#lost-ark-help
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Can you get the full rewards from doing moake and thunder Wing, even if your like ilvl1370?
Moake sure, if you're in a party. Thunderwings, not until 1445.
Does it have to be in a pt?
You won't have a chance to deal enough damage for full loot.
90% of your attacks will be blocked entirely.
Oh theres a damage thresh old, for rewards
I got my omnium star 1st try having all but my awakening blocked by moake the week it came out. I'd suggest going for it
anyone?
Those fairies usually have hidden virtue thresholds
At least the ones that open pathways do
The Omnium star can drop even without claiming 100% loot
are you trying to click the red fruit?.... you click the npc to buy the fruit
or am i not understanding
First you must buy
Yep, that's why I'd go for it :p
This is just a regular NPC...
hm? i buy it then use it to get the fine powder
It literally tells you in the text.
i did use it but it doesn't work
Our world is fucking doomed 
read instructions again kind sir
@fair bobcat Read the text again.
How hard it is to get the shangra island soul? only been there once. How much times should I expect to need to go there?
10+ at least.
how much time would I usually spend there u think?
Full duration.
not sure how much is that haha
30 or 35 minutes.
oof that sounds.. sooo fun haha
And you'd be doing peach farming in a party with 3 others.
hopefully people still do it
How much card xp did a legendary card give again (Lets say you maxed out wei and have dupes)
I believe it's just 5k.
I remember 6k or smth but not sure
Either way, not worth buying extras regardless.
Im stacking tons of dupes of cards I already maxed.
Having like a dozen armen/thirains etc is a good meme but kind of a waste of card exp and space...
What? 
Yeah
Tons of dupes of cards I already maxed. 
does card xp become an issue later on?
I started keeping them in my roster storage at some point to keep count
If you're going for %damage to demons, yes.
It can be yea.
The last awakening xp required for a legendary card is 97k I believe.
I mean it doesnt sound too bad but I guess it depends how much it is in total for 5 awakening on legendary
Easily 200k+
ah
@merry reef I remembered incorrectly, just Lv. 4 alone is 234k, with Lv. 4 being 97k. Lv. 5 must be something like 145k xp alone for a total of 379k.
yea that def seems like an issue now haha
is doing vykas normal okay?
Unless you plan to do Vykas HM the same week, sure.
If you're 1460, then you should be doing hard mode as well.
im still 1437 i think reaching 1460 this week is impossible
Then go ahead and do normal š

all my characters except my paladin got the pheons, anyone else got the same thing happen?
Guys does sending mail with accessories/set piece cost pheons?
Yes.
Okay thank you.
The receiving character needs to pay pheons to accept.
looks like they made a mistake and now removed all exra mails for everyone 
dont have to worry anymore
I did that immediately, just in case...
ye same 
i didnt get my pheons on my alt, is that a bug?
Probably the extra mails were the bug kek
i'll go to sleep and i wanna wake up with people at the forums rioting about amazon removing pheons on alts
Uh oh, here comes the questions 
if its not on fire, i'll go to sleep again
oh really, my server is still up so i guess i'll hop on those alts
oh they're gonna remove the unused items
AND used pheons.
Hold on, loophole! USE THE PHEONS BEFORE maintenance!
Good time to get another 7/7 stone for a 5x3 build 
Csn you binge secret maps in 1 day, or is there a limit?
they... could
you don't want to do secret maps solo so the max amount of maps you can do depends on how many people are around for it
negative pheons inc
as juicy as the pheons are, i wont risk it, i'll just see myself out and see tomorrow the firestorm
unless they're the solo maps
Of course not, I'm buying stuff right now 
Sort of a bummer because I had like 300 pheons prior
So if I did want to spend it all I'd likely have to burn through those too T_T
240
60 here.
first time?
I just want to see what happens if people go negative lmao
LMFAO
I already spent all of mine they go negative ima be pissed
Spend before gone, makes sense though right? 
they'll make you go negative but mess it up and underflow you into infinite pheons and then do a second maintenance to fix that
Also, what would happen if you simply bid on items but then they remove the pheons, then you get them back? 
guys what happens if you spent pheons before maint
Whatās the new maintenance about?
No idea, but I just did.
??? The pheons will be gone after maintenance?
nobody knows exactly how they're gonna deal with this so move at your own risk
#official-updates for maintenance notice
Well, they can't do much when they didn't say that spending the pheons would result in a punishment. No in-game announcement at all other than "Maintenance in 30 minutes".
er, so this turned interesting
Very.
should i actually spend my pheons? lol. i wasn't planning to
I did.
but i'm poor :<
Got a 7/7 and 5/3 accessory from it.
is solas card obtainable on a character that used a power pass to skip content?
no
oh the message does actually say they will be deducted. interesting
Skill runes.. where do you get them?
are we getting our pheons negaative'd?
wonder if they will go through my card collection and delete my cards...:)
I donāt they will make the pheons negative right?
They specified only used pheons.
how long is the maintenance?
did anyone say they were going to sue?...
did anyone ever get an issue where Lost Ark just straight up doesn't launch via Steam ?
I get the EAC window and all but the game just doesn't start after that
Maintenance is in 5 minutes, might have something to do with it?
yeah I'm thinking that might be what's causing the issue
maybe it's maintenance.. that why you can't play atm?
2h maintance?
Yeah
so if i only collected them on main they still gonna take it back?
i don't think anyone knows. but negative pheon is not impossible, i don't think
oh boiii! I just got home so I did not read the noticed and did not spend my pheons... ughhhh
someone else also got kicked?
I mean I normally have 233 pheons but I have 293 now since they make their āmistakeā so Iāll go back to 233?
Maint
oh
yes, most likely
for how long?
Possibly, we don't know, I just spent the 100 pheons I received 
Okay thanks
2hrs
Iām saving up pheons I canāt spend themš„“š
i would be prepared for a second followup maintenance
guess i will take a nap š
2hours to fix the mistake they madeš„“
would be funny if they gave out maintenance compensation...in peons
which they wont of course. we'll get 10 phoenix feathers
its an hour and a half mb
Are the servers under maintenance?
1 question tho... why would the players suffer for the DEVS mistake.. like I don't get it?
Maintenance itās a mini heart attack
this is my only time playing lol
i mean it's a dumb mistake but nobody's gonna suffer anything more than having to wait a bit for the maintenance (unless they really mess it up while fixing it)
Imagine they remove all the pheons it would be chaotic
they are obviously not going to do that...on purpose
They will be removing all the pheons used.
maybe i should have just left the peons unused in inventory...
how can they remove used pheons? like pheons in the currency bar?
easily
good thing we got a maintenance to fix the disconnects --- oh wait
10x Free pheons per character 
Constant disconnects for a week soon 
lol it is amazing how quickly they moved to resolve this one
Then we will have a whole day maintenance in reaper release. Theyāre giving us a chance not to burn out

I bought more tripods because we got bonus pheons good to know now I'll have even less once servers come back up
possibly into the negatives
maybe you can check it on the shop?
I know right 
oh you did not open ingame shop since you played the game?
its 2500g for 95 crystals so what ever 2500g is in usd ig 
100 pheons is 850 BC
in terms of USD, i don't really want to do the conversion math
it actually isnt
at least, SA doesn't have regional pricing
well, for me the biggest RC pack costs 150CAD after all the taxes/fees/bullshit lol
people could abuse it, so its a no (sad for SA)
bc yes, the others, no
so
So they're up in the ass for ā¬15 worth of pheons if you have 6 characters? 
if SA had regional pricing, we could all just make SA characters and buy RC from there? LOL
is the server offline?
yes the servers are down for emergency maintenance to roll back the pheons/card packs/battle boxes they accidentally gave out
so not even any announcements?
Yeaaah maybe more
they will lose thousands of dollars because of that. Maybe hundred if this game has that much player
WHAT ABOUT THE FREE STUFF OTHER PEOPLE GOT I WANT IT TOO
Which is still small amount for a company like Amazon
It's getting rolled back how does it matter
How long is maint expected to be?
2 hrs
It matters if pheons don't go into the negative 
WHAT IF THEY CLAIMED OR SPENT PHEONS
2 more hrs or until when?
100 more mins currently
they are in the negative now
GOOD THEY SHOULD BURN
Allegedly.
they keep whatever they bought, however
then they most likely paid for like 18 char slots. So not even unfair...
yes, allegedly
We don't know what's gonna happen to them, negative, stuff taken back, or nothing, you also need your caps lock fixed
how do you guys know about the maintenance, I don't even see it on twitter?
how long till server up?
Honestly I donāt think they are worried about this. Cause remember they giving us 1445 hyper express š„“
What? Then why do they give out free stuff at all? Why give powerpasses. Or express events. Or any events.
That has no relation to this 
They didnāt release yoz jar either, which would have been the biggest cash cow
You need help on this?
wow sadgee about the rollback
It kinda has. In my pov
Yes, I didn't get my pheons. Ty.
these seem really small rewards compared others, they could've just leave it at that
You'll get them after maintainance
I think the problem here is that AGS could have gained some goodwill by saying that it was a mistake but letting it be. Feel like 10 peons isnāt a big deal for either AGS or player. But yeah, this just leaves a sour taste for the players for very little gain for AGS
I DIDNT WRITE THAT
They better give us 50 pheons!

?!?!
What are you even saying lmao
I guess we will defer to you for AGS business decisions in the future
source?
Heās an insider can you not tell
Idk where the money argument is from that's not even related to this pheon situation

The irony is this PR fuck up will probably cost them more
Because you understand?
Can you talk in laymen terms. Not everyone is as smart as you.


Look heās the guy with an MBA. Who are we to argue
This guy is a debate lord
I don't think he realises that pheons are pixels and not commodities
you guys are fighting again wtf
Wdym, they are nfts
I'm talking about you 
Worth millions of dogecoin
exactly
True I forgot about my lessons from the Top G ty for reminding

This is lowkey hilarious 

I hope the game goes up so I can stop reading here
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I think you fundamentally do not understand the type of players in a micro transaction mmo
I don't even understand what you're trying to say but sure
I personally will never spend anymore real money on this game. That's a lost customer on someone that maxed out char slots (i.e. proven money spender)
I don't think you understand or can quantify how much this PR shit show is gonna hit them
Holy shit what did I miss
I'm so lost on this

Oh
welcome 
Itās all about the pheons

Then conversation goes to another dimension again
I'm too old for this debate. Fine you win.

Guys donāt fight. Blame the one who gave us pheons

We're angry because we got pheons?

Theyāre taking it back
They sent 10x Pheons through mail to each owned character, now reverting all mail and unused/claimed pheons.
honestly, i've been looking for something to tip me over the edge and uninstall
might be the one
Bye
lol
why lie
Aināt no way 10 pheons is the tipping point
I uninstalled the game once and I install it again after an houršš„“
we both know youre gonna do brel
Per character.
Oh no!
Like, you didn't lose anything
You're mad because they took away something they gave you for an hour
What is this nonsense
Don't drag me into your shenanigans.
it's not like this is the first thing people have been mad about 
Can I have your pheons
I might quit from this depending on what they do my pheons
they're all gone
I think Iāll flip a coin if they took all my pheons LOL
Yeaaah. I have 233 pheons I hope they donāt get it also

Theyāre gonna take however many you claimed from the mail 
LOL mucho alt gang
Why the fuck would they take all your pheons. Are you all high
Real and true
Theyāre actually resetting everyone to 0 pheons

No shit
I mean if youāre at 0 and they take it away itās all your pheons
Waiting to see what they do with me, I spent all the pheons and I'm at 0 
LOL I couldnāt spend it fast enough but tbh I donāt want to play Lost Ark if itās run like this
Please end it. Iām so sorry I started this
So donāt
Okay I wonāt? Lol
End of the day itās just a game, it aināt that deep
love that clap back
Run like what?
I don't get why people making such a big deal
Literally nothing has changed, you got stuff, they took it back, back to where you were
Some people acting like 10 pheons is the end all be all, especially when it was intended to begin with
just math ig
Yeah but they got it temporarily 
I get shit in my dream temporarily, doesn't make me angry when I wake up
You got me mixed with someone else bud
Dreams should compensate us fr
catching strays
They're gonna take away my Nut card I got for free
This is insane
guys i'm confused about scouter or any art classes and shadow hunter for a beginner in the game
What are you confused about
anyone know like if you save 4 tripod from ice shell do i get 4 amulet or 1 amulet?
if it's capped or noob ,, neeed so much materials things like that
get some help
Itās considered a cheap alt because it uses two gems on demonic impulse
I also have 2,000 hours on R6 and I quit that and 2,500 on lost Ark I wonāt quit?
this probably isn't the best time to ask in this channel - maybe try the class channels?
But sure you can assume whatever you want itās the internet lmao
oh sry ok ty ā¤ļø
nothing to apologize for! there's just a discussion going on rn that's kind of turning into a dumpster fire, so there's not much helping going on lol
Guys just donāt argue with him he always ended up winning
Wrong person again bud that was me
it just my first time playing the game , so i don't know all classes and when i see some videos on internet on some classes all classes seems awesome ,, and in other videos they just say it's sucks and it's capped or it have a limit in it's power that's what i meant so i don't wana spend time on classes like that
Yeah all classes are different and have different endgame damage but all classes are viable for all content
Not all classes are currently released compared to whatās in KR
it's tough because i found that sometimes i started a class but then decided later that i no longer liked it. you kinda just have to try it out and see
btw i'm a shadow hunter now it's so funny to play with but saw some videos that keep saying it's sucks and capped u can't go more than 1460 i think and it will be gate keeping on some high dung
All classes are good - genuinely. Their gameplay is a bit different ranged/melee, burst/consistent damage
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Iāve spent $2k on the game and I would quit immediately if I donāt find it fun lol money doesnāt attach you to keep playing
No classes suck
Every class is capable of doing all content
Some do out perform slightly, but not enough to make things unplayable
Best advice is just to play what you enjoy
It does scale less and falls off compared to other classes but it's most definitely viable, as long as you like the class it's great
as long as you have the ilvls, i don't think it should be a problem
this
yeah saw that too , reaper i think and some items i saw on some people videos on twitch and dungs too didn't release yet
Well some classes fall off harder than others
the important thing is to play something that you enjoy
Play style does matter and thereās no point META chasing if it isnāt fun
Always play what you enjoy and stick to it, itās better for your overall enjoyment
i'm 1302+ shadow hunter
Dw boiz we don't have pheons but we'll get compensation for maintenance via vitamameow mix
LOL 
This is still my favorite post title regarding it all:
AGS today: āHereās a free gift Card, buy whatever you want. Sry Bro, it wasnāt actually a gift, you now owe me 50 dollars lulā
Oh just shut up please
oh boy
yup got it but saw a gigachad who said make 1 main and others 5 i think bard or paladin more mats. to ur main and u will go up easily but i really wana try other classes and see all the content from other classes POV " that really help to know the game more "
Yeah yeah you know me so weāll DaddyM my real name is Chewbacca irl too but you probably already knew that
I think you ought to experience as much of the game through classes as you can and see what fits your play style
Itās always nice having a support alt though
i have 3 paladins 
A true brother. I have 10 LOL
Everyone should play atleast one support imo, just to see how the playstyle changes
Other than that, play whatever you find fun
The best thing about playing multiple different characters is understanding how they work so you can understand synergies and stuff
"what gatekeeping?" 
Applying for a raid and getting in immediately 
I deliberately apply in my chaos dungeon stuff, and see how long it takes before someone says anything
true that's my point and like LOL when u play other champs u can see everyone capable of so u can understand more but here u need to spend much time to do things like that
What's the maintenance for?
Yeah I agree but youāll eventually learn especially if you play with people who main it youāll ask them how it works and theyāll tell youā I had to explain to my static what godsent did on my paladin
ty for the link ā¤ļø
To take back their gifts they gave us
they sent out the mails to every char clearly wasnt intended
they are only removing it for anyone who claimed more than 1
Clearly wasnāt intended now indeed
nah it was obvious from the start that its too good
I didnāt make assumptions especially when it was taken down 7 hours later
Yea I thought it was an obvious mistake too but I did not think they are gonna remove it at all lol
They aren't that generous ever
Negative pheons confirmed?
Weāll find out when servers go online
Fuck that if I donāt get 100+ pheons Iām jailging people every group I join
HUH
Negative pheons or death
If I canāt benefit the same way others have I will spread doom
Ayo
How do I refund my soul fist
They cant just reverse the mistake they made
is NA west closed rn
Mistake is a mistake and learn from it
They already stated they will so 
Thatās okay we can make more to make up for it
You weren't crying when the ppl with 20 characters were accepting pheons tho
I was
Yes, they gave away pheons to some people and it was apparently unintended so they took the server down for two hours
Oh so you're one of those 
any idea when it will come back up?
I'll leave you to it 
If you have more than 12 chars you should be banned NA only
In approximately 44 minutes.
haha maintenance extended
Can we playge?
LOL
guess im full resting today 
maintenance extended? what a shock
are servers back iup?
Anyone playing gunslinger main here? Is it hard to play, costly build? Wanna try them after the is server open.
You do 3x effort to make 1x damage
I have a very high level gs. it's fun, but it is tough to play
you are quite squishy and the normal build requires you to rotate around all three of your weapons, with your main damage skills on shotgun and rifle
Extended maintenance to 8am PT
Expensive? Yes, one of the most expensive - but boils down to getting PM5/3 relic, but you can do swift/crit/spec pretty comfortable for PM or TTH, don't play TTH swift if you decide to go for easier time
It's real fun tho
i don't think it's that expensive, because you don't run spec accessories mainly
Once you have enough hours the gameplay itself becomes pretty much muscle memory
crit accessories are actually probably the cheapest
PM5 accessories are expensive no matter what 2ndary stat
also all of your stones and books will be expensive
alternatively, you can consider running the TTH build (which i swapped to), which is sort of cheaper, and easier to play, and is probably on par with PM (less overall dmage, but better burst)
on one acc, but the rest is cheaper. i think better than 5 spec accessories on stuff like blade easily
TTH spec is just kinda boring, you do sniper stuff every 30s and afk in pistols afterwards
it's personal preference. in burst heavy raids, it's not like you have much time to dps anyway.
at least with TTH you just unload everything and you've done your job
anyway, for more detailed advice, you can ask on #gunslinger but yeah, it's not the easiest class to raid with but i think fun if you can handle the rotations
you have the time for shotguns as often, i think problem is that cycling through 3 bars is kinda hassle for doing less than scrapper or sorc with brain dead rotation
since only sharpshooter has "long" animation lock, because you cycle between stances for dual buckshot
but yeah, you sort have to learn not to waste jump with gunslinger which is a downside
i think you mean you can cycle through stances for sharpshooter. you're locked in dual
didn't buckshot end prematurely if you didn't hold?
yes, it's holding, but the longest delay is in the second hit of the combo
but yeah, stuff becomes muscle memory more than actual memory
well, combo not hold
and it's real annoying when you have to wait multiple seconds for the actual damage to land from the ability and the abilities itself have semi long cd
Why is game down? I checked announcements and nothing
y not ask in the gs channel 
they decided to pull the plug on the game
they gave out free pheons to people then changed their mind
You're shitting me? 10 phenos ain't enough to cover more than 1 good tripod gear purchase per char.
10 per character
so u could get 10-240 depending on how many characters u had
Very expensive
To be even in board
U need high gems
Itās considered up there in highest difficulty characters @robust cargo
Even still, assuming 10 phenos per char. You'd only be able to buy one tripod gear from AH per char (7 phenos) and have 3 left over.
Why is AGS so anal about phenos anyway to do this bait n' switch on us? Can't even buy phenos directly with RL cash.
I mean you literally can.
^
You can o.o with blue crystals then pheons
i mean 10 pheons is still 10 pheons itās like 3k-5k gold x whatever amount of characters you have
they shouldāve just left it and said they fucked up or said nothing at all but 
60 Pheons was ~$15 worth, if you have 6 Characters. Insane that they want this "hotfix" for it.
i have 7, yay!
We can buy crystalline aura directly without BC market shenanigans. Like 100 day aura for $30
i can buy 6 months for 20 dollars
isnt RC to BC conversion set?
idk, this seems to be a weird thing to complain about
I know, just using an example.
AGS would make more money if people could buy phenos directly instead of RC --> BC --> Phenos
when is the maintenance over
in 2 hours
i dont understand this, but ok
Fuck
1 hour 
nvm 1
Mhmm, I'm sure you know how their business model works better than they do
oops sorry i didnt want to curse
Allegedly 1 hour.
they're just taking into account the upcoming double extension
probably gonna be extended again
what is the expected size of the update?
0
size?
-10pheons
0
kewl
There's no update it's just a fix
5gb they will give reaper by accident, then rollback all the reapers made
this is a maintenance to fuck over players cuz of a mistake they done
would actually be dope like hey the servers were alr down so here you go no reset on wed 
Yup, taking something back is definitely fucking over players

it is when its a 5h maint to take back some items
Nah, that's totally reasonable over some pheons they accidentally sent out.
OK guys I'm not going for gunslinger then. Seems like it's not worth it š
Honestly, how tf do they accidentally send out phenos
Play whatever you like, that's whats worth it
if they're so anal and cheapo about phenos, wouldn't they be super careful not to mail them
Well it's not like im gonna throw my wallet out just to try hard for a chance to "try" a class lol.
u dont need to try hard with tth
probably something as dumb as they hit "send to character" instead of roster and rolling it back with some ppl having spent them proved more difficult than they expected
You don't need to, it's minimal investment for most classes to try them out, and what appeals to you can just be seen through videos and gameplay
swift tth isnt even expensive
Curious, but are the rewards for Deska and Kung the same? Or very similar?
they're just different builds and playstyles
I agree
You get more leaps, stones and accesories
they deal about the same damage and the ceiling is easier to hit
u get 2-3 more leaps from kung and relics are guaranteed
kakul g3 sometimes feel very smoge on tth when i have to waste rifle on balls/tower
50% more leaps from Kunga, higher chance of relic accessories, slightly more stones
kung is 100% relic acc
Oh I didnāt notice LOL
If your character can do Kunga I would simply for the increased stones but Deska is cool if youāre lazy some days
well deska is no battle items, and way faster. that's why people do it tbh
kung is nice if you can skip third phase
but i've yet to find that consistent at all.
Iād say the average Kung is still 5-6 minutes
5-6? on ilvl maybe...
For me it's usually 3-4 on average

Yup I said it and I only matchmake Kung so 
if i get a 4 min run im mad af
Matchmake 
oof
dont remember last time it took me more than 4 min
I only do guardians on rest but itās pretty noticeable when you get 20-22 on Deska and 30-32 in Kung or so
does that mean you always get 2nd blizzard? that's rough af
Ummm not all the time
getting second blizzard makes me want to song of escape
Hello, does anyone know if for the hyperexpress pass the character I want to use it on can already be at 1445 and not above? or it has to be something <1445?
I've never seen that be skipped 
has to be under 1445
I mean you wouldnāt really get the rewards so š®
:(, ok, tyvm
your entire roster is 1445+?
Yeah
So is mine, 
all 6?
you get a powerpass too 
buy another slot i guess š
1520 main, rest are either 1450ish or 1445 so I really only wanted to use it on a 1445 so I can up that one
heh, 1520 main, okay, i guess that's where your mats went
yeah, idk i don't have a lot of sympathy tbh š just make a new alt
Same as an alt-Holic
Just think of it as a catch-up mechanic, my 1460+ roster won't be able to use any of it, but I'm already ahead of the average player.
yeah exactly, im not against games giving more free stuff to new players
imo new kids need more than this
but its a good start
they need the 10 peons
and its actually nice help to boost a new class too
They don't need the express itself, they need accessories to be able to do content without being gatekept 
wym gatekept, think of the mm valtan hm next week
New players got it bad. Likely received no guidance, have no accessories, and low roster, also playing reaper 
rainbow moon reapers
Ain't nobody getting into Valtan without at least 3x3 for NM and 4x3 for HM.
can't stop them in matchmaking
My 1x3 paladin would beg to differ @flat dagger
Supports is a different story.
Sunday evening, servers just opened, rainbow reapers everywhere
tbh i do agree with this. no reason why sg can't include like a 4x3 leggo meta engraving set with express pass

I think they need to give them Lego engraving books to incentivize them to finish it
pretty sure i've seen other games give out "meta" gear to get people started
At least half of class and half of a general
eh? they dont. theyve given out purple books before and that, with a 6/6 stone can make 4x3. that's at least a good starting point for any new players
didnt know valtan mm is a thing ppl do
sure give them 100k+ worth of books
Maybe so but have fun buying grudge at 18k a pop new player
economy is always shit for new players, but they can at least enjoy some of the game
I think my static is actually bleeding players from burnout and market prices
and like, that's true for any MMO
right now, it's extra shit beceause new players can't even get green/blues easily
Mmm.. not all MMOās hav extreme time gate keeping
inflation is a hell of a phenomenon
A 5x3 is pretty rough for new players not opening their wallet and itās even worse trying to find a party with low roster for newest raid
"you are not welcomed in our argos p1 party if u dont have 5x3 engravings" 
Then you look at their cards and they donāt even have lostwind cliff crit
i mean i only accept los18+
Additionally a lot of them donāt have statics or friends to play with from what Iāve deducted
I accept anyone and everyone
in clown
I cleared with a 3x3 arty this week 
anyway, its not like i disagree. all i said was that i think giving 4x3 acc would be nice for a new player as part of the express
I think new players have to fight too large of an uphill battle is all Iām saying
so you think theyre fucked anyway so just ignore them completely?
And I say that with a 231 roster level
I never said ignore them I was the one saying help them with books remember? I said I didnāt gatekeepremember?
I donāt know how you deduced that LOL
Mmmm Iāve never had that glitch in particular so I canāt say
legendary books aren't important for new players
green/blue/purple are way more important
^
Prob give āem 20 of each then
dont hey always do that with express ?
I think so yes
yea, i just dont think 20 is enough tbh
with the hyper they do i think. they didn't with the story express we got just now?
(or maybe i missed it, but i didnt see any)
Hey, random question. I am coming up on roster level 100 but my highest combat level character is only 53. What roster level were people when they started hitting combat level 60?
scooter express was poop
I think itās because it was caked in with the events giving books
theres probably a load of books with the mokoko event, but the fact they lose than when they hit 1370, and that its so simple/fast to hit 1370 now, means they probably just ignore it and lose out
Mmmmm, that question is hard to answer since depending on what you do youāll level faster plus itās easier to level now with legion raids
I want to say me personally I didnāt hit 60 until roster 170ās but thatās why it doesnāt make sense to compare
i reckon 150ish probably
Most players can adequately hit 60 sub-100 these days
what's the cheese method for doing g3/4 after g1/2?
i have 7 lvl 60 chars and i just hit 170 this week
im 102 and almost lvl 60 on main
having 4 pcs of armor already at +21 right?
upgrading a gear to brel
Leaving an equipment at 19 and pushing the others to 21 for ilevel 1500 then transfer the 19 and hone it
and honing that one
You just need one weapon and two armours at 21 and gloves at 19
you don't need to hone everything else to 21
I forget the exact math for it I believe some could be 20, was it two pieces?
its in the infographic
I sort of stopped honing my old main since Iām in the process of swapping so
Iāll get there when I get there
im already at +20 across the board 
ok, that's still fine, just upgrade one of them to brel, and hone that
you might just need another hone
the "cheese" is just honing the brel gear instead of your 1340 base gear, because after +20, brel gear is cheaper to hone
maybe hone another regular armour piece to 21 so you're not tapping brel so hard
servers down?
yes
š¦ thanks
how long for EU?
nobody knows
bruh
Supposedly 30 mins but he's right no one knows
till 19.00 cet now
they remove all pheons but got to give big boy compensation regardless
i was right it was getting extended 
I couldāve called that 
they better not remove the pheons now after a 6 hour long maintenance
ik anyone couldāve called that
Iām going to login and find out they took my silver too
is this game owned by jews, so i can report it to kanye west
can anyone connect to NA west ?
servers are still down
2 more hours
*for now
so we will not have maint tomorrow or still have the regular one?
Still have maintenance very likely
its on wed and we still gonna have it
ok thank you
Guys, how do I get my spec stat up
Accessories and pet bonus thing
higher quality accessories?
Iām a 1445 striker and just bought accessories to switch from eso to deathblow, but my spec hasnāt reached 1500 which is the minimum
Are you accessories low quality?
I did the pet thing already and quality of accessories are 50+
What about your necklace?
Are they all relic accessories?
442 spec and 500 crit
Thatās definitely relic
Nope 2 relic and 3 legendary
Thatās your problem
Didnāt want to waste a large amount of phenols since Iām gonna be buying relic accessories for 5x3 later on
Relic is higher in stat it gives but generally if you skip out on anything itās the ring since those five the least
Give* the least
Are you gonna be whaling a lot?
Wdym by whaling ?
Umm spending money lol
Donāt need to whale to 5x3
Always get very high quality on necklace, very low quality on ring is still passable
You need to as a new 1445 playing deathblow
Oh yeah. Death blow⦠rest in pepperoni
Indeed
Oh DB Striker sucks
Ok what do you suggest I do rn, stay with the 1430 spec deathblow, orā¦. ?
Good luck, I have 5x3 DB Striker and it hurts with 1560 spec
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Probably stick with 4x3 honestly ā¦
I mean you already bought it right
Unless you're whaling I wouldn't recommend going deathblow at all in the first place
play what u want
Death blow has got it bad
Definitely, especially for new players
Yea 60 pheons left š„²
Do you have any wealth runes?
If you really want to play DB though, just put in 500k+ gold into it, which I did even if it's an alt
Rip wallet
Just missing 1 epic
Cause any lower is just bad really
Well the 1 epic is huge, especially if you're below 1640 spec
^
For now you can just stay but when you decide to go for a 5x3 I recommend going eso
DB is more of a challenge which I find is more fun than eso, but Iām also impatient so I wanted to switch asap. Resulting in a 1430 spec DB strikerā¦.
I am still stuck with 2 spender because I don't have Epic Wealth and it is actually very huge like what @fair mantle mentioned
Eso is actually harder than db to get the same output as an equally geared db
^
ESO is still viable just in case you think it's shit, it's not shit, it's just harder to play, DB is easier as time goes on
You need very high uptime for eso while in db you can burst in specific windows
Rotation of eso is easier to pull off, just fill meter and spam eso skills
Also when I host room, I don't bring in DB Striker unless they have 200+ roster w/ 1600+ spec
That's just me though
That's not how it works but sure, that's how db works ironically
I feel like this is not helpful to the guys situation tbh
Not at all xD
It's not meant to be helpful, he have to face the reality
This is a help channel?ā¦ā¦
Which has higher dps tho, if theyāre both equally geared
He can try to play a subpar 4x3 DB or just stick to Eso which is great fun as well
Anyways, keep the setup for now, it'll be rough but you have to work with it, then later transition to eso when you have more pheons
I already feeling the brunt of my subpar 1560 spec DB 5x3
Currently db won't have higher dps for you since it's low spec and you're missing a wealth rune
how to search for dye presets on inven?
You really need to invest a lot of gold into DB
Would stay with DB or switch to eso if you could start over ?
If I was a new player, most definitely eso, wouldn't even touch db by miles
ESOās a pain. Iād stick with 4x3 DB
Keep in mind striker is my main, so Iām willing to invest the most gold in striker
what does it mean region closed, are servers down?
I would stay with DB but buy higher quality accessories, most of mine are green except necklace which is blue, hence why it's 1550~ and not 1600~ (w/ pet btw)
what
Yea still 2 more hours
Well sorry to break it to you but you don't generate enough gold to meet the investment requirements, as I said, unless you whale
do we know what time is the maintenance on wednesday ? when do they usually take the server down ?
I wouldn't play or bring a DB that's a 4x3 but you do you
Iāve been largely unimpressed by most ESO players damage performance and ESO from personal use is more difficult to play with a constant moving raid like Vykas G2 for example
Usually 3 hours before reset
I never heard of whaling before so Iām guessing I donāt generate enough gold xD
so early morning for EU ?
Thats your personal opinion, we already said esos harder anyways
ESO and DB isn't hard to play its just that many of the players tend to be ADHD
My 5pc relic zerker alt with level 5 gems beat a 1490 fully fleshed ESO and I considered him a good player
Well yeah, you need upwards of a 600-700k gold investment
Zerker was on ilevel with 4x3+2
Iām just not convinced ESO is all that great
It's not about damage, he's a new player, doesn't help, he's not even getting entire rotation orbs at 1400 spec
He's not wrong by the way
This is not about your opinion of esos dps
Hence why my 500k~ DB Striker sucks
With that spec I get about 3.5 orbs with 2 skills
even though he can get Cruel Fighter etc, I still find the damage lackluster
Play whatever spec you have more fun with
Really need more investment for that build, spec stats especially
I personally am unimpressed with ESO play style and damage
And those 2 skills are your only generators, mfk and lw, lw which you HAVE TO pop before spenders
But thatās my opinion fa sho
So you're only getting in one skill per rotation
Fuck it, Iām switching my main to reaper, I canāt do this shit no more
We didn't tell you to choose something even worse but sure š
Now whoās opinion is getting in the way LOL
It's not opinion it's solely about investment
I say go for it mannnn reaper all the way

Maintenance done?
You think a reaper is gonna cost less than a db rn? Good luck
Lots of gold to be made on hype, thatās an investment
Just a heads up, Spec classes tend to be expensive af
2 more hours
He's a new player buddy, not sure you realise that
Yea Iām 73 roster
I donāt underestimate you @zinc garden you do you boo
is there a reason to buy tripods for all ur characters? i feel like getting fomo'd but i only have 3 1445+ characters out of 6 including my main that have max tripods saved. fuck pheons
You do you @zinc garden just know that pheons is best used to build 5x3 at the very least unless you do not mind getting gatekept from time to time
Itās expensive buy it on the ones you play and care about the most it is FOMO
You get upwards of 50% damage which you will never be able to get for guaranteed in the future (200% on tripod dependent classes)
It's like buying a level 10 gem for 3k gold
Tripods are a huge damage boost and you can get max tripods for effectively free right now with no RNG involved
Iāll start saving gold to buy at least 125 pheons then save more gold to buy stone, then save more gold to buy books then save more gold to buy more pheons, then save more gold to finally buy the accessories š
yeah i thought it would better to do now so i dont have to worry about them amulets unless i wanna change builds
regardless if i care abt the character or not
I do not know which DPS is the most efficient 4x3
Yes yes farm those chaos dungeons ššš
Shadowhunter
since I am a support main, I spend all my gold for my DPS to get 5x3
Just like me fr
You want to buy it on the character you care about the most but all characters is excessive
I would buy it on all gold earning chars the rest depends on what you enjoy
slightly misleading
correct me if im wrong, but i dont know of any tripods that give you a 50% damage increase from lvl4 to lvl 5
level 1 - level 5, sure, but you don't need buy tripods now to guarantee decent damage increase from lvl4 tripods
level 5's are nice, and yes its the best time to invest in them, but lvl 4 tripods are still very good, and lvl 5s are basically just min-maxing
1-5
If gold is all you're after @zinc garden, make 3 support (Bard/Paladin/Artist) and just make them 3x3 or 4x3 w/ legendary accs /w proper stats, then pump all the gold to your DPS characters (Striker, Reaper, etc), these supports will eventually be gatekept by higher roster parties that will look at your cards but you can still easily get gold this way. 4500 valtan, 4500 vykas, 4500 clown, per character. That is 13500 x 3 characters = 40500 per week (Clown ready) for 3 supports or 11700 x 3 = 35100 gold per week if you keep them at 1460 only.
Thatās basically my argument. Weāre talking 126 pheons was it? Assuming 18 tripods per character
Thatās 756 pheons alone not factoring in if you need blue crystals for pages
most characters definetely do not need all 18 tripods
You just need the main damage ones, 18 includes a lot of cd and atk speed etc as well
I didn't see it in announcements but are the euc servers down?
I spend money on this game and I only bought it on one character. I deemed level 4ās adequate

servers still down?
Yes still down
my main has all 18, cos she the best gal
other dps have like 10-12
supports have 2, cos fuck-em
till 19.00 cet
4-5 is still at least 10% on most characters, around 25-30% on tripod dependent ones, that's a worth a lot for me as literally no source will ever gimme that much for this cheap
Hey šš¼āāļø anyone knows good display settings best performance and having still descent graphic quality? Or only chance is all low for best performance? (Nvdia rtx 3060 - intel i7 10870)
No. Depends on your rig and the game is poorly optimized.
Are you playing 1080p? Shouldnāt need all low.
are servers up? the lost ark server thign doesnt show anything so im asking here
they are not
ty
Tbh Iām up for investing the time and gold into the class. I always love playing and mastering classes that are seen hard or rare
I DM'ed you, check it out
Also Strikers aren't rare
Deadeye on the other hand...
If I'm being honest strikers are neither
Take that back š¢
It's the truth š
2560x1440(16:9)
1440p performance is comparable to 1080p I think you could get away with medium
borderless - windowed - full secreen effects someth.?
All. You can do whatever
all regions down because of 10 pheons, very nice
3060 isnāt amazing for 1440p iirc?
it is okey to server down to fix mistake that done but it is not okey server down 6 HOUR š
when is the servers coming back i hate this
my wife is out shopping and being busy, i need to do some gaming while shes away
but lost ark cucked me
Thank god while lost ark is down i can go to my therapist and get my meds
i play on 1440p on my gtx 2060 with some what high settings in borderless not sure if forcing it to 21:9 improves the performance

many had a free today and this happens, sad day
Mmm maybe something else then if your 2060 runs it fine.
6600 XT capped out settings
1080p
Yeah 1080p looks good for performance but i have 32ā - 2560-1440 monitor. 1080p can be look bad š¦
do auction house bids still complete during maintenance?
yes
I come back and check the maintenance progress, another 2 hours eh? 
have u tried removing all the system notification clutter in your chat settings?
our version of la gets cucked by eac, it impacts our version of la significantly itās not this bad in the other versions
Yo I heard Iām getting free pheons in the mail?!
you wish
Why not?!
Someone said itās in my mailbox
the people who got free pheons have them deducted from their account, you will become negative pheons if you dont have surplus
it was
was a mistake they are removing it from everyone
Wtf??? Why they did recall?
and everyone who claimed it is also getting it removed
Wtf why?ā¦ā¦
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Cause AGS
they are currently in the process of removing it thats why we have a 6 hour long maintenance that can possibly take longer
it was meant once per account not character
I mean if you werenāt around you are literally where you were when you last played
no it wasnāt meant to be given at all
I just checkedā¦I see no free pheonsā¦.
that tweet got removed
Wtfā¦.
This message has since been deleted. I do not believe pheons were intended
You just checked in a game with no working server?
Wtf thatās b.s
Server is down????
It has been down..
6 hours now
I thought you ājust checkedā
When can I log in????? I always play lost ark at this time
Literally no one knows.
Wtf am I suppose to do now????
in 15 minutes according to them
literally anything else
Touch grass.
touch grass
Really?
Grab your ears and dance in circle š
It's 7PM CET, which is in 1h14 minutes.
no lol they will extend maintenance again
o 
yes their expected finish time is in 1 hour 15 minutes
that's when the real maintenance starts

Dam dude wtf??? So after the maintenance I get my free pheons?
extented maintenance until the reaper patch ( :
Wow just maybe chill. There are no free pheons
But come on guys, it was worth the impromptu maintenance that was extended two times, just for reverting some pheons 
don't read anything only panic
We got free pheons in the mail, then they backtracked on it.
tldr there are no pheons. People who accepted them are having them removed
Any reason why? How much were they planning on giving? What if you already claimed?
Can they really deduct from account??
you are a bot right
they can do quite literally anything they want to
negative pheons inc 
ofcourse they can
they can do it like they did previously with EUW rewards, the auras / blue crystal was deducted from player accounts
when was that?
you had negative days for your aura and blue crystal
so you're saying there's precedent
when EUW was released they had their own login rewards
no its in 1 hr 10 mins
Maybe theyāre working out how to remove pheons from the hyper express ā¦
but the reward was server specific, so you would get months of free aura and thousands of crystal
They are so greedy it was like 20 pheons
10x for each character yes.
someone already corrected me
ah alright
Any reason in particular why they thought deducting and recalling it back was a good idea?
Greed.
Greed
Because el cheapo
Just chill out. Plenty of Reddit threads to vent on if you need. Ultimately the status quo hasnāt actually changed so I donāt know why youāre so angry
they probably figured it would do some weird shit to the economy
Meh I donāt think theyāve thought that far ahead
economy, hehe
it was 10 pheons per char so some got 200 pheons
WHAT???!!!
Oh donāt
they're always thinking about the economy, though that doesn't mean they're doing well at analyzing it
Thatās too generous
Why would you tell him that
Iām just saying I donāt think their reasoning for the reversal is as complex as the economy
dawg you gotta chill out 
i think they wanted to send 10 pheons per acc, not per char XD

amazon fucking up like always
Fwiw, I think the situation is likely more complex and it might be eg AGS sending it without sg approval for the giveaway
can be yea
If that were the case though didnāt gold River disapprove of their earlier decisions but they did it anyways
if you wanna 'discuss' it the forums and #lost-ark-discussions are wide open
Anyway it clearly doesnāt look great for AGS rn but if you havenāt even logged on since it happened it doesnāt affect you (apart from the maint)
great that i slept like a log
servers still down?
19.00 cet
Yes
What time in EASTERN TIME does the servers come back
i dont think we know yet, it was supposed to be 30 mins but has been longer
54+ minutes.
its in 54 min from now it never got to being 30 min close yet 
ANyone wanna copulate in the meantime
Are we gunna get hooked up fat by lost ark once servers are back up?
5 feathers
probably another consu chest and 5 pheons 
who knows
Only thing fat is the shaft with the pheon removal
I believe the forums did say they had something in mind but not hopeful
and bezos's wallet
There isnāt an equivalent?
esther weapon
But rare stuff right now is a 9/7 stone or 100q weapon
600k accessory
Once out, a 15% bracelet?

15%? theres a lot more to that than bracelets
they dont sound as cool as headhunter belt
they arent
I think 15+ is like optimal right? With all the best affixes
I donāt think itās much more than that
15+ of what lol
Oh, equiv to a 15% damage increase
15% damage increase bracelets are next to imposssible to drop or buy and facet for the most part
if you were to invest in it it would probably be upwards for 7-8 million gold
Right - which is why I said incredibly rare/impossible
Or at least, thatās what I implied
oh I thought you meant optimal
but yeah a literal perfect bracelet is probably one of the rarest things there are
Yeah, I donāt even think they exist in KR
give me 2 stat bracelet and ill be ok








