#lost-ark-help
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In the end it comes to the spaghetti code so im just gonna forget about it and hopefully they will manage to fix it someday
¯_(ツ)_/¯
i like spaghetto
Me too, but only on a plate
Yup, but the only tab im able to delete is "System" which works fine. And creating new ones isn't helping anyhow
then yeah, into the abyss of bugs it goes
Coinflip engineering, my favourite one
Can I get lv4 tripod on legendary gear?
afaik you can't
only on relic gear and higher
Hi I started recently and have a couple of questions for which I couldn't find up to date info.
- what's a good way for recent Mokokos that just made it to 1370 to find a learning party for Argos? Is there a learning discord server?
The ideal setup in other games is normally one experienced raid lead explaining it, and the rest players that read mechanics and watched videos in advance.
- Should me and my friend not bother and just buy p1-p3 buses until 1400 when we can run all 3 phases? Or higher than 1400?
EUC (Zinnnervale)
You can't really progress LWC30 with the Challenger packs.
Solas only matters for LWC12, as he'll be max by the time you max the Legendaries in the set for LWC30.
And since LWC30 is the only one that matters for supports you really shouldn't spend challenger packs for Solas on supports.
basically just do 2 yea, the majority of the fight is a snoozefest till p2
if you pug it at 1400 youll likely be skipping some mechs or blowing by them fast since everyones over ilvl
i haven't heard of a learning discord sadly, so the only way is to try and party finder, which is extremely rare, either create a party yourself or just plain buy busses for the time being until you hit 1400, they are worth
that is the importance of having a guild, you could ask them if they can guide you
but a 1k bus is almost always better to buy than just doing p1, and if youre still unsure of the boss/phases dont worry youll be doing argos till 1475+ anyways
if you ever feel bad about dying in argos, remember there are 1415 or even way way higher people that still die on dumb things on p1 and p3, there's always someone
the only way to die on p1 is pizzas and the wipe
exactly
literally just hug argos side for 99% of the fight
yet they die, experienced alt run full roster people
p3 is actually so stupidly easy and p2 is mostly a stat check anyways
yet they die 😄
you have no idea how much healing i do with my bard every single time i do argos p3
i probably heal them for like 3-4 full health bars worth, if not more
its honestly easier to ignore the non push/knockup attacks and just dps
idc bout wasting some pots
for me it's not so much about it being worth it gold-wise. we'll get buses until we craft our 5-piece, sure. But we just started so we're far behind of the newest content anyway and not in a rush. I'd rather miss out on gold for a bit longer but learn the fight and mechs well. I'd gladly wipe on it and judge myself if it's "stupid easy". And then once I know Argos well and can beat it at ~ ilvl move ahead to Valtan etc.
Sadly I can't find enough people for it, and I don't know where to look. There must be other Mokokos, right? And maybe one generous soul that wants to spend 1h watching mokokos wipe on it.
excesive stress for me D:
and yeah, having a support means you essentially dont use any items
yeah no , supports are buffers, not heal sl*ts
Was in the same situation so just Honed to 1430 and learnt p2 and p3 that way lol
feel free to correct me if I'm wrongly assuming, but I feel most new players I'm meeting just buy Argos bus without even caring about it and just rush ilvl to the newer content with crap roster tripods etc
there are yeah, but hard to find, again if you get a guild it could probably be easier to find people willing to go with you and spend a bit of time teaching you, you can also try #979604974218653736 (of your region) and post to test luck, but the guild suggestion will always be there
also you are not wrong, new players want things fast and easy (most, not all) and argos bus is extremely worth it for 1370 people
how do I go about joining a guild offering Training runs? Posts in LFG at least for EUC seem to be about maximizing efficacy of farming weekly content (which of course makes sense for people past this).
argos is a pretty shit boss tbh, the minimini bosses are filler and each phase being gated by ilvl and gear is a trash idea because you dont even have the option to try the next phase without bussing
you dont look specifically for a learning guild, you just look for a guild and tell them you're starting out and want to learn raids and all that, asking them if they can and are willing to teach you, that you're interested in hitting legions
and as potato said, argos is shiiiiiiitttttt
valtan is where the fun is at
finding learning parties and blind run groups is not likely, you can try the lfg sections in here and other discords where theres better chance to find people willing to let you run it with some help
find a guild asap, you're missing on weekly guild shop ;D
but tbh, just pug it after you get to 1400 its a pretty on rails fight and youll eventually get it
as long as you know what x3 means, in phase 1
its a cat face ||or your party number x3 for clock positions for the wipe mech||
Of course Wonto! And that's fine, I'm always happy to put the work, watch and read in advance. I just want to go, do the pizza thing, take my color, do the "oh is it raining? Then I need this color, or that one" a few times myself. Make a mistake once, see someone else make another mistake, wipe a bit and get the clear.
I've been doing endgame raiding in other games for years, and teaching raids are common. On the other hand, there's no limitation of only being able to do the raid once in a week, and that seems like a problem for learning. Unless the teacher is beyond the level of getting Argos rewards anyway.
there has to be at least one guild doing it... right? 😅 I need to find them.
if you were on naw i could do one argos on an alt but alas
i have no idea who since i dont watch many, but some streamers also host learning parties here and there
datmods hosts learning vykas parties sometimes
currently there is no level where you don't get full argos rewards, when clown drops then 1475+ will no longer get gold & the option to buy the chest from argos
Question, I got the "update" prompt for LA from Steam. What changed in game from today's maintainence to prompt such a pop up?
Hey guys. My alt is still 1370 and just wondering if I can still buy relic gears to store the lv 4 tripods?
1415, you were never able to buy relic stuff before that
Can’t buy from AH?
you cant get relic stuff before 1415
I only wanted to store the lv 4 tripods 😦
then hone the alt to 1415
if I have an alt and skip both roh and yon is there no way for me to equip gem or do cube?
Apparently there’s 1340 relic gear too. I can get those?
1340 relic is the items you craft when you get to 1445, so
you can manually do feiton and then KT punika, giving you the clear for yorn and gem usage
cube is unlocked after you get one ticket, no ticket no cube
so if I do punika manually it wont clear yorn right
I see, I have zero knowledge in this thanks
now you have the knowledge, and knowledge is pawah
so... to get a character slot for machinist, i gotta pay real money?

if you used up all the free ones
:c
not sure how many characters i "should" have
i know 6 is the normal number, not sure if 7 or + are worth it
really dont wanna have more than 6 that you can have for free
7th onward is just a mat machine, you only can get/sell things you get from chaos dungeon and guardian raids, you cant generate gold weekly from any content (maybe lopang as well for the silver, worth mentioning)
if you have the time and want to throw a tip to amazon and smilegate, one char slot is not expensive
if u want to go hardcore u can do buses on chars past 6 limit to earn gold as well
i got 2 characters i could delete but they are at t3 :/
have you already used the free punipass
yeah on arcana, and i regret it
why would you keep playing a class you hate with all your heart
idk she is fine but idc about her honestly
is she 1415 or higher
to the abyss with her, 1370 is nearly free, 2 weeks (tops, due to events) and you have a fresh machinist 1370+
what are the other 2
also, we're due to know what machinist is gonna have as event, they already mentioned/hinted something
we could have another express for lowbie alts, an ark pass, another powerpass, we dont know
just hold onto her for 1 more week and then you can decide what to do
Guys I thinking about making a wardancer or scrapper which should I choose??
its arcana and MAYBE paladin
whichever you find the most fun
Idk man they both seem fun to me where do I test
when u make a striker female, u go to beatrice and u can try both of them @gloomy egret
game sucks and the testing ground is the best you can get, i advice looking at more vids about how the play
"Female striker" bruh
ikr
dont dirty my lovely wd like that
okok sorry signum :p
well arcana isnt bad but surely isnt my taste... i can live without her
Aight bruh tq
if anything scrapper is more spammy like, wd needs the burst window, wd comes online with relic set, otherwise way too long CDs, scrapper doesnt feel bad to play before that
(never played scrapper myself i could be wrong)
I guess im deleting arcana for scouter
even if she is t3... i just dont like her that much
just do it when iron man actually arrives
it takes 1 day to delete
well, 1 day before
it happens, plenty of people have been thru that, myself included
did u delete her?
did a soulfist, ended up with another WD
did u delete SF?
nope i bought a ticket 😄
wdym?
ahhhh but why buying ticket if u wont play it? in future i want to make all new classes so i will need space eventually
coz silver, lopang
whats lopang?
i dont hate her, i just dont like her as much
island
lopang island, an island where you get dailies that gives you silver doing una's tasks
i dont hate arcana also but i just dont feel playing her as i would play other class
you can buy a slot char tix or delete her, 2 ways, i just bought a tix since they're cheap and made that alt just do lopang daily for silver
nah
and a couple CD/GR on rested here and there, noice mats
in 1 year many classes will come, i will eventually need to delete her
or buy more char tix 😄 up to ya

im deleting her
ok
sunken cost fallacy would want me to just buy tickets tbh
but if you dont like the class then youll always be better off making a class you like cause in whatever way youll be playing it
even if just for lopang or occasional dailies
so clown is just for gold?
if you skip the tutorial/recap that gives you a free pet, can you not access it again unless you use a pass again?
higher set level = more damage / support capabilities
correct
What does that mean? We get a new armor set to hone?
you get trumpets, you use trumpets to increase your current armor's set level
have you ever wondered why your set says Lv1/Lv2/Lv3
I just got a new laptop and i'm having an issue where sometimes I will get a lag and my spell will go on cooldown but it won't register in game so the skill gets wasted? Is there any setting or update I should try to do to fix this? It seems to be more of a connection issue than FPS drop.
you sure your char is not getting hit
knockbacks can cancel your spells and put them on cd
late response: if its your 13th character then yea you should have enough gold and can just buy the mats and hone or use whatever t1 mats you still have left.
obviously there is also t1 and t2 Tower which gives alot of level up mats too. but it will still take a few days due to chaos rng for t2 and t3 gear drops.
(i think you can actually buy the gear on the marketplace though. but t3 is still rng locked)
how much hp does hvykas 105 frog have
it might be an issue where the game freezes/lags and you move thinking that your ability is already done casting and accidently waste it.
if your game freeze mid cast, the cast will continue after your game unfreeze. it wont finish the cast while you game is frozen.
also you being frozen doesnt mean the boss/mobs are frozen so they can still atk you
hp doesnt matter, frogs are to be staggered
no i want to kill the frog
you stagger them
use high stagger skills, you dont just do 100M damage and kill them
the frogs dont have a stagger bar but i believe they take stagger damage and die after
watch ATK's guide if you still wonder how to kill them
its kinda like the stagger bars in guardian raids where you cant see the bar but it exist
i see
dont just focus on frogs and leave vykas alone though. cause she has a stagger bar too
how much gold would you say a legendary select pack goes for?
depends on region and player's pocket
yea i think can wei both vykas and frog at the same time
i got 1 for 10k
also he said "I wei 1 and kill the other", meaning he goes for both vykas and frog (or i think so at least) to save on the time stop
yea wei 1 frog + vykas then everyone go for the other
so everyone has bar for tents and has extra orb
Yeah that makes sense but a lot of this is skills that are animation locked i.e. awakening
those are hell strats, but ofc it can be replicated on nm or hm, the only thing is having wei ready for 0hp

depends on if your dps is cracked or not i guess
well can always go 2nd medusa if wei not up 
hard question. i had to use a select card pack to get delain armen cause for some reason even though ive been playing the game since release and has a lost wind 15, the only delain i have is from that one select pack. so if you really need that card then it can be worth alot.
ive seen some go for 50g, some go for 500g and some go 1k+. it depends if the players your playing with really want it or not
10 igneas 
legendary select pack at 50g? i dont believe it
the first week of abyssal i got legendary pack for 50g but i was in a room full of bots :d
when the event first started you wouldnt believe. maybe not now
most people dont want to spend gold on things they already have. some people arent farming cards so if they see someone else bid for it they just give up. i was one of those
yea once you have los18 the value of these drops drastically
unless you speedrunning 30
i am not farming igneas. mainly cause of rapport. only rapport i have are the island rapports or the important continent ones like nia
i had +12 when they started that and didnt feel like rushing 18 so i dont bid high. + i need my gold for honing so i dont like to bid high on anything
_
if i see someone bid high i just take it as they really need it and stop bidding
everyone needs it unless they already have all leggo cards +15 in the game
if they bid 1k, that's cheap to the point its crazy (imo), if they bid 10k first bid, let it go probably, they are rich
well yeah, its just some people view it as more important then others. some are fine with +12 while some want it at +18 or +30
12 only works for vykas' gate 2 and 3, its useless everywhere else
+12 is the crit rate buff right?
dude, are you talking about LWC?
or im i thinking light of salvation
im talking bout LoS, light damage convertion
los18+ is a goal unachievable by probably most players so "need" for selectors is a bit of an overstatement
oh yeah lol. i was talking about the wrong one lol
lwc12 is still pretty hard to get if you're not doing card runs every week, slightly easier now with challenge card packs
i got +15 on both and never did card runs. too lazy to do that and too many alts.
lwc12 should be achievable by pretty much anyone who plays somewhat consistantly.
Seria is guarantee'd +5. which means you just need 7 from 5 cards. A lot of which are guarantee'd from certain sources
although now its looking like a nice option. my rng went to shit. i use to have a good rate on getting legendary for the card packs but i never see them anymore
why is seria guaranteed?
because rapport wandering merchants sell her
wandering merchants
green one, yes
yeah, its technically farmable, but miserable to do so
yea i only have a +3 for solas from the feerless pack
got super lucky with mine, hes already done
you guys have solas with 1+ awakening?
guys there is some market page or soft where i can check prices historyy for items ?

weird flex on us mere mortals

yeah ik not even a 5 star
i believe korea has a new market update that gives more info like that but atm what we have if just the one that tells you the daily average for some items
this the best flex
lol not even +15 smh
wish it was +1
weird question, what other random cards are worth awakening, for the little boosts?
i assume vykas counts as a demon? what is Kakul?
you mean kakul satan?
yes
i mean its in the name
well his name is Kakul Saydon, so
well true, but yea they are from the demon clan
Do the "energy" of my crafting tools get lower everytime i repair ?
has a chance to degrade
is there a way to check total rapport cost for all npcs?
Currently i can only hit 3-4 times then it is in need of repair 😦
Learn the required EXP and Rewards for each Rapport stage with NPC's with their preferred Sheet Music, Songs, Emotes and Gifts.
or trade gear stuff
So when i reach 0/0 on my pickaxe iI need to get er new one ?
yes
Or repair its durability
you can buy like a restoration kit from mari's. but its probably better just to make a new one
if its 0 it means its completly destroyed
@dreamy bluff for example i want to check how much is this worth but cant find any info at market, so what i can do ?
You can still repair the durability at 0/0
ah ya those show on on market
ok thank you for the answer.
but there is no any acutall price or history
damn this site really has everything
but they only show up when someone bought one in the last few days when that exact same stats
ok 🙂 either that or make a new one i guess 🙂
i also recommend, for rapport, papunika.com/affinity
Normally you only restore durability on legendary or relic tools. Purple and under you just craft a new one
when you search market from an accessory. it tries to show you mats with the same positive stats and same or higher quality level. try reducing the quality level and see if more shows up
eh, no, the starting option is "Any quality"
oh maybe that option is only for relic accs then
good idea ty for help
also no

does frienly lv3 means trusted?
You sure about that sig
when you right click and "search market" it shows the sub stat and the 2 engravings, you have to specify "look for X quality or more"
directly on advance search
no
Friendly 3 is the level right before trusted
no, when you search from an item, it filters by quality
Im in bedge so i cant check lul
when you search for an item, you have to specify quality on advance search, otherwise it looks for all qualities
if you do that on a relic accs. the qualitly will show you same or higher quality only by default. i believe it wasnt like that before but some update made it like that
Trusted is complete, that's why it doesn't show any numbers ther, Friendly 3 is the last level with progress; 1500 in this case.
im at work so i cant send screenies
i see
yeah, but if you look at the auction directly from "search market" it will auto filter by quality of the item that you search from
if you are manualy searching then you have the option the choose quality if you want or its all by default
i wish i knew this site eariler yesterday i've burnt 4 relic rapport just for wisdom pot on random npc
this is the default entry when i seach market from a 22% accessory
right click search on accs, go to advanced tab, this is what you see
or something similar
huh
switching the quality to all quickly became a chore and continues to be a chore
its also the same for non relic(legendary) accs too
Not sure why ppl flexing with LWC12, that's easy AF to complete.
Flex some LOS instead.
I'm at LOS19+2(Lvl2 on 7th card).
🙃
maybe coz all my acces are shit quality, ranging from 0 to 10, i never noticed
lol
im fairly sure it wasn't always like this. idk when it changed, but at some point it did
maybe stop flexing altogether in help channel
is LoS 8 awakening a flex post or a sad post
yes
noted
ain't no shortage of bad rng, just becomes a race to see who can run 100 abyss dungeons a week and not get a leg drop
dats me
I don't even run Abyss Dungeons that don't give gold(all of them now) 
I just do content that gives card packs, like Adv Isles.
been like 4 months since i did my last card run
i just play 2 chars a day, max 3, do dailies and gtfo
i did 8 char card runs before reset and got literally 0 cards lol pretty tilting
All dungeons on all 8?
bet he didnt do feiton ones
does Spearfish guild vessel rotates over Tea and Libra guild vessel?
i only started doing adventure island 2moths ago too lol even though ive been playing since release. always been to bored to do them so i got really lucky and got my +12 set for LoS and LwC without doing card islands. as for goldless/old dungeons, i never run those
yes lol minus the under water ones yea
people that do card runs have my respect for having the patience and time to run those
Ah, true. Still that's a solid 8x8 = 64 Abysses.
imagine playing the game that much
64 Abysses, shoulda gotten you 1 card.
Droprate is ~2% from my data of 200 runs.
RIP
Can anyone tell me how much this costs so my guild can plan accordingly? https://i.imgur.com/nEGmQvH.png
i tested with 10 runs and my extremely long data said its 0%
battlefield sword?
yes, lvl 7, acquired at guild lvl 19
That's the one prior, so lvl 7 sholdn't be a horrendous amount more.
oh wait lol i just noticed they had levels
No? Tea and Libra is always present.
The other ship rotates.
is the other ship present at all major ports all at once? or does it spawn only one port at a time?
alrighty, gotcha 😄
The other ship is in all major ports at once. But different ports offer different items.
Also, there are only 2 different sets of items per ports, so you usually don't need to wait long to get what you want.
should i get my ticket back if i got disconnected from argos? it happened few hours ago and still nothing
known issue?
never happened to me but i've heard it might take the automated system a day or 2 to (possibly) refund your entry ticket
well i hope ure right, i once lost oreha and didnt get ticket back so im kinda worried ngl
did already veryify obviously, otherwise i wouldnt be asking
How much time do I have till the reset?
up to 48hrs, if nothing after that, out of luck for the week
daily? weekly?
I’m so sad I didn’t get no una tasks don’t last week
excuse me, what
what
This is the first day of the week, so you got 7 days ofc
I mean last week I missed out on everything gold even my raids
Very esl
well...
the weekly reset to wednesday has been for more than a month by now, so yeah, we cant do anything about you missing out on an entire week's gold
you had 7 days :c
Yeah it’ll never happen again….
never say never
can someone help me
error 10010
I was also wondering if I will be able to use the power pass on the new class?
alrady do alot things but still cant login
unlink your lost ark account from twitch drops
Ok Bieber 
eww
never link it
do you use a vpn
nope
those are the only 2 options for 10010, or your isp is tunneling you with a blocked ip
are you 100% sure you never got any twitch drops
nope
no, not sure or no, never got any
have you ever come in here to get twitch drops https://www.playlostark.com/en-us/twitch-drops
Activate Twitch Drops for Lost Ark, a free-to-play game that pairs ARPG combat & MMO depth to create a vast, vibrant world with thrilling fights, customization, & endless adventure.
or twitch directly
nope
just unlink amazon/steam/ whatever account you have on twitch
if no vpn usage or no link on accounts from twitch/amazon/twitch drops, its your isp
honestly i smell sus here, no offense
unlink it from twitch as i said
also, are you playing from a legally allowed country
i m just tryin to get this
then thats what i got
no idea about prime dont have it, but if something from amazon and twitch gets linked, just unlink
ok i'll try it
thanks alot
guys max skill tree effect is lvl4 or can be more ?
tripod goes to lvl 5 ( lvl 4 tripod + base lvl 1)
it doesn't stack, it takes the highest addition value
ahh ok
so +2 and +1 there don't exist functionally
yes chaos dungeons that drop relic armors have a chance to drop lvl 4 tripod and that is the highest right now
ty
i dont answer pms or messages sorry, turn off your router for like 5 minutes or smt, there arent many things that causes 10010, i told you already all the known issues that causes that error
no you wont get banned
Ah ok its all good
its either a vpn, your isp routing you with a vpn or its any amazon/twitch linked accounts
Already unlink amazon
twitch drops is the common cause nowadays
Never use twich before
outside of that, i have no knowledge of anything else that causes 10010
Ahh ok thanks alot
Already send ticket before , hopely can fix it faster
Is there a chest reward calculator that receives prices from ah, like f.e. maxroll does?
doubt it, there are a lot of g.docs where you manually imput prices however
theres an excel but u have to plug in the prices yourself
@rose jewel
I just got the giant gold bar from using my old una tokens I opened 7 chests
congrats
those accessory chests you get from the current challenge/trial guardian event won't disappear from your inventory after the event is over will they? i'm saving them to open once i get an alt to 1415
its not an even and no
weekly permanent thingies
winter illusion guardians with their own shop is the event one
and its the last week so
think winter illusion is here for another month. atleast thats when the time limited rewards expire
interesting
I’m 1423 right now As a sharpshooter why is everybody telling me to get a relic so can somebody explain me a relic sit in a nutshell
the maharaka event books expire next week, yh
neither of those are mandatory to have really, but they do increase your overall stats/dps and makes it way easier to have a good/higher engraving combo due to being 5/3 max instead of 3/3 like leggos
being sharpshooter has nothing to do with having or not relic accesories
if they're telling you that however, its probably coz your engravings may not be the best, no idea as you didnt provide us with info on that
Relic armor?
Oh nvm
are the event honing books fixed?
yes, read #announcements
Can the roster bound boxes of fusion mats great success like the unbound stack of 30s you craft?
you get the crafting mats back, but not the chaos stone
anything you craft can great success
yeah, if you transfer say +15 nightmare to hallucination or w/e. You get the nightmare gear back at +0. and you can just dismantle it
didnt realise that, so i guess only way to transfer quality is once you unlock set swaps?
pty much
are you trying to convert or are you crafting a new piece
convert is free and you keep quality
you just need the initial 55 relic craft items (wings and horns)
you dont use the wings dude, its just a requirement
well you can't dismantle gear that has been honed. so you have to use the honing dude to gear transfer your honed hallu gear into dominion fang. Then you can dismantle the old hallu gear
i would just wait the 2 weeks instead of wastig gold on crafting the whole thing again
you have to craft the dom fang piece first, then transfer the honed value onto it, then you can dismantle the hallu gear
you cannot dismantle honed gear
you either wait for 55 horns/wings and convert to your heart's content for free permanently, or waste a lot of gold and mats crafting the whole 6 set again
once again, i tell you, once you get 55 wings and horns, you can convert FOR FREE, PERMANENTLY, WHENEVER, your set willy nilly
you DONT use 55 wings and horns each time you convert your set
people have that thought a lot, its 55 and done forever
do you need full set to be able to see how many you have collected so far
you dont need hard, you can clear normal, takes longer but hey
just need to be 1445 and do the guide mission
im 1475 but i dont have 6 piece yet
and then click anything on the right side, so you see mats obtained/needed/left
its a guide quest
is it possible to buy powerpasses?
yea, with royal crystals
no, the ones you have to pay $ for
dangit, oh well, thanks my dude
then hone to 1460 :3
then just do hard, did you mass hone or something? to be that low on wings
that's mass honing, you had a lot of mats
yeah sure
just do hard then or wait, or craft everything and waste a lotta gold
they are not a thing, dont you have a guild
just do hard
same shit with a couple added mechs, nothing impossible
watch a guide and yolo
im not responsible for team mates being toxic tho
i mean, that's what guilds are for
if you dont even have the engraves or substats, idk what to tell you
its barely any different.
same mechs in G1, just don't fuck em up.
G2 is exact same.
G3 has like 1 extra mech, and medusa is diff. but most pugs i've done just TS it
g1 has the pizza dude
forgot that, barely see it anymore 😂
suffering from success
😄
Can ts it
you can, but why, just do et
Or use shields on it if failed
or just follow your supp like a lost puppy
never trust your pug support
^
What’s everything I should be taking intro account when leveling up from 1423 to 1430?
if u have enough shards
you'll need a lot of mats, every mat, but shards can and will be a betch
I just go full 15 for 1415 because books are cheap
cheese is still cheaper until global buff
not by a lot, like barely, but still extra stats are nice
my alts all did cheese, cos for some reason i've got guardian stones everywhere, but never any dest
Some alts do cheese, some alts did full 15
godbless weekly reset, can buy lotta guardians, my alt needs them
its amazing, mats everywhere, til i hone. then im just sad
madge coz pity everywhere, such is life
i need her to be 1415 before the info on tripod update comes
otherwise people are gonna be overselling all the freakin tripods
And thats why i have multiple chars of same class
i mean
i coulda mailed them, but she's a recent alt
never thought i'll be playing a 2dn wd so there's that
im just hypnotized by her counter, fast and ez
just delete ur arcanas 
Yeah my last bard is pretty far from 1415. Need to push her to mail the tripods
Or can u even mail them before 1415?
can I skip Shushire and go directly to Rohendel?
alt needs 1415 to accept the item iirc
If you meet the requirements, yes
(access to the Sea of Procyon and 460ilvl for the Rohendel's MQ)
At least dont need a lot of tripods on bard
What books?
Honing books from event/valtan
Ok I see
It goes till 15
What’s everything I should know that’s happing in lost ark? I have not logged in in 4 weeks in lvl 1423
good ol' official info
You can have beer on your head from twitch drops
^ this
Most important one
important info to know
Thanks
my arcana gave me a balthoor in oreha's, may be a sign
@rose jewel
iirc you don't even have to be 1445 to get this guide quest, but it's been a while for me
you need, since you get it once you craft your first relic armor
think the minimum is 1415 or something
its a sign that thats all you're even gonna get, and should now do everyone a favor and delete it
I remember getting the guide quest long before 1445 'cause it took me ages and I was confused as to why they gave me the quest so early
i never got the guide quest but after i crafted my first relic armor on my WD
i was well past 1415, yknow, relic armors and all
Just got a request from Azena to go to Phantomwing island for rapport quest. Can I go in it anytime cuz its a quest location or do I have to wait for adventure island trigger?
hmm, could be my bad memory then
@crisp turtle 
you can go at any time
Just did this quest last week. You can go anytime. The quest is close to phantom wing.
How to get more pets?
Twitch drops, ark passes, [F4], market, Powerpass, Amethyst shop npc, random compensation/gratitude gifts from the game
Is it possible to send an item shop gift to a player from another server (same region)?
is hit master additive or multiplicative
there is an exchange vendor in nia village next to the gem npc
What’s vendor called
just start typing maharaka in the npc search and it wil pop up
have to be in a big city or have its map open any big city
(Its a pink icon)
Its the last week of the event
Dam I just now bought it for the first time lol
all engravings are multiplicative
with the exception of any that give + atk power. Such as CD/Mass/Adrenaline, which are additive with each other
thank you very much sir
Are 1575 ilvl ppl legit?
shore
Like that's a huge amount of gold for honing alone, not even mentioning ressources
Some are, I know of one that whaled
1575 = whale. whether its a legit whale or a rmt whale, impossible to tell
1575 is literally impossible free to play XD 22+ is HUGE whale territory like tens of thousands kind of whlae terriotry
what are these 🤔
Speedy barrels in the ocean
ah i see
Pretty boring guild weekly
yeah true
never legit
hard swipe or rmt
1575 roster should be around 190+ or higher
the only wayt to get legit 1575 is with abrelshud gear
or be the luckiest mfer alive
ye i guess
would have to whale a lot on shards tho XDDD
its like 200k to fill a 23 wep
1575 extremely expensive such low % success rate, no way lv 160 roster will get 1575 that easy
160 roster get around 1460+ at most if is f2p
2.8 mil shards if you go 1 tap everything from 21
ye that shit ton money
after updating a 47mb update lost ark wont load. Is it just me? Edit: I did the steam "view integrity of files" thing and its fixed
alot alt just reach there is insanely
nah im 163 and my main is 1500 now
rest all 1445+ only dropped like 100$ on outfits
yeah i guess all depend how many alt to get there
and how long you play daily 
depends on horizontal content, get a ton of roster exp from it
that too, 1575 so unlegit
Need some advice - hone gunlancer to 1415 or save gold for last 5 grudge books?
I know I'm not ready for clown yet, I'm fine with that
I think gunlancer would yield more value in return (no more yoho, but deska instead)
on the other hand his engravings are embarassing and noone will invite me to valtan anyway
How long does it take from Rethramis to North Vern?
if you want moar gold, pally to 1430 asap, 3300 weekly and starting to get wings
is 1415 to 1430 more gain over 1400 to 1415?
I mean I'd get alot more leapstones from deska, no?
for the aura of resonance pots, can I use it even if I have 100 currently (aka I haven't done any chaos today yet)?
thanks!
Why'd u want to?
don't forget about vykas nm too
just because I don't wanna do chaos yet but my pots are expiring soon haha
Ye but 1415 also gives another Chaos Dungeon, 1430 doesn't
yeah good point
its 2 more leaps XD wouldnt call that a lot 😄
That's 2 times 2 times 7 per week 🤔
can drop relic on top of being less annoying to slaughter
If you push ur gl you need to gear him cost pheon etc. But if you push ur pally to 1430 you get a new gold source. Unlocking the 1415 for a potential good relic is not worth pushing gl imo
1415 you lose oreha gold for valtan gold, 1430 you only gain vykas gold, 1430 pays off more
Ye I just checked the amount of bound ghl on both, GL has more but the pheon argument is a deal-breaker i guess
i have 4 left from geraring those sups
still just 1k gold
been doingit on 6 chars since for months and havent dropped anything sale worthy yet XD so I'd say dont count that into the worth of the boss either
Hello Everyone!
Was wondering which Central Europe server are the "most" populated? I just have no clue which server to pick and I am in a really big dilemma about it 😄 Hope someone can give me a quick and fast name maybe and 1 reason or smthing for ex.: Thaemine cuz friendly players or smthing like this.
Kadan/Zinnervale/Thirain are most recommended
but aslong as you pick EuC and not EuW, you should be fine, they're merging the "most dead" servers next week
You'll probably find friendly players and/or dicks on any server
😮 I don't think i can access EuW servers from here
U can access any servers but euw are just dead, just go euc.
The market is region wide so it doesnt matter that much for the server choice (even friendlist is region-wide now)
really doesn't matter too much.
90% of relevant content is cross-server anyway
and even the less populated EUC servers have enough players to do the relevant content, chaosgates/thunderwings/ghost ship.
and they're merging the really low pop euc servers.
so just pick the coolest name 😄
Are CD Skill Gems applied before or after Swiftness?
unluggy it's probs a bug
swiftness combat stat? shits all multiplicative so doesnt matter what order no?
also pre sure after
Ah if it's like that then nvm lmfao.
i had a similar thing today too, no black screen but a weird 1 sec freeze now and then in group setting
Was wondering if there was a difference or if swiftness made CD gems less worth, but I guess not.
did someone dc?
ohh okay, i had it when someone dced
i talked to the chat and no one else had it
weird
What are the things that when unlocked by a character can be shared with the roster?
Gems, skins
@maiden locust support ticket
guys what's hellacademy?
a discord for hell raiders
@twin escarp i dmed you a the link
@twin escarp hell academy is for people who want to do hell, (inferno) raids
when is abyss raid restart?
like weekly reset? like 12 hours ago
when does a new player start being able to get gold? I'm currently unable to progress the stronghold tutorials because I don't have the gold to construct structures
you get gold from abyssal dungeons at 480+ ilvl
ty
am i missing something, just ran argos and do not see armor to craft from abyss vendor
are you in punika?
i was then i went to vern again which is where i got my peice last time
argos gear is preodained
correct and so far i have my gunlance
340 abyss dungeon gives gold, even if not a lot
there are two vendors make sure you're looking at the abyssal gear vendor and not the legion gear vendor
north vern and punika are both the places where you craft argos gear and/or oreha
nm i found what i was doing wrong, thanks for the info
you were checking the NPCs that craft legion's armors?
correct
is the Fish Trap worth the energy?
nailed it
oh lmao i'm blind thank u XD
Does anyone know how weapon quality works? is it like an engraving multiplier like grudge etc or is it additional dmg of something else like weapon power?
nothing new added this week?
not even bugs added, ded gaem
so it increases all engraving effects then like 100quality weapon gives 30% increase on grudge and other multiplicative engravings?
if im not totally dumb, if you do 100dmg you will do 130 in the end end end end, after all engravings
does hone level reset when upgrading to relic?
what should i open with my challenger's card pack?
which card do you need
for me strong courage or whatever it's called have the most usable cards.
i don't think i need anything outside LWC or LOS
i guess romanticist would be nice to have in general
anybody have an issue where tripods on gear aren't adding up on the skills menu?
is this reasonable for a 4x3 re deathblade?
someone told me to keep my rings at leggy so i can have class engravings
check presets
as in gear presets?
mhm, alt E
interesting tyvm
where is ambush master O.o i think ambush master > adrenaline for 4th engraving
is the ship to buy barakas for 14k sun coins also in punikka just rng?
because this is the third time i check today and it's always this ship so i'm starting to doubt
anyones game not load after EAC pops up.
have question. if i start scouter are their quest i already did to get engraving books that i can redo on alts. need purple engraving
they rotate you need to wait this ship to go/run out
How much royal crystals is it per exchange for gold?
says in the exchange page, should be something like 238 or something
so you can lose your Trusted status on your account if you sell something on market and some rmter or whatever buys it ?
Bruh 😄
first of all, restart your pc, if that doesnt work let me know, as there's a fix for that
I don't think you lose trusted status, you just might get banned outright from what I hear
lol this has been on my mind today since i sold an acessory drop for 70k today i hope not some stupid rmter gets me banned
seen a few reports with no substance
Its pretty stupid how some random rmter user can buy something off auction and u have no control over that and then poof u just get banned 🙄
should i use my 3 legendary selection packs for los18?
up to you if you want to
are you interested at all in getting los30 over like the next half year or full year
somewhat
I haven't logged on to LA since before arcana released; can I still get the punika powerpass?
yes
you have 6 days to get it
I don't see it in my mail anyway to find where to get it?
thank you
is there gonna be a pass for scouter?
shrugs
probably not
no info still?
nopers
oh damn, i dont want to handlvl scrapper
KT
ask again next tuesday after official patch notes are out
but scrapper is out at the 28th right?
I think it was confirmed by Roxx no powerpass for scouter
remember remember for semptember the glaivier
they just said that machineristist will have some sort of help or event or w/e they said in the most recent tweet
so its a coin toss between ark pass, powerpass (very unlikely), express (also unlikely)
i have a 1450 pally, is the heal supposed to only do like 2.8k per tick?
kinda seems awfully low i dont expect it to heal fully per one but idk
yes that's the heal
you heal a lot of ticks so, its a heal over time
not a burst like bord
you also have a heal built into one of your skills
the shield thing, that heals for like 9k
how exactly does a stone calculator work? ive been using one but im not sure if im even doing it right or is 7/7 just that hard to get?
so you expected to get a 7/7 right off the bat
sorry but rng is rng and its gonna be a lot harder than that
it optimises probabilities to get your goal, which in this 7/7
note: probabilities still in play
ah ic okay
the times i got a 9/7 is kinda crazy...... 9 malus in a row
yeah I'm pretty sure the first 7/7 stone I'll ever get is gonna be a red stone
if you're using the meta-game calc it literally tells you the odds of hitting the stone you want
which should be around 5%
think I'm at 20ish stones for my first 7/7 and still haven't hit it
does wardancer and striker synergy stack??
Before I hone what should I prepare? I’m 1425
hello, it is worth too buy loot rewards after clear dungeon?
Do a 30 minute praying session
I mean like should I buy any books or something
can i report people for bidding on the book when i say no bid carry
If your gear is still under 15 sure
there isn't anything to prepare for, you buy books for pieces <+15 and otherwise raw hone or use a honing calc
maybe watch a video on vykas normal I guess for when you hit 1430
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VvGOZXOWv0mD9KkZLGHNxFylv5vzmE4lGqGz50HT6M4/edit#gid=1299188745 create a copy, put in region prices
Legion Raid
File -> Make a Copy -> adjust grey cells on the right,by /u/Kashi1988 - Kashi#9999 - Kashî on Asta
Clear Rewards,Chest Rewards
Gold,Tailoring Book,Legendary Materials,Relic Materials,Accessories,Ability Stones,Stone of Chaos,Fused Leapstone,Chest Price,Legendary Materials,Relic Mater...
thank you
I just hit 1434
naisu
Now what
you can now do Valtan Normal and Vykas Normal
if you are going to push to 1445, then save your Valtan for hard mode
1415 valtan 1430 vykas 1445 valtan hard, chaos dungeon 1460 vykas hard, ice turtle
very little else that actually changes
if all 1490+ in a static 5x3 is more than enough for clown right? i was 1 node off a stone to be able to do a 5x3 + 1
turtle is huge
lol, 1490 is overkill to begin with
5x3 even more so, you're all brel ready, plz dont fomo
Thanks
saint said before valtan came out "if a competent/good group go on ilv with 2x3 they can clear", true words, now he says "If the same group goes to clown with 3x3 they clear"
so 4x3 is good to go, 5x3 is overkill, easier time
sounds plausible
What does the x mean
amount of engravings
count and engraving levels
2x3 means 2 different engravings at level 3 each
I need help understanding
watch a youtube guide or the maxroll guide
5x3 means you have 5 different engravings at lv3
not because you are ilvl 1430 means you are gonna do BEEG numbers
engravings are very very important to actually explode enemies and do numbers
Hi what’s BEEG mean
necklace is the most expenive piece of accessories right? like its the first then you should go after once you got your books/stone?
neck is harder to get right because two stats
sometimes you can optimize for cheaper sets with a neck with good stats/quality but only one engraving that is good
correct substats on a 90+ neck is probably more important than the 2nd engrave, assuming you can cheap out on it
Ok so at 1430 what are my mains ways to fix my engravings
same as everything after 1370, get lucky or spend gold and pheons at the auction house
Ok thanks
hey guys, do you know how to change setting to more impactful when using skills. I saw on streamer’s game, it looks different than mine. thanks!
I dc gate one of valtan, will i get a reclear ticket or do I have to request one?
Can you only get a certain amount of lucky mokoko’s per character?
because i have 2x level 12 book and got lucky with a 8/7 stone? is it better to buy a legendary 1370 necklace with both correct sub stats and engraving with 90+ quality vs a 1415 neckalce with correct sub stats and engravings but sub 50 quality for example?
Hey guys, the food in South Vern the one with the 8 hours wait, can I do it in parts? Like let’s say 2h each day? Or do I have to spend 8 hours instantly for the food?
i believe for that one u need to be there when the foods ready, or else it'll expire soon
totally random and event is once per day per roster
Ok thank you
i THINK, dont quote me on that, but i think that if you leave your food in the storage, it wont rot
of course, while you're logged off
Omg tough, thank you 😭
Oww, I will try that out then tommorow, thank you
better ask more people coz im not entirely sure
unless the food is easy to make, i forgot what it needs
It’s worth a shot, yeah it’s easy
it's 2 hr increments until the final one that doesn't expire
real time regardless of login status
think it was 10m leeway after each 2hr wait
that is my memory of doing it a few months back
Yeah it is 10m before expire >.<
South Vern, Yorn , Rohendell are really a pain to do
yep, punika also but at least you can party for bananananananas
weapon
all to 17 first of all
Ok thanks
also, use sniping tool
you know they ain't gonna do that
as long character stat sheet says 140% in the details sections does that mean im getting max benefit from raid captain?
at least dont put ur finger in the picture
for maxroll honing calculator do I select the lvl I want to upgrade to (20 to 21 so I select 21), or both lvls? (select row 20 and 21)
yes, 140%, which is the max move speed in raids and such, is the sweet 18% dmg increase
that's why swiftness classes usually use raid cap, or classes that increase their move speed constantly
Guys good news
he's a whale
I just wasted all my gold and made it to 1445
told ya
first one
Why aren’t u congratulations
gz!
uh.... gz?
now you can access to relic set, you'll be stronger
Thanks it hurt my soul seeing gold melt away
he can access it, but not obtain it
dw, valtan + vykas and possibly argos bus will give you lot of gold
he hasnt cleared a single legion raid, he just rushed to 1445 from like 1400, today
he'll take a while, but now he got to the fun stuff, so thats a win
:/
its craft set from valtan gives more stats than argos set? im 1400 now btw, gonna spend gold for today for 1415
no, just different set bonus
not a super good one either but better than Argos 5 probably if nobody else is running the other Argos 5
I skipped leg valtan/vykas gear entirely and other people probably have too
Guys. Are both Taijutsu and Shock Scrapper, back attackers?
How long does the mail for stuff usually last?
most last a month or something like that
Ok, not sure if I missed picking up the speed up pass for leveling up to max or not, hopefully if I do (not sure bad memeory), its not worth a mental breakdown over when I come back after a long break.
How long does it take to level up to max level in this game and a way to speed stuff up after the first level up character for alts?
Are Gunlancers a good class at all stages of the game or does it become obsolete later on? Are tanks actually needed?
tanks in this game aren't anywhere close to tanks in a traditional mmorpg
argh, should i just roll berserker then?
they are effectively a dps class that can take more damage than usual
I was hesitating between Paladin and Gunlancer... I usually always play tank and love that role
best bet is to just look up some guides or videos
paladin is closer to a traditional healer/support
and gets into groups super easily, gunlancer has some team shielding and support but not as much and they sometimes get into groups as pseudosupport
assuming you play support paladin and not dps paladin
Gunlancer is a pseudo tank imo, not that much tho
How long does it take to level alts?
Worried I might have missed a boost pass from leveling up by being potentially dumb in the past.
Was wondering for the best way to speed level them.
it's a pseudo tank on bosses that can actually be taunted to begin with, and only for a few seconds
Hmmm, so Paladin have an easier time finding groups than Gunlancer?
easily
yeah, no doubt about that for support paladin
Oh man ok... I guess Ill try pally, although usually I really dislike playing healer so Ill see I guess
your best bet is looking up videos of endgame for the classes you might be interested in
any idea what to look for on YT? Just search for Lost Ark paladin endgame?
not sure which are actually good, I just look at several and guess who's good
every class should be viable everywhere, even dps bard/paladin, but if you play dps bard/paladin people will literally send death threats
or so I've heard
was there an info chart of which + for each gear piece to optimize getting to 1415 or something? I can't find it anymore
What do they parse in trixion with 5x3
I don't really know or care
you can Knowledge Transfer, cost gold and 8 hours for every KT
If you dislike playing healer I wouldn’t recommend playing paladin. He is a very simple and straightforward class and if you dont get any joy out of healing and supporting peeps you gonna get bored real quick
so normally I enjoy getting in the face of the monster and controlling the flow of battle, but since Gunlancer isn't really a tank Idk
those are Gunlancer gameplay tho
you have taunt that can control the fight, you can facetank almost everything
Theres not much ‘control’ you can have of the boss in endgame runs. The inyourface playstyle is gunlancer and destroyer mainly
describing gl taunt as something that controls the fight is super misleading
Endgame bosses cant be taunted so control is out of the window there
Except ‘mid bosses’ like valtan and vykas gate1. Even then, your taunt is gonna be once in like 20-30sec or so that lasts only a few seconds
for challenger's card pack, which one should i pick if i want more romanticist cards?
do unas token auto collect
I believe uncollected tokens get mailed to you after weekly reset, but I'm not 100% on that
ok thx u
why wait though
thought i lost them xd
should be clear as soon as you login
Whats a pity party?
might be a guild or just a random title for friends to join. thats what I do when i make parties with my friends. just call it "ugly people only" and then invite my friends
Was wondering cuz in Genshin, pity = you auto-win the highest tier roll
well pity in lost ark just means to fail until you get the pity guarantee, no? same concept to the party xd
lol true true
whats the preperation call out, or expected for positions for vykas p3 stagger at 102 bars?
? Go to 3 orb and cleanse lust. Wait middle explode, go middle wait stagger bar, stagger, watch frogs north or south, when they're flashing gold they explode so timestop before that
Generally people go to an orb to reducr their meter (usually the one at 3 o'clock, then everyone focuses stagger and just timestop the explosion.) Generally pugs dont do the mech they just timestop.
Is there a class that uses more cdr gems than dmg gems?
Supports
how many weeks does it normally take people to go from 1445 to 1460?
Striker 
can you reroll dmg gem to cd with silver ?
No
You can by combining 3 to a higher tier, its a 50/50 chance for CD and damage.
Once its level 10 its fked.
oh shit
Hence why lvl 10 damage gems are about 3x more expensive than level 10 cooldowns, while lower levels are about equal prices for both damage and cd
so gambling 9s is a good money ?
If you're lucky lol.
Just check the prices to do the math
I rolled 6 lvl 10 gems recently, got 4 cd 2 damage 
50 50 chance for x3 profit is a good gamble 😄
Its not exactly 3x profit lol
oh
It was like 180k profit on damage and 150k loss on CD last time I checked.
Which in the long run is profit, assuming you have millions of gold.
But the prices SHOULD usually be equal, depends on the market.
oh i thought it was x3 the price nvm
A lvl 10 damage gem is about 3x the price of a lvl 10 cd gem
Ex: lvl 9 gems are 180k each, so thats 540k for a roll.
Lvl 10 damage 800k and lvl 10 cd 260k.
A damage would be 260k profit while a cd would be a 280k loss
(Those are fictive prices, just an example)
oh thats why the lvl 10 cd gems cost soo much less than x3 lvl9
When do we get another gear transfer and higher hone chances? With brelshaza?
ye
yeah normal mode you get upper relic gear
hard gives ancient gear
just +20 for g1 and 2
iirc its 1500 ilvl for g 3 and 4 and 1520 for 5 6
So we get higher chances with upper relic and different set bonuses with ancient?
id whats the diff from upper relic and ancient 😄
but same set bonuses
When will we get brel approximately?
3-4 months from now
Which would also being new chaos dungeons and stuff
could be sooner if they decide to push it
tons of ppl are alr at brel gear 
whats easy way to get a little gold, i spent all of it accidentally
do a dungeon a raid mokoko envent
sell some shit
im trying to sell i dont have enough for deposit XD
sell your soul
not really many ways to get raw gold in lost ark
turn in una tokens
thats a good one yea
i always buy the most expensive one for gamble
are they all equal chance

sounds right
Is atk spd -2% (the lv1 neg engraving) a huge detriment and deter me from parties? (in process of making a 5x3)
no
nah lvl 1 negatives are fine
thx
do i get deposit back if my item doesnt sell?
For buying gems on buses, is there any way to click their gem to take me straight to the AH? than manually looking and setting the gems?
yea
We need that site which shows the cheapest engraving combo in ah
we need them to open the market api
and sites like that will pop up within like a week
But the downside to that is bot snipes 

with all the bot issues doubt thats gonna happen yeah
There used to be a chart that shows what i need if i have a 12 engraving or what rock i need for 5x3 Where was it
will we be getting a power pass along with machinist? or do we have to wait to get more info on the update
no info yet
they did say we would be getting some event or something to help with progression but no concrete info yet just wait for patch notes i guess
i see, thanks
There was no event that lasted shorter than 4 weeks right?
probably
Are we getting any new costume with Scouter class?
we dont know
oh ok
I have to take a month break because of military training so i just dont want to miss out🥲
the only things we know are 2 facts that we are getting scouter and clown thats all we know
its just a stupid game dont let fomo get to you
Lol i was already absent from may to june its whatever but just got addicted again

game really eats from daily life..

And being able to do like 30 raids each week really exhausts you
and its gonna be even more with clown
I dont think i have ever done a guardian raid with any of my alts for example
why tho at least do them on rest
Well my priority goes from raids to una quests to chaos dungeons to guardian raids and most of the time i cant get past una dailies 
lol
chaos is better than unas
prio is chaos > guardian > unas
unas only take like 2 - 3 min tops tho 
Yea but doing an hour of chaos run really bores me
So i usually mix those tho like the chaos run with unas then other characters
ye i do chaos guardian and unas on 7 chars mostly daily
started skipping some days now
My 7th 8th and 9th characters have 0 honor shards and i pushed them to t3 in march/april...
😄
And now scouter as the 10th...
will we be able to use power pass on mechanist when it comes back
thats too many chars 🙃
paid one yeah free punika one expires on 28th iirc
@buoyant herald i have not played this game since launch, so i will be buying the puniska pass with crystals
it wil work then
I can play the game like 3-4 hours every day which is enough to do all the stuff but when i was pushing them to t3 i didnt think about the fact that i would be so bored to do content...
nhh is g1 normal g2 3 hard
worth is objective in buying busses
if you dont wanna play
or like at work and cant really play and wanna get the raid done
or just are too bad to clear it on your own 😄
What's the best way about going for those shipwreck Sea Bounties? Can they all be acquired from the same gates -> shipwreck or do you need to do different gates for different shipwrecks?
higher maps give more gold, dunno about the loot
were there any good rewards for doing Rohendel? I think of skipping it like Shushire and go directly to Yorn for the Balthorr card on completion
with sun keys you get maps that give more gold that harmony keys


