#lost-ark-discussions

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fleet plover
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another one LOOOOOOOOLLL

obtuse oyster
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shocked you didn't go g4 thae

obtuse oyster
swift magnet
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me neither

uncut dirge
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Gz

tulip charm
fleet plover
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I feel like Paekes today

tulip charm
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so i never put any time into it

cinder bridge
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@potent dagger you rat emote but trust me the hardest raid rn is aegir and brel hm xdd

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People literally playing against you

potent dagger
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solo

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Why pug jail when solo

swift magnet
surreal gyro
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lol im watching benji do catastrophe brel

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wtf is happening

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she has like 20x more patterns

swift magnet
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gold where 😛

obtuse oyster
cinder bridge
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Also I like helping people out but for the love of God some are beyond help g_gif_aintnoway

wise pasture
cinder bridge
potent dagger
slow saddle
light vigil
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@lilac frigate round 4, 8 randoms but I CLAPPED BACK

cinder bridge
potent dagger
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My artist as +25 (non serca)

cinder bridge
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My static sup free tabbed 18 to 20 xdd

wise pasture
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frijj only one?

cinder bridge
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Meanwhile I max pitied 20 and 70% to 19 om

potent dagger
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Its a 173X alt

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They come with 1710 floor eaters

cinder bridge
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I hope you wet your arm thingies

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Speech 100

potent dagger
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What else you wanne call that class

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11 out of 10 floor eaters doing zdps

wise pasture
cinder bridge
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True that

wise pasture
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they need more atropine

cinder bridge
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Not mine in static tho

wise pasture
cinder bridge
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He's 30 ilvl and 1k CP behind me and outdps me

tulip charm
wise pasture
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I mean we had 7,2k summoner in serca do almost the same as my 4,5k zerker soshruge

potent dagger
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We go into rumble
Floor eater has no gauge for burst for like half of it

wise pasture
potent dagger
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Me on buffblade:

cinder bridge
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Well a good floor eater checks stagger bag and keeps resources

tulip charm
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i learned a new term here today

tulip charm
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"floor eater"...

cinder bridge
potent dagger
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Zdps and high incap

cinder bridge
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But no one plays reaper so it's soul eater now

potent dagger
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I like floor dancer too

light vigil
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@lilac frigate last one, barely made my money back

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sigh

tulip charm
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what is min ilevel req for church raid normal difficulty?

surreal gyro
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1700

tulip charm
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its lower than serka normal? wtf lol

surreal gyro
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yes its very low

swift tree
surreal gyro
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its more like an an entry point raid

swift tree
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If this was 2023, it wouldnt give gold

uncut dirge
swift tree
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1700/1710 entry point for Ark Grid

cinder bridge
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Well it's char bound gold anyways so huge skip xdd tf I want with char bound gold

swift tree
tulip charm
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gold is gold, idc if its bound or unbound, as long as i get a large quantity of it

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gets spent almost instantly anyways

cinder bridge
swift tree
tulip charm
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🍚

cinder bridge
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Huh

cinder bridge
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That's a huge and disrespectfully accusation wtf

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No I just don't hone alts and pump it all into main

tulip charm
potent dagger
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And bound gold can be used for that

tulip charm
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this is net's alt discord isn't it...

swift tree
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"We dont want to encourage that anymore" -Smilegate

potent dagger
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Hone/ astro gems

cinder bridge
swift tree
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KR doesnt have roster because they funnel too much

cinder bridge
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Can use it to hone main, then it's a no skip

swift tree
potent dagger
cinder bridge
swift tree
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NA/EU: 1780 main 1720-1750 main 6
KR: 1790 main, 1640-1680 main 6

uncut dirge
potent dagger
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Me: 1755 main 5 1730 alts

cinder bridge
uncut dirge
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Essentially meaning that eventually all the alts have to do nightmare in that raid and it's gonna need 1750

swift tree
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all 3 versions are exactly the same, just different item level

slow saddle
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KR also just spending less too realistically speaking

uncut dirge
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Yes and you can be sure that it's gonna be DPS balanced for like 1760

slow saddle
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we have insane amounts of mats being pumped into our side so we spread so much of it into alts

potent dagger
slow saddle
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there is no positive ROI on alts to main

cinder bridge
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There is no RoI on alts in general

slow saddle
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but we do it for fun and just better game quality as the game shifts up

uncut dirge
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Why would you say there's no roi from alts

swift tree
slow saddle
potent dagger
cinder bridge
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I calculated it y'day 1720 to 1730 and doing ark grid takes 97 weeks to break even xdd

slow saddle
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it takes a while to get a positive breakpoint

uncut dirge
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So how do alt rosters work

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If it's a pure loss

slow saddle
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ah yes, lets use alt rosters as the example

swift tree
cinder bridge
slow saddle
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the only reason alt rosters are the way they are, is because of the same reason i wrote above

swift tree
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Haven't spent any gold on them

uncut dirge
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Alts are clearly profitable

cinder bridge
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Ok and yet most still have it done

uncut dirge
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If they weren't then alt rosters would all be single character rosters

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But they aren't

slow saddle
swift tree
cinder bridge
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Ragebaiting aside I get what you mean CL0_KEKLaugh

slow saddle
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and time is also money is another concept, hard i know

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bare minimum alts getting jailed or being gatekept, also fall under that

uncut dirge
slow saddle
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rats

fleet plover
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wahoo W free tap

uncut dirge
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Idk where this myth comes from that alts are negative roi

potent dagger
cinder bridge
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But I was bafooneed y'day when I saw that simply honing from 1720 to 1730 (adv honing 30 to 40) + let's say 1m gold for ark grid (and that's generously lucky) and you need 97 weeks to break even xdd almost 2 years

slow saddle
uncut dirge
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If that were the case then single char roster players should be ahead of everyone

slow saddle
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that doesnt mathematically change that you invest more into alts than the gold change you gain out of it

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theres is a diff between investing into alts vs just getting them set up

uncut dirge
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You don't do that though

slow saddle
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i think you're not understanding what im saying

uncut dirge
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That's just bs

slow saddle
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im not saying alts arent a positive ROI for setting them up

uncut dirge
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Peddled by people who either don't track their gold or can't do math

slow saddle
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its when you start to become vested into them, you lost more than the positive gain you get out of it

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..

uncut dirge
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It's 6x easier to buy grudge books on a roster of 6 chars than a single char

swift tree
cinder bridge
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If you seriously push alts and expect to make gold with it, you are not doing math

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You are doing feelscraft

slow saddle
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the cost you invest for pushing a char to 1720 to making them 1730 VIABLE for HM kaz for example, doesnt come out positive for the change in gold you make

swift tree
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It's not a zero-sum weekly gold income anymore

golden slate
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I just play bard UwU

slow saddle
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you'd rather sit a lower raid than invest in them for a higher raid to make what? 10k more gold a week?

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lmao

cinder bridge
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The only argument I accept is "I push my alts because they are fun and make more fun in harder content " that's the only reason that is legitimate to hone alts xdd

slow saddle
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and thats just talking about ilvls, thats not including things like starting to work on things like ark grid to be used for those higher end raids...

cinder bridge
slow saddle
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if someone wants to sit here and say alts are a positive ROI, they're delusional

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you can set up alts, get them to somewhere viable and play the game

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but when you start pushing them up, the amount of extra gold u get, takes so much time before it breaks even for your investment cost

swift tree
slow saddle
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the only exceptions would be things like doing HMs for more bids and drops

uncut dirge
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I made a wildsoul when she came out

slow saddle
uncut dirge
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That was 64 weeks ago

slow saddle
uncut dirge
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You telling me it costs 6.4 million (mostly raw) gold to hone to 1730?

cinder bridge
slow saddle
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you could have that same alt do act 4, mordum, and NM kaz, than pushing it to 1730 for a tiny bit more gold

swift tree
cinder bridge
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400k x11 that's 4.4 mil ark grid let's say 1-1.5 mil gold and you are already at 6.9 xdd

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And that didn't even include honing

golden slate
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Thank you lost ark

sharp rock
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You do one before 12 and one at 12 , only works if boss spawns 2 days in a row

slow saddle
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even if you invested 2m gold into the alt, my entire point was that you 'should' set up alts at a minimum level to earn viable gold

Not to invest into it and say you're getting a positive return, you ALWAYS lose but we do it because if its fun, gets out of baby raids, etc etc

cinder bridge
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Adv honing 30 to 40 is 700idh k gold 6k fusions are 640k I did calculate with juice on grace so add the scrolls on top in that cost

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You can subtract fusions if you get em from para sure be my guest

uncut dirge
golden slate
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I don’t even see fusions in paradise anymore 😔

uncut dirge
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It's a lot more now, but it used to be less for a while

swift tree
cinder bridge
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What do you get from pushing 1730 instead of 1720 ? 21k gold more

uncut dirge
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But obviously the charactee also made extra gold from materials etc. I'm just being conservative

cinder bridge
slow saddle
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whats the gold diff between NM vs HM serka?

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and ilvl diff

cinder bridge
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Sec

swift tree
cinder bridge
uncut dirge
light vigil
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1730 is for hourglass and new keys

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much better value on 1730 keys

uncut dirge
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But even if you did that gold isn't wasted

sharp rock
cinder bridge
uncut dirge
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You can always sell it and get your gold back

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11x 8s is stupid though

cinder bridge
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Or are you running with 3k CP into serka hm?

uncut dirge
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Basically every character has a bunch of skills that contribute very little damage

slow saddle
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Found it

1710 vs 1730
9k gold diff

260m vs 550m DPS check

Is someone going to tell me your investment in gold into that same character to push it from 1710 to 1730, including sub systems like ark grid, to make the dps check, is worth 9k more gold a week from that one raid?

potent dagger
slow saddle
cinder bridge
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Anyway work break is over

uncut dirge
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It's not 9k more, it's 9k x3 raids

cinder bridge
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Nice to have a fellow in mind @slow saddle

cinder bridge
uncut dirge
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And SG is gonna nerf the gold earning of lower raids

potent dagger
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I honed 1730 for new keys/ hr glass/ dailys to passive farm mats and free taps
Not to run hm serca

uncut dirge
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They always do

potent dagger
uncut dirge
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At which point you're honing up anyway

sharp rock
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Just one tap everything

cinder bridge
swift tree
slow saddle
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we all know alts are naturally supposed to be shifted up over time

cinder bridge
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It's a requirement now

slow saddle
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but to make a point that alts investment has a positive ROI, already got squashed, bad take

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you rather take that gold, do lower end raids, funnel to main

swift tree
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actually curious

slow saddle
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but

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you cannot bypass things like ark grid and all that

uncut dirge
slow saddle
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having ilvls means nothing without the other gear to bring up the CP

uncut dirge
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If I get a bit better cores she should get close to 3.5k

slow saddle
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paradise supplies ilvls and a tiny bit of CP (things like accessories, bracelets, ability stones)

uncut dirge
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And that's with event level 6-7 gems and a single 8

swift tree
slow saddle
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we cannot functionally raid just solely from ilvls as we continue to climb into higher bracekets

cinder bridge
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This current paradise season

uncut dirge
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Thing is, hell key honing is gonna push her to 4k eventually anyway

cinder bridge
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I got my 1704 striker to 1711

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Paradise isn't as insane as ppl think it is

sinful cove
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its rng, and also its been 3 seasons

slow saddle
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its insane when people are lucky

swift tree
slow saddle
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when people are unlucky, you get mats covered and supply your own gold from raids to burn the mats u get

uncut dirge
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Some of my characters went from 1710 to 1720 without even spending raw gold

swift tree
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tbh the silver and breaths from crucible are nice on their own

sinful cove
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i have had a lot of characters slow rolling since its started. not lucky but between that + buying solo shop every week its not really "Rng carried" at this point

slow saddle
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yeah it helps a lot

sinful cove
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but as mirra said, ark grid etc gigaexpensive

swift tree
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core pity alone

uncut dirge
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Anyway I don't see how alts are a net negative. The game's state just doesn't show it

swift tree
burnt tree
potent dagger
uncut dirge
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Grid is 1m to maybe 1.5m gold

burnt tree
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Bara why

swift tree
swift tree
slow saddle
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yup

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going get back to breakfast and chilling

sharp rock
uncut dirge
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I think adv honing is about 2m

uncut dirge
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Ballpark

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Regular honing is mostly covered by hell keys from my experience

cinder bridge
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How I envy you

slow saddle
# uncut dirge I think adv honing is about 2m

good good, you got numbers on hand

Now write up all the gold investment you take and compare it to which raid(s) require the gold investment vs which ones dont

Then calc the difference in earning each week and let me know how many weeks it takes before you come out positive

uncut dirge
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Yes, feelscraft

slow saddle
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its literally that simple

swift tree
slow saddle
swift magnet
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none of my chars will ever gimme ROI

slow saddle
swift tree
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I swear at this point, Smilegate keeps adding random shit just to shake up all the accounting sweats

swift tree
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no offense

sinful cove
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thats gonna be me on my scrapper!!! i spent 500kto get 1730 yesterday.. and then proceeded to run 2x rested 1720 chaos because i forgot to unlock the new content screen! POGGIES

swift magnet
swift magnet
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y'all stole them from me

sharp rock
sinful cove
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i was ain a rush to do them right before reset i didnt realize till half way through the second one lol

swift tree
uncut dirge
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but sadly it doesn't exist, so we'll never know

swift magnet
swift tree
slow saddle
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happy b day

sharp rock
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👌

swift tree
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nah we're still on Chris' bday week

sinful cove
swift tree
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I steal his bday hat next monday

swift tree
uncut dirge
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not to mention that your alts probably did a bunch of ark grid earlier too for more gold than it would cost now

sinful cove
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maxroll updated their calc but didnt add the scrolls still UltraMad

slow saddle
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doesnt change the point at all

swift tree
sharp rock
sinful cove
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i mean alts nowadays arent worth for a longgg time. youcant funnel/sell chaos dung mats. but i definitely only hone with bound mats (not bound gold)

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and cut purple astrogems

slow saddle
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yeah same for those gems for alts, cbf cutting blues but i did super early on just to get them started

uncut dirge
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+10 to +20 gear on average is 1.4m gold, AH 1-20 is 500k gold, AH 21-40 is 1.5m gold on this

uncut dirge
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i feel like this fits into the 6.4m gold my WS has earned

swift tree
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its over

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frog round 2

charred void
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imagine getting over 10 in nether weirdChamp

slow saddle
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^^

uncut dirge
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but you are right in the sense that alts are kind of

swift tree
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fuck it, I'll take it

swift magnet
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to me a char will gimme ROI if i have fun with it. doesnt matter the gold cost.

sharp rock
uncut dirge
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they're somewhat gold neutral - ie high expenses as a percentage of teh income

sharp rock
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Dito

uncut dirge
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their main gold earning potential comes out when you start winding down that alt and stop honing them etc

slow saddle
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thats why im doing 6 nightmare each week

swift magnet
slow saddle
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also helps to blow through act4/kaz

swift tree
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Sounds less like you're worried about the gold return and more that you hate yourself :3

(joking) ❤️

sharp rock
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I stopped funneling when we got Brel sakusad

swift magnet
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turtle ate too much pizza

slow saddle
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thats when i started pushing alts like crazy in t4/whaling a lot more to get them up

slow saddle
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and raid fatigue/doing the same raids for months on end got super boring...

swift magnet
swift tree
sharp rock
swift magnet
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i gamba these xD

wise pasture
charred void
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time to get my ass eaten again pepeW 👍

slow saddle
swift tree
cinder bridge
swift magnet
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i would say i have 6-7 mains xD

cinder bridge
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You are just doing it wrong

sharp rock
charred void
swift tree
sharp rock
slow saddle
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sons of the forest is fun but never finished it, played it on the early stages of the game

sharp rock
swift tree
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played it back in EA before they added the stone building options

slow saddle
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did it have a complete story like the first one?

swift tree
charred void
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yes

slow saddle
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Ooo bet

cinder bridge
charred void
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souleater eww

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how is that shit fun in 2026

sharp rock
swift tree
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bruh, the rates on some of these are just 💩

slow saddle
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scythe swinging

sharp rock
slow saddle
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honestly facts

charred void
slow saddle
swift magnet
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raid design problem. fking cutscene simulator amde me drop my se

swift tree
swift magnet
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she is fun in lonegr raids

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but the raid design currently is horrible

slow saddle
swift tree
slow saddle
slow saddle
charred void
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they are fun ok(when i log out from them and log something in the 1640 sewers)

sharp rock
slow saddle
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its an insane investment swap to do so

slow saddle
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and if you're in too deep into 1 char, its joever

swift tree
cinder bridge
sharp rock
swift magnet
supple surge
slow saddle
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its fine after like a full 6 roster is established

swift magnet
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unless you absolutely hate it

slow saddle
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and every new char comes from a pass then you slowly weave in

swift tree
slow saddle
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you swap things out 1 at a time

supple surge
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2 is just a joke

sharp rock
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i play dual classes, never liked the 6 same char roster type

swift tree
cinder bridge
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Initially I wanted to play dual main striker and pala, now there is a 50 ilvl difference between them

supple surge
cinder bridge
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And pala is my 2nd highest xdd

charred void
slow saddle
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i wouldve done a dual main if SE was out way sooner since i like scythe/dark magic style classes

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im still waiting on a female SS class

swift tree
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is it whale if I have enough classes to make a main 6 of 100 weapon qualities?

swift magnet
slow saddle
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ya

supple surge
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Yes

swift magnet
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gimme bow lazenith

swift tree
charred void
charred void
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or danika

swift tree
slow saddle
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i also play a hula hoop chakram class on BDO but idk if theyll ever bring that LA

Echidna had a chakram lol

swift magnet
charred void
swift tree
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North Yoz maybe

undone summitBOT
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@charred void gave @swift magnet +1 reputation.

cinder bridge
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Y'all will be real surprised when Nineveh turns evil in the story (my dad works at smile gate btw)

swift tree
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North Yoz Male - Aero/Soulcaller
North Yoz Female - Archer/Chakra

charred void
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pepeW 👍 lesgo

worldly hawk
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why do you hate yourself

charred void
swift tree
worldly hawk
swift tree
charred void
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subnautica 1.5

swift tree
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ooooo

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yikes

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granted the no alerts would be nicer tbh

worldly hawk
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ok nvm sub zero wants to kill you on every turn

sharp rock
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cutting braces on main dead

swift tree
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I'd give you my DBs if I could

sharp rock
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i used a 3 liner for like 5 months

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cuttet a decent 4 liner

sharp rock
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but never had a 5 liner on her so far wraps

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at this point i might just buy every bracelet in the AH

cinder bridge
swift tree
cinder bridge
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Dropped 120 spec 120crit 3 slots bracelet

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Dismantled it

burnt tree
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I'll pass frfr

cursive ruin
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do i have to do the whole thing alone or what

swift tree
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heyy yo?

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if venom was a fish

worldly hawk
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oh it's so much worse

cinder bridge
cursive ruin
cinder bridge
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Show it's juvenile form xdd

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I know it's a mod but still

cinder bridge
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When your pet grows a little too fast

swift tree
slender sky
swift tree
slender sky
swift tree
sinful cove
swift tree
wintry depot
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Nice gold paekes n.2

charred void
potent dagger
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And another note

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Can you get a 0?

swift tree
potent dagger
fleet plover
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wahoo another one free tap

slow saddle
swift tree
cursive ruin
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game keeps alt f4ing

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for no discernable reason

wintry depot
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Its me

sharp rock
cursive ruin
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warra do

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i get one 20 point astrogem and haters start growing on me like mold on bread

sharp rock
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so it took 5 days for them to hate kittyhuh

cursive ruin
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oh shoot

viscid sand
cursive ruin
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i made it back

sharp rock
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fuck altars

swift tree
worldly hawk
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that's why i got a raidcaiptain and a cursed doll today

slender sky
wise pasture
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frijj surely ratge to 1700 soon

slender sky
viscid sand
slender sky
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brandybuck crackerjack

viscid sand
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Bumpkin Kraussenach

slender sky
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bulletin cravingsnort

viscid sand
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Bandersnatch Kindlematch

slender sky
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beligerent crumblyrat

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combobreaker

sharp rock
viscid sand
cursive ruin
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my vpn turned itself off

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stop

cursive ruin
viscid sand
cursive ruin
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i listen to shrine ost on the way to college

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but i'm done with finals

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summer break time

swift tree
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Cantankerous Bandersnatch

viscid sand
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Canned Tuna Bundle

slender sky
swift tree
viscid sand
worldly hawk
fleet plover
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Bruhge really

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shit shit shit wow

wintry depot
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destiny stones are op

supple surge
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I'd take the destiny stones fr fr

fleet plover
fleet plover
supple surge
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I just hate assgems in general. KEKW

fleet plover
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same

wintry depot
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i hate saving gold

orchid galleon
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which engravings should i upgrade as first

wintry depot
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remove ss and get cd books KEKW

orchid galleon
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so cursed doll, and what after

wintry depot
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depends what the rest of your roster looks like

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grudge is the safest

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but expensive

orchid galleon
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150k

sharp rock
swift tree
orchid galleon
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i need 5 more grudges to 20

sharp rock
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u might get some in hell

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like paekes

wintry depot
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yeah can stop at 15 for any book

orchid galleon
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just bought to 20

sharp rock
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rmt

wise pasture
orchid galleon
sharp rock
wintry depot
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when are you starting the kazeros

wintry depot
safe lark
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thx4gold

wise pasture
wintry depot
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do we have time to do 1

wise pasture
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gonna make one now

wintry depot
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you go weak or stronger chars rn ?

safe lark
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you mean me

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you have oiler chars

wise pasture
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im on my aero which is technically weakest

wintry depot
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ok

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give me juicers ChaewonAngry

wise pasture
safe lark
sharp rock
long laurel
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i made 100k from purple hp potions @loud vortex you got me into foraging i started like 4 days ago wahoo

long laurel
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i hope you step on lego

errant fable
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first stone this week

errant fable
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GuraWheeze so big drops or faster ults

thorn basin
errant fable
wintry depot
wintry depot
errant fable
wintry depot
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change main atp

errant fable
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this shit now running around with a 7/10

thorn basin
wintry depot
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ok

long laurel
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my main running with 9/6 deadge

wintry depot
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my main got 10/6 last week

long laurel
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i think two of my 1680 alts have 9/7

thorn basin
slender sky
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can we keep drex as 1730 boss pls

thorn basin
slender sky
thorn basin
thorn basin
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idk im sad about honing weapon

slender sky
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going for 25 again omegawhale?

thorn basin
slender sky
thorn basin
slender sky
thorn basin
worldly hawk
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pls

slender sky
worldly hawk
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fuck drextalas

slender sky
thorn basin
worldly hawk
slender sky
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cap

thorn basin
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argeos most stinky boss in the rotation

worldly hawk
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bro argeos literally doesn't do anything for the entire duration

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he just stands there

slender sky
thorn basin
slender sky
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guild cube boxes not so nice this week so far

worldly hawk
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i've gotten jack shit

slender sky
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as long as i hit over 30 im finee

sharp rock
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but the droprate got nerfed anyway

slender sky
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wdym 4 or 5 stacks

sharp rock
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its so sad

sharp rock
slender sky
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u buy them and then dont open them for a couple week or wat

sharp rock
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yea

slender sky
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you weirdo

sharp rock
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i stack them to 10 and open 2x 5

sharp rock
slender sky
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this u

sharp rock
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im very disapointed in u my son

slender sky
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old fart

queen grail
sharp rock
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one day u will see eternity too

wintry depot
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yeah i know because you lucksack

slender sky
sharp rock
slender sky
lilac frigate
lilac frigate
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also argeos movements are at the start of the pattern instead of later

slender sky
neon cedar
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Idk, maybe

slender sky
neon cedar
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I guess it depends if Chris sleeps after work until 3am

slender sky
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LMAO

sharp rock
worldly hawk
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argeos moves exactly twice before he dies

lilac frigate
lilac frigate
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I dont know what world you live ion where argeos only moves twice

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and drex movement is very telling, like you know 3 seconds in advance

worldly hawk
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you have someone tank the front slam attack

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so he moves less

wintry depot
mystic sphinx
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Guys guardians die when they reach 0 hp stop sweating

slow saddle
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unlucky

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someone dc'ed out the guardian raid

faint grove
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what do i do with 2 of these, useless.

mystic sphinx
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mail to my valk

junior fern
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Back before there was only 1 part of the map, he would fly off to a random part of the map and always land in the direct center

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The skorpion does this too

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he would dig away, and pop out at aa random section of the map, in the direct middle of that section

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It was always very obvious who don't pay attention/are knowledge checked when they go chase the boss and get dropped on the head

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when the boss ALWAYS spawns in the direct middle of thaat section they're running off to

junior fern
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I dont remember if Drex still does

lilac frigate
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he will just randomly move back without any tell

slender sky
lilac frigate
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or just fly in the air (this is probably what youre talking about)

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like, I do both of them daily

mystic basin
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Did they make all the guardians pretty much stationary now

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Didnt*

lilac frigate
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for Argeos you have to be REALLY careful in order to not miss your ult

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but for drex its very easy as long as you dodge that one rolling attack

junior fern
lilac frigate
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and since the rolling attack has a windup time its way less forgiving

slender sky
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only one that still does from the ones we had so far is skolakia who leaves at certain hp stats, argeos and drex dont do that anymore

junior fern
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Like the one where he flys up and back, does laser left, does laser right

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that one u know will take a good 10 seconds

sharp rock
lilac frigate
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I swapped to using ult during the guard mechanic

junior fern
slender sky
lilac frigate
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because if you use it early there, he wont be able to dodge

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but the ult is a pretty good indicator of how the boss moves

junior fern
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That pattern I'm mentioning takes so long theres no way u miss it if u start ur awakening at the start

lilac frigate
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thats why im using it as an example

potent dagger
lilac frigate
potent dagger
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surly 1-2 upgrdes

junior fern
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its just a knowledge check issue

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this pattern is so super telegraphed and he always does lasers on both sides

potent dagger
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well. 1 upgrade

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XD

junior fern
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he does step baaack slightly but obv he alwaays does so u just adjust accordingly

lilac frigate
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I know that pattern

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and I always wait at the second location once he does it

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because I already used ult on the guard pattern

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but for drex its way simpler

junior fern
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atp why even bother

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its just a GR

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we're deadass comparing drex and argeos becuz one flaps his wings and one rolls

mystic sphinx
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yall still biting nails over a daily? lol

wise pasture
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@wintry depot you wanna continue with kazeros in like 5mins?

junior fern
junior fern
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im just tryna see their point

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and i think it just boils down to "one is omega giga easy, and the other one is only a bit easy ://"

wintry depot
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its not about easy or not

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argeos sucks balls

mystic sphinx
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to each their own

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just agree and move on

lilac frigate
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i mean.. its just a "one moves more than the other"

wintry depot
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you put ground buff

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he fucks up 2m

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and it fucks your uptime

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gg

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he moves constantly

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just 3 footsteps

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and its enough

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to be fucked

lilac frigate
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see, I dont have that issue arna

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my uptime is fucked up to begin with

wintry depot
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XD

junior fern
wintry depot
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yes

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and its an issue for ground buff

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XD

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argeos was easier before the ''NERF''

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he was moving way less lol

sinful cove
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he used to try to land on people but instead he just leaps back and forth

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since half of his identity is gone

junior fern
wintry depot
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yep

junior fern
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So I know exactly where to burst

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good times

wintry depot
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just moving 3 footsteps

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doesnt move a lot

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still fuckign annoying

sinful cove
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the amount of ursine punches ive missed is embarrassing

mystic sphinx
slender sky
mystic sphinx
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i didnt even know you were involved

slender sky
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i just said this and pretty much moved on

sharp rock
mystic sphinx
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i guess they were looking for a reason to argue

slender sky
mystic sphinx
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you can be the starter

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not the keeper

lilac frigate
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I mean... all we did was type a bit

junior fern
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smilge

lilac frigate
mystic sphinx
lilac frigate
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maybe I should stop doing dailies on my characters..

sinful cove
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Vertus

mystic sphinx
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bros trynna start ww3

lilac frigate
lilac frigate
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time to do scorpion with my vph bard that goes oom

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actually wait...

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i need to do argos

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welp it procced

thorn basin
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@wintry depot i do 1 nmm and an act 4 now then we go kaz pepehappy

thorn basin
wintry depot
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yes

thorn basin
worldly hawk
thorn basin
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might have 3 spots aswell I'll find out soon tm

lilac frigate
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everyone is done with their raids meanwhile im doing dailies

slow saddle
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I ran through everything yesterday just so I can have the whole week free

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This is the one week where I don’t want to spread things out

lilac frigate
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wednesday is paradise day for me

slow saddle
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I somehow did all of that yesterday too LOL

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8 hours to finish everything for the week roughly b2b2b2b everything

wintry depot
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ugly wings

wise pasture
queen grail
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gasm Another one

steady pumice
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nice pet collector

thorn basin
wise pasture
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sure sure

lilac frigate
wintry depot
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i was saying i dont go more than 30k xdd

wise pasture
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I wanted to start with 20k

queen grail
slender sky
wise pasture
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bro went a bit over

wintry depot
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yeah XD

slow saddle
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It’s the last ones I want

wise pasture
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KEKW they are ugly and barely a difference from the default ones

wintry depot
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i prefer mordum or kayangel wings XD

slow saddle
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They are different and the details of those differences that I personally notice, is why I want them

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lol

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I’m a huge fan of black and red wings

wintry depot
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it just doesnt fit my account

wintry depot
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but im a collector

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so

slow saddle
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Mordum ones I hate the overall style

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Not tryna be a fairy

wintry depot
safe lark
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time to get insulted by Arna

slow saddle
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Or some bug

safe lark
wintry depot
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i like being a fairy

slow saddle
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I did like the echidna ones

wintry depot
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i didnt

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but i like to collect mounts

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XD

slow saddle
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I’m still missing black or red kayangal ones

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Never got lucky

wintry depot
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but i just use the basic kayangel ones XD

wise pasture
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KEKW Im missing both the colored kayangel wings, doing it over a year x6 every week wasnt enough to drop even 1

slow saddle
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Those are nice because they’re actual angel looking wings

wintry depot
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darek got it in a run

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and next run, i got mine

slow saddle
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For now, it’s just broom gaming for me until I get wings I like

Idk how to go back for kayangel ones lol, I stopped hosting wing runs for a long time

safe lark
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same day, same colour

slow saddle
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So lame

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Wouldn’t mind it if they dropped in solo runs

wise pasture
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ye same

wintry depot
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yeah they need to do that

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fucking smilegate

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i hate them

slow saddle
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Gatekeeping cosmetics is the wildest thing for a company

wintry depot
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I KNOW RIGHT

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IMAGINE GATEKEEPING HAIRSTYLES

slow saddle
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Also wild

slender sky
slow saddle
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Assuming bosses die at 0, maybe wouldn’t be bad

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Lowkey I need to check

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Maybe I can borrow 3 friends for wings run

sinful cove
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kayangel you gotta do each gates mechs

slow saddle
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If we have to still do mechs, no one gonna be interested

slow saddle
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Let me crush them myself

modern hatch
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u gotta do mechs yeah

sinful cove
wise pasture
slow saddle
slender sky
slow saddle
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Haha

cyan fog
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they look hot

wise pasture
queen grail
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thionk MAN My dmg is so ass on this wildsoul dead

cinder mango
cyan fog
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kazerussy