be a waste and do nothing to even bother upgrading

[shy yarrow]

even 10%cd gem on a 10s cd skill is only 1 second

[inland pebble]

yes?

[shy yarrow]

so a 20% cd gem would be a whole 2 seconds, congrats you found the diminishing returns of cd gems

[inland pebble]

that's not a diminishing return and has nothing to do with my question

[shy yarrow]

thats why normally most people stop at a 5 or 7

[timber mauve]

Lvl 7 looks shiny

[shy yarrow]

you sure do sound like you havent see the price of a lvl 10 gem

[inland pebble]

also has nothing to do with my question

why do you reply in the help channel if you don't know the answer or just want to troll

useless

[shy yarrow]

the answer is its such a minute difference that even if it was rounded to a .0xx decimal it would be equally useless as your question

[buoyant herald]

i mean if the cd is so short it could potentially get cut off by rounding (which it doesn't cuz the devs aren't absolute bafoons) maybe you should be using a cd gem on that

[inland pebble]

so because you don't care about the answer, you attack me because I want to know
very nice

[timber mauve]

Dude sounds like they’re entitled to help from randos like us.

Find the answer yourself

[shy yarrow]

maybe because your question is not really worth even investigating

[inland pebble]

I'm not entitled to anything, but he's not trying to help, he's just being rude

[shy yarrow]

[inland pebble]

waste of my time, blocked and I'll come back later

[timber mauve]

You kinda sound like a prick tbh

[tropic steppe]

Spicy

[buoyant cypress]

whats best valtan set for sorc? ignite or reflux

Liike for either engraving class (if its a diff set for ignite vs reflux)

[trail hawk]

you dont really build full valtan set because 1445 is so near

but you can go 2 2 2 when you reach it. nightmare, argos, valtan

[buoyant cypress]

I messed up my build so im 5 argos 1 chaos dung , noww 1415

[trail hawk]

2 set which gives 10% dmg is already better

[buoyant cypress]

2 valtan right

[trail hawk]

y

[buoyant cypress]

Ok so ill go for 2 2 2 then. Thanks!

[tribal dust]

I heard of some people that stop honing until Brelshaza is released. Do we get better honing rates then or what's the reason?

It was more efficient somehow

[trail hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/453163801475284993/1018176061672017972/unknown.png

this happens, and youll have higher chances

but youll also need the newer mats

[tribal dust]

ah ok thank you

[tropic steppe]

Basically above +21 right now is probably about 2x more cost efficient with brel relic.

[undone bolt]

Please delay brel, I am not 1520

[tropic steppe]

1490 is fine.

[tribal dust]

so honing up until 1520 is still the same?

[rose jewel]

actually close to 3x the cost of pity

[tropic steppe]

Once we get brel relic, honing past 1490 is much better and cost efficient.

[inland pebble]

do the new materials only come from brel?

[tropic steppe]

1490+chaos and guardian

[inland pebble]

oh hmm

so 1490 is an important goal then

[tropic steppe]

Yes

[tribal dust]

ahh alright ty

[trail hawk]

youll switch from 1475 to 1500, so no worry to get 1490 now, unless the switch needs new mats

[inland pebble]

you only need 1475 then?

[trail hawk]

look at the table...

[inland pebble]

yes but I don't know what that requires

do you?

[maiden locust]

https://media.tenor.com/bjRu-zpj6XYAAAAC/money-donald-duck.gif

[tropic steppe]

1490 is a good goal imo and honestly pushing any further than that isn't worth it unless you REALLY want to do brel 1-6 on release week. But brel was designed to be done in order not all at once imo.
And tbh you should probably just put your ressources to pusb other alts to 1490 to start getting those new mats asap while they're worth alot, and to upgrade their relic set asap too.

[inland pebble]

so you're saying we need 1490 and not 1475?

[trail hawk]

switch wont be available on relase?

[maiden locust]

1475 is clown entry, 1490 is brel 1-2 entry + new chaos + guardian

[inland pebble]

okay, so yeah, 1490

[trail hawk]

think kanon made a video on free ilvls

[tropic steppe]

Idk what that guy was saying with 1475.
You need 1490 to do brel. You need to do brel to upgrade your relic to new brel relic (not lvl 2 relic set bonus from clown thats different)

[trail hawk]

whats the first entry in the table....?

[tropic steppe]

You need the brel mats regardless. That number on the table is probably if you push you gear unequally and have a +19 piece still.

You literally cannot upgrade to brel relic without doing brel.
And you cannot do brel below 1490 ilvl unless Im completely wrong?
Pretty sure it was 1490 for 1-2, (for 1-4 not sure but it iirc 1500) and 1-6 was 1520

[maiden locust]

cant do with less than 1490 yes

[inland pebble]

so that means everyone in the community needs to clear brel?
seems a bit rough to lock all higher gear behind brel

[trail hawk]

no

at 1490 you can exchange the now mats for brel mats

[inland pebble]

[trail hawk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--q9mDJlTtk

[maiden locust]

just two tapped 18 weapon on altsorc "insert funny emote here"

[weak gate]

is it normal for my deathblade to legitimatly get oneshot by the miniboss on argos gate2 headslam?

[trail hawk]

are you in blue gear?

[weak gate]

no, gold

[inland pebble]

You literally cannot upgrade to brel relic without doing brel.something is mixed up then

[weak gate]

legendary

[maiden locust]

u definately have to dodge the dinos charges + slams, he hits hard indeed

[rose jewel]

amor broken?

[weak gate]

i legit dont know wtf happened. I was 95% hp adn he did his little headslam (not the charge) and i died instantly. Armor was checked out cuz we just entered

maybe there was that mini green explosion hit me at the same time? I still dont think i shoulda died. 1395 ilvl

[inland pebble]

nobody knows then, it shouldn't one shot but that's all we know

would have to watch a replay but shouldn't happen again

[trail hawk]

https://i.imgur.com/wpXecDY.png

[inland pebble]

those are the horns from killing brel though

[weak gate]

some dude flamed me earlier cuz he said i died alot (not true) so after that happened i got super pissed

[inland pebble]

so you would only be able to convert 1475 gear if you had enough item level elsewhere to get to 1490 and kill brel

[trail hawk]

yes, you needd to be 1490, dunno why the 1475 in the table then

[inland pebble]

it probably does convert 1475 but it would be because you have lower gear on + higher gear to reach 1490

and if you can't get the new gear without killing brel, then the new materials are worthless until you kill brel
so everyone has to kill brel

that's how I seem to understand it

[trail hawk]

https://i.imgur.com/jVkBWCi.png

and honing rates

[tropic steppe]

The item level to do brel is 1490 (+20)
Doing brelshaza gives you new materials.
These materials are used to upgrade your relic set to what some people call an "upper relic" set.
Lowers the "+" on your gear but more stats and higher item level.
Needs new materials to be honed (which can be obtained from the new 1490 guardian and chaos dungeons)

[maiden locust]

ye items will be 12

[inland pebble]

yep, so killing brel is mandatory for everyone or else no new gear

seems a bit rough

[ripe field]

how do you get coolkur beer 😦

[inland pebble]

you craft it with old boots and craft beer

[maiden locust]

it actually says exactly how u get it 😄 una + main q

[ripe field]

sorry i meant the craft beer, i cant find it

if i powerpassed im fucked?

[inland pebble]

if you lost it then you need to do the story on another character to get it, or maybe some npc sells it

[maiden locust]

yorn main story u should have it somewhere from first clear with your main

[tropic steppe]

The materials to upgrade your relic pieces to "upper relic" (a name given by the community, not in game. Its basically just a stronger relic) are rewards from killing brelshaza.

The materials to HONE can be purchased from other players, transformed at an npc fron older leapstones/guardian stone/destruction stones at a 5-1 ratio or obtained from 1490+ chaos dungeons and guardian

[inland pebble]

yep, so brel is mandatory

as far as I understand nothing I said is wrong so far

[tropic steppe]

How is it rough?
You need to kill the boss to get the gear.
That simple.
You don't need to do all 6 gates obviously. You can stick to only gate 1-2 for a couple weeks

Its not "mandatory" as getting the new relic set isn't mandatory either.
Its just gearing up. Its how all games work lol.

[inland pebble]

up to this point you have not had to kill a legion commander to reach a higher item level

or to use new honing materials

[tropic steppe]

Its a soft reset

[trail hawk]

because we skipped to t3

koreans were in t2 for a while

[maiden locust]

they were everywhere for a while, rohend, yorn, feiton, punika, svern. all were addons to the classic game 😄

[tropic steppe]

You dont need that gear to do previous content.
Hell you don't even need it to do brel itself but its not recommended lol. Especially considering honing higher is easier with new relic

[trail hawk]

brel 1-2 gives 14 brel mats with bonus loot, so 3 weeks of 1-2 to upgrade 1 piece

[inland pebble]

it's interesting that they would lock progress behind killing her, as valtan, kakul, and vykas were not

I don't have a problem with it, but I feel like many players will not be able to do so and will have to get carried to progress

either that or the lower gates of brel are really easy

[trail hawk]

were getting nerfed brel anyways

[tropic steppe]

1-2-3 isnt that bad. 4 can be a pain and 5-6 too

And brelshaza will be HEAVILY nerfed in our release compared to KR release.
To put the difficutly of release brelshaza in KR into perspective, it was harder than inferno vykas.

[inland pebble]

I mean, makes sense why they nerfed it, at the very least by the reasons I just stated

pretty sure atm you can get to 1490+ without ever killing a single legion commander, but then brel is the wall

[tropic steppe]

The soft reset with brelshaza is a good thing.
Especially for more casual or f2ps or newer player.

You get the new gear and honing is easier. It evens out the playing field, kind of, and lets people catch up.

[trail hawk]

gl doing clown with argos gear

[inland pebble]

never said you would, but he's not required to reach a higher item level

[tropic steppe]

I dont think you can push to 1490 without relic gear lol.

I really don't understand the point you're trying to make, nor the reasoning behind it tbh

[inland pebble]

that's fine

it's just an observation and a curiousity based on understanding the new content

and making sure I understand the ramifications of it correctly

which I do seem to, so thanks for the explanation

[tropic steppe]

There have been walls like these all the way starting in t1.
Its just that as the game goes on, they remove/change some of them as a catchup mechanic.

[inland pebble]

I do disagree, and I also do think it is bad for the game, but we can agree to disagree

[trail hawk]

why is it bad for the game when you have to do new content?

[tropic steppe]

Brelshaza is a really good thing thought. To help you put it in perspective, lets say before valtan release someone whaled 15k USD to push to 1490 ilvl.
Then he pushed to like 1520. Eventually with relic gear.

Now brelshaza releases. You get 1520 really easily with brelshaza gear as a newer player and catch up to the guy who spent 15k USD

[trail hawk]

arent you playing this game for content or are you just trying to get high gs?''

[tropic steppe]

Its a soft reset which levels the playing field.
Also its new upgrades and objectives to look forward to and to work on. Which is a big part of what an RPG experience is...

[inland pebble]

everybody plays a game for different reasons and goals

[trail hawk]

but not this game, thats why there are different games

[inland pebble]

lol

[trail hawk]

and if you play THIS game, its for the content

[tropic steppe]

My point is if your goal is to push item level but don't wanna do the raids... Why do you wanna push item level? You want to be 1590 and do chaos dungeons? Im confused

[rain charm]

"I wanna get to the top without doing anything to get there" kinda mentality

[inland pebble]

there are going to be people who are not happy with brel being mandatory in that way

that's not me, but there will be people, and not a small amount

but that is my opinion, that's all 😋

[slender stump]

There won't

[inland pebble]

you are welcome to that opinion

[rain charm]

if there are going to be people like that, those people were probably not going to stick around for that long anyway

[trail hawk]

they wont idd, what theyll be unhappy about is be gatekept from brel because only lvl1 gear

[slender stump]

Legion raids is the only thing this game offers and brel is one of the most challenging(fun to do) raids

[tropic steppe]

If anyone thinks that way, brel is not "mandatory" in any way shape or form.
You dont wanna play that aspect of the game, don't.

[trail hawk]

if you pvp, you dont do raids anyways

[rain charm]

idk about you but getting higher and higher ilvl and seeing the big yellow numbers fly across my screen and they get bigger and bigger as i do more stuff, that's the kinda neuron activation monke brain stuff i play for

[tropic steppe]

Yep the only issue is that a couple months down the line, newer players will be gatekept from alot of groups because they don't have their new relic set.
Thats the only issue I see with it. But thats a community issue not a design issue.
The only solution is to have friends or guildies or search hard for teaching/learning parties.

[rain charm]

also is there any honing buff for past 1415 from stronghold, or is the current highest honing buff only up to 1415

[tropic steppe]

I think we got one up to 1445? I might be wrong.

[median jungle]

im a new player, what does card 1-6 in abyssal dungeons mean

[slender stump]

Probably doing 6 dungeons for cards

They usually have someone geared who oneshots everything, so join those if u can

[median jungle]

denied

[rose jewel]

high ilv people running the first 6 abyss dungeons asap just for a chance for a card drop

they just zoom

50/50 you get inside or not, 1 person can 1shot anything, 4 is way too overkill, maybe a good soul will invite you on one later, do take in mind that you need 840 item level to run with them

if you can only run the first 2 or 4, you wont get invite, coz they need to replace you later on

[heady prism]

What npc's do you guys think is worth relic gifts

would using it on king thirain be worth it or

[trail hawk]

on papunika you can see how much rapport every npc needs

[slender stump]

Sure if you don't need them to rapport bomb someone

[trail hawk]

thirain need 77k or so like the most of higher npcs

[inland pebble]

relic rapports are important for "rapport bombing" an npc to skip requirements, if you intend on doing that I would save it

keep in mind they just removed all rapport gold rewards so some guides might be outdated on what they provide

[last wolf]

is there any black friday cyber monday sales for royal crystals/gold in lost ark?

[inland pebble]

just a bunch of packages in the store for materials ||at high prices||

[heady prism]

i didn't even know that, i just came back to the game and trying to fix my cards, need king thirain to finish the set but idk if its worth it

any specific guide you'd recommend?

[inland pebble]

the card is good but for that crit set you need a lot of cards, multiple thirain cards, so it's not a huge priority unless it's the last one you need

[rose jewel]

you wish, we wish, everyone wishes, yet they are just that, a wish

[rose jewel]

which set, how are the other cards looking, which awakening

[inland pebble]

I don't know any myself, someone else might

[rose jewel]

well yes, but how are YOUR cards looking

[rose jewel]

not even close

[heady prism]

yea i was about to say i dont have 1 thirain

[trail hawk]

focus getting seria to 5 awk

[heady prism]

but he needs 2, i can get seria ez from merchants

[rose jewel]

its not only the thirain, you need 7 more awakenings, which means a lot more cards than just 1

[inland pebble]

you gotta fill the little yellow bulbs at the bottom of the cards until you have 12 total bulbs

[rose jewel]

dont even bother with that card set right now, equip the HP card sets instead

however you should camp seria with the wandering merchants

[trail hawk]

with seria 5, you have 9, so missing 3

getting more exe solas from weekly challange rifts....

[heady prism]

don't even remember what challenge rifts are

[rose jewel]

you're very far off from LWC12, equip this or this other one, combos of 2-2-2

[trail hawk]

alt q, for doing both you get 10 packs

[last wolf]

can we use the vern ball effect just by visiting the stronghold of someone who has the effect?

[trail hawk]

there you select the packs which have a chance for exe solas

[cloud pendant]

Why are there so few valtan and vykas normal mode along anymore?

Has everyone gone past that stage already?

[heady prism]

its 6 am

[trail hawk]

7*

[cloud pendant]

Not now but these few days

[inland pebble]

well depends on region, but... pretty early in the morning in most places, I did two normals earlier

[trail hawk]

dunno, ive seen a lot of normal ones

[rose jewel]

imo, people that are already veterans honed to 1460 to avoid playing with people who arent as experienced

[trail hawk]

what is missing is supports...

on wednesday there were like 40 normal vykas runs, all missing supports

euc*

[inland pebble]

I should've made all support alts

[rose jewel]

imagine not having 3 support alts already, couldnt be me

[inland pebble]

I heavily regret not making all bards and paladins

[lofty dagger]

LF picture of wind element pet's aura (i guess it should be green).

[heady prism]

dumb question but how do i check daily login rewards

i genuinely cannot find the button for it

[shy yarrow]

top left right next to the aura button

first one after the break in the bar

[pulsar kindle]

Does anyone know how to set up the True or False quiz in Stronghold?

[last wolf]

where do i go to exhange una tokens

[last wolf]

is there any difference in value in the gold shop

or r they all "equal"

[rose jewel]

around equal, probably not even 5% difference, big has the best chance at giant gold bar drop, that's 10k gamba

so everyone usually goes for the big box

[pallid panther]

Just checking this will dismantle only bad stuff right ? i dont even get any descent accessories on my inventory from chaos dg

[elder jewel]

How to enter Dressing room? Is there hotkey?

[last wolf]

what r we meant to do with replica

[rose jewel]

the bottom options also are important, #info-dump has options specifically for amulets, but those options should work on accessories as well

[rose jewel]

mind telling what is that, or sending a ss

[sudden pivot]

what item level does the south vern powerpass put you?

[rose jewel]

see that little trash icon on the lower right? that means its literally that, you can sell those at any general merchant for silver

[rose jewel]

1370 full +6 chosen gear (the one from abyss)

[sudden pivot]

thanks boss