#lost-ark-discussions
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Ugh
could maybe try Torchlight Infinite. that's been getting traction lately
path of exile spin off
yeah grim dawn is the goat
pay to play tho
if u want something free to just relax and turn brain off torchlight infinite is decent
Embrace emulation and play almost anything for free
i watch bob ross paint for that
Boring
Yes

Never understood emulation or what I can even do with it

its pretty easy to be honest
but only if you want to play older games imo
the new stuff u can just pirate
mainly singleplayer games
Pick an old console, download console, download game, play old games on PC
Oh I’m not an old game fan
Maybe try and join a grp that's not Average Combat Power 7,5k and it will be a bit of a challenge 
yeah same
only certain games
most are a hard pass for me
its not just that
the skill level of the people i know are just high
Nintendo emulation works up to the switch 1 which still releases games. Or just sail the high seas for PC games
smilegate doesn't know how to make a difficult fight lol
not that i rlly want them too, game should cater to casuals
(And they are all 7k+ Combat Power too) 
laughs in v1 brel
Didnt KR just get extreme Aegir a few weeks ago?
i only know one person above 7k.
most ppl i know are 5k which is average for 1770
not about casuals, its about KR bitching about mechanics more than a blind dps race.
and their fucking raid income model meaning every engaging mech cant exist for more than 2 weeks before being deleted
they just have multiple alts at 5k
well what i mean is

Whales.
and always should
ngl solo could be more engaging but apparently people really are that bad
ARPG is generally more difficult than your standard tab target MMO so thats to be expected
Soon! After church raid for sure
but we were all pretty bad when the game came out
thats to be expected
i remember raging at vykas. now we can walk over the boss even on ilvl
cuz the mechs are simple
its not because the mechanics are simple
simple from our perspective. but its also due to knowing how the combat system works
i bet most casuals dont know that you can spacebar patterns
they can't combine them into complex mechs / multiple stages because of homework raids
KR loses their shit if there's "dead air"
generally
I mean see everyone whining about echidna
true, you can't
serca does well
theres easy, medium and hardcore modes
soulslike? ❎
kingdom hearts? 
hell mode was the ONLY way to repeatedly, infinitely, fight a raid boss
and if they continued with the hell mode track
it would be amazing
its not gone
it is
it is not
okay that doesnt mean anything
book of coordination is the restriction required to enter hell
it is removed and hell is unequalized
unequalizaed hell mode is a failed design
after a few months you just power creep over it
it is
hell is inacessible rn tho
and the boss falls over and dies
they're replacing book with a different type
just talking about the future
according to what THEY said
i dont really call unequalized hell content, hell mode
call it w/e u want but thats not hell to me
inb4 they remove item level requirements for certain pieces of content and make it combat power scaling
you know what would be brilliant bara
You and the 4 other hell enjoyers would be in party finder all day 
you know how serca gear starts off at ilvl 1675
but u need to be 1730 to craft it?
just remove that ilvl requirement to craft
👍
they'll do that eventually prob
then what
then allow the raid material needed to craft it, from solo mdoe shop
that way you can progress leaps and bounds as a casual
instead of waiting months
what are you trying to achieve with this
bUt i HaD tO sTruGgLe tHeY sHoUlD toO1
youre essentially trying to rush gear swaps in a longterm slowburn game
Ark Grid is the slow burn tbh
the point is making the entry point lower so people can be on a similar footing and feel like they're making progression
just because it's longterm slow burn doesn't mean it has to be for new players
im not saying that they should be 1770 instantly lol
but every game like this has a big catchup mechanic baked in
I personally dont mind gating things as part of 'unlocking' the next major milestone, but they can set the bar lower to not tick casuals off
lost ark express events can hardly be called a big catchup
if they gave a single fuck about new players sure
from the time i was a mokoko to now
if i learned anything
its that new players are meant to go fuck themselves
yeah im just speaking of a utopia. CN Had a brillitant idea of gaining cores from mordum before act 4 even came out
allowed people to experience the system sooner than intended
from the time i was a mokoko till now, they given out so much free stuff and passes, I was able to actually get into the game
alongside roster catch ups, hand-outs on horizontal stuff, and if they had solo raids when i came back, i wouldve loved it for learning
everything is shit for new players when theres enough of a handful of new players that dont put any effort into anything
the issue is the lack of consistency in helping new players
and the ways they do so
mokoko bootcamp is predatory garbage
ppl just tell you to wait for new powerpass/express event
yes but we been over this like 50 times
because progressing outside one is akin to eating shit off the ground
events dont happen every month
its easier to catch people up than rework an entire system
they want to phase out old systems by making it obselete
so its easier to fully remove
than to find a way to 'make it work'
it can be easy as adding a perma express event and putting it behind a little paywall. cant make it free because thats against there business model
its not perfect, but its the nature of a game thats aged in seasons
but its literally free money lol
i mean theres a ton of content to vault in the game
they just arent committing to it
thats how bdo does it now
oh is it?
we eventually had seasonal time periods to a perma season
i didnt know that tbh
they give out season passes and you can stockpile 5 total
Strike raid is also permanent and the source of AH honing gear
or you can buy more for new chars u want to play
............
30-40?
yes
20-40*
its the version of making something like ignite, perma
interesting
but we also know how much that shit gets abused that it ruins the overall nature of the game

this would be amazing. an express event u can buy with royal crystals. roster limit of 6 purchases. slap it in the F4 shop. I should be working in there marketing team
Yea, but it’s still hard for “new players” will stay hard, new players want to become 1760 in 30minutes and stomp the hardest raids, if they can’t that means it’s hard for new players
like the amount of money made
would be ridiculous
and mostly everyone would be happy
thats what i mean by effort and the overall intention/expectation of new players
i hear it too much
and its the bitchy attitude of new players that i rather leave their ass behind if they come in with too high expectations
esp on an MMO

too many got stuck at 1580-1620 before even learning about 1760
mfers wont stop asking for everything to get easier and easier
you just want more afk customers for your act 4 normal busses don’t you?
im convinced the people who don't want to put in any effort are younger gamers.
back in my day, we all played WoW
they are
the grind in that dont even compare to LA
imagine spending 3weeks + just to get to max lvl
these youngins dont even know the glory days!
and no one is asking for the 'because i been through it, you have to as well'
everyone just looks at things as black n white
theres a middleground to everything
Wdym 3 weeks? Where is my free lv11 gems on launching the game as a new player? Shit game bro
my opinion is pretty unpopular, i wouldn't mind if they get an insane amount of treatment and get a good well-established roster going.
a lot of ppl want them to "work" for it. i just simply disagree with it
i dont mind that either if they set rewards with high upper limits that feel rewarding
ppl want to get home from work and just play the game ya know
So real
yea high upper limits would be nice
there has to be value given to both audiances
i mean tbh
or itll be how many players ended up leaving BDO
imagine you spent 1000 hours for your gains and the week later, its given out for free
no middleground
immediate jump
agam uploaded a vid today covering that topic for inven posts
personally, i have no problem with this. as long as it brings new people in. i want the game to prosper in player count
I know the kr players hate this shit, they made that wierd and dumb meatball comparison, I think memo did the translations for that one
What class should i play
i dont want effort, time, and money to get devalued
why would anyone put effort into anything if it meant u got shit on for it?
rather just be lazy and wait for free shit to be handed out
that will never work for their business model
FYI, if I spent 1000 hours to maximize a system, I don’t mind if a new player spends 100hours to obtain it, at a much later time, BUT they should still have to put in some effort to get it
far right if you want to summon 67 million minions and sit back
from my perspective, "effort" and "time" is immediately valueless the moment the game is pay to win. so i dont perceive me playing lost ark and getting through something as effort/time. it's all meaningless when u can buy whatever u want
I don't like minion builds. I'm goinna go far left
its both
they should be interchangeable
it was fun
with options of both
wym by interchangeable
im a lil stupid, had a bit too much to drink tonight haha
if a game is a full ass f2p grind, you already know the no life jobless people will sit at the PC all day


and for a f2p game, itll die
what made me finally quit wow fully is that there is no grind. I prefer lost ark over it. I feel rewarded for what I put in
true, but being f2p in a p2w game is akin to eating shit. your picking flowers while the whales are sitting at the top. f2p players have always been a joke
I know lots don't agree and that it's too grindy but it is a Korean MMO in the end
grind usually goes over ok if it can be done at your own pace
f2p players arent in that stage IF they have avenues to grind
never tried WoW but I'm already getting burned out on Lost Ark's "grind" 
But I am f2p 
yeah and both me and you are eating shit LOL
we could just swipe for our weeks or months of affort
the time-gated aspect of the grind is more annoying tbh.
having a grind but you're only allowed to work on % of it per week
Wow is very different have to rely on bosses dropping the loot you want + winning the rolls. But besides raid content it's veryy casual no grind now
Wdym, you buss on 5 different rosters and sell your gold, I am poor and only have 21 weapon on my main and can’t afford red rocks, can only use bounds
the most difficult challenge of game development is creating a harmonous system for both whales and f2p. it's quite a challenge.
i see - to me, Lost Ark feels more like an RNG race than a grind per se 
ideally it'd just be a box price with no monetization but the gaming industry has far evolved past that business model
thats just korean games + gachas at this point in general
its both, annoyingly
just have to deal with it sadly
lol i dont sell my gold and dont have 5 rosters. i dont have that kind of time.
im here pitying my +25 wep while some f2p andy 1 taps it
There's always ways to keep improving but the returns dimish which does suck sure but the option is there if you want to minmax.
I like trying to plan things out like a "budget " because in real life I suck at that 
i like the grind of progression in loa but not the collectibles
yearning, shipwrecks
to hell with those
i wouldnt mind it as much if the game doesnt plateau at the high end
and its like that many times
Yeah sadly that is like so far out the window for all games now. I forget what a buy once and not worry about extra stuff feels like lol
because they dont release enough content
The current LA model:
Release a really shit system > stay quiet for months > announce a update saying "we have heard your frustration" and nerf the system.
Don't address older systems well > give casuals a few bread crumbs via express event/powerpass
rinse and repeat
I mean no flame play how you wanna play but don't you heavily swipe? Of course you're gonna run out of stuff to do fast 😛
mirra is paying whale tax
thats why i relax with indie games when its close to reset
rush all my raids and have fun with indie games
thats why he pity +25 and i special tap to +24 as f2p
as soon as i said that... 😅
i do, but im not complaining about running out of stuff, im specifically talking about being thrown into the same bracket/system/gap
The servers are wildin this week
where the system is rng
No, and thank fking god lost ark is not that type of game
Swipe to UNLOCK progress
no one is 'working' towards anything, its an rng race
and you can swipe a shit ton and get no where
regardless of how much of a whale you are, there's always something to work on
hey we all work on something in common its called Artisan's Pity
unless your literally dumping 6 figures regularly
25 not needed for anything in dis game tho it's easy 
This was literally me on my dragon knight, I tried to zero to hero like the scalp series
im at 8% will let you know
I played bdo for a bit at launch till it got out of hand with p2w (fast) but I liked the idea of pen. It was something to work towarsa you realistically wouldn't get for a long time
wait a minute.....
that name
hold on i have a screenshot LOL
In wow I'm full bis in 3 weeks. Then wait 4 months afk till next patch
I literally only collected the 1730 rewards 1 week before the event expired, the char rng fought me the entire time, everything pitied
tf
i remember this
You're not suppose to have bis in these Korean MMOs unless you whale. Which it's not a pvp game don't really care what they do. Glad they buy my mats + keep the game alive

still is that way but they made it so that you have a way higher upper limit now
the good ol setsura/astalotte
and people can't just get lucky to close the gap either anymore
W
the only system thats like that right now is arkgrid
yeah setsura/astalotte dresses in nude skin color bikinis and got banned from here for being creepy iirc
dude should be permad
😔
he's banned from every discord except the meter one now
They just hating he was finally able to buy naruna pants from the auction house, it’s never on sale he sniped it for a premium finally

im pretty sure he's been rmting heavily lately
have u seen his roster? its disgusting

You saying can't close the gap is aek grid or the one they can ?
I personally hate the roster bound change but they def did it to sell more in shop but look like the good guys because people asked for a change
I thought his always been like that, wasn’t he already close to full 10s when he did that race event in Ishya disc on that mordum event?
yeah
Yeah we all know that the roster bound change was an excuse to release more packs in the F4 shop for astrogems
Can't be having people buy it off market like korea!
need more marginal gains in this region
Previlage of single char rosters, I have 2 artilerists, sometimes I wish I made 6
they were complaining in another discord about tfm
You mad lad
What happened?
yeah you've came across a beast mirra
id clear tfm if it wasnt for shitty people
that man is

literally sick in the head
is how it works
its always 'everyone' else being the issue
and ive seen nothing impressive to show me otherwise
he's rank 2 in the world for drizzle aeromancer tho

didnt u know?!
I know it's all video game playsrs but it's so funny hearing it in lost ark. When these people get jailed every week
The former yes, but the later I dont think so, it’s very easy to find a team to run with
you mean the dead class spec that no one plays so its easy to rank on with gear?

But most of the groups don’t have a full 8man group, you have to take some pugs
except i never said shit like that
shhh that just means your the best in the world
Idk, I am getting conflicting info, half the players all tell me they cleared tfm in pugs
or Scouter Paradise before the rework
yeah most people did.
its a combination of pugs and regrouping with people
you need fills, you also need good ppl you know are ready to clear
But I got grinded down by pugs, and people still say what I experienced is better than a static for tfm
and evne some reclears in ther
Your average 8-man static is not going to power through frustration and get the clear
someone will eventually drop out
A lot of the top 10 groups went to diff groups
due to falling out
same shit happened in KR
All I know is when I linked my log for that tfm clear, apparently the paladin in my log is infamous, and people were ragging on him and the soulfist after they saw the logs
Idc, they both lived, the sf died like once in 3 hours, both of them are hero’s in my clear
hey it is what it is. a clear is a clear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-ttOjpc5j0 at least mobile version has improved OST
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only benefit from it so far tbh
We could have cleared so much earlier, like I could have shaved maybe 15-20 hours off the amount of time it took
I went from 2-1 prog to tornado prog, to 22 prog, back to tornado prog, to 300 21 prog, back to tornado prog, then finally into sac prog into rtc status
some people are still infinite 21 prog after 2 weeks
gatekept from top 10 race cus 2 people couldnt do x500 in g1 after a week
and blamed everyone else

Not a fan of “a clear is a clear” myself
Who let @wintry depot in this game?
nor communicate schedule
#notmydl
rowen so fun
Im in it for the loot
And the fun of inting my friends

the latter
if i cant terrorize my friends
idc abt loot
Its not like i get desired drops anyway
:eulacopium
My bards get embers 

True thats the main thing I changed in t4.5
Just getting luckier
I need azena on gk for her to drop 1 ember
drops legendary card pack
male arti 
I've heard good things about it
Did they make the market less...bad yet?
oh ur playing last epoch?
i hope so lol. the meta of being the faction that can sell on the market is too massive lol
Oh? Nice
I enjoyed it but I do need to pick it up again.
yus
hmm did they release a new league?
im asuming so
wtf its been a year? felt like i last played a few months ago
It's so much better than when I played it
MSQ is sped up by 50%
Lotssss of QOL
@neon cedar KILL ME
10/10 recommend
yeah it's on season 4
No new class yet is kinda lame tho
No, you have more grinding to do
i need to play it then
I'll remain here like the clown I am
going to use a relic bonus for rune crafting,
firemaking will be done with a minigame (wintertodt)
slayer/construction/herblore will be the ass ones
What is that thing
two-point museum, Art dlc.
Mime performance
ahhh

I swear everyone is using that combo
why you don't use naruna
this pant is expensive af
the budget has already exploded
ishdoan
MEWING?!?
damn they really turned Chris's bedroom into an exhibit
fr
yeah
i just hit 14
but im making my own build
so im slow
why is this so fucking cursed
np
Idk looks like good art to me
woa so purdy
like me with this round of leagues, new to it and chose some scuffed progression
@fresh flint your kind of artwork
whats ur ingame name so i can add u
I thought that was doormaker from slay the spire 
woah a legendary already
what game is this?
last epoch
lucksack
isn't this game thats been in developement hell for the last 15 years or something?
?
No
no that game immediately crashed and burned
It released in early access 2019 and released as 1.0 in 2024
Its has regular updates with new content and classes
They havent released a new class yet :/
Oh I thought they did

I googled it. They have something called Paradox Classes on their roadmap
Yeah they increased drop chances
Alot
i no know wut dat be
Idk either

nice
Seems interesting at least. 👀
pay to win!!!
kinda yeah
totally not broken
wtf
bro the class im playing feels like a reaper om
oh the dagger ho
idk wtf im doing
im the knight dude on the left and i went voidknight
and like
idk
Im just having issue making my own build
At first I was gonna make a hammer throw build
But I stopped that

prolly this
ah yea Erasing Strike lol
i played that build last season
looks like it is still viable but void knight got buffed again LOL
KR already found the x120 camera spot
Damn, they put Deathboi's bedroom up as an exhibit
I imagine desuboyo as a minimalist with a nearly completely empty room
surprise!
what the
when you angle the camera right its a face
well you do have other options but what do you wanna play? 🤔
I'm going void
Asterkarn map dropped 
phucking gate 0

Whoever doesn't accept, put them in party 4
only took them 10 fucking years
can finally add Black Mesa content to Garrys Mod
probably too unc to be posting this here
ofc the shittiest skins got chosen by KR

@fresh flint @neon cedar Why do KR have such shit tastes of skins
IDC about the twink skins tbh because I thought almost all the males skins sucked anyway
Male Yoho tho

Gotta go watch Brel extreme tonight and see KR rage at it
G2, it's Act 2
Then it's very free

Just pass thru phase1 and they're golden

But how many wipes in phase 1 will it take 
inb4 they need to jg or get kicked out of the colored circles
like serca mech where they have to jg anvil
https://www.twitch.tv/ohbenjitv streaming it now
That doesn't really take much since you don't do anything in the circles anyway
It'll be wild if the colours reset every prokel spawn
guillotine swing during colors phase + meteor drops
when final stagger ready, prokel does a facing in circle of counters
yes ikik
EX isnt meant to be disastrously difficult tho, just some new stuff to shake it up
ye
Brel Pizza identity does phantom brands
so whilst people are working out order, also have to go to edge to drop meteors
and after every identity there's a windmill pattern on ground (alternating pizzas) and people have to spread out ice auras
x3 stagger pattern has added lasers
LOL
x145 carousel has kazeros desert just guards added to it
whilst moving to avoid guillotines and hitting orbs you have to turn 180 to just guard
@sand marsh did u add me
Not many People know this, but the chest value for behe is by far the best value in the entire game
press H
Oh tehre we go
same region?
blursed

Chris being dum again?
Spin to win build?
Lame
took 1 wipe and Benji's group cleared x145
HALL OF ILLUSION IS BACK, transcendence or w/e
Void knight does have a spin to win build Iirc
It has
It just eats a ton on mana
yup
Fair enough
I might try a shield throw build idk how good it is though.
oh wtf i dont remember that
xD its dope
Their skill variants are quite lackluster tbh

yeah but no joke, we've had some variant of these skins before
holy phuck, the guy at No. 1 has 10355 xp
that being said, most of the skins are just tweaked pre-existing ones
he killed 65 players in Rowen this week
they did all quests and all dailies then
nah, all quests are 10160
and all weeklies?
ye
hmm
then every kill is 3
there are a few stubborn players in Rowen
Is anyone online at the moment?
they come fight u in ur faction's siege event, but their class are not very good, so always get killed
but they will revive at base and come again multiple times
I've seen a Preigelli machinist coming to me during Liebertane siege
My little pony~ My little pony~ 
Big rat
not even down yet dummy
Bored, I wanna raid
And test my luck again at frog
Wonder if big books will go below 140 on reset
I really hope they can revamp Rowen
No one even Remb that storyline
I tested with a friend, everything is like oneshot if ur 1k cp+
Danika shows up random at Kurzan to help out
1k to 5k? oneshot
5k to 1k? ofc oneshot
should make it like medeia island or something
balanced stats, less dmg, longer ttk, so that it can be more fun
ye Danika cute
There's a part 2 eventually coming
tl;dr Luterra and Starsgarde are Haal related
(Luterra is low-key the first Myun)
R*wen
Guy in that "myun myth" story you see in Rowen has the same haircut as young Luterra and the same jacket he wears in the Abyss
R*wen one of the worst content in the game
Rowen was fine, the pvp was ass because it was so slow
I luv Rowen quest line tho
Trying to do world boss and some no lifer 🐳 with pvp gear fucks every off
just like how the feiton bois show up random in kurzan to help out 
and Danika cute
Usually s*rcs hiding 5 screens away spamming shit
servers down now?
i liked running into the enemy base to take out the captain 
12 mins
Then that's not me
I only come to siege event
gunslingers were also a menace with a pretty long range ice grenade spell
The only thing I can imagine that stronger than sorc is summy

off-screen pheonix
Ice thingy knock backs + sniper shot while CC’d
off screen target down/focus shot
So much counter play
The worst thing about sorc is not the range
It's the combo
X to ur face, Squall electrifies u for 2 sec, and oneshot u after that
Getting 1 shot / stun lock off screen is just bs
summoners were the most broken in Rowen. seeing there large ass skill come flying down across the map and one shotting everyone
W
pheonix shit
Zerks beeing basically immortal was funny to look at but bs too since they still did dmg
They need to scale down the pvp dmg in Rowen
no they dont
just like medeia island
no one goes there LOL
Just delete any pvp aspect
except duel
duels are just for fun with friends
if they waste development resourcs on Rown i stg im getting a truck at smilegate HQ like the koreans do
You’re prob only one doing duel for past 3 yrs
anything if ur wfh
hello kitty online

oof
that i have to just check up on
Slay the spire
😭
farming games?
Roblux
Isn't roblox infested by furries?
Duno
Either you’re a kid or a weirdo when you play it

My 12 yr old brother slowly growing out of it
Starting to play better games

Ngl 18+ playing that game is 
ew

you're a BL enjoyer 

those are lesbians
Babe Lover
That's something @mystic sphinx will like


Gae?
Your alt Account 
she's zyla
I'm zyra
loa player can't read 
Would to the snake

Kill deathboi
wtf
I'm suffering trying to figure a build out
Nothing i want to do is in the nodes
i would just work with erasing strike & go from there
if u really like bonking do everything u can to increase damage + echo % and echo damage
i haven't dont nightmare serca since getting doloris are reclears pretty comfy?
and what cp
i might try one this week and if it jails never do it again
Most people want 5k ish I think, as for how comfy, I have no idea lol, other than week 1 I just wanna take it easy and run hm instead
I think g1 can jail pretty hard, g2 is way easier than g1
I am bad at 200 bar mech, and the safespot for the death scythe cleave
My mana is a huge issue rn @sand marsh
Good, it’s back the way it used to be to be, finish all raids by Friday/saturday
No more tfm taking up your time and you have to do last minute raids on Monday
rip i have mana issues

But it’s bard players, they need to drop more utility for more meter gen, even if oom
Something something ceiling they have to chase it something

i have insane mobility tho
i can get across the map in less than half a second
clearing veyr fast
Bard
ew bard
Ok this makes more sense now
This skill gives mana regen kek
yeaaaah
is that abyssal echoes
looks like it
devouring orb
Poop orbs
xdd

are u speccing into echo %?
not really
cause with echoes spamming erasing strike for you, you dont have it spam it
what the echo does, is perform the same ability for you again
basically double casting
i know
no thats really good
it consumes hella mana bro
Just get more mana
and i have like negative mana regen
i promise you lol


if it's +1 additional echo perpoint like i remember
you can cast one time
and it will legit SPAM echos
its fucing amazing haha
My spin to win is lv 100 and i still dont hab enough mana to put 5 points into giga aoe spin

i think
i think ima have to get rid of this node
lmao
the auto cast is literally eating my mana up
oh
but the skill also gives mana regen
yeah thats auto casting it.
Auto cast > Eat mana every cast > Mana regen
not worth
BUT THEN THERE'S THIS.
it may be good later once u get better gear
may have to hold off on certain nodes until then
void knight early on has massive mana issues if using erasing strike
but it scales extremely well end game with decent gear
i am, love the mechanic its dope
yeah its loot pinata, great
no you don't
bruh

Anyone watching Brell?


my buddy is such a fucking whale.













