lost-ark-help

[rose jewel]

adventure islands and events/login rewards, cant really "farm" them

[crisp turtle]

you can farm them by doing co-op sailing.
but its not worth the time or effort

[rose jewel]

you get such a low amount, and they are limited events daily as well

as in only every X hours

[crisp turtle]

yup, not worth the time or effort

[thick ermine]

any tip for beginners that cannot do guardians run as no one is doing low T3 guardians anymore ? :/

[rose jewel]

either solo or party finder and ask for carries

[thick ermine]

That is a real problem for new comers

[crisp turtle]

if you want to do it legitimately, you're either solo or waiting a long time

starting a party looking for a carry can find someone to help fairly quick

[robust moat]

yuh i did the fucked thing forgetting i still need more giant hearts and used all my coins bundles 😭. I just came back from grinding tf out the game from the first month of release and forgot what they were for then went oh shit nooo

but it's ight ill be fine i probably still have od islands that give those chests that i haven't completed

[stark siren]

how much dmg am i losing if i dont have skins

[rose jewel]

long term game, marathon, farm and get everything slowly

[thick ermine]

yeah solo for bard is not really in my plan anytime soon I dont want to do a guardian every 30 minutes

[robust moat]

💀

[rose jewel]

that's not even half an astray

[robust moat]

my head ass did this

[rose jewel]

well maybe half

[coarse mist]

Has anybody done the math? How much chaos dungeons and legion raids do i have to do to purchase out the event shop every week without using the mystic tokens on boxes?

[robust moat]

i do have the Astray Operation Manual. still working on getting it

[rose jewel]

be the change you want to see, do the math and tell us yourself 😄

[coarse mist]

i cant im bad at math

[wanton needle]

You can afford the basic model astray. But not full equipped with sailors and upgrades

[rose jewel]

too bad, i am as well, guess we'll never know

[coarse mist]

[crisp turtle]

gimme 5mins

[rose jewel]

the hero we dont deserve

[coarse mist]

jonesy

[rose jewel]

besides im at work i have no idea what each takes and needs

[wanton needle]

I heard the loot is busted. As in ohera gives more than legion raid or something

[stark siren]

how much dmg am i losing if i have no skins

[wanton needle]

Very minimal difference

[rose jewel]

1% or maybe less

[stark siren]

ok

[rose jewel]

talk about fomo

[coarse mist]

huhh

wtf abyss duneons gives more ribs?

[rose jewel]

it gives like 50 yes

[stark siren]

cos my sorc is default skin looks like a bot

[coarse mist]

💀 why does legion raids give us 6 then

[stark siren]

not sure if skins worth

[rose jewel]

because good game design

[wanton needle]

Haven't done my abyss yet so didn't confirm but that is what I heard. Also argos is cheap for some reason

[stark siren]

so new players can farm the mats easier

[rose jewel]

argos is either bugged or it has like a 0.5% drop chance

[crisp turtle]

ignore the stuff you get from mystic
you need:
2 lvl3 gifts, 10 lvl2 gifts, and 25 lvl1 gifts to buy out the weekly shop.
in total:
12 ribs, 70 skewers, 215 fruits and rice cake

idk how many you get from doing stuff though, but thats the total you need each week

[coarse mist]

215 rice and fruits

[remote parrot]

what location is this?

[dreamy bluff]

probably to give new players higher chance to get those things while end game has all legion raids

[rose jewel]

newbie friendly

[crisp turtle]

port krona in vern

[wanton needle]

Newbie trap

[crisp turtle]

215 of each, yes

[remote parrot]

o ty

[crisp turtle]

ik you can't get it as 1475+ from argos, cos its greyed out on the loot, are people not getting it when they're under 1475?

[cobalt girder]

can someone come cut my stone please
230 pheons so far

[rose jewel]

mhm

[wanton needle]

Yep, I did it as 1460 didn't remember any event drops

[crisp turtle]

dont think it really matters tbh, doesn't take a lot to buy out the shop

[wanton needle]

Rip ppl who is 1415 but can't clear valtan normal

[crisp turtle]

its just the boar ribs that only come from legions right?
you only need 12 of them a week, or like none if you just do mystic

[ashen kindle]

Guys how many Pheon would it take to get accessories?

[wanton needle]

Mystic doesn't give u ribs tho

[crisp turtle]

no it gives you the parcels that you make out of ribs

[wanton needle]

Unless u mean buy from that exchange

[pseudo atlas]

at t3 it's 15 per legendary and 25 per relic acc

[ashen kindle]

Thank you

[pseudo atlas]

or at least that's what i remember, it will tell you when you try to buy anyway

[wanton needle]

Does mystic give u enough to buyout the shop?

Since it's 1 time weekly.

[crisp turtle]

you only need two of the lvl 3 parcels to buy out the weekly refresh shop

[robust moat]

what's the best place to mine?

[wanton needle]

I get that. But you can't use alt to farm extra tokens from mystic

[crisp turtle]

if you have paralysis immunity tools and just want exp: Lakebar
if you dont have paralysis and just want exp: Lullaby island or Meteora

if you have lvl 20 mining and want a chance of more materials: Nameless Valley or Ironhammer mine

if lvl 30: Starsand beach

[crisp turtle]

mystic gives what, 150 tokens?
2x lvl3 gifts costs 40 tokens

[robust moat]

appreciate it

[hot lynx]

hello, i just finished punika purple quest, was aiming to get punika pass but i didn't receive anything ? was wondering if it was an event of period of time or something perhaps ?

[rose jewel]

you are 2 days too late my friendo

[pseudo atlas]

yeah that powerpass was until the weekly maintenance yesterday

[rose jewel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/434657374117298188/1024847056029880370/unknown.png

[hot lynx]

thank you

[ashen kindle]

guys what gunner is good for alt? ::D;

[wanton needle]

Scouter maybe

[rose jewel]

all of them if you like the class

what does "good" mean for you

[ashen kindle]

Smooth good not to much cheap

[rose jewel]

smooth, either machinist or gunslinger

[wanton needle]

Not to much cheap? As in expensive?

[rose jewel]

even sharpshooter i guess, but that's more bursty i think

[ashen kindle]

Semi expensive

[crisp turtle]

not burst at all

[slender stump]

Gunslinger op

[ashen kindle]

I really want the game play of gun slinger lool

[rose jewel]

never played SS so i have no idea ngl, but gunner is pretty good

[ashen kindle]

maybe ill go gunslinger thank you guys

[rose jewel]

and you have a lot of options on how to gear her

[crisp turtle]

gunslinger feels so amazing to play
then you realise you're doing 8000 apm and doing literally zero damage

[rose jewel]

if you want smooooooooth, go swift TTH (wont come online till 1445, but its not as cluncky early)

the only issue with GS is that she needs to be invested on, so expect lower numbers until way later on

[ashen kindle]

really?

[crisp turtle]

sharpshooter would be my suggestion
super easy to play, incredibly consistant damage, very safe, high mobility
and you get to use a bow, which is just cool

[wanton needle]

Didn't he say he wanted gunslinger gameplay?

[ashen kindle]

they almost have the game gameplay

[remote parrot]

sharpshooter isnt highly safe

[rose jewel]

go GS

[crisp turtle]

you're ranged, with no long animation locks, its very safe

[maiden locust]

it isnt if your not using a stone

[remote parrot]

most of our burst ability are charge atks

[crisp turtle]

which can be cancelled by literally just left clicking

[rose jewel]

SS has a lot of anilocks dude, from what i've seen

0 damage ;D

anyway if he likes gun, let him go gun, play for fun

[crisp turtle]

i exaggerate because my gunslinger sucks

they just require a lot of investment in gems and tripods to really pop off, but they're still fun to play

[ashen kindle]

ill learn more about it first so i dont regret it later. ill go paladin for now so i have a support on my roster. Than kyou guys

[rose jewel]

eww paladin

[ashen kindle]

i dont want barrd

[rose jewel]

im just memeing, go ahead

[rose jewel]

i have one myself and a bard so

[remote parrot]

i might get a support slot

[maiden locust]

you should

[crisp turtle]

everyone should have atleast one imo

[rose jewel]

supports is always good to have, even if only 1

[crisp turtle]

i literally had no idea what a bard did til i made one

[slender stump]

6dps

[rose jewel]

i got 3, but the 2nd bard is gonna be yeeted for artist for the trinity

[crisp turtle]

samesies! except my 2nd bard isn't in my top 6, its my glavier thats getting yeeted

[rose jewel]

3 supports for gold making, ez legion entry

[ashen kindle]

Paladin costumes look sick soooo

[remote parrot]

i feel like you get less lash back when you fail being a support

[ashen kindle]

and my guild says theyd give free run if i use paladin

[rose jewel]

tell that to my pugs, "Heal please, dude heal me" (he was 70% hp), "Fukin buff me, dont heal" (died 6 seconds later), "Wow fukin sucky shields" (dude was in narnia)

[maiden locust]

every run is a free run as support

[ashen kindle]

Problem is i will start from vern idk if i can do damage on my quest lmfao

[maiden locust]

you just stand around and buf

[crisp turtle]

problem is that they're so damned boring to actually play

[stark siren]

play bard

[maiden locust]

i enjoy playing pali

[rose jewel]

bard is a bit more engaging, paladin is actual zzzz fest

[stark siren]

its the more exciting support so you wont fall asleep during legion raids

[ashen kindle]

Bard or Pala hmmm

[maiden locust]

both

[rose jewel]

any, both work

[ashen kindle]

Can they do damage at Quest? lol

[rose jewel]

pala is more relaxed, no need to aim shit (except the dmg cut aoe)

both can clear questing, bard has aoe, pala as well and bit more dmg overall

bard is actually insane on clearing waves of mobs

[crisp turtle]

have 2 bards, i agree that its more engaging than paladin
but still not exactly fun gameplay

the only enjoyable thing about playing supports is that you can ignore 90% of the shit that happens, and just spend that time watching your clowns teammates run around like headless chickens

[rose jewel]

you are playing like the teacher of a kindergarden, watching babies trip to tiny stones and crying for anything that happens around

[crisp turtle]

yeah, and that shits hilarious

[ashen kindle]

Ill KT bard first 😄

[crisp turtle]

until you want to organise them to do anything, then its just a miserable experience

[ashen kindle]

oops i misclick arcanist

[rose jewel]

imagine

[wanton needle]

Don't worry you got 8 more tries

[ashen kindle]

im kidding lmaao

may ill KT my bard until yorn quest is so boring

[wanton needle]

Only cost like 4k gold

[rose jewel]

just buy a punika pass and skip all

[ashen kindle]

i already read it all T.T

[rose jewel]

ezlife eztimes

[ashen kindle]

can support join raids even if they have semi trash sets?

[rose jewel]

yesnt

[crisp turtle]

saw a 1445 pally the other day with no relic set and 2x3 hosting a valtan hard asking for 1490+ dps.
filled up in like 5mins

[rose jewel]

5 minutes.. im surprised it filled

[crisp turtle]

5mins is probably exaggerating, more like 2

[rose jewel]

still surprised it filled

i wouldnt go in watching him be that cheapo

3x3 you're good, more than enough, less than that is just nope

[stark siren]

when you dont have to focus on dps uptime

[rose jewel]

buff shield, coffee sip, buff heal shield, another sip

[ashen kindle]

do i check the designated a char gold earn?

[rose jewel]

if you have 6 or less than 6 chars, dont bother

[ashen kindle]

i have 6 do i check them all?

[rose jewel]

well, yes

idk if they should automatically get checked but check them anyway

[ashen kindle]

like this?

[grand crystal]

Hello, I am thinking of jumping back into Lost ark been several months maybe 4-5 anyone have a or know where to get a good guide on what I need to focus on for my return so I’m not so lost 😎 (see what I did there)and decide to give up.

[rose jewel]

not a lot of guides are up to date, but maxroll has a lot of them

[ashen kindle]

maan i got 6 horse now lmao\

[grand crystal]

Yeah not much on YouTube either

[rose jewel]

most important thing to do and know:
1- check the roadmap and the patch notes for events and freebies ( #announcements #official-updates )
2- 100% honing buff for t1 and t2, way easier t3 until 1415 (global buffs like kr)
3- legion raids up to clown are up
4- reaper coming next month, summoner after on dec
5- tripod rework incoming, if you can do the cheese method do it(more info at #info-dump )

[ashen kindle]

i almost forgot ive never use tripod i shoud start doing it T.T

[rose jewel]

you cant really use it optimally until 1415 anyway

besides it can cost a lot of pheons and gold, depending on the class

[ashen kindle]

but they say its too important to forget/skip

this is good right?

[maiden locust]

yeah

[ashen kindle]

i dont want to make mistake again lool

i have too many t1 alt

[limpid obsidian]

Anybody know the formula for Atk. Power? (i.e: how to convert weapon power and STR/DEX/INT into Atk Pwr)

[glacial night]

whats this about

[void cove]

I usually dont have much trouble finding these but Ive been staring at this map for so long and I cant find it x=x halp

[crisp turtle]

AP = sqroot(mainstatxWeapon power/6)

[void cove]

Thats not the same map?

[pseudo atlas]

uh that is definitely the correct map

you can even see the area name on the top

[crisp turtle]

crocyns is weird, it splits the map into two sections on your Tab map

[void cove]

Then why does mine say that its in the area? Weird

[crisp turtle]

go towards the yellow arrow on your minimap

[pseudo atlas]

in the area == correct area

[void cove]

Ohh I see okay

[void cove]

I know that, but the map I have pulled up says its in the area, but the map they showed me was different than the map I posted a picture of, thats why I was confused. I understand now though about the seperate section. Thank you guys

[rose jewel]

restart pc, turn off router for 10mins, try again

[grand crystal]

Anyone a fan of lost ark with a controller thinking of hooking the PC to a TV and using a controller just not sure if the support is very good.

[pseudo atlas]

you will get a decent amount of input lag

because of the tv

[grand crystal]

Well don’t want that

[pseudo atlas]

won't matter in 95% of cases

[timber mauve]

If you have a fancy tv with a ‘game’ mode, that tends to help.

[grand crystal]

What the input lag as in I shouldn’t worry about it?

[grand crystal]

I do

[timber mauve]

Then give it a shot. Not like it hurts to just try it.

[grand crystal]

True.

[rose jewel]

oof, maintenance

[pseudo atlas]

i am telling you this as a player with controller on a tv with game mode, ain't that big a deal

controller support...is acceptable for melee

[grand crystal]

Cool thanks for the suggestion

[pseudo atlas]

there are a huge amount of weird quirks with controllers that i have no idea if they will ever fix

but at the least melee classes can be played with few if any issues

[spare heron]

is facet a max lvl thing? i just did the purple guide quests where i got 5 stoned wich i already used 1 but i dont know if i should use the rest since i quite dont understand what to choose etc etc

[grand crystal]

My main is striker

[pseudo atlas]

ain't got no experience with that, sorry

[rose jewel]

you can live without many engravings until 1370+, use a stone for the hp, look up on engravings but dont worry about it till later

[tepid solar]

when do tickets to convert your class to another come out?

[rose jewel]

never

[pseudo atlas]

extremely never

[tepid solar]

I know I'm just sad that I don't get accepted into groups with 4x3x2

[rose jewel]

? what has that to do with class change

[tepid solar]

It's a deadeye

[maiden locust]

for what?

[rose jewel]

so? deadeye is good

[tepid solar]

Vykas hm and pelase try getting accepted

[pseudo atlas]

4x3 + 2 is more than acceptable for everyone, the real issues would be combat stats, negative engravings, roster level, and rng if people are just shit

[maiden locust]

just make your own party

[pseudo atlas]

4x3 + 2 for vykas hm is like hyper overkill but people want titles and experienced players in pf

[crisp turtle]

the real issue is the deadgeye meme, engravings aint gonna help that

[tepid solar]

^

[pseudo atlas]

if you say so

[crisp turtle]

exact same for zerkers, class bias is a thing

im not saying its a good thing, but it exists

[maiden locust]

i dont have many problems with zerk

[tepid solar]

Just wish I could convert it to a different class tbh

[maiden locust]

why

[rose jewel]

doesnt help that the one zerker i invited to the party died 3 times in a row first

[stark siren]

how do you see which direction vykas air raid is coming from

[ashen kindle]

cant you make your main alt then create new one?

[maiden locust]

wont help with not getting accepted

[tepid solar]

Got 5 main characters ig just my DE is second highest and doesn't get into groups is all

[stark siren]

5 mains kap

[rose jewel]

when you go for a hard vykas on ilv and there are 1500+ aplying, dont expect much

[stark siren]

yea realistcally im gonna pick the higher ilvl and 5x3 over you

[ashen kindle]

Look guild maybe they will help you. i got guild and theyre carrying my ass lmfao

[stark siren]

wait till you're 5x3 and still get denied

[rose jewel]

dude got lucky, my guild i have to carry them (jk)

[tepid solar]

Can't wait

[crisp turtle]

my guild is me and all my alts

[charred pendant]

i dont think you can which is why everyone stacks up and gets ready to go inside or outside

[rose jewel]

just over hone every raid and get in ez

[stark siren]

i was watching someone do inferno vykas and they called the direction before she appeared

seems useful for non inferno

[charred pendant]

the direction shouldnt matter, you want to look at the lines on the ground

[crisp turtle]

i mean, it doesn't really matter where shes coming from
i guess it might on hellkas, never seen it

[rose jewel]

go to the hell academy discord, perhaps you can learn more there

[stark siren]

it helps slightly

[rose jewel]

but if you cant spacebar when she has the sword, well.....

[stark siren]

knowing the direction

[charred pendant]

from experience i'd say its left -> right direction most of the time

[pseudo atlas]

did they call where she's coming from or did they call where to move

[rose jewel]

that doesnt matter, its either updown or sides, i think that's what he's asking, which shouldnt even matter in the first place, just dodge if sword

[stark siren]

the moment she disappeared they called top left and she did fly from top left

[charred pendant]

knowing the direction doesnt matter, its drawing lines on the ground at the same speed it would from any side

maybe they're stacking top left

[stark siren]

yea but you know which direction to spacebar to

[rose jewel]

lol, that doesnt has anything to do with that mech, they stack for another mech (probably)

[stark siren]

it was at 0 bars stagger

[pseudo atlas]

yeah the direction doesn't matter, though without any other context it'd be because people running wide aspect ratio or some other method

[stark siren]

[rose jewel]

again, go to hell academy

not really many people know about hellkas here, they should

[charred pendant]

knowing what direction she is coming from does not tell you to stand between or outside the lines

[stark siren]

yea but lets say she flies from left to right and you want ppl to dodge left, eveyrone gets hit

[charred pendant]

if there was a way to tell if she was drawing the 1 line or the multi-line would definitely help

[stark siren]

knowing the direction helps

[rose jewel]

they went there for a reason, im pty sure, another mech, going to 12 for that mech has no sense

[charred pendant]

if she flies from left to right, youre not dodging left, youre dodging eitehr up or down or staying still

[stark siren]

this is the time stamp maybe someone can figure it out https://youtu.be/JPZ3EsmVQfQ?t=2523

[ashen kindle]

Scrapper supposed to be taijutsu right?

[stark siren]

yea but they called left before she even showed sword or not

[rose jewel]

you can be shock or tai, both are fine

[stark siren]

which doesnt make sense

[ashen kindle]

thanks

[stark siren]

if she flies from left to right and then the call was left i would be weirdge

[tepid solar]

doesn't really make sense for me to push it for it to get denied anyway for a different class at same ilvl

[stark siren]

why would you call up/down/left/right without knowing the direction before hand

[charred pendant]

they're calling the direction yes, but youre reacting to the lines on the ground not the direction she is flying

[stark siren]

[charred pendant]

they're not saying to dodge up/left

[stark siren]

seems pretty coincidental to call up left and she did fly from there i guess

got confused

[charred pendant]

they called "up/left" and they literally stood still

[rose jewel]

perhaps hell has a standard rotation of flying, or a specific telling, but they're calling where she gonna fly / how, not where to dodge

[stark siren]

yea

[stark siren]

i was asking how they know where she is flying from

[pseudo atlas]

the answer you seek is not here, apparently

[robust moat]

sorry just a bit curious is there any stat difference between legion raid relic rings and chaos dungeon ones?

[rose jewel]

3rd time's the charm, maybe ask in hell academy, i have 0 knowledge bout hellkas

[stark siren]

yea looks like

[charred pendant]

^

[pseudo atlas]

no, all same-rarity gear has all the same stats

[stark siren]

how do i get in

[rain meadow]

Probably be better to ask in the hellacademy questions channel

[robust moat]

oh alright thanks

[rose jewel]

what are your engravings again

[rain meadow]

The hell academy invite is literally "hellacademy"

[rose jewel]

you can maybe go to saintone twitch and type !hell, it should prompt the discord, i dont have the discord myself

[stark siren]

oh

[hot dock]

where to start mystic quest?

[pseudo atlas]

there's a quest?

[tepid solar]

CD, Pistol (Maybe why tbh low dmg not 5x3) , Grudge , Adren , PD 2 I think? 1470 full relic set.

[hot dock]

idk it says to complete quest before doing the abyssal

[maiden locust]

you need to do the argos quest before you can do it for some reason

[pseudo atlas]

i see

but that quest is 1370 required...hmm

[maiden locust]

yeah

[rose jewel]

bugs in my perfect AAA game? no way

[pseudo atlas]

probably standard amazon miscommunication

[maiden locust]

makes sense since mystic was there before the quest existed

[pseudo atlas]

they did mystic raid before they added argos raid in other regions?

[maiden locust]

yeah mystic is old tier 2 abyss raid

[pseudo atlas]

i see

[wanton needle]

No wonder mystic raid mech is trash

[maiden locust]

yup

[wild jackal]

do i need to watch guide before mystic?

[maiden locust]

nah

[wanton needle]

Nah, just wipe a few times until someone explains what's going on

[wary summit]

is there an lfg channel in this server?

[remote parrot]

does the adventure rewards tome on the top right disappear after you hit 1370?

[pseudo atlas]

adventure rewards tome?

[wanton needle]

Only the mokoko reward disappear when your highest level char is 1370.

[remote parrot]

oh ok

[remote parrot]

thats what i was talking about i think

the book where you get reward for islands, certain completion on adventure tome and ilvls

[rose jewel]

#979604974218653736 on your region

[wanton needle]

Adventure tome and everything under collection is perma

[remote parrot]

o ok

[wary summit]

mf jus typed out a channel that dont exist waaa

[wanton needle]

Lol

[rose jewel]

yep

only the chosen ones can see that channel

[wary summit]

welp guess im in queue time purgatory

[shy yarrow]

[remote parrot]

i wzs talking about this

[rose jewel]

get your region role dude #navigation

welcome challenge poofed long time ago, mokoko challenge is here now, and that one goes away when someone turns 1370

[wanton needle]

Ya. That's mokoko rewards for newbie which you aren't once you hit 1370

[remote parrot]

ok i was just making sure

i thought it just got deleted or smthing, hadnt realize until now

[woven totem]

excuse me, what should l choose with these and what should l do with my pirate coins?

[maiden locust]

the sun coins give the most pirate coins but you also need the other ones for horizontal stuff

[woven totem]

is the horizontal stuff a "must"?

[remote parrot]

sun coins also buy the song for you twilight song

[maiden locust]

if you want skill points yes

[shy yarrow]

none of the horizonatal content is a must, you should do it but you do not have to

[woven totem]

what is the twilight son for? does it help the progress of my char?

[thin token]

u dont have to do everything, just do stuff that gives u the skill points. Thats what i did but i am still missing ignea token (6 skill points) but i prolly will never do that one not a big deal either

[woven totem]

the skill points for sure are important, l would like to get those. Which type of coin is the one that would allow me to get some skill points?

[verbal sluice]

hi... just wanna ask if the boss rush and cube are fixed already

[shy yarrow]

check out the skill point guide on maxrolls site

[maiden locust]

not yet

[shy yarrow]

check announcements

[verbal sluice]

thanks

[rose jewel]

#announcements #official-updates please try to read all there

[thin token]

mostly gineah coins but im not 100% sure. U should definetly save all ur selectable pirate coin chests and use them little by little as u need them

[rose jewel]

even if you ask 100 times, if its not there, its not getting fixed

[wanton needle]

I'm praying they give us x3 boss rush soon

[thin token]

https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/resources/where-to-use-sailing-coins#ftoc-heading-4 will give u TLDR what u can get with sailing coins and https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/resources/lost-ark-skill-point-guide will give u TLDR to collect skill point sources

[ashen kindle]

guys SH should be demonic impulse right?

[rose jewel]

should, no, you can use either spec, but DI is the "popular" one

[woven totem]

thank you so much, it seems like l didnt count right... l have this much

[cursive shadow]

So I got bard to ilvl 1415 and have a 3x3x1 setup for her I want to raise some characters to ilvl 1370 now to have more gold earning characters
My plan is to make Tai scrapper ,artilerist/shadowhunter,gunlamcer/destroyer
When it comes to Tai scrapp which is the recommended build swift or crit

[rose jewel]

#scrapper :3

[sullen spire]

anyone else not get skewers/ ribs from argos? do you have to bel ike under 1415 to get them? or is it only for like legion raids?

[rose jewel]

sigh

#announcements #official-updates

if only people read more official announcements, they wouldnt be rioting about a free expired powerpass they let go

and asking for compensation, on something free

[crisp turtle]

you can either go 70/30 swift crit. 50/50 or 30/70
all are viable, just depends if you like yellow numbers or more numbers

[thin token]

50/50 is like the "feels best" variant. I am use 50/50

[cursive shadow]

Is one easier to play or cheaper than the other

[crisp turtle]

swift is slighty easier to play, as faster animations and you move faster
but neither is difficult
because all variations are popular, i dont think any are cheaper

i play swift, but thats just cos all my chars are swift, and i like being speedy

[cursive shadow]

Ok

[crisp turtle]

i mean, when the ingame system tells you something, i dont think its a crazy idea to believe what it says.
do i think amazon should compensate people? no.
Do i think they fucked up? massively

[rose jewel]

for sure, its a bug that has lasted months, but this is not a 1 player game, mmos always has a massive amount of info, i think, personally, that you should research a bit more playing mmos

[limpid obsidian]

Is there any way to search the Auction House in other regions from a web browser? I've heard there's an API for the KR version

[rose jewel]

honest question, what is the benefit of that for us the west folks (searching KR market while playing EU/NA)

[crisp turtle]

agreed, but researching something is different to being told something ingame that is just wrong

[limpid obsidian]

I'm curious of the state of the market

[rose jewel]

guess you can ask in the KR chat then,or RU or JP, get yourself the roles

[timber spoke]

Good everyone. Today is started playing losk ark RU and i plan to main Artist. however i can't find a levelling guide for her so i need some help UwU

[maiden locust]

you checked maxroll?

[timber spoke]

yes there's nth

[maiden locust]

then i dont think there are any guides

[timber spoke]

aw 😦

[rose jewel]

maxroll doesnt have class guides not yet in west release

you can either 1- get the role for KR JP RU, or 2- check loawa

[dawn totem]

hey guys, i was just wondering. is anyone really able to gear up 5x3 + gems without RMT? i do my dailies, weeklies, story, everything. i can't even afford one good accessory or engraving:( getting very discouraged.

[rose jewel]

or just get the artist role in this discord?

[rose jewel]

yes its perfectly doable, rmt has nothing to do with that

[trail hawk]

you could have started on na or eu, and by the time artist comes here youd have better understanding of the game and also mats to lvl up artist to legion raids asap

[rose jewel]

if you are looking for nearly perfect quality BiS accesories for a class, its going to cost an arm and a leg, ofc not all accesories are extremely expensive but some are, it all depends on the class and build, besides, rock and legendary books play a huge part, yes its expensive to get everything, but you are aiming for current end goal for end game

you need to have a good roster of 6 characters farming gold and mats (and selling things like tradable leaps) to start getting good gold (or get lucky with drops), that takes time, because as you hone your alts, you run out of gold, but when all the alts are at a comfy ilv to get good gains, and you DONT HONE for a couple weeks, gold will start piling up

if you dont play with 6 chars, yes it will take longer, logically

dont get discouraged, some people are playing since day 1 and dont yet have a full 6 roster 1430+, or chars at 5x3

that's the thing with MMOs, its a marathon, you get there eventually, slowly

[cursive shadow]

Um so as a new player it's a good course of actions to get one character to 1415-1460 and than get a few alts to 1370 to start getting gold every week to have decent income of gold and mats ?

[trail hawk]

yeah

[rose jewel]

correct

[trail hawk]

but having few chars in t3 along the main one will also speed up getting to 1460

like at 1355 or so

[rose jewel]

you will be low on resources because you are just starting to build your farmers, once everything is in place, mats will get in faster, you will hone faster, you get more gold per alt at higher ilv, sooner it will be super fast to level up alts to 1415+

1370 or nothing, 1355 yoho expedition is fixed

[cursive shadow]

Yeah im now starting to work on getting 2-3 characters to 1370
Was going to do do scrapper first since she's 1302
But might make a character at t1 to be able to do islands

[dawn totem]

thank you for your answer! @rose jewel. i guess the answer for me is doing this in a way way longer scale of time. that means always being very behind tho, which doesn't feel great but.. i guess i have no choice the thing is 3 of the classes i want to play are not even out, and i don't want to put time (which i have little of) and resources into characters that i will abandon later...

[rose jewel]

sunk cost fallacy

[trail hawk]

look at it like so, in wow, only most hc guild first clear mythic raids, then after mech is known rest of the guilds follow. many of them dont even do mythic raiding

[rose jewel]

i mean you can just create a duplicate of what you already have, that way it hurts less to get rid of them, the other thing is buying char expansion tickets but that's if you wanna pay and play a lot more chars, that's up to you

[radiant laurel]

If you can't find 1 class in the 20 that are out now that you like then I doubt the other new 3 will make much difference ngl

[ancient lark]

yeah if you don't have money or lucky drop then you'll having hard time keeping up

[rose jewel]

i mean, they can watch video guides of the class, if they like it visually, they can wait for it to come

like people maining artist while they never played her before

[ancient lark]

except you play 24/7 to optimize gold gain

[dawn totem]

i have never said that? xD i am playing sorceress and bard, i love them. i don't like the other classes that much. what im waiting for is artist, aeromancer and summoner. i played those in Korea, and i know i love them.

[rose jewel]

i consider myself a femzerker main btw

[ashen kindle]

is it worth doing adventure tome?

[rose jewel]

yes, but later on

[trail hawk]

depends how into the rewards of it are you

[rose jewel]

there you go, she already played them

[ashen kindle]

okay thanks

[cursive shadow]

Among shadowhunter,artilerist, destroyer and gunlancer who is the cheaper and easier to build also I heard destroyers are getting buffed soon

[rose jewel]

or he

[dawn totem]

i live in korea, but im not from here. been waiting so long for the game to be translated so i could play with other english speaking people :< i have played every class that has not been released, that's how i know what i really want to play xD if you never tried those before but you already decided to main them, then yes it is hazardous

[trail hawk]

sh sure isnt cheap, for others check what engravings they need then check the market for accs

[rose jewel]

ez cheap pre 1475 SH DI, post that all cost coz 5x3 blabla

1445 DI alt is actually cheap, 2 leggo acces and rock it till vykas hard

4x3 no problemo, still clears content

[cursive shadow]

Umm il be making one of them with one of my vern passes and was trying to decide who umm can I skip rohendel and some story places if my main already did them ?

[trail hawk]

with knowledge transfer

[rose jewel]

i believe the problem is the markets, kr has most things cheaper by now, but they also took the inflation slower due to slower content released overtime, west release is speedrunning everything, content, classes (in a way), legions and even inflation speedrun, and since we didnt have much time to build up resources, it feels bad

[dawn totem]

[cursive shadow]

Umm ok il think on which of the four il make but actually since I already have two female characters I'm playing with might start with artilerist/gunlancer/destroyer for some diversity

[rose jewel]

play whatever you find fun

[trail hawk]

why tho, all female best!

[rose jewel]

you bet if paladin had a female counterpart i would play that, but eh...

[misty fable]

yes 🍑

[cursive shadow]

I really like having a balance of female and male characters with the tip swinging a bit towards females il probably try to main summoner when she comes out so I want to build a decent roster till then we'll il flip a coin between artilerist gunlancer and destroyer umm I heard they're balancing destroyer and doing some changes to arti soon right

[ashen kindle]

i love the event T.T too many silvers and honing mats T.T

[maiden locust]

yeah its nice, first time you get boxes of mats instead of just mats

so you can save them

[cursive shadow]

The mystic raid ?
Is it hard to do it?

[maiden locust]

nah

[cursive shadow]

Are the mats/box that drops from the even is it character bound or roster bound ?

[maiden locust]

im not sure tbh

[ashen kindle]

its on pouche right? not on box T.T

[maiden locust]

its boxes of mats

[ashen kindle]

only the honing shard are on the box i just bought it all T.T

[cursive shadow]

Welp decided to start with gunlancer

[maiden locust]

the rest is in boxes aswell

[cursive shadow]

How long does it take to get a character from t1 to t3 more or less

[maiden locust]

a week orso

[cursive shadow]

Ok

[ashen kindle]

i did t1 to t3 5-6 days

[cursive shadow]

Ok

[rose jewel]

you do it in 1 day if you have the resources :3

[cursive shadow]

Probably don't have them kk I have some don't know if enough for 1 day t3

[rose jewel]

just take it slow, marathon, not sprint

[ashen kindle]

im not crazy right? after + 15 theres only 10% chance of honing?

and you cannot use materials for adding %?

[fair mantle]

You can

[ashen kindle]

:3 i cant aadd the mending tailor 10% T.T

[fair mantle]

You can add the solars, but those are inefficient with armour

And there were books which added 10% too but they expired

[ashen kindle]

Oww I see okay thanks

[rose jewel]

welcome to high t3

and it goes lower, and lower, and lower

[river ravine]

whats the hotkey for deleting interests and likes for stronghold

[eternal zenith]

max roster level 250 right now right ? And what happened if we reached 250 b4 they update more ?

[maiden locust]

nothing

[eternal zenith]

my roster exp

[fiery zinc]

should support alts open valtan chest 1415?

ima park them for awhile there, wouldn't they naturally generate enough bones

[maiden locust]

you dont have to

[cursive shadow]

Umm a question knowledge transfer only clears story stages for me right it won't boost the ilvl or something right ?

[maiden locust]

correct

[cursive shadow]

Ok thx

[crisp turtle]

vykas mats will be your bottleneck for yearning set
feel free to buy the chest as its good value for mats, but don't buy it for the bones

[fiery zinc]

u sure the mats is even worth?

i know argos chest is, but i thought legion chests were pretty garbo for mats

[cursive shadow]

Ok I think I'm gonna go with a destroyer in the end it looks quite cool for me was debating mostly between destro and gunlancer

[rose jewel]

you can just wait 2 or 3 more weeks if you dont want to buy the chests, that's up to you

[cursive shadow]

How does the the dragonlike skin for warrior is called like don't know how to describe it excactly

[crisp turtle]

not as good as argos, but still better than market value

[maiden locust]

nice

[olive saddle]

Lost ark is my fav game I’ve played 2022 I’m happy I found this game

[maiden locust]

nice

[forest zinc]

how should i get the 1x for igniter and hitmaster?

[maiden locust]

did you buy the wrong acc?

[rose jewel]

is that a +5 igniter accesory and are you using +9 books?

[ashen kindle]

Didn’t knew there was a maintenance

[rose jewel]

now you know

[ashen kindle]

4hours

[rose jewel]

that's why i always say to read things up in #announcements and #official-updates

[ashen kindle]

Yeah I read it

[rose jewel]

i bet my a$$ off people going to the forums yelling "MY VALTAN ENTRY" or vykas or w/e because they didnt even see the ingame message

[shy yarrow]

surely people would check the announcements before asking questions here

[fair mantle]

Theres still like 4hrs to maintainance tho

[pine oasis]

can someone explain the mech where vykas has small half red half black circle around her feet?

[rose jewel]

for people not playing currently, or just booting up the game, there are ingame announcements anyway for that

[rose jewel]

where she points the sword either red or black and casts inside or outside aoe? sword on red inside safe

[shy yarrow]

im still waiting for the day they use the annoucements ingame properly

[pine oasis]

its just a small circle.

[rose jewel]

exactly what im saying, unless its yet another mech

Sword on red, Inside safe
Sword on black, go outside

[pine oasis]

oh

i never saw a sword

[echo owl]

use front indicator of boss, check whatever is clockwise of it

[rose jewel]

those are the little details that you cant focus on if you havent ran the raid for the 100th time, as you do it more and more to the point of it being homework and doing it literally on autopilot you notice a lot more things, like counter patterns, where to dodge etc

pure muscle memory and pattern recognition from practice

[uneven robin]

It’s pretty fast so sometimes u can’t even react to it

[slim beacon]

am thinkin about makin scrapper or striker

do they have decent dmg ?

[maiden locust]

yes'

[slim beacon]

which would u recommend ?

or save for summoner ?

[maiden locust]

scrapper since its a lot cheaper to build then striker

[maiden locust]

thats up to you

summoner comes in december

[slim beacon]

i might make a class that helps me farm t2 items

and park it there

[maiden locust]

why?

[slim beacon]

last t2 guardian gives alot of sellable leapstones

[maiden locust]

true but nobody does t2 gaurdians

t3 character makes a lot more gold

[slim beacon]

its not a 6th char btw
it wont give any gold

[maiden locust]

ahh

still you will make more from chaos and gaurdians in tier 3

[slim beacon]

i'll be too lazy to run chaos on 10 alts

[maiden locust]

do it on rested

[slim beacon]

how :(

[maiden locust]

what do you mean how

[ashen kindle]

is it worth to pay for valtan bus normal?

[maiden locust]

no just do it yourself

[ashen kindle]

im noob and i have trash engraving no one will let me join T.T

[maiden locust]

what are you engravings

[lunar harbor]

alright team help me out I need a +12 engraving and idk currently I play glaive pin (main), db surge, scrapper shock, and barrage arti the most and then reaper thirst will probs be my new main what should I get? RN imo grudge and KBW not worth buying bec of how expensive they are. I was thinking either like go adrenaline but only half my classes use it or buy a cheap ass engraving from each class 🤔 unfort the class engravings are expensive too lmao (also haven't gotten thronespire leggos yet)

[ashen kindle]

2x3 loool

[maiden locust]

just get 3x3 with argos, oreha accs and you will be fine

[ashen kindle]

i will have to buy access first im gonna find some sorc to teach me

[maiden locust]

you dont have to buy accs only a stone and purple books

[rain meadow]

Dont need to buy really

Except maybe the necklace

[ashen kindle]

how can i get 3x3 without buying? T.T

[rain meadow]

Hard to drop a decent qual neck with igniter on it and both good stats

[maiden locust]

you get accs from argos and oreha with class

[rain meadow]

Or reflux, if that's your thing

[ashen kindle]

im igniter

I want to buy necklace 😄

[rain meadow]

Well the idea is to do argos p3 and oreha hard, and look through the accessories that drop, hopefully there will be some high qual pieces with the correct stat (spec) and dont have too many negatives that will give youba +1 negative engraving

[ripe sedge]

Question about event... can I craft the meat stuff? Since I have no chars available to do Oreha HM (all 1415+) and I'd rather not spend like 1k gold to open Valtan / Vykas chests just for these meats (much fewer meat than Oreha HM)

[ashen kindle]

necklace is too cheapa only 1k? but quality is trash

[rain meadow]

The meat and stuff doesnt come from the boxes

Its just for clearing

[ashen kindle]

i dont think im getting drop from oreha T.T i reach 1415

[maiden locust]

you still get the accs

[rain meadow]

You get accessories still, just no gold

[ashen kindle]

ow okay

[rain meadow]

Anyway back to work; look for igniter, all out attack, and hit master

[ripe sedge]

So if I don't open any chests, I never get any meat for the week?

[rain meadow]

You dont open any chests, youll get all the meat you need. There is no meat in the chests

[maiden locust]

if you can you should get 4x3 with relic accs

it shouldnt be that expensive if you use double class book or class on leg rings

[ripe sedge]

I could have sworn the chests had 2 new items added to them

[modern apex]

question . is legendary book just guna keep go up in price ?!

[rigid plank]

May or may not, it varies on the economy and demand

[modern apex]

want to purchase raid captian books in west .., they go up in price so much .. not sure when is the best time to buy

[shy yarrow]

unless they introduce a new event that gives tradable books or some other source they will stay expensive

[tacit snow]

hi, azena rapport level reached trust 1, i cant interact with her bcz i need to do the mission but the mission option is not there, even the map icon is not there

[radiant flame]

You got azena rapport to trusted and you still want to do a mission?

[tacit snow]

not sure what is calle din english is friendly 1

[radiant flame]

Oh friendly

Have you accepted the quest on another character?

[tacit snow]

no, it just level up

oh wait, i remember , i need to do the last mission but is in butterfly island

[sleek vale]

for the yellow daily quest at mokoko night market, is it once per roster?

[flat dagger]

Yes.

But the quest is redundant to do though.

[sleek vale]

is it cuz you get enough of the mats for gift set I from chaos/graid, etc?

[flat dagger]

Yup.

[sleek vale]

gotcha, ty

[urban nest]

Is there any way I can set a custom notification sound when I get a dm from LFG about wei card?

[fiery zinc]

whats the bid stopping point for 8 man raids, 4 man raids it's around 75% of market price

[radiant flame]

Around 80%, remember the sales tax if you intend to sell

[fierce prism]

I cant take selfies ingame because i have no printscreen key on my keyboard(65% keyboard) , looked in the keyboard settings to change key but cant find it. Is there a way to fix this?

[radiant flame]

Even 65s should have a function key combination which gives you print screen. Otherwise try a mouse macro?

[fierce prism]

thanks ill try that 👍

[flat dagger]

Windows' on-screen keyboard is a thing.
Works for Kakul-Saydon's platforming mechanics too.

[polar spade]

Why do we have maintenance today?

[flat dagger]

#announcements

[polar spade]

thanks

[cloud pendant]

How long is maintenance going for?

[minor crown]

4 hours

[flat apex]

does insult someone's gameplay count as being an asshole?

[maiden locust]

no

[flat apex]

not literally, I mean figuratively

[edgy tulip]

just got back into LA and noticed massive honing buffs pre legion raids, is +15 everything the most efficient path to 1415 now

[maiden locust]

it is

[dense gull]

is the new mokoko night island perm? am i free from shushire leaps

[maiden locust]

it is

[harsh mango]

Does anyone know, if my Knowledge transfer says something like "Requires 7/7 character to complete punika" and I delete 2 of my character that have done it, will it go back to 5/7?

[maiden locust]

it doesnt

[maiden locust]

it is permanent

[dense gull]

thanks

[flat dagger]

It also has 3 mokoko seeds and an island soul from the Una's task.

[ripe sedge]

servers down?

[flat dagger]

4 hour maintenance.
#announcements

[cloud pendant]

Do you guys recommend getting wep to +21 for 1490 or all +20 for a dps?

[maiden locust]

21 weapon

[cloud pendant]

Is it a lot stronger?

[fair mantle]

You need to go 1492.5 if you're going 21 weapon

Coz you need all armour pieces 20 at least for Abrel

[maiden locust]

?

[cloud pendant]

Who says that?

[fair mantle]

Defence gate

[maiden locust]

1 19 armor wont matter that much

[fair mantle]

Looks like you don't know what the defence gate is

[maiden locust]

i dont

[fair mantle]

If the average ilvl of your armour is below the minimum required ilvl for the raid you trigger the defence gate and take exponentially more damage

[maiden locust]

how much

[fair mantle]

At least 2x don't remember the numbers

[maiden locust]

even if 1 armor is below

[cloud pendant]

I see

[fair mantle]

Average

[cloud pendant]

Then I rather get everything to +20

[fair mantle]

You can have an armour 100 ilvl below but the average should be 1490

[fair mantle]

If you're pugging I still recommend 21 weapon

[maiden locust]

yeah

[cloud pendant]

Why?

[maiden locust]

to get accepted

[fair mantle]

It's already gonna be pretty hard to get accepted at 1492.5, 1490 is pretty much impossible

[brave rapids]

You'll need a +21 weapon anyways if you wanna do the Gates 3+4 cheese

[maiden locust]

not really

you can do it with +20 weapon and 21 armor

[brave rapids]

If you're DPS, you might as well do it on your weapon though. Chest if you're support I suppose

[maiden locust]

yeah i have 21 chest and pants and 20 weapon

[rough prawn]

U should do it with wep if you are dps

save up fused leaps noowww

[maiden locust]

but you dont have to

[fair mantle]

G3-4 isn't worth anyways unless you're hungry for content

[ashen kindle]

Guys did the maintenance start?

[brave rapids]

yes

[maiden locust]

yes

[brave rapids]

Which I am, but why not worth?

[ashen kindle]

I can’t see server status

[fair mantle]

They give like 700 gold each

[maiden locust]

might aswell do it its so easy to get 1500

[maiden locust]

0 if you buy the box

[fair mantle]

[maiden locust]

Is there any free power pass rn?

[rough prawn]

i think it js expired?

[round sorrel]

No

[maiden locust]

no

[fair mantle]

2 Vern powerpasses

[ashen kindle]

Guys I have 6,7 engraving stone is it good to make 4X3?

[round sorrel]

Yes

[fair mantle]

Yes

[maiden locust]

Not the best time for new player eh

[maiden locust]

yes

[brave rapids]

Actually, speaking of... which legion raids are worth doing if you're just in it for the gold? Say you've got your Clown+Brel gear completed, and you're only willing to run Brel G1-4, which legions are worth it?

[fair mantle]

A very good time actually

[echo owl]

you drop one of valtan or vykas

[maiden locust]

depends on which one you like to do

[ashen kindle]

This is my guild mate want me to follow but it’s too expensive I’m open to more tips/suggestion

[rain meadow]

Brel + 2 of the 3 we currently have

[ashen kindle]

The ring alone cost 120k

[fair mantle]

All are, all give 4.5k (Brel G1-2)

[echo owl]

most common it’s dropping vykas cause everyone hates that

[maiden locust]

get +1 adren instead

[brave rapids]

Oh they all give even amounts of gold?

[fair mantle]

Well coz you're building wrong

[somber mantle]

is there maintenance rn?

wtf i thought it was supposed to be 2 hours ago

[ashen kindle]

I have 9x Aoa and igniter

[rain meadow]

They arent necessarily building wrong, but igniter accessories are just expensive lol

[fair mantle]

Can you get 9x hit master?

[ashen kindle]

In what way

[maiden locust]

get leg class rings

[ashen kindle]

I can

[maiden locust]

valtan, vykas, clown, gate 1,2 brel give same amount of gold

[rain meadow]

What you could do is try and see if you can get 4x3 by using: 2x igniter +9, and then the 6/7 stone, and use the accessories to fill in the 3 engravings

[fair mantle]

Aoa should be on all accesories and u need to get rid of the grudge 3s

[brave rapids]

JUST Gates 1+2 Brel give the same amount of gold as all the other full legion raids??

[fair mantle]

Yes

[rain meadow]

You have a lot of options, some more expensive than others

[brave rapids]

That's insane wtf. 4.5k gold for 2 gates?

[maiden locust]

yes but gate 1.2 are pretty hard compared to the other raids

[flat dagger]

OH MY GOD, just like Valtan?!

[fair mantle]

[brave rapids]

Valtan's a full raid though. I thought they'd split the gold across more gates when a raid has 6

[fair mantle]

No one's doing 6 gates for 4.5k gold

[rain meadow]

Brel has the majority of tbe raid gold in the first two gates

The other 4 gates give like 1800 more? I dont remember

[fair mantle]

And it's to tend to the majority who can only do G1-2 first few weeks

[maiden locust]

5.6 hard gives like 3.5k and most people say its not worth doing in KR

[fair mantle]

Nah much more G3-4 are itself 1500

[fair mantle]

Yeah pretty sure it won't be worth while we're still at relic

[maiden locust]

i mean timewise

[fair mantle]

Yeah I meant that too

With relic gear it's pretty hard first few weeks

[maiden locust]

ofcourse

people still struggle with full 1600 lobbys

[fair mantle]

At least I won't be in Vykas jail anymore tho

[opaque aspen]

How long for the servers to start again?

[maiden locust]

brel jail will be worse when gate 6 is 20 min on its own

[fair mantle]

Gate 6 20 mins sounds less

[ashen kindle]

I see okay thank you

[fair mantle]

But it isn't rlly jail after G1-2 coz you pretty much already secured most of the gold

?

[flat dagger]

It's a long final fight.

[fair mantle]

20 mins is also less for it I think, usually see Korean streamers re a few times so takes longer

That's Brel hard tho

[opaque aspen]

?

[fair mantle]

3.5 hrs

[brave rapids]

They estimate 4 hours, could be shorter though.

[opaque aspen]

Ok so it's after today's reset

[fair mantle]

Yeah

[brave rapids]

Might get lucky with a 1.5 hour hotfix, they've done it before.

[rain meadow]

Gate 6 has a 20 minute enrage timer, i think thats what theyre refering to

[opaque aspen]

I wanted to do daily stuff on one character

[fair mantle]

I see thought he meant the overall fight

[opaque aspen]

The enraged timer on hell mode is less than normal for all legions?

[maiden locust]

no its the same

[rain meadow]

Pretty sure its the same

[opaque aspen]

Then the boss do more dmg?

[maiden locust]

your on ilvl and the boss does like 2x more dmg and has way more hp

[opaque aspen]

Ok

[fair mantle]

And new mechs

[opaque aspen]

That's between normal and hell?
Hard is like 1.5x?

[fair mantle]

Hell isn't comparable to normal and hard

[opaque aspen]

Why?

[maiden locust]

you cant overgear hell

[opaque aspen]

Ohh ok

[fair mantle]

Different mech, requires a lot of coordination, get one shot by basically everything, can't see hp bar etc

[rain meadow]

Everyone should try hell mode at least once in their loa career

[opaque aspen]

Also the rewards are skins cosmetics and stuff I heard

[rain meadow]

Titles and a statue for your stronghold

[opaque aspen]

Ok

[fair mantle]

Golden title for normal clear, gold icon title + sh structure for deathless

[opaque aspen]

So it's basically nothing for progress ig

[fair mantle]

The title is also a free pass into normal raids lmao

[maiden locust]

you get sh structure from normal clear

[maiden locust]

its just for flex

[fair mantle]

Mb then

[opaque aspen]

Yeq

[maiden locust]

so hell valtan gate 1 has 7x more hp then normal

[hearty epoch]

Bruh how the fuck do people make alts in this game lmao. Just came back into the game and i can hardly make any money since i need to do bus on everything so would have to gear altså from early tier one...

2,4k knowledge trans is expensive when honing once costs 400 after 1415 :///

[opaque aspen]

Tier 1 to 3 takes like... 1 day these days

[hearty epoch]

Huh? No way

You probably have to have hella stronghold upgrades then

[opaque aspen]

I mean the mats are so easy to get and honing takes too less

[maiden locust]

hell mode valtan has 4x more hp then hardmode

[opaque aspen]

Ohh
And 4x dmg?

[cloud pendant]

achates guardian trial not out yet right?

[maiden locust]

but you have full relic lvl 8gems and 5x3

[brave rapids]

There was a Global Honing buff that greatly reduced mats required to hone in T1 and T2, and also every hone is +2 now and 100% honing chance.

[maiden locust]

tommorow

[opaque aspen]

Cool

[maiden locust]

something like that yeah

[cloud pendant]

what is it like?

[rain meadow]

First clear will be pretty fast after release

[maiden locust]

same thing just more hp

[cloud pendant]

weekly stuff or daily?

[maiden locust]

its hellmode

[rain meadow]

Trial achates is basically hellmode achates

[cloud pendant]

but achates is a T2 guardian raid?

[rain meadow]

Yes

[flat dagger]

I want Hellmode Velganos

[maiden locust]

yup

and now we have a hellmode of it

[cloud pendant]

i mean is it a daily to do or a weekly?

[flat dagger]

Neither.

[rain meadow]

Apparently original hell velga wasnt cleared for 5-6 weeks after release in KR

[cloud pendant]

i havent been touching achates for too long

[maiden locust]

you just get a title for clearing hell achates

[cloud pendant]

and then?

[fair mantle]

It's just a slow process, but the push till 1370 and even 1415 is way easier now

[rain meadow]

A statue later

[maiden locust]

nothing

[cloud pendant]

what? lol so it doesnt give anything besides title?

[fair mantle]

The people to clear it first in every region got an icon title apparently

[maiden locust]

yeah thats with every hellmode

[cloud pendant]

pointless doing it haha

[rough prawn]

u get a legendary packiirc

[maiden locust]

for you

[fair mantle]

Nah

[rough prawn]

dont u get 1 with valtan?

[cloud pendant]

it's not gonna make me get into raids easier lol

[rough prawn]

it does

[fair mantle]

It is, demons roar is a free pass into everything

[cloud pendant]

are you giving false info?

[rough prawn]

U see pretend you are lead

[fair mantle]

But people don't do it for that, people do it coz they enjoy raiding or like a challenge

[rough prawn]

you see a 1430 gs x2 same stats same everything, one has demons roar the other one doesnt, who would u take?

[maiden locust]

cap

[cloud pendant]

but it doesnt make him better at vykas or valtan or clown

[rough prawn]

Thats not the point, who would u take>?

[fair mantle]

[cloud pendant]

having that title wont make me intant going for him

[fair mantle]

what

[brave rapids]

Someone with Demon's Roar probably is more experienced at Valtan than someone without lol

[rough prawn]

Thats a u thing ig lol

[cloud pendant]

im not saying demon roar

im saying with the achates title

[fair mantle]

[rough prawn]

What

[maiden locust]

first clear might

[rough prawn]

I thought the topic was helltan

[brave rapids]

^

[fair mantle]

It is

[maiden locust]

no we talking about achates

[fair mantle]

The point is ppl don't do it for the title for the most part, it's for the challenge and fun, the title is just a good incentive

Ppl with demons roar already still do helltan a lot

[maiden locust]

true

some just do it for the title and never do it again tho

[verbal galleon]

Hai guys
When should I really start making alts

[maiden locust]

when ever you feel like it

[verbal galleon]

I am still lvl 32 on my main char so i ak asking

[maiden locust]

still

[fair mantle]

When you get to 50 you get 2 powerpasses

[verbal galleon]

For free?

[fair mantle]

So use those whenever u feel like you have nothing else to do on your main, I would recommend using them before your main gets to T3

[verbal galleon]

Ok

Can i farm everything in this game not using real cash?

[fair mantle]

Yeah

[verbal galleon]

And does dungeons have time limit like abbysal and chaos

[hearty epoch]

Im 1415 just got into the game again and i have not made any alts that has made it into tier 3 yet...

Just used my powerpass on them.

[verbal galleon]

I am not doing any alts before I learn this game fully

[fair mantle]

What help do you need lol

[verbal galleon]

Because there will be no time for me to finish all dungeons on my main though

[hearty epoch]

Its just that, i hardly have any gold for engravings on my main, how the fuck am i gonna have money for my alts ://

[fair mantle]

Well with the honing buffs it doesn't require much gold rn to hone them, looks like you just fomoing lol

[hearty epoch]

I mean sure, getting a character to t3 from t1 prob wont take that long. But when you return to the game you still have sooo much to do on your main... Catching up on the following atm: Island Token, Rapport for important characters, Card system and thats BESIDES your daily stuff.

[mild tapir]

You don’t hone or gear your alts until one char is done and move on to the next

A six gold roster has a passive legion income of 60k? Or so and mat income plus drop income which is inconsistent

[fair mantle]

Island souls and rapport isn't rlly important as such, just horizontal, cards are something you get over a long period of time nothing to catch-up on really

[mild tapir]

I wouldn’t worry about Lego books for a while since 4x3 can clear very well and still gets accepted into raids

[hearty epoch]

I had pretty good engravings right before i hit 1415 but then now i have to do it all over since i get new accesorries from Valtan/post 1415 content.

[fair mantle]

Well usually people don't buy accesories before hitting 1415 since there isn't much content to do and you waste a lot of pheons and gold, keep that in mind on your alts then

[hearty epoch]

And you kinda have to buy new acces/books but bruh im living on lik 4k gold and since i have to bus everything i "lose" money on that.

[mild tapir]

Yup but ancients don’t give you stat increases just engraving increases so you’ll be set for a while with relic

[hearty epoch]

ITS HARD OUT HERE BRO

[mild tapir]

Just gotta take it slow lol

[hearty epoch]

Yeah yeah i get that

[fair mantle]

You're just fomoing just chill out and enjoy the game

[hearty epoch]

Gotta get some alts up, gold is bottlenecking me atm.

[mild tapir]

Yeah I always recommend aiming for the 6 gold roster limit ASAP then as passes come out you can move it around with new mains

[fair mantle]

When did you start playing? Or did you come back recently?

[hearty epoch]

Came back recently, liiiiike last weekend? And then i did the event and was excited for the 1370 pass but i missed it by one day :^)

[fair mantle]

The pass was 1302 lmao

[hearty epoch]

Yeah okay sure, still missed it :/

[somber mantle]

If you’re lucky there might be another one in 3 weeks

[fair mantle]

Rip you missed it, but should've gotten it coz getting to T3 takes like couple days 🙂

[rough prawn]

Does any1 know if express pass is still here

[fair mantle]

Express pass

[rough prawn]

Express event xd

[fair mantle]

It is

[hearty epoch]

And now i kiiiiinda wanna swap mains, since apperantly shadowhunters are kinda bad,

Also pretty slow class if you dont have wealth runes etc.

[fair mantle]

Lmao you're just getting affected by what others say so much, in terms of honing, alts and chars

The wealths are not hard to obtain

Only the one from sea bounties can take a while

[hearty epoch]

Omnius star thing takes a fucking while as well :/

[fair mantle]

They don't actually if you keep doing the tasks needed for them

A month should be more than enough

[maiden locust]

[hearty epoch]

Yee i guess i just gotta chill out and take things one step at a time.

[flat dagger]

This game is a marathon, not a sprint.

[hearty epoch]

Theres just sooo much, but i think making alts

[fair mantle]

? Una rep 14 days, and if u do anguished for 30 days you can drop it fo sho

[crisp fog]

i think ppl started with a tons of alt

[maiden locust]

can you do the una in 7 days if you use the una daily +1 thing?

[hearty epoch]

Huh? Nah i got some alts but they are in t1 lmao.

[fair mantle]

No

[fair mantle]

You can do tower it's free mats for T1 T2

[flat dagger]

Una's tasks only give reputation once per reset, if a different task is unlocked then you can do that one too for the same reputation though.

[fair mantle]

The event is a little scuffed for T1 T2 now ig since it gives chests

[crisp fog]

mine just spend too much gold on alts to makin at t3 lmao

[fair mantle]

what, you need 0 gold to get to T3

[crisp fog]

gold=fast bus

[flat dagger]

[fair mantle]

what bus before T3

[flat dagger]

Probably spent gold on KTs.

[mild tapir]

Trueee

[flat dagger]

Nothing else makes any sense here.

[hearty epoch]

KT?

[crisp fog]

i'm just bored to farm mats t1 t2 at tower

[flat dagger]

Knowledge Transfer.

[fair mantle]

You only need to KT Punika tho, for the most efficient path maybe he didn't

[hearty epoch]

Faaaacts going back to T1-T2 fucking suuucks

[somber mantle]

Who tf KTs punika

[crisp fog]

so the gold is the mega bus

[mild tapir]

If you’re doing the minimum on your alts you do KT throughout

You only login the lower tier alts to do chaos and tower, hone and KT

[fair mantle]

No you only KT Punika, most efficient for time

[hearty epoch]

Is KT to punika not worth??

[somber mantle]

Not for new player

[mild tapir]

Why is KT Punika most efficient for time?

[fair mantle]

Coz you can skip Yorn and Rohendel only have to do Feiton

[somber mantle]

If u have enough income go for it

[mild tapir]

I have an alt that can’t because it has to have the previous done

[hearty epoch]

Whats most efficent for someone who just hit 1415 on their main, with 2 alts in T1?

[mild tapir]

I’m locked out of KTs for Yorn and Rohendel

[fair mantle]

You don't KT York Rohendel you skip it

KT Vern, skip Rohendel Yorn, do Feiton, KT Punika

[mild tapir]

Wait so you’re suggesting I buy 100% of my mats? Lol

[crisp fog]

just do KT everything and skip all shit

[mild tapir]

And also my gear T.T

[somber mantle]

do tower, do islands that reward t1/t2 shards if u havent, buy the stones and hone

[fair mantle]

No?

[fair mantle]

And waste gold

[somber mantle]

Also I hope you have researched for honing cost reduction

[mild tapir]

I have an alt sitting at 600 iLevel was waiting for the mem transfer what is this method lol

[crisp fog]

ofc it help too much that u can skip all shit

[fair mantle]

I literally just said what it is

[crisp fog]

[mild tapir]

Buy T2 gear hone to punika

[fair mantle]

Fun fact, KTs aren't unlimited, it's alternate

[fair mantle]

@mild tapir

[mild tapir]

You still have to be like 840 for Feiton though

[crisp fog]

but great option to skip story, well 8 hr is fckin tons of shit

[fair mantle]

Yeah that much mats are chump change since it's 2 hones per tap now, better than wasting 2 hrs

[mild tapir]

As long as it doesn’t cost pheons it makes sense yeah for the T2 gear

[fair mantle]

If you skip everything you have to do everything on another alt to unlock for another, you're the one doing 8hr stories, I'm only doing 2 hr

[mild tapir]

I’ll give this a shot later today

[fair mantle]

It's only 6 pheons that's like 400g

[mild tapir]

Ugh well actually maybe not I have 4 characters that I’d rather just sit til KT increases

And just pass the last

[flat dagger]

EUC pheon prices are like 200g per pheon @fair mantle Still relatively cheap compared to multiple KTs though.

[fair mantle]

Yeah much higher, I probably confused it with prices earlier since I did this long back

[hearty epoch]

How do you skip stuff tho?

[mild tapir]

Knowledge transfers from stronghold and power passes from events or bought

[fair mantle]

You don't do it?

KT and skipping is different

[mild tapir]

Oh I see what you’re saying. I have a 24 character roster. The 4 aren’t significant to my roster @hearty epoch

[hearty epoch]

I have yet to get an alt about ilvl 400 lmao

I have no idea how to do my alts.

[mild tapir]

I would just make a character and knowledge transfer it. It goes from level 10 to 50. Once it’s 50 I’ll do chaos and tower hone it and do the next transfer. Rinse and repeat

[fair mantle]

Just do them normally, like your main for now, since you said you're on a gold constraint, but do tower for mats

[mild tapir]

Other than that I’d just wait on the power passes during events

Earlier in the game there wasn’t much you could do in T3 so that’s when I did a bunch of the story without anything but nowadays it’s a pretty big inefficiency of time

[somber mantle]

you can get 50 roster bound leapstones from anguished isle per character >=1100 ilvl

https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/category/island also check this out

yep

[sturdy lichen]

tyty

[cloud pendant]

Will there ever be honing buff from 1415 to 1445?

[maiden locust]

if we do it will be years away, even KR only has upto 1415

[cloud pendant]

Oh wow

[maiden locust]

yeah

[cloud pendant]

How far ahead is KR from us

[buoyant herald]

probably around a year+

[maiden locust]

yeah something like that

[hearty epoch]

Is Bel the latest boss in korea as well or?

[buoyant herald]

nah they have akkan the one after brel

and there is also a dungeon in between that comes with elgacia

[radiant flame]

We’re also only getting Brel normal in Dec. Brel hard will be a couple more months again.

[buoyant herald]

yeah

[hearty epoch]

I see some people saying that playing now so close to Brel is not worth it for new players, why is that?

[maiden locust]

KR will have theamine before we get brel hard

[buoyant herald]

its hard starting off everything is expensive as fuck and all that shit
its always worth playing tho

[maiden locust]

And the head, what is that?

[buoyant herald]

not sure XD but i think you are thinking about one of the brel gates boss

[maiden locust]

The Head and the mini boss that fight like anime villain

thats gate 2 brel

[radiant flame]

The later you start the more there is to catch up. Same with any MMO

Economy is a bit rough. Though at the same time, a bunch of us who played from the street wasted a ton of time in t1/2 which new players basically don’t have to do.

[buoyant herald]

having to catch up isnt bad tho just means you have more content 😄
well the only downside is that the lower end stuff might be a bit dead

[radiant flame]

Exactly. Just the nature of an active MMO

[maiden locust]

Indeed the whole time before getting the ship feels pretty dead

[hearty epoch]

More content is kinda weird tho, since if you are new, you kinda have to bus all the fun stufff.

[maiden locust]

Surrounded by gzitstztyszydyzy

[radiant flame]

You don’t have to