#lost-ark-help
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one of the vendors in the honing district in every major city
REALLY dumb question but for royal crystals like the USD $19.99 it says it is 2200 right? +10% is tht 2200 the total not including tht 10%?
including
kk ty
Could someone teach me how to search for certain engravings on accessories in the auction house
beside the search button
damm they are expensive what
which ability stone engravings are worth trying to sell on the auction house?
meta engravings
I dunno which ones are the meta ones tho
The most notable one is a rock with adrenaline + non grudge meta engraving
just search up your stone in the market if ur not sure the engraving can sell
can someone run me a quick list? xd
Learn them? #info-dump has a guide on engravings
yeah that's what I've been doing but it's quite a lot of work to search up all the combinations only to realize 99% of them are worth 1 gold
I did find one I sold for 500g tho
adrenaline keen blunt weapon
adrenaline/ambush adrenaline/hit master adrenaline/grudge
adrenaline/raid captain adrenaline/cursed doll
list of meta engravings
obviously some of them are support only, so they'd only be useful on stones with 2x support engravings
awesome, thanks!
if it has 2x meta, search, look at recent prices
if has no recent sales, its trash
yeah I quickly noticed that only the ones with 2x good engravings are actually worth something
keen blunt weapon/grudge keen blunt weapon/ambush keen blunt weapon/raid captain keen blunt weapon/hit master theres a lot you just have to search your stone in the market and see for yourself if u can sell them
and even then, its more specific
even though stuff like barricade/stab status etc are meta for certain classes
the stones will be worthless, as people want those stats on accessories instead
hello, potential returning player here who stopped playing all the way back when argus released. I'm 1385, what content should I be doing?
oh I see
argos and oreha until u get to 1415
the only one I found that had a high value was ambush master/raid captain
@craggy coyote Azena. I've not seen ONE real player except my friend. it's all bots with dfsj gbsibiusdfangidfosnghuida names. i've never seen it this bad in an mmorpg
it's mostly like that in the starting areas
once you get to punika you'll find all the players
so can I skip to it?
yes you can, with a power pass
is there any downside to using a power pass
and then?
it costs money
valtan
aside from that? do u miss out on like things to gather around the map and stuff like that?
not really no
but depending on where you are in the main story line, you might wanna finish your current continent
you'll miss out on some small quest rewards, but nothing significant or gamechanging
you'll also miss out on knowing what the storyline/lore is, if you care about that
the power pass costs 1100 royal crystals per continent, even if you're 99% finished with a specific continent it will still cost 1100 crystals to finish the last percent
i dont give a fvk about it actually, that's the worse with the bots -- the constant G spamming with all the questing
what quest are you on currently?
"La reconstruction du Lutรฉran"
wait what
level 28
how can you be 1385 and still be on the first main questline?
yeah, its like 2 or 3 days or something before you can accept guild quests or promote research, which leaves plenty of time to gain contribution afterwords
you can donate silver from day1 even if you're a "new guild member"
oh wait nvm I confused you with another person haah
can't remember exactly how many days, but its definitely less than 7
fairly sure its like 2/3/4 days
i mean other than the sense of paying to progress and not earning it yourself? no not really
@reef fog but yeah if you wanna skip the story, go for a power pass, if you buy a punika power pass you get another one for free from the event as soon as you finish one additional purple quest
yeah, im sure you'll feel bad not earning that G spamming yourself
and from punika you can sign up to the hyper express event and get basically free honing mats to bring you up to the latest content
i mean one of the main draws to an mmorpg is to level and grind yourself to the top, right? if you just pay to bypass all that then whats the point
speedrunning the entire thing doesn't actually take that long btw
I did level 1 to punika in about 10 days
its not about taking long, its just annoying XD
and I'm not a super active speedrunner by any measure, you can definitely do it in just a few days
but yeah it'll be mind-numbingly boring to spam G for that long
because you're paying to bypass the mindless terrible content, which is essentially no more than a tutorial
to actually access the real game
rather than literally just pressing G and running around with bots
making a player spend 30-50hours doing a tutorial before they can actually play the game, is just terrible design
when the game was originally released in korea that was the actual content
the grind starts at lvl 50, not before anyway
Does anyone know where I can find groups for valtan normal?
yeah party finder ๐
gl on tuesday
ingame party finder
Im having lil luck with party finder, and the one time I tried making my own raid, I forgot I had lead and missed a thirain, so was wondering if there were any other sources out there for people looking for valtan nm, if not, I will try again later
understood
Nope, its for my alt, 1415
Any recommendations for farming honing materials ?
would be too easy 
thank you for your help but you might as well be speaking mandarin to me
babe my wallet so full it won't close
could you tell me how raiding and pvp is in this game?
is it like final fantasy kinda raiding
so basically you don't recommend the game, correct?
other than the camera angle, yeah it's very similar
biggest difference is that the biggest raid here is 8 people
is it as challenging as ff14?
and what is your opinion on pvp? why did the other guy say it was lacking?
I've never tried pvp
but I'm sure it beats the basically non-existent pvp from ffxiv xD
yeah youre right
pvp community here seems to be somewhat active, so at least there's pvp games played
there were 16 man raids but they got removed
ooo
@pliant pivot what do you think about the pvp in lost ark
I mean I can sort of imagine why
the raid wipe mechanics can be plenty confusing enough for 8 people
imagine 1/16 players wiping your raid constantly and you won't even be able to spot who it was

not that good, pvp balancing is non existent
I've heard the opposite as well
i mean the fun aspect
most common complaint about pvp that I've heard is that we don't have the pvp expansion from korea yet
ive been dueling my friend since we started and we have such a bla
korea has more gamemodes/maps for pvp than we do
itโs alright
okay perhaps youve just seen too much ahah
but as usual I'm sure we'll get everything korea has, only with a 1-2 year delay ;x
not a fan of it but i do it for the extra weekly mats
Same, but now my friend left the game 
if youre on azena u can join us
@reef fog if you enjoy FFXIV I'm sure you'll enjoy Lost Ark too
i enjoyed the difficulty aspect of pve in endgame
the only thing ffxiv has that is non-existent here is the erp
i guess thats what we are all chaing with mmo
do u guys know why it will never let me send mes ages
you mean the slowmode?
like here
you can only send a message every 10 seconds in this channel
on discord?
slowmode, so you dont spam one sentence messages constantly
oh wow i thought i was writing like a s s on my messages somewhere
other channels in the server have different slowmode or no slowmode
when there's a riot, all channels usually get longer slowmodes, with #general-chat sometimes having 30s slowmode
but #lost-ark-help having 10s seems to be a constant thing
so using power pass makes me level X with all the bonuses and the right equips?
what are cards for
but you will get some basic amount of engravings from some mokoko challenges that get auto-completed
and are they important
every powerpass will boost you to level 50
depending which powerpass you choose, it will come with a different gear of the relevant ilvl attached
just a choice of bonus stats really, you'll naturally grind card packs playing almost any of the ingame content
the cards you get from 1-50 are all from side quests, and those do not get completed so you can go do them on an alt later on for those rewards
and is there a meta where i would be missing out on cards i need for optimal decks by using power pass?
yesn't
there is a meta set of cards, but you'd probably get 0 of them anyway doing the normal 1-50 grind
you'll miss one guarantee'd card by using powerpass
but its obtainable elsewhere
not worth worrying about
cards is a really end game thing, if ur just leveling don't worry about them
about meta, i understand that we're completely free to change our skills as we please, so I understand that there is one "right build" for every circumstances (pvp, raids etc) and the rest is not good/not recommended?
varies from class to class
yeah depends on class
that's a shame though that a meta is enforced in this game
i remember times when mmorpg had 10 classes and each of them could be 14894 different things
it's not really enforced, people are only gonna cry about it if you play a support class with damage spec in high endgame content
There's always a meta, doesn't mean there's not other viable builds.
i mean, noone can see what skills you're using, unless they jsut staring at your character
so its not really enforced in any way
other than how any meta is enforced, its just used because tis the best way of doing it
sorceress for example has a whole bunch of variant builds, and all of them do sufficient damage
But if one does 1m DPS and the other does 2m DPS, which one would you think people would want?
yes precisely that's my point. "enforced" meta because the game mechanics encourage you to constantly change your build and adapt to environement
you'll find that it's only in the end-end-endgame that people actually start caring about meta builds
instead of being able to make your own build that'd be as good as the other builds
it's not enforced per se
is there dmg meter?
yesn't
MVP screen I guess.
the #1 MVP player in each raid will have their % of damage done shown for everyone
the rest just get slight indications of how much damage they did
just the first one ๐ฎ
I mean there are always third party meters. But their use is bannable
yeah, only the first one gets their full statistics revealed
omg why bannable
because unlike ffxiv, this game has an actual anticheat
the meta is "meta" because its the best way to do something
does your janky-ass build work? maybe
is it better than the "meta"? No, otherwise your build would be the meta build
AGS does not like them, simple as that
(but it still works like shit, case in point: bots)
there r, they r use at your own risk
yeah as i said earlier, level 28 now and have not seen one human so far, kinda looks bad, idk why they wouldnt adress that
it's less bad that there would be no one running around rather than an entire army of bots
using third party addons in ffxiv is more of a don't ask don't tell situation since they've never banned anyone for it unless that person literally spammed about it ingame
they are constantly addressing it
but its a f2p mmo, with an auction house. it was always going to be bot infested
but here you are risking your account for real with third party addons
easy anticheat isnt an actual anticheat itโs just bloatware
yeah I know, it's questionable at best... if it was an actually functional anticheat all the bots would get instabanned before they even hit level 10
i understand ur point and i dont mean to refute or argue but no, this is the worst bot problem ive seen in any mmo, in my lifetime
shits useless it doesnt prevent anything just decreases performance 
goodjob you weren't here 6months ago
they are "working on it"
was it worse? i dont think it could be lmaoo
and you will rarely see any bots past level 50
much worse
and so how is the economy?
I honestly don't even know where they all fuck off to past level 50
is it fucked by it?
not really
yes
all the bots really do is try to get to level 50 so they can farm gold so they can sell gold to players for real money
naw bc prices were up to 4k, higher than kr
so it does fuck it up
but I think the gold inflation would have been more or less the same even without the bots... some real players here making way beyond 1 million gold per month
the economy is about as good as Venezuela's
I think we just got more nolifers than KR
yall just make me wanna uninstall tbh ahah let's do a "nice things about lost ark" fest please guys
nope naw got fucked over hard cuz of bots and rmters
nolifers grinding millions of gold are also a cause of inflation
I gotchu
however the recent developments that AGS have been taking to actively combat inflation is having a huge effect
most engraving recipes are still down to 50% value since over a week
bc price in naw is still stupidly high
EUC is pretty fine atm
Good things about lost ark:
- Replaces ur irl job
- Raids are fun
- Stops you from going to the scary outdoors
- Playing with friends
Forgot FOMO.
right.
@reef fog many of the endgame raids have a wow-style GDPK auction system for the final loot drops
that's portuguese to me and i dont speak portuguese
also mattt dont look at a SINGLE tier list
so when an item worth 20k gold drops, everyone in the raid can bid their gold for it, highest bidder gets the item, everyone else splits the gold
because all thats going to happen is being sad with ur class
unless ur class is surge blade.
im arcanist and i LOVE it
well thats good
honestly from what I can tell, all tier lists for this game are kinda BS
they are, ur hands are way more important
is it a good class
dont ask this question.
the only thing that's for certain is that you can play sorceress even if you have 0 IQ and just roll your face over the keyboard
ok ahah
ask urself is it fun
it's fun as fuck
if yes, then its a good class
i mean, would you rather be lied to?
Issues that have been brought up:
Bots - every mmo has bots, they seem excessive to you because you're running around the area where bots are. The player/bot ratio where you are is heavily influenced by bots, so it looks worse than it really is.
Economy - its a struggle for a new player, sure. But any mmo is a struggle for a new player. Did the bots ruin it? maybe. Would it be like this anyway? Who knows. people try, but you can't compare the game state to korea. Its a totally different game in a different culture
Now, the good bits.
Raids - its what every content creator raves about. I personally can't compare them to any other game. But from my experience, the raids i've done have been some of my best gaming experiences from the last 20yrs
Characters - Every class just feels good to play. The animations, the noises, the visuals. Every class is just quality
thank you, thats so encouraging. who doesnt love good pve content
no mention of pvp though which is sad for me
never tried it
yea pvp is kinda smoge
whats smoge
every class can stun u for 10 years
just dodge 
i mean if they combo u its ok no?
It's not popular but can be fun if you get into it and like it, I like doing some every week
trueeeeeeeee
auto attacks stun you.
well thanks guys i know so much more about lost ark now
You evidently haven't pvped
dont they like stagger u only?
I like the part where you collect 1238 mokoko seeds 
yeah im getting vibes that the guy is pve oriented xd
they literally stagger u which is usually going to be comboed into a harder stun
eg freeze nade or something like head hunt
then u dodge their other skills bc ure only staggered not stunned
That's so false in a real scenario, no one ever uses an auto attack to ever deal any sorts of powerful combos or damage
Can't dodge out of stagger.
thats true, but it doesnt deny the fact that u can indeed be stagger by an auto
It's meaningless tho lmao
so hamborgir are you a pvper?
sad truth
I do some every week for the mats
you should go interview the nerds in the #pvp-general channel btw @reef fog
Not ranked, just casual
that's where they hang out
no im just about done, yall giving good infos
you're never going to get an unbiased opinion about pvp
the people who say its good, are going to be the people who play pvp
the people who say its bad, are going to be the people who don't play it
and then theres the general playerbase that agrees on the fact that deathblade is op in pvp and pve 

yes but from experience ppl that like pve more and are more stressed/anxious about pvp don't try to learn and often just say "its not good" when in reality they dont quite understand mechanics
Yeah true, but all in all this game is pve focused
speak for yourself ๐
Didn't koreans dislike the PvP continent?
my bitchass b pvping al lday
until u get sucked into destroyers earth eater one tme
and never touch pvp again ๐
The continents and shit are pretty rough yeah, it's way different than the usual
Lmao destroyer is the biggest noob crusher, but in reality he's one of the worst classes in PvP
Same as sorc, noob crusher but actually trash
yea no I have no problems with sorc
eh sorc is middling but not bad
I just really hate db lmfao

is arcanist good in pvp guys
It's higher skill ceiling, but average
Even the ceiling isn't high, but it's still harder to reach lol
i destroy my friend who is gunner or whatever
did u mean is arcanist fun in pvp
imo arti is the most broken rn
babe yah, i totally did
๐
dont get me started on medeia
arti sits on a point and all of a sudden no one can contest stairs
Medeia and all the islands and PvP continents are way different
openworld/unequalised pvp just seems like such a troll concept
Most people don't even have a different build for it, so it's a pretty trash experience for most
and the ones that do just fuck everyone up
we go gvg there so we all have a build
but since we play on a server nobody has ever even heard of
its usually an alt guild that is there for free 80k gold
yea there is
I just did Valtan G1 for the first time, is it normal that it's sooo hectic and a clusterfuck?
yes
Good! Cause it was quite stressful and I wondered if I am just too much of a noob
its stressfull even for someone like me who has done it 100+ times
its a stressfull fight with all the bleed stacks and stuff
just dont get bleed stacks 
shut up
i mean if you have100+ clears should be easy 
i play pali i kinda have to
if you play pali you just spam cleanse

I don't remember the last time I had to melee my teammates to shield them lol
wait ur telling me pally players have auto attack binded?
luckily you have push immunity on your holy protection, so you can get hit whilst shiel... oh wait
what?
they really should change that
yes, lets make the easiest class to play, even easier
god forbid paladins have to think about anything
yes
Just use your awakening instead 
if i already did raids on my 6 gold earners, and i have a 7th alt. can it run argos + buy boxes even without getting the gold?
yes
does this give anything useful ?
More rooms.
"useful" depends on how much you value having a second floor to your mansion
what would i get from a second floor ? XD
if not to get a new slot then no need
.
Away from my system atm but was curious
Would it be okay to use inferno instead of esoteric ?
Meaning final 8 skills would have both counter as well as inferno. 
Wanted to ask about it in sorc channel but i think theyre using it for some lobby rn, so, didnt wanna disturb
Sorceress* class
I think you replace something else not eso.
probably the counter (if ur doing igniter)
Ye right now the guides say to either use squail or inferno
But like.... I dont.. see esoteric doing either good dmg or meter gain hmmmm
So in some raids like valtan where we kinda need both counter as well as destruction.. i thought itd be nice ..
The water wave, whatever it is called, is a decent replacement for Eso until LoS 18.
Owhhh
Ultimately Esoteric Reaction is a really good skill.
might be eso later cause i know most sorcs i play with run eso
Ye me too me too
Was just curious xD
Personally from what Ive seen its never the job of the sorc to counter which can seem kind of selfish but I understand why
Might change for some niche areas of gameplay
I run Lv. 1 Squall for Igniter, and Lv. 12 main damage skills and Lv. 10s elsewhere.
the 8th slot is definitely flex, some run inferno, squall lvl1 is also a really good choice if u still wanna counter
Need to when most of the time only 2 people are alive in ghost phase 
But ye for those situations, might use counter itself. Other times inferno.
Ayayyy
I think its always a situation of run inferno unless u need/want the counter.
does inferno gib meter gain ?
not much but its not the worst
Aye
@wicked juniper 408 skill point requirement though. That's my setup.
And once we get the next set of skill points you can go all 12s with squall sticking at one if you wanna go for that anti.
i use the same things as well !
Just that.. i dont have that many 12s :/
Probably need to grind horizontal content agen for skill point potions.
Stuck at 396 or something
Yeah sorc is one of the classes that can really take advantage of having all skill points maxed
Like you're not losing an insane amount of damage but its damage nonetheless
especially as you get higher gems
Aye Aye
It's more important to learn when to use skills, and the explosion cancel
And how to manipulate enhanced magick addiction vs boundless.
how long does it take to get a character through t1 and t2 into t3, with the shards requirement?
an alt not long just run tower and you are pretty much set
what can i do with my old bound simple oreha fusion mats ?
Trash 
๐ฆ
How do you set settings to notify for any unlearned tripod?
Set Lv. to desired limit.
Yes, you just mentioned it 
There's also the increased base chance for up to +15 for 1302 gear, which is now 30% I think it was.

No, just straight +15s now.
use books till 15 is the way to go now
the purple and yellow ones only till 15, theres a select event book that works for 16-18
no
Okay, seems to work, but now the annoying thing is, I get notified for ALL tripods I don't have at lvl5, even if i have a higher level than the drop.
Do you know of any setting that would only notify of drops that are higher than my current levels?
i have 3200G on currency but only 191G on market why is that ?
Hover over your gold. Some of it may be on a 3day hold
Would like to ask how many bpass had been released?
2
Simple guestion, is it worth something?
This is the 2nd?
yes
how ?
phew ty
Remove the favorited tripods.
im looking for the Blue wealth rune from the stronghold vendor Tuleu but ive seen like 5 different spawns and none of them have wealth, is the in game codex wrong or is it just a rare item from him
for the past 3 days i have been lol
@limpid obsidian
Here's my full dismantle setup if it still doesn't work for you. Only gives me tripods with Lv. 4 or above which I don't have.
hunger wants swiftness stat so im pretty sure nop
rip, ty
if it was lunar voice then yea easy 10k or so
quick question, is life energy account wide or can i gather on all characters?
yep
Roster wide and on any character.
okay thanks c:
Hey guys, what do you have to do when you have the curse and you need to go clown and go in mario?
the person with the mark is never gonna be the same person that is doing mario if that is what u are asking
the curse just means you will die if the person doesnt kill the orbs in the mario game you arent supposed to do anything but tell the mario player what colour
He means health curse most likely 
oh true lol
health curse just take damage and it will give back hp for the amount of hp you have missing
Best bet is to use clown tower to transform and take damage. Maybe delay ur enter in gate as long as you dare so you can pot. Not sure if you have enough of a time window to pop a pot when u touch the portal and curse activates
the clown tower will also do dmg just take dmg from that during health curse and then if u can wait out the curse and pot before going into the portal after curse is gone
Basically, do as normal but don't die doing it while being clown.
Some runs itโs too impossible to do and it is what it is. Reset and go again
if u are getting curse while mario transition then ur dmg prolly low too from group
where is the event gold spending thing?
Yeah health curse I mean sorry ;d
Bottom right corner in North Vern.
Below honing at nia village
Thanks guys I will try to do like that appreciated
twinkle twinkle
is it worth rerolling these epic gems
Doesn't solve the issue. I still get notified of any tripod that I don't have lvl5 of yet, even if I have a higher level than the tripod drop.
For example: I have a lvl4 tripod. A gear drop has a lvl2 of that same tripod, it still notifies because it isn't level 5, even if lvl2 is lower than my current lvl4.
Image for proof:
They're free to roll.
oph rlly
Setting to lvl4 doesn't really solve the issue either. That just sidesteps it :/
What? You can set it to Lv. 2 and it would work too just the same.
i wasted 10k gold to push to 1445
That doesn't work
#lost-ark-help message
i need to clarify something regarding the world tree leaves. they can drop from any map right? so long as im doing the respective Life skill?
@limpid obsidian Show me your settings.
I want fully transferred on the effects I've favorited tho
You can't have BOTH.
I favorite a very few select tripods that are sellable
If you want your way, you have to favorite every single tripod you don't have your desired level for.
And make sure it's set to STN only.
With the current system, there is no both ways unfortunately.
Well, I was looking for both favorited at lvl5 even if transferred, and any tripod at a level I don't have
Then RIP.
Then favorite any you don't have Lv. 5 and want.
This should help a bit, they won't be notified but they won't be destroyed either. Tick this.
Actually, there is a way to get a bit closer
Only auto-dismantle Legendary and below, that means any relic amulet gets kept. I'll have to manually dismantle them, but that's the price I guess
Read above.
Might be the closest you'll get to what you want honestly.
This text is confusing. What exactly does this mean?
Favorites to sell will be marked like you want and not destroyed.
The above option excludes Lv. 2 or higher tripods in your case, from being dismantled. But they won't be marked.
The setting for Lv. threshold will choose which level you want to keep.
anyone know how much gold hard mode vykas gives?
4,500.
thank you!
@limpid obsidian Did you understand that now?
But then I'll keep any lvl2+, no?
Yes, since you've set it to Lv. 2 in your tripod settings.
That's useless :/
If you set it to Lv. 5 then you'll only get 5s.
But if I set it to 5, I lose out on all the lower level tripods I haven't learned yet
Then set it to Lv. 4 like I have.
Can u get inf exp by spamming reforging the event bonus gem? well the roster exp
Nah, setting dismantle to Legendary or below and only notifying of tripods I haven't fully transferred is better
Whatever works for you 
It's about the closest I can get to what I want.
I get notified of anything I haven't learned, and I get to keep all relic amulets(which have a chance of lvl5), just gotta manually sort through them
as a returning player, am I stuck with busses for learning old content?
I don't understand why you want to sell them though, the tripods are dirt cheap gold wise.
Magick Amplification for Doomsday is like 80 gold
One of the most important tripods.
desperate times
Mine just get yeeted, can not be bothered selling them for a handful of gold.
for these is it only worht getting the giant one?
Yea 
ok
world boss respawn time? like the ones in adv tome not in procyon schedule
Depends some of them are every few hours
Most of them have a 30min respawn timer. Maneth(Shushire) and Casrick(North Vern) have 2h respawn timer.
by the way, respawn timers are different per channel - so if you're in a zone with multiple channels and need a spawn, you can hop between them
yea i was just thinking about that, i guess NA is still asleep though only a couple channels are up
Any channels in such areas are bound to be entirely bot-populated. Cuz there's basically no stuff for proper humans to do there :P
is una quest amount you can do shared between slots?
mhm
like im trying to grind last moment una quest for a bit more una medal
no, you can do 3 dailies and 3 weeklies on every character
Yes that sounds fine. But you shouldnโt need to be carried on a paladin
Justโฆlearn argos and oreha and do them normally
oh so they all counts as pt to the weekly medal as well right
yes :)
your pally your fine
oreha definitely not, argos if you weren't a paladin i'd say you might get gatekept a bit, but you are paladin :)
Maybe harder but, I would still recommend doing the content. And youโre a support so youโre generally in demand
1370 bard got carried for free lol
oreha everyone carrying during reset just dont bid the books
Hopefully you at least have some sort of useful build and the right stats
You can matchmake oreha. Usually bump into a overgeared player for the content.
Also if youโre on hyper express you should be able to hone more to get to Valtan (1415 normal)
might be rough though, not going to lie, it's last day of the week and that's where all the stragglers are, trying to do things last minute
Yes thatโs fine. You should just have the right engravings (blessed, awakening, expert) and you should have swiftness
sounds good to me, i try to make it my job to counter though because a lot of dps classes use their counter skills as part of their rotation except a couple
have you used your power pass yet?
Did you do the Beaver quest yet
oh so not the punika powerpass right?
so i vaguely remember on reddit about punika power pass actually completing the 2nd awakening quest for you
For the fwee pp. a pp passed rohendel I believe autocompletes the awakening quest
no, once you unlock it on one char
it unlocks on everyone
not exactly sure if that's the reason why but the quest is so goddam long, so i'm glad that i only had to do it once
one of my friends used the free vern powerpass and it completed the first awakening questline for him, would have been nice to know before i did it manually lol
i think it was just sent to everyone with the patch
You have to finish the purple quest โBerverโs Friendโ
no, you have to do a purple quest at punika
Itโs after the Punika main story
then it should arrive in your mail i believe
yo is there like a button for pet skills or do they randomly proc?
that part is up to you, depends on how much you enjoy playing a support
legendary pet skills right? it's random procs
it's one of the squishiest classes in the game
I feel it doesnโt matter which you make. Make and play what you enjoy. There is lower barrier of entry for supports then dps.
how do pet skills work?*
Yes thatโs why heavy armor is prio for engravings and you take off expert if you were to compare to paladin top 3 engraving
I play both. With HA, bard doesnโt feel much different than Pala
The legendary extra skills?
yeah like how do they proc?
Random ๐
As far as I can tell when In combat
I get it but like random as in every second or what?
when you're in combat (as in you have attacked an enemy or they attacked you in last 10 seconds) it has a chance to proc as the passive states, then it goes on cooldown for 120 seconds
My 100% hp striker gets healed from my pet skill lol
every second you're in combat it can proc
but again, once it procs, goes on cd for 120 seconds
what the absolute fuck that's so trash??????
thats why no one really cares about pet skills
to think I spent ANY time on it smfh
man if I knew xd
I'm looking to do Argos. What does p3 and gates mean? Which type of parties should I join?
I just buy the hoodie ๐
p3 means they're doing all 3 phases of the fight
is market region wide or game wide ?
The boss has 3 different phases. And you get rewards after each. P3 is there intent to do all three back to back
region wide
yes, gold generation as you right now would be selling GHL
you can also do chaos gates for maps to get shard pouches, that should give you hefty gold as well
what would be the best way of farming rapport gifts for npcs? wandering merchants?
yes, you can go to lost ark merchants website to track those
The fight has 3 gates. What are phases? Does every gate also have 3 phases?
gates and phases r interchangeable in this case, it used to be a phase, but they got changed to gate VERY cently
recently*
Each gate is a phase
I see
You can get gold a few ways. Orehas (abyssal dungeon), Argos (abyssal raid), chaos gates (selling the materials you get), doing horizontal content (masterpieces give a bunch of gold, but can be hard to get), gold Adventure Island (usually a calendar is posted on the subreddit towards the beginning of the month showing each day that has a gold island), etc
Before if you stopped raid after gate 2 and took rewards, you could not do gate 3 for the week. If you stop at g2 or didnโt complete g3. You had to go back to do g1 if you wanted to do it later or the party was bad. Now each gate you can complete and join a whole new party. People generally do all 3 together all the way.
pretty much
Yeah
i havent touch horizontal at all ๐
it's tougher to do it now, admittedly, there's less people doing islands and field bosses than ever before
mandatory is a pretty strong word, especially for a paladin
Well I'm kind of new so this is all news to me.
Wish I could join the parties thou, everyone demands high iLvl which I can only get by doing it
Go as far as the reward you want. Skill points are great for non supp classes as supp classes shield and heal do not get bigger from leveling it
but yeah there are some things you have to collect if you want all the skill points
yeah maxroll is perfectly fine, but there's some nuances that it lacks, but that's why this channel exists!
that's where a guild comes into play, if you find yourself a nice welcoming guild, they can help you out with argos and legion raids once you reach there
The Paladin guide on Maxroll is good, yeah
you can check yourself in this discord for one, dont join ones you find ingame at random, most of the time they are dead
All good. Wish you luck on the parties, just wanted to make sure you understood and wasnโt confused about what I said. I wonโt cope and say make your own party and all is good. Itโs easier to make own party but not like easy easy to get everyone as people will look for the speed run time aka high ilvl.
if you wanna see like more endgame builds that KRs are doing you can drop by loawa
I'm also completely new on the runs so it's to be expected
that depends on the TYPE of survive floor, some you can tank some is just pretty much oneshot
Big shields/Damage reduction/Timestop/l2dodge
Good point, I'll try joining one
Yeah, the little bois maybe, usually the big bois are ๐
Even if youโre overleveled, they still hit like a truck
Just donโt get hit 4head
Just dispatch
there's only so many patterns so once you learn them it's easy
Once you figure out the patterns, itโs not bad
the survive floors are random, sometimes you get none, sometimes you get 3
most of them have set patterns, which help with dodging
i'd say wiping on them is fairly uncommon
I once had a cube with 5 trials 
cant wipe on a cube if you dont do cubes 
Yea.
Just 3 weekly on both is enough.
Iโm pretty much done with unas reset day, unless I get lazy and donโt run a couple boss rushes or cubes
Cube, boss rush, chaos dungeon.
Boss Rush/Cube just need one run for the weekly
No.
you can kind of rng it with the bloodstones and just get lucky 4head
If youโre in a guild, you can spend some at the Sylmael Bloodstone exchange for a chance
Chaos dungeons are the best way to get them, tho
fairly sure theres lifeskill weeklies, depending if you have the life essence
but you can technically buy that from mari's if you desperate
Sometimes there might be a login bonus for a ticket select chest
If you stay in a guild for 30 days it resets
Yes, Iโve seen people talk about 30+ days. I think it doubles every time
so make sure you talk to the guild leader in discord or w/e before you join
You either join a community or a high alt guild that has shops unlocked so you can buy more chests from which u just click guild and donate silver for your bloodstones. Only buy the t3 boss chance ticket chess.
yes
destroyer uses earht's antropy?
yes
ohh ok
Depends on your chars and other stuff but I wanna say yes. I think I finished mine within 3 weeks or less when it came out. Granted I have a lot of chars.
Idk about weons but yes to the first 3
only buy aura with the level 50 region trick if you want max value, don't buy the 6 month one with real money
Aura is region wise
you make a character in another region, then buy a vern power pass
20$ for 6 months or so of aura
then buy the one-time lvl 50 pack and use blue crystals to buy aura
i mean not another region, another server in the same region*
surprised they havent cracked down on that
it works in kr too it's just half their servers are closed now and you can't make any chars now
They still make some money from it. Now if they gave free pheons and could be region wide. We would have a stormy weathers ahead.
If only Pheons wasnt a thing. freaking hate that thing
dont know why they would
makes players buy with $ instead of ingame gold
i have accepted their existence, no point shouting in the void at this point, it makes the money :(
Just go Ironman mode
the thing is. Pheons just create attrition for a game that is supposed to be all about making alts. iu always get turned off from gearing my alts when i think i have to waste pheons to get equipment for them if i feel like doing the legion raids without going for buses
yeah i just spend my 250 rc to 3500 gold without knowing it will be delayed for 3 days
and now i cant pay my valtan busses when we are already inside
jesus
yeah they had to add that delay because of chinese credit card scammers :(
and right, i heard pretty much every single pheon argument already but it makes them money, i am pessimistic and doubt it'll change; it's probably their biggest money maker
yes. no point continuing that argument. xD
doesn't mean i like it but i have accepted it at this point :(
so they let u in without paying? just dont give them gold buses are a stupid concept anyway
waaahh
i have to pay to make my characters better
I slapped a gold value to it and accept it. As you can tell I am the type of person to bend over with a smile.
giggity giggity
well not liking bus is one thing but entering a bus room and not paying the driver is something else; won't recommend
Gun lancer
arent you supposed to pay for the bus before you get on
Depends on the busser.
Usually Atleast it before the whole run is completed.
just seems silly on the bussers part then, should ask for gold upfront or carry for free
have you ever wanted to play a dps, that isn't really a dps
but more like a tank, but also not a tank
but that is also like a support, but not actually a support
but is considered a support by those desperate for a support
Paladin. I had two of those. I actually almost pass out while playing that char
I just leveled up to lvl 50 (whoop whoop) and don't know what engravings to focus on. I have no idea which class to main yet, so what are the general engravings I can use the bags for?
Uh. Depends on character.
blue GL (combat readiness) is very very easy to play, up to 1415
all content that you come across has mechanics that you can just ignore, because you're super tanky with shields
its very easy to play early on
later on its not so simple, because stuff does more than just damage when it hits you
but early content, GL is super chill
wouldnt open any bags of engravings until you need them
opening for the sake of opening will just leave you short of stuff later when you need it
Only time I get blue crystals is for pheons.
never got that skin. im content with my lv11 Astray. xD
its not that i didnt pay the busses , i shamely asked them to remake after the gold that i exchange from rc is delayed 3D without me knowing the rules
yeah, i'm aware, i wasn't saying that to you :)
depends where you're at in terms of progression whether that ship skin is worth or not
you do little to no sailing at end game, so the ship skin loses like all value
if you're still doing island content, then the skin is probably worth for the hassle it saves you
but you're NAW right? if you need gold for a bus today before reset i can help you with that
@glad zodiac @crisp turtle I see, so just put them in the vault and play other character till I decide on a main?
yup
Yea. I would search up chaos dungeon builds. For non raid content you should do preemptive strike, contender, raid captain and lightning fury.
@rare iris please do not open the above engravings first
Green books and blue books are wayyy more expensive then purple so pick carefully.
green and blue are really that rare now?
i mean you don't need to THAT careful about it, there's several island content just hands them out like candy
and in worst case scenario you can get some pouches from infinite chaos
am i the only one that was keeping all green and blue books to eventually upgrade all engravings?
Purple you get from doing raids while you donโt see green or blue drop from it. So supply is higher for purple
i mean, yeah spend time doing infinite chaos
seems a much better idea than just not opening bags until you need them
/s
I will play other calsses then, thanks for the advice. What about the battle items? I chose some campfires and dark grenades, but are those the best options?
that's not what i said, no need to twist my words like that
again, dont select til you need them
does trial guardian grant rewards for participation or do you have to be one of the first/fastest in the server?
all it rewards is a title for completion
so theres nothing special for being on the leaderbaord
this game is all about vanity after certain point
that's why there's inferno raids in the first place
the true end game
guys i got a blank, when was the weekly reset? tomorrow or thursday?
tomorrow :)
someone voluntered to help earlier , thanks for offering tho 
yay. tomorrow i get to give HM vykas a try
awesome :)
Anything I can get rid of here? Gonna start a new class.
um just put everything that can go in roster storage, into roster storage
you can start by putting all those bags and chests with honing resources on the roster bag so your new character can access them
and put the skins into skin storage
rest you can get back to it later, it's not really a big deal either way, when you have a bit more understanding of the game, you'll log onto that char in the future and know what to do with them :)
it'll be like going through the pockets of some old jeans and finding $20
until then don't touch things you need to because you might regret it, especially if there's like a legendary selection pack
don't touch things you dont need*
like 260 purple potions 
how long does it take for world boss to respawn?
which world boss are you talking about? it depends :)
that sure is a lot of dark grenades though, i never had that many in my inventory in my life
That's a good thing? xD
it's not a good thing unfortunately because it means you can't diversify
that chest has a lot of good stuff in it
Chuo
like regular chuo right, not chaotic?
bound to that one character, not really
its why i said you want to wait on opening those chests until you know what you need
456 dark bombs and 305 campfires locked to one character is gonna bite you in the ass later on when you need timestops or ww grenades and you have no boxes left to open
regular
EUC people, what life skill is the most worth leveling up to farm gold on the side?
30 minutes, note that the cd is PER channel
foraging for platinum field tickets
but open world life skills, probably hunter/excavating/fishing
EUC or not, priority is gathering to level 30 so you can start doing platinum fields solo
should i save all my tickets till then?
Mushrooms are pretty expensive in NAW
the ones you open from boxes are bound
it depends on how you acquired them, and yes Vanist, you should not use them until then
The one from chest yes. Crafting shouldnโt
Yeah I opened them all along the way honestly.. my bad
is awakening skill cooldown reduced by swiftness or something? it says 5 minutes on the tooltip but sometimes its up faster
ya live and learn
good thing i only used 1 out of curiosity my whole life xD. thanks.
yes
yes, its affected by cooldown reduction, which you gain from swiftness
whats the difference between orange and blue gems
well yeah tier 2 vs 3
if you're t3 and use t2 gems you get half the effectiveness
When u get t3 ilvl the effiencey of t2 is half
oh what the fuck
So 20% of a t2 gem is 10% now
how do i get more orange ones
Itโs similar when u hover over previous accessories from a lower tier
chaos dungeons/boss rush
boss rush is the most common method, followed by weekly pvp islands!
T3 boss rush and chaos dungeons
participation is all that's required, you don't have to win to gain 10 lvl 3 gem boxes
for brel gates 5-6, you have to be 1510 ilvl to clear right?
1520 for g5-6
bard
bard for sure
swift bard is pretty easy :)
sh and scrapper not far behind
easiest female dps?
scrapper/sh/sorc
So normal chuo respawns every 30 min?
so 1520 is the current goal to be fully ready for brel when she drops?
correct, and per channel basis as explained before
reflux sorc
igniter you gonna do zdps untill you know the fights llike reaaaaly well
is there only a bug with freezing when loading raids? does anyone know the solution?
shouldnt aim for 1520 XD pretty much no one is gonn clear g5 6 week 1
just get 1500 do g1 - 4 on a few chars better then think about 6 in t he later weeks
well, whales will be :)
Something like this? Do I buy more roster storage? I can buy 1 row
you can be lower than 1520 pre-brel
and upgrade then hone one piece after clearing g1-2
its not about ilvl they are hard as fuuuck
you have a 2nd page of roster storage, that unlocks from your stronghold
i mean that's what kr said about literally every single raid that came out so far and nothing with some prog and guide can't fix
my buddy started recently and got to tier 3 and used powerpass on an alt, doing so put a lock on his account to where he cant use the market on his main, is there any way for him to earn gold atm ( without doing abyss)? he is on a different server so i cant send him any gold
different server? he could post up a gem for you to buy
1500 on more than my main doesnt seem realistic for me rn xD.
or a t1 accessory
He can't use market
oh :(
Need to do stronghold quest then ๐
Gold island
exactly why you shouldnt bother with 1520 ๐
1490 should be your goal
shouldnt it be 1505? i remember reading people say that +21 was the ideal honing level to go to before upgrading to upper relic/ancient?
All these items I have now I got from the main campaign, If I start a new character will I get them again?
(losing my +20 glow is gonna hurt like a bitch when the soft reset hits)
wel from what i can see, most of what you got is from ark pass right?
honestly, if you want to hit 1505+ from where you are now, you need some kind of miracle luck
if i had your roster, my goal would just be getting main to 1490 for new chaos dungeons, brel g1-2 and the breakpoints for unas and stuff you unlock
then concentrate of rest of roster
dam now that you bring it up like that brelshaza is really close
its gonna be next month right?
Canโt wait to see people mald on twitch 
We still have a whole month right? Right???
i wonder if theyll divide the whole abyss raid into 2 releases to people can get through confortably
wel if it's same day as this month's major patch it'll be middle of the week again
middle of the month*
rumours/assumptions are for the 14th
so 3 weeks
yes :)
Iโm not readyโฆ I have 3 chars two tap away from 1490 
No it's my first character, didnt even have the pass until I hit 50. I get them from login rewards I think then
my supports somehow smashed 1490 easily
my other alts are super struggling with leapstones
wel either way, it's not coming from your story quest or whatever so when you swap your char you won't get them :(
I blasted through the campaign and only equiped highest level gear and opened up the battle items only ( which i shouldn't i realise now).
Iโm mainswap too many timesโฆ
I got them from those battle item chests.
yeah you'll get some of those when you do quest again, but i never did campaign after the first time...you can if you want to though
Any t3 mats you have, definitely not going to be from story again
I dont need to do campaign on alts?
yeah you should have vern powerpass when you get to vern at lvl 50
You unlock something in ur stronghold called knowledge transfer, pay gold wait 8hrs boom lvl 50
once you finish vern, the game will give you 2 free powerpasses to skip storyline
after that you use your stronghold to knowledge transfer characters through the main story
you should never have to do the main storyline ever again
then when you get to t3 punika and do the purple quest, you'll get a punika powerpass to jump a char to 1302
one thing worth mentioning. youll lose all the roster EXP if you had done the quests yourself.
Unless you have 17 characters
EYO! That is incredibly handy!
Knowledge transfer does have a cap I found out the hard way
yeah you have to do like 1 regular story for every 1 KT? or something i forgot the ratio
There is a ratio but Vern wise, you will meet it Everytime. Because what I transfer to Vern counts to it
buff/offensive/utility/healing chest. always keep those in your roster and only open them if you need them. if you doing a raid that need some of them then open the chest and take a few then throw it back in your roster. otherwise you gonna have to spend alot of gold buying/crafting them cause alot of content requires different types of items
not for vern, but they all have an actual cap of how many times you can do them
right
So my goal now is: Get to Vern, do stronghold stuff, then I can make 2 alts and decide on my main, use honing stuff on alts and open only chests I need from now on?
sounds good to me :)
then you'll get started on guardians and chaos dungeons and stuff
honestly if your in Vern, you most likely wont need to open any chest until you reach Punikka other then maybe pots if your dying alot
Sweet! 
im jelly that youll have 100% honing rates till you reach punika xD
too late for that advice 
Just to clarify the pots. Use instant % pots in raid content only. The duration over time heal is for outside raid
Don't use those for the main story
danm. those 60% hp pots. pain
Save for later raiding
use the heal over time pots for literally EVERY CONTENT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO, use the instant pots if it won't let you (guardians, legion raids, tower, etc)
yea but he is still deciding on what to main
seeing this was more pain 
campfire was godtier in tera but in this game campfire is just another name for paladin
oh yeah that too. the dark bombs is maybe not that bad since alot of people like to use them but campfire is probably one of the least used item in the game
๐ Glad you guys can share the pain and enjoy my mistake
gotta learn to laugh, otherwise you'll just cry
well it hasn't really hit him yet, he might be sad later when he realizes he has no chests :(
dw, we've all done dumb shit
as long as you learn from it, none of it is game ending
I don't even know what that is, but heh nice
you'll figure it out when you get there, they teach you!
basically the main thing to remember is if you arent gonna use all of the things(as in all 600 health pots or whatever else) you take out in the next 1-3days, dont take them out and just keep them in your storage.
alot of people are still sufering now from having no more pots to use in learning raids cause they used them all way too fast and are nor forced to fork over the little gold they have just to progress
thank god i still have 80 chests of pots. make sure to pop by during weekends for the hot time rewards.
was it hot time that it was called?
also if you new, dont ever take out elemental pots from those healing chests. just take out the blue pots or green ones and use those. most of the content in the game dont need those elemental pots unless its extremly hard content. also dont use those healing pots inside chaos dungeon. just use the basic pots thats drops of mobs you kill in the open world
Fever but it doesnโt matter too much on the name.
I rarely use my pots thanks to playing tanky classes like pally, striker and artillerist. 
i have all of this and im still worried i might burn through them way too fast with all the alts i have
btw, are we gonna need 5x3 for brel?
for party finder yea for clearning probably no
elemental pots are like 33gold for just one of them right now in NAeast. each learning run probably run through a few dozens and maybe 100+ per run. so save them when you can
easy to say hard to do engraving books are 200k each
they arent anymore
Thanks for all the help and replies, Gonna finish the Arthetine continent and get to Vern now.
I am ocd about my jewelry. I donโt wanna man up and pay for the 666k deathblow ring I see in the market.
no less then 100k which is still a lot
But I have statics so I think Iโll be okay
no more than the cost of honing
dont hone for a week or so
and buy accessories
im honestly thinking about finding a chill group to do HMs with. PF is way too much stress and toxic people.
As someone creating a new account should they go for more populated servers or quieter ones?
what class are you?
How do I cheese to G3 and G4 Brel?
Fpe arti, db striker, fi wd, transform scouter. For dps.
popular. more fun adn you can talk to people and ask for help while prograssing
I am confused
uhh
you got everything to +20 so just convert any armor piece to brel after g1-2 and hone until you get to 1500 (should be about 4 hones)
Leave your hones as the 2nd picture and upgrade the transferred piece after gate 2
Looks like it saying to have all that and when u do g1 g2 you will have mats to convert glove to new glove and you hone that glove
I see! Which servers on EuC are the most populated?
probably zinnervale?
thirain/zinnervale/kadan
uh don't do glove though since you're support, you want to do chest i think? as it says in the image
technically yeah but honestly it doesn't really matter :)
you don't have to yeah
Does pally attack power buff scale off attack as well?
i honestly dont know if 5x3 is an absolute requirement to do brel. your actual stats is way more important i would say
base attack, but yeah
you either need to push one piece to +21
or hone the piece you transfer to +16 instead of +15
20-all is going to take a different approach to ilvl though, +20x5 + a brel piece to +15 is not enough ^
if i switch to central eu from west will i lose my euw account ?
you will never lose any characters on any region
how do i use mountain crush?
Would +16 be better then @crisp turtle or I should try to bruteforce now?
unless they go nuts and delete an entire region
no one can really say until market prices are figured out at brelshaza patch!
theyre gonna have to figure out what to do with EUW eventually. that region was a bad idea from the start
i'd ask that question again when brelshaza hits and we have general idea of what the prices look like
I am assuming 1 Greater Honor Leapstone would be around the 400~500g ea
Hello everyone, can anyone help me broke the wood barricade in Zagoras Mountain ? I am on the Central Europe server on Nia server.
Since ratio is 1:5
pushing +21 much cheaper for mats
if you go off of average honing chance
the wood barricade for the mokoko seeds
if you think it'll be a direct 5:1 price conversion it's cheaper to hone before transfer because mats are cheaper
and +16 rates aren't that great
20-21 average
6k gold
60k shards
13k guardian
385 leaps
15-16 average
9k gold
91k shards
7k new guardians = 35k guardian
179 new leaps = 895 leaps
whats the most popular euc server ?
Wow
Wouldn't it make sense for me to just push all to 21 then lmao
Oh nvm
well it doesn't make too much sense because the longe ryou take to get there, the cheaper leaps and guardians become
no
danm that is quite alot to do +11 -> 15 Brel Gear lol
2250 GHL, and 75650 guardians (average cost) (this is before you convert them to brel mats)
since the new guardians chaos and una's will drop the new mats
then the 5:1 conversion starts to make less and less sense over time
its basically so u can convert you left over mats to the new mats since people usually always have excess stuff. just like leapstones and greater leaps
additionally people might not say it but they're banking a lot on the special hones to work because rates are better
salt will be pretty funny on that week when they have to shell out bunch of gold for it if they fail on most of them :(
ive got like 1500 of them
i should atleast get one tap, right?
RIGHT?!
they are banking on the 10% over the 3% chance
but at the end of the day, rng is still in control and will decide our fate
can someone explain to me how do i use the skills without keybind below them?
like mountain crush or diving slash
you don't have a...keybind on a skill?
have you tried going to settings > hotkeys > skill
do i need to set a keybind for that?
yes
well i'm not really sure what you're looking at, but you're thinking backwards; you put the skill on the slot, not the other way around
take the skill and drag it into you keybind bar at the bottom
as in, the Q button can be any skill you drag into
hey how can i designate which character i want to make gold ? ty
i mean, your 8 skills should all have a keybind
QWER and ASDF
if one of those is missing, you've bound it elsewhere
oh
ESC, and theres an option at the bottom
press esc then on the bottom theres gold-earning characters
you just change the skills
yes :)
so 8 is the max?
ty i'm just blind
8 + ult + identity (if you have it!)
thanks
8 is max + your V(ult) + your Z/X identity skills
Is it possible for the game to mark all the tripods I dont have that are lvl 4 and above
so regardlesss of tracking, as long as I dont have it and its lvl4 or above, mark it
yes, but it's actually surprisingly complicated to do
you'd need to go through and mark them all
oh yes another question :
i have a character 1375 who has the hyperexpress enabled. he did not take the 1370 reward. if i switch the express to another character, can he gets the 1370 reward as well as the other later ?
is that what this is?
the reason is you have to set item rank to relic and below (so it tracks relics as well), but if you do that, then accessories might get dismantled
at least for auto dismantles anyway
regardless of dismantle settings or tripod settings
the game can only mark amulets if you've manually marked the skill yourself
idc about auto distmantle ill dismantle myself, I just want it all to be marked
and no, only one character can get hyperexpress chest rewards
yes
if mark is all you care about then yeah you can open up your skill page, then press setting, then press setting again
uh ? i got a no and a yes
if you havent taken the rewards yet you can switch and get the rewards on your other character
only one character can claim the reward
you can only get one chest, two chars can benefit off of honing buffs, but the chests you can only claim on one character
honing buffs no
oh yes so i can switch and claim the rewards then
Wait what. I thought it locks in
two characters cannot benefit off the honing buffs, it tells you rather specifically you cannot
it only says you can't after 1415 though no?
because there isn't a honing buff until 1415
Thatโs the honing buff activating
he said he didnt take the 1370 rewards. so if he switch, he will be able and still get the 1370 rewards because he hasnt taken it yet
Has there been a release of the mathematical break down on whether or not buying the frog is worth?
i see, i guess that's what that means
the honing buffs activates when you try to hone past 1415 (+15 gear). after that you cant switch
frog value is dependent on region market so it's hard to say
10000% worth. Plz buy so the books I need are cheap.
okay so i do not lose the rewards and i do not lose the honing buff too ?
frog?
toad
twinkle twinkle thing
tl;dr
you can swap characters on the express once
you can claim the rewards, only once
once a character hones past 1415, the pass is locked to the character, and can no longer be swapped
oh the gold sink shop
I mean should i really be spending 190k gold aa week on it?
oooo that's crystal clear. thank you a lot
Is there a value breakdown on when im gaining gold value or when im losing gold value
How many chars are buying it on. The engraving chance is roster limit weekly not character
this is the math something i know did. not sure if the cost stayed the same though
Upgrade Mat Chest (L)
x16 solar graces = 66 x 16 = 1056
x60 Great Honour Leaps = 67 x 60 = 4020
x16 Honor Shard Pouch (L) = 465 x 16 = 7440
x8 Solar Protection 220 x 8 = 1760
x2000 Destruction stones 7 x 200 = 1400
Cost 6k
Price: 12860 without including Graces/Protection.
Upgrade Mat Chest (S)
x8 solar graces = 66 x 8 = 528
x15 Great Honour Leaps = 67 x 15 = 1005
x2 Honor Shard Pouch (L) = 465 x 2 = 930
x5000 Destruction stones 7 x 200 = 3500
x2000 Guardian Stones 1 x 200 = 200
1 Hope Amulet
Cost 3k
Price:5635 + 1 Hope Amulet (without Graces/Protection)
18
you gain gold when you get lucky
you lose gold when you get unlucky
the rewards are rng and you wont get the same thing as him obviously
the latter being the most common
Are you honing all 18, if not then no. Prices will drop as time goes by
every mat beside the gstones are worth more than the chest itself
yes all 18 are getting honed
price is how much it would cost if you buy it on market. and cost is cost from frog
To be honest the gamba on the leg book are well worth it ....
At same time though. As time goes by people stop honing as much and supply starts to outpace demand.
I love 11k on those leg books
It wasnt good 
insta gamba
I would say books yes, honing mats depends on rng on destruction stones. But they are also dropping it price since not much honing
if it were well worth it then someone would be able to provide proof that it's well worth it, via a spreadsheet or something automated that pulls book prices and compares odds of profit vs odds of loss
tbh not as bad compared to my 75k on that 5k random thingy for selectors
so leg book chest is gonna vary really wildly, but honing mat box, check the rates here: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fh8c8hrXkAQz_eH.png
https://www.invenglobal.com/lostark/sailors you can filter by estoque here, and then click on a crew member to see acquisition method
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this is kr, and books have been replaced with the lvl 4 tripod amulet but it's the same else
Wait has it been confirmed we have the same odds as kr?
not confirmed, but people have tested these and with limited sample size it seems similar if not same
currently spending 50k+ on the frog shop, I found it worth it just for mats and leggo, but clearly it is a gold sinker
also similar to what i got as well
idk i just dont wnna be gambling 200k gold a week just to get 210k worth of maats
"worth" is such a crazy term to add on it
do you normally spent 50k gold a week on the marketplace for mats?
Is there a similar for the selection pack for card
i mean you probably dont need it if you dont plan on honing your characters
if you do normally spend 50k+ a week on mats on the market, then yes. the toad is "worth" doing
if you don't. then its not.
good value compared to market value does not make it good to buy
They said they honing all 18
I normally dont spend 50k but at the same time I have a goal of reaching 1500s but unsure of.
cause I'm still pushing all my alts to 1500
thats irrelevant
unless they're spending that gold on the marketplace normally
Yeap no point buying if you are not honing / stacking, or if you have better use for the money.
honing all 18 doesn't mean you buy mats to hone except possibly fusion mats
I asked if same time and they said yes so Iโm led to believe that they are
Like at the current moment, im not buying destruction shards cause im done honing weapaon so like me getting the destruction crystals from frog on those characters are useless

