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Sooo no honing buff to 1415-1445

ahh relic good, try to make as many pieces as you can. armor is more important than anything else, you want to get the set going asap
Wait did you have to buy relic gear for the level 4…?
nope
Wouldn’t that cost more pheons
yeah, only relic can have +4s. and yes it does, but you resell the armor (unless it's out of trades) and so only lose the pheons. this is still very worthwhile as improving tripods is an INCREDIBLY cost effective means of boosting power
Yeaah I read the patch note

we wont get one ever
Yeah I get it. So pretty much the only way thisll cost more is if a person is selling a relic piece with 2/3 level 4s vs. a level
Well I heard kr got 5% before no? 1415-1445
bingo
nobody has any honing buffs above 1415
you have to trade up saving space (buying less pages) vs the raw cost of buying a combined one (which you might be able to resell at that price, might not)
Wait so if that’s the case then there’s nothing wrong with buying a perfect 3/3 lvl 4 then?
those are nearly impossible to find and are almost certainly more expensive than buying 3 separate pieces
Wait what are you reselling?
there isn't but it's gonna cost a lot and there'll be less people buying it. unless someone wants all three on the item, they won't get the expensive one
the relic gear isn't consumed when you copy the skills, you can resell it after (as long as it hasn't been used this way 3x before)
Oh sweet
you don't get the pheons back but you get however much you can resell it for
Not bad thanks guy I finally understand this now, ty
I mean there is no time to resell now tbh
we saved 1 soul from ragequitting
And I do understand the hype for kanji as well
yes everyone is trying to resell everything so the market is flooded with untradeable/1 trade left pieces and undercutting like mad
that line means you can't resell
otherwise you're good
and yeah kanji is a beautiful but intimidating system haha
i just finished valtan HM and seems like the material is not enough , is it supposed to be like that
yeah, you won't be able to get a full set in one clear
try to grab the box at the end which gives you an extra 5, really people won't normally bid over 500g for it unless they also need it for gear
Wait what? Zeals just literally says increased honing odds and decreased honing cost they just don’t include in the patch notes.
Hyper express char only
what video is this exactly
Watch it in yt he just posted the video about the patch
Yes it can be part of the hyper express. But not global
Yeaah the selected hyper pass character only
3% 5% is huuggeeeee
Maybe more idk
if that's true then they didn't say shit about it and therefore it's unconfirmed, but maybe it's true if it was in other regions
Yeaaah I hope it’s true cause they got it in kr

the only thing they said was +12 to +15 on 1302 gear is now a base success rate of 30% which is...already what we have, and i have no idea wtf ags is on
If I use the express pass on a character past 1302, I'll still get the earlier rewards as long as I do the quests in the pass right?
Yeah. We’ll see. Just find out tomorrow. Hyper express in KR has typically given honing buffs for the express char
30% in 1302 don’t do anything cause it literally doesn’t cost any mats
it costs enough mats to worry about for new players
Yeaaah

but the point i was making is that that is not a buff because it is already base 30% success to hit +15, so their patch notes make no sense
I think they mean base before global boosts?
you think so?
oh i guess there is going to be a honing buff linked to the event for once
for twice, we got one like that very early in the launch
...if they're not lying, which they could be
They did this for the last hyper express to 1370 too
they had it in kr for this pass 
you mean for arcana? that was a global buff that happened to launch at the same time
no, before that
No, there was a hyper before that
oh that's too far for me to remember then
there was no honing buff linked to arcana pass
the express before that was glavier, which wasnt a honing one, so was no honing buff, i dont think?
when people picked their main instead of alts, coz the ilv wasnt locked at "after ilv 1370 you cant pick the char" etc
the first community riot
Shrug I definitely remember a hyper express (ie the one which had no missions and was just pure honing)
the glaivier one then, i don't remember any honing buffs attached but i could be wrong
no honing buffs attached
machinist? haha
No it wasn’t glavier
It was arcana I think
It was when the argos busses went to 3k
but arcana did not have a honing buff attached to the event, that was a simultaneous global update that happened to launch simultaneously
ahh, people will pay a lot if they need the gear
there was no honing bonus with arcana express either
it just coincided with global rates
only 7k? imagine being that poor
yeah people avoid inviting new classes to raid lobbies for a bit. the gigachad move is to invite 2
so if the upcoming express event does have a honing boost attached to the event, it will be the first one of its kind
Can someone tell me how long eternity isle questline is? Im considering rapport bombing something for gold before they disappear
GUY EMERGENCY
What's the best way to get materials for crafting purple potions? I seem to be lacking on blue flowers the most
I JUST GOT A 1 TAP 19 to 20
plat fields if you have the tickets
thanks for the information anomie i'm super happy for you as i pity my entire set of gear
and pref foraging 30
oh yeah I've actually got like 10 plat fields tickets I've never used because I was told to wait until I maxed out all the lifeskills
Don’t need max all. Just foraging 30
Question so if I wanted to could I use my level 3 tripods page which is my main rn and buy 4s and start replacing 1 by one? @blazing badger
mining 30 to easily unlock one (unnecessary) part of the map, foraging 30 for extreme speed/efficiency, otherwise doesn't really matter (assuming you do the top one)
if i buy all 8 lvl 4 one man army tripods, will the lvl4 selection consumables be roster bound or character bound?
what is inferno run for ?
AH is bad for potion materials
you could but it's probably best if you have a page saved for what you're using right now, and then fill other pages with level 4s to fill in the gaps
unless you're gonna buy literally all 18 level 4s, in which case no harm
d*ck measure contest
It’s better to buy potions outright or to buy from Maris iirc
Inferno gives achievements and some other rewards
Just in case right? I don’t want to buy all pages I’m poor rn since I’m jus starting to play again had burn out but I can’t stay away anymore lol
depends on server and bc prices
inferno is just for a title and a statue, you gain nothing more from it
i don't believe they specified exactly what would happen if you had multiple copies of the same removed tripod or if they were charbound, but i would imagine it's charbound since tripods are charbound
yeah just in case you don't fill everything, just so you won't log on weaker than you were today
whether you get 1 or 8, who knows
they said they gonna put them in the universal storage, so that's a "we have no idea" (tripods for removed skills)
oh it does say that...hmm
i think in patch notes it says universal storage so idk if i wanna risk buying them because i wanna gear an alt bard
Issue with that is I already have 1 level 4 tripod on me right now lol that’s why I asked for that niche situation
bard? bruh, nah
i would understand if reaper, but bard can live with lv4 tripods (lv3s)
you might as well just buy them on the bard directly now if you wanted to do that, how much more expensive could it be
a new bard, as in powerpass tomorrow
ah
i wouldnt use them for bard, myself, idk
I wouldn’t worry about bard lol. It’s qol. Bard tripods won’t realistically save a run.
yea i guess its not worth stressing about
Im saying that as a bard main
You will save more runs learning how to use rhapsody
just feels smoother playing with them, i have a 1480 bard too. I dont wanna think about tripods after
just 1tap them ez
i have yet to hit a legit lvl 4 tripod 
Double chance post patch so
No takers? I guess I’m doing blackfang then
I’m searching for final strike tripod in AH but it’s saying it doesn’t exist…. Is that true?
check your filters
will pay 4000 gold for NNN vykas , fuck it better than nothing
shore
i smell the fomo in the air
anyone done the math, is is worth buying solars and that other stuff off the AH for enhancing weapons or do you just rawdog the hones?
there are plenty of calculators for that and basically all of them will tell you it's significantly more expensive on average to buy solars to hone over just raw honing twice for equal artisan energy
if you're gambling on success then you better pray to some benevolent gods
how many hours before MT
less than 8?
yeah like enough time to get shit done but not enough time to take a nap
No
no gems are character based
Is maintenance still at 3 AM EST in spite of recent daylight savings change?
should i craft the weapon first for relic eq ?
shards
No generally not because it’s more expensive, uses more materials, and you can end up with bad quality
You want the set bonus faster so armour first, generally
it was 3am EDT and now it's 2am EST
...wait no that doesn't sound right
maintenance will be at 3am EST (which would've been 4am EDT), reset is at 5am EST
they pushed maintenance back an hour but the reset time hasn't changed relative to utc
question for you guys - my main is only 1432. should i use an alt for this event/express or my main even though it's so close to 1445? new to these events so i'm not sure what all comes with it.
an alt for sure
is it a waste of materials to hone past +15 on legendary gear?
Definitely alt because it'll soon be able to generate as much gold as your main which will speed up your account's progression
below t3 yes, at t3 no
thx guys. if i'm reading this correctly, this event won't be duplicated for summoner release?
yeah I mean at t3, just wanted to make sure it’ll transfer to relic, ty
should i be upgrading to legend legion gear or swap straight to relic when i have enough
the upcoming event will still be active for summoner release (according to their own words), so you can save it for then
relic
ok should i just dismantle these vein or is there some other use?
doesn't sound like there will be an extra event though, so if you don't want a summoner you might as well use the powerpass and event rewards immediately
Anyone know exactly what the gold from rapport will be replaced with? I'm thinking maybe it's a good idea to rush the rapport of all npcs with gold today
No evidence, but I think they'll just replace it with silver, no?
might be something better than gold?
They did that with some of the older gold rapports back in like April to prevent easy gold botting..
But logically speaking they wouldn't like, for example put legy engraving books in them since that's basically gold. Though maybe they could theoretically make them bound
they said they were replacing it with books and stuff but nothing specific for each reward
very unlikely to be leg books, but other rarities yes
Pretty sure there will be books in there, doubt it will be legendary lol
Maybe purples if we're lucky, but most likely blues/greens
Aight I guess it's time to put this stockpile of rapport items to good use
don't punika rapport npcs have leggo engravings?
it's rng, the pouches they give also have purple in pool
ah okay thx didn't know that
Loving the bot measures tho, they really seem like they made an effort
quick question about tripod update: i know to save tripods into your tripod inventory, but do the tripods you have on your armour right now ALSO get learned, or do i have to put those in my tripod inventory as well? saw a video saying armour equipped tripods do not get learned, so i just want a clearer answer.
only inventory matters for the update
Tripods on armor is lost
well good thing i learned that now.. damn that kinda sucks
Most people will end up buying the third tripod page, its normal if you wanna buy all 18 tripods for a class
Yup, but we've known about the Tripod Change as early as July/August, thanks to KR, and knew it would eventually come to NAEU. We've had time to prep. I bought 2000 Pheons when BC was around 1800 gold, and now I'm down to 750 after buying nearly max tripods for 11 classes lol
You're not wrong.
how would yall price this
It would differ from region to region, you should search it up on your market board, look at recent prices also.
i did. no recent for anything
check all quality
because awk + ether dont really go well together
Yeah, did you remove the quality filter? Everyone forgets that and it shows 0 results lol
oop
I imagine this would be considered the "cheap engravings combo", putting Awakening and DoE together, so I imagine it's not worth much.
awakening and drops of ether is like top tier support engravings
^
i mean, it's fine. DoE is meh. it's a cheap engraving regardless. i'm not saying it's worth nothing but DoE 5 isn't like megabucks
heavy armor
that's for bards
people don't even care about support engravings passed the main 3 (4 if you count heavy armor), so idk how much demand there is for a DoE neck
there is some demand
yeah but some rather than high already means it's not super high value
some demand, so i imagine its a mid priced neck, like 10-20k. like RFP said, nothing big bucks.
mines the blue qual one. i think i priced it well then
yeah, looks fine
some is better than 0
thats better than i thought yeah
15k is already juicy enough
meh, depends on recent prices tbh
waiting for the day they make crit do something on supports 
crit heals
yall think this could still sell? 
no
reaper use adren 3?
yeah i'll give you a single chaos shard for that
ask #reaper
btw these are the recent prices for the drops 5 awakening 3 neck. i think i have a shot at selling it
and 25pheons
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im of the mindset anything will sell if you list it long enough

Is there some way to check if a accessories is worth selling?
like if you drop a good accessories but you dont knoiw and dismantle it
click on it and search, put quality to 0
but like to filter each and every accessory you drop
should i make the poem of salvation weapon first instead hallucination ? i just finished my first valtan HM and vykas NM
in the above neck situation, spec is good, endurance is kek so...
Can u trade with people from different servers in your stronghold ?
searching accessories is the straight forward way of doing it yeah. most people have good "combinations" memorized by now.
swift crit and spec, or a combination of 2 of the 3, with good engravings, gotta memo them all ;D
so any stats other than crit swift spec combination is bad?
then we check for engravings?
pty much
thats pretty much how i do it yeah
ok ty
i hover over my dropped accessories for like 2 seconds, i see that it has end/exp/dom, i throw it in the bin
thats what i do mostly as well but idk much about engravings tho
gotta learn then, there is a pic of good engravings at #info-dump , favorite them, then set autodismantle
i think there's some weird meme set that uses disrespect broken bone engraving along with exp or dom i forget which, but like just don't
i favorite these. some of them are kinda niche, like you'll almost never see them, but i still check them some times
oops broken bone not disrespect
talking about the broken bone sorc in clown?
deals like 40 health bars after clown's card phase or something insane lol
btw whats the most popular class?
10 seconds of glory ;D
Sorc. If you mean created as popular. See so many new players making them.
its okay to upgrade my argos weapon to +18 right since it can transfer to hallucination weap
bots really like sorc
i mean like most played in like late game content
Question for arti is freeze she’ll freeze bullet?
how i could restore tool durability? i forgot :))
Yea piano sorc feels like a bot. Just hit buttons in repeat like a script
restoration tokens
Supports.
why i cant create characters
shadowhunters a popular alt (until people realize its 5x3 is like a bajillion gold xd)
you have characters in universal storage, so you can't create any new ones
correct, more than 0, which is the amount of characters in universal storage you must have to create new characters
I say any char with crit synergy for late game. I worship lance master and wardancer a
i forgot how to use them
you either delete characters you don't want or buy a whole bunch of character slots
oh god, nvm im blind
in the reapair tool window you have option to restore quality
does ur pet pick up drops?
that's like 80% of its purpose
loot you mean, y
if your inv is full, it goes into pets inv
yes, did you skip the mandatory pet tutorial at the very start of the game?
yes i did
oh, well in that case yes pet just picks stuff up like you would manually but automatically
is it okay to upgrade my argos to +20 ? it was transferrable the exact +20 when i transfer to hallucination weapon , is this correct?
yes
Question for arti is freeze shell the same as freeze bullet? And when it changes can I choose what tripod to upgrade?
Yo is life skill farming actually profitable?
no
Oh
yes it is
Oh?
it is
i just do it when im bored
that's why you're poor 😄
i mean its free money in the end
(jk dont hate me)
I did excavating back in May in hopes of hitting the jackpot with tool kits but it never happened :(
How about fish tho? I like fishing
check on your market, on euc is rather meeeh
Dang I'm euc
it's free money if your time is worth nothing
is the archaloege request daily bugged? i keep finding the ppl that spawn randomly on the map but when i talk to them they say somthing and disappear and my quest is still at 1/3
oh ok makes sense so i just keep talking until i get the +1
everytime i want to start getting achievements i realize how many are broken or not even obtainable right now
Hey, curious guys... Should I keep all the tripod gear that don't sell, or scrap all tripod gear before reset downtime?
I already have all my tripods set up in the tripod inventory, all saved up for tomorrow
it wont get deleted, but im not sure if youll be able to sell it again...
for 5x3 you need atleast 1 x12 book right?
table at #info-dump but iirc yes
yesterday it was linked here a few times
where is this board? checked guild and wiki cant find it
alt + q
not unlocked yet
you know where chaos dungeon stone is?
map also probably says where it is if you search for it...
nope, I typed "guardian, board, ur'nil" etc and cant find it
in which city are you?
Wheres the button to change up engravings?
why doesnt it tell me its in a tottaly diff place?
rania village isnt a city
char settings at the top
omg, i hate this game. im at the board and it tells me i need to do quest.
thats why im fucking here
lol thats just a taste of things
go to castle vern or whats called...
im there, at the board.....
now type in map "raid"
I am at the BOARD.
then click on the board
is there still no way to transfer things between friends?
mounts, skins, etc... no way to trade any of that beside market?
just coming back from months of being away
via mail if your on same server
you can transfer skins now through mail?
some are tradable
if they are tradable yes
cool, thank you. I'll make sure first
sister and her bf quit the game months ago and have tons of crystals left so i'm trying to maximize that
if you talked to that shitty board, look around here for a shiny rectangle and press "Complete quest" or smt
the quest is a guide quest and it should only be talk to it and done
i found it. you have to find in hidden quests to accept a random certificvate quest. its not displayed on the map.
then it allows you to talk to the guy near board and continue
hidden? do you mean "GUIDE"?
hidden is a strong word for something that won't shut up about telling you to do it every time you log in
there are actual hidden quests in this game, but that one isnt one of them
is guard raid something i do solo too?
preferably with party members
you can... but with gear at boss lvl, itll be hard, or impossible
noone is doing this
its almost 2 in the morning, and yes t1 and t2 stuff isnt being done anymore
later today* theyll be changing how guardian raids go, you wont have to complete previous ones anymore
its soloable if you're wondering
is lvl 5 skills the max? (with lvl 4 tripods)
yes
What should I expect in new update tommarow?
a lot
If I made a character but didnt choose a subclass yet in trixion, can i delete the character and reuse the name again right away?
yes
y
you can also choose a subclass go into the world and check skills there a bit, but dont level up to 11
Is there any downtime when deleting a character and creating a new one on that slot?
no
ty
Only if it is above lv 10, then there is a deletion pendibg timer
how expensive is an arcanist engraving 4x3 (emperor or empress)?
depends on market, engravings, you should ask in the arcana channel
rip, i forgot about my rested bonus i had going 
rip
Is mechanist a good alt character? Thinking of using this pass on one
legacy is pretty good and cheap
its good lopang slave
Doing Alaric's, but don't understand the eel shark mech
one team goes to shark other to other boss
when other boss is dead or near dead, little balls spawn
you have to find a golden ball and kill it, and bring it to center and stand there
Hii Anyone know and can tell if they Updated the Accecoire Chests from Weekly Guardian in KR when they got Brel to Select the Higher iLvl Chest for Guaranteed Relic Only? I know we are able to open higher ones w Brel Normal and hard but do they update ? Example a friend is thinkin of using them rn for reaper alt or save them for Artist later and open 1490 Boxes with Relic only drops
they never upgrade if you already have them, at least for the current chests
if you dmg any of black balls, your screen will get darker until you cant see anything
A bit confused. I mean, I got OHKO as a 1420 scrapper in that run, IDK how to avoid that. Does everyone have to find one orb each?
and when the 2 partys meet, both stand in the circle
if you dont stand in the circle, you dead
gold orb = safe area inside
outside of = deadge
thats why the one who got the circle should stand still, and not move
Okay, so is that spot indicated on the map, or do I follow where people are?
if youre on shark, wait till other party comes down to you, then go to them
Been like 4 - 5 months since I did the dungeon. Was doing it to finish Nineveh bird quest
need to do it again on a few more alts
thats a roster wide quest no?
no
does anyone have a link to the new skill builds for barrage arty and gravity destroyer?
In terms of events that will get me more mats to hone with which is that one for this update?
rip his sanity then
i have done that quest only on 2/7 chars
what do you even get from it?
if there are any then the class channel pins would probably have them #artillerist #destroyer
bit roster points
Nope, individual char quest
anyone have updated rewards sheet for abyss dung/abyss raid/legion raid?
godspeed brother
Can you skip feiton by grinding in yorn all the way to 1100?
you can yes but feiton has a nice daily una for leapstones
Guys, question please. I'm scrambling to finish my tripods. Does the new tripod system still need to be piece by piece like it is now . What I mean is let's say I find a level 4 of something i need on gloves but i need another piece and there is only a lvl 4 on gloves.. is the new one like that too? Or can we just put them on anything. I hope that made sense
new system is the same as before, just that instead on items, youll have lvls in library
Quick Question
If youre alts are at 1370, there is no way to cheese lvl5 tripods with them right? cause for lvl4 you need to be 1415 to get access to the item, even from AH
I don't really understand. Are you talking about saving tripods now so they transfer over to the new system?
correct
Yes, so I'm trying to figure out is when the new system comes does it matter what piece of gear it was on? You know how sometimes you can have 2 level 4s on your gloves and you have to try and sage one over?
I dont think I'm making any sense lol
new one doesn't bound to armor, it's bound to your char
Ok awesome so as long as a level 4 is in your inventory you can put it on any piece?
but there is also still gambling, if thats what you want to know
yes
there wont be any piece, in your skills youll just select lvl
Make sure you're aware we're talking TRIPOD INVENTORY, not ITEM INVENTORY here
Yeah I'm talking tripods
having the item in your inventory doesn't save anything, you need it saved to the tripod storage screen
so buying slot is cheaper than getting 2 lv4 on 1 gear 
Example. I have 1 level 4 on each piece in my saved tripods for my striker but in the second tab I have 3 pieces with level 4s on them
If you want to cheese it and avoid the gambling part, save EVERY tripod in your TRIPOD STORAGE INVENTORY
all that is saved youll be able to select lvl5 under skills (K)
you'll have both
its just dumb that tripods from gear doenst transfer too, but thats how it is.
I domt understand what will happen to the ones I have on say my gloves. Like my gloves in tab one has a level 4 but the gloves in tab 2 has a level 4 as well lol
after the update
Ok thanks guys that makes me feel so much better. Lol
its its different skills, both of those will get lvl5s
if its same skill twice, only highest will be saved
So do our level 4s turn into level 5 with the new system?
yes
Nope different skills. Cool thanks. Sorry. This is kinda confusing lol. So glad you guys are here. Haha
because new ones will start with lvl1, not as now when you have to apply lvl1
base tripod lvl is always Lvl1
so lvl1 + lvl4 = lvl5
you will see also then only lvl5 in your skill book, not lvl4 anymore
Ok awesome. In that case I only have 3 more characters to buy level 4s for. Thanks guys!!!
6h left, better hurry
another tip:
just focus on primary tripods for your class/build
saves a lot of pheons
if you have a lot of alts, just get primary tripods
Yeah! That's what I'm using. 'm only buying the main 6 plus whatever secondary I can find on a piece of gear! That should be fine you guys think
i mean an alt is an alt, no need to treat it as a maincharacter. so yeah.
Shadowhunter cost me like 14 pheons only to get all primary tripods at lvl5 
Yeah me too. Haha. I maybe be going a bit overboard I guess but I have the gold and pheons so I guess why not. Main 6 gems and offshoots for like 12 characters lol
depends on your class, some classes benefit dramatically more from tripods whereas iunno bards and paladins are probably fine with 6
i think my paly has 7 tripods, 8 tops, bard around the same
lvl 4 to lvl 5 tripods is literally just mixmaxing, as long as you're not running around with zero tripods, having your alts be at lvl 3-lvl4 tripods is absolutely fine
lv4 to 5 is like 6 to 9 % dmg per skill for my wd. prob even more
but im bad at math, i just know its very good and stronk
why wouldnt you do it if you have the chance
anyone know what gear to exchange as a fresh 1370? Playing igniter and all the guides are wearing preordained
so we dont use "chosen" set at all ?
old guides
you use chosen weap
the chosen set is considered a waste of gold because you'll use it for a week or less and the set effect is very weak
and if you're a new player then you'll probably be starved for gold as is, as well as silver to transfer etc
will the express event still be up after the update?
people often buy the weapon, however, since the preordained set has a 2-piece and 5-piece bonus, so you can go chosen weapon + 5 armor pieces to get the set bonus - this gives you the weapon quicker and doesn't compete with argos blood for the preordained upgrades
yes
would the warddancer feel like sticker ?
you're mistaken chosen and argos my boi
i believe chosen doesnt even have a set bonus
is it possible to full afk 1 member in brel bus?
or like clown where they need to do some mech
bruh
as in there'll be new express the old one we have rn will be gone
ah alright, that clears it up tyvm for the advice c: !
today's way of gearing your character is 3 argos 3 chosen, speedrun to 1415, get to valtan asap to start getting relic items for your relic armor at 1445
@silver rain talking about the old one rn. saids it ends tomorrow but does that mean at the end of the day?
when maintenance starts you're sol
@rose jewel my sol?
you're out of luck
maint start = servers down = no more express = new express comes
you have like 5hrs at max from now to claim all you can before it poofs
or 4 or 3 idk, not much
i got 3 legendary gear at rank 12 rn. should i try to rank them up before the update?
we already answered that to you, no
if there's expiring books i suggest you do use them all
I'm thinking of taking bets on AGS and patch update... something like this.
"Heroes of Arkesia!
We regret to inform you that there was an accident. Your tripods saved to the inventory for the transfer to the new library system has been deleted. Our sincere apologies."
Or some shit like that lol... Wouldn't put it past AGS. What are the chances of this happening?
hey guys, I've got a question regarding strongholds, are the korean versions more advanced than ours? Or is the lvl cap also 70 and no new researches that for example would help advance characters beyond 1415?
I'm taking screenshots of every page of my tripod inventory on every character so I have proof just in case AGS pulls another fast one on us. I suggest you guys do the same.
there's no stronghold buff for honing after the 1415, we've got all of it
it's be allright as long as they're on library
unlikely there should be a back up anyway in case they fuck up thats why merge took so long cuz they have to back up everything
Guys when I wake up and log in tommarow what’s main thing I should expect so I can get free mats?
Hello! Do someone experience freezes while in arena?
Even still, better safe than sorry. Considering I spent 500 phenos and 150+ level 4 tripods across 7 chars for this library drop.
you're overpanicking
Y
Nah, just wanna stick it hard to the game RNG
over panicking is the name
Got every char their 18 tripods, plus all the tripods for their alternative builds (igniter Sorc and red GL)
i got tripods on 8 chars, and i still think you're panicking for no reason
Nah, I do this, I get 100% level 5 tripods on everything. Never have to deal with tripod transfers again or low % RNG or scrounging around for Sage Powder.
I‘m paranoid rn, do we have to LOCK the individual tripod rows in the inventory or does it not matter if they are unlocked as long as they are just saved in tripod inventory?
doesnt matter
Thank you now I can sleep with peace of mind LMAO
Guys I’m poor and could only afford tri pods all 3lvl and 1 lvl 4 on each of my 6 pieces. Is this ok….
?…
i will wake up tomorrow for extended maintenance, servers on fire and forums about to explode, will be fun
@rose jewel plz help
merges were literally harder than this cuz it was their new territory and they manage to pull thru
Just a bit paranoid after what AGS just pulled on us last night / this morning
Legion Raid
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Clear Rewards,Chest Rewards
Gold,Tailoring Book,Legendary Materials,Relic Materials,Accessories,Ability Stones,Stone of Chaos,Fused Leapstone,Chest Price,Legendary Materials,Relic Mater...
is there a place in game to find level 1 raid parties? Matchmaking is taking forever and the "Find party" is just bots advertising irl trade
nobody does those nowadays and even fewer are going to carry through after tomorrow because they won't be mandatory first clears to access later content
how do new players get their dailies souls for guardians?
you can create pt finder label the room 'help' or something
or just... solo it 😄
i died trying to solo lol
:c
im stuck in the game where i cant get to rowendell because my item level isnt high enough and i cant solo the dungeons to get the materials to hone lmao i can only do chaos dungeons/daillies
there are a lot of honing mats from different sources that a new player can take advantage of, guardian raids are not one of them unless you can find someone to carry you or you solo it
ok ty ill check that out
say what was the promised compensation for the pheongate?
they didn't say anything other than
We are currently evaluating options for a make-good gift, and will provide an update within 24hrs on the compensation all players will receive.
jk they also said this
Despite the fact that plans are still being finalized, please know that we are planning to deliver this compensation to players with the game update on November 16th.
Free stuffs 
oh i didnt see that part
neither did i apparently
they havent said anything on twitter or in patch notes so
After using a Punika Powerpass whats the most efficient way to get a character to 1460?
hone all equal all the time
i made my own party and wrote help and some level 1500 came and 1 shot the raids for me lmao such a kind soul =']
that's how we vets help kind little mokokos
i can only get the gear related to my class from these raids right? like if I get a ring its going to be for berserker (my class) and not for some other one right?
yeah you cant get engravings from other classes, but you also wont get any class engravings guaranteed early on, they only drop guaranteed at argos and abyss hard
i mean for like rings, earrings, necklace
Only in Argos and abyys hard like he said
all accs can be used by all classes, the only thing that sets them apart are engravings and those very don't matter early on
I basically got like 4 of the same rings with different qualities, I just keep the one with the highest quality and dismantle the other 3?
ohhh
That depends if it has the stats and engravings you need
like someone just carried me through one of the raid 1 dungeons and I got 4x "Splendid Vanguard Earrings" all 4 give me +415 strenght +218 vitality but they are all at different qualities, I'm supposed to use this right?
Like I got none with dexterity or intelligence - which makes sense cause berserker wouldn't use those anyways right?
Yes but like I said it depends on the stats and engravings, stats aren't dexterity, intelligence etc they are Specialisation, crit, expertise etc which are your combat stats
all accs have all the str/dex/int stats, they just gray out the ones that you don't use
if you were a gunslinger, you will be using dex, other 2 will be greyed out, if you were a mage, int, etc
OHHHH this is making more sense now lmao, I see of the earrings 1 gives me +155 swiftness and the other gives me +157 expertise
use the swift one
Yeah those ones are what you want
Now that depends on your build which one is gonna be useful for you
and for builds you can either enter the channel of your class, get yourself the #navigation , or maxroll.gg
I'm just trying to play the main story lol everything else is way over my head. They've got systems for cards, gear, skill, boats, stronghold, etc my brain hurts from it all lol
maxroll.gg has good info on all of those
But if you aren't tier 3 yet I wouldn't worry about everything, especially accesories
it genuinely does not matter what you get from ilvl 302 to 1100, as long as you put on something with spec/crit/swift
Some high lever player gave me a ton of mats since they didnt need them anymore so I got to item level 500 and I can go to rowendell now lol
frankly it probably won't even matter if you put on any accessories with end/exp/dom
Yeah just hone and do msq for now and keep reading about the systems on the side
but if you had a choice you use spec/crit/swift
Yeah I just picked the ones with the highest quality and dismantled the other ones already =S but ill keep it in mind for future
No need to get into them rn
if we gonna have South Vern power pass sold by crystal after update tomorrow, does that mean we gonna have knowledge transfer for South Vern as well? or just max KT is Punika. thanks guys!
Max kt is Punika
guys how to load the char presets i downloaded from presets channel
Pins in #presets
Final moments before the update question, should i buy all necessary tripods right now and save them in the inventory asap before it changes ? Or should i wait for the update ? Just incase it will be easier to get skill tree upgrades after the update
Definitely save them now, after the update it is not guaranteed anymore and you need to gamble (granted the odds will be slightly higher)
Do it ASAP you can't get them after the update it's all rng
well right now you can save things to skill tree inventory at lv5 with a 100% success rate and after tomorrow the absolute best you'll get for lv5 tripods is a 20% chance to learn including using sage powder
100% vs 20%, pick your poison
idk why that's even a question but yeah, panic
havnt had the time to go thru the entire thing about tripods or the videos, so just hopped in and asked xD
Aight me off to buy 
i mean there are like 4 hours left so it's not exactly going to be cheap
and supports don't exactly need a ton of tripods
I'm assuming he doesn't play one char
nono, my main is a sorc- ahm
Would doomsday be enuf ? 
I think i remember having 2/3 of the nodes of +4, was missing one.
What else should i get ?
can someone help me with the StrongHold feasts and everything with it ?
You should get all 18 tripods on your main
You just pay the chef gold and mats to craft it lmao
there are some feasts that i have had from other players that i can't see in the menu, how do i get more options lvl 70 strong hold and researched everything
Might be the event feasts
damn
You need the special mats from the event vendor to craft the event feast
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edit : prev message got deleted. Idk what triggered the bot
don't panic... lol
You have it then
this
wait...what word is getting censored damn ..
Like it says the rest are rng I'm pretty sure
ahh okie
what you really need to decide right now is:
A) Put in a large deposit now for a "guarantee" and the peace of mind of not having to worry too much, if at all, about tripods
B) Put in 0 currency now and after the update hits casually and slowly raise your tripods
B is not recommended tbh
not recommended if you have the resources now*
b is perfectly fine for most people
B is recommended if you can't swipe and don't have the resources now
ty hambogir
Yeah that's why I said not recommended
quick question, if i have lvl3 and lvl 4 tripod, will only the highest be saved? and also they dont need to be in order or locked or whatever?
Highest yes, no and no
dont need to be locked, just saved in your skill tree inventory/library
any estimate how long the servers will be down for ?
ye but like...i dont have enuf ingame moneh to max out all tripods.... I only have them all to level 4.....
So maybe you could tell me which skills to focus on first apart from DD, so that i could maybe get like atleast 5/6 tripods to max
It's estimated 4 hours but just assume 6-8 given the patch history
Pins in #sorceress
ty dad

i mean... i guess you can go
DD - amp & asteroid
Explosion - amp & weakpoint
Punishing - amp & electric discharge
if you specifically want damage, but the utility tripods on other skills like rime arrow, frost call, and seraphic/esoteric are somewhat important too
what would be the most important tripods on either rime or frost ?
Enlightenment / more meter gain ofcourse right ?
yeah probably enlightenment on frost or quick prep on rime
okyy
Low spec should use enlightenment on rime right?
uhhh
i think ideally you still use prep, but im not sure how your rotation goes
the argument for prep is that you just cast more and do more damage
anyone not too busy to carry achates?
Ugh. Tripods are very time consuming when you wait till the last day on 12 characters. Lol. But I'm done.
Everyone else still busy working on them?
ummm what will happen to the broken equipment we already have ? will it be deleted ?
yeah, quick prep vs enlightenment on rime arrow is basically frontloaded damage with more rime arrows, or quicker igniter
no you keep it
ohh oky
do we know if the skins in Neria's wardrobe are gonna change tomorrow?
they are just straight up leaving
Is getting to 1650 the same as getting to 1490?
no its the same as getting to 1575
What are fused leapstones used for?
how do i open the special event tab that ends tomorrow?
special honing at the honing npc
free taps
what special event lol
Oh, do I just use them on whatever?
gift icon under minimap, called express event
o lul
fuseds are best used when you have 0 artisan energy, for if you succeed you dont waste mats
but yeh generally use them whenever, armors are cheaper
That makes sense. I guess I'll just yeet them onto my gloves
do i have to craft abyss gear before going to legion commander
You need the argos gear to hit 1415 itself so yes
Tripods
you cant buy them after the reset?
so what about the people who arent at tripods yet lol
You can but if you save them into your library rn it's a 100% chance to get them with the new system, and after reset with the new system the amulets are gonna be expensive af + it's a 10% chance only (20% with powder)
You're just gonna have to farm them from chaos ig, buying them will be pretty expensive
how do i even buy tripods
From the auction house
Are you t3?
Yuh
Yeah but what do they even look like
Currently they're on the broken gear, after update they're on amulets, if you're T3 you should've already unlocked the tripods feature
So I just buy a bunch of broken gear?
What ilvl are you
Tripods aren't stats, I suggest you read up about them on maxroll.gg
Nope, don't buy anything, in your case you'll have to farm them naturally later, I suggest reading up about them first
You should probably familiarize yourself with how tripods work or you'll just fk it up
^
It's not a simple "just buy this and you're good", watch a guide or something https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5p4PVX0Z58
Come back after you've watched that if you still have anything you dont understand
how am i supposed to know what tripods to have
Check the pins in #deathblade
how long b4 maintenance begins?
2 hrs
so skill tree and tripods is the same thing???
Not rlly, skill tree is where you select the tripods you're gonna use, and then with the tripod system you have to level them up
is it tru that honing mat becomes cheaper after this update so we shouldnt be honing any tier 2 gear for now?
Nothing of that sort, it's not like you're buying mats with gold anyways in tier 2
some of 1302-1370 gets easier with the update
Honing mat prices are dictated by the market, not the game.
+12 to +15 honing for ilevel 1355 to ilevel 1370 gets higher chance after the update
does it matter what tripod i put on what piece??
No it just matters that you have it saved
Don't buy tripods rn if you're doing that
wdym
You're not 1415 yet so you can't buy level 5 tripods, hence it's just a waste of pheons, and you'll need these pheons a lot as a new player
so basically after this update im fucked
Not rlly, the system is still the same but with increased rates
How should I roast him back?
yes, all players who aren't 1415 and have 18 tripods saved should just uninstall the game now /s
alr sounds good, now i can finally go outside and touch grass
What’s grass?
I seriously wanna know how old this guy is
I’m 16
i dont think hamborgir is referring to you
:c
I was 
oh boy do i love 30 percent chance to hone my gear
30%??
16 seems right for the kinda messages you post
AHAHAH I FAILED 4 TIMES IN A ROW
Yeah lol
It's all downhill from here
Wait till 2% per honing for around 3000 gold in mats per try, with 110 tries failstack

Anyone knows when we'll get relic runes ?
They don't exist
Only exist in data no way of getting them
Bruh.
There's even a rune that gives tenacity to your skill in the database

Yeah, i was hyped about it thinking about 100% braindead bard with 6 push immunities
Or tbh just wanted wealth and galewind
Does anyone know how to add Scouter and Reaper on the Checklist on google doc made by Ultizz/LeoChan?
Are you asking how to edit a google doc?
Make a copy and add it lmao
Make a copy thats editable, find the icon you want online, crop it to the size you want, and then add it to your copy of the document
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGOdo1bLunw Here's a video tutorial on how to cut and paste images in google docs
Lmaoo
/s
https://forums.playlostark.com/t/png-class-icons-inclusive-all-upcoming/385482 here's a forum link with all the class icons including unreleased classes
I assume you know how to duplicate the column functionality for the rest of the boxes?
yah
neria's dressing room skins are dyeable right
are they going to fix these dcs
no
is maint in 8 mins or in 1 hour I wasn't too sure since DST ended
68 mins
Hello, is there any info how hyper express will work? can i use it on a char from 1302 to 1415, claim the rewards, then choose another char from 1415 and claim rewards to 1445?
Dont think you can change the character
cannot confirm nor deny that, but in the past it has let you change characters midway, with certain stipulations. Be sure to read the details carefully
and by details you mean- after today's maintenance and the description ingame ?
one such stipulation was don't hone on the first character, lol
yes the description in game
this all the detail we have confirmed. wait 5 hours and you'll be able to find out ingame. in all probability, no.
What time will the maintenance start?
under 45min, supposedly
If it works according to Korea you can change as long as you don't accept the honing buffs on your current char
Ow okay thanks
that was my question - so it's not possible to hone char 1 from 1302->1415, then switch event to char 2 and hone 1415->1445
Is there really a honing buff? Kr streamers always talking that there’s a honing buff
You can, just don't accept the buff
Express
Yeah this one
you can choose to dont accept the buff?
the express itself gives a honing buff on the character you activate it on
If it works according to Korea yes, but like they said we don't have details yet
dont accept as in don't hone on it, i think
We can only wait and see
but yeah we gotta wait lul
You can hone till 1415 like he said, since the buffs are only after that
is it really
will it be a good idea to get the hyper express on a char that's close to 1445? will i be able to push upwards of 1460 with it what do u think?
Yes
You can do it if you have nothing else to use it on but the best is using it on a fresh 1302
not sure what kind of rewards are given from the express missions
It's just raw mats and a big chest at the end
if you need the mats that badly on your main... maybe
it's always better on main though right? since my main is so low nowadays
What's your main at
no point in getting another character to my main's ilvl, my main is around 1435 basically
If it’s like Kr version it’s not much for old player but it’s huge on a new players
You can get like 360 GHL 5-7k des stone and bunch of orehas and engraving books
If you wanna push your main sure, what would be the most efficient is use on an alt, push to 1370, park, push main to 1460, push alt to 1445, but if you enjoy your main and wanna do Vykas and Valtan hard on it why not
i'm a returning player it seems pretty useful for me, feel like it helps me catch up a bit i guess, if i get a lot of matts from the express event I hope to go above 1460
debatable, but i would use it on the main
I just don't see the value of having 2 characters with similar ilvl as my highest ilvl chars
that's what I was wondering about, always thought pushing main is the best idea as far as i can
Extra gold income. Although your main should be 1460 at least for the honing buffs.
Yeah this one is pretty debatable so tbh it's your choice at the end, you can't go wrong either way
yeah, I figured it's a good idea to get my main 1460 as fast as possible for the stronghold research
are they releasing new content or is it mainly a catchup/qol patch? are the players that are ahead going to be progressing further?
Catchup.
will all these tripod skill items disappear after update? should dismantle them?
they will stay
will I be able to get skills from them?
Tripods on your equipped items will disappear, broken armor and weapons will still be usable for tripod transfers.
Very important, tripods on usable equipment will disappear, not be learned. Make sure they are saved in the inventory system.
can i still DE after patch?
DE?
Adren instead of mass
Expensive
i'm pretty sure you can still dismantle the remaining broken armor pieces
cool
4x3 1 with relics quite easy
how long is gonna be the maintenance
how often do they do maintenances in this f'ing game
4 hours maybe
Every week
Have they confirmed how long maintennace gonna be?
4 hours probably
4 hours, or more
big update will most likely mean longer downtime
Is there a dating application for people in this game
probably in #lost-ark-discussions 
does anyone know how much are lvl 6/7 gems going around for on EUC? approximately?
7s were around 15k
ty
is there a recently updated dps chart anywhere?

I hope it’s possible to reach 1460 with express mats and with my mats😭🥴
should be 😮
Nooo. If we get the mats from kr version when they got 1445 express is not that much and I only have like 500 GHL in me and bunch of stones
I think I spent around 1,200 leaps to go from 1450 -> 1470 so you might be okay if you have the event mats
https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/y75t49/newest_dps_chart_is_out_in_korea_not_to_be/ my take: this is highly theoretical and should not be seen as a reflection of dps in raid situations. dps is not a useful metric in lost ark when there is a lot of downtime and it is also highly dependent on player skill.
I checked the event mats it will only give you 360GHL and after you hit 1445 it will give you an extra 200
200 is nothing for 3% if I’m unlucky

Ye I think you'll be close just keep farming mats throughout the week
Yeaaah hope so
It was about 1.4k for me from 1445-1475 as well.
why are you worried about 3%. 3% is only from 19 to 20, which is for 1490
Did you pity something while doing this?
Two pieces I believe yea, both armor.
I have below average luck so and remember it being 1 pity and one near pity (90% artisan)
Ow I have 5% to 17-19?
yes
Two piece is not bad😭 as long as it’s not a weapon🤣
Hope the honing buff is real for 1 character 
I will be moving to Australia soon, will I still be able to play the game and does any oceanic players know how the ping is there?
Not oceanic player but play with them, it's like around 220
what's the point in the game where people start asking for 5x3?
Thanks, do you happen to know if they use vpns? I know AGS banned the use of vpns to a degree to combat bots
Ummm no I'll have to ask when they get off work but yeah I can't say for sure
its maintenance currently 
noo 😭
@acoustic hamlet Aus here, lower half no less. 190-220, no VPN, very stable within that ping bracket
what's the highest ilvl requirement for any raid atm?
1475
oh, so kakul g3 is 1475 only?
yes
ty
If you are talking about pugs, clown
if we r currently tier 2 and havent completed all world quests, adventure quests, or side quests, what happens if we use a power pass on our first alt character?
- will that character be tier 3 or 2?
- will we need to complete redundant quests or are all world, advetnture, and side quests only needed to be completed once across entire roster
the servers are back?
Can't yse event powerpass to the continent u never done it
Aka if your main haven't done punika you can't use punika pp on alts
(Paid ones are exception)
Any expectations for update size?
World/story quests - ie story progression - is per character. You need to do them on all characters to progress. Though you have access to knowledge transfer to skip some of this if you want
On your equipped gear, yes
your tripod inventory will be saved over and all tripods on your gear will be removed. this new system just moves them into the skill window
If you didn't save it to inventory 
ngl, i will enjoy the forum posts.. "wth where are my tripods?!?!?!?!"
nothing, if u just saved them in the inventory
There was a Inventory button on the Tripod NPC, there you should have saved them and then u can put the lvl 5 tripods back on it after the servers are up again

does the hyper express have pheons rewards
YEP, when they didnt put them in the inventory they are fucked yep.
Welcome back
🙂
If it's in you bag, (normal inventory ) you can still try to transfer them with 20% chance
they gave players a ton of notice. can't really expect them to take into account people that dont even play their game anymore
actually a good one tho when ure active and using youtube for getting knowledge about this game, then you would have known this for about months that this is coming and u should have prepared right.
It's the tried and true "you snooze you lose" system. Similarly implemented just like the pheongate incident 
A completely normal system? This has been known about for months. If someone quit for this long and didn’t save in inventory before, then yeah, they’re fucked. Not sure why they deserve sympathy. If you quit a game this long you should expect to come back to a lot of changes
im actually curious, what we will get as a compensation xd
100% is more than 20%, that's why
If you did it before the update it was guaranteed. If you didn't it's rng
you are wasting rn only "pheons" and a bit of gold, after the update u will use more gold and pheons for getting them lvl 5 xd
It's a shame I've only been back a month. Only managed to get my alts level 4s cuz they aren't 1415 yet
oh no.. unlucky x.x
Still better than nothing atleast
couldnt do my tripods for my pala cause i legit build him 2 days before the update KEKW now hes 1398 xD
Yeah I just bought legendary +3s for my bard
sheesh
Figured guaranteed level 4s would be better than gambling later
If I 1302 with free punika, then 1100 rc to sv pass for 1370, will I still be able to slot the character on hyper express and backtrack the missions?
ngl thats so hard to read xD
Plus who would hate on a support with +4s right 
Especially since you can't inspect tripods anymore
you would actually getting instantly picked even with +1 lol
Why are you doing that? Is there even a SV pass?
supports are a rare species thats why i gonna change my roster to 80% supports xD
Yes
after the update theres a south vern pass
The hyper express will get you to 1370 anyway?
I want to rush 1415 in one day
That's why
But you can do that anyway without the SV pass
usually to know the price of an item you have to sell you check the market isn't it? Though yesterday I checked to see how much I can sell a tier 3 level 4 gem, and I saw prices in the 600/700 range, but also people who had put prices at insane amount of money like 2000 or more golds... I think I even saw a 16000 something...
I would still need 3/3 legendary swap between oreha and argos
Just hone normally and do oreha HM and Argos
And I am unsure if I will get all the mats in one lockout
Or do I get all mats needed?
If you buy all boxes
u need them actually otherwise u cant craft ur legendary gear after 1370 lol
You get everything you need from oreha HM and argos p3 for 3/3
I need to buy all boxes, right?
You buy boxes
Ah okok. Sweet
Yes, and craft chosen oreha weapon
Yea well i'll 3/3 anyway
The high amounts are RMT trades
10$ to skip the work also would do the job 
oh ok. So what is the correct price of such a gem? Like 600/700 gold seems a fair amount?
For full argos gear
But mah cards 
Whatever the common price is
Oreha one?
whatever the lowest gold for one listed is
SV cards
Wait which ones
SV story gives a lot of card packs
Cards from all the quests
Tbh it also gives a decent amount of mats
Ah well, okay. I think I'll do the 1302 to 1370 manual hone rush then. After that I'll bus argos buy all box + oreha hm box
And 3/3. Then manual hone to 1415
This would be the play I think
That’s what I would do. You’re wasting the early mats from hyper express otherwise
Oh well you are right
You should be able to get to 1445 in a day anyway
Big brain plays from bard main 
Or rather, in like an hour
Wait how. Aren't the missions like, timegated?
No? It’s a hyper express. There are no missions
Like the last hyper express? Do 2x soul harvests and stuff?
The last express was a story express
Oooooh
Nah we haven't got story express yet last one is just old express. Story express literally required you to play thru all the story up to s.vern
Yeah im just being lazy. I think some KR people refer to the mission express stuff as “story express”
The true hyper express (like the one we should be getting here) is the insane one where you just get everything without having to do missions
Oooooh I see
Didn't know. Tyvm
Now makes me i wonder when they'll be releasing story express for us
So I just sit and afk hone to get rewards. Sweet
oh so we wont even need to do missions like the last one to 1415? we just get everything for free this express?
Basicly yes
That should be the case. I guess we won’t know for sure until they release it. But KR streamers think this one should be similar to what they got for artist which is yeah, no missions, just cracked honing
Well I'l have scuffed 3/3 gear but oh well, nobody cares about full argos rn
And what should I craft? 3 argos armor + 2 oreha armor + oreha weapon?
Correct.
I mean, no one cares at all, and the express goes to 1445 - you will have your first relic 2p this week if you continue to 1460
Ayo sweet
2x Oreha Chests and Argos Chest, don't even need to buy a bus anymore either since it'll all be 1370.
Oh well yea
just dont take reapers and problem is solved
I literally just got to 1445 on my main yesterday. Should I still use the event on that character? Or should I go with someone else?
Since I have two other t3 characters
Someone else
Overall it'd be better to have it on a 2nd character most likely. Not that you can put it on a 1445 in the first place.
excuse me, how long until maintenance is over?
2-24 hours.
You got plenty of time to do normie stuff like touching grass, dw
already came back from the gym, so grass has been touched
What did you train?
In that case, GL or Machinist?
Don't ask me, pick whatever you want to play.
That's the problem. I like both
RNG picker them then 
flip a coin
chest, triceps, shoulder, abs and finished with cardio
it would be easier to get into groups with GL
Absolute unit
GL does no damage so if youre ok with that and like its playstyle/usefulness it provides to teammates play it
I'm gonna train shoulders and forearm today
GL it is then. Stagger and tank is stupid fun
beast! my motto is: better health = longer gaming hours 
l guess l got time to continue with the other MMO l was trying then!
It's wither pr or er 
seems like some people are trying to force their way in 
Bots 💀
Definitely bots
If you can cope with weird GL movement yeah it’s good. I personally find it gets worse in later content especially with gauge management in eg clown, where you can’t really just sit and tank everything. So just consider that. I’m personally never honing my 1460 GL again because I never want to do kakul gauntlet on that thing
taking into consideration how some people never touch grass, l would guess some out of those 6,4k are humans with bot-like-life 
Machinist on the other hand is getting a buff and can be another easy/cheap transformation alt which takes no brainpower.
lm so happy that yesterday night before l went to sleep, l fixed lvl 5 tripods for 5 of my chars
I'm gonna reroll rs sf and won't have tripods on it 

Guess lvl 4 ones from cd will suffice
Hmm. Is machinist similar to SH in terms of investment?
So just a two gem situation

