#lost-ark-help
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what is the best upgrade for gold spent?
What do you mean
overall player power probably gems
well maybe not anymore with the gem prices these days but going from low tier gems to full lvl 7s is a sizeable difference for maybe 150k gold spent
Tripods and gems, but gem prices are skyrocketing
Outfits 
how do i get my awakening skill?
Get awakening shards
Can buy from the general good vendor (has a chest as the icon)
Or did you just start
nah im like half way through level 50
my item level is 550 i think
what should i do after that
Nothing that's all
oh
You unlock a second one at tier 2 I think just go to Beatrice and see if she has a quest for you
How long til reset?
daily happened 2 hours ago
weekly is in 46 hours
shoulda used this, F
maybe with next reset, but i would give it 30% personally
who knows
Thanks 👍
does gold return when cancel bid?
can only cancel it if you get outbid
but yeah you get your gold and pheons back
Literally can't even get it on fishing :P
mail if same server, buy the gem they put up on the market if different server
they say bookmark or something can I search seller?
LPT: always get bus from players of a different server, so you get a gem or a t1 accessorise in return (thats like 3 blue t1 crystals and 1 Red t1 crystal) equals a minimum of 0.01 Gold
What Abyss 1340 armor i should craft for sorc igniter?
Check out your class guide or #sorceress - tldr: you need crit-rate
when u buy from busser does it show who bought it?
I am kinda new , i'm only in the berserker group , how to add extra?
#navigation, scroll up for non-main roles
5-3 is max with current patch
ic thx
Ancient gives 6-3 later
that is kakul right?
Don't quote me, but I think brelshaza - not kakul
no
bc they told me to buy acc with that stat and it costs pheon I think
bc its part of the transaction fee isnt it
is it a tier 1 accs?
only abrel hard and all content 1540+ (abrel hard comes out some months after normal)
ye
tier 1 accs dont cost pheons
oh sweet thx
how to unlock hope island una's task?
Complete Goblin Island quest
I am trying to complete A wonderful Adventure for the stronghold but i am unable to craft stuff because i dont have gold
well
then get gold 🙃
Gogo Abyss Dungeon
Do someone can explain or send a video about the pets leveling up ? i didnt took time to learn that yet
They passively gain XP while producing cookies in your sweatshop. Just put them to work >:D
And you need cookies anyway to buy the 30 tokens needed for leveling them up.
hey , is there any guide/website that provides information about the rewards missions in general?
@pallid panther If you wanna speed up the process you can grind rapport items for vitameows(which restore energy).
Luterra is a great continent to put at least 1 alt, cuz there's 6 different wandering merchants there to grab rapport items off of.
https://lostmerchants.com/ for reports of where the merchants are
Rewards for what missions?
But i can get all of them to legendary ? or i have to choose some
All of them. Probably gonna take months tho
That sweatshop is inside of stronghold ? i've got some vitameows from event
Yep. Click the pet icon in the management view(Ctrl+1)
missions in general, i wanna see which side quests give engravings
There's a couple in Luterra, but don't think there's many/any beyond that
Use Lost Ark Codex (https://lostarkcodex.com/us/) to lookup specific missions
For engravings I've saved myself that link: https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/sntfwf/guide_to_engraving_side_quests_get_class/
thanks
If you prefer written versions: https://www.icy-veins.com/lost-ark/leveling-overview scroll down to "4. Where to Find Engravings"
i do pref the written guides 😄
Tbh, first time I've read the comments and saw the link of that written one and since it has a screenshot of a map it's probably better to use
@noble ruin Another source of Green engraving books is first clear rewards for the world bosses(these are per-character) and the secret maps they drop. You get 1-2 from most of them. Not exactly big, but most of them are pretty quick as people aren't exactly grinding them.
These are the bosses:
You'll wanna do at least Caspiel on all characters for his card. He's part of a good card set.
Argon island
i think he means Anguished island dungeon tokens, argos is the one with ice sculpture quest
Yeh, don't think Argon has any card XP 
chaos line also has an infinite card xp thing iirc
Ye, but kinda time-wast-y.
Most card XP grinds are kind of a waste of time.
Better to just do card islands and stuff like that; general content that gives cards. They usually give XP too. You'll need way more cards than XP for the important sets anyway.

if they are missing card xp can bet they dont have the sarts from anguish and or chaos line so can spam those
Guys, if you have 2 legendary engravings [1 class and one battle] do you still need to roll a 7/7 gram for a 5x3?
in that case can either cheap out and get a 3/3 acc or a worse stone up to you
Ok cool. I'm going to buy reflux and grudge today so I'll have reflux and then grudge I can use on a lot of characters. I think I'll go with the worse stone and cheaper acc set up. I've spent way too many pheons on stones.
you would need at bare minimum a 6/5 stone
6/5 is totally doable. 7/7 has been brutal for me lol
yea i just go with the first stone that i get that is decent
if you are buying grudge AND reflux in 1 go i cant see how hard can a 7 7 be XD
I just wanted to make sure I could be 5x3 clown ready lol.
I know right lol
Is it better to park an alt at 1430 or 1415?
1430
so you can do valtan and vykas
1430 because 1415 Means you replace 2100g Income [Oreha Hard] for 2500g Income [Valtan NM - If you don't buy Boxes]. So 1415 is only +400g while Vykas would add another 2500g to that. [Again without boxes]
valtan and vykas normal give 3300 without boxes
1430 > leave them there for about a month and collect relic set mats from normal modes > slow push with fused leapstones to 1445 > once u get enough mats for full relic set u complete push to 1445 and also have full relic set rdy > eZ klaP
You sure? Could swear it was 2500g NM and 4500g HM.
pretty sure its 3300
i might be wrong tho
Valtan NM gives you 500g on G1, with 500g Box Cost and G2 gives 2000g with 800g Box Cost.
my bad then
800 2500
RU/KR apparently had 3300g's at some point.
yeah
our version isnt nerfed yet
Why the fucc Websites are like 50/50 if its 500/2000 or 800/2500 ... Im confused ...

Yes it is. Oreha on KR/RU was 2600g instead of 2100g and Argos was 3300g instead of 2700g. [Data from around Last Year]
So we've started out with Less Gold compared to them which adds up over time. Though they've also had the Clown Nerf that essentially made Oreha Worthless and Argos give less than what a Bus sells for on EUC. We'll also face that at some point ig.
Is there anywhere I can see my unlocked/locked stronghold merchants I've done
Does anyone know why the mokoseed isn't gold on the map even though I have all the mokoseeds in the area
check completed lab upgrades I guess, you can check the quests for each of them since they have a unique signoff quest
has been broken for months now dont expect it to get fixed
Could be that future updates have seeds in that area that we can't get yet. Might get fixed later I guess 🤷
I have 10k saved up I’m still at 1370 with most my gear(abysal hard gear) and mats/resources sitting at a healthy amount. What do now? Hone for Argos phase 2? Or gather more gold? Max engravings?
Best strategy for fast progression is funnelling honing materials to main until it unlucks SH(Stronghold) honing research, then you push your alts as far as the buff goes and repeat.
SH researches are at these item levels:
802: 302->600
1302: 802->1100
1385: 1302->1370
1460: 1370->1415
Unlocked: StartOfBuff->EndOfBuff
Guys did the weekly rapport chest for 120crystals gave like 1 legendary rapport each day for 7 days?
i have not been mentally unwell enough to even consider buying rapport boxes from mari
No it gives what it says, once.
Haha yeah not right now ;d
Ohh thank you appreciated 🙂
Anyone know a way to test battle items damage in the training ground? (Like Luterra horn)
Is this hair color dirty blonde?
Ok ok thanks for the notice
Think its actually because we get an island or someting there in the future
hello any recommendations on which class to play for a new player with previous mmo experience?
Just anything you like tbh, the class balance is fairly decent
Good first-character classes: Scrapper, Shadowhunter, Sorceress and Paladin.
anyone had this error? after the new windows update 
try roll back the update 
Shouldn't have gotten windows 11 in the first place 
i usually played as a tank in other mmos what tanks are in this game
paladin and gunlancer
tho no traditional tank in lost ark just takny dps as gunlancer and tanky supp as paladin
There isn't any tank as a usual mmo playstyle but gunlancer can be considered a tank, he can shield himself and has paralysis immunity but is pretty slow
Seen that recommended by some. Why not Swift? I know wheelchair is top DPS, but Swift shouldn't be too far behind.
It's like playing spec Bard, since I see you play bard
It's viable, but there's no reason for you to play it over the main build
Ease of use?
Of swift arti?
Ye
swift arty is terrible dps post-patch, crit/swift w/800 swift 1200 crit is better
I mean still idk about that, definitely not better than most of the other easier classes
but you still need like lv7 gems so your rotation is ironed out
Okay, Arti out then ^^
also, even if you did want to make a swift arty post-patch, you must get to 1445 asap for nightmare
else you'll be oom 80% of the fight
Just use all the Focus runes 😎
if I delete a character will that name be taken when I try to use it again
you wait 2-5 minutes after u delete it so it updates to the server that the name is not taken
it'll be on cooldown for like... 60d or something
There's a grace period of 30-60(?) days or so if it was lvl50+.
If it was a lvl10 trixion char it's instantly usable.
depends on the level of the character
That is incorrect for chars over lvl 10 or something
i see
I just created it so I guess I can do what Ballin said?
If u didn't leave Trixion then I believe so
yea just put the name and spam click create if it's a great name so it doesn't get yoinked
It only applies Timer/Restriction once you get past Lv 1 [aka leave trixion and get the free lv 10] iirc. So yeah you should be able to get it.
alright thanks guys!
Nah, lvl10 is applied in trixion. Not sure if leaving trix is what applies the timer, but getting a char to lvl10 isn't what triggers the timer.
Pretty sure after creation, but not being in the Char made you Lv 1 in the Char Selection, so ig you are right about it applying in Trixion, but maybe only on Alts, aka after first char [who would go through tutorial section and also auto start you into the game, only ever really looked at it once Prideholm was reached] But yeah, guess ill read it up at some point again when exactly the trigger happens.
How much is the legendary Barakas in SH normally?
7870 yellow seal
Same as legendary Wilhelm?
It might be that the class tester/selection is what applies lvl10. In any case, testing a class(which gets it to lvl10) and then not selecting a class is all good; you can re-use that name instantly.
yea
Check that site whenever you're unsure of stuff like that
That site doesn’t say anything
You gotta press at "Sold by NPC" at the bottom.
How come it doesn’t appear in my webpage?
Scroll down?
Define "doesn't appear" ?
Ok thanks
I bet lack of scrolling was the issue 
When is Machinist supposed to drop?
28th, probably
They didn’t announce any October roadmap
ah tyty
Wait, is Machinist same class as Scouter?
Just diff translation?
Man, translations are such a mess in this game 
And yes, its gonna drop on the 28th unless delay's happen. Because thats when September Roadmap Patch 2 been confirmed to happen.
[Roxx Stating so in various Topics about the Powerpass/Event Timers with Scouter and confirming there's no Overlap and that Scouter would release on the Patch day that also disabled the events.]
restarted pc, had the same error then i waited for a bit and it worked.
Anyone can help me do argos ( NA Azena) Im a new player
#looking-for-group-nae or naw, depending on your region, grab role in #navigation
would it be to waste to spend 2 legend card select packs to get 12 awakening on lostwind cliff set? (i only have 3 of those card packs available)
yes dont do that
its its a waste 😄
What is the max ship level?
10
the general tldr of those select pack usage is
- you definetly wanna use it for the LOS cards
- if u plan on playing short term then u can use them to get ur last card(s) for awakening LOS 18
- if u playing long term then u save them for months and months until u need last few cards for LOS 30 and then use them at that time
Massive waste. LOS18(Light Of Salvation) is the only one you might wanna consider aside from the obvious LOS30.
11
though 11 is a joke and only gives like +1 resistance instead of durability or speed, so people stop at 10
Might as well go lvl11 on Astray if you got the resources lying around 
It's not like there's any other important ship thing once you've got lvl10 Astray.
im just using a lvl 7 ghost ship 
buying out pirate ship mats on 7 chars is costly enough
not spend 10 mil pirate coins for a stupid ship
It's only ~1.5mil 

what item level this for?
1370 to 1415 but they are bugged rn so thye dont work wait for mait on wed should get fixed
okay, thanks
NM Vykas is 3 wings right? How many do I do need for the 3 relic, 36?
pins
Wait it’s only 1 wing? 💀
its 1 per clear
Guess I gotta buy the chest on alts
have to read higher tier ones XD
when preparing for ancient should i go this route with this rock?
or should i try getting a rock without adrenaline
im on euw so accs might be scarse
sure
What website are you using for that cause it seems good and i would like to make one for my class
I’m trying to run through my story for the first time! With the quickness! Can anyone suggest a class I can Vern power pass? I am currently playing destroyer I love the damage but he a lil slow
what does once per roster mean, cant they just say once per account?
shadow hunter is pretty fun, but ppl will argue its too easy and just a face mash char
its cheap too, only two gems
account is for all servers roster is for a server 🙂
ooh i see, thank you
Thank you very much
punika pass boost me to item level? do i need to do punika story after?
no you get the story done and a set of 1302 ilvl gear
perfect thanks, another question. i chose for error a character for the actual event. can i change it once? no missions done so far
think you can you could the last one
never tried myself so idk how it works
can i buy master skills and trade it if i want to flip it?
what are master skills ?
sounds like you got on a wrong game server
Like foraging, lumber, mushrooms etc, think it’s called expert
The crafting item to make them forgot name
oh the tool kits yeah you can sell them
Even after I buy them betttt
need help for teir 2 guardains pl,z
For the adventure island, should we continue to farm the one with gold first and then sea coins chest? or Farm the one with gold first and then card pack?
Gold > Sea Coin Chest > Card Pack > Silver? or Gold > Card Pack > Sea Coin Chest > Silver?
depends on what you need i usually do only gold and sea coins cuz i need pc for weekly stuff/guild tasks.
anyone still do shadowmoon market coop quest? never see anyone there anymore 💀
I did shadowmoon photography with another person, it was romantic
my understanding is even if we need the card pack, we can always do the adventure island with sea coins chest and then convert the sea coin chest and then get the pack from Peyto right?
sucks i just recently started to do horizontal stuff, guess to late, everyone already finish it and never come
pretty much. you get like 7 card packs from exchanging Sc to pc for 1 sc adventure island while doing card adventure island net you around ~5packs. Although Peyto's card packs are 'ANY' card packs comparing to Adv. island card packs starting with uncommon
Which quest is needed to get punika pass ;-;?
none the pass is gone
Ah thanks
At least i manage to get the express
o wait nvm it’s gone on the 28th idr the quest name though
Kek
the whole punika's purple questline
after main story done
starting NPC next to Nia
So i am planning to alt
Gunslinger, bard, gunlancer
These 3
Which one should be vern powerpass, and which one should get punika
I need opinions regarding this
some people would recommend using punika on Bard just because having her running thru stories is a pain
Berver's Friend
Ah thanks
I heard that is the case hmmmm
can i attempt to get the alakkir map more than once a day?
My main has +21 weap. Should I buy bound solars (Maharaka, guardian event) for him and stock them up or on alts to upgrade weapon?
going past +20/21 kind of pointless and a waste
best current rift piece chest to buy?
if we have enoughe, are eroded ancient ruins ones worth it?
yo guys can anyone link me to a nice guide for spec arti with relic gear?
pinned msg in Arty channel
guys i need help
how do i find world quests that provides me tier 3 leap stone?
ive been scrolling up and down the sidebar but where is it?
codex
scroll up in #navigation for arty role then go to the channel
yall how much should I sell this for on NAE, no recently sold so I'm lost
few 10 thousand i think
so like 20-30k range?
thanks mate!
how do i sort the missions by reward?
ngl im not at my pc so i cant help right now maybe somebody else
theres barely any world quests that reward leapstones, and those that do give very few.
unlesss you mean Una's tasks, inwhich case you can use the search bar to find ones which reward leapstones
if anyones on central eu i need help with flame fox
the challenge, or just normal flamefox? @unreal coyote
the bugged books of hiperexpress are delaying me so much on getting 1415
just normal flame fox on guardian
create a party
im gonna try one last time if i fail ill let you know
ill join it
is 4x3 enough for clown?
If you guys were 1460 4x3, would you first push to 1475 or 5x3?
Im also making a poll so vote ✅ for 1475 and vote
for 5x3 :D
if u are 1460 i wouldnt even bother pushing to 1475 for clown raid because it will be so hard for you to get into parties at 1475 (minimum item level) I would just focus on 5x3 on main first. Unless you have a static group to play with then yea go ahead get 1475 then
I have a group of 5 people total, not a static but they are all above 1490 so it should work to find a group.. but is 4x3 enough for him?
yea im pretty sure KR streamers have said that they have done vykas/clown raid with way less gear than what we have but because of the increase in sheer difficulty compared to previous raids 5x3 is reccomended to speed up the fight i guess
But yea idk lol, I would just follow the norm of NA and just try to get 5x3
How many euro is this male gunner topless skin? Im not at pc rn
first off, clown is a 4man raid, not an 8man.
but if you're doing it with 3 1490+ the fact they're well overgeared will make up for any dps you lack. And its not as though 4x3 isn't enough. most people will just recommened 5x3 as finding a pug without 5x3 will be very difficult, i'd assume almost impossible if at ilvl
Hey guys i got a question for you
I want to swap my main to a berserker but i don’t even have one rn.
My roster is: 1370 pld, brd and soulfist
What would be the best way to get my berserker up to speed with the other characters? I don’t have the tier 1 islands anymore since i used them before boosting my soulfist. I want to do it as quickly and painlessly as possible and really don’t want to swipe for it
Also i should add i have a crap ton of mats on my pld but they are all bound 😦
skin sets on the game shop are generally 2400 royal crystals so 20-30 eur depending if you have to buy full of it, might get a cheap chest piece with gold on the market tho
Rlly
Fastest way?
sell everything tradeable that your 1370s get, and buy the mats you need to hone the berserker @wind slate
Whats the difference between Punika and South Vern maps?
What costume is this on the game? Not the beer hat the costume he's wearing
Do i need to knowledge transfer and wait every time? Or i can just auto skip all since i’ve done them?
u need to wait each time
Okie thanks a lot guys
Is it this one?
thats probably the one he wants, 30 eur unless you have leftover crystals on the account
Anyone else having a problem loading lost ark?
Question, guys. Whats the deal with the rapport items to buy? Whats the difference between these 2 purple packs?
And which region should I buy the rapport items from, or doesn't it really matter?
difference being one is focused on the overall region to give you rapport items that give more hearts from the people of that region, and the other is more generic
Do they give yellow rapport items at random, or 100% purple items?
Someone told me these give yellow items as possibility
Did you not look at the chests for even a second? The items are listed in the chests.
Just woke up from a nap
hey i need help...im queuing up for guardian raid...it finds a match , but once it starts all alone...no other people
Are you selecting the matchmaking button and not just enter?
im setting up my integrated presets, but the tripods on my gear refuses to change even tho i have it set to different stuff from preset to preset. any helpers
The tripods on your gear will not change, it pulls tripods from the saved inventories you have and not your armor.
Again, it won't change what's on your armor.
o so whats the point of it in the integrated preset
It gives you different tripods, that's the point. But it doesn't change what's on the armor.
What do you guys think is the best honing strat to get 1415 now that we have books very cheap? 15 all?
ohh the selected tripods
not the + tripods on armor and stuff
Yes, I said that twice.
thank you
17x2 12x4 vs 15 all on avg -- asumming you have all the pieces at +12
i made mistake on that pic this is 17x2
and 15 all
unless i have bound destruction stones i'd take the 17x2 route a stack of des stone on Euc is 15k lol
I know a lot of mains are 5x3, but I rarely see any alts at 1475 which are 5x3.. most are 4x3 + 1 at most
is there a way to keep gems in my storage when swapping presets, my accessories stay there fine
one of my 1460 alt is at 5x3 😇
yeah, just put them in your storage the same way
I am 1370 atm, got like 40k dest stones that i dont know if I wanna sell or not lol
ive tried but they keep popping back into my inventory when i swap presets
you putting them into the equipment tab, or a normal tab?
i tried both
my accessories are staying in storage fine, gems keep going to my inventory
no idea then, cos it works for me
this is pretty much from fresh 1370 to 1415. top is 15 all. the huge save is coming from not having to spend another stack of des stones but if you're willing to spend them then it is up to you
thats with books on every hone?
any blue gunlancer chads around here?
Thank you!
That's more des stones than I remember 😅
maxroll recommend 19 books for weap i doubt its for every hone since on avg they expect you to hit before you hit pity
ohh ok
cuz if you pity all the way from +7 to +15. it takes 44 books for weap and 220 for armor
does anyone have a ranking for title rank?
when something can drop class engraving book, is it your class or subclass?
class engraving box (selection) can be any class skill any class has
if its like boss loot, it random of the 2 specs your class has
its always your class, can be either of the two subclasses
i think theres one or two exceptions, Ghost ship maybe?
I added $10 to steam wallet 6 weeks ago, act ivied Steam mobile guard 2 weeks ago. But still can't trade. Do I actually have to spend at least $5 in game?
legions can drop any class
I think you need to enable 2FA edit nvm you did that
that seems to be the case. you can wait another 2 weeks to see maybe steam guard takes 30 days-ish. but from most people i talk to less than ~7 if you did both and actaully spent them on Lost Ark
so I need to spend at least $5 in game?
i still haven't spent any money in Lost ARk yet
there's case where you actually need to spend at least 5 from your wallet (on any games) vs spend it on Lost Ark. im still not sure which triggers it
ummmmmh. I might purchase $9.99 crystal gem then and purchase character slot. hope it works lol
Hey again. Where do I change the tickets I buy from the Anikka traveling merchant into the Anikka ticket items that Zimmervale likes?
I only have 4, but I know I've bought like 20 tickets from the traveling merchant. Touranment tickets I believe.
I checked merchants in Port Chongyun, nobody seems to exchange these tickets
its on another tab at Anikka rapport merchant
yeah the stamp thing goes to anikka vendor 2nd tab
Thanks guys. Seems I have 52 touranement stubs, didn't realize I had that many. Should be enough to max Zimmervale's rapport fast.
when i join a guild, i have to wait 3 days to do its weekly right?
yea 3 day probation period
how much health does the barricade that has a mokoko seed behind it have
they all have absurd amounts of hp
the one with 3 of them in luterra i spent like 15 mins whackin and didnt get through
the one in yorn is the same
what il were you
its not hp, its # of hits
pretty sure they take 1dmg so doesnt matter if you're ilvl 1600i mean 1415 matter cuz access to 1600+ swiftness bring the char with high atk speed/animation eg glaivier
Lmao don't waste your time breaking it if you want the mokokos, just run up to the barrier, go back to character select, hop back on your character, then walk through the wall
you can do that?
Ya lmao
damn
only if your pc doesnt load object fast enuf
Doesn't work like that, if it did you'd just get rubberbanded back when the barrier loads in
It's like trying to walk through the barrels at North Vern port krona next to the una daily before they load in
Cus those barrels are solid, you rubberband back but the barrier is different
leave a rock on your mouse button and go to sleep, barrier will be broke when you wake up
I guess spawning close enough counts you as inside the object.
Good time saving tip 
Doesn't work :P
The barrier has a respawn timer.
the one in luterra will work, yorn i think wont
Luterra barrier respawns after 1 min
oh forgot to mention you need a class that moves forward when attackin
My game doesnt open, it load the anticheat window and after that it closes
anyone knows what to do?
That's a pre big thing to leave out kek
i've tried this but it didn't work
Restart PC
i will try
well i do all my collectible stuff on blade so easy to forget
It should, guildy legit did it last Saturday cus he was trying to hide
the proper way for yorn is a simple ahk script
Or find some poor suckas to come do it with you
since you can add in a G press after like 30secs of spamming m2
on a dead server so haha
Unluggy
for merges
it only works only for certain barriers like in West Luterra unless your pc load object so fast right after your char load in then it prolly still wont work. doesnt work in Yorn cuz mokoko seed is literally under the thing you'll get push out once the object loads in.
how much virtue is needed to not get blocked by ninaveh, its 330 in all stat?
yeah i tried on the luterra one
310 all for rapport quest, 360wisdom for dialogue
oh shiet 360 💀, so if i want to just keep feed her rapport items without getting blocked i would need to do the dialougue too so i would need 360 all stat? or 310 and doing all rapport quest is enough?
im fairly close to 310 but 360 is not happen lol
alright thank you, i guess ima do some point collecting cuz that card would help me out alot lol
there's good chance you might be hitting 360 wisdom before 310 charisma tho
unless you wear a lot of charisma skins
yea i got skin that puts me at 310+ charisma on one of my chars lol
just need a few more
it takes your daily entry if that is your question
Yes
is there an issue from the books from the express events? it's now showing up on my honing screen
its bugged atm, they will fix it this maint and extent the time
ty
I gotta ask... why did Shandi ever pick Zimmervale as an apprentice? There are probably a ton better people with better attitudes and work ethics than Zimmervale.
because it's based on star wars 
Ah, don't think Luke was such a lazy asshole to Yoda, though
like Zimmervale is to Shandi
true true
does shard investment and artisans energy transfer over to brel gear?
I want to say yes, but idk for sure
someone told me no a while ago, but I wanted to confirm

what ilvl do you need to do thronespire 25
What 3 fast una daily should I do for Honor Shard?
Did at 1450 or 60 but had like a 3x3 so 
where can i find maharaka exchange vendor outside of the island ?
any major city
is it better to stronghold mission guardian raids everyday? or rest bonus is better?
is there any other way to get chaos dungeon 802 gear? market is sold out of the piece i needed and already done my 2 runs
When is the best time to use this aura of resonance? I’ve got 4 of them and they’re expiring soon
if you need honor shards on an alt or if you reach a higher leveled cd
yeah im only on day 4 lol, just moved over from EUW
I need help in phantom palace. so i can get the moko seed by grabing the glyphs within 1 min, need a boss aggro
the place is easy i just cant grab it in time with the boss waling on me
use a scarecrow
well you see i trashed all that stuff haha
buy one
where
AH
ohh that stuff is pendy though
spendy
we'll see thanks ill be back if i cant do it
try area chat or region chat
dude this game is so dead ive already tried all that the area im in literally havent seen a single person since i got back on
i love the game just hate how quite it is now when trying to do dungeons or world bosses cant find one person
i said region chat, aka this discord
if you're in the early continents, ofc there wont be a soul
right, i left for elden ring and now im back regretting i ever left i do miss this game just sucks there isnt anyone
lost ark is an open world single player game 
your personal problem of not finding people in low abyss dungeons doesnt mean the game has 0 players
if a person is to clear low lv abyss, is for card runs
just ask in the region chat
Hello. Im new in this game, can i exchange another coin for gienah coin?
go to your region chat and ask there
you can just get boxes from the event and get them from there
best method to farm basic oreha?
is there website calculating how much mats i need to upgrade astray from lv 1 to lv 11?
anyone got a legendary jugdement in their strongholdf
pain
if you didnt get it, go ask in your region chat
What class is easier/cheaper to gear, Sharpshooter or Artillerist?
look at class engravings cost 🙂
how long do i need to get trusted ? i have steam guard activated and bought games in my steam account
Can I buy these timber from the market? or only via pirate coins?
only pirate coins
you get coins (sun, ancient, gienna...) with boxes from events, daily advent islands, sailing.
iirc you can buy the mats to craft them
theres a npc called the processor in cities
and sun coins have best exchange rate for pirate coins.
Ok thanks guys
I’m excited to get my astray soon. 10 days left for the Una and I’m done
I got Relic and epic blackfang waiting to board as well as relic Wilhelm and barakas!!
Sick of having ship breaking down at dead waters
Stupid question about Chaos Dungeons. Is there any reason in Tier 2 that I should be doing any of the levels in particular? The expected rewards look the same for all 4 levels.
higher chaos dorps a tiny a bit more
do the last one, or highest
drops are basically the same but its no reason to do the lower ones
Easier / faster on lower maybe?
if you have the ilvl for a chaos, you wont be really slower in highest
Ok
You shouldn't use Epic Blackfang tho.
The go-to all-round setup for Astray is Relic Blackfang+Relic Wilhelm+3xBarakas.
my usual setup is relic, epic blackfang (since i dont have legend yet..), relic, legend barakas, and relic wilhelm
for punika storm mission youll have to switch blackfang for more wilhelms
Thank you...and if you do not hear from me again, it will be because I am left broken and bloody at the floor of the highest chaos level.
and for punika siren missions you switch back to 2x blackfang
Which classes are back-attack entropy besides db, striker, and scrapper?
How much coins can I get per sailing coop and the daily island event?
Epic BF is kinda bad. Decent speed, but garbage resistances. Barakas is almost as fast but has good resist.
3xBarakas gets you to strong resist vs lvl3 dead, which is a big deal for travel.
Ok thanks
im not doing other sailing missions than punika and those 3 for gienna coins, so dead water isnt really a worry
Which 3?
there is dead water in yorn and feiton sailing tho
gienna are annika, arthetine, vern
Oh I think I’ll just do punika too. I can exchange the coins around right?
dps paladin 
Ohh that’s annoying
Daily Adv Isle is 500-600.
Coop is 240-400 spread across 4 parts(+~60 more coins per key).
PD SH, FI WD can go 2pc, Deadeye i think goes entropy, can't think of anymore of top of my head
Thank you
each key you get from sailing missions is another ~65 coins
Ah okay, thanks! I guess I’ll avoid those for now since half of my roster is back attack reliant
But atleast I got the most expensive crew already. Others not that hard.
control glaiv as well
Legend BF is annoying to get
Can someone explain how does the gate of harmonies etc work?
you have to have a key to get in, you get split into 2 teams, you shoot fish
but that toally depends on what server you are so youll probably just afk 3min and wait for the chest where you exchange keys for coins/maps spawns
I find not many people doing these sailing events now
You go there and do the mission.
Only focus on SMALL golden fish for more points. Stay by the fish spawnpoint until they come then follow the golden ones until they cross over, then return to spawnpoint.
Timer goes off and still not done
as said, depends on what server youre on
Yeah, you need at least 3 people on a team(i.e: 5+ total) generally to finish it.
im on one thats getting merged and there are ~5ppl doing gienna coins, but punika still has 15+ ppl
but gates then are 1v1 or so most of the time, so afk
I thought EU central is very populated?
its not a single server tho
sailing is server-specific content
Not many doing sailing anymore on top of that.
does this mean my alt has 40% crit rate? and if im having adrenaline (15%), and Preordained set (15%) and back attack (10%). Total is 80% crit rate? thanks guys!
those numbers do add up to 80, yes
didnt realise what you were asking lol.
that +12 and +3 are you gaining +12 and +3 crit points, not 15 crit rate
your crit rate is whatever it says your crit rate is, and additional crit rate is additive
the +12 and +3 in that pic don't count
from what i see yours is at 65%
Image says 25, not 40. Where'd you get 40 from?
+12 and +3 crit bonus
he prolly took in 12 and 3 from cards/potion stats
Oh, nonono. Those are +15 Crit STAT
that adds to your crit stat, which gives you 25% crit rate
You have like 1500 or so total crit stat with good quality accessories.
Those +15 Crit stats give about 0.5% Crit Chance.
The 25% is your actual Crit Chance, with that included.
so 700 crit and 1150 swiftness only give me 65% crit rate. maybe i do 1100 crit and 750 swiftness, that will give me 40 crit rate from accessories. engravings + set + back atk = another 40%. this is for Scrapper Tai
Class?
1100 crit gives 33%
I think 33% is closer to 1000 stat
no, 1 crit = 0.03%
You got the game open?
yessir
Take the % crit in the tooltip and divide it by your crit stat. What number do you get?
Or alternatively just post both numbers here and I'll do the division
Aha, thought so.
The 5 at the end there is actually of decent significance :P
Puts you off by ~20% in your calc
Okay, a better truncated value is 0.0358% crit per crit stat.
@fading tinsel just multiply that number by any crit stat you wanna consider
math is hard
ja that 8 it almost makes it 36 instead 35
so 1050 crit = 37% correct? or its different than that number
Ingame tooltip shows you exact values.
thanks a lot guys! and dps aims for 70% at least?
depends on the class, obviously 100% would be ideal, and depending on crit damage scaling, if you're using KBW, lots of variables.
simply, the higher the better, as long as you're not sacrificing too much elsewhere
as far as tai scrapper goes. its pretty flexible. some people go 70/30 crit swift, some go 30/70, and some go 50/50. tai can pretty go w/e it wants, you just swap out engravings based on how much crit you go
so its easier to find good deals on accessories then. thanks!
sort of, but your engravings change depending on what scrapper build you go.
what is the required stronghold level to be able to do guardian raids from dispatching ?
Okay, this is weird. I just had the biggest deja vu when I hit Punika.
pretty sure you can dispatch soon after you finish the special dispatch sh quest or around that the rest is just unlocked the guardian you want to dispatch by defeating them
deja-deja vu-vu?
Is artillerist a bad alt? Is scouter hard to play?
No and no
If I beaten gate 2 vykas hard and didn't get the chance to buy the bonus reward chest and proceeded to gate 3, will it be carry over to gate 3 reward bonuses or no?
No
sigh
Can you create a level 1 char and reroll gems on it? Or do you need to be 50
you get access to gems in t2 so my bet is t2
dont need t2 gear, but need to have finished yorn msq
if i'm not gonna run guardian raids, is it better to save it for rest bonus or run it in SH dispatch?
dispatch is always gonna give you less
dispatch might be better than rest, haven't seen much data on it
Hi does anyone know what item level are the relic enhancing books in kr?
Why the fck people collect engraving books? Just because they saw some streamers did it?
to get 5x3?
there are no such books
you can do what you want to but if you're not gonna ever get leg books you won't get 5x3 or more without some serious work and gold and rng
unless there are new books with akkan, relic books dont exist, its the 20% we have rn
event books
There is relic books in kr i just spoke to kanima. Thanks anyways
guys how to get knowledge transfer for southvern?
you wait for smile gate to implement it in our version
S Vern KT isn't added until Elgacia
besides, you dont want to KT SV, there are a lot of card packs there
Is there a website such as lostmarket that shows prices for KR server?
ask in the kr channel honestly
wtf... this is stupid. I got rift shards off the first 4 bosses of chaos gate, then got map and rift shards off the last boss. But I didn't get any bid screen pop up. This was a 16 man chaos gate, so it cleared well within time limits.
So why didn't the game give me participation in bidding when I qualified to get drops from all 5 bosses
2nd time of the day?
nvm that sshould be 1st for the drops
you probably closed it fast enough or you just didnt noticed, or you left before it opened
I didn't do any chaos gates today until this one. I waited until the 60 second countdown to auto-kick from the map, no bid screen. I checked my mail to see if any bid gold came my way. Nope.
So I never got any bid participation.
my theory is you did a low lv chaos gate and you cant bid on those, not that im sure, no idea, second is you didnt contribute enough to the boss
third is you did some weird shennanigans, 90% of the time its user error, and without enough info or context cant say for certain what happened
if you are extremely sure it was a bug, open a ticket, nothing we can do in that case
I was doing the S Vern one
open a ticket then
Deduct motivation points from playing more LA...
shrugs
its just a stupid chaos gate 
people who hate the game find any excuse to hate it even more
yeee 
Need to know about SH farm system.
Do I get less resources or skill XP (or less of both) per LE used in SH farming than normal overworld LE grinding?
I know we don't get world leaves from SH farming system
less of both
Is using SH farming worth it for hunting skill, or is hunting in the wild better despite extra time to find and kill the animals?
the xp is A LOT less and less mats
if you got some spare time def just do it
does anyone know how many fusion materials does this punika growth support pack have?
just click on the pack and click view details
doesn't allow me to
what happens when you try
it doesn't have that option, no ctrl + mouse button option. it's from an event months ago or this previous compensation. it's just free, been in my product inventory for so long
so what happens when you click the pack
it's in my product inventory, still can't
that from Punika Growth Support Pack?
yes
okay okay thank you, not a lot fusion mats :/ bummer. Still can't push
Hi just wondering i just hit power level 960 and im not sure what my next mission is. I unselected it by accident and dont know which is the main quest
it's the blue adventure quest or the guide quest that says 960 ilvl in it
how come vykas cant be HHH instead when bussin
couldnt find any of the things u were talking about
can't cheat the human gate mechanics
okay well what quests do you have in journal and guide quest section of journal
all i see is a world quest thats blue but it says i need to be level 1100
You can just craft them...
nvm sorry found it thank you
i've crafted 800 of them already, got no life energy left, am honing alts
You don't need life energy for crafting
If you're talking about Stronghold energy now you get a lot of it for free from the new weekly stronghold quests
And you shouldn't be down on Stronghold energy unless you spam crafted waterwheels or something
what is the best pet skill for deathblow striker ?
I think in general Cheers of Heart is ideal
none of any best of it, choose whatever u want, cause it not huge different those small ass % pet buff
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I chose atk spd but most of the time they only proc the shield and heal one atk speed buff once in a while is nice for LTS if they somehow sync
Hey, does anyone know what the Stealth active does exactly? Does it make you more resistant to dead seas for 10 mins?
It makes you invisible to the ghost thingy in dead water during voyage co op quest in dead water
The ghost that swallows you and randomly teleports you around
is there a guide of which content give skill point potion?
You can alt+d>growth> skill potions
or just type "Skill Point"
i see thanks
How do you guys fix the game becoming slower and slower over time? The only way I found around it is to reinstall it every few weeks but that gets annoying
i never encounter that issue personally, first time i heard
Yeah, weird, I had to reinstall a few times - my fps would slowly drop, loading times would increase significantly and it would just have horrendous lag once loaded into the server select screen and onwards but reinstalling fixes it somehow. Feels like it accumuluates cache or something and it just bogs it down? I have no idea
does your pc has enough memory? ram?
I've got 8gb but that is fine when I play
Whats another cheap good/efficient alt you'd recommend?
Currently having DI SH, GL, Bard, Pala, Destroyer
Thinking bout getting TTH GS or any martial arts class with swiftness(?) 🤔
check ur temeprature and check which ones eats lots of ram by go to task manager (ctr + alt + del)
guys at what level do you lose argos gold 1460 ?
DI cheap? Their books go for 16k...
1475 when clown comes out
I do that occassionally, my temps are all below 60c - and my ram is mostly eaten by the game since I dont run anything besides one chrome tab and discord
di is cheap if you dont go for 5x3
2 Gems only and that alt is far away from needing 5x3
thank you @buoyant herald so at 1415 i can only do valtan normal but if i hit 1460 i can do another 2x more legion raids?
Hit 1430 so you can do valtan + vykas at least
at 1460 you can do valtan and vykas hard
need 1475 for clown which comes on 28th probably
and yeah 1430 for valtan normal + vykas normal
thank you
talking about mats
you can buy the mats from ah
how many greater leapstones do boss rush give
Like 17?
can i craft something from beastbone like a nightmare headpiece and then convert that to a shrieking hallucination headpice (which needs a covetous wing)
Still need 55 wings and bones to enable conversion system
ahh gotcha
Do engravings & tripods work in pvp islands?
Depends on the island.
ah ok
Most of the time engravings do work on island
I have 8gb aswell, it´s not enough tbh. My loading times are slow and after it loaded the game freezes for a solid 2 seconds.
is seraphic the next set after providence ?
what ilv are you?
413
you can either
1- craft epic set
2- ignore epic set and craft legendarie set
3- ignore the sets and go directly to tier 2
Reason: if that's your first character you can zoom through tier 1 and 2 due to first time rewards and events
with events and that guide, you can just skip most of the grind and start the game for real in t3
wednesday's reset
The sailing coop can I only do once a day? Or however many times as long as there’s the event going on?
and how many times am i able to enter abby dungeons
Sailing coop you can do it as many times per day as you like, as long as the event occurs
Abyss dungeons you can only clear once per character per weekly reset
do i need 1 legendary engraving for 5x3 ?
For a 7/7 stone or similar equivalent stone, yes you need one legendary engraving
oh ok ty
Equivalent stone
Oh sorry deleted what I said
Incorrect info
Question about the ship parts from maxroll website. It doesn’t say the total costs. Any idea?
I dont even remember where to buy ship parts...
you make them at processor, at sh, or buy them at market
it doesn't say total cost because there is no way to generalize how much it will cost, go check your market or mats prices in your region
ok thanks
1m gold should be enough
sure
not really, about.... hm... not even 10k
technically if it needs 10k gold then 1m is enough
does 10k gold enough for every ship parts from lv 1 to 11?
mabye 2-3k

oh thats not too bad
go check processor npc in towns
its kinda best to make them there, since you can also "crit" and get more
Is scouter released already?
No.
I forgot it if was this week or next
28th.... next week if nothing goes wrong
2 day maintenance inc. 
biggest "if" in the universe right there
What is required to craft the ship parts? I’m not in game at the moment so can’t check 😆
wood
https://lostarkcodex.com/us/
Use it.
What are the odds to get the legendary rage rune from Chaos Gate?
is it roughly the total costs to get all the ship parts?
hi does anyone know what prices are for grudge in kr? jsut curious if the engraving will cost more over time or less
https://lost-ark.maxroll.gg/resources/ship-sailing-guide#ftoc-heading-4 and add up the cost from https://lostarkcodex.com/us/
It would take you less time to do that, than ask others to do the math for you.
As we have seen over the past few months the prices in the West seem to not resemble Korean trends
i see, woudl u say 9.5 is a decent price?

its 5700 on naw
jealous
Region?
euc
Yeah it's decent, maybe can wait for clown since it gives one tradeable book
smart, thanks
NAW also has 23k Deathblow books, 25k level 7 gems and 3k blue crystals so nothing to be jealous of rlly
ouch
What do you mean by "Gives"?
Clown vendor has one tradeable book
Pretty sure bots will be farming that too, unless AGS decides to make it untradeable
will i get back to vern to quest after i leave shushire ?
Yes.
k
At some point before leaving for Rohendel, you'll have to visit the queen in North Vern.
are the 20% books only usable on your hyper express character? or is there something wrong with them?
They are bugged
Currently bugged and unusable.
that is so bad... they expire soon too...
No, they will be extended.
thank god for that.. ty for the response though
Now you can use them on Iron Man
did anyone else's lutia go back to amicable level 2 from trusted level?
No.
do i bonus loot on alts when running argus and oreha ?
guys, Soul leaf and eternal essence is that the experience potion ?
Depends if you're gonna push them
those give xp to upgrade cards.
most of them are at 1370 and one 1400 so i dont know if its worth the gold or not
Are you going to be pushing them to 1430+
i'm focusing on 1 character now so i dont know
if you take the box you still get some gold
so that means the mats from the bonus loot worth the gold ?
Are those characters part of your main 6, if yes then buy Argos chests at least otherwise don't
yes i only have 6
same for 1400 and argos box, you take it
what about oreha ?
You're EUC so I don't think Oreha is worth the gold
oh ok thanks 👍
thank you
so if i want to lvl that char using infinite chaos dungeon i need to use that char only i cant use another char to farm for it?
No one does "infinite" chaos dungeons first off.
Not worth anymore
i cannot use tome of enchancement, what should be problem
1.Bugged wait for patch
2.You're using the wrong ones
If you are talking about the 20% they are bugged rn, if not, you arent using the right one
" tome of enchancement" is the only one with 20% or event one
others are mending and welding
okey thanks
and for 1370-1415 you have applied mending, welding which are +10%
yeah but if they dont fix at 21 patch, they are gone for good at 28 soo
i dont want to waste them for nothing
no, theyll extend the duration
ah its another perspective right
do we no longer get the free 132 pheons when making a new rosteR?
is it me or the server is lagging more than usual today?
I'd assume no. Most pheons are weekly rewards.
i mean this event thing, i got it when i made an account last month. now my friend made an account but he didnt receive them
Quick question. I got a Scrapper to try out. I wanna bring it to T3 and have some mats to do so. I want to skip as much of the story as i can. How do i go about it? I vaguely remember a Reddit comment that had a way to do so using knowledge transfer strategically to skip Rohendel and Feiton, i think. Does anyone know what i am talking about? How would you go about it?
Depends - you can technically skip all MSQ except Punika
You may wanna do Yorn for Gems and easier T2 access
Does Knowledge transfer unlock previous story that has been skipped?
Yes - you could go f.e. do Feiton then KT Punika and it would unlock everything before that
Ok. Sweet! Thanks, man.
Is there a sweet spot for tool restoration kit or just ignore it and not wasting gold on those?
Usually crafting a new epic is cheaper, iirc
i mean relic tool obv
those crafting tool crating part price has increased too much since I last fixed my relic tool so wondering now
I assume it's always 5x of what's missing on max. durability?
So 5x(0,5+40*20/30) minimum gold costs?
is the punika powerpass that we were given for free gone?
not yet
not that i know of
have you tried clicking use powerpass on a new char and see if its stll there, should say (1) for Punika
are you sure you consumed it from inventory and that it's not actually there in the character select screen
tried there is nothing there beyond the north vern one
Maybe you still have it in your inventory somewhere then
i will try again to search my characters if someone has it
The mokoko event? That's a new-player thing. Not sure if that's per account or per roster.
I can recommend Thirain
where drivers chat?
bus? deleted
(
Good riddence I say 🤷
Bussing is bad for the game anyway.
since game is very alt dependant not all want to do raids, but instead taking a bus
not everyone is skilled for bussing nor has time to do many raids yet wants to have high ilvl chars
why are ppl in korea wasting 50k gold for akkan bus?
or 200k gold for deathless helltan?
The Punika then would give you Yorn Completion to allow Gems? Sure?
how do you use this item, it is not listed when i try to hone
yes, someone here specifically tested skipping everything, doing feiton, KT punika, and it finishes everything before including yorn for gems
bugged rn
its bugged, wait for fix, or extended duration
got it, thanks
What's the minimum max. durability a tool can have? 2? 1? 0?
2 with Leap, 1 without. 0 after harvesting.
So I technically could restore 99 durability on a relic tool?
Technically yes.
- anyone know when Brelshaza raid will be released?
- anyone have a link to exp per level or Trade skill? i googled but found nothing, help pls
- how many days approx i need to upgrade pet to Legendary?
ofc, butll cost some resto tools...
Could even restore 100. IIRC it doesnt "break"
Atleast i haven't had that happen to me.
it just goes red and you cant farm anymore untill you repair
So if my math was right, completly restoring a relic tool would cost 100x5x8 (approximation of the gold price per resto kit unit)
That's just 4k?
- Unsure but most likely 2-4 months after Clown
- I dont have it, maybe others.
- Depends on how much Expertise Potions you want to use on them.
If repair kits are 8g each then i guess so
So next step would approximate how many times you can use a relic tool compared to an epic one vs how much more mats you gain from a relic to an epic
and then compare the gold values?
can i buy Expertise potions in shop?
relic alone costs 30k on eu... and youre getting it for 5 stats, not purple with 3 stats
Yes for 90 Vitemeow each, but you Also need Enhancement Tokens from the RNG Box.
I guess there's 2 much variables to really do the math if they're worth
90 cookies each XD
i mean, for crystals?
Cookies, right. Sorry.
Don't think so. Atleast the only Pet item in Mari Shop is Vitameow.
Sadly not the basic material Aquisition up. Basic > Rare ...
Its more about getting a good roll of Set bonuses and then ur basically done, just needing to repair it.
ive had 3 purple ones before that, not one had basic stat...
Yea but how you know if it's really worth? There's 2 many variables
Tools can craft up to 8 Skills (depending on which skill you aim for)
Epic rolls 3, Relic rolls 5 (RNG)
Relic rolls higher values than Epic (RNG)
Relic costs more to repair (can calulate this)
I wonder if those bonuses actually apply to the Stronghold Farm.
they do, if youre using the tool
Well I'd need some numbers to convince me 🤔
yo anyone think it would be worth to bring up a 1400 to 1430/1445 even if i 100 % will drop that char when the next class releases ? ( the one after trashinist)
Best case I get 2 Epic
one with Basic Reward Drop Rate, Rare Material Drop Rate, Special Rewards
the other has minigame difficulty and rewards
in best case that's 1 relic tool
you'd still need to repair twice as much as I do
but you'd gain slightly more mats, because you have naturally higher rolls
for extra gold income yes
yea but would they repay themselves by then ? i have no interest to play em anymore after the next class release
are you literally going to delete them and do you have 0 free character slots?
ofc theyll repay themselves with time
they will become lopang slave relegated to 2nd page
ja but lopang slaves still do raids
probably not worth it then
they dont
if not, then its not worth
2nd page means they ain't getting gold from raids anyway
no reason, unless you wanna hone 'em at some point or the joy of it 
nah boring af class that i dont wanna go anywhere near
only doing full rested GR + chaos on em when i can be arsed
rip
Man I'm going to write an essay bout relic tools
still hoping to sell their plat outfit but people keep undercutting . damn SH outfit
ie trade skills with games would need relic for game only, and to get to the game with purple/expert
See? That looks like a hell of a bad roll for 30k
nah, looks ok
its a god roll doe
Or am I wrong?
on excav u want as much minigame stuff as u can
you use it for game only
Why even use relic tools
also i crafted it for 9k ish in like the first 2 months of the game
for more/better stats
But it has 2 of 5 valueable rolls?
Uh it has minigame, that's 2, the others are mediocre?
durability non reduction chance is good too
you just have a second cheaper tool for every 5 gathers up to minigame
idk look up Zywo's guide or something he has a rly indepth one for tools i think
But wouldn't an epic suffice if you're going to switch anyway?
on purple/expert you wouldnt want minigame on it
it won't have max rolls for minigame bonus as high as that
Ye but it costs 29k less, on crafting it alone
think of it this way . u gamba for a tool u will use forever . its like gearing your char
presumably the people that are hardcore lifeskilling have roughly calculated the value of the tool and their market, or at least have been tracking how much they've been making over time with different tools
alternatively they buy shiny object for absurd amounts of gold repeatedly
either invest in them and pay them back in the long term or either dont and lose gold without even knowing it
imo unless ur rly lucky gambling on ancient tool isnt rly worth
And that's the point I'm having troubles to understand
You can't calculate the value of a random crafted relic tool - 2 many variables
I'd just sell it for 30k
since u can just get scuffed rolls
stick to legy
Epic for farming, Legy for Game
what does "fppc" mean?
Flare, Phero, Phero, Corro as in first player uses flare, second phero, 3rd phero, 4th corro
does make the raid faster but some people don't care
you can calculate it with data, but it takes a long time
how does corro work with that, I only know to use it on valtan
or rather, you can gather data and make comparisons
i use this 2 for exca
Just throw it at the start
also lowkey i dont think stronghold farm cares for the tool rarity / prefixes
Makes the turtle break earlier
itputs a debuff on the boss
all weakpoint gets "+1"
from entire lobby
Well i'm not convinced that relic tools are worth it 
then don't buy them
iirc theres also a strange interaction with weak point damage where if u crit on a skill that does weak point dmg it gets +1
with a very good stone and/or leg books probably
and i have 2 engr x12
Legendary Acc's give 6 Points
6*6=36
4x3 is 4 times 15 Points = 60 (+1 is 65)
You'd need 24 (or 29) points from engravings/books, then yes
in my case is it possible ?
You have 13 Points from Stone
so you'd need 16 from engravings
sounds doable
you can do something like 6/5 stone for 4x3 1x1 with double leg engravings, any better stones can maybe make it cheaper
The 7 isnt meaningful if he’s using leg accessories. The stone is effectively a 6/6. But with leg books on both it is possible
he was asking for 4x3+1 but that's still possible
nvm my first answer
best I can do is
15 from accs, 3+12 3+12 from 2 accs + book, 9 + 6 from acc/stone, 5 from stone
He has 2 leg books
ah, lemme edit then
you can easily build 4x3+1 with your stone and 2x12 books yes
i'd just build a cheaper 4x3 honestly
im not plannin to build relic accs tho on alt
Though I personally don’t understand why. 4x3 is fine for support. And if you have 2x leg I would just spend for 5x3
what class is this alt btw
Cause 5x3 for support is just a bonus engraving, it doesn't do a lot
bard
alright well i would say that it's even less worth
I would just get 4x3 then. The +1 is completely pointless
pheons are a bad investment when bc are this high
I would also strongly advise relic. Because the stat boosts on relic is worth it even if you don’t go 5x3, esp for support
prob will stay this high, if not higher
its still 1370
4x3+1 is to be able to get into p3 easily
even more reason to not go 4x3 1x1 on an alt bard with leg accs when something significantly less would be fine
Oh, fair enough. You can probably get away without spending anything yet
well, they're free to do what they feel like
keep tapping away till 1415
