lost-ark-help

[balmy oracle]

certain items are added together, certain items like cards are matched and duplicates deleted, etc @maiden locust

[thin token]

sailing coin chest is usually in log-in bonus and should be there after the update and log-in bonus reset right? Im pretty smadge i need ginaeh coins to complete my LOS 18 lol

[pliant pivot]

so the free one doesnt work?

[silk shard]

well if you can use it on a created character that you can leave in trixion, then it should work

[amber spruce]

guys i have 3.5k gold...is it worth to spend 3k on skins since tommorow is weekly reset?

[balmy oracle]

So you have to leave the char in trixion forever to make the skip work or something? you keep repeating that step

[dire chasm]

btw for the expiration date for powerpass is said no limit. does it change anything?

[silk shard]

Well, use powerpass on a new character that is in trixion. wait for scouter to release. go onto that character and pick scouter class. then it will do the skip to punika

[flat dagger]

No one can answer this for you, it's subjective. The virtue stats are pointless though.

[balmy oracle]

i see ty for explaining

[silk shard]

Has to be a Male Gunner ofcourse

[amber spruce]

im buying skins to look good not for stats

[amber spruce]

subjective? so if it was u what would u do?

[flat dagger]

Buy it, if I really wanted it.

[amber spruce]

ok then

[silk shard]

are there even any skins for 3k though 🤔

[flat dagger]

Doubtful

[lilac pelican]

How much do you have to spend for Trust factor

[amber spruce]

? there skin for even less than 100gold

[silk shard]

5 EUR i think

[lilac pelican]

iv spent over 100

[silk shard]

do you have 2FA on your account

[lilac pelican]

on near 500 hrs played

[flat dagger]

You are required to use Steam's 2FA now.

[lilac pelican]

iv had my account for 12 years no bans

[silk shard]

But do you have 2FA enabled

[lilac pelican]

all factors included even blizzards authenticator

[flat dagger]

???

[crisp turtle]

blizzard?

[lilac pelican]

yea they have one too

[silk shard]

Yeah but that doesn't work for your steam account

[lilac pelican]

ik

[low trail]

Blizzard doesn't have anything to do with Steam xd

[flat dagger]

@lilac pelican

[lilac pelican]

tadaaaaa

[silver rain]

unused free powerpass will go poof on 28th (after maint) so if you havent used it by then then its gone.

[lilac pelican]

yes i have that

[crisp turtle]

where can uyou see that?

[flat dagger]

Settings -> Account - Top section

[dire chasm]

I see, ill use it now then

[silk shard]

@lilac pelican probably wanna contact Steam then

[lilac pelican]

i wonder if i like uncheck it nd re do the authenticate part

[dire chasm]

<3

[lilac pelican]

they redirect me to amazon as they cant help me

and amazon cant help me

[silk shard]

Lol, the Trusted status Lost Ark uses is literally from Steam. Customer support must be stupid then 😅

[lament egret]

Is there any official confirmation that the new tripod system comes tomorrow?

[silk shard]

Wont be coming tomorrow

[lilac pelican]

tomorrow is server merge n kakul

[lament egret]

aight good to know thx

[crisp turtle]

nothing official to say yes or no.

however, the fact other regions got notice a month in advance, makes it incredibly unlikely we're getting it tomorrow

[lament egret]

ah okay even better so there might still be alot of time

[radiant flame]

There will undoubtedly be time. They will need to give people notice otherwise people will straight up lose tripods if they are on gear only

[lilac pelican]

oe i found out why since i changed sim card from old phone its taken the authenticator off even thoe same number just new sim

[lament egret]

ah do the ones which are on gear not transfer? So I need one page to save all the ones which are on gear?

[radiant flame]

Yes. Tripods on gear will be deleted

[lament egret]

thx

[radiant flame]

You will only keep tripods in your inventory pages as a one-off

[regal salmon]

Are there any good docs,spreadsheets,cheat sheets that you can recommend for clown raid? (Except Maxroll guides^^)

[gloomy egret]

anyone can carry me

[rough hare]

Thats if they are nice enough to let us know

[urban topaz]

There's also this discord cheat sheet : #info-dump message

[rough hare]

Oh really?? thats great

[slim beacon]

am i the only one thinkin scouter is shit ?

[shy yarrow]

he's not even released in na/eu yet lol

[radiant flame]

I don’t think anyone really thinks scouter is a very strong class. But it is similar to SH in that the transformation archetype is incredibly cost efficient

Otherwise, I’m sure there will also be plenty of people who do not enjoy the playstyle, as with any class

[slim beacon]

i think the most enjoyable class to people is deathblade

[radiant flame]

Based on what? Do you know everyone’s playstyle preferences?

There are plenty of people who don’t even have a blade on their roster

[slim beacon]

ye i know but there a high % of those who like it

[radiant flame]

I think there are a lot that do, but I don’t understand what your point is?

[buoyant herald]

i also love blade
in all of 4 of my statics not one person who even likes it most tried it and either left it at 1370 or just deleted it there is no one size fits all

scouter is gonna be a big hit as any new class that comes out

doesnt have to be op for ppl to play it

[radiant flame]

Yep, and there’s been a lot of hype about it as another cheap transformation class, and one that is ranged and tanky

[buoyant herald]

[shy yarrow]

with bt getting a change/buff zerk might creep even higher in pick rate

but tbh I never think about him as a transform class since mayhem exists

[buoyant herald]

didnt even know bt zerk transforms

[shy yarrow]

was just looking at the classes and his counts apparently, sorta makes sense since he gets dark/bloody rush

[buoyant herald]

no no 😄
di sh and some engraving scouter they fully transform
get new skills
so it only needs 2 gems
like 3 or 4 tripods
thats why they call them cheap

bt zerk is closer to surge bladae igniter some fighter does that too its not transform 😄

[timber venture]

can i mail stuff to a cross server friend now?

[buoyant herald]

no

[crystal pecan]

Will we get new chaos dungeon levels with clown/this update?

[cloud pendant]

Hey guys. I’ve saved my lv 4 tripods in the inventory. Do I need to lock them to not lose the tripod when the new system is out?

[boreal cosmos]

what would you guys consider a "high roster"? 120+?

[buoyant herald]

150+

[pliant pivot]

no, locking it is just so you don’t accidentally rewrite it

[cloud pendant]

Cheers

[buoyant herald]

no new chaos + guardian with brel

[crystal pecan]

ok, thanks

[cloud pendant]

So what ilvl is Brel required?

[buoyant herald]

1490 g1 -2 1500 g3-4 1520 g4-6

[cloud pendant]

What there’s 6 gates?????

[boreal cosmos]

but you can get pieces from g1-4 and do g4-6 week one right?

instead of going for like crazy +23

[buoyant herald]

something like that yeah

[boreal cosmos]

but no fucking way i'll mange to do all 6 on week one lmao

first let me get to 1500 kekw

[buoyant herald]

yeah thats why no rush just stop at 1500 / 1505

almost done with last pitty at 80%

[boreal cosmos]

kekw

[cloud pendant]

guys. Does clown normal and the easier version have the same mech?

[pliant pivot]

you need 1520 for g6

[boreal cosmos]

u mean the trial?

[pliant pivot]

there is no easier version

[cloud pendant]

Ya trial I guess

[buoyant herald]

there is

[pliant pivot]

trial doesnt count

[buoyant herald]

it doesnt drop shit just tickets

[boreal cosmos]

theres a trial you unlock at 1370 i think or 1415

[cloud pendant]

So no point doing them?

[pliant pivot]

pretty sure it’s 1385

[buoyant herald]

1385 XD

[boreal cosmos]

weekly entrance no rewards afaik

[buoyant herald]

not really

[boreal cosmos]

1370 = 1385 kekw

[pliant pivot]

legendary books

[boreal cosmos]

practice for the real deal, if you are not 1475 by tomorrow.

[buoyant herald]

for thursday you mean
its gonna be 24+h maint

[silver rain]

rehearsal has some mech removed think of it as normal legion raid while normal kakul is actually hard legion raid

[boreal cosmos]

yep, wanted to say that but I try to deny that i wont play LOA tomorrow :)

more to deny that I won't be ready for clown week one xD

[flat dagger]

Is it true that all of EUC will have 16h+ maintenance despite your specific server not merging?

[exotic egret]

yes, they said region that affected with merge

[silver rain]

yes they said "up to 16h"

[flat dagger]

No Lost Ark day then

[pliant pivot]

euc has merges dont they

[buoyant herald]

we all know that the up to is just pure copium
its at least 16

[silver rain]

[cloud pendant]

Does NAW have merge?

[buoyant herald]

no

[boreal cosmos]

I believe it would be around 20-24h downtime

[pliant pivot]

nope both na regions have none

[buoyant herald]

only sa euc and euw

[cloud pendant]

So tomorrow only machinist release?

[flat dagger]

Yea, so a whole day skipped.

[buoyant herald]

and clown raid

[boreal cosmos]

welp, most likeley we would recieve compensation rewards or something like that

[pliant pivot]

and tripod and balance changes

[exotic egret]

[buoyant herald]

no tripod and probably no balance where are you getting that

[pliant pivot]

im coping

[buoyant herald]

they literally said no

[crisp turtle]

feels more like delusion than cope XD

[cloud pendant]

Are they going to release any event that helps build char ?

[crisp turtle]

technically, theres been no official response

[buoyant herald]

yeah they said so

[cloud pendant]

I saw somewhere there will be something similar to the hyper express

[velvet pebble]

I just opened Lost Ark in like 10 days and suddenly it's taking 100% of my gpu for some reason and having some real fps drops??

[buoyant herald]

well if a cm says "not for a while" when asked about that i'd take that as official

[pliant pivot]

powerpass? nope not with scouter

[crisp turtle]

like when the cm said no honing buffs?

[cloud pendant]

Not power pass. But the express event where there’s honing mats etc

[buoyant herald]

patch notes should be dropping soon so we'll see

[exotic egret]

so far no specific info on what we'll get, so yeah patch note is the only way to know for now

[buoyant herald]

well clown scouter and some mat event are 100%
other than that ye no info

[cloud pendant]

i need the mat event. Need to push

[buoyant herald]

🙂 everyone does

[cloud pendant]

I think this mat event is to help pushing to 1415?

[buoyant herald]

i just hope its just mats in boxes or vendor

[crisp turtle]

no mats pls, rather have cards

[buoyant herald]

kek no way its gonna be to help fresh scouters

[exotic egret]

1415 global buff

[buoyant herald]

could be but thats not an event

[crisp turtle]

give me the mokoko event again, but instead of gold. make it rain cards

[cloud pendant]

What’s 1415 global buff?

[polar shard]

Honing buff to get 1415

[buoyant herald]

like the one we got for 1370
makes its considerably cheaper with higher %'s

[cloud pendant]

Already have right?

[buoyant herald]

we have stronghold buff to 1415

[crisp turtle]

no we have global 1370
and stronghold 1415

[cloud pendant]

I thought when main gets to 1460 will have buff from 1370 to 1415?

[pliant pivot]

give me relic books for honing

[cloud pendant]

What’s the difference?

[buoyant herald]

ye but its smol
the global ones are a lot bigger

[radiant flame]

Stronghold is player specific and requires research

[crisp turtle]

one is global... so it affects every character all the time

one is unlocked only when your main gets to 1460 and does the stronghold research to help your alts.

[cloud pendant]

I don’t understand what it means player specific

Ohh I think I understand

[crisp turtle]

good, cos idk how else to explain it 😂

[cloud pendant]

For example T1 and T2 is global buff?

[radiant flame]

Yes

[crisp turtle]

t1 t2 and up to 1370 is global buff

[cloud pendant]

Ok!

[radiant flame]

And there are also stronghold buffs there, but obviously they don’t matter much for t1/t2, but there is an additive buff for 1302 to 1370

[cloud pendant]

Do we know roughly when 1415 global buff coming out?

[crisp turtle]

a brand new player benefits from the global buff, as its always active.
a new player won't benefit from the stronghold buff until one of their characters reaches the gearscore breakpoint to unlock the research

[radiant flame]

No. I don’t expect it soon. Maybe when brelshaza hits as a very rough guess, because that is the start of a soft reset of gear

[crisp turtle]

Kr got it just before Brel i think.

RU and JP got it around clown release, either just before or just after

[exotic egret]

other region got them on Clown release, so people assuming we will get the same, but as long we dont get patch yet, we cant be sure

[buoyant herald]

nah should be around clown

[radiant flame]

Honing to 1415 is not expensive right not anyway

Books are dirt cheap so it’s affordable even without buff

[buoyant herald]

most dedicated players dont even need it anymore anyway

[radiant flame]

Yeah

[buoyant herald]

unless new char

[crisp turtle]

honing an alt* to 1415 is not expensive.

doing it on a brand new char isnt so easy.
the gold income from 1300-1415 is miserable for a new player

[buoyant herald]

ye

[radiant flame]

No I think even on a new character, nowhere near as bad as some of us had it before. When gold books were 1-2k

Leaps were 70-90

[buoyant herald]

1 week worh of gold and mats is enough to 1415 a char from 0 for someone with a decent roster
even more if you get lucky with hones

[radiant flame]

Guardians 8-10, destruction 13-16

[cloud pendant]

What do you mean by soft reset of gear?

[buoyant herald]

next tier of gear with higher gs
uses new mats

[radiant flame]

Prices are way down, and you get almost free Argos busses

Some of us had to just do p1/p2 Argos for weeks lol

[crisp turtle]

you're arguing against yourself...
we could sell leaps for 70g each.
new players sell for half that. thats half their income just gone.
leg jewllery from argos sold for actual prices, not 100g

[cloud pendant]

I see. Roughly what’s the cost difference if there’s 1415 global buff compared to none?

[crisp turtle]

im not talking about 1st week t3 players. ofc its gonna be expensive then.

im talking about the majority

[radiant flame]

I’m not disputing that people could make money too, but if you wanted to push it was very tough. For someone wanting to push to 1415 it is not expensive right now

[buoyant herald]

dont remember think 20% price cut and 10 or 20% higher enh odds with lower levels honing 2 levels instead of 1 per success maybe its different for 1415 buff not sure

[buoyant herald]

for new players with 1 or 2 chars its still really rough

[crisp turtle]

1400-1415 right now. doing the cheese. so 4pc at +12, 2pc to +17.
costs 11k in raw gold, at average honing.

11k raw gold.

how is a new player getting that in any reasonable amount of time.

[radiant flame]

Anyway, o/t. I accept it’s more difficult for new players than for alts just objectively. But I don’t think it’s horrible

[radiant flame]

11k is like 2 weeks of Argos p3 and oreha, plus some help from a couple of alts in t2/t3

Also you would obviously use books for the honing. Should bring costs down

[wintry mauve]

Do ppl buy honor shards when leveling alts? I always never have enough

[radiant flame]

Speed levelling, yes you will need some

[wintry mauve]

Makes sense thanks

[radiant flame]

Because there aren’t a lot of sources

[wintry mauve]

Ye been playing everyday on sh alt and still not enough for 1430 so sad

[radiant flame]

People tend to save bags/chests from chaos gate or daily rewards

[buoyant herald]

saving all shard pouches for reaper relaease for months now

[radiant flame]

Use the ones from chaos line, sailing, and guild if you haven’t already

[wintry mauve]

O man I completely forgot about sailing

[radiant flame]

You can also do shard dailies

[wintry mauve]

Are those worth now? Been just doing leapstones for so long

[radiant flame]

I think since shard prices have rocketed, some people do those

[flat dagger]

In terms of item value, shards are better to do if you'd buy them.

[wintry mauve]

Shards are only gonna go up right

[radiant flame]

Shards gate you at high ilvl honing too

Mmm it will be pricey but won’t go much higher imo

The other mats will shoot up once Brel hits

Because on soft reset shards don’t change, but everything else does

[wintry mauve]

Gotcha thanks for the tips

[radiant flame]

Well, don’t take my word as gospel. Just what I think

[wintry mauve]

Makes sense tho cant see what’s wrong

[radiant flame]

But yeah, just think about what your characters lack when doing dailies

Btw I think runaway island has 2 decent shard dailies

For bifrosting efficiency

[wintry mauve]

Ye I’ll have to start looking at good unas for those

[radiant flame]

But they will take longer than 3 leapstones dailies for sure

I have limited time so will probably still be doing leaps on my mains

[wintry mauve]

Ye true I’ll see how much longer as long as it ain’t like 5 min should be fine

[glossy swallow]

I remember i've heard something about tripod changes.

First: how long we have till it?
second: If i have multiple characters with the same class, do i need to prepare everyone of them, or single is enough?

[signal flame]

hi y'all! i was wonder ing if anybody knew how many more hours until mechanist would be released?

[buoyant herald]

around 20 for na around 32 for eu and sa

[signal flame]

❤️ THANKS!

[glossy swallow]

So i just have to pray for it to not be tomorrow?

[hoary mist]

I can't put some of my teir 1-2 gems in roster storage for my alt. Why

It let me put some in

[thin token]

they will give us a heads up before they release the tripod update. Its not gonna be 2morrow

[barren path]

What to do with old novice tools for foraging and stuff? I can't dismantle them

[inner wing]

Throw away, or sell it for silver (if it's sellable)

[inner wing]

Screenshot?

As there's no T1 gems, you may be referring to T1 ability stones

[fair mantle]

It isn't tomorrow

But the sooner you get your library done the better

[glossy swallow]

I mean my main is support, i have 3 other supports in roster, and dps alts aren't the ones i'm focussing on ( playing dps in my opinion is rat race where people won't want you if you are just above mediocre), so not like i need those tripods,

But still better to have than to not have

[sturdy lichen]

So the maintenance starts at night for eu and lasts 16hours?

[urban topaz]

Dunno

They didn't give us any details 🙂

[low trail]

9am

probably as usual

maybe they'll surprise us and start it earlier

[coarse mist]

Any new updates about the following patch tmr

[low trail]

nope

[marsh plank]

saw someone couldnt enter Argos, the reason given was "Penalty", does anyone know what that means? it's not "entry count exceeded

[olive saddle]

I left off at part 3 valkyas when I boot it up again I will start from that gate? Thanks

[low trail]

penalty means they left another run early and therefore get a matchmaking penalty

[winter garden]

wait my buddy finished punika, but didn't get the powerpass

[low trail]

if you did gate 1 and 2 you can continue with gate 3 yes

[low trail]

he needs to do the purple quest

[buoyant herald]

have to do purple quests in punika to unlock it

[winter garden]

thanks

[marsh plank]

ty

[olive saddle]

So next time I boot it up it’s start FROM gate 3

[thin token]

yes

[thin token]

notes out

https://www.playlostark.com/en-us/news/articles/rage-with-the-machinist-release-notes

[snow wadi]

That's not another powerpass, right? They're just explaining the old one?

[radiant flame]

No it’s a new one, as far as I can make out

New expiry. Also new express event

[crisp turtle]

looks like a new one

[snow wadi]

Now that's interesting

[silver rain]

so they take back their word and give out pp huh

[thin token]

lol seems like

[crisp turtle]

"The Growth Support Effect has increased from 1370 to 1415 to help new players reach their friends in the T3end-game."

this is global honing buff right?

[radiant flame]

Yep sounds like it

So it’s another 20%, I think?

[crisp turtle]

surprised its a small note, not a bigger deal

[radiant flame]

That’s what we got for 1302 right?

[silver rain]

yes its the 1340ilvl honing buff

[snow wadi]

No pheons tho?

Not even 9 pheons per week anymore

I'll so damn enjoy running deska with 2x3 because im a poor fuck

[silver rain]

prolly they see it as just an increase range from 1302 one we have so it's just there like that

[snow wadi]

best alt parking spot still 1445 then?
And then slowly upgrade em to 1475?

[crisp turtle]

1430 is the best, gold value wise.
1445 only if you wanna use relic sets

[radiant flame]

I think it just depends entirely on what you want to/have time to do with your alts. The higher they are they can do more rewarding content. Even stuff like 1475 chaos dungeon will give you more stuff over time

The biggest decision is 1475 because you will lose Argos gold

[snow wadi]

Im far from being 1445 with all alts
but I gotta plan accordingly

[viral temple]

Honestly, I'm getting alts to 1415, relic stuff is more valuable than legendary for things like ability stones so you get rewarded so much more heavily if you get a good stone, especially with tripod pieces. Going from 1415 to 1460 is painful.

[radiant flame]

I think getting to 1445 is particularly nice because you get better chaos dungeon loot for tripods and you also accumulate fused leaps for free hones

[snow wadi]

but 1430 is just as cheap as going to 1415 if you still do the cheese method, no?

[crisp turtle]

1415 isnt bad stopping point, for chaos and deska, you don't gain much more raw gold as valtan only gives slight more than oreha.
1430 you get vykas, which makes it much more gold value.
1445 is really bad gold wise, as you make barely more from HM valtan, but most people do it because relic sets are fun.

[amber spruce]

i used express event on my main(DB) and now she's1380 while my alts are 1308/1310
should i use this new one on my alt or main again?

[radiant flame]

You should use on main to boost it faster

[buoyant herald]

its onlly 1370 - 1415 so use it on main for sure

[radiant flame]

You don’t even have stronghold research from 1385 yet

[crisp turtle]

100% on your main. if its like the other express, you'll get a shitton of bound mats after you've finished it, which will help boost your main even mre

[radiant flame]

I disagree that 1445 is “bad” - you should be boosting your alts higher. The fused leaps are important. And the most important thing is actually getting chaos stones from doing HM Valtan

Parking at 1430 is good for gold, but very little else

Your alts do need to get geared at some point and getting chaos stones slowly is important for that

[buoyant herald]

1430 sucks its so close to 1445 you might aswell just push it relic sets make the world of diffference playing the class

[crisp turtle]

yeah, i phrased it wrong i guess.
pushing characters is never bad.

imeant more in terms of, you'd get more value getting another alt to 1430, rather than pushing a 1430 to 1445

[radiant flame]

Yeah, if value is all you care about. I think I wanted to start getting relic sets so some of my alts went to 1445 first

[amber spruce]

ok so new express on main and push alt as far as possible

[radiant flame]

I think you can sit on 1445 forever if you wanted, and just slowly push with fused even

[thin token]

i usually wait until i can make full set of relic or atleast 4pc before pushing to 1445 because most of the sets u need wings and even at 1445 u still have to farm normal vykas lol soooo

[radiant flame]

Push main as far as possible

[crisp turtle]

main to atleast 1385 for the strongholdbefore pushing alts to 1370.
main to atleast 1430 before pushing alts to 1415+ you won't get the stronghold buff til 1460, but with this global buff it won't actually be too bad pushing alts to 1415 before then

[amber spruce]

does express give gold?(i forgot)

[radiant flame]

You want to get to 1445 asap

And then 1460 for stronghold buff

[amber spruce]

main is already at 1380...and what's this 1385 stronghold buff?

[wintry night]

If I delete my 1340 sorc, can I reuse the name for my next character?

[crisp turtle]

at 1385 you'll unlock a stronghold research, that will increase honing odds and decrease honing cost for other characters up to 1370

[radiant flame]

It’s the stronghold research for honing 1302 to 1370

[crisp turtle]

i think character names are locked for 30 (maybe more) days

[wintry night]

Ah that is sad

[crisp turtle]

not 100% sure on this, lemme check

[radiant flame]

You should push to 1385 and researching before pushing alts

[amber spruce]

ok then i'll stop pushing my alts untill i get to 1385 and the push everyone(main is priority ofc)

[winter garden]

dood, this is so tragic, my buddy is gonna miss the express, because he has no rest bonus to do t3 chaos

[loud dagger]

Is extra char slot only purchasable for royal crystals? If i already have 6 char cant use the next punika pass right?

[quartz grotto]

can you learn the punika powerpass and save it to use on a class coming later?

[silver rain]

yes unless you purchase more

[ebon perch]

does the rehersal mode give gold and mats too?

[pliant pivot]

no gold just condoms which you can use to buy mats

[ebon perch]

ah ty, i saw the rewards mentioned in the notes and got confused

[polar shard]

Based off of the patch notes, I can do rehearsal once on as many characters that are able to until I complete the main raid right?

[ebon perch]

also patch notes didnt mention argos gold going away is that a given or ambiguous at this time?

[pliant pivot]

you can do trial as much as you want afaik you just need to be 1385

[ebon perch]

1485

[silver rain]

ambiguous they could have forgotten about it

[pliant pivot]

1385

[ebon perch]

reharsal is 1385?

[pliant pivot]

yeah

[ebon perch]

ah oki mb

yeah i thought it was kinda wierd that +10 ilvl just to practice lmao

i misread

is 1482.5 with lvl 5(1 lvl 7) gems and 5x3 enough to pug clown or no?

[thin token]

shore

I personally think week 1 i dont think ppl will be as strict on requirements cuz everyone still new to raid so yea should be good

[ebon perch]

ty

[hardy kelp]

is there a way if im for exmple in rohendel to tp to vern?

[ebon perch]

use boats at the port,bifrost or the return song

[pliant pivot]

go to the port pay for a cruise ship

[hardy kelp]

wow thats so good

[thin token]

theres no female variant of machnist right? just a d00d class?

[pliant pivot]

yep, no female variant

[thin token]

dam lol, im feeling inclined to having to make one more char since we are getting another power pass + express event so idk who i would make

[pliant pivot]

theres only 2 classes that are both genders

kr is getting female zerker soon

[simple knoll]

If i have a char at 1415 (alt) BUT i dont do South vern
Can i still do oreha?

[thin token]

no, once u hit item level thats it ur locked out of gold from there

[polar shard]

Wait are we getting ANOTHER punika pass? I guess they don’t tell Roxx everything since she told us its confirmed that we not getting any

[loud dagger]

I have a question. For the server merge. So if i have 6 char on sceptrum and 1 on sorius with the merge will i get 7 char? Or 1 gets deleted?

[pliant pivot]

yes but u cant earn gold

[sick thunder]

well roxx knows about as much as the average forum mod

[pliant pivot]

afaik u choose 6 to keep not entirely sure how it works though since this is the first time they’ve done it

[sick thunder]

so much for being a community manager

[simple knoll]

Mmmm so even if i can do lvl have 4 bard at 1415 its better to not doing them then, since the PF its a fiesta i cant manage to lose time all the week trying to do 4 Valtan sad :'c

[loud dagger]

I see. I thought i could just create 6 other char in another merge server so i can get 6 free char slots

[sick thunder]

hm no they should be transfered to univesal character storage

or whatever they call it

[ebon perch]

how do the extra char slots work? do i get more chars on the same server or on a diff one?

[thin token]

btw i dont think they mentioned removal of argos gold? would we stll earn gold from 1475+ from agos?

[ebon perch]

that is still ambiguous so no one knows tbh

[pure nacelle]

For the new punika powerpass, they said its a limited event item that “expires on october 26”

Does that mean it will completely disappear from the character select screen on oct 26, or do you simply have to consume the item in your inventory before oct 26?

[loud dagger]

This universal character slot storage kinda confusing

[buoyant herald]

it gets deleted from everywhere like any other pass we had before

[elder anchor]

Are we getting a 1370 powerpass with scouter?

[buoyant herald]

we are getting a 1302 powerpass and a 1370- 1415 express

[crisp turtle]

when you start the game up, you won't have any characters to select from, and you'll have only the 6 free roster slots.
all your characters, from both servers, will be available to selected from a storage page.
Any roster extension slots that you'd bought, on either server will be refunded as tickets that you can use again.
You can transfer characters into and out of the character storage at will, unless they have earned gold during that week. In which case they're locked into your roster for the week. And can be taken out of your main roster after the weekly reset.

[ebon river]

so the new express is from 1370 to 1415 or 1303 to 1415 ?

[rigid plank]

1302 to 1415

[snow wadi]

you can designate a character between item Level 1302 and 1415 on your roster to participate in the Special Event Missions, where they’ll earn honing materials to quickly level up to 1415

[loud dagger]

Thank you sir

[sly iron]

anyone willing to help me kill this field boss: proxima on na east una I cant kill it in the time limit? also is this the wrong chat to be asking this in and if so what channel should I be using?

[trail hawk]

bit down bellow should be nae chat....

[rigid plank]

Your region category #na-east-region-chat

[snow wadi]

needs region tag tho

[rain meadow]

#na-east-region-chat me thinks

[sly iron]

okay 👍

it just keeps out healing my damage and is so annoying

is there any mechanic or something I need to know that would make it easier?

[snow wadi]

kill the tentacles once they spawn

[sly iron]

alright so im just bad lol

[crisp turtle]

dont hit it when its shield is up, you're the one healing it

[snow wadi]

oh and laugh at people telling you it heals when you attack it with a shield

[sly iron]

wait really? even if im hitting the tentacles while the sheilds up?

[crisp turtle]

you sure?

[snow wadi]

it just heals, no matter if u hit it or not
it will stop healing once you destroy tentacles

[sly iron]

thats what I thought

[crisp turtle]

huh, TIL i guess

[stuck flame]

is rehearsal clown normalized ilvl?

[snow wadi]

the buff says something like "heals x in y seconds"

[dusky girder]

believe so

[barren path]

Is there anything important to know about stronghold? Or should I just try to upgrade everything?

[elder anchor]

Are south vern excavation maps better than the punika ones?

[pliant pivot]

1385

[pliant pivot]

they are identical afaik

[glossy swallow]

can i do anything to summon maneth or do something affecting his spawn?
or is he spawning at certain hours?

[silver rain]

2 hours after death

cant really do anything else than camping if you didnt find him

[barren path]

As a new player, should I join random guild? All the guilds in the recruitment channels have high lvl requirements

[silver rain]

imo i'd try to find at least an actual active guild. joining random and if its ended up dead might hurt you in a long run cuz the penalty

once or twice isnt that much but after that 💀

[maiden locust]

If i stucked on my main roster, can i start a new roster on different server, but with similar region? Does it against rules? Or gold limit will effect on my new roster too?

[glossy swallow]

Wdym stucked on main roster

[maiden locust]

You can, but some things are limited cross server

[granite hull]

Don't join random guilds because there's a chance they might be dead. Try to look for an active guild that suits your needs. I avoid those huge guilds like the plague, tbh, but that's just me

[maiden locust]

Maybe can i see a list somewhere about these limitations?

[thin token]

i just join random guilds in the beggining purely for guild shop only and then eventually at end game some1 reached out to me and i joined their active guild lol

[maiden locust]

as a new player you should start over on EUC

[outer mason]

"The Growth Support Effect has increased from 1370 to 1415 to help new players reach their friends in the T3 end-game."
Anyone has more info about this? Numbers and such

[silver rain]

20% success rate 60% mats reduced

[white sparrow]

• AFK kick removed
  means that we no longer can vote to kick afk people?

[rigid plank]

No, thats the AFK kick off the game, not the warn/kick from party

you can stay in game now all night and all day without the game automatically closing/kicking you off the game

[white sparrow]

oh so we can now afk as long as we want?

[rigid plank]

[white sparrow]

thats so cool

also there is a new power pass or no

[rigid plank]

Yes, punika powerpass to 1302

[toxic oar]

alright so does anyone know if the previous punika pass expires with the patch or not because it doesnt have an expiration date listed

[buoyant herald]

it does expire per devs words

[toxic oar]

so just an UI bug?

[buoyant herald]

not a bugg it never lister expiry date for other ones either

[glossy swallow]

this is another one, not this we have right now?

So we can make another character out of this?

[buoyant herald]

yes

[toxic oar]

nah it did list them

[glossy swallow]

and this is only for those who are paying for bonus slots, right?

[toxic oar]

the feiton pass from glaivier update definitely showed an expiration date

[white sparrow]

there is also a new express or only a punika pas

[pseudo atlas]

that one was bugged actually, to show the wrong time, then they fixed it and it said no expiration date even though it did expire

[toxic oar]

1415 express + pass

[crisp turtle]

both

[glossy swallow]

and probably THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION.

IF i do normal clown, i'll block pepega mode on roster for week,
and if i clear normal mode, i receive rehersal ( pepega) rewards too.
so pepega have rewards.

If i'll do pepega mode on alts, will i be able to do normal on main?

[crisp turtle]

yes

[glossy swallow]

So first alts, then main if i want full rewards on roster?

[crisp turtle]

doing normal will get you the full rewards, regardless of if you do rehearsal

[glossy swallow]

on one character

[white sparrow]

guys why they dont increase the amount of reward u can get in characters from 6 to like 8?

[glossy swallow]

Rehersal rewards are weekly per roster, or per character?

[pseudo atlas]

the way that's worded yes you want to do rehearsal on all alts first

[crisp turtle]

fairly sure the reheasal rewards are one time/roster.
you can do it multiple times, dont think you get rewards multiple times

might be wrong. but would be strange

[toxic oar]

because it would result in even more gold inflation

[rigid plank]

One time rewards per roster per week

[pliant pivot]

there used to be no limit in kr they added it to prevent/lessen the inflation

[simple knoll]

in avg how much time you need for make 4 valtan NM?

[buoyant herald]

to clear 4 valtan normals ? ( around 20-30 min per run + time to find a lobby anywhere from 5min to 1h)
or make 4 chars for valtan normal ? ( depends on your roster)

[pseudo atlas]

hope you ain't doing that today because that's gonna be a nightmare

[simple knoll]

4 valtan normals
find lobby should not be a problem the plan its 4 bard (dont like DPS)

but since it wasnt that smooth in the past with only one char, im try to make a plan for roster

[glossy swallow]

Valtan shouldn't take long, if your lobby have more than 10 iq and isn't pridefull bought title users, it'll take like 20 minutes or so?

[buoyant herald]

well yeah if you try to run it today its gonna be funny
can probably do them 20-30 min a pop but its gonna be bad today sicne its the last day of the week

[crisp turtle]

tuesdays are such a coin flip
i've had my cleanest runs on a tuesday.
i've also had my worst

[simple knoll]

the idea was in a month to have
bard 1475 main
Main alt bard at 1430
Atls 2x1415

[buoyant herald]

thats a good plan

[simple knoll]

(no no its not today) but if i need to lose all weeks tons of time to do valtan i rather do oreha

[ionic sparrow]

• Growth Support Effect (honing buff) extended from 1370 to 1415
  what does that mean? is that the stronghold buff?

[glossy swallow]

I have bard 1495 main
paladin 1460 alt main
paladin 1445
igniter and lc sharpshoot 1445
(deleted tomorrow) deathblade 1370 (gonna be bard or paladin)

[crisp turtle]

its the global honing buff, that is currently up to 1370, now goes up to 1415

[glossy swallow]

Support players have chill game after buying books.
specially if their are running spec bards

[crisp turtle]

4/6 support roster.
you're the true mm hero

[glossy swallow]

I just hate dps rat race and need for being much higher than average to even be considered for party

[simple knoll]

(all swift)

[glossy swallow]

My paladins run swift cuz there is no other way.
but my bard with 28% bonus damage burst window is just too cute to go swift

[simple knoll]

will be 6/8 when artist come
my only problem its im afraid a lot of how much time i can lose each week wipe on valtan when i could do oreha

[crisp turtle]

its really not that bad anymore for most content. vykas hm is a struggle for my alts that aren't 5x3 sometimes. but the valtan nm/hm and vykas nm are pretty saturated with alts nowadays, its not as bad as on release

[glossy swallow]

as dps you need to learn patterns, avoid getting cc'ed, and watch your hp, while maintaining max dps.
on support you just say "fck it, shield, para/push immunity, heal"

Also each time your igniter misses meteor due to any reason, you're about to ragequit

[crisp turtle]

oreha's can be worse to run if you're a support.
if your roster is full support, you can be super picky about what groups you join, you'll always find space. if a group looks rubbish after first pull, you can leave and join a 2nd immediately

[glossy swallow]

If they'll let you out

I had one run on sharpshooter where they holded paladin hostage for 4 runs

[crisp turtle]

if they don't let me out, i just afk
normally doesnt take more than 1 wipe before they kick me out

[simple knoll]

tbh in oreha in general i didnt have a bad time, and when i dont have time i can just do no bid
the question about leave its simple, i fell really bad enter on a party and leave them specially when i know they may wait a lot for find a supp

[crisp turtle]

i admire the mentality.
but sometimes, especially if you're pushed for time, you're just gonna have to tell em that you can't be dealing with people who don't know what they're doing. otherwise you're just gonna get yourself jailed in a lobby for hours

[glossy swallow]

running off topic,

What about oreha fusion material and brelshaza gear?

is there new one?
does it require oreha fish?
or it'll require people to start fishing/doing other stuff first day after release to upgrade stuff

[silver rain]

new fusion stone. crafting recipe using the same mats just more quantity

[simple knoll]

why life its a lot complicated, i want time to stop when im doing LA so i can have time to do all what i want

[tulip copper]

What is a guardian event vendor?

[silver rain]

same vendor as the 3 guardian event one

[simple knoll]

near the guardian even "flag" you should have a vendor where you spend the token gets from guardian event

[maiden locust]

What is the most populated server in EU central?

[crisp turtle]

the winter illusion one

[crisp turtle]

thirain kadan or zinnervale

[tulip copper]

How long is this been here????

[crisp turtle]

couple weeks
a month*

[tulip copper]

Bruh.. i came back to the game after this event launched and since it doesnt show up on dungeon screen i didnt know...

[silver rain]

couple weeks - a month since 24 august

[willow sorrel]

Was it a good choice investing in t2 leapstones?

They were at 11 per unit with avg day price of 20

And with scouter release idk?

[silver rain]

there'll be new pp giveout i doubt it will shot up in price

[crisp turtle]

scouter is coming with a powerpass, which noone expected. so most likely they'll go down in price

[willow sorrel]

Rip

Why are they so down in price yet already then?

Almost half the price

[crisp turtle]

i'd imagine they spiked because people were buying for scouter.
if you look back further, 11 was probably nearer the average

[willow sorrel]

They were like this

[crisp turtle]

thats the last 5 days, at the start of september they were average 11

[cunning loom]

What are some ez chaos dungeon class? Something like shadow hunter

[crisp turtle]

gunlancer and paladin with preemptive strike

[silver rain]

my pally only uses 4 skills

[crisp turtle]

my GL uses 1

[cunning loom]

Would u say gunslinger is a class for chaos dungeon?

[pseudo atlas]

if they make it to punika, yes

[crisp turtle]

everyone is getting one, doesn't have to be used for a scouter

[cunning loom]

From what i heard Anything else is 16 hours beside NA

[pseudo atlas]

have you tried reading #announcements ?

[rigid plank]

up to 16 hours for EUC, EUW, and SA, normal 4h for NAW and NAE

[crisp turtle]

if we get online at all tomorrow i'll be pleasantly surprised

[silver rain]

at least we're getting extra 2-week long login board

[pseudo atlas]

i expect maintenance extensions for all regions

[sturdy lichen]

Only 4hours on kadan then?

[pseudo atlas]

is kadan on a region with server merge?

[silver rain]

Kadan is on Euc 💀

[pliant pivot]

it says region if kadan is in eu or sa then it’s 16 hours

[white slate]

guys i cant turn this on to buy RC in game.

[tulip copper]

Is there any gold rewards in adv island? If we can see the same rewards

[jaunty token]

I want to get the Mech skin to save for reaper, but I heard that you can only buy the skin and not the weapon? IS that true?

[silver rain]

98% sure they won't update the weapon skin box for reaper they didn't do that with destroyer and arcanist for skins that released before the class

[maiden locust]

I just hit lvl50 on my first character. Im a decent way through Arthetine, do I complete it or go to North Vern now?

[jaunty token]

ohhh I see, so I should only buy the body skin then?

[buoyant herald]

might as well just complete it gonna need it for some horizontal content later on

[silver rain]

Yea only the body skin works since it's just base class not subclass specific

[maiden locust]

then go to North Vern after?

[buoyant herald]

ye

[rough hare]

"AFK kick has been removed." best patch ever...? so now we can afk chaos dung and boss ticket easily?

[jaunty token]

Thanks! do I buy it on an assassin class and leave it in my product inventory?

[silver rain]

If you have any other assassin class, you can have them open the skin and wear them while waiting for reaper release in the meantime. But if you don't, buy the chest on any char and put them on roster storage works. I don't recommend buying piece by piece cuz that would ended up more expensive than just buying the chest outright

[fair mantle]

That's warn kick not afk kick

[silver rain]

Some weapon skin cost like 7-8k while the weapon skin selection chest go for 5-6k and people still buying the weapon skin idk

[jaunty token]

Oh I thought it was bound to the character once you open it??

[silver rain]

Only Blue crystal skins are bound to the char. Or chaos dungeon skins

[jaunty token]

Ohhhh gotcha, thanks!

[proud marlin]

Hey all so, I ate the previous punika pass and it says no limit on the expiration date. Is that still true? I remember most people saying that it'll expire tomorrow

[maiden locust]

the free one expires tommorow

[proud marlin]

Because if there's no limit, I'm considering just waiting tomorrow to use the new event pass

[fair mantle]

You get another one tomorrow

[cunning loom]

Is there a chance that southvern kt release tmr?

[pseudo atlas]

what happens when you try

[sturdy lichen]

we are getting a powerpass after all? they said one powerpass every 2 classes

[maiden locust]

we also get a express and honing buf

[ionic sparrow]

i was under the impression u get a power pass for every class release no?

[sturdy lichen]

no, they said one powerpass every 2 class releases, but we're getting one right after arcanist for some reason

[ionic sparrow]

i wont complain about it

[sturdy lichen]

right

[hybrid dew]

Hi everybody.
Can somebody tell me: Is there a main gathering hub for players? Like... im at 1320 right now and in open world i cant find a single player with a proper name. Its all bots. I cant find a single person to do world bosses with.
Im in EU Central so there should be plenty, right? Hence my suspicion that everybody is standing in a city i cant visit yet due to missing GS

[pseudo atlas]

barely anyone does world bosses that aren't moake (1415) and thunderwings (1460), people sit around in feiton or north vern mostly

[sturdy lichen]

talking about bots, theyre bringing the captcha back in tomorrows update?

[white slate]

i literally cannot tick it.

[hybrid dew]

Makes me wish i hadnt dropped the game for a few months. Would have been nice to see the game in its bloom and actually live through the content

[pseudo atlas]

do you have this off in the general steam settings

[white slate]

ye just found it. but no windows appears when i press to buy. im restarting the game

[pseudo atlas]

yeah you probably have to reboot the game

[glossy meteor]

For tomorrow is it better to use express honing on my 1370 or 1393 ?

[stark siren]

tomorrow patch still have 1475 argos gold? wtf

[pseudo atlas]

what do you mean?

[stark siren]

cm said there's no news on the 1475 gold nerf

[maiden locust]

they said it wont be nerfed

[stark siren]

so 1475 chars get gold from argos still

[pseudo atlas]

oh, interesting

[stark siren]

what is this inflation

[maiden locust]

inflation is gonna go through the roof with everyone having full 1415+ roster

[stark siren]

man, i should have honed to 1475 eralier

was camping at 1472

[maiden locust]

why

[stark siren]

was gonna get 1 last argos gold

[pseudo atlas]

same

well i also have no real hope of completing clown at release but that's another issue

[stark siren]

whenever ags eat their words someone get screwed over

[maiden locust]

you have a static for clown?

[stark siren]

i bought pass cos i thoguth scouter has no pass, look at it now

yea

[pseudo atlas]

oh shit rip scouter mains that bought a pass on discount hoping it will work on scouter

[stark siren]

yea tahts so dumb

feels like fraud

100% would not have bought a pass

[pseudo atlas]

i can't find this cm post about argos gold, can you link it? i only see one where roxx says they don't know

[stark siren]

someone shared dis

[pseudo atlas]

so we have no idea

[stark siren]

the only thing confirmed is that its not in the patch notes

[pseudo atlas]

sounds like roxx is on it though so we'll find out later hopefully

[eager egret]

Negative movement level 1 is only give me 2% reduce movement speed? or its more than that

i dont know math for it

[stark siren]

mouse over it, it tells you

[eager egret]

yeah it says 2% but its actually 2% flat or its like multiply or something?

[pseudo atlas]

it's just 2% subtracted

[eager egret]

lets say i have 130% movement speed. it will reduce by 2% or more

shouldnt be big deal for scouter then

[pseudo atlas]

there's a big details window in character sheet that you can look at for this info

[eager egret]

yeah i just dont have any movement speed negative kek

[silver rain]

you can have that in trixion

[eager egret]

oh i forgot about that lol, thanks

[steady notch]

do you guys know if the honing buff to 1415 is similar to what we have in 1300 1370 ?
no gold cost
100% chance lvl 1 to 15 (so argos set )
-20% shard cost
?

[rigid plank]

yes similar

[silver rain]

it can be if you run RC

[steady notch]

thats damn huge, im finally free from yoho

[eager egret]

transform give 30% so i ll be at 130%

yearn give 10% soon so yeah u are right

[pseudo atlas]

uh pretty sure we don't have 100% chance to hone in t3 for up to +15 yet and we never will, also it still costs gold

[maiden locust]

the bottom orange part

[steady notch]

it doenst say 1370 to 1415

[silver rain]

1340 is Argos gear

[steady notch]

ahhh ok ty

[vale elm]

Does South Vern have a statue that you can Song of Return to?

[maiden locust]

no

[vale elm]

alr ty

[pseudo atlas]

just return to north vern and triport wherever you want to go

[vale elm]

[solid hollow]

Guys does the guild get a bonus rewards from people achieving 100% contribution?

[barren path]

Should I use these? I'm playing sors

[vale elm]

wish I read that 5s before I set a new bifrost location

[steady notch]

they are bound to roster, you cant sell so use them on whatever char you play

[vale elm]

^ use them on engravings that are fairly expensive, so check the market beforehand

[wide lichen]

guys when brel comes will there be another tier for stones?
or are we keeping our relic stones?

[silver rain]

no the guild actually loses cuz they now have to payout to more people

[rigid plank]

yes new soft tier of mats (sorry i misread )

[maiden locust]

we keep relic till elgacia and you upgrade your current stone

[wide lichen]

[maiden locust]

you need to be 1580 to fully upgrade your stone and it might take months to get all the mats

you only get more hp

[wide lichen]

i see so its worth to get a good stone right now?

[maiden locust]

you can get it anytime

[pseudo atlas]

depends on if you need it right now, prices can change and bc rates to get pheons are super volatile

[glossy meteor]

I just spent like 200k honing shards and 10k guardian stones and 7k destruction stones to push my alt to 1393 today lol why is news so late

[maiden locust]

you get the mats back from upgrading if you dismantle a ancient stone

[pseudo atlas]

they did the same for the first global honing buff that made t1 and t2 100% success rate and basically halved all mat costs up to 1370

[glossy meteor]

@pseudo atlas yeah why is that they inform so late

[inland mist]

What's the official stance on macros being used from like my keyboard software? Don't wanna use it if it's not allowed

[wide lichen]

ty

[wide lichen]

ty

[glossy meteor]

A week early is when they should i form . We use all mats then buff comes . So stupid what even is the use

[maiden locust]

np

[pseudo atlas]

ask them

[copper zealot]

Help, I currently have 1 punika powerpass from previous event. Will this powerpass disappear after the update? or do I receive another punika powerpass?

[maiden locust]

we get another free one

[glossy meteor]

@copper zealot it will

Highly suggest using it

[copper zealot]

I mean should I using it before the maintenance?

[maiden locust]

if its the free one yes

[glossy meteor]

Is the powerpass from last event ?

[copper zealot]

yeah

[pseudo atlas]

they said it will expire if you don't use it, you either use it now or you gamble that they're lying or don't know what they're talking about

[glossy meteor]

If it is then it will dissapear

[copper zealot]

from the arcana event I suppose

[glossy meteor]

Just use it on something

[polar shard]

That one will disappear unless you use it before update then you’ll receive another one after patch

Would not risk losing it as its basically $50 usd

[copper zealot]

alright, thanks guys...

[white sparrow]

guys vykas is a male?

[blazing plover]

So how did the 1415 express event work in Korea? Do I still need to buy/trade argos in tomorrows patch or event gonna give legendary gear?

[maiden locust]

i just used it , bt its not as good as other powerpass , u have to pay crystal to "actually" powerpass

[rigid plank]

translation mishap

[maiden locust]

in KR you can buy argos gear from the market

[sly iron]

the new express pass is going to be from 1302-1415. my current main is my glaivier which is 1370 should I use the new express pass on my main to get it to 1415 or would it not be a good idea since its already 1370 and use it on different character?

[silver rain]

you hone up/getting gears yourself. the only thing that gives you gear is South Vern pp

[maiden locust]

its more effecient to use it on a new character

we get the global honing buff to 1415

[sly iron]

that is true

is there a way to be able to test out a class like lets say deathblade for example and similar to how hell valtan works where you can make a build and see how you like the class with a good build like in trixion or something or is that not a thing?

[fading tinsel]

after i just hone 2 alts from 1370-1445 a week ago and now they released this honing buff..

[pseudo atlas]

there is no way to do this

[maiden locust]

yup

[silver rain]

same tho i only went as far as 3x1415 i did 17x2 12x4 tho so am not that fucked

[pseudo atlas]

the testing ground in the intro is garbage and the only way to get trixion access for the real training ground is to get through vern i think

[sly iron]

does that training let you do that?

[pseudo atlas]

yeah but getting through vern is like 8 hours of story or spending gold and a kt

[fading tinsel]

and i leveled my other 1415 to 1430 last night by going from 12-15 as well. the timing they announced always great, make me wanna kill myself

[sly iron]

🤔 what should my 5th character be that I use my punika pass on tomorrow?

anyone have recommendations I currently have a glaivier, paladin, db, and scrapper

[fading tinsel]

i only have 1 character left to build, not sure what to add to current roster: x3 paly, scrapper, and striker.. anything fun and different to what i have? suggestion?

[fading tinsel]

maybe we should do a gunner

[sly iron]

I was thinking of making a gunslinger

[fading tinsel]

i used to play one 6 months ago but i stopped coz it consumes too much brain cell to play, but as a 5-6th i think should be easier less die

[thin token]

I just play all the female class, so for me my last option is war-dancer so that is where my pass will go to

[fading tinsel]

the express event is from t3 only or for a fresh account

[sly iron]

its going to be from 1302-1415

but we also get a punika pass that boosts you to 1302

[thin token]

express event is from 1302-1415

[fading tinsel]

so create new char, use punika pass, then start honing from 1302 with global buff and express event’s mats?

[thin token]

yep

[regal swallow]

does activating hypersync give crit for machinist?

[tough fractal]

Does hallucination set give +20% crit rate or just +5 with reality?

[sage fern]

it gives 15 from 4p and 5 from reality

so yes 20%

[tough fractal]

ok then the buff tooltip is bugged

[fading tinsel]

I have 4 acc need to do South Vern.. haizz so lazy. how long does it take for MSQ?

[native salmon]

that's not a bug tho, you get an extra 5 crit on top of the 15 crit

[real basalt]

Not sure if this has been asked yet but with the Punika powerpass, if we've done the quests before the patch tomorrow, we get another Punika powerpass after the patch? Does the one that I got expire tomorrow even if I don't use it or no? Thanks!

[native salmon]

around 2hrs i think

[native salmon]

the one you have now expires tmrw

it even says: expires 9/28

[tough fractal]

I know, but it shows the actual value for the dmg (12 from 2p + 13 from 6p reality) but it doesn't show the proper value for crit rate, that's what I mean

[real basalt]

Okay, thank you. So, we're getting another one tomorrow? Just tryin to clarify for myself haha

[native salmon]

[fading tinsel]

thanks!

[real basalt]

Tyty

[fading tinsel]

so every 2 months we gonna have one 1415 alt. im looking forward to 6 more lopang alts next year

[undone phoenix]

Freeeeeee

[humble relic]

@maiden locust u still can switch to euc my man

[maiden locust]

i dont want to do the lvl 50 grind again

[flint wolf]

for your 1430, if you cheesed 1415 with all 12 and 2x 17, do you just go for another 2 x17 armor pieces? or all 15 / weapon 15

i guess i could rephrase this as how bad is a 1430 alt with only a +12 weapon

[humble relic]

U can speed run it lol

It wouldn't even take total of 12 hours

It took me 7-8 hours

[maiden locust]

thats 8 hours too long

[humble relic]

Compared to my almost ex 600 hours it's nothing

[humble relic]

I was taking breaks in between

It's not even exhausting man

And u are gonna get 2 punika pass and 2 nvern

Just kt ur charecters after that

Ez pz

[maiden locust]

2 punika passes?

[humble relic]

Tes

U get one after completing punika and there is another free one #announcements

[maiden locust]

isnt it only 1 pass and the express

[humble relic]

2 after tonight's update

[maiden locust]

the curent free one goes away

[humble relic]

Expires on Oct 26

[tough fractal]

Ok it's certainly not a bug. The +15% from 4p is permanent, you don't need the buff to be active. Then you get the +5% from the buff

[humble relic]

You are telling me it's gonna take you more than 1 month to reach punika

[native salmon]

yep

[humble relic]

[native salmon]

the current free one expires tmrw

[humble relic]

What i asked someone he said it will expire on oct 26

[native salmon]

and reaching to t3 on a fresh account takes 8hrs for leveling, 20hrs for getting mats to get from t1-t3

[snow wadi]

the new one will expire on oct 26
the current one wasn't supposed to be for machinist, hence it expires

[native salmon]

that's the one coming tmrw

[maiden locust]

@humble relic i will switch to euc if you give me gold for honing

[native salmon]

also how do you guys like the ATS(AT scouter) turning into ASS(AS scouter)

[maiden locust]

what

[native salmon]

they changed the name from tech to skill

[fading tinsel]

decided?

[native salmon]

so it's ASS now

[humble relic]

i myself still need gold lol

[snow wadi]

gold is the only thing that keeps you from switching?
not horizontal stuff?

[humble relic]

i will give you gold after i reach relic accessories if u want to

[maiden locust]

i dont do horizontal stuff

[humble relic]

a bro always helps a bro out

[maiden locust]

and never will

[snow wadi]

an easy decision then

[native salmon]

what about omnium stars/giants hearts for wealth rune?

[maiden locust]

whats that?

[humble relic]

LOL

legendary runes

[native salmon]

it gives increases the amount of gauge you get from that skill

[maiden locust]

who cares about that

[humble relic]

u get c+j from s,vern merchant

wealth from omium start 5

giants heart skill potions

giant's heart by far the easiest , omnium star is also easy but rng is ass

[native salmon]

any class that requires you to build gauge (blade, bard, scouter, demonic sh, etc)

[maiden locust]

i can play without it

[humble relic]

u will never get close to eeven 75% of ur character potionial

[maiden locust]

ok

[humble relic]

like lmao dude the only reason that was holding me back was horizontal stuff

[maiden locust]

dont care tbh

[humble relic]

no need to be mad my man

[maiden locust]

im not mad

[native salmon]

ye, the runes just makes it more comfortable, also the giant's hearts one is ez, you only need 5 to get it and you can buy like 3 of them

[humble relic]

3 are buyable and 2 from tower ez pz

[native salmon]

the 380 spider field boss also has a high chance of droping it

then again i got moake omnium on first try

[maiden locust]

i stopped trying to get that after 5 tries

[native salmon]

still trying to get bleed though

[maiden locust]

i just do thunderwing for mats

[humble relic]

bro just switch tbh

u don't care about the horizontal stuff

and that's like the reason 90% on euw won't switch

[native salmon]

i'm still at 1452.5 bc i kept hitting pity

[maiden locust]

euw is still playable

[humble relic]

if u want gold , i can help you if u want to

just let me get my alts to relic accesories first

[maiden locust]

i might switch after i have done clown

[humble relic]

bros help their bros out 😎

[humble relic]

tbh 1 month ago it wasn't

and busses their are overpriced asf too

that's if u find one

[maiden locust]

there are plenty of busses

[humble relic]

u are talking about valtan

[maiden locust]

i only bus argos

[humble relic]

yeah YOU

but as i said they are overpriced asf

[maiden locust]

1200 isnt that bad

[humble relic]

i get argos bus for 750-850 lol

[humble relic]

and that's you a lot of people make it worse

[native salmon]

really? even on NAW and NAE i see 1100-900 and nothing under

[humble relic]

i was looking for argos bus last month there were some as high as 1.6k

[maiden locust]

i mean i ride busses that are 1200

[humble relic]

oh euc is pretty cheap in everything except crystals and and legendary books

[fading tinsel]

i think with the global honing buff, we will have more relic accessories. So the price will drop in a few weeks? what do you think? i wanna 5x3 my scrapper but i dont want to cry after 3 weeks if i do it now.

[silk shard]

Nope

[humble relic]

no

[silk shard]

Relic accessoires are still expensive in korea

[native salmon]

NAW has cheap grudge though since there are more bots there

[humble relic]

grudge is one of the most expensive on euc

not most

but its above average lol

[silk shard]

Grudge will prob increase in price

[flint night]

Does 6% dmg buff from SH Demonic skills stack with Red Dust from Zerk? Or in general do two similar buffs from two different classes stack?

[humble relic]

it is already high man

[silk shard]

With that new change

[humble relic]

@maiden locust anyway no matter what euc experience is more smoother

[silk shard]

Stack

[native salmon]

rip regions with server merges though, they have 16hr lockout

[humble relic]

oh btw we should do clown together my charecters on euc are not clown ready yet

might give clown a try on euw @maiden locust

[pseudo atlas]

is there any confirmation on if someone staying around in an abyss dungeon/legion raid after a dc helps the dc-ed player's chances of getting an entry ticket back?

[maiden locust]

are you 1475 on euw?

[humble relic]

1505

[maiden locust]

cap

[silk shard]

Doesnt do anything but a reentry can take an entire day

[humble relic]

???

[flint night]

Ok, thanks

[humble relic]

tf u mean cap why would i ask if i didn't mean it

[maiden locust]

i dont want to play with people who overgear

[humble relic]

i am 1505

[silk shard]

@humble relic same

[maiden locust]

why tho

[humble relic]

that's not that overgear for clown

[humble relic]

im talking about euw not euc

[maiden locust]

it is

[humble relic]

my euc roaster is still pretty weak

[fading tinsel]

whats the best ilvl for alts to farm weekly gold? 1400? 1430? or 1460? thanks!

[humble relic]

i will join with my main alt then its 1480

[humble relic]

i would say 1430 tbh if u don't wanna spend a lot on building ur alts

[silk shard]

1460

[native salmon]

1430

[humble relic]

that's overkill if u gonna do it on 5 alts

[pseudo atlas]

that's up to them

[humble relic]

and requires shit ton of gold

[silk shard]

Well i have it on 5 alts 😅

[humble relic]

how many hours u have man

[maiden locust]

allot of people have 5 1460 alts

[silk shard]

1500 or something

[pseudo atlas]

if they have the time and energy to do so then it will pay itself back eventually

big if

[humble relic]

it is better to have it 1430 especially if u are low on time

[silk shard]

I make 100k~ a week now

[native salmon]

only upgrade if you have enough bound leapstones to do so

[maiden locust]

people who play this game arent low on time lol

[silk shard]

Atleast 1445 for the relic sets

[maiden locust]

Anyone on regulus doing 1370 gs?

[humble relic]

i play average of 2 hours per day

[fading tinsel]

because argos is quicker? or because normal mode quicker than hard mode

[pseudo atlas]

not everyone who plays this game degens it

[maiden locust]

90% do

[humble relic]

normal is not that much quicker

[native salmon]

90% in discord do, in reality prob only 5% have more than 4hrs to spare

[pseudo atlas]

if your statistics come from this discord then the rate is extremely heavily skewed upwards

[humble relic]

but i am saying if u are low on time it is better cause getting that much gold for 5 alts to make it takes a lot

especially if u don't pay money in this game

[silk shard]

It requires less gold then you would think

[humble relic]

no , 90% of people have less than 4h per day as @native salmon says

[humble relic]

if u have right mats , rng by ur side

[silk shard]

Ofc you do have time sink in getting bound ghls and stuff

[humble relic]

then sure

[fading tinsel]

do you get double roster exp for guardian if you have rest bonus?

[humble relic]

i don't know about that lol

[fading tinsel]

im trying to catch up roster level on my 2nd account. i got denied so badly because of the roster level. thinking of doing the easy 1 hit guardian on 1370 lopang alts.

[quaint cape]

How do i reach lv 60 fast after completing main story line?

[pseudo atlas]

you don't

[maiden locust]

@humble relic do allot of people do helltan on euc?

[maiden locust]

it takes months to get to lvl 60

[quaint cape]

Ty

[humble relic]

valtan hell mode you mean ?

[maiden locust]

yeah

[humble relic]

ofc lol

everything is being done by players on euc except t2 abyssal dungeon

[inner wing]

[humble relic]

they are done but harder to find parties there

or prob cause i play after 9 pm

[inner wing]

They're bad at getting yellow orbs, that's why

[humble relic]

people doing card run are good asf in it

[silk shard]

Just wait for that boss to do the counter and then one shot her

[humble relic]

ur party might not have enough dps

[tiny hawk]

with the free punika pass from tomorrow's patch, what if it's the first time your roster is finishing that quest, do you get the free pass from now, and also the free pass from tomorrow's patch or just 1?

[humble relic]

what?

[silk shard]

1 cause the current one expires tomorrow

[humble relic]

bro why do i feel dumb i didn't understand

[tiny hawk]

i see. i thought that was a permanent thing like vern pass. sorry

[humble relic]

oh waiit i understand now , yeah only one

[maiden locust]

@humble relic i might play euc just for helltan

[fervent warren]

The Growth Support Effect has increased from 1370 to 1415 to help new players reach their friends in the T3end-game.

What does this mean?

[humble relic]

people at helltan are tryhards tho

[maiden locust]

ofcourse they are lol

[humble relic]

trust me they get so mad if u fail once they might quit

[silk shard]

Global honing buff

Just like we recently got to 1370 so its hella cheap to go to 1415

[fervent warren]

its 100%?

[maiden locust]

only if you do deathless runs and most people dont get mad

[silk shard]

Not 100 just more chance

[maiden locust]

no

[humble relic]

on euc helltan they do

[maiden locust]

+20%

[fervent warren]

is it more or less than the books that are about to expire?

[silk shard]

Prob with that buff and the orange books honing will be ez

[maiden locust]

fuck that then lol

[fervent warren]

am i better off waiting till tomorrow, or should i hone now that i have 40 books about to expire

[humble relic]

if u find chill party u are probably good

[silk shard]

Well you still wanna use the ones that expire tbh

[pseudo atlas]

wait until tomorrow

[humble relic]

most "fast/chill" are chill abou tit

[maiden locust]

do people still do prog partys?

[humble relic]

Special Event Mission similar to express, gives rewards 1302 - 1415

• Server Merge Round 1

[humble relic]

yup

i think 1302 to 1415 not 1370 to 1415

[fervent warren]

@humble relicwasnt that for only one character? i think this other is for all charas

[humble relic]

oh yeah

ohhhh yeah u are right :

[pseudo atlas]

there's no reason to use the event books that are going to expire at this moment if you're going to hone from 1370 to 1415 because you could just not use them tomorrow and get 20% success rate up and a bunch of costs down instead of only 10% success rate up now

[wise blade]

are the books inside here tradable? (from thronespire)

[ripe sedge]

Patch notes out yet? Did it say anything about new skins?

Wanna know if there's new skins that look better than wingsuit for my SH.

[wise blade]

yes there are new skins

[buoyant herald]

they are out and yes to new skins check the #announcements

[buoyant herald]

yeah they are tradable

[wise blade]

tyty

[pseudo blade]

does someone know where the level 2 relic effect sets are being displayed?

[humble relic]

@maiden locust caught u lacking saying "ingame"

[maiden locust]

lol

[pseudo atlas]

you do actually, although the roster exp from guardian raids is pretty damn low

[marsh plank]

for the 1370-1415 honing buff tomorrow, is it a 20% increased chance or reduced material cost, or both?

[pseudo atlas]

both, similar to the 1302-1370 buff we already have

[marsh plank]

ok ty

[ripe sedge]

Just read the release notes. A few things. I can't make use of the 1302 - 1415 buffs and event, cuz all my 6 chars are 1415+

Punika powerpass, might use it on my GL who has already done Punika but skipped Rohendel and Feiton. All my 6 chars have completed Punika MSQ.

The machinist and machick society skins? Are there any previews of these skins so I can compare to wingsuit?

And will wingsuit go away tonight at reset or stay in game shop to buy for RC?

[buoyant herald]

https://lostark.game.onstove.com/Promotion/Package/191009
open the shop they have remaining time on them if htye are time limited
lots of ppl wont be able to use the new express / powerpass

[thin token]

I would just buy a char slot if u can, as to not waste it thats how i ended up with 9 chars now lol

[buoyant herald]

i have 7 alr never play the 7th since no time not even gonna use any of the shit
just give free shit instead please

[ripe sedge]

Don't think I can manage any more chars. Already takes me 4 - 5 hours a day just to do dailies on 6 chars, and no point in getting 7th+ ones cuz they won't give you gold.

Now, if they allowed gold for 7th+ chars, then might be a different story

[buoyant herald]

they wont 😄

[ripe sedge]

Then I'll stay with 6 chars.

[thin token]

chars past 6 limit still give gold from raid drops and additional chaos dungeon guaridna raid drops

[maiden locust]

and bussing

[thin token]

bussing yea but i dont buss too much for me

ive definetly seen profit even without bussing from my additional chars doe

[buoyant herald]

thats for ppl with way too much time on their hands XD

[silk shard]

4-5 hours seems a lot for just 6

[thin token]

even if just doing full rest bonus still good

[fervent warren]

from what i can tell, its +20% hone chance, -60% gold, -60% shards

[ripe sedge]

6x Argos, 6x Valtans a week.
12x chaos a day (5 - 10 mins per chaos)
12x Deskulas a day (3 - 8 mins per bird)
3 x 6 Una's a day (5 - 10 mins per char)

So yeah, a lot of time to keep up my chars.

[thin token]

yea i do agree takes alot of time so only do if u can lol but u can also just rotate like 3 chars at a time using rested bonus too, that would still be good

raids doe yea would be tuff

[fervent warren]

i dont even do my alts chaos and guardians anymore, im bad

and i still make a ton of money running argos and oreha

[maiden locust]

you have no 1430+ characters?

[ripe sedge]

I have 2. Pally is 1460 and Sorc is 1430.

Pally is done with Vykas cuz has 55 wings. Sorc just hit 1430, so will be doing Vykas NM but stop when she gets 55 wings (either NM or HM)

[maiden locust]

you dont do vykas for gold?

[ripe sedge]

Don't wanna deal with 1 - 3 hour clears on Vykas when already take up so much time doing 6 Argos and 6 Valtans

[maiden locust]

fair

[ripe sedge]

I mean, imagine adding 6x Vykas on top of 6 Argos and 6 Valtans

then add 6x clowns

[thin token]

thats what i do

[maiden locust]

you wont do clown and argos tho

[thin token]

I personally dont raise my alts to new raid levels until it becomes farm for most ppl

so for example i only have 1 char at 1475 and probably wont push anymore until like 1-2 month later wen clown becomes farm

[maiden locust]

same

[scarlet sedge]

Will we have to buy kakul saydon bonus chest every week until we upgrade our relic set?

[silk shard]

Yup

[scarlet sedge]

Ty

[dapper geyser]

why is there no knowledge transfer for south vern?

[maiden locust]

we will get that when elgacia releases

[stark sedge]

If I buy the neon skin chest pack, can I use it on machinist?

[dapper geyser]

huh, ok then

[silk shard]

Yes

Skins you can use just not weapon skins

[stark sedge]

oh? Does the weapon skin get locked to the character I buy it with?

[silk shard]

Nope it just wont have one for scouter in them

[stark sedge]

Ah so I could use it on a different class (or sell it)?

[ripe sedge]

Just checked that link from earlier, went to a korean page and can't seem to click anything to go anywhere in it.

Checked in-game, wingsuit offer expires tonight.

So need pics of the new skins to decide whether to buy wingsuit or buy the new skins.

[pliant wagon]

and another one