#lost-ark-discussions
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Desperate behavior
I also need your gold
is it extremely profitable o-o
they are self use 
This might be a crazy thing.
But.
You can.
Wait until you can.
Then do it.

SHOCK!
No, don't sleep outside, tf.
dunno im trying it out
As if ill think to check it
but apparently it should be
Forgot, zoomer's have the attention span of a moth 
MY BAD 
I have that too, but, like, you can use "search" function to see mentions when you get home or something
I swear to god people are smh.

Attention span of a what? I didn't read the whole thing

Tfw hyperfocused or none at all

Exactly
"I was supposed to do something today.... Meh"
Chicken doesn't get taken out of freezer.
im just curious because

My life
it costs 174 to craft at the moment with my cost reduction
and it costs around 201 on market
:thonk:
idk
bruh
If i dont remember, its not important
I see.
Stop doing whatever to do next errand
Arrive at next errand
Forgot what is next errand
Stop doing whatever to do next next errand
I'm not important.

ok
@neon cedar This is a lobby of people that collectively gave up on HM lmao
i wonder if fusions are better gold atm tho
i dont know
Should be nice and fast
i think zyra mentioned thati t was extremely profitable when it was 300
The power of cba compels them

Im hungry
oh wtf

wtf is this price diff
Eat? 
oh wow fusions went down giga
IM NOT HOME
What is this slayer
Were just bussing this guys friend I think
the 1720 one that just joined?
Put a reminder note. You may forget to eat even when you reach home
all 🐳 are at 25 arldy i gues
Oh okay his build changes
yea he was 1800cp
Na im so hungry
Im starving
Oh right
Ah
Ill ask my mom what we eat
fuck if I know
Find someone with a lunchbox or sandwich and buy it off them
We don't have a metro

I'm sure some metros have food places 
Stations yes
Not inside the metro
Im not yellow

Yeah im not on the platform too
Get Amazon to airdrop a meal
Its underground

XD

Tokyo is just better I guess.
Flex on them Syrup eater's with no food in the underground.

We have food underground
JUST NOT.IN THE METRO ITSELF
Dumbass
We have an entire city underground
You weirdo
stop wasting battle items, youre broke
damn we are so cute
i love claiming mails, can i have some more mails pls
So you're on the train?
phuck
Oh wth he died so fast
I wasnt even paying attention to his hp
tf...

On my lopang 
ty for the raids this week sir
damn youre done alrdy
Say in the metro then
you said on so I thought you were still at the station
and you call me dumbdumb
Bullie Arna.
need more serca raids, that place is fun.

I actually said in
poggy
btw are you z ing on 1 bubble or waiting for two?
If he does 1, ill strangle him
i used to do 1 only to "maximize uptime" if i didnt have abilities available soon
but now i started to do 2 more
My bad, I meant to type "You typed in so I thought you were still at the station"...
or if it's a really good dps pattern
Stupid
Yea, I know, I misstyped what I was trying to say
my point still stand.
No it doesnt
Since you say on when you talk about being on the train and in when talking about being at or in the station.
I said in the metro, not station or pltform
So you shoudve known
You use "on" when talking about riding or being on the vehicle itself. You use "in" when talking about being located inside the underground station or the broader transit system
like the flame memory pattern in g1
calls me dumbdumb but uses the wrong texting and blames me, I see how it is, smh, I'm going to go raid 
wtf
@wintry depot i decided to raise my bard to 1720 because she had a shit ton of bound mats
and right after i did a serca
where all my team mates
where eating EVERYTHING
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
i had to switch to wom in g2
and thats why i benched my bard
i mean today
im too nice for that
wait no
not true
i killed paekes
and it was funny
i remember this gk failing every jg in armoche during the jg mech
and just letting them die
the previous pull of g2, they hit the red statue..
rich get richer

THAT was funny xD
I like it so elegant
dress is cute
i feel like theres something deeply wrong with these heels but idk
lul this is more normal yea
the money spent on the skin is whats wrong

tf
W
we like silver here
I'm rich.
deaaaaaaaaad region
😭
tell me about it 
shit skin
does not having card set reduce damage
Lucksack
ive been playing without cards all this time
is that a serious question?
yes?
yes
she needs all xD
this event gem/ solo shop mix looks cursed
so ugly
i still need lvl 10 gem but can't login 

i paused lvl 9s on my main to get the 8s for my wildsoul xD cuz i wont strip downmy bard xD
she gets to keep ehr stuff even benched xD
gems pwease
imagine if you gave me like 3 of those 8s from your benched chars
what i could do with that
I now have two 100 quality weapons and this is on my main. 
oh god halp xD
hand them over i need 4 more

Back to 1mil+
nice lucksack
Stomach full, half a kilo of bolognese pasta 

AAAND stop
Huh?
need this 80k for wednesday xD
💀
what a fucking loser
Please do not bypass the word filter. It exists for a reason. [Even screenshots of a blocked word is considered bypassing.]
people like this should jus be banned tbh
the ign is bigger

surely 9/9 in here @swift magnet
But how funny that is a pretty new player nuking other new players time
this aint a new player
Literal 5 month roster that new as shit imo
Probably longer
2 months ago
on NAE
and he started when jumpstart came out
not ignite, but jumpstart
Gg...
roster level takes too long
I thought they giga nuked 1-200 roster level
they did
it wasnt a giga nuke
5 months 25/8 playing 50 chars each day

but you still need to play the game
its a buff but i wouldnt call it a nuke xdd
I got 1 ticket from World Boss and finally It won @swift magnet 
Holy shit 
Only 2 more 
and then all of it lost to this bs
holy fuck I hate Resonance
Pretty sure arkesia tour in a fresh acc drops you off around 100

80 exactly
Yeah, 200 still gonna take a while then
im 348 om
Nice slacker

buy a bus to 400
Wait that guy in the ss hides his roster info LOL
LOL
@swift magnet Tied with 3 ppl
By the time i’m 400 we have roster 500
Alt acc rat probably
I hide my rats
That i dont play

Who doesn't
my new roster isnt showing
bible cant keep up with how fast i delete and make alts

Ooh, almost forgot what discord I’m in. Never mind

nah i can understand those. if it would be up to me there wopuldnt be any open logs with anmes or that site to check chars
I choose to remain silent
eh. i believe everything should be transparent. make the rats come out
especially exposes those who buy pilots as well
not evryone used bible and not everyone wants to see their names in public even though they do dmg. i get why they dotn want it. your point isnt wrong though
your name is public at all times ingame tho. no diff on a website

ingame is different than autop upload
for the whole world to see
i promise no one cares about a nobody. id agree if uploading caused your irl stuff to get doxxed


yus agreed. just saying that i kinda get why ppl dont like it
Most people wont bother to look you up
Unless its for tfm maybe

But for regular hw? 
that would be the peak of a tocix game xD
KR would do that 
if everyone demands open logs for everything xD
Well. Inven would
those are a diff kind palyers xD
polite in public but the most toxic humans on the internet
xD
Mine are public because I wanne contribute to statistics
And idgaf if people check it
I mean it matters if some tryhard degen makes fun of ppl that aren't good
the ppl who aren't good didn't agree to be made fun of
I mean only dumbasses would make fun of ppl who are worse than them
As long people do theire job and carry own weight idc
i never died so fast before
But bozo doing half clear dps and dying 
I mean it is what it is you don't have "ranked" party finder
Kick out if lobby and thats it. Wont type it out
I mean do what u g2 do ingame
Nothing to do with ranked tbh. Not carrying own weight is 
Like clear dps serca is 200m each for enrage
And when someone is doing 100 or so 
as long as boss dies, Is A ok that some are low at times 
the game doesnt tell u what ur weight is
now u know why I take heavy armor in universal set
In game tool says your own dps

i only have 3 slots
heavy armor, spirit absorb, hit master
If they have a friend doing theire dmg as extra. Sure
that's it
it says what ur DPS is doesnt say
or change hit master to preemitive strike
I mean, or just "Someone in the grp"

u need X amount on ur own to kill X boss
I personally wont carry dead weight. But luckily it happens so rarely
Easy math though boss hp/time/3 
So if you'er doing Nightmare G2 Serca and you notice halfway that you're doing 900, one guy is 880 and the last is 750 you'll stop the raid? 
math lmao
i bought it all
What is clear dps ?
800'ish.
Ok, so if you're doing a casual act 4 hard and you notice one guy doing half clear dps but everyone else is doing enough that you still go mech > mech > mech you'll stop and go back to lobby? 
but my bf did 920ish
if people are doing "cutting edge" content and clearly shouldnt be there. it can be annoying if they sneak in, but i rarely see that. usually its in like old content or normal mode.. which si where they should be and surely they improve as long as they keep playing
kinda crazy to have ppl do math for a raid
nobody does that
thats like saying u g2 do math for ur DPS in every other gacha game for their dps
I mean, people can have bad run's, variable, etc, as long as the boss is dead on the floor with not too much trouble who gives a 🦆 
except people that take this game too seriously because they need people to carry lol
who the fk does that
i g2 calc my DPS against fish in dave the diver
wouldn't know if i could beat boss otherwise

idk the minimum for anything except like prerelease/week 1. i just worry 'is this shit clearing" or not
If he is insta dead twice and i see the dmg yea.
Had a bard running 40% uptime in act 4 hm beeing perma dead in 2 runs before we got to shield so i just left.
I only parse when there is some kinda shit like Chris' ws
I will do anything I can to prevent it from getting into MVP page

There is sheet with dmg needed for all raids 
and some normal person is gonna go do that
I think people think too much about "Speed = Fun", It's a game at the end of the day.
I legit had a Static Member who didn't want to play with my GL since back then I was doing pretty bad damage on that char, all the bosses dies still and we had no issues, but he just flat out refused because "I don't want to carry trash".
Ok, so then I just stopped joining him on all char's including the juicer's
like, you really care so much about a 1min faster run you'll ditch your buddies? Ok, play alone.
Dont need to be tryhard to like numbers
I never said anything about him being dead
just low dmg.
I expect people to do bare minimum dmg and not die
I don’t expect them to do top 0.1% dmg
Do you hold yourself to that standard if you have a bad run and double die?
you click stop and excuse yourself out? 
Usually bad dps are dead 
Because I noticed with that buddy from static that he was the first one also to have a lot of excuses the run's he did bad in 
I pop atro and dark and even put on grudge if I see some abomination like this in the lobby
the classic "i never die howd that guy die" and then the time they die "omg wtf howd that happen the boss did some crazy overlap! XD"
I won't let it get on the mvp screen, at all cost
I rarely doube die and if i do i say I’m sorry and throw extra darks next pull.
Dead people have imo no right to press restart
Or just, bad?
Lots of reasons for dps decline, experience, variable, using skills at bad timing and not getting the most out of it and the list goes on.
kinda hard to stop xxding from getting mvp
easy to stop fake ones tho
I still expect people to do bare minimum. Thats not hard
Ok, so, you don't excuse yourself then, I get that it happens rarely but the times it does happens you're basically the same "person" you'd ditch. 
I’m not running around doing half clear dmg
Sure, I get that, if the boss does not die and you struggle or if it's a prog raid that the same person messes up time and time on, I just don't see it in regular HW raids that dies anyways
but that's just me.
ye that's tru
You would if you double died 
I also said that it rarely happens.
i understand what they want and it makes sense but i just personally think its weird going into raids having expectations and worrying about that 24/7
its such a nonissue that hardly comes up
These runs are usually a restart anyway because like never get carried

I care more about mechs

and if it does theres something wrong with the lobbies youre joining, or you (if you can effect their gameplay like a support)
theres a lot of bad bards out there for example
got jailed in hm act 5 due to someone robbed my counter in 2-2
Anyways, at the end of the day, personally, If the boss dies, ok, you got carried, shit happens, gg go next.
and I don't remember last time I was like jail jailed, maybe a month+ ago.
If i die act 4 ppl somehow cant do guard as 7 
Act4 guard?
what's that? Just kill it before mech.
ppl greedy af, not doing that incantation counters
Then don't die in act 4 lol
yeah, theres rare cases of being able to actually be jailed and the just guard is for one for sure. i havent gotten jailed from it yet, just a few wipes. but restart enough and itll eventually succeed lol
I dont 🐳 to be able to join 5k cp lobbys
I'm wildsoul
instead of ending the lobby, sitting in a lobby waiting for peopel to join and wasting more hours of your life or possibly not finihsing it

I think I had one week long ago where 2 Kaz HM's ended up disbanding since people pepegaed 2-2 but ye, that was an abnormal week.
isnt it that everyone has invisible names till they activate option in bible to show their names
I mean regardless some of you really think these raids are like some challenger ranked games in league
ok im late a bit
If 7 ppl get 4 guard 8 would be 5 
and when I was doing it, a phucking souleater robbed my counter
I just refuse to carry rats that cant do theire own weight or dont have a friend that carrys them
My motto is, sometimes you carry sometimes you get carries, as long as boss dead we all gud
gg wp clean run.
Jynxzi was disgusted after hearing Dantes insane League of Legends motivational speech 😭😭
leave the grp before you enter then, you can get a feel of the people and the quality at a glance 9/10 times.
like i get it, but how are they getting into lobbies as a rat if they arent friends carrying them it just shouldnt be an issue.
Cool. I’m sup main so my dps alts are around 2.8k cp 
Dantes my foat
Noobie..
Leaving after a bad pull, or a guy being bad but boss dying, or variable dps that's low due to "shit happens" and wasting 7 people's time is equal or more of an ass move than the guy being low dps ngl 
some people dont care and just invite anyone
My opinion is, if I'm taking care of sidereal skills and doing all mech, then no one should blame me if I have sub-parse but higher than minimum dps
I mostly make own lobby for that reason

i do that
Some people look decent. Still cant play
Im dps main, so my sup is higher than my dps
I did a normal act 4 this week, two was like 2-2,6k the rest was around 1500-1700.
Was it a rat run? I mean, some would say, was it a fast and clean zero wipe run? 
my recent group of friends i met kinda just invite anyone but tbh theres a bunch of us and we know we can do finish the raid with them afk. normal mode is super chill nowadays

Then, I feel any complaint is self inflicted
hihi
Wont result in doing zdps

dont care ur cp fashion title or how big gaped asshole is, if your ilvl matches the raid entry requirement i have no reason to decline
thats a lot of players for sure. thats why im mainswapping to gunlancer. too many stagger and destruction checks later and again dps isnt important after week1.
It is. Person looked fine. Didnt work out. Next
red gl is pretty good tho
unless you mean blue
Reminds me of that nm act 5 g1 wipe on stagger….
Sorc had like 1k stagger… how?
yeah it is good tthats why im swapping form ws to it. not away from gunlancer 😛 im red havent tried blue (yet)
So, I just gotta ask since I don't feel I've gotten it clarified.
Would you ever quit a grp G1 if the boss was still dying at a reasonable and fast enough rate? (Implication is that there's a char in your raid you don't like since he's what you'd call a rat dps).
(and u don't need to give a phuck about whether I'm taking grudge, if I have 4k cp and doing act 4 hm)

I dont check mid raid. I only check if bad stuff happens
Just play Princess GL, you'll never have to worry about Destro or Stagger.
yeah i meant that its not a bad dps

Ok, then the follow-up would be, if G1 was cleared at a fast enough rate but when you're in G2 you see that 2 people are rat rat dps (they don't have friends in the grp) would you then, replace?

(I know you said mid-raid) I'm just wondering.
im cutting swift/expertise bracelets as i get them coping ill get around to trying princess but i dont have any whale friends to make it even worth it but would be fun to try
If we wipe 3-4 more times yes. Cba waist time. Char/raid is done and thats it
Bruh, my Slayer buddy was on his
Slayer doing 670 mil dps in G2 Serca 
how about some ayaya that looks like xdding's abominational stylebook?
Last time i had to do that was act 3 though. People couldn’t survive untill bubble and 2 dps wasnt enough dmg to destroy it

if you can apply the party ur accepted
i love carrynig people
Just alt f4 and do smth else
you love gold*
what bubble?
The Rank 1 is 550 mil and he was doing 120 mil more
don't need whales, just some people that want to have fun @sinful cove
nothing wrong with that though. i want gold 
X0 mech bubble
oof
No wipes, just, they rat dps but the raid is clearing fine at a fine rate.
carry my arti in msq dungeon pls 
wat the
artist
Was during last weeks of act3
hey ur on NA, u could get gold too just like me. we need more ppl xdd
Like i said if nothing bad happens I don’t check. In game tool is enough for my personal information usually
yeah i finally found friends recently since i returned to the game that actually enjoy playing and trying new things so will be fun with them. not just run raids for gold and logoff
try picking up some moko seeds

i used to bus but back in valtan/vykas days before i quit. now my characters are way too rat since i came back. also now having too much fun playing with friends 🤐
Bruh, fucking Shadowhunter is so broken.
I luv moko seeds
true i havent touched a mokoko seed since like the first 2 months
Bussers 
1762 Rat Shadowhunter btw, wtf.
you'd be surprised lol. u can do armoche normal with 2k cp. even less
500 fucking mil 
i cant get into mokoko seeds some are annoying
time to get them all
Serca is great for Princess, If you want https://lostark.bible/character/CE/Princesswisely I snagged this guy's setup
you can tweak it how you want it.
Just keep

Nah,
I only need 1 more char to get to 1750 and I'm done for a while.
breh
I mean, I think this is a static he's in, who knows.
I did mine 3/4 Pre-made and we grabbed a random dps with us.
?
For who? We all did our parts.
Last time i saw princess was tower and akkan
when i see tower i think of the solo content 
Seeing extra stagger bars in g2 tower was funny
Last Gate Ivory Princess was Goat
yes
Untill like 4th break and bar refused to move
The new Princess build makes the GL play Yearning now
So support can go giga Pig CDR full spec build.
It's
Big dmg numbers for the dps.
Couldn’t bard run like nightmare or some crp that gave cdr?
The sup ran this on Artist.

Not sure why he's 30 swift tho 
Wait,
this is wrong build.
This is dps lul
Ok, his build makes no sense
It's not this you run I'm pretty sure 
Bible bug
Have a valk run that shows support cp with chaos/dps set up
And all skills at bottom

You run this 
idk exactly but while i was doing crucible on my ws it was showing my profile as having extra skills equipped. all skills with any skill points in it even if it wasnt on my bar
Just broke
i guess i can try on my supp to see if snapshots will save bugged if i put random points into stuff
originally i thought bugs were caused by them switching mid raid like kaz 2-2 on hardmode
snapshots are buggy. when i ran 15 expertise on a 2c kaz run, the snapshot still shows 30 swift 10 spec
Only swapped 1 battle item
been like this for a while already
they still haven't fixed snapshots on the website lol

same as tier 3
just not baked into set bonus but ark passive now
you'd run dominion
I was just talking in relation to back in Ivory T3 times 
but ark passive is dominion just worded diff now
I need to find a preset that's like this, but, not like this,
got a reskin ticket so thought about trying something new for fun, but, want this skin tone just a bit more, oily and not that hair
but nothing on the damn In-game preset list 
downside to this setup is it only impacts skills that use MP. on pally you'd run this
reskin tickets.. the true whale content 
Less cd and mana regen on that tho no?
make skin darker
the CD is a little less but with full spec your still getting 100% uptime. but this allows it to impact the "Z" skill on pally
and cosplay nidalee
since Z does not cost mana
Hmm, 
i dont think the other supports have an important skill with no mana cost
3 times a week
maybe not, as long as your uptimes are fine then It's all gud.
people already crying nonstop about a 3 minute event imagine if it was everyday 
It's so dumb to have it #1 Timed, #2 limited, #3 Trash box rewards.
those ppl crying are dumb
the event shop isnt even that insane aside from the astrogems if u ask me
agreed. i get it if you dont think its fun but at least they are trying things. they want 4fun content but hate every single thing they do

i get where they are coming from but yeah. crying about it is ultimately silly
this chest actually aint that bad if you land the astrogems
the rare-epic one that is xdd

bro again wtf
it's just giving me another 100 coins...
You were saying?
Yea
It's, 
theres no odss on their side but comparing them to inanas blessing you aint hitting the good stuff its just a "free" chance at getting something
zzzzz
im afraid to run it till tuesday. i have no hands but i have the cp to place top3
tf?
Slacker
no luck man
This is not luck, It's variable, we get cards from so many sources now 
i keep getting cards i alrdy have maxed out
Ye, if you're a Day 1 vet not full old-cards now you're casual playing 
"old" cards but they are all t4 cards

Most of those cards are in the new packs.
Only new Clown & Kaz and Serca aren't.
yes but still t4 cards. i know a lot of people not done that play a lot. they did give a lot of selectors last year though
You should have a ton of selection packs tho if you save them until you can unload all of them @sand marsh 
uhh
How far off are you with that in mind?
lemme check
im sitting on 32 selectors i just need 1 more of any of the cards then ill just send them all
nvm forgot argos has a selector
Ye, but I'm talking about hardcore non-life day 1 gamer's 
i have 4 selectors. i used a bunch on fire set a few months ago.

that would max out lightning set
then it's just dps cards
even tho i dont play dps xdd
cards are rng in the end, can brute force it a bit but eventually you get stuck towards the end if unlucky. i buy them all from chaos gate + a few of the prestige shop till i ran out of coins

well im only 1 awakening off from lightning set then im done until tier 5 when we get the 5th version of kakul saydon and nineveh

my card exp is cooked though. since i played till 1490 brel release, quit till mordum.
im sure someone out there has full awakened every single card in the game
i cant do that cuz silver om
yeah theeres a ton of people i saw a few pictures
Huh?
hes silvergated because he busses and has more gold than his account "should" have 
I mean, I'm missing 22 card's and I'm done 100%

well i mean actually awakening them
yeah crazy how fast it goes with accessories. i have a bunch on my characters that arent gold earners im forcing myself to not open yet but if i play them i will
It's ok, silver it to be spammed.
Who cares.
I used to have 0 silver and now poof, nothing to spend on.
yeah
honing hurt me as well
going from 1730 to 1750 on 2 chars in one sitting
rough
I need to hone 6 char's from 1700 > 1710
Then I'm all 1710 and can do 17 serca's a week 
lol
you all are whales
too much gold
I have 1 mil 

Thanks @swift magnet 380k+ gold 
@loud vortex did you do gr for accessories to get more enlightment?


I mean, im fine on embers, but still poor 

me always broke :p
waiting for a new class to drop and sell xD
as I said, whales
wow such empty roster storage jealous

i wouldn't call mindps pumping....
blasting 
If that’s with grid
Kinda gg
Grid?
You're cute 

see, full grid

my legs hurts
Was using sup acc's too so yea 
dont sit on them
im not
i was just standing long today

We messed up G2 a bit so I did less than min there, I was sad.
i died while banning the mf

ban him again
3 more chaos and i can sleep 
nah
no need
bro i can use true courage
arti gets x tho not z
2 more ;__;
im at punika i can only pick desperate salvation
z is also replaced to dps
no
true courage is expensive
last line is a bamboo hit
shitgame
i never made it to 4th node
oh
on artist
thats z
it is z
well obv
need lvl 70
i read it as shorekeeper
whales, making new chars in this economy
when im done with voldis im never playing story ever again
that is what you think now
stupid amazon didnt give achievements from knowledge transfer
amazon btw
small indie company you know
i have to make a new char
and NOT KT to vern
because vern skips shushire
im gonna kms
I want to ratify my arcana
yeah and its smilegate
but I only have 6 chars
so I need something to replace her\
fucking dogshit billionare company
IM RICH
at least 10k gold! congrats! 🐳
when he realize the red is the good part


I dont like watermelon
poor John being bollied.
watermelon is S tier fruit
Let's just say his Kaz HM run wiped twice in G1 Stagger, in 2-2 now tho so I'm sure It's a clear 

@swift tree can u show me the shushire achievement again
What happened?
Watch the trolls all get hit by white line just guard, spawn 10 puddles and wipe



paladin dropping from 12 to 8s gradually during the week 

1750 
How's your best Paradise going? @swift magnet 
sucking
+1 key at least 
you struggling with +17s?
rest is fked
I've failed +17 x20 times
lemme check
oof, I'm stuck on +18 censer and rest +16
problem this week was nearly no ancients to even try and tap
this too

resonance?
bruh, early in the week, I did 12-15 ticket's or so.
I got 0.
I almost crashed out.
Pretty shit.


"pretty shit"
i am still in diamond xD
bruh stfu
In my Rank Range this is shit 
I compare to the ones in my bracket 
you drop a two-star?
Not on this.
I got 3 1* and the rest are 46 / 90 / 96
+18 / SS / 1 star is roughly 40 mil
caught gooning
WA

soft-ceiling is 40 mil
she ahs clothes :p
Yea, I got a buddy who's on that.
what am i looking at
pink hair 😛
rank 1 spot in NAE Paladin is on that too
until someone beat his time 

from 36mil+ it starts to become just sheer luck
its giga saturated














would have to be able to read first

