lost-ark-help

[solar knoll]

it's not like cloud actually has any meaning whatsoever, it just means big datacenter

we still do the exact same things as before "cloud"

[frigid flare]

what do NM and HM in buses mean?

[crisp turtle]

Normal mode hard mode

[frigid flare]

ok

[solar knoll]

well, still server rooms, but they're just 100x larger now ;d

I operate servers in 2 datacenters

and I am also a certified microsoft cloud solution provider

so got some stuff over in azure as well

it's decent :)

I am trying to not fall into my old gacha addiction again

[last wolf]

from this does it mean that powder of sage is the most worth

the greatest green%

[solar knoll]

I have the mindset of a serial gambler so I don't wanna start rewarding my brain with endorphins from swiping too much, I know I'll get addicted and spend a thousand dollars without realizing

[last wolf]

yeah ive been trying to do basic oreha too but im using 80% of what im crafting myself cause of the honing curse rng

iLevel 1420.83 and lvl 51

i was following maxroll.gg initially to get to 1415 which doesnt have everything balanced

[solar knoll]

maxroll are on the crazy pills

[solar knoll]

doing gloves and weapon higher than the rest was more a norm from earlier with lower ilvl caps

[last wolf]

what does getting them to 1370 do?

do i do chaos dungeons and guardian raids on them?

[solar knoll]

also yes, if you are struggling on capping out on una's tasks

doing the weekly tasks x3 on 2 chars gets you a long way

[scenic crypt]

if a new player buys a north vern powerpass do they get the 2nd free one

[solar knoll]

yes

[buoyant herald]

they actually get 2 for free 🙂

[solar knoll]

yeah you get both the free ones

[buoyant herald]

tbh if you are alr spending just get the punika pass

[last wolf]

i used it on my first alt already

[solar knoll]

you get a free punika pass during this event too

once you finish a purple quest from nia

[last wolf]

my alt is higher than my main.

[buoyant herald]

you get 2 per server if you alr used them you dont get any more

[scenic crypt]

and how do they get the 2nd free one is there a quest or just automatically

[buoyant herald]

you get the second one when you use f irst one

[solar knoll]

you get the first north vern pass in the mail immediately after finishing the main quest, and you get the second one after you use any powerpass or get any other character past north vern

you don't actually have to use the first one to get the second one, just having any second character reach the same progress gives you a second

[minor warren]

p sure this is against tos unless you mean alts on the same account

[scenic crypt]

but i mean after purchasing the 1100 rc vern powerpass

so if i buy 1100 rc vern powerpass and use it on a character, do i get 1 extra or 2 extra?

[solar knoll]

yeah if you purchase a vern powerpass for your first char, you will get one extra free powerpass in the mail, then once you get a second character to the same progress level by any means you get a second free powerpass as well

[last wolf]

how do u do argos at 1370 without paying for a bus. no party will ever accept u

[solar knoll]

there is a gang of players who do free argos bus few times a week

[buoyant herald]

make your own party and take players at same level as you

[solar knoll]

you just gotta be lucky and find them, otherwise find a guild who are willing to boost you

or yeah just learn the mechanics and do it normally

it's not actually that difficult of a fight, it was designed for a 8 man party of 1370 players

[buoyant herald]

its actually very sad how players just default to buying a bus

[last wolf]

i got the mechanic after failing it countless times but is it possible for sun party to stop the stagger wipe when we all at 1370

[solar knoll]

yes, use grenades

[buoyant herald]

you just do the sun mech 😄

[solar knoll]

stagger check + grenades = win

whirlwind grenades are cheap and you should have a bunch of bound ones for free already

[serene cloak]

so i got my hyper express character to 1415 can i change it to my 1444 character?

[buoyant herald]

yes

[serene cloak]

will i get the 1430 mats from it ?

[dapper geyser]

these are roster wide right? even tho they don't say it?

[buoyant herald]

you get all the mats yes

[last wolf]

all the buses i see ask for 1400 min 👀

[solar knoll]

yes all stat and skill point potions are roster-wide always

[last wolf]

is region swapping possible while maintaining character roster 🙂

[solar knoll]

EUC even has the occasional "FREE CARRY BUS" gang showing up to ruin the economy of bus drivers

I love those people

[acoustic trail]

just did that for valtan and they quit after a single wipe

[solar knoll]

I've found them twice already

probably xd

[last wolf]

whats the easiest way to make silver? im at 102 silver now 😦

[minor warren]

Lopang, chaos, and cube

[last wolf]

at ilevel 1300*

[acoustic trail]

I titled the group "lets wipe!" so im not sure what they were expecting really

[minor warren]

point still stands :v

[last wolf]

r adventure quests across roster? i.e if we complete 1 on another acc its completed for all other charcters in the same roster

[minor warren]

Some peoples attitudes in raids are so bad

[minor warren]

If the quest says roster quest then it’s for your entire roster

So you don’t have to do it on your alts

[solar knoll]

most purple quests are roster, and most yellow quests are not, but there are tons of exceptions, the quest itself will say clearly at the top of if it is a roster quest

and also have a specific symbol for that in the quest journal

[serene cloak]

weapon to +19 first or ?1445 atm

[maiden locust]

I'd recommend 1445 first. Make sure you can do the 1445content over having a 19weapon

[serene cloak]

i was 1445 but nvm actually 3tap this shit XDDDDDD

[maiden locust]

You were going to upgrade it anyways eventually probably but grats

[last wolf]

is 238 royal crystals for 3308 gold inflated, and if so, what would be the ideal amount for us to take the currency exchange

[maiden locust]

i buy bus because i was many times in toxic raids as a support (bard & paladin), where making one mistake resulted in infinite insults

[alpine grotto]

Hi guys, I have one or two questions because I can't seem to get a straight answer.
First, do I receive the free Power pass (and the second one), if I buy a Vern PowerPass with Royal Crystal ?
Second, if i do receive the free PowerPass when buying one, will I be able to use it on the summoner class that is coming on December ?
Thansk you very much in advance

[maiden locust]

For the 2nd you can make a mage class right now and powerpass it from the character menu, just don't select a class (bard/sorc/arcana) for it yet until summoner comes out.

[alpine grotto]

OK, but right now i dont have any power pass, thats why i wanted to know if byuing one will get me a free one so i can Power pass one character now and wait for the summoner or should i just farm from scratch a charactere to get myself the 2 free pwoer pass. I have some spare Royal Crystal thats why i wanted to know if byuing one is good 🙂

[fair mantle]

Well buying one isn't 'worth' in terms of what royal crystals can get you but if you don't wanna get a character to tier 3 yourself then sure

[maiden locust]

is it your first character? @alpine grotto

[fair mantle]

And there's only one Punika powerpass, not two

[alpine grotto]

Yes, i just changed the server i was on to go with some friends so i starting from scratch. (and also i am a huge noob in term of mmorpg)

[alpine grotto]

What do you mean by that ?

[alpine grotto]

No more vern power pass ?

[maiden locust]

Not sure if that's still in the game. It might i'm just not sure

[fair mantle]

It's very easy to get to tier 3 given the buffs and mats etc so that huge amount of royal crystals can get you a lot more better stuff

[fair mantle]

There is, but if you're on the same region not sure if you get another Vern, Punika neither, why would you start on another server tho

[maiden locust]

Pretty sure he's trying to avoid having to do the 1-50msq

[fair mantle]

Ah I see if it's not a sv pass then v pass is worth

[alpine grotto]

That and well i was alone on my server, and some of my friend are on another server, so it was decided that i should just move to go together.

[alpine grotto]

You lost me there xD

[maiden locust]

there's north vern which is the cheapest pass and south vern which is the most expensive

[fair mantle]

I mean barely any activities are server wide, only islands and field bosses, not worth the extra work imo, you can do everything else together

[alpine grotto]

Yes yes when i am talking about PP i wawnt to take the north vern (1000 crystal)

[fair mantle]

North Vern is worth, switching servers isn't

[sleek slate]

can you still enter argos if you only have gate 3 left? or do you have to get into a gate 3 party?

[fair mantle]

Gate 3 party ofc any normal party can't enter since you've exhausted your gate 1

[sleek slate]

F, so I'm screwed out of my Gate 3 unless I luck into finding a Gate 3 because my argos group disbanded

[fair mantle]

Disbanding in Argos lul

[sleek slate]

I was asking for help, not asking to get judged

[alpine grotto]

yes i can see that changing serv is a pain in the a**, but i dont really mind it :). But to go back to the initial question, will i get the free power pass of north vern if i buy one before hand ? To put it in context : I have a Sorceress that just started Yudia, so if i get a paid PP of north vern for her, will she get the free PP so i'll be able to use it on a new charactere (a summoner in decmebre in my case). Sorry if this might be a lot LA is my first mmo so i get confused easily 🙂

[fair mantle]

Have you used the powerpass on your original server? If yes then nope it's once per account

Shop bug

[alpine grotto]

the first one yes on a glaivier, the second one expired xD

[fair mantle]

Vern pass doesn't expire

[alpine grotto]

what, so were is my second one ? 🤔

[fair mantle]

You get it when you use your first one

[alpine grotto]

hmmm, i search in every corner of my chest and i dont saw it

i might be blind

[fair mantle]

It comes in your mail first, if you didn't accept it earlier it might have expired already

You stop moving if you open the shop

[alpine grotto]

So even if my main character is in Kadan, if i switch to lazenith it still remeber giving me the free power passes on Kadan. Did i get that correctly ?

Fuu, well i guess i'll just wait december to PP my summo then ahah

[fair mantle]

You still get your Punika powerpass, have you claimed that yet?

[alpine grotto]

On my main account, I am not yet there, I am a slow player

[last wolf]

how do u get payla structure the cost reduc for crafting

[fair mantle]

So you still have a Punika powerpass then

[frigid oracle]

How much are the weekly challenge abyssal dungeon legendary card packs from the auctions worth again?

[last wolf]

isnt there another way which is to complete a quest or rapport?

[maiden locust]

If you mean her outfit, you have to max her rapport. There aren't other ways

[fair mantle]

There are a lot, are you talking about select packs?

[frigid oracle]

leg rando and select

[fair mantle]

Depends on your group but like 5k for random and 25k+ for select

[crisp turtle]

There are no set values, or "worth" prices, as people personally value them very differently

It's purely down to what you'd value it at

[limpid flare]

whats a good way to make gold in this game

[fair mantle]

Raids, alts, and selling mats are the main sources

[cosmic cedar]

Is it just me or are the disconnects getting worse? I keep dc'ing during loading screens. That was the 4th time in a row (Guardian Raids)

[last wolf]

will market or auction be fixed anytime soon? already had lots of problems for the past few weeks but i cant even access anything at all tonight

[fair mantle]

It isn't as prevalent on naw

A couple tries should be enough

[past smelt]

this worth anything?

[flat dagger]

Yes, check the market.

[past smelt]

there are none

[wraith basin]

click the other tab

[past smelt]

none either

[flat dagger]

🤨

[wraith basin]

ur lying

[flat dagger]

You might have the market bug, try opening it a couple of times.

[past smelt]

ah thats funny

[wraith basin]

yea in the evening you need to refresh a bunch, there should be stones up lol

[past smelt]

now it works

[wraith basin]

I thiiink so, gotta do all your weeklies

[ancient kestrel]

https://prnt.sc/zXN__s9agHsf

should this be ok till relic accs upgrade ?

[crisp turtle]

i mean, its not good
what ilvl are you

[timber mauve]

MI 2

[ancient kestrel]

Ye can't rly get relics one till I save some geld for pheons

Is day one setup

1430

[maiden locust]

You'll probably be gatekept from nvaltan/vykas

[wraith basin]

reapers 🫠

[maiden locust]

Unless they really dont care

[timber mauve]

Yeah, it’s going to be hard to find a group imo.

[crisp turtle]

whats your stone, what books are you using?

[ancient kestrel]

Doesn't matter just wondering if it's ok for like a temporary build for like guardians and other low content

[maiden locust]

For deskaluda/chaos dungeon its fine

[timber mauve]

If you can clear, it’s okay. We’re just saying it’s pretty bad and you’re gonna be gatekept from raids and such.

[ancient kestrel]

Ye that's ok . I can just run with Mates 🙂

Thx

[unkempt breach]

those dont exist

no one really does clown rehersal

at least that I know of

[spiral gate]

man how are you supposed to clear valtan for the first time nowadays if you're mega behind

[tired jay]

anyone know the exact amount of exp u need from lvl 50 to 60?

[timber mauve]

Join a guild and have them teach you.

Wait, EUW

[spiral gate]

I've heard EUW is ass

[radiant flame]

it is

[spiral gate]

idk if this is normal but there are like only 10 valtan hard or normal parties max at any given time

[radiant flame]

yes, because there are no players

better to restart euc

[timber mauve]

Normal for EUW.

[radiant flame]

if you are only at valtan

[timber mauve]

With the honing buffs and the express, you can zoom there in like a week.

[spiral gate]

well it is a low GS but still 260 hours and I've got an alt 1370 and 1415

[timber mauve]

Oh yeah, I’d reroll if I were you.

But it’s up to you.

[radiant flame]

tbh i dont know how you spent 260 hours

but getting to 1415 with the current events is like, <50

[spiral gate]

many afk and fucking around, got 2 1370s and 2 1415

[radiant flame]

yeah, it's up to you as the other guy said. but i think if you want to actually experience end game content, id switch

they are looking into region merges but right now there is no tech for it

[spiral gate]

you do lose EVERYTHING including skins right?

[hollow quiver]

Hello, how do i know which type of gem it will land on?

[radiant flame]

you lose everything

[ionic kelp]

is there any other way to get items from chaos dungeons ive done 6 runs in 3 days and im still missing head peace

[timber mauve]

You pray

[radiant flame]

you dont, its 50/50

[hollow quiver]

😭

nice got damage XD

[timber mauve]

That’s why my guild mate was trying to summon chin chin, satan, Jesus, and he man to fuse his lvl 9 gems into a 10 dmg gem

[radiant flame]

i mean that's epic gems, it doesn't even matter at that point tbh

[spiral gate]

I've got like 45 bucks worth of shit and well my poopy roster, would you say that the quality of life in EUC is so much better that it's worth going through all the tedious shit again

[modern beacon]

any idea what this is? trying to look at second page in auction house search results when this error pops up and shows a blank page. If I keep switching pages about 1/10 times it shows the page

[timber mauve]

I would personally swap.

[spiral gate]

have you been in EUC and is it really that much more alive?

I'm kinda coping but I think there's no going around it

[radiant flame]

euc is the biggest region

[timber mauve]

I’m on NAW which is a lower pop NA server. EUC is one of the highest pop regions of all.

[spiral gate]

any chance of server merge in the future? they gotta see there's a problem

[radiant flame]

as i said, there is no tech for region merges

[timber mauve]

Not gonna happen.

[radiant flame]

because KR/RU are all one region

[timber mauve]

Far as I know, the framework doesn’t support it.

[errant patio]

hey peeps, I just made a reaper and I'm trying to figure out what engravings to get first. I don't have any gold at the moment since I'm just coming back from several months off. Any recommendations on what to focus on to get back on track?

[timber mauve]

#reaper

[timber mauve]

#navigation

[errant patio]

ty, just noticed

[spiral gate]

ok so any tips on changing region/saiyng goodbye to my euw boys?

[spiral gate]

go to maxroll and look at the reaper page

[timber mauve]

I also quit a few months ago and just came back. But I have no clue what your roster looks like. Personally, I just did legion raids on all 6 of my characters, then I went to gamba with the frog on engraving books. Made like 100k gold from that combined.

[timber mauve]

Press EUC on the menu, select server, press start

Tell them to reroll too.

[spiral gate]

man already before even spending 1 second ingame I'm getting aids from needing new names

[spiral gate]

tell who

nvm I had a stroke

[tranquil magnet]

How bad is Arthentine cooking?

[timber mauve]

Not too bad

[tulip copper]

i need help to find the color code of an ingame skin. anyone willing to go through this hell with me?

[timber mauve]

Take a screenshot of the skin, then use photoshop or mspaint to grab the color code.

[tulip copper]

you think i didnt try that already? this game does not reflect the same color as shown through the color code. it doesnt match up

[coral umbra]

the guardian investigation quest chain doesn't give gold anymore? when was this changed?

[tulip copper]

thats why only option is to get a pixel perfect mouse-color perception on that stupid small color picker wheel

[timber mauve]

Seemed to work fine for me in photoshop. Had to do some tweaking, but turned out fine.

[timber mauve]

Likely was changed, but first I’ve heard of it.

[tulip copper]

i need this baaaaaaaaddddd

i mean the color code of it

[coral umbra]

no big deal, I will just wait till they add gold rewards back

[timber mauve]

just data mine it

[tulip copper]

HACKERMANS

[flat dagger]

No shot they will, just like they removed all gold from rapport rewards. It's all due to bots farming gold.

[tulip copper]

fuck bots and people who rmt. i mean it with all my heart and dick

[coral umbra]

a good way to make sure new players don't stick around, since all guides still list gold rewards

[flat dagger]

It was probably changed along with the latest rapport gold removal.

[snow wadi]

Cheap way to gear alts with 2 leg combat engravings but no class engravings?
Option 1: Use Purple Class engraving and 1 Leg?
Option 2: Full legendary items, but 2 combat engravings?

[lilac pelican]

Can i ask a silly question

Could Bots usage on the Market overload player count usage to not let you search on market

[rigid plank]

thats quite literally what is happening

[tulip copper]

you want 4x3? then you can get it with 2 purple engravings all legendary and an easy rock which is 6/6 i believe

[lilac pelican]

?? as im getting a error too many users using service

FUCKING BOTS

[snow wadi]

Hm, but I do have 2 leg combat engravings
Thinking of doing something like all legendary with relic stone for some 4x3+1

Or try to sneak in 1-2 relic accessoires for more stats and better build

[tulip copper]

the focus on building engravings on alts is to not get gatekept when lfg. so you go with whatever "looks" more invested in

you can go 4x3+1

[lilac pelican]

ngl thats pre rough XD

prolly 50 more near crafting area

[timber mauve]

Seems to be working for me… just use a spreadsheet if not.

[tulip copper]

engraving planning gives me path of building flashbacks.. i hate spending my time "planning" on another program when the game just waits for me to play it...

[south lintel]

MSPaint is the ultimate engraving planner tool

[amber spruce]

guys why is the auction house showing i have less money then what i actually have?is it related to deposit?

[south lintel]

Withheld gold, like from selling crystals, does not show in the AH until the time limit is up

[amber spruce]

why would my gold be withhelded?

+i only bought blue crystals i didn't sell

wtf

i didn't buy any gold

[south lintel]

Idk. You can hover your mouse over your gold on the top of your screen. If there's gold withheld, you'll be able to see when you do that.

If you don't have gold withheld and the AH is showing that you have less than you actually do, sounds like a bug that may be resolved by restarting your game

[amber spruce]

ye ye i see it's withheld but why?

i just bought bc to buy pheons
no gold bought

[tulip copper]

send ss

[lapis minnow]

is there a setting to only track tripods with higher level?

[zenith patrol]

is it possible to get +4 adrenaline and +3 shock class engraving as a ring?

cuz im trying to get one but there are only +5 shock class engravings and +3 adrenaline ones

nvm u can its just not a popular ring combo i guess

[flat dagger]

Yes, go to your tripod settings.

[terse hound]

I just bought 20x legendary grudge books, 1st legendary engraving, account wise do I buy 20x class engraving for the main (tai scrapper) or something like cursed doll/ambush master

[buoyant herald]

go for clalss
x5's on accs always cost around the same as whole 20 class books each 😄

[flat dagger]

If you have multiple +5 classes then go for another combat book, otherwise class engraving books.

[flat dagger]

Or a lot more... Very likely a lot more. Especially when Ancient Accessories come out too.

[buoyant herald]

yeah XDD

[rugged saffron]

I got a server disconnect after finishing a rested turtle. Does anyone know the steps to report to AGS for support on the issue?

[buoyant herald]

no steps needed you lost the loot and they arent gonna do shit about it it is what it is

[neon swan]

guys how my friend has battle pass icon but i dont? how to get that

[rugged saffron]

theres really no way to message amazon?

[timber mauve]

!support

[midnight flax]

Reminder for our new users, we are NOT affiliated with Amazon nor Smilegate. Please stop asking mods for in game support/help.
Contact customer support: https://www.amazongames.com/en-us/support/lost-ark

Otherwise try the forums or amazon discord.
We are a community discord built and run by community members, thanks.

[rugged saffron]

thanks!

[rose jewel]

coz you're likely new and you need lv50 to see it

[ripe sedge]

Question about this honing book. It says 16 - 18. Does that mean it works from 15 --> 16, and 17 --> 18, or does it alss include 18 --> 19?

[buoyant herald]

just 15 > 16 and 16-17 and 17-18

[ripe sedge]

Thanks. Does the Hyper Express have more of these books?

Saving these daily login books for summoner

[buoyant herald]

nope not this time

[rose jewel]

check the kill date on the books (i cant see shit rn)

[ripe sedge]

Hmm. My lowest ilvl RN is my GL at 1447 (my 6 other chars are 1460), so wondering whether to use these books on him for 1460, or save these books for summoner and get her to 1460 even faster?

[ripe sedge]

Expires in Feb

[rose jewel]

feb? wtf

well that's good for everyone

[buoyant herald]

hope we get artist before those expire cuz i dont have anything to use them on anymore

[buoyant herald]

yeah

[ripe sedge]

Not going for summoner?

[buoyant herald]

nah fuck that
dont like ranged clasases

[ripe sedge]

lol ironic since tanks are ranged xD

[buoyant herald]

have a sorc and i absolutely hate it replacing bardge with ayaya nr1 and sh with ayaya nr2

[buoyant herald]

not mmo tanks

[wet dagger]

Besides the weekly abyssal dungeons and like rapport and random stuff like the level in chaos dungeons what are ways to make gold?

[rose jewel]

adv. island, selling shit on ah

[wet dagger]

Would gathering the adventure tome items and selling in AH give lots of gold?

[shy chasm]

sell unbound mats you dont need

[rose jewel]

lol no, most of them are 1g worth

[shy yarrow]

the best drop ive gotten from adventure tomb stuff was a crow stone worth like 200g

[wet dagger]

Ohh I can do the unbound mat I'm sitting on a lot

[shy yarrow]

there are much better ways to make gold

[wet dagger]

Gold seems to be the bottleneck for me for item level 1340

I know I get some from Uma task and weekly abyssal but was seeing best daily way

[shy chasm]

leaps?

oh wait im dumb

[tranquil magnet]

If I swap characters mid raid to lets say "grab a wei card from merchant", if i reconnect to the raid character before the gate is over will it let me back in or kill my entry?

[shy yarrow]

i have never tried that but honestly id just ask to quit or complete the raid

[tranquil magnet]

i might be the first to try then 😎

[shy yarrow]

alternatively just make them fail and then say you need to get a wei card and vote quit

[rose jewel]

if you "dc" and get in time before they kill the boss and advance to the next gate, entry is untouched and you get loot

but that's a dick move, just tell them "Wei in X server Y place" and people will wait most of the time

[wispy oak]

question about gems. I have another acc with a lot of shilling but without powerpass. If I made new char I just need put him in vern or need more?

[rose jewel]

i dont really get the question, you want gems, you want to sell gems, you want to just make a char to t1 or t2 oe t3 or ... ?

and how can the other account not have powerpasses, you used both vern and punika already?

[wispy oak]

I want reroll with shilling

but I dunno if vern 600 gold bus is enough

[fiery zinc]

does Field Boss Tarsila basically drop Giant's Heart for first kill? My buddy got one from 1 try.

[rose jewel]

what is shilling, is that a young people thing and im too old to understand? is it silver? gold? resources? what is your ultimate goal

[silver rain]

Shilling = silver

[rose jewel]

i had no idea that meant that

[silver rain]

You barely get enough silver for gem rerolling at Verns levels

[shy yarrow]

you can transfer gems to any character and reroll them to work on that character

[rose jewel]

if the account is new you cant even reroll gems, you need yorn done anyway

[shy yarrow]

oh right

[wispy oak]

acc is not new, is 1470, but char I need is new

[rose jewel]

after that, yeah i guess you can reroll and ... probably make profit?

[shy yarrow]

maybe with pet you can but never thought about it

[rose jewel]

but why do you need a new char, silver is rosterwide

[wispy oak]

I will give a try for 600 gold, nice Idea

[rose jewel]

unless its to reroll to that class' skills

[wispy oak]

no, the point is on my acc 2 mil shilling left and reroll cost 300k+, already wasted 6mil

[silver rain]

Pretty sure you still need Final Report for gem reroll even with pet fuction

[shy yarrow]

rerolling gems is a bad idea with anything above 5s

even then, not really a good idea

[rose jewel]

even lv7s i think twice before commiting a click

if you already wasted 6mil on rerolling, and the other acc has 2mil silver, what makes you think you will get it, you may or may not

[wispy oak]

other acc has 50mil, mine as 2mil and from now I need do daily on alts for next content cant waste anymore

[rose jewel]

go ahead then, gl in life, hope you're not bankrupt on silver for that instead of selling the gem and buying the correct one

even if you pay a bit more

[wispy oak]

you cant find my gem lv9 in au

[silver rain]

I don't think so I think it is relatively an easy drop but there's people with worse rng so 🤷‍♂️

[wispy oak]

I play demonic on perfect suppression in late game, not anymore dem form

[dapper geyser]

is there special bonus roster XP for 100%ing a collectible?

[shy yarrow]

theres achievements that give some roster xp for igneas but not a single collectible no

[wispy oak]

ye pet say I need this quest already now, so prolly its impossible to do without a new ticket

[hollow quiver]

i hate these goddam bots.

[rose jewel]

dont hate the bots, hate the mf people that rmt, those are the culprits

no people willing to buy gold from bots = no bots

but guess what, people are fucking cheap and want everything for much lower cost, so between botters making millions of accounts and amazon/smiley being bad at combating them, these are the results

[dapper geyser]

that ain't a very good take chief

[buoyant herald]

how so ? its the only good take there is

[dapper geyser]

cheaper prices being made available inevitably results in ppl buying it

[rose jewel]

lol, no

[dapper geyser]

it's like saying "we wouldn't need garbage men if nobody littered". But ppl are always gonna litter. Doesn't mean it's a good thing, but it's a firm reality

[rose jewel]

i have never and will never buy from those people, if i want something i go to the F4 store, buy a pack of 2 or 5k royals and spend them, everything legally

[dapper geyser]

I mean the ONLY reason I don't RMT is that it's bannable lol

[rose jewel]

good take chief

[south lintel]

Obviously as long as RMT is possible there will be some people that do it. That doesn't absolve them of their culpability in being the true source of the problem though

[rose jewel]

the littering example is actually bad btw, no offense

[buoyant herald]

its only a 3 day ban totally worht it just go and rmt

[dapper geyser]

root cause > bots, not doodles who RMT

[south lintel]

I was gonna say garbage men don't pick up litter

[dapper geyser]

in a lot of european countries, they do. it's a separate job :)

[rose jewel]

so its illegal to have/throw garbage now or what was the example

anyway i dont wanna be hated, so yeah, the problem is people RMTing, that's the core

[buoyant herald]

not to add to his point but literring is actually illegal

[rose jewel]

combined with EAC being total shit and not doing work and just slowing down the game

[full quiver]

at lvl 50 my focus should be finishing the story and starting daily chaos dungeon and what else?

[rose jewel]

i meant having garbage and putting in in a bag/trash can but yeah english bad me dum lol

[south lintel]

If anyone thinks that the people buying RMT gold are not ultimately responsible for the problem they are either incredibly short sighted or high on

[south lintel]

Do islands to get honing mats and push ilevel

[dapper geyser]

If AGS adopts this mentality, gl solving the issue :p

[shy yarrow]

rmt gold buyers not getting banned or essentially getting slaps on the wrist just means they keep doing it

[rose jewel]

chaos dungeon, guardian raids and una's tasks are your go-to homework things imo

[shy yarrow]

targetting bots with ban waves does absolutely nothing since they just make more accounts and do the same shit to get gold

[buoyant herald]

if they just perma the rmters they will quit and also will serve as a warning to other whales
ags just doesn wanna lose the big spenders

[rose jewel]

yep, imagine RMTing for 1 or 2 or 10M gold, getting 3 day or 1 week or 1 month banned... worth ;D

[dapper geyser]

This is true

[ripe sedge]

Hey, I see we have the bed mount... wondering how it looks in action?

[rose jewel]

? how come you agree with him but when i said the same you told me no

[south lintel]

Bots need to be banned before they can generate or at least transfer gold. That's the only way banning is effective

Unless of course you use bans to make potential RMTers scared enough that they won't risk it

[dapper geyser]

The problem is you cannot reliably target RMTers with a solid algorithm so it's pretty much a waste of time to focus on RMT transactions themselves since they're just about the easiest part of the whole thing to loophole around

[rose jewel]

anyway i dont think i wanna talk more about it coz im always wrong and i do bad takes

[south lintel]

But supposedly there's previous cases that prove perma banning RMTers isn't an effective solution? IDK

[shy yarrow]

the root problem isnt bots its the gold they generate and sell, but ags looks at bot ban waves like a solution instead of a bandaid, like every "fix" they try

[south lintel]

I agree with you 100%. RMTers are the issue

[dapper geyser]

Banning detected bots every now and then is useless, having a solid system that continuously bans bots as soon as they start work solves the issue

[rose jewel]

well, ofc

[ripe sedge]

We need to look at why people RMT and address that issue so people won't feel the urge to RMT

[dapper geyser]

That's BY FAR the worst take

[shy yarrow]

not possible, there will always be bots in f2p games. restricting how they ruin the game is the only way to get a handle on the problem

[south lintel]

As long as RMT gold is cheaper than legal gold, people will always RMT if they think they can get away with it

[rose jewel]

because botting and selling is profitable, always will be, they create thousands and millions of accounts, it takes them nothing and they get big bucks

[ripe sedge]

Do people RMT cuz of book and acc prices? Cuz of honing prices?

Make those cheaper, then less RMT

[rose jewel]

that's indeed a very bad take my boy veri

[shy yarrow]

its a win for both parties, seller and buyer

[south lintel]

First of all, how can SG "make things cheaper?" Second, that will just give RMTers more purchasing power, not reduce their incentive to RMT lol

[ripe sedge]

What do you suggest is the "why" people RMT?

[dapper geyser]

What? Bot/cheat detection is in place in a shit ton of f2p games and it works perfectly

[shy yarrow]

honing costs are minimal compared to the price to empty the market to keep throwing mats at the table

[dapper geyser]

Address the reason why ppl steal. Let the government give away free money to everyone 👍

[south lintel]

[ripe sedge]

For me, the reason I'd be tempted to RMT is to buy 20 yellow class books that would cost 300k, or buy 5 good accs that are 100k - 200k each. That's at least a million gold right there.

[shy yarrow]

bots arent always cheating, theyre running scripts to complete the basic quests and tasks needed to generate gold

[rose jewel]

gold is an extremely powerful thing in this game, you get enough to keep honing at a normal rate weekly with things you get gold from, legions, abyss, etc etc, you get it for free, but people always want more, and if they can get it for 1/10th the price... even if they know its illegal, they want things ez and cheap

[dapper geyser]

Which in most cases is considered cheating?

[shy yarrow]

if you take a bot and a real player who has completed the story 2 times and throw them together good luck finding out which is which

[south lintel]

So you've established that you're willing to RMT in this hypothetical. If they lower costs, now you can RMT and do even more with that gold, or just buy less RMT gold

[misty dome]

hey guys, one question about Propulsion Engraving, what exactly counts as movement skills? Is it only mobility exclusive or any dmg skill with movement built in?

[full quiver]

bots have always been a thing. I used to encounter bots in mmos 15 years ago, the only solution is for the game to not be free 2 play. Even making it costs 1 euro / dollar would be a valid solution

[shy yarrow]

you view cheating differently to me then, scripts dont fit my definition of cheating unless it gives an advantage that others cant obtain

[rose jewel]

my point stands strong, you want things ez and fast and right now, instead of using your time resource to get those overtime slowly

[dapper geyser]

It's not gonna look like party finder on the devs' side lol

[south lintel]

They effectively did this by requiring Trusted Status or whatever on Steam. Did nothing

[rose jewel]

i believe its your spacebar

[south lintel]

The cost needs to be higher than the potential return for the bot

[dapper geyser]

Movement skill only refers to spacebar in this game. No dashes from skills count

[woven totem]

really so fcking annoying

[rose jewel]

and the question is?

[misty dome]

ah rip, seems kinda a waste of a definition

[ripe sedge]

I earn about 50k gold a week, needing to ride 6 Argos / 6 Valtan HM / 6 Vykas HM buses, plus selling chaos gate mats and adventure island gold.

50k x 20 weeks = 1 million gold.

So 20 weeks to gear up a char properly at that rate.

Then what about 5 alts? Thats 100 more weeks.

[shy yarrow]

i meant you, as a player, can not tell the difference, since theyre just completing the story and walking around

[dapper geyser]

Yeah I thought it was like in poe where skills that make u move count but nah. Woulda been nice tho

[dim pebble]

where to report bus scammer

[rose jewel]

so you want to 5x3 BiS all your alts? how the fk are you gonna generate gold for main

[shy yarrow]

bots in raids and chaos still look more like players than some actual players do in lower levels

[dapper geyser]

When they're walking in the same line in 50s, you really can lol. Can't see why that's important tho xd

[south lintel]

I never said getting top tier builds was fast, cheap, or easy. This completely ignores my point from before

[shy yarrow]

because detecting a bot from a player is not something i see ags succeeding at

[rose jewel]

you can try reporting them to amazon, but imo they wont do shit about it, post the info everywhere, reddit, forums, bus discords. You can try sending a report tho, maybe a miracle will happen

[dapper geyser]

ingame report is your best bet

[full quiver]

my friend doesn't have 2fa or bought games recently, i dont even know if he has any steam games at all and he can use the market and trade and everything so maybe those bot accounts were done before these regulations? or there's a way around this problem.. but making the game cost literally only 1 euro would fix the bot problems since making 100 bot accounts would be a pretty risky investment if they get banned but i know its not gonna happen, just my 2 cents

[dim pebble]

Is there a thing like blacklist discord tho?

[rose jewel]

1 buck for the game is extremely cheap, that wont hurt them in the slightest, they generate a LOT more than 1 buck from that botted account

[muted verge]

the only good solution at this point is locking all servers after a banwave

[dapper geyser]

Well they're meant to be using software tools, not looking at them like csgo overwatch xd

[rose jewel]

no such thing here, but there is in bus discords i guess, try to find your region's bus disc

[south lintel]

You can prevent this issue by charging for the game, but 1 euro is far too low. I don't know how much a bot account makes on average in any given period of time, but if bot farmers think they can make X amount of Money in Y amount of time, but it costs Z < X to make that account, it's a worthwhile investment for them to continue botting

[dapper geyser]

That would actually work pretty well except it would probably make the experience SHIT for new players since they'll practically be in an all-bot server lol

[river crypt]

do you get to transfer hoaning from legendary weapon to relic?

[muted verge]

the experience is already shit for new players.. locking servers while amazon invests in some good bot-prevention systems is the only way i see this eventually resolving

[rose jewel]

i would pay once 10 to 20 bucks for the game no problem if that means much less bots

[rose jewel]

yes 1:1

[river crypt]

thats great, thanks

[muted verge]

new players cant use markets, cant do life skills, cant find parties, and thats just what i can think off the top of my head right now

[dapper geyser]

You're not wrong, they've been working on it for about a fucking year now and honestly I could have given ags like 3 names that could solve the issue for good in a month lol. Idk tho maybe they're piling up some huge data for an air tight fix 🤷‍♂️

[south lintel]

What are those names?

[rose jewel]

why didnt you

[dapper geyser]

Doxing is not nice lmao

[south lintel]

Ah, so there are no names, like I thought

[rose jewel]

figured

[south lintel]

Because there is no easy fix for a problem like this

[rose jewel]

if there was an ez fix, they more than probably would have done it by now

[dapper geyser]

I just said it as a joke bc I know ppl in robotics who are very skilled etf is wrong with u?

[muted verge]

its just a shame amazon will never actually lock the servers due to fear of losing out on profits

[dapper geyser]

No shit

[rose jewel]

well duh

[south lintel]

Jokes are supposed to be funny, or at least seem like there was an attempt to make them funny. So I didn't recognize it as a joke

[muted verge]

lets not be pedantic about jokes right now considering we are all having a debate in the lost ark help channel

[dapper geyser]

Avg discord person response I guess

Sometimes I regret this fkn app smh

[rose jewel]

he is angry, and he is a turtle, he is above average in my book

[south lintel]

Lmao you made a BS claim, got called out and now you're getting defensive

[dapper geyser]

Ok bro lol

[south lintel]

[rose jewel]

wasnt i the one with bad takes? tables have turned

[muted verge]

jesus u guy are weird just drop it

[rose jewel]

being weird is good wdym

[dapper geyser]

Thank god I have a life jesus christ bye

[rose jewel]

his life is called lost ark

[muted verge]

https://tenor.com/view/lost-ark-lost-ark-ass-hot-gif-24890123

[rose jewel]

howdy, you are weird

welcome to the club bro

[coral umbra]

If I enter chaos dungeon and leave before killing anything will I lose rest bonus?

[muted verge]

have to do something while i stare at these floors

[south lintel]

Good question. I think so? Not 100% though

[rose jewel]

iirc for chaos dungeon yes

[ripe sedge]

You mentioned that "RMT and do even more with that gold, or buy less RMT gold"

I was using the costs as an example why people would want to RMT. Who wants to wait 100 weeks to gear up their roster? LA might be dead before then (2 years from now).

Anyways, back to your point, your second point is what I was trying to drive at. "less RMT needed if stuff was cheaper". Then fewer bots / RMT'ers / ban waves / etc.

[shy yarrow]

pretty sure the moment you are inside you lose it

[muted verge]

one thing im happy and surprised to note is you can rejoin a chaos dungeon if you dc midway without losing entry

im not sure if thats only if your solo though

[rose jewel]

you can, if you make it before the 5 minutes timer

[muted verge]

did they ever do anything about people holding hostage at the next portal vote?

[rose jewel]

if the game closes due to the dc or error or w/e, you're fucked

no they didnt, that's why the recommendation is to solo chaos dun

[south lintel]

If SG manipulates the market to lower costs but does nothing to attack bots or dis-incentivize players from buying RMT gold, it will not impact the actual issue UNLESS you make all costs so excessively low that everyone is running around with BIS everything and then you have a whole new issue

[muted verge]

Thats a nice assumption, but thats not the case at all, im talking bout the long run, Im working and barely play a few hours a day atm, its just the idea if i still need to work on the chars, I feel like they shud give some char slots for free instead of making that a pay only option, and on top of that , a player spending time on a game is almost just as important as someone who spends on a game , because it is part of what makes the game grow, regardless if its player count, or the whales to feel like theyre in an environment where they can compare to others to make their money feel more worth

[south lintel]

That reply came way too fast for how long it is

Is that a copy pasta?

[rose jewel]

do you know our honing is/was around 3 times cheaper compared to kr in our western launch? do you know they made it even more cheap nowadays with some things added like silver instead of gold for crafting?

[muted verge]

yes, i have to credit the original guy whos probably long quit by now

[rose jewel]

how much cheaper you want it to be, besides, you know that market prices are driven by the community right?

[muted verge]

i dont see many people talk about the crazy gold to blue crystal ratio, that has gotten absurd now

they make it impossible for new players to buy crystal auras now it feels like

[flat dagger]

Crystal Aura is useless, you won't change my mind on that.

[muted verge]

that is a bait right

[south lintel]

Surely

[muted verge]

these literally have infinite value

[flat dagger]

There is a single benefit that I have any use for, pet functions, that's it.

[south lintel]

And that alone is enormous lmao tf

[flat dagger]

Not really no.

[south lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh424019499-gif-25675566

[muted verge]

so ur just a vertical player who hasnt done horizontal content yet, i guess

[flat dagger]

Are you for real?

[frosty glacier]

If you don't play too much it can be useless

[muted verge]

i am for real

[frosty glacier]

If you play and care about a lot of stuff you just can't consider it useless

[muted verge]

otherwise you would not call 2 bifrost slots plus all that other stuff useless

[ripe sedge]

Silver for crafting honing stuff instead of gold? Don't think I've seen honing stuff cost silver (Oreha stones crafting for example)

Sorry if I'm missing something here.

[flat dagger]

#lost-ark-help message

[muted verge]

as a life skiller 10% more regeneration is huge too over time

[ripe sedge]

Just trying to figure out how to deal with the root of "why people wanna RMT" or "why need bots to fill RMT needs" kinda stuff.

[muted verge]

well that explains it then? you already finished your horizontal content so the value isnt as high as it would be for a new player

[frosty glacier]

What are you on about dude

[muted verge]

i dont see how u can call it useless though

[flat dagger]

It's not worth the gold at all, you're better off using it for progression.

[south lintel]

Simple: people want to RMT to have better stuff faster than they could otherwise. The only way to change the "why" of RMT is to give everyone everything and then you killed the game in a whole different way

[pale epoch]

Should I bring the most expensive gold pack with una's tokens?

[south lintel]

That's generally agreed upon as best, yes

[maiden locust]

always for the gamba

[muted verge]

yeah that was more my point, the gold required these days is just too much. it was much more accessible when you could pickup 95bc for <100 gold

[rose jewel]

middle box is very very slightly more consistent gold over time, but big box has gamba big bar, so big is better 😄

[snow hinge]

It’s a gamble you can take

[flat dagger]

I've never had a giant bar in 7 months

[frosty glacier]

There is a big difference in calling something "useless" instead of "overpriced"

[flat dagger]

The perks are for lazy people who don't plan ahead, and a lot of the perks become literally useless end-game.

[rose jewel]

me neither, but big is big, and gamba dopamine

[river crypt]

is it worth hoaning legendary gear pass level 15 or better wait relic?

[flat dagger]

You have to.

[rose jewel]

you need to

[flat dagger]

How else are you reaching 1445?

The convertion level is also 1:1 anyway.

[rose jewel]

you can not get relic gear at 1415, that's for 1445, 1415 only nets you a legendary legion commander set, which is not bad but dont go for it imo

honing stays the same, and you need to go for at least +20 for the next soft reset with brel relic 2.0

[muted verge]

do the ancient stuff come with brelly

[flat dagger]

Accessories yes, but not gear.

[shadow laurel]

anyone has issues accessing market?

[muted verge]

yes bot ddos, probably fixed next week

[maiden locust]

brel hard

[flat dagger]

Wait, no ancient accessories from normal?

[maiden locust]

no both

[shadow laurel]

ahh okay Thanks

[maiden locust]

no its from hard

[flat dagger]

Shit, my bad. At least we get relic bracelets.

[maiden locust]

yup

[humble maple]

I've reduced my item level to 1414, however item level 1415 notification still persists. Will I be able to claim bonus chest?

[flat dagger]

Earned item level still persists.

You can't play the system like that

[humble maple]

Damn shame.

[winter sedge]

Would my life be miserable first-timing Valtan at 1422

[muted verge]

1414 for a year while i finish the mokoko challenge first

[maiden locust]

nah

[flat dagger]

Not really no.

[distant lark]

do relic bracelets need 1490 to equip or just drop and can be bought with the other relics at 1415?

[maiden locust]

your over ilvl so it should be fine

[maiden locust]

1490

[flat dagger]

Probably 1490 trade restricted yea.

[winter sedge]

Pretty sure he's just 1415 so not crazy but im sure to no surprise im being gatekept from groups

[distant lark]

thanks

[muted verge]

isnt there hardcore gatekeeping with legion raids? is over ilvl all you would need

[fringe sedge]

hey how did u guys learn vykas? im a new player and it is so hard to find a learning team

[flat dagger]

Guild here.

[maiden locust]

watch a guide and join a normal group undercover

[rose jewel]

guild on week 1

[fringe sedge]

haha nice [lan

[maiden locust]

kinda yeah

[winter sedge]

That's how I learned Argos xD

[rose jewel]

for new players, you need to either find a guild, find a learning party or make a learning party yourself

[maiden locust]

thats how i learned all raids lol

[winter sedge]

That's usually how I got about it in every game with raids I just watch a video and pray I don't throw

[humble maple]

It means I will need to wait 2 whole weeks to get Empyrean Dawn for 2 more armor parts =_=

[rose jewel]

the only bad thing in this game is

if you dont really know the raid very well, even if you already cleared it once (most likely floor pov), and YOU DONT FUCKING SPEAK A SINGLE WORD, people gonna kick your ass out

[maiden locust]

you have full legendary set?

[humble maple]

nope, only 4 legendary +17 and 2 purple +15

[rose jewel]

if you actually speak up and say "sorry im not that good yet" or w/e in a good manner, people will more than likely help you and tell you what to do

[maiden locust]

do argos for the other 2

[fringe sedge]

true

[muted verge]

most people think the opposite, speaking up draws attention to themself and thus higher chance of being booted

[humble maple]

will it be enough?

[winter sedge]

Is argos only 1370 at every gate now

[maiden locust]

yes

[acoustic trail]

problem is every run is saying its only for experienced,

[rose jewel]

you've been thru some shitty groups ngl

[winter sedge]

k i gotta do the other 2

[muted verge]

i can go deathless and still be called floordps on account of my class

[maiden locust]

good luck finding a group for just p2.3

[winter sedge]

I haven't done the first gate on my main yet

[rose jewel]

that's why you find a group that's not "alt run 160 roster+ clown title"

[maiden locust]

yes if you buy the boxes

[winter sedge]

and, when people say p3 in party finder what does that mean

[muted verge]

gate 3

[fringe sedge]

problem about ;earning teams is that they dont complete the raid or gate before people start to leave

[maiden locust]

they are going for all gates

[rose jewel]

for argos is gate 3, aka all the raid in one go, for legions is either all gates or strictly g3 coz they got gated

[winter sedge]

And for Valtan, people say orbs then wei, I saw a video on the wei cheese but what do they mean by orbs

cause isnt that all in the first gate

[maiden locust]

the orb mech

[rose jewel]

that's why the best learning parties are structured by vets and newbies, 50/50 being best

[maiden locust]

it is yes

[winter sedge]

all these games have their own slang in lfg and I can't keep up when i'm new lol

[acoustic trail]

its just not realistic finding one of these though 😔

[muted verge]

isnt there a part in gate 1 where you have to split up and damage a specific boss

[hushed geyser]

if i gear a transfer a piece of set with the +2 from kuku will the +2 remain in my new piece?????

[rose jewel]

there have been some people in reddit doing god's work and preparing learning runs, i saw one dude doing weeklies, probably not 50/50 but still good enough, you have a vet player, a streamer and voice coms, its way way easier that way to learn

[muted verge]

the gear transfer ui should show you what level the new piece will be come if you arent sure beforehand

[hushed geyser]

im worried about the lvl2 bonus of the piece

[maiden locust]

it will show you, the lvl of the bonus

[rose jewel]

you get the old piece at 0 qual, 0 honing and +2 set, reduce it and you get trumpets back (iirc)

if you mean you're transfering a relic to another relic

in which case i ask you "Why", are you recrafting to increase quality? please dont, use quality upgrade npc

[fringe sedge]

btw any euc guild that does raids together>? there is just me and myself in my guild

[maiden locust]

you will learn fast enough

[rose jewel]

leave that thing and find something here #guild-recruitment #979605141697224744 #na-west-guild-recruitment (of your region)

[muted verge]

do guild ranks only go newbie > guildmate > officer > deputy?

[timber elk]

is it worth pushing alts to 1445 if you dont have relic set ready for them?

[maiden locust]

sure

[buoyant herald]

if you hit 1445 / 60 you get the sets waaaaaaay faster so sure is worth it

takes 3 weeks if you run hms / more than twice if you run normals since you cant buy the box at the end probably like a week or 2 more not sure what it maths outs to

[timber elk]

should I be buying boxes on them then?

[maiden locust]

if you want the set faster yes

[buoyant herald]

having the relic set makes playing a looot more fun on most classes

for the ones that it doesn't change much it gives a huge damage boost

[timber elk]

yeah I got a BT zerker and not having dominion feels really bad

[buoyant herald]

yeah so just push

for dom and nightmare classes its quite the game changer

[rose jewel]

wardancer at tier 1 be like 🐢

[umbral mist]

do we save cube tickets for the push from lvl 59-60? or just boss rush tickets

[rose jewel]

main? use them, you cant get help
alt? yeah probably

[umbral mist]

its an alt

[rose jewel]

then the later

[limpid flare]

its not possible to change hyper express event character ?

[maiden locust]

yes but only one time

[limpid flare]

where is the option cause i cant see it D.

[maiden locust]

send a screenie pls

[river crypt]

can you sell mount after you already used it?

and a pet

[timber elk]

whats the logic for getting 21 wep when pushing 1490

[radiant flame]

you can leave armour at 19 for the biggest ilvl upgrade when you convert to brel gear

your weapon is upgraded last because it needs the most brel mats

weapon upgrade also gives most damage

so, all of those reasons

[limpid flare]

thank uuuu

[severe vapor]

why phantom palace is so hard

i literally died like 20 times

[shy chasm]

the abyssal dungeon?

or the story quest dungeon

[severe vapor]

story quest

in rohendel

[shy chasm]

you'd prob die id imagine not its not that hard either

[severe vapor]

i do like max 2k damage and normal is 50

1 phase took me decades

[shy chasm]

well ye the phase one boss has a lot of health but its 1000% doable solo

[muted verge]

whats ur ilvl? if your running the dungeon on normal mode it shouldnt be too hard

[severe vapor]

i ran it hard mode ig it was a mistake

item level 560

[muted verge]

hm u should be over level for it a bit, you can always come back for hard mode later if you want the extra mats

[severe vapor]

k

[copper nest]

Hi everyone. So I literally just created my char. Deathblade

Any tips ? Or for now just follow story until …? (What?)

Thanks a lot 🙂

[severe vapor]

bro i literally do 50 damage in this dungeon i have no idea how its possible

[rose jewel]

broken gear, repair your shit with silver

[rose jewel]

for the first many hours in the game, you will just do the story until you cant anymore basically, that leveling process is just seen as a very big and long tutorial to get the feeling of the game, the fighting and all that

once you hit combat level 50 a lot of things open up, until then, enjoy the story

[copper nest]

I see. thanks a lot

I did see a lot of skills opened up for a lvl 1... seems both overwhelming and enjoyable

[wet pelican]

Hello guys i have a question about Surge deathblade. I have remaining energy deathblade and each orb means higher dmg. It is the same with Surge, i mean if you active surge and hold to stack the balls slowly depletes, so if the 1 orb depletes surge would deal lower damage then? Or for surge it doesnt matter? Sorry for my english

[rose jewel]

you can try out combinations and all that, but if you wanna be efficient, there are leveling guides over at maxroll.gg telling you what skills to use and what to level up, so you have a way easier time

[maiden locust]

sig wanna watch a movie w me?

[mellow mauve]

it the same for surge except the orbs delepting doesn't matter

[rose jewel]

huh?

[maiden locust]

movie

[wet pelican]

so it is working just like a timer yeah?

[mellow mauve]

yeah

[severe vapor]

oh damn

[copper nest]

btw, I have this chest: Legendary Engraving Recipe selection chest. Which do I choose? remaining energy engrvaing or surge engrvaing

[rose jewel]

uhh, i feel honored you ask me but... sorry no, im at work

[severe vapor]

thanks i was so suprised that i do literally 20 damage

[shy chasm]

Do you want to play surge or re?

[maiden locust]

oh ok have a nice day then, it's 1am for me rn

[copper nest]

ah sweet. Can I find it easily for deathblade?

[rose jewel]

6pm, in the middle of my shift

[severe vapor]

how do i repair the gear tho

[copper nest]

idk the difference

[shy chasm]

One is sustain dps one is burst

[wet pelican]

ty for the quick answer ❤️

[rose jewel]

either with your pet selecting repair from the pet menu (you need crystalline aura for that) or going to a mayor city and looking for the repair npc

[shy chasm]

So depends which playstyle you like

[severe vapor]

thanks

[rose jewel]

for now since you wont have any engravings, just follow the leveling guide at maxroll.gg, later on you can think of that, enjoy the game first

[shy chasm]

[copper nest]

hmmmm

[copper nest]

I see. Thanks a lot

I will look for the guide rn before I continue the story

[crisp turtle]

I'd put the selection bag back into storage, and wait till you decide what you want to do
Having one or two legendary books does nothing for you right now
Better to save them until you know what you're doing

[copper nest]

I guess access to storage comes later on in the story?

[rose jewel]

there should be some npcs that lets you use the storage around, as soon as you get into prideholme

[copper nest]

got it 🙂

[crisp turtle]

I'm confused
How do you even have a legendary selection if you're still doing the story

[rose jewel]

so, look at any mayor city, luterra castle, prideholme, or rest spots

wait who got leggo selector?

[upbeat lynx]

anyone has any idea how to do the new tripod system

[rose jewel]

you press K and select your tripods, profit

[upbeat lynx]

i mean with the amulets

[copper nest]

I guess a new player offer?

[rose jewel]

go to tripod npc, select tripod you wanna learn, fail attempt to learn it, if you fail it goes poof like always

[torpid stratus]

Whats the damned chance for the pet enhancement tokens? I get only 1 every time and it says 1-10??? I opened like 10 boxes and only 1 each time wtf

[crisp turtle]

Put it away somewhere and don't worry about it
It's super useful a long way into the future, but does nothing for you now

[solar knoll]

yeah you roll them, you can pick 1/3 of the upgrades, and pay some silver for a chance at getting it saved permanently:
level 2 has 100% chance of success
level 3 50%
level 4 25%
and level 5 I assume is 12.5% but I haven't gotten there yet

[rose jewel]

instead of hero gear we get amulets, that's literally the only change, and instead of tripods on your gear or inventory, you select it from the skill menu K, its extremely simplified

[muted verge]

oh you dont have to drop the tripod you want anymore? you can just try to learn any

[rose jewel]

10% double with powder at 20%

[solar knoll]

yeah you can learn all of them to max, but only have +18 active at a time

[copper nest]

alright 😄

[buoyant herald]

ii have 3 legendary pet and still only got more than 1 only once (it was a 7 ) but still the boxes suck ass

[muted verge]

is dropping them still an option or is the only way to get tripods from amulet system now

[solar knoll]

oh damn it's only 10% for lvl5?? that is rude

[buoyant herald]

well you can drop the amulets

[muted verge]

uh it used to be 5% for lvl 5 didnt it

[solar knoll]

the amulets are the new drops

[rose jewel]

10% was with powder before, you got 2x the chance compared to before

[buoyant herald]

yeah and its now 10 x 2 with powder

[shy yarrow]

lvl 4s are 50% with powder, lvl 5s are 20% with

[solar knoll]

oh powder doubles the chance?

[rose jewel]

20% is not the best yeah but well, its a huge powerspike, gotta limit you some way or another

[muted verge]

cool, tripod system sounds funner now

[torpid stratus]

Holy fuck its annoying, and the cookies are so slow to gather. Ima exchange damned relic rapport items for vitameows and then put mfers on to grind cookies for 10 days straight

[shy yarrow]

yea

[rose jewel]

and i literally just said you get 10 base and 20 with powder :c

[upbeat lynx]

but tripod builds stay the same as last time right

[shy yarrow]

its ok signum

[solar knoll]

I never used the old tripod system but the small bit I learned about it sounded just hella clunky and confusing

[buoyant herald]

🙃 dont use relics but yeah i used to farm mechants and trade it all for the pet food so they go 24/7

[torpid stratus]

Wdym farm merchants?

[rose jewel]

tripod system now is extremely simplified, ez to learn and get into, didnt change the limit which is 18 tripods per skill build, its just easier to get into overall

[solar knoll]

yeah

[rose jewel]

you still will be getting them from chaos dungeon and all that

[solar knoll]

the new system was way easy to learn as a new player

[rose jewel]

and if you wanna rush lv5s you can look for them at the AH, pty sure they are way cheaper than before

[solar knoll]

I just went to npc and clicked buttons and it just made sense immediately

[rose jewel]

ofc not ignoring pheon cost

[muted verge]

if i understand correctly once you learn a tripod from an amulet its permanent? you can apply it to any gear forever

[crisp turtle]

The old system wasn't exactly complex
This just gives you a lot more flexibility, like a lot more

[solar knoll]

yes

[rose jewel]

ye

[solar knoll]

it's not even applied to gear now

it's just applied directly in the skill window

[rose jewel]

besides, with the old system, it was extremely hard, or plain impossible to switch some tripods on the fly mid raid, now you can do it whenever

[solar knoll]

yeah

[muted verge]

ohh nice

[solar knoll]

you can set different mass presets with different tripods easypeasy

[rose jewel]

chaos dungeons are way easier with skill dealing more dmg, saving frames there

[solar knoll]

or even just skill presets

and they also seem to drop like crazy

not sure if they also did that before

[buoyant herald]

wandering mechants spawn around the world at 30 min of each hour for 25 minutes they always have a purple rapport gift with a low chance of legendary gift can use https://lostmerchants.com/ to track their locations aswell as their shop contents

[solar knoll]

or go to #941175805487235112 to set up discord spam from a bot

[muted verge]

theres also chance for you to find free epic gifts in the world, some spawn in prideholme and croconys seashore but bots probably farm them on spawn

[torpid stratus]

Alright thanks

[ripe sedge]

Whats with "changing price"

There were 33k "units" up for sale when I managed to search for the guardian stones. How TF does 33k units disappear in like 5 seconds to "change" the price?

[rustic oracle]

why I cant buy?

[muted verge]

33k units would be 330k stones right?

[ripe sedge]

yes

[muted verge]

sounds like bots decided to start honing or a whale is gearing up their alts

[ripe sedge]

and it happened again, 32k on my previous screenshot, I went to buy 999 units (10k stones), game says "partial purchase" and I only got 270?

[muted verge]

some gold has a cooldown until you can purchase crystals or use it in auction house i believe

[ripe sedge]

and 999 is the max you can buy

[rustic oracle]

?? wdym

so like I can only buy stuff that are max 999 gold?

[muted verge]

its new to me as well, but im pretty sure if you buy gold with royal crystals you have to wait 3 days until you can use it in auction house or to buy blue crystals

[rustic oracle]

icic

[ripe sedge]

I get all my gold from raids and stuff

not one gold from RC / BC

a 3rd partial purchase of only 300 when I wanted 999... and there were 35k in stock this time

getting fking annoying

[rose jewel]

withheld gold, if you get gold directly from selling royals the gold is freezed for 3 days before being able to use it for player-to-player transactions, open your inventory and over your gold, it tells you how much and time left

[muted verge]

by the way, 9k for 475 bc? in na west that would be 16k lol damn

[rose jewel]

the total amount of the stones doesnt mean they are all packed together, some people sell a stack of 3000 stones, some other 150, some other the full 9999, at least i believe that's how it works, you'll rarely buy full 9999 stacks

[rustic oracle]

wait so all the gold you get from like raids and stuff they have cooldown before u can use it?

[rose jewel]

if you get gold directly from selling royals

[mighty linden]

whats the best way to get to lvl 60 main is at 55

[radiant flame]

playing the game

no point worrying about combat level

[mighty linden]

oh lol

[rose jewel]

gonna take months, dont think about it

[mighty linden]

just wanted more sp

[rose jewel]

so does everyone, but again, gonna take months

do your stuff daily, chaos, guardians, weekly things, use boss rush and cube tix, all that jazz

[buoyant herald]

alts go a lot faster can hit 60 in like a month

[rustic oracle]

??? I didnt though

[radiant flame]

do the horizontal stuff for your sp potions

thats a much more useful way to spend your time

[rose jewel]

where did you get that gold from then, una's tokens?

[buoyant cypress]

is it worth honing hrsh oath 5-piece set to +17 to get 1415 this week vs waiting til next reset & upgrading weapon to harsh oath w/ argos blood and honing that?

[buoyant herald]

shouldnt get argos wep in general

[rose jewel]

why do you even have 5 set argos in the first place

[copper nest]

in-game where can I check which server I am at?

[buoyant cypress]

thats what i read too Tank so prob worth it then yea?

[rose jewel]

first, you dont need more than 2 pc argos set, the 5 set you need to find someone to combo it with, no one uses 5set anymore.
Second, you dont craft argos weapon ever

[buoyant cypress]

why wouldnt I Sig?

[buoyant herald]

its really not just rush for relic set

[rose jewel]

waste of materials, specifically g.h.leapstones, argos blood dismantles for a lot of those

you get 4pc legendary chosen set from abyss dungeon, then you complete the 6 with 2 argos set, that's the strat nowadays, cheaper, faster, easier

[buoyant cypress]

I see o_O didn't know. I just followed a guide online. New player :c .. trying to get 1415 to start getting into relic

[buoyant herald]

its outdated

[rose jewel]

yeah dont worry, you didnt brick your account or anything, its just a bit more resources used, most guides are outdated af

[buoyant cypress]

Damn. Ok - I was dumb then & now have 5 piece argos w/ epic weapon from abyss dung and only 14/15 emp dawn to upgrade xd

[pseudo atlas]

which guide did you look at actually?

[buoyant cypress]

I usd maxroll early but then found an excel doc on reddit that was recommended :L

[rose jewel]

never trust reddit yeah most guides there are outdated

[buoyant cypress]

loool yeah TIL 😛

[rose jewel]

the problem is that the patch has been live for 2 weeks, and it changed quite a lot of things

[buoyant cypress]

I see. So basically at this point, just do abyss dngeon to get the 1 empyrean dawn (lol) i need at reset, make legendary weapon and then hone it to 1415 and start working toward relic gear?

[buoyant herald]

dont stop at 1415 if you are using express shouldnt be too hard

try to hit 1430 so you can start working on vykas mats asap

[muted verge]

is there a way to preview the full list of rewards ?

[buoyant herald]

its all garbage anyway except the heart ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[buoyant cypress]

Okay. Only have the argos set, is it silly to hone that up? Or should I transition back to the chaos dung gear if i can?

[muted verge]

tarsila is an example, but other bosses and raids have the same problem with not showing all rewards

[buoyant cypress]

& I just keepp honing the gear I have right? until I get gear from valtan?

[buoyant herald]

what no just hone whatever you have as far as you can

yellow gear transfers into relic 1:1

[buoyant cypress]

Oh ok I didnt know if argos gear cost more to hone than leg abyss gear for example

[pseudo atlas]

chaos dungeon gear stops at 1370, argos and abyss dungeon and valtan legendary and vykas legendary gear and valtan relic and vykas relic are all the same ilvl, there's no difference in honing costs only in crafting costs

[buoyant cypress]

Ahh ok gotcha! Thanks guys

[hollow quiver]

Are bots snipping the gem postings on the market? Was doing a bus with a friend on call and he told me the gem i needed to buy ( so we were the only ones aware of the gem type ) and immediately there was another post for an exact same gem and the one my friend had posted had a bid on it so it changed the default price making the other person gem look like the one i should buy

[buoyant herald]

🤯 thats crazy
makes sense why the market is not working

[hollow quiver]

yep.. like we only saw because he noticed it had a bid on something .. if he was distracted i would've lost the money for thin air

And it was literally impossible to be anyone else in the party as he was screensharing and i just copied the info

[buoyant herald]

🤯

[rain meadow]

I heard that was happening long before the market issues

[buoyant herald]

never heart of that 🤔

[hollow quiver]

Well maybe now it just has come to the attention of the other rmt people

[rose jewel]

its extremely more blatant nowadays ye, with the rapport gold gone, bots are selling lv1 gems and snipping gems like that

[buoyant herald]

well they are 100% sniping destr stones too i guess they just found some new stuff to do

[rose jewel]

also, from a post in reddit, we on the west market have around 70k pages of lv1 gems on the market, so you can easily imagine why the AH is completely fucked up

[buoyant herald]

rip bussing ?
i would love that bussing is stupid imo

[rose jewel]

there is no cooldown on posting things, but there is a CD for buying things, so the market gets flooded with actions but its the same pages of items

[hollow quiver]

I wonder if we can exploit this tho .. because they just copied the gem and then they sent a bid and they can't revoke the bid so we can literally steal gold from them lol

[rose jewel]

and no, people sell t1 accesories instead of gems

[hollow quiver]

a lot of people still use gems tho

[rose jewel]

so busses are guchi if the busser know wwhats up

[buoyant herald]

not for long

[hollow quiver]

i mean yeah but at least near my ilvl i get gems 90% of the busses

[buoyant herald]

how many busses are you buying

[hollow quiver]

and i've seen some people "buying the wrong gem" maybe that's why

[hollow quiver]

Well until this week too many lmao my highest ilvl is 1450 and just got past 1430 today lol

[rose jewel]

yeah heard quite some people get their gems sniped, i only bought buses twice in my life, but it was with accesories

[buoyant herald]

really should start playing the game

[hollow quiver]

Well the average joe buys a few more 🥲

[minor warren]

just to confirm, will HA1 negate defense reduction lvl 2 malus

[hollow quiver]

Well yeah now i am but i just didn't have fun with 6 alts doing dailies 24/7

[rose jewel]

perks of being a day1 player, nothing bad with buying busses as a new player, the games nearly forces you to do it

and community is not really welcoming to new players also

"Not BiS 5x3 LoS30 Roster 200+ perfect 100 qual accesories? gtfo of my 1550+ argos lobby"

[buoyant herald]

new players should just group with new players and play the game and not just depend on veterans to get carried

[rose jewel]

well, yes, but some people like it easy, that's why the posts, people going in not saying shit and expecting to be carried for free instead of actually trying to learn the game

while they are the one fucking up mechs and wiping the group over and over

[buoyant herald]

[hollow quiver]

yeah but do you realize how hard that is? there's little to no parties willing to "learn" and matchmaking you're bound to go as much as the 1st gate

[rose jewel]

had one of those in a vykas last night, they do exist sadly, leader called out and kicked the lad

that's why you never matchmake, just create your own learning lobby, i bet it wont take more than 20 mins to fill

[buoyant herald]

yeet noobs all the time really easy to spot ppl who have no clue whats going on

[rose jewel]

the point is not dying and being new/bad

[buoyant herald]

big diff when ppl just fuck up and have no idea

[hollow quiver]

yeah but then you need to leave the raid.. it takes a while

[rose jewel]

the point is that if you know you're bad or new, even if you cleared the thing once or twice, PLEASE FUCKING SPEAK UP, if you say nothing of course its infiuriating, just ask for help, most people will gladly help, if you stay silent we cant help at all

the silence is what kills the mood

[hollow quiver]

yep.. being afraid of asking for help

[rain meadow]

Being afraid of getting kicked for asking for help, more like

Or being judged in general

[late lily]

Been away for a while, my character is at 1100, Should I bother with any of the black friday packs to help me get up, I havent even really finished story. I kinda want the white outfit that is on sale for my PLD though.

[rose jewel]

first, you made the choice of going in to a lobby clearly titled "alt run", if you did that, at least have the guts to say "sorry im still learning the thing"

[rain meadow]

At 1100, you can just move on to punika msq, finish tha and do the 1100 chaos dungeon to get your 1302 gear set

[rose jewel]

they are mostly for combat items and skins and pets and whatnot, not really worth the price to help you hone further imo

[full quiver]

I didnt even realize friday's over already for me lol when is the next sale? and do costumes stay in the shop forever or are some limited?

[rose jewel]

not really a huge amount of honing materials on them

some are limited

[late lily]

ah OK, thanks. Can anyone tell me if I will be able to buy the white skin from market board, or should I just buy it from the sale now?

[rain meadow]

The white one with the red sash and fur cape? Should be tradable on the market after 3d

[rose jewel]

you can indeed buy them from the AH with gold, but they will get more expensive as time passes

(i dont remember if all of them were limited ngl)

[late lily]

OK, yeah I was thinking about getting the black one, selling it for gold and then buying the white one <_<.

[rain meadow]

Pretty sure all the 1st anni KR skins are limited run lol

[late lily]

Ive heard that in KR they are scarce.

specifically the black one.

[rain meadow]

They are scarce because no one was playing during that time. It wont be scarce with us because... well a lot of us are playing rn

[rose jewel]

yes the black one is specially limited, i think you can only get it with the 10k pack? the one with the cape

[rain meadow]

Supply in our region will be much higher

[rose jewel]

well yeah that as well

[late lily]

yeah that is what I was thinking

Thank you for the information! hype to be returning to the world of Lost Ark!

[rain meadow]

Again, if you're planning on buying eith crystals, you might as well buy the white one anyway

Since the pack with the white one has 2x the costume lol

[late lily]

oh I didnt realize that. Also being a PLD main I know there is no weapon for that set iirc.

[rain meadow]

There should be a weapon

There's a reaper version of the weapon lol

[rose jewel]

honestly, worse time to come back for a couple reasons, but best time for other reasons as well lol

[late lily]

I mean Im not coming back to endgame... Im far from end game I think.

[rose jewel]

hope you're not of the victims of the massive DCs

not because the end game, its technical issues

[late lily]

Oh damn. specific Data Centers?

[rose jewel]

servers have been burning for weeks

[rain meadow]

Specifically nae and euc lol

[rose jewel]

and SA

[rain meadow]

Naw has rare cases

[late lily]

well, Im sure it'll be fixed eventually, yeah Im NAE lol

[rose jewel]

yeah i dced once in the past 2 weeks

[late lily]

Amazon say anything?

[rose jewel]

and that was my net derping, not servers

[late lily]

I dont have twitter

[rose jewel]

yeah, "we have no idea what's up, still doing experiments" - Amazonians

[rain meadow]

[rose jewel]

they released a "possible fix", which you may know by now, it didnt work

[rain meadow]

More or less

[late lily]

Again, thank all of you for the information!

[ornate lantern]

Has anyone ever farmed these? I need to get Nia's OS and need to get the requirement. I'd appreciate any insights.

[rose jewel]

hidden stories from adventurer's tome each continent and potions from rapport

[rain meadow]

Idk about farm, but doing the sidestories in adv tome helps

[ornate lantern]

Dope. Thanks!!

[rose jewel]

the former are quite fast to do, and you wanna do them anyway for ignea's

just read a guide

[ornate lantern]

Yeah. Ok.

[full quiver]

where can I get an updated berserk build for chaos dungeon + raid for mayhem?
currently 261 sp but will soon get more skillpoints

[snow hinge]

Check maxroll, they have good build for mayhem

[full quiver]

is maxroll always a good site for builds? and other types of guides for lost ark* seems like its suggested often

[rain meadow]

Its a good place to start, at the very least

[verbal sky]

maxroll zerk builds for chaos and raid is pretty much as good as it gets

[dreamy bluff]

its a really good place to get a basic build for your class. maxroll build are made to be beginner friendly

[frigid oracle]

Some are good, some are outdated or bad. Grab your class roles in this discord and check the pinned messages in those class channels, players have been creating community guides for several classes.

[dreamy bluff]

yea for more in depth build go to your class channel and look at the builds there. maxroll is nice cause it has builds based on how many points you have which is pretty nice especially for new players.

[full quiver]

yeah but the berserk one seems outdated as this skill no longer has a cooldown on the 1st tripod and i believe the madness one is mahyem? (is that how it was translated in russia?) so idk are they actually not?

[frigid oracle]

#berserker

[dreamy bluff]

im not sure how often maxroll updates. i know the last patch we had had some changes for somes classes. not sure if maxroll changed their builds after those changes

[rose jewel]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EQD2Rt7XTDBDJMMz2zFK9Swcc1io4ycbicbEwauUaFg/edit and look at the top for zerk if youre lazy

[vestal gate]

Does weapon glows not work on weapon skins??

[rose jewel]

certain ones are bugged, like more glow or less glow, i think one of them negates the glow, which is more than probably a bug

or it may be a feature idk

[woven totem]

excuse me, lm trying to build my char but it will end up like this, is it ok to have a lvl 1 red engraving?

[vestal gate]

The Reaper Dawn Weapon 2 has no glow 😦

[shy chasm]

if your trying to go on a budget and it doesnt affect ur char sure

[rose jewel]

arent gunners heavy on anilock most of the time? i feel like attack speed reduction is gonna be very rough

wait, why are you going for adrenaline AND precise dagger

[woven totem]

that is for pistoleer

[rose jewel]

is that really how they build?

[woven totem]

yes

[shy chasm]

does it really need that much crit ?

[rose jewel]

i have never looked into male GS, but that feels so off for some reason

like, extremely off

[shy yarrow]

any negative on deadeye is gunna hurt lol

[shy chasm]

oh damn

[rose jewel]

they are something else lol

[woven totem]

thing with pistoleer is that u MUST crit

[shy chasm]

ahh

[woven totem]

because spec doenst add anything else BUT crit dmg

so yeah, u get a lot of crit dmg

[rose jewel]

who needs keen blunt weapon anyway

[shy yarrow]

kek at least salvation gives some crit

[woven totem]

l also got lvl 5 tripods for main skills

so l got max lvl attack speed tripod, that's why l was asking if having a lvl 1 attack speed reduction would be fine

[shy yarrow]

try it in trixion and see for yourself, i dont play that class

[novel bough]

Is there an updated arcana build anywhere?

[maiden locust]

anyone know how to change guild name ? i bought a ticket and picked it up in my product inventory but got nothing in my inventory to use whatever found ount

[shy yarrow]

probably in the #arcana channel

[mighty linden]

does it matter which gear pieces i hone for alt from 1370 to 1415?

[rose jewel]

you hone all to 15

[mighty linden]

oh okay thank you!

[shy yarrow]

some pieces benefit more so you can do them first but you have to get all 15

[rose jewel]

pre 1415 the gain on stats are extremely small compared to 15>16 and onwards, doesnt really matter much unless you are an extremist minmaxer

[muted verge]

male gs? gunslinger is female deadeye

also known as superior gunslinger

[rose jewel]

no boobs = shit character c:

[muted verge]

this booba isnt good enough for you?

[ripe sedge]

Guys, need to know if Wardancer FI book is valuable to sell? It dropped (free drop) on Vykas on my GL, and I don't have any WD chars. So I go to AH, click it like 30 times, nothing cuz of the fucking bots... so can't tell the worth of the book to sell it

[muted verge]

(na west prices)

[maiden locust]

na west in inflated

[muted verge]

i regret immigrating

[ripe sedge]

clicked 30 more fucking times, nothing

[shy yarrow]

if its a marketplace item just put it in the registry slot and it shows you the prices

[ripe sedge]

oh finally

[muted verge]

if i had to take a guess spamming the refresh doesnt actually help, give it some time in between the clicks

[muted verge]

whats up with your brightness